Base Lovin 22 : Ultra Late game Builds: Oxygen not included

[@GrindThisGame]

Nuts

[@AbstractHexagon]

That’s a type 2 civilization!

[@etvon32]

My laptop is heating up just playing the video, these builds are just crazy.

[@basedlegit]

84 tons of Insulation... Oh... my... god :)

[@ajaygulia6300]

best base ever seen to see my weakness!!

[@cullyn]

yes!

[@AviroBebek]

Crazy, pure craziness. Both my brain and my i5 16gb laptop can't handle those

[@SpaceDoge103]

the 90 billion shine bugs: "taste the sun!"

[@Vortama]

"What do you call that much super coolant?" A good start

[@KingSquriell]

Oh no

[@chaosstripe9446]

A small ocean.... In someone else's words, rookie numbers.

[@Saturas35142]

@@chaosstripe9446 Add more zeroes!!!!

[@basedlegit]

It's insane how people actually spend their whole life to build these mega-bases... I could only stand for at most 1.5k-2k cycles... My computer ain't a fan of that tho lol...

[@rolandireland4093]

This map is also pretty old, I wanted to make a crazy petroleum boiler after I saw they changed seeds to potentially have more than 3 oil wells, and the maximum I could find at the time was 36, that was August last year lol. Most of the builds are ideas basically taken from other people, and I definitely spent far more than 493 hours with crashes, systems failing fantastically, etc. I also never played Factorio for those asking. Thanks for showing my map!

[@khkpck]

This SEED would cool For a mega Sourgas boiler, my biggest one can handle 60kg oil per sec

[@suyogv8235]

it still looks like ridiculous factorio throughput. You should try that game its really fun.

[@tytwiwi5582]

Your base is so insane dude.

[@gypseetim]

okay I love how insane your american dream base is but what I really loved was the pixel packs with the wattage sensors as a visual indicator of power consumption, I'm gonna yoink that, good job dude!

[@Aharpoon24]

Looking over from not yet getting passed mid-game...... mind blown

[@IamCoalfoot]

This base is chock full of things you make not because you need them, but because you just want to prove you can.

[@FrancisJohnYT]

I'm not sure "prove" is the right word. I think it's more about seeing if you can.

[@pedrolmlkzk]

Its more of a "-Why? -Why not?" Situation

[@lasinthas4152]

old video i know, but here i am just happy i can build a petroleum boiler....

[@Strabo4]

Both bases are amazing 0____o

[@capucino3489]

5:19 This guy saw what's coming from klei like 8 months ago. insane

[@selensewar]

15:05 this is art.

[@kayson971]

Those pipings in the last base reminds me of factorio belt bases lolol

[@seandavis1189]

he tries that decor trick now and the dups die instantly from radiation

[@denkih272]

I do the same thing with generators, they don't overheat because they stay the same temperature as the CO2 that they give off and any extra heat is vented off. The CO2 generated always comes out at the same temp.

[@fleefie]

I'm scared of what will happen when Klei will optimize the game way better for multithreading. People with this kind of dedication usualy have insane CPUs. Once the lag barrier is removed, i'm calling it, we'll get automation-wire-based computers and bases litteraly filled completely on all overlays... I am in fear from just knowing this.

[@atomicdynamite1937]

Fear?? We should be excited! I can't wait to see what these amazing people can do. The possibilities would be endless! Although Francis would probably fear the excess neatness that may follow with the extra time and flexibility no lag allows.

[@JD_Mortal]

Multi-cpu's, cores or threads, don't help when you are using hundreds of thousands of "randomly generated numbers", at every tick. Only one number is generated, which depends on the prior generated number, to get the next one. You can't spread that linear math into multiple processing. It also involves a LOT of long division to calculate each new random number. If they changed to simple physics calculations instead, which would have the same effect... the game would be 4000x faster. As well as using simple bit-maps for storing data, as opposed to using a "database" for saving data. It is faster to manipulate bits with GPU acceleration than it is to attempt to insert/update ANY database values, in any "table". (Plus, you get the bonus of not needing to translate a database into an IMAGE, because the values area already in an image format. (Even overlays are faster, because you are just using fast GPU blending to merge images with simple filters. Again, as opposed to "thinking" about the data and then processing it and then creating a graphical display from that data.) The best thing they did was "stack" similar items into piles that just grow in size. As opposed to leaving each individually dropped item as small, individual items scattered all over the map. I have a single water bottle filled with 89,832,483Kg of water. They just take what they need from it, when it is needed. Zero fluid dynamics calculated per tick... :P

[@jakobbenjamin98]

22:12 call it a "super poolant"

[@sicariusdracus]

Two years later...

