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☠︎ Found the secret easter egg in today's video? Be the 1st to comment what it is and where it occurs in the video, and you will get pinned!! ☠︎

[@chuyitosjm]

THE SECRET IS 16:51!!!!

[@Tsteezzz]

I just found itttt

[@normaldrinkingwater4653]

ok

[@Tsteezzz]

Congrats man!

[@MrBallen]

you did it! literally saw your comment 4 seconds after you posted it... you are the winner!

[@normaldrinkingwater4653]

@@MrBallen nice

[@CristiNeagu]

To be honest, if I came running out of the woods, literally butt naked, with a handcuff on my wrist and obvious signs of abuse, I too would be offended at being asked to take a lie detector test.

[@animefreak7423]

Agreed

[@maevependragon]

Same

[@kathryncumberland]

Police treat sex workers horribly! It's inexcusable.

[@scintillam_dei]

I have gotten nervous before at the idea of being suspected even though I'm innocent. Lie detectors are fallible.

[@Crackpot_Astronaut]

No kidding. You have this girl ending up like this, giving exact details that matched up to a man she never knew and would have no reason to frame, and somehow THAT'S not good enough for police... But a psychological profile IS? What the absolute duck

[@gromester1092]

My goal in life is to never end up in one of MrBallen’s stories.

[@markusmitchell8585]

%1 of his stories are actual good OMG people I meant good as in a positive outcome man a lot of you are Aholes I love his stories get a life jerks man stop being so toxic

[@gromester1092]

@@markusmitchell8585 Yes, but those aren’t very good odds.

[@darrienscott7048]

Mr Ballen himself was in one of his videos.

[@robininok5603]

🤣🤣🤣

[@J_Honor_]

Strive for bigger goals! Though I do feel you 😉 I don't want to end up as a story, but if I had to.,..I want Mr. Ballen to tell my tale in story format!

[@joeysplats3209]

I met Robert Hansen and shook his clammy hand. True story: In 1982 I worked at a convenience store in Fairview, an Anchorage community surrounding a main drag. His bakery was creatively named "Hansen's Bakery" and was next door to the QwikStop in the strip mall on Gambell. It was early morning and I happened to be ending shift as the "night guy". Through the glass door to the hallway and his bakery I saw Mr. Hansen and thought I'd step over and meet this dude who owned the donut place next door. We bought donuts from, of course. I'm very tall and I remember him looking up at me with an expressionless face and those same glasses you see at 15:50 in this video. He softly said "hi" in a voice that sounded like he was talking to himself. "Not a real outgoing guy", I thought to myself. But I admired him for starting up his own gig and making the American Dream happen for him. I hopped in my car and went home, not knowing I had just met a man who had either recently finished a "hunt" or was getting ready for his next. I shook the hand of a serial killer, not long before he was caught. Eww. This is a true story and I will never forget the look on his face.

[@maryanne7161]

Everything's fine and all,but I wish u wouldnt call that guy "Mr."!

[@bonjy3701]

He did live the American Dream to the fullest - taking the freedom of others and mercilessly killing and torturing them.

[@brian4180]

@@bonjy3701you’re a goof

[@merczeph79]

Men with weak handshakes can not be trusted.

[@-Zevin-]

@@bonjy3701 Wow, brutal, see what you are saying though...

[@apollo7694]

This is so infuriating because even though Cindy was traumatized and terrified after being assaulted and almost killed she still did everything she could to get the police to catch this guy and they even with all the evidence and support they just left it which resulted in the death of more women. Cindy is incredible brave and selfless for doing what she did and I hope she was able to recover from what happened.

[@sam-psonsmith9951]

rich people privilege. the police doesn't go after wealthy people unless they absolutely have to.

[@ellymay1455]

I learned that living in the same neighbourhood at the time that the Yorkshire ripper was killing women every couple of weeks. The police didn’t take any of it seriously, it was just sex workers. Until he started to kill ‘’ innocent women’’ there words not mine. as if somehow it was ok to kill some women but not the innocent ones. It’s amazing how women are ranked into innocent or deceiving of their fate because somehow they asked for it and the law not there for them. I hope time have changed.But I doubt it.

[@DJKhaled69420]

@@sam-psonsmith9951how do you know he was wealthy

[@sam-psonsmith9951]

@@DJKhaled69420 A: Because i watched a different video which went into more detail about this case. and B: Because i actually used my earballs to listen to what was said in this video. which mentioned that in less detail.

[@-Zevin-]

@@sam-psonsmith9951 "How did you know he was wealthy" Oh gee I dunno his private airplane and hunting cabin and successful business owner didn't tip him off? lol You are totally right too there are two justice systems in this country, one for the rich and one for the poor, it's insane what you can get away with if you have money. Sad too what happened to Cindy with the lie detector BS too when lie detectors are famously not admissible in court because they are pseudoscience nonsense that don't prove one way or another if someone is lying or not, they only prove someone is nervous.

[@hmbogi]

Letting them wander in the woods while he hunted them, is another level of horror.

[@perplexedxbox5930]

Not to mention the whole island part of it. Nobody on the island had a chance

[@cheeseburgerinparadise7124]

They still finding bones off knik river, thought to be more victims. Fun fact: he was a barber in Seward Correctional Center.

[@TheGrassManissaviour]

Hey I mean at least he was nice enough to give them a chance at staying a step ahead of Requiem!

[@earthsgard]

I'm sure Hollywood has made a movie like this sick shit, saw, hostel, etc ..some weird bastards out there...

[@RoombaJoomba]

The animal now hunts the humans..

[@ticrific]

Letting them “escape” to be hunted by him because he knew they couldn’t escape the property is truly horrifying. Thats pure evil

[@RaoulDukeSr]

Tuxedo cats are the best !

[@rpospeedwagon]

Disgusting that he didn't get the death penalty. Seriously disturbing.

[@Lethal19]

And then intentionally wounding (WITHOUT KILLING) them so he could hunt them even more

[@deanwinchester3356]

This happened in a Supernatural episode. Escape Sammy was smart enough to know they were hunting them.

[@jesusfchrist8479]

I read a book with similarities to this story in highschool called "The most dangerous game"

[@mask938]

I remember reading a short story called “Dangerous Game” in middle school. It was about a hunter who washed up on an island after a shipwreck and found a rich hunter living there who loved to hunt dangerous animals and had made a sport of hunting humans who washed up on the island. The rest of the story followed the protagonist being forced to play a twisted game of cat and mouse with the rich hunter.

[@bomberanian]

Was just thinking about this. In my freshman year I read that and I thought that this was awfully similar to that. But this came after that was written I believe. Possible he read it and thought, "Oh cool, I'm going to do this"

[@datdankdj8264]

The Most Dangerous Game was one of my favorite reads in my earlier high school days, even watched the film on it from the 30s, was very interesting.

[@ZUCKERWATTEQ]

Good book. It is called "the most dangerous game in the world " written by Richard Connell in 1924. A classic in the early 20th century horror literature.

