AAC 5.56 With 77gr Sierra MatchKing HPBT: Better Than The Military's MK262?

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Жыл бұрын

We take the AAC 5.56 load with 77gr Sierra MatchKing projectile out, chronograph it, and see how it performs in ballistic gel 🇺🇸
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@Mrgunsngear
@Mrgunsngear Жыл бұрын
This video but with a link to pick some up: mrgunsngear.org/3WgtP06
@warrenharrison9490
@warrenharrison9490 Жыл бұрын
That camo pattern on pants blends pretty good with the overturned crop field.
@warrenharrison9490
@warrenharrison9490 Жыл бұрын
Disappointed it's PSA, they refuse to ship anything to MA even though it's perfectly legal to ship ammo to my doorstep. 😔
@kenananaquitchichich4772
@kenananaquitchichich4772 Жыл бұрын
First, thank you for your videos and the quality content. Second, I recently purchased a couple boxes of Federal 50gr "varmint & predator" jhp. • I trust your channel. •I couldn't find much other than a water jug test. •It would be greatly appreciated to see it tested out of a 16in 1:8 into gel. Thank you for your time, Merry Christmas, -K
@randalljeffs7272
@randalljeffs7272 Жыл бұрын
I personally know Randy Brooks, who was the owner of Barnes at the time Bin Laden was taken. He told me that Bin Laden was taken with something loaded by Barnes. He did not specify to me if it was the 77 gr load, but I assume it was.
@warrenharrison9490
@warrenharrison9490 Жыл бұрын
@@randalljeffs7272 nice
@tonnywildweasel8138
@tonnywildweasel8138 Жыл бұрын
And remember : you can not make bad guys harmless by making good guys helpless.
@zogbot5103
@zogbot5103 Жыл бұрын
If everybody loved each other more the world would be a better place. - Tommy Wiseau
@chrisrayburn
@chrisrayburn Жыл бұрын
U said it. U said a mouth full. 100 percent correct.
@tenchu744
@tenchu744 Жыл бұрын
Bla bla bla. Thanks for a pointless comment stating the obvious 🙄.
@jaredevildog6343
@jaredevildog6343 Жыл бұрын
Great comment.
@Roboticdoughbull3k
@Roboticdoughbull3k 11 ай бұрын
Lol correct and I'll not be consenting to be being made helpless. Sand, meet line. Line, meet sand. Nough said.
@dragmorian6347
@dragmorian6347 Жыл бұрын
Dude, you’re my go-to guy when I have curiosities about products. Appreciate all you do, bud
@Mrgunsngear
@Mrgunsngear Жыл бұрын
thanks
@user-km5kj8xh1x
@user-km5kj8xh1x Жыл бұрын
@@Mrgunsngear would you prefer this over xm193 for tissue damage ?
@dustinpribble1546
@dustinpribble1546 Жыл бұрын
@@user-km5kj8xh1x depends on barrel length and distance to target..... 2 key factors when choosing ANY ammo
@Fister_of_Muppets
@Fister_of_Muppets 10 ай бұрын
I tested 6 different types of ammo today, inluding this AAC 77gr SMK, out of a 18" BA SPR barrel, 1:8 twist, gassed/tuned with a low-mass bolt carrier/buffer/spring setup, Riflespeed AGB, etc. Did 5-shot groups of each, four times each, in rotating order, for a total of 20 rounds of each time 6 different loads, so a total sample of 120 rounds. Relatively calm, 64 degrees. In order of most accurate to least accurate average of four 5-shot groups each: AAC 77gr SMK: 0.676" AAC 77gr Sierra TMK: 0.740" Hornady Frontier 75gr BTHP: 0.934" Hornady Black 75gr BTHP: 0.969" AAC Sabre 75gr Black Tip: 1.272" AAC 77gr OTM: 1.317" The sun was getting low and messing with my chrono, so I gave up on it after my first series of shots, but oddly the SMK, TMK, and 75gr Sabre Black Tips all came in right at the advertised 2700 fps. I guess PSA chronos these out of an 18" barrel? Whats more interesting is how consistent