[@mr_frible3061]

15:06 would fry anyones brain

[@fractalgem]

"molten aluminum coolant, that's excessive" meanwhile Me, seriously considering using molten steel as a coolant to then melt insulation, but likely going to just slap down some insulation deodorizers in space to melt it instead... 15:05 I'm a bit surprised they didn't try to just....use a sink-like faucet to vent co2 into space passively instead of needing pumps for it. I see they DO have a working insulation melter!

[@eugenejackson1358]

"that is some glorious piping" hehe

[@PicaMula]

Jesus Christ this video is absolutely ridiculous! I love it! Best base lovin video ever!

[@FrancisJohnYT]

I can't take any credit, the level of dedication involved in this is amazing.

[@spar0mast]

"Todays theme (...) Guys you should have stopped playing a long time ago bases" *Looks at the rocket chimney, "Let's flood the whole map" FJ video being recommended*

[@mirjanbouma]

He's speaking from experience! 😂

[@Thetreetroll]

👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@Eric4372]

Frozen Oyxgen Included

[@civiere]

That sour gas boiler on the first map! Now i havent watched the rest yet, but that has to be the MVP right? Its not confusing francis, its beautiful!!! Such an ingenious way of reusing the temperatures!!

[@civiere]

Yup, i think he is. Second base is amazing, absolutly. But the smart enginering on that boiler wins it for me. 👍

[@sandcastle1310]

oh my god, the second base gas overlay is so mesmerizing

[@lyssalud6781]

39k decor can make you overlook the fact that you have come in contact with slimelung xD poor Mae

[@kamalotkam]

I think you missed pointing out the twist behind the molten salt reactor. Molten salt has a THC of .7, salt gas has a THC of .88. They gain energy by evaporating the salt.

[@FrancisJohnYT]

Good point, I skimped on that as I could not remember off the top of my head what the difference was. Still an awesome form of industrial management.

[@blacklight683]

Me who never got past fay 200:(*confused hunga bunga*)

[@berkgumus4047]

i was having fun in my poor base and now i have questions

[@PyrokineticFire1]

16:05 best sour gas boiler i've ever seen! finally, someone else letting gravity move liquid methane. never understood why everyone else uses pumps for it

[@michaelsotomayor5001]

Those petroleum boilers though if you notice again, when I clicked the time stamp, he built it in such a boastful manner lol.. you can not repair pipes or damaged liquid pump with that build.. 😂 crazy man.

[@hrldlpz41]

and yet here i am trying to overcome food shortage LOL

[@silaskjrsgaard5394]

i did consider my 8 lines of CO2 a lot, but now im just like, what

[@polarisbear7468]

I prefer coke

[@KimArvidsson]

At my playing speed not even 10 K cycles is enough to manage what either of these two did.

[@mirjanbouma]

Same here.

[@Frohoth]

"How many oil wells do you want?" "Yes"

[@AdamRotering]

Almost 500 hours on 1 map? Thats half my total playtime on this game......on one map...good lord

[@FrancisJohnYT]

I only own three games that I have more hours in than that.

[@pedrolmlkzk]

It is so weird being accustomed to strategy games, I always think "500 hours? What a noob" Because in strategy you need at least a 1000 to understand what is going on

[@AdamRotering]

@@pedrolmlkzk lol 11 months ago. Added 2000 hours since then. Couldn't agree more with you

[@JD_Mortal]