[@PaigeGomperz-gh4gl]

I graduated 8 grade this year and I remember reading that I bet the author got the idea from these kind of horrid cases

[@-_Cyan]

I ended up reading through that for high school as well! It's all I could think about after hearing this story

[@Cesiaj]

Let's not forget that this happened decades ago. But the fact that they doubted her story RIGHT AWAY when she refused the lie detector kinda proves they'd rather believe the perpetrator at the time. Why? Coz of her job. It's just sad how they've already got a bunch of cold murder/missing person cases in the area and they chose not to lean heavily on the first major lead they had.

[@meowingmewmew]

the fact that some killers are just so smart makes it more worrying

[@MrBallen]

Ya seriously

[@icantthinkofaname15]

@Claire Redfield you're right.

[@coaster_chayYT]

@Claire Redfield ayo its Claire redfield from resident evil

[@taraseguin2026]

Psychopaths/sociopaths usually are highly intelligent

[@lyras.9161]

Also really sad that they couldn't direct that passion and intellect towards bettering humanity, instead of murdering innocents.

[@Mycatisademon224]

It's just crazy to me that a teenager who is clearly terrified, can describe everything about this man perfectly and was found running half naked down the road with handcuffs on is not enough evidence to say this is the guy. That's wild.

[@tysoncarter7665]

It's because cops don't generally trust prostitutes. That's one of the things that makes prostitutes easy targets for serial killers.

[@emalinedickinson7492]

@@tysoncarter7665 Pretty big assumption there. Almost like they need something more solid than a story to convict someone.

[@lawlrd6655]

@@emalinedickinson7492 you can be convicted on nothing more than a story.

[@aliciaroelens2630]

@@emalinedickinson7492 It's not an assumption, it's a pattern. Police refuse to believe anything sex workers say most of the time and it's sad

[@anarchistmaverick9507]

@@aliciaroelens2630 nah it ain’t sad 😂

[@Wendyraeful]

I've heard this story so many times, and it's still my number one fear. Absolutely terrifying.The mental torture thinking I'm free to be hunted is absolutely horrifying. Cindy is and was a hero.

[@Deverik1981]

How so? I mean, I'm glad she survived, but at no point did her testimony amount to an arrest.

[@user-yz8tu4et5u]

@@Deverik1981she’s a hero, because she knew she could still be hunted if she came forward. Most people who come forward about something become outed to the media And the murderers could then see her identity and legal name (which could be used for tracking) She also tried her best to help the police as much as possible ALSO the idea of someone surviving such a horrible thing can make someone a hero in other people’s eyes (as an inspiration type thing)

[@laurafortier9295]

Mr. Ballen is the Bob Ross of strange dark and mysterious stories.

[@kristinwojtowich8902]

Oh. My. God. That's fucking PERFECT!!!!

[@smeghead250]

Imagine being the girl who escaped and finding out what she had almost been a victim of.

[@scottcantdance804]

I'm also imagining how many bodies are undiscovered in that general area. I mean, if people just discovered three by accident in an area that is so sparsely populated, imagine how many are buried or laying around in the open and just haven't been found.

[@AcousticGString]

@@scottcantdance804 There were quite a few that they never found of his. They show their pictures at the end of the movie On Frozen Ground.

[@boogityhoo7452]

@@scottcantdance804 it said there were 37 Xs on the map he had and if they found bodies in 4 of those Xs then that means the others are very likely spots of a body. Very sad

[@SaintJohn201]

And then also not be believed by the police

[@normacunningham8913]

@Michael McGrath, She already knew she would be his victim. That's why she ran. If a potential victim sees the killers face. It's obvious they're not going to let her go. She can identify them.

[@JJ-zb7id]

The woman who escaped was really smart for realizing that she would’ve been killed if she didn’t escape right away. That’s so terrifying to think about what could’ve happened to her if she didn’t jump out of the plane.

[@xAlphaBxtch]

If she didn’t escape she might’ve been one of those women who will never be identified. What a horrific story I hope that bastard suffered when he died

[@uneebkhan7451]

@@xAlphaBxtch and the fact that she stopped him from killing so many other women true hero

[@ufn_davi]

Yea she is real smart for that it’s sad seeing so many smart ppl end up as prostitution bc of money need 😔

[@dahlizz99]

Yeah that's a giveaway.. if I ever get robbed by someone who's not masked I'd be a lot more scared than if they were masked

[@dead_rivals29]

The same thing that happend to her after she did

[@friskyfajitas]

how did the profiler know he had a lisp? that dude is crazy good at his job

[@grapevine2506]

Not that hard to figure that out

[@pianomanforlife7]

Right?! Like how does someone begin coming up with that specific of a profile…

[@unknownuser8454]

@@grapevine2506 how tf would he know, he didnt know who the guy was

[@fr3akfr3ak71]

So curious on this also. All the other parts make sense, but the fact he was able to look at the crimes and determine the guy had a lisp is crazy. Makes no sense how that information could be determined.

[@friskyfajitas]

@@fr3akfr3ak71 i’m sure there’s got to be some kind of habits people with lisp’s have that other wouldn’t partake in, maybe it was just a really good guess based off of watching habits?

[@Wizzz2288]

Cindy is a Hero. She was only 17. She suffered at his hands & managed to escape a serial killer & saved so many other girls from suffering the same fate. I do hope Cindy is in a good place & living the life she always wanted to

[@Ihavetostartwipingbetter]

You must have missed the part where Cindy didn't call the police it was the hotel clerk who involved the cops not Cindy it was only after she had to talk to authorities that she did, say someone who sees a fire and doesn't say anything...is that a hero? After she didn't alert the cops immediately Cindy wasn't believed initially she skipped town, if anyone is the hero it's the hotel clerk who called the cops

[@loveistheanswer5924]

​@@IhavetostartwipingbetterPut yourself in her shoes. It was traumatizing for her! She was even brave enough to flee also she helped the police even if it was not easy for her!

[@harmonlanager2670]

@@IhavetostartwipingbetterDude, slag off with that. If I went through that, I’d need a breather too. But she’s the one who survived, told her story, and insisted they check the airport before getting medical attention.

[@Percy_Jackson489]

@@Ihavetostartwipingbetterfirst of all: she was still trying to understand what was happening Second: you shouldn’t have a say in this if your pfp is underwear with shit stains

[@vondoodle4325]

Mr.ballen is like that substitute teacher everyone loves. Gets caught up telling stories all period and we end up getting no class work done

[@aero7285]

True...My teacher does that tho

[@gmfb521]

Haha one class we made our teacher cry an she quit. The school brought in a sub who just told us old war stories. He ended up staying on full time throughout the year, homeboy was dope.

[@aero7285]

@@gmfb521 BEST TURN OF EVENTS EVER!

[@BoredGhostInk]

I loved those types of classes

[@slicedbread5692]

I got that beat.. Senior year my english teacher had a baby like a month into the year and we had a substitute the whole rest of the year.. It was this old Pakistani dude that didnt give a fuckkkk about anything. We never opened a book. Never took a test. Never had homework or classwork. He spent the entire class period drawing students names in cool fonts on index cards to post inside our lockers. Not kidding.. That is literally all he did. Day in and day out just drawing names all fancy like. Can't blame him tho. He was getting paid to chill all day and be one of the homies. If you didnt wanna come to class you just tell him ahead of time and he had your back.. Dude was like 80 years old but the funniest old man i ever met. Mr Manda was a true OG

[@florencehurst3115]

Never realised how much I like the strange, dark and mysterious in story format

[@Ahjude17]

I knew that when I was seven it's been four years of liking the strange

[@RatSpleam]

Once you go strange, dark and mysterious you never go back!