The "American Dream" map, looks like a microchip or electrical schematic design. I really wish this game had better thought put into the game. Having transformers for 1000w, 2000w, and one for the lower "high power grid". Not sure why there is even a 4000w transformer at all. Pipes and pumps need a "high pressure" version, which can fit 100K packets. (If only to cut down on processing 10x of the 10K lines.) It would also be nice to have an air pump that actually fills an entire packet on both the normal and high-pressure line. But, there would be a good use to use multiple low-pressure pumps on a line too. Circuits need to be built "inside of machines", or "inside circuit-boxes", just to reduce the need for massive circuit building with oversized circuit components. Additionally, a "sensor module", which just has to have desired sensors built within it. Both inside any machine, or inside any single circuit-box. (So you can throw all sensors into a box, where air lines, liquid lines, power wires and atmosphere all intersect. Each respectable sensor interacting with the appropriate item in that single location. Ribbon wires, or just four physical outputs for wires would work.) They need to reduce, or remove, the horrible "random motions", which takes more processing than just simple basic physics calculations. 8,000,000 complex math calculations can be done in the time it takes to "generate one random number", which is what makes all the gasses and liquids "vibrate", to simulate flow and motion. (Totally ignoring the fact that they don't actually flow at all. Often getting stuck, because of horrible random number generators. While simple, real physics, would ensure that they never get stuck and actually "flow".) Bonus for making hot things rise, where they end-up cooling and loosing pressure, expanding... While cold things fall, and compress, exchanging heat faster as they fall. Which is how we actually get a "sea-level" pressure of equilibrium. Love all of the creative hacks in these setups. Honestly, they also need plants to behave correctly... Plants suck-up CO2 in sunlight and spit out O2 and H2O (humidity/low-temp steam). At night, in darkness, plants reverse and they consume O2 and spit-out tons of CO2, which is why we get tired at night. Our oxygen intake is reduced by the rising CO2, which floods the air. The more CO2 you feed a plant, the faster it grows. Also, algae creates CO2, it doesn't absorb it. Algae absorbs O2, 24/7 but more in light. Mushrooms also absorb O2 and spit-out CO2, they don't "like CO2", that is mushroom waste! The worst offender of logic in the game, is the air and liquid bridges. Those just need to be simple bridges, just a span over other pipes. Intersections need to have "flow-controls", like real connections have. (Normally by design, like gravity, or by physical "one-way" flow gates, or automated "priority gates"... Bridges in the game are treated as mini-pumps, which don't actually pump and have counterintuitive "flow" and priorities that just don't make sense some times. They made it more complex than it needs to be, demanding hacks to get things to work as intended. Like the inability to mix wires, based on "down the line loads". We should be able to use 1000w wires, leading to devices that only draw 1000w or less, from a 2000w wire, which delivers 2x 1000w wires to two branches, without the need for a transformer. Power doesn't work like that. Transformers are for increased voltages, over the SAME SIZE WIRES, to reduce the amperage draw, so they can provide more wattage on the same thin wire.)

[@adamthethird4753]

"American Dream" had far too much recycling in it to earn that name.

[@eventprogenitor1873]

That 4525 base is nearly 21 full days....

[@adrianb3869]

Roland Ireland’s map is an exercise in using every mechanism, , option, and plant of the game in a map. Amazing

[@apgamer4053]

so i thought of this b4 but when you look at these bases on the power, pipe, and vent overlays then just look like circuit boards these are the people who should be making our cpus

[@lionllew8459]

"When you start your project by melting steel you've probably gone too far" ~ Francis John circa 2021 "we start melting the rocket walls by melting steel using a refinery" ~ Francis John circa 2023

[@Delerium04]

Wow so cool bases

[@captaincornhole7317]

The end game for ONI summed up: Dump as much CO2 into space to give it an atmosphere at the edge of the universe where it's expanding creating a continually expanding atmosphere due to constant CO2 generation. Filter out the carbon and create a breathable universe, then fly your machine planet to another machine planet to create one single world of all interstellar bodies with enough gravitational force to create a black hole, and with the excess power and CO2 you just rip a hole in the space time continuum and then do it all over again.

[@custume]

15:30 with that much CO2 power I think you can actually move the asteroid from orbit , hehehehehehehhehehe

[@telioty]

KSP mashup mod, or when the dlc is done

[@custume]

@@telioty heheheheheheheh

[@alexsiemers7898]

That’s not a power generator, that’s turning the whole asteroid into a rocket engine

[@custume]

@@alexsiemers7898 yeah, not far from it

[@phanCAbe]

That much super coolant in one place is called a "Murder".

[@lucasriley874]

When you have that much it's an "obscenity" of super coolant. Murder is for crows.

[@RedLeicesterCheese]

when is the next base loving video

[@captaincornhole7317]

Imagine the big brain builds these guys could do if this game was in 3D and you could build in every direction. Yourself included, I absolutely loved the rocket steam trap generator.

[@Zaughon]

22:12 Super poolant? :P

[@thriceandonce]

We've got a winner folks! This one is it! 😂

[@mirjanbouma]

I agree!