[@PINECONE-gc2jz]

with distracting hand motions

[@CoatedDolphin]

3, 4 even 5 times a week

[@AJ-qe5xj]

I usually don’t cuz I’m a wimp with scary/horror stories but there is something so good about the way he tells all. These stories, I’m addicted.

[@bg1056]

Cindy perfectly described the man, the car driven, the inside of the house, ths hangar, and the plane. A securify guard even noticed suspicious activity of the same plane owner and got a locense plate number. Yet, that somehow wasn't enough to get a search warrant of his house.

[@JesusIsTruthAndWayAndLife]

It's a Alaska - Democrat sh*thole.

[@dianacryer]

Two people saying “ya he was here.” Is not a rock solid alibi.

[@ohitsclemenTIME]

Cindy: escapes, remembers every single detail, left her shoe behind on the plane to show she had been there, takes the police everywhere they need to go. Police: well like...his friend said he was with him so...you should take a lie detector test

[@misscyanide3065]

I got so mad about that.

[@emmataylor160]

@@misscyanide3065 same... Like, of course the sex worker was making it up... Makes me so mad.

[@gavinjohnson6321]

It’s Not Fair

[@GodwaldFlameReverendOfChaos]

So true, Those police unintentionally killed someone because of their Ignorance.

[@jakeevans9746]

Maybe coz people can get framed too.

[@elahinoor1166]

Can we all just thank that security guard for doing his job so well💯💯💯

[@culcune]

Don't forget the motel clerk. While the security guard might not have tied the situation to a crime (keeping in mind a plane's owner would generally be an upper middle class person), he still jotted down the license plate. That was good on him for being a good observer. The clerk made the effort to call the police based on something not seeming to be right with the young guest. That got the 'ball rolling' as far as getting the murderer attention that would eventually be his undoing. On a side note, that was disturbing that a couple people corroborating a simple story could derail the entire young victim's timeline of events, especially considering she had many details up to and including a plane (where the security guard confirmed tying the guy to the girl's story).

[@shaneculkin7124]

@@culcune: You are so very correct. I mean, don't police know that family and friends will definitely LIE for someone they care about?? Alibis should only be like what polygraph tests are: Just a tool on the way to the truth behind crimes.

[@colorbugoriginals4457]

Good ppl are sometimes all that keeps life going, kudos to the mensch.

[@stellarstar9340]

RIIIIIGHT??! Thank God!!! 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻👏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@lavalentina5318]

Yes!!! 🤘🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@thatyoyoguy5326]

Me and my friends watched this video a few years ago, probably around the time it came out at a sleepover. We were traumatized and had achieved exactly what we clicked on it for. Great horror story.

[@deathanimatins6470]

Wow… 2 years I’ve been watching mr Ballen… I’ve watched all his vids, and now shorts, and he never ceases to teach me something more about the strange occurrences that happen in this world.

[@ericadangelo]

I always heard it’s better to die trying to escape then to be taken to a second location, where a much worse fate usually awaits you - and this story confirms why

[@inkbold8511]

Definitely the case! Even if she was handcuffed with gun raised at her, she should try and take the chance while in the car to try and cause a head on collision, this is only way to get attention and if someone is pointing a gun at you, then it's only soon or later that they kill you. So may as well try cause a visible accident before being taken to perpetuators place.

[@juleeanng]

Yes.. it's the thing called don't make a deal with the devil - well because he's a liar and will betray you.

[@yoursleepparalysisdemon8752]

Yeah. I'd rather die on my own terms than theirs. Even if there is no "worse fate", I'd force them to kill me just so they don't get the satisfaction of doing it how they want.

[@pringlw]

This is true. The bad guy wants to move you for a reason. They don’t totally control the place where they nab you, but they DO totally control the place they want to bring you. Your situation will only get worse in a second location. Fight like hell, run, scream but don’t go willingly.

[@justinbrown8902]

Yea that’s what I was thinking I’d rather die escaping, than just waiting for him to take me wherever he’s taking me to kill me

[@hena420]

Shout out to the guy who picked her up no questions asked edit thank u for all the likes :)

[@_helenadesousa]

wtf

[@Gyropop]

@@_helenadesousa what's wrong

[@_helenadesousa]

@@Gyropop oh i thought you meant when he kiddnapped her not when she was saved

[@maddog4u31757]

I actually had a very similar situation in Waycross Georgia in 2008. I was on my way back to college, it was late (11PM-ish), and I was stopped at a stop sign trying to figure out which way to go (no GPS). As I was sitting there (no traffic at the overpass) looking at a map, a lady jumped in the passenger side and just said "drive", which I did. I was kinda freaked out, but I got her away from there and ended up taking her to the police department. Apparently her bf had gotten high on coke and started beating the shit of of her and she ran with him coming after her. People are fucking psycho.

[@Psyrens]

@@maddog4u31757 I hope you find $100 on the ground tmrw. Good on you man, that's an amazing story

[@wesleyorshoski-he8bm]

Been following you for a month now. You are a great story teller. And thank you for your service

[@jessicaduncan9309]

My mother was an English professor in maximum security prisons in the ‘80s, and was Hansen’s teacher. She said he was always polite, but that she had to be locked in a room with him. This made her uncomfortable, in spite of her experience with other killers. It’s thought that, like a more recent AK serial killer, Israel Keyes, the Butcher Baker is responsible for murders in the lower 48. For me, the heartbreaking takeaway is the blatant disregard of sex workers, people as valuable as any others.

[@Near456]

Do you know if the Ak serial killer and butcher baker is in Mr. Ballens list?

[@jessicaduncan9309]

@@Near456 you just saw it. They called him the Butcher Baker because he owned a bakery, and took his victims out to the bush and hunted them. We have an unnerving number of serial killers up here. Another well known one would be Isreal Keyes

[@saradavidson786]

Agreed. It’s very sad. I can’t imagine the horrors prostitutes face on a daily basis. What a terrible life for someone to have. There is hope for anyone to turn it around though!

[@maryanne7161]

@@Near456 The Butcher Baker is this guy Hansen who is the main character of this episode.

[@whidoineedthis]

Sex work is a risky lifestyle

[@thebabyshpee6508]

wait so let me get this straight. The girl ran out of the woods half naked, with a handcuff, told the police her story in vivid detail with nothing left out. Led them to the hanger where the plane was where she left her shoe, some guy who was working at the airport said the owner looked suspicious, they went to the guys house and everything was exactly as she had described it, but they guys friends said he was with them so they were like, "well, he must be innocent."

[@saraschmidt5073]

Or at least, we need to get a lie-detector test on this girl. So infuriating.

[@VerbalVantage]

Well they can’t just charge someone based on someone else’s story. Innocent until proven guilty.

[@vinnytissero5765]

My question, nowadays I wonder how many false alibi there must be. I mean, you never know how can a cop truly believe a 'witness' hug ng his/her friend an alibi that they were with them. Disgusting.😳😡

[@floriantosoni2444]

Yeah...this one was really bad

[@everettcrutchfield7487]

@@VerbalVantage if a fuckin profiler is enough for a raid into his house then her story should have been WAYYY more than enough. it's disgusting tbh and i wouldn't have taken the lie detector test either all those cops deserve the worst

[@zeedawg0899]

That security guard is a good man for taking down that guys license plate, kids always trust your gut feeling

[@robertmedina5997]

What good did that do if the cops did nothing with that information except believe the killer and let him continue his killing spree.SLOPPY POLICE WORK. I hope they were fired since they didn't know how to conduct an investigation. Letting a serial killer keep killing.SMFH..

[@UmarAli-tq8pl]

@@robertmedina5997 damn that's pretty narrow minded and frankly stupid. They wouldn't have been able to do anything without substantial proof against Robert.

[@jamesreney2210]

@@robertmedina5997 The police had no legal basis to get, Hansen, to take a lie detector test. But, they could have put a tracking; device on his vehicle and looked to see where he went, if any kind of a pattern emerges. Over time, it would have. Then using a pretext, they could have questioned him. Discrepancies would soon become apparent, leading to more questions. There's little doubt that inconsistencies would occur. As, Abraham Lincoln, famously said, "To be a good liar, you better have a damn good memory". Most people don't. That's how most criminals get caught.

[@jimmurphy9904]

Yes he is!

[@karenputnam9119]

@@UmarAli-tq8pl pop

[@aseygirl9295]

This is exactly why so many rape victims don’t report it… they know there’s a large chance that nobody will believe them. 😢 This girl did everything she could (and did it well,) to catch this guy, but they believe his friends over a terrified half naked girl running for her life?! It’s disgusting how she was treated - my heart breaks for that girl 🥺

[@dylancobalt7807]

I know so many women who are survivors who were treated like this. It's genuinely disgusting and should be a criminal offense

[@aseygirl9295]

@@dylancobalt7807 It absolutely should be! It’s bad enough women are raped to begin with, but to not be believed afterwards is inhumane.

[@justinshort3623]

I’m hooked on this channel right now, and it’s ironic how great of naps I’ve taken with the strange dark and mysterious playing in the background.

[@Ichigo-dh9rd]

His "friends" should be charged too. Because of their lies, more people were killed.

[@NoName-gd4gv]

They probably thought it was about something small they didn’t know he was a serial killer

[@suhtangwong]

@@NoName-gd4gv yeah, like a whole bunch of cops coming to their lots.

[@suhtangwong]

Exactly what I thought! Potential prevented deaths.

[@annataymond9529]

Never cover for your friends. You’re teaching them their actions don’t have consequences, and there’s always a small possibility you’re putting people at risk.

[@NoName-gd4gv]

@@annataymond9529 yeah I agree

[@stelladunn6225]

If this girl knew almost every detail before the police went there and the police didn’t believe her , that is just messed up.

[@luckyotaku4002]

Well probably Bc she didn’t want to take the lie test thing and plus she was sex worker mostly the time they lie to police and thing I wouldn’t believe her ever Bc of her job so can’t blame them plus there was no evidence against him

[@connorlawson7848]

She didn't take the lie detector and Robert had an alibi proving he wasn't with her

[@liallmiller8275]

It's because he had a strong fabricated alibi, that consisted of 2 false witnesses

[@kreeperking4849]

my god they DID believe her, they literally checked our her story but he had a (fake) alibi

[@Chadblake1]

Lawfully, all evidence can point to someone having done something, but without proof, that person is innocent. Messed up, I know.

[@engineer5833]

I love your usage of your words to represent the content. You saved me a lot of time. And your whole gestures in the video when i watch c: The woods background is funny from my perspective as a new viewer of your channel and zero knowledge of story telling in general ":).

[@PhilipIfeanyi-ef2pc]

The thing I love about ur stories and also ur country is the way research and investigations are being made on any case and also how you details ur stories ❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@unknown-fs3hj]

Everyone's a gangsta until the strange dark and mysterious is delivered in story format

[@Gas2311]

Hagahah

[@spaghettibong3606]

this needs more likes

[@Christian-qq9ys]

Out Generation is the best 😎😎😎

[@davidkelley9072]

Hilarious

[@Gas2311]

@@spaghettibong3606 no because its an old joke

[@little_lion_heart9850]

That girl is an absolute bad ass. Only 17 and realized he was not going to let her go and she had to try and escape and risk dying then to prevent the guarantee of death later. She remembered the hanger, the plane, the man. She did everything right. Also, I don't blame her for not doing the polygraph. I'm glad she got out of town. I hope her life got better from there.

[@heidihogshire]

She could probably also see how little the cops cared and seemingly were looking for reasons to disbelieve her. In the face of all she gave them, plus the airfield security guard's information -- the dude's two friends saying they were with him is hardly "a rock solid alibi"!

[@ebayerr]

Little_Lion_Heart : She tells the cops about being chained up and assaulted in his basement,but when they have a chance to look around his house they don't go down into the basement? Just what the F? Frigging clown show could've cost someone else their life. Oh.And I guess those asshats never stopped to consider his alibis were lying for him?

[@justgreen4298]

the police where like: "uh? why you no trust our monkey tech? uh uh uh?"

[@mattg4836]

She probably though she would get arrested if she failed the lie detector

[@bestoftwoworlds9925]

She had/has bad PTSD but was basically scared straight. Read the book Butcher Baker if you are interested in this case.

[@CaptainPlanet792]

Part of this torture that seems to get overlooked is that fact this was in Alaska and these women had to run with no clothes on for hours or days. So not only are they handcuffed and blindfolded but they are freezing. That makes it even worse.

[@carolinekuhlwein5620]

I've been watching for a while and just wanted to say thank you.. You do a great job tell there story's.... Thank you.

[@stinkycheese7046]

Mr. Ballen is the only man with a backwards hat I can trust

[@vincenthucknall7175]

What about mark rober?

[@McFartsnatcher]

Hahaha. So true. Also the only guy I trust that wears so many plaid shirts.

[@fanalittletruthincog8168]

I second that!

[@paulmccormick3745]

Not only a backwards hat but a hillbilly mustache also

[@CLEE93]

Ash ketchum?

[@syre97]

Wait...this girl gave them detailed accounts of the hanger, the plane, the house and the guy that ALL checked out yet when this man’s FRIENDS gave him an alibi they figured it must be the girl that is mistaken somehow? Make that make sense.

[@raven6949]

I'm still trying to understand yet it still isn't adding up to me either, smh 🤦🏽‍♀️

[@hx5525]

@@raven6949 I mean, she refused the lie detector test and ran away, the guy had alibi so was innocent until proven guilty. Anyways from the police’s pov, the girl could’ve been on drugs or something too

[@KateBates22zabu]

@@raven6949 no. She must have had bruises from being hung on a chain & assaulted? They didn't even do a rape kit....

[@rebeccamarie6]

Right!! WTH!! Wonder how they feel now? Hopefully stepped up their game., but the loss of life for them to learn a lesson.. blood on their hands, hope they slept well

[@grover6621]

It’s called sexism, the police are more likely to believe the male than the female

[@angelakallel2475]

They made a movie out of this. So sad that this happened but the movie makes you feel how they felt. Them poor girls. Very well done Mr. Ballen on telling this story. Your very good at telling great stories

[@larryr191]

Thank you Mr Ballen!! Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours

[@StriderWolf]

refusing to take a lie detector test isn't a sign of guilt or trying to hide something. its pretty common knowledge that those things are notoriously unreliable so lots of people refuse to take them out of fear that they might have a false positive and wrongly incriminate them.