[@pedrolmlkzk]

69th like

[@Zaughon]

@@pedrolmlkzk nice

[@xrumstik]

My laptop started freezing just from watching the video about the last base.

[@THEBEYONDFOREVER]

My GAWD, the second base.....I have no words for it.

[@emrepalapi]

Please dont stop making these videos!

[@captaincornhole7317]

I wish I could give these glimpses into these minds more than just one like, so I'll drop some info in the comment. Press alt then 2 4 8 on your num pad to type the degree symbol. 4000°C is mental.

[@EnricoWack]

Space is having a hard time dealing 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@civiere]

At work, cant hear a thing... aah big ice biome... wait, what?!?! Oxygen... omfg.

[@yato3335]

My thoughts: that's a lot of ice, kinda odd. It has a different color though. Wait what, SOLID oxygen?!! I haven't even made liquid oxygen in my games 😔

[@MazeMan91]

I use a mini-sun for my beach chairs ... avg Lux sometimes around 220,000... Its a sun-burn chamber.

[@KerbalLauncher]

Thanks for showing my map, I love your videos! I run an i5 8600k, and I was getting about 10 frames on that base. Don't even ask about critter grooming.... Quick notes on the sour gas boiler. Check out Gamers Handbook's video on gas elevators, that's the inspiration I drew from on the design. It can certainly be made more compact. Some neat features is that this sour gas boiler is ON-DEMAND, meaning you can effectively control it with automation from smart batteries. I did this on an Oaisse playthrough, it starts and stops almost instantly. You can safely turn it off, and back on again without issues. The things you need to control are the natural gas generators and a liquid shutoff for the incoming crude oil/petroleum. The other cool thing is as a side-effect of the gas elevator, there's infinite gas storage, well until the liquid vents overpressure.

[@Pixelplanet5]

it really seems like that last base needs to steal the trick with putting the generators into space as well.

[@FrancisJohnYT]

That would deprive us of that beautiful gas pipe overlay!!

[@syn6109]

the second base took the factorio approach

[@sbeve1344]

OH YEAH

[@lyssalud6781]

how looking at excessive maps makes you reality-blind: -literaly cooling chlorine to liquid "energy free way"

[@FrancisJohnYT]

Maybe I'm exaggerating a bit :)

[@djn3kkid]

That Francis, is a super cool ammount of supercoolant :)

[@JaRyCu]

The Sun: "I produce about 4M tons of energy per second." America's Dream Map: "Hold my beer."

[@nikofrancisco9894]

I've been working pretty hard on optimizing my insulation melter and you mentioned getting steel to be a difficult part, just put some diamond tiles under a rocket silo with a vaccum between and then build a few steel temp shift plates with a little insulated bowl for it to land in. Doesn't take long at all, just mop it up and have dupes carry it somewhere.

[@davecannon1523]

"There is a sour gas boiler around here somewhere." Did you check under the couch cushions?

[@bobenskiwatontop]

have you ever gotten a hotel before in this series i wonder

[@JujuLand0]

If you put crude oil in a metal refinery and a liquid element sensor with liquid shutoffs, could you boil petroleum like this?

[@pedrolmlkzk]

Yes

[@iGourry]

The most surprising thing about the last map you showed was that someone played to 4500 cycles without ever solidifying their molten core! So much potential space just unused...

[@acheron16]

This entire episode should've been just called "Bruh"

[@isaacsanchezsancho2306]

HOLY MOLLY :D

[@tomaka121]

They used kiquid steel as coolant for refinery? lmao

[@CameraManBlaise]

holy shit!

[@sam11182]

Won't they get sunburns from the shine bugs?

[@banlee8357]

Hello Francis, I enjoy the "you have gone too far" base loving video very much, I hope you will make more video.

[@KerbalLauncher]

1:58 quick note on why the generators don't overheat, there are a couple of tempshift plates, and they are exchanging heat with the supercoolant running through the aquatuner. I was actually able to keep the temps below 75°C for a while, allowing the use of not gold and not steel, but then the petroleum heated up (because the incoming crude oil heated up) and it reached steady state at 110°C. What's nice is that it provides a constant source of heat for the petroleum boiler, so you don't need turbine heat deletion or tepidizers. EDIT: I tested this on another playthrough, the generators don't need any cooling at all.

[@szadun]

That first one, oxygen was included.