[@rsgonga2985]

I was thinking the same thing during the video.

[@yolo9050]

Right? Like imagine if she had taken the lie detector test and it tested her as a liar, then police would have completely gone the other direction with her case, and even in finding the new evidence they may have tried to search for another suspect cause "Well Cindy said it was this guy, but our lie detector said she was lying, so it must not be him"

[@tekubus]

Lie detectors are a pseudo science.

[@ashgamingrobloxminecraft4237]

NoPE

[@leviisfine6829]

@@ashgamingrobloxminecraft4237 uhh yes

[@KimberlyNicoleBeauty]

Does anyone else completely forget that he hides something because they are completely captivated by his voice and the story?!? I know it’s not just me!!

[@civial21]

If im not looking at his face i feel like i can't concentrate on the story 😅

[@Toriana_Shavon_LaVannah_Blade]

I’ve never looked for the avatar. I’m always too engrossed in the story. So, it’s not just you Kimberly 😉

[@WyattRyeSway]

I usually can’t find them even after I have read where in the video it is. I’m hopeless. Maybe I’m just concentrating on the story. I don’t know.

[@Toriana_Shavon_LaVannah_Blade]

@@WyattRyeSway Same here, you’re not alone either.

[@katherineheasley6196]

Yeah, I use this like a podcast because his storytelling is so good that his voice alone is enough to visualize the whole thing. Even when I've watched because of there being a picture or video with the story, though, I'm too distracted by the story to find the secret.

[@stevelucas493]

My Brother in Arms always epic stories and you tell them so well. Thank you.

[@AidanMelvin-kr7ir]

This was the start of my mr ballen journey

[@annikkirahko6714]

I love how a couple guy saying, “yeah he was with us” is enough to discount the girl, and security guards story and license plates and shit

[@SilentKnight43]

I thought the same. Let's discount all this other overwhelming evidence on the simple "yeah, he was with us". Reminds me somewhat of the Paul Bernardo serial killer investigation...such ineptitude.

[@portal740]

world class police work right there.

[@tatevikgrigoryan6360]

Well, a girl runs without pants in a highway and calls the police for shits and giggles every day, what can police do - believe all of them? *sarcasm*

[@Jannakennels]

They did believe her, but you need to build enough evidence to arrest someone. Had she cooperated she likely could have saved some lives.

[@timklafke4712]

@@portal740 I think it's moreso the justice system's fault. I'm no expert on this stuff, but there must have been something that legally stopped them from being able to search the house or arrest the dude. Honestly the cops probably would have wanted to take that guy in then and there, but who knows.

[@CaulkMongler]

The fact those guys corroborated his stories to give him an alibi… ridiculous. I hope they feel guilty that they potentially helped him get away with murder for much longer than necessary.

[@cookiesnmilk9200]

I hope they got charged

[@teradavis7811]

who the hell decides that that's an alibi anyway, there was no proof what so every!!!

[@shanesawyer5103]

Lazy police work

[@notme222]

​@@cookiesnmilk9200 They were threatened with perjury but I believe the charge was dropped in exchange for them testifying against him. Which I agree, really sucks. You shouldn't get away with lying to the police during an investigation.

[@notme222]

@@teradavis7811 That's the definition of alibi. In this country proof is required for guilt. We don't require people to prove they're innocent. It would have been nice if the cops had leaned on them to check for inconsistencies. But then again, maybe they planned to once they had a lie detector report to back up Cindy's story.

[@deenomeeno]

I’m on a roll catching up! Been binge watching your vids for 3 straight days!

[@megankendall8121]

In my early 20's I had a guy say he was a professional photographer and wanted me to meet him to take my picture. Good thing I was suspicious and thought he was a creep. It may not have ended up this bad but it's never worth the risk.

[@Arakia]

Same thing happened to me in my 20s, in WA. I had stopped for directions, and as I got back in my car a man in his 40's, roundish puffy face, thinning blonde hair, approached and said he was a photographer. He wanted me to go with him. I declined, said I'd take his card. He didn't have one, and tried to convince me several more times, that I also declined, until he walked away. I drove off, and kept looking to see if I was followed. Idk what kind of creeper he was, but no doubt he was lying.

[@megankendall8121]

@@Arakia that is so scary!

[@maryanne7161]

@@Arakia I hope other girls didn't fall for his lies...

[@diontaedaughtry974]

The worst serial killer is the one that's 10 steps ahead us. While you're liking and trusting them they're studying and plotting on you.

[@carbon-based-lifeform9172]

All serial killers are equally bad, and scary, but some are indeed smarter.

[@rahulmenon4357]

IMO that's not 10 steps ahead, but I don't go around liking and trusting people. It's about the intent people have. You might be looking for a friend, they are looking to dahmer your ass.

[@thelazygamer2195]

@@rahulmenon4357 You’d be surprised how charismatic those types of people can be. Serial Killers have to be extremely cunning so they don’t get caught. And that cunning allows them to manipulate people with ease

[@anointedquad3520]

Fuck up😓

[@ioccatonyz1]

Yes, the Democrat party, just ask Seth Rich...

[@relliknomed2302]

I’m not surprised that Cindy refused the lie detector test. To be a victim of such a horrific crime and then to hear that the cops don’t believe you would probably be enough to break you.

[@xxnario7286]

@Azzir And you didn't understand the comment. When police asked her to do the test, it meant that they didn't believe her. So, they didn't believe her -> asked for a polygraph test -> she said "no". It doesn't matter what MrBallen said. For police to ask someone to do a polygraph test, they have to have suspicion that the person is not telling the truth. The fact that she refused the test only reassured them in their own suspicion. They didn't think that there could have been another reason to refuse the test, other than lying.

[@luigicadorna8644]

In any case, I’m pretty surprised that given all of the information that the victim was able to provide that matched the killer, they dropped him as a suspect immediately just because his friend vouched for him over the phone. Not only that, but they then started doubting the victim. You know, the woman who was found running out of the forest, naked and terrified, wearing handcuffs. At the very least they should have asked the guy if he would go down to the station to answer some questions.

[@crescentmoon5859]

@@luigicadorna8644 Wasn't it pants off and no shoes or socks?

[@mentalpopcorn2304]

@@luigicadorna8644 you must have missed the information given. 2 friends gave alibis that lined up. I doubt when asking, the cops would be fully transparent and ask "were you with __ at this time last night?" And it'd be more like "what were you doing around (this time) last night?" Ultimately I don't know how it was asked, so it's all speculation. But if it is the latter, for 2 separate people to give matching alibis would be pretty convincing. At the end of the day, she should've just taken the polygraph test. It would've erased any doubt and brought the killer to justice much faster. Cops ask for polygraph tests to determine what is truth and what isn't.

[@lizzystar5346]

@@mentalpopcorn2304 Well the poly graphs have been proven to be ineffective. Lots of false positives and false negatives Not as reliable as once thought Just a tid bit

[@heidikennedy9298]

I can’t sleep without listening to Mr Ballen ,his voice has a calming effect on me. Love him❤️💋

[@silverlily2389]

Wow that profiler was a pro. How do they do that, though? Also, glad Cindy made it out

[@chelseamae3012]

The idea of him hunting those poor women is horrifying. I can't imagine how terrified they must have felt, slowly realising that there was no escape and they were going to die, even though they'd tried so hard to get away.

[@gamechan7889]

WDYM THAT SOUND SO COOL, jkjk

[@pissbutt5702]

@@gamechan7889 😐

[@yellowpeepee6012]

@@gamechan7889 sounds hawt af

[@gamechan7889]

@@yellowpeepee6012 what XD XD

[@lindairvine7679]

Terrible 😞

[@patsyhodge9071]

i think its insulting to ask Cindy to do a polygraph test after all she went through and all the details she provided to them. Poor Cindy.

[@ssjalpha6593]

How??? He had two alibis and his apartment was clean. It was her word against 3. They can’t just arrest a guy because someone said he did something. Stop thinking with emotions.

[@jayandny.]

@@ssjalpha6593 well if they actually would've dug deep into the so called alibis like sooooo many cops have done before which is pretty common sense then they would've figured it out. Use your head!

[@leviosa5405]

@@ssjalpha6593 well Cindy was just 17 and went through hell right before that. She was definitely thinking with her emotions.. she probably was spooked as the cops didn't trust her and the polygraph is not 100% accurate all the time. She probably feared she would end up loosing and was frustrated about the whole ordeal..🤷🏿‍♀️🤷🏿‍♀️

[@brennathecatlover4360]

@@jayandny. but if 2 people say the same thing it’s obviously gonna sound believable as most people would think and they couldn’t at first find anything to prove he did it

[@Petra44YT]

Exactly! This is outright discrimination because she was an exotic dancer.

[@anisaabdi1066]

Your story telling is both interesting and captivating🎉 always looking forward to them 💥🔥🔥

[@lambdaplex]

Police will leave high profile people suspecting victim itself..what a society

[@tyrannosaurusbecs2571]

Only 17? That's so sad. And some of them were just girls, still teenagers. I hope Cindy was able to get the help and support she needed after that.

[@marielynn7369]

Omg me too💔

[@jennharrison5579]

Yes actually she did. I saw a show on this and it said she went back to the streets but not for hooking. She now helps other hookers get off the streets

[@tyrannosaurusbecs2571]

@@jennharrison5579 That's amazing!

[@kailamaree4402]

@@jennharrison5579 Do you remember the name of it? I would love to watch it.

[@jennharrison5579]

@@kailamaree4402 it was a 20/20 episode but I can't remember the name of the episode.

[@braedondavies9592]

I can't imagine what that poor woman had to go through. No one should ever have to endure torture like that. Good on that security guard for following his gut feeling.

[@BenjiTheStaffy]

Those*

[@johnnyfire3860]

Right, those women

[@glennmayer469]

and the cops still gave the killer the benefit of the doubt even with so many red flags smh

[@braedondavies9592]

Fair enough, all of those women.

[@MadisonDay2002]

You know Mr. Ballen made it when you get a Mr. Ballen ad before a Mr. Ballen Video. 😌👏🏻 well done sir

[@arnljot9030]

How could they not trust her, she literally described his house and plane etc.

[@viciousbite8161]

She also refused a lie detector test and found no evidence about him being a serial killer

[@arnljot9030]

@@viciousbite8161 It's still weird to totally drop the case and see him as innocent, why would she run naked out of nowhere and describe everything in detail....

[@mymelody4098]

@@viciousbite8161 i can understand why she didn’t want to take the lie detector test, and having the police ask her to take the test showed they were having doubts, and honestly being traumatized like that and still being doubted i wouldn’t take the test either considering the lie detector isnt really accurate

[@shubhampradhan32]

@@arnljot9030 Bro she refused to take lie detector test, why would police believe her. Police did the right thing they checked on his house and found no evidence. what more could police have done??

[@shubhampradhan32]

@@mymelody4098 I think police did whatever they could! In underdeveloped countries Police wouldn't even take it seriously.

[@niketuck9687]

Cindy is a hero, She came back to the scene of the crime as fast as possible to get that guy

[@sinonwheels1]

Omg you you have the knack of building suspense!

[@PoliticiansLie2Us]

Love your stories Mr Ballen. 👍🧡

[@theresareynolds3133]

When he gave the officers permission to look around why didn’t they check the basement

[@treeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee]

My guess is that they did but he maybe hid the chain? Or there could've been like no blood what are they gonna do with no evidence other than a ceiling accessory

[@eatmyshorts8406]

police just dosent care most of the time tbh, they probably did the bare minimum and left

[@luckyotaku4002]

@@eatmyshorts8406 you wasn’t there don’t really know if they check everything or not he probably hid thing serial killer are pretty good with that

[@adamm.michael7500]

They were probably his hunting buddies. "Nope nothing to see here." The other maps sitting in there dresser drawers.

[@beth-annrock237]

I was thinking the exact same thing! Didn’t make any sense why they didn’t! Especially when that woman had said she was in his basement.

[@mickefy682]

I totally understand why Cindy took off; when the police start looking at YOU as the trouble maker, it’s only a matter of time before you’re locked up, instead of the the actual perpetrator.

[@TrineDaely]

That's especially true for sex workers. It's even worse that in most places a trafficking victim will do more time for the forced prostitution than the people who sold them.

[@mickefy682]

@@TrineDaely Yes!! The laws need to change to PROTECT those workers so they’re not afraid to seek help.

[@victoriapulcifer6218]

Not to mention Cindy probably knew that her results would be impacted by her having recently been horribly assaulted and being forced to flee for her life. She was so scared the whole time that the polygraph would have surely implied she was lying. Even if they wanted to polygraph Robert too, if most people pit the words of a hysteric woman, a prostitute no less, against the words of a clean white man that kept his cool under pressure and freely let police investigate him... Tbh, I'd get the hell out too.

[@JamesMerlaut]

@@mickefy682 The Police didn't distrust her; they needed more than a single testimony in order to get a search warrant, they needed more evidence on Robert. There was also another possibility that could not be ruled out in their minds as they investigated... she could be an angry ex girlfriend, that's why she knew all of those specific details. They of course believed her story, but they needed sonething to compel a judge to find just cause to issue a search warrant on a person's property. In this case... it was the results of the lie detector. That would prompt a judge to issue a search warrant, therefore allowing them to gather the evidence they needed to convict Robert. Police can't just charge into someone's property and flip it upside down. Judges can't just give search warrants out like candy otherwise the State can be sued. This is going to sound like victim blaming... but Cindy should have taken the lie detector.

[@Kiterpuss]

@@JamesMerlaut Lie detector tests aren't viable bases for legal documents like warrants. The judge could have signed off the warrant without any further evidence if the officers stated reasonable suspicion; if there wasn't enough evidence to support that suspicion before the LDT, the LDT wasn't going to make any difference.

[@juliaburke6844]

Well... new fear unlocked 🥺 I hope Cindy has the most wonderful life, and I am heartbroken for all those women and how terrified and helpless they felt.