[@Davionious]

So what happens in a few thousand cycles when you overpressure space with all the CO2?

[@apgamer4053]

15:30 id to think of it as the astroide is the core and were makeing a gas planet 😂😂😂

[@predakanga]

Seeing how space handles all the CO2 at 15:34, I've got to wonder... could you create and maintain an Oxygen atmosphere?

[@TheGalifrey]

It has a wall at the back in that area, so yes with drywall.

[@pedrolmlkzk]

You'd need 100g of O2 per second per tile, so it is quite doable although extremely expensive

[@kaldo_kaldo]

I didn't know you could "win" ONI. I was wrong.

[@KerbalLauncher]

Just a btw, there's 2 TONs of viscogel in the food storage area. I accidentally left the bottle emptier on viscogel with the priority set to 1, and wondered where all my viscogel went, oops.

[@NatanStarke]

Im going kinda in the oposite direction now im trying to make super compact but automated and usefull system to avoid to much late game lag to keep the base forever. The rest of the space ill have ill use as playgrounds with ice or magma and recreation stuff

[@thriceandonce]

Ooooh, heck yes! I hope you send in the base when you're at something like "finished" point so we get to see it!

[@NatanStarke]

Thanks man youre kind kkk i got to oil just now i have my refinery and need now to refine petrol

[@pedrolmlkzk]

So How's that project going?

[@NatanStarke]

@@pedrolmlkzk i cleaned most of my first 2 bases but im not at home anymore :(

[@KyleSmith-qt9sg]

These bases and systems make me feel so stupid 🤣

[@michaelsotomayor5001]

that industrial brick looks delicious.. I need to do that. God Bless America's Dream lmao that's tony advanced regolith design btw

[@TheGalifrey]

Was gonna say the same thing as I used it on my Oasisse series, great design, I used a metal block with the supercoolant going through it to chill the Igneous down to a nice low temperature.

[@santibaigo]

Hi Francis why dont you do a Flatulent only challenge? Love your vids. Keep up with the good work

[@redcube9629]

What a torture of a challenge

[@Idontknowwhattocallmyself]

That would be weird lol

[@mohammadrifqisatriamas7311]

well brothgar already make that but every couple cycle the fart production increase 2 times

[@akselbering291]

I'm 300 hours into one of my own saves, current challenge is just how much power I can produce using only one heavy watt wire. For context, that would be 6 10kg/s sour gas boilers, 2 regolith meltors, another one running at 3/4'th capacity, that 55 kg/s of igneous rock feed to hatches and turned into coal. The biggest problem right now is cooling the amount of steam turbines down taking up too much power. Its peaking just high enough occasionally to cause overload damage. Oh and due to hatches not always being able to keep up do I have a lot of igneous rock, to the point where I'm slowly filling in the rest of the map with insulated tiles made of it.

[@bbjornsson]

When I first saw that carbon dioxide piping overlay I thought this was a shapez.io video

[@AlexanderBukh]

1st map - you can say that Oxygen is now Included!

[@yato3335]

I wish we could dump CO2 into space here on Earth 😆 Those bases are absolutely ludicrous. And I haven't even built a single rocket yet and I've been playing for a couple of dozen hours

[@selensewar]

2:55 -ESUNTHESUNTHESUNTHESUNTH-

[@wobblyjelly13]

I love your vids! Thank you! Question on rime. My map has no wolframite..so I can't make thermium. Any idea how to get some?

[@soulgatelewis8449]

That insulation melter is your best option. Unless you find an asteroid that has it.

[@Nirmata72]

guys how do i download roland and gamer43 bases please help me out

[@FrancisJohnYT]

Links are in the description, download the files, put them in the save game folder for ONI and then load them like a normal game. oxygennotincluded.fandom.com/wiki/Save_file_locations

[@hasonaa13]

Hey John How can I submit my base for tour evaluation for base lovin series?

[@yashjain2075]

Hi! Just started playing oni and your vids have been a great help. I was wondering if you could do a reverse video, wherein you look at some noobier bases (like mine) and see what rookie mistakes there are and how to fix them.

[@FrancisJohnYT]

Their was someone who used to do it, I think it was called "Dude fix my base" It ended up getting stale a bit quick, the fixes were always the same. Stabalize O2 and food, then it just became a normal game.

[@TheMule71]

Aaand apparently he's no longer back :(

[@FrancisJohnYT]

Sorry chief, still waiting on the update.