[@cjgameon264]

This story was bone chilling, to say the least. And this is my first time hearing about this. He's definitely one of the worse serial killer.

[@IDunnoYouTellMe2152]

I was a teenager, living in Anchorage, at the time of this serial killer. I have been to Hansen’s Bakery. My good friend, KT, WORKED AT HANSEN’S BAKERY! She used to bring us donuts and apple turnovers every week! Thank GOD, my friend wasn’t an exotic dancer.

[@messagefromme9991]

That is crazy and so good to hear nothing happened must be scary just thinking being put into that situation 😱

[@cryptonarekhan6536]

LOL send this video to her

[@ruka8106]

I was an FBI agent who was a part of search warrant,

[@wallnut5910]

I can't tell if that's just classic America or a horrific case

[@doubled1108]

@@wallnut5910 definitely some shit that goes on more often then you would think I’m America I’m sad to say. There are many evil people in the world and somehow a lot of them seem to be in America or that’s al least where they get the most publicity

[@christianfassnacht6203]

Anyone else find Mrballen and now watches every video that comes out as soon as you can?

[@ikeukira6678]

Yes i do found him a couple days ago and have been binge watching his videos since

[@sarlleu4932]

It isn´t the fisrt video I ever watch of Mr. Ballen, but somehow is one of the videos I remember the most of him and it gave me material to work for a homework I was stuck on hahaha. I thank that day that I stumbled across that video on facebook that let me to this channel therfore to this video. I wasn´t the first and pretty sure I won´t be the last person to enjoy and be entertained with his videos. Luv u Mr. Ballen :3

[@jessicavangenderen6540]

I'm so enraged by this. Instead of idk putting those men through a lie detector they accuse the underaged victim of a violent sex crime of lying and ask her to take a lie detector test. I would have refused and left too. That poor girl. All those poor women. 💔

[@jessicavangenderen6540]

@TiredKammi she was literally found fleeing for her life with clear signs of restraint and assault. But SHE got the lie detector. Gtfo.

[@margosmith3459]

By refusing and leaving you’re not getting any revenge on the guy and you’re just letting him get away with hurting more people. Shit choice.

[@jessicavangenderen6540]

@@margosmith3459 it's not about revenge at all? If they are already believing this guy over such an obvious victim, why would she have ANY faith or conviction in their willingness to help her? They are treating her like a liar after a seriously traumatic experience. People who believe the cops are only there to help and find the truth have clearly never had to deal with the police when dealing with sex crimes. I was 15 when I tried to report long-term SA and was put in a freezing cold interview room, alone with a male officer who crowded me, spoke over me, and condescendingly said "that sounds like it would have been painful" and also asked why I wasn't more upset when I was detailing my experience for the report. He made it his mission to discourage me from making an official report, he said after such a long time since the first incident and the last (which had been several years prior) attempting to investigate would have been a waste of their time. I told him that I wanted to report it since the man involved was a foster carer and literally had a pool of vulnerable children in his care. Still a waste of their time and resources. I left feeling like I'd just been through a freaking battle and shared my most traumatic experiences for absolutely nothing. I can't imagine trusting the police after barely escaping with my life and then having them tell me I have to take a lie detector test because they found the guy I had told them did that to me, but he says he didn't do it so, you must be lying.

[@unknownuser8454]

So ur a retarded feminist? They had a solid alibi with 3 ppl, she couldve been lying.

[@unknownuser8454]

@@jessicavangenderen6540 Girls lie abt rape all the damn time and girls bitch abt everything. So y would ppl take women serious

[@RAVEN_SPRING_]

Just knowing those men lied to save Robert without knowing what he did. Ultimately making the police completely distrust a survivor is maddeningly frustrating.

[@ilovefans-x1m]

I feel like they know and do it too

[@marcoaraiza9381]

​@@ilovefans-x1myeah, a psycho like Robert probably offered them chances to assualt the women in his basement which is why they covered for him

[@dwaynewrighton8547]

Hunters club. Wouldn't surprise me if they took turns hunting

[@DennisMoore664]

I'm with the other people here who have said they probably knew what he did and may have taken part in either the rapes and/or the murders. They should have been arrested and charged for providing false alibis.

[@dwaynewrighton8547]

It's why he straight up forgot where some of the victims were buried - they weren't his kills

[@joshi7434]

I keep thinking that ghosts, demons, crocs , sharks all these deadly stuff are the most scary stuff, however I forgot that humans really are the most terrifying

[@stubert94]

Humans are apex predators

[@lauren9373]

Humans? Men?

[@kathylain7795]

You do have a point some people are just f****** the head

[@percnowitzki1724]

These humans are demons

[@muddfriend6885]

My lady told me her mama said that all the time

[@pixiedragon5085]

AHHHHHH, okay.... rewatched it. 😜😘🥰 PS Love you Mr.Ballen... I'll pay attention next time ☺️🥰

[@autarko]

This guy is so evil. Cindy was very brave. She probably didn't want to take the test because she didn't trust the police to protect her and it would take a few more hours. Also she couldn't believe they needed more from her after all she'd told them. This story was one of the toughest to listen to.

[@mamadukes911]

The moral of the story is: never ever comply with anyone who asks you to lie to the police and be an alibi for them! You will not only protect yourself but could possibly save a current victim & future victims of serial killers.

[@logeyperogi1805]

If someone said they needed an alibi, I’d lie and say I would be one but when the time would come for me to make good on my promise, well, a promise and a law aren’t the same thing, I can make a promise, but unlike a law, I don’t need to hold true to it

[@mikemcdermott7760]

As I recall he told them he was with prostitutes and thats why he needed the alabi. Alaska in the '80s was still wild and overwhelmingly male. Whats weird is how many serial killers were operating in the Pacific NW at the same time. So many ultra young prostitutes then too.

[@McFunnyBone]

Moral of the story is actually to be more cautious with strangers. But we only learned that in 1st grade.

[@ash_tray]

Absolutely! He could’ve saved lives if he didn’t lie for him.

[@scottsmith4145]

I hope the alibis got hefty fines or jail sentences for lying to police. Its insane anyone would do that!

[@Momo-tc7sc]

One thing I’ve learned from watching this channel is keep your eye on the well-groomed dude who owns his own business, home, car, and seems like a pillar of the community. 9 times out of 10 he’s the guy with a body count.

[@shanelorrison5224]

In this instance it pays to be a loser.

[@jamie6387]

Morgan Woodard the same thing black people hate cops do to them?

[@kikifox7111]

@@norcalbowhunter3264 they probably didn’t mean it’s literally 9 out of 10 people, but that’s just how it feels like 😅

[@shanelorrison5224]

👍🏼

[@0r0r0]

Creeps, abusers, users, and general psychopaths hide in society. They know how to blend in. Always trust what people do and say. If they seem off, it's probably because they are.

[@MainDudeTwo]

Thanks I totally couldent see the dude covering half the screen in the thumbnail without the giant red arrow pointing towards him

[@marvindagada9575]

I love this channel man dont let anyone tell you different

[@kash.dinero]

it’s so sad that they asked cindy to take the lie detector test instead of asking him.

[@rajeevdwarika4788]

It is beyond sad.

[@TymP321]

Amen. They already had a known predator on adult workers, yet they're going to disregard her. Shameful.

[@tylerbailey470]

Typical police officer is under intelligent nypd had a district court case for not hiring a guy who scored too high they admitted to it but were found by the court of course that this was ok.

[@lonelyfans6935]

@mike scott This wasnt just a simple r@pe case, she was literally kidnapped. Her story describing his house was enough for the cops to actually consider a polygraph test for him. and compared to the percentage of r@pes that are true, the percentage of ppl who lie are extremely small. Ur so sad smh.

[@crazyyyou]

Yup! Very messed up.

[@NickWright]

They made a movie on this called “Frozen Ground”. They did an incredible job on it.

[@ninjagay9767]

Ratio

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[@ghoul4life462]

Where could I watch it?

[@gearhead24-7o3]

Yes! I thought i knew this story!

[@cliffroberts1774]

@@ghoul4life462 Movie7

[@kaos2405]

If you are ever running for your life and you have a cuffed hand, and the other cuff is dangling for your own sake cuff the same hand. That way whoever is after you can't attach it to anything else.

[@PenguinOfficial847]

Mr Ballen you always make the most random intros. I don’t hate them. Keep the great work up!

[@TrevorNet]

It’s so hard to not support the death penalty when coming across cases like this. The unimaginable amount of horror those girls went though... I just couldn’t imagine. The only sense of justice would have to be delivered through the hands of another lifer.

[@vegetaking1272]

@Azzir Amen my friend, real talk! These mofos needs to pay yo! That’d stop some sickos from doin what they has/have planned to do b/c honestly it makes u really think bout ur crimes! No one wants to be tortured/beaten to death, even sickos n psychopaths n murderers n rapists n serial killers wudnt a painful death like that? Real talk💯💯💯

[@jackmccoy1292]

I have an idea to reduce prison costs, Haneous violent crimes should be a death sentence, the way it’s carried out; Don’t feed them, first time they get sent to death row no food or water for them.

[@redairship]

Blood Eagles or Scaphism for a lot of these sick bastards

[@katsanddoggies9904]

@Azzir Democrats cry about the death penalty, but not for the unborn babies.

[@ryderstine8773]

@@katsanddoggies9904 yeah, keyword “unborn”. we give a shit about organisms that have conscious thought and awareness of their existence, not an embryo that doesn’t know it’s an embryo.

[@titaniumsyn7628]

Cindy is the real hero of this story. I hope she's ok. What a powerful girl.

[@gobo6175]

Thank you,someone actually talking about the case for once

[@rocketmanfossel1174]

She surely was mentally hurt after seeing that police didn't believe her after all the torture she experienced. She truly lost the trust in humanity

[@Misssydney]

@@gobo6175 was going to say the same thing. If you didn’t know or see my comment, Robert Hansen owned a popular bakery that a lot of people suspected they ate his victims. I was born and raised in anchorage Alaska and already knew about this.

[@bmackenzie2740]

@@Misssydney oh wow! That’s horrible! I remember reading a book along the same story line many years ago but never realized it was a true story. Those poor women 😞

[@gobo6175]

@@Misssydney wow

[@mellyr701]

The fact that serial killers with confessions don’t get the death penalty is beyond me.

[@TruthNerds]

Alaska doesn't have the death penalty.

[@nsc217]

Why is it an alibi for friends to say someone was with them the night before? That’s insane. These cops should do jail time for their negligence and idiocy

[@sweetmissypetuniawilson9206]

Who else is stuck in the never ending loop of Mr Ballen? 👀

[@v1ncecuh116]

My Brother

[@kitsnap1228]

Yes

[@TokyoXtreme]

I feel like I'm trapped upside-down and stuck in the Ballen loop.

[@sweetmissypetuniawilson9206]

@@TokyoXtreme I've almost watched them all now.....😲 Imma have to wait like everyone else 😥

[@goodfellaz8243]

Wonder what ull do when u find out almost all his shit is false or exaggerated 😆 🤣 u guys make me laugh.. there's a reason he tells u n dont show you any paper work or interviews

[@Redspeciality]

His “alibi” witnesses should be prosecuted for accessory to murder.

[@Hug0Pro]

They didint know he killed someone. He probably told them them some innocent bs.

[@amandazavala4659]

@@Hug0Pro yeah but ppl go to jail for accidents they didn't knew they where committing this shouldn't had been the exeption😞

[@eatmyshorts8406]

@@Hug0Pro they still lied. it dosent matter if they knew or not, as far as i know lying to the police is a crime

[@AlexanderMason1]

@@eatmyshorts8406 sure. It’s a crime, but not accessory to murder.

[@lonewanderer7126]

@@eatmyshorts8406 lying to the police is a crime? HAHAHAHA the police are lying all the time

[@jasonrublaitus7144]

Cindy was very smart to not do the polygraph… she knew that if she failed it, they would likely arrest her for reporting a false crime.

[@dexterlogan7062]

I saw the movie they made about this, Frozen Ground with John Cusack, that description by the survivor, Cindy, was depicted very closely in the movie, when watching it it creeped me out so much, the whole thing in his house was so eerie, terrifying and depressing

[@jennatroisi1593]

That was so intense. I have such hatred for that man. You did a great job describing a monster snd also showing compassion for his victims

[@MrPerre80]

Is`t just me that will make a blood eagle on this man. If he was still living. Northern style..

[@shunsweeney9020]

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[@ancientsoul5608]

It's just hilarious to me in a way though, because people will be fascinated by these types of stories and they will easily see how real it is that evil people exist in our world - people who are psychologically evil predators. But then their brains do some type of amazing short-circuiting thing when you attempt to explain to them that these types of people are the people who run the world. They will sit there and deny it for hours, no matter how much research you have done and no matter how much evidence you give them to prove it. Evil people exist. Period. And they figured out (10s of thousands of years ago, if not longer) that if they all come together and work in unity to psychologically dominate and enslave the masses that they can become the "gods" of the earth. The evidence is OVERWHELMING if you actually do your research. But I can already see people trying to attack me for saying this now... Lol the mind-control and programming is incredibly strong. Wake up people. You ARE slaves. Your only hope is to pursue your freedom at all costs. Educate yourselves and your friends and family. Do your research. Knowledge and awareness is the first step.

[@stacczk7182]

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[@lucarain2936]

It's scary to imagine how many killers out there currently blend in with the people around them and have zero suspicion against them.

[@joshmocherman5528]

And how many active serial killers there are at any given time yet never get found out until it's too late, if at all!

[@yoloodevil4170]

Yup and with how big the U.S is compared to other countries the ratio of potential killers is even bigger.

[@olderloverxx]

And why there are SOOO many in USA!

[@RebelTvShka]

@@olderloverxx Because they can get away with it easier. It's not an anomaly in the human mind, it's not abnormal. The only thing keeping most people in line is their own self interest and values.

[@willber318]

I just had to google the homicide rates for the uk 😟 I hadn’t given it much thought before now

[@joanncole773]

He's a good person he tells the story down to the point I like the stories that he tells

[@CSharpBeats]

Watched this last year. Just saw 'The Frozen Ground' so now i'm back to rewatch John's retelling of this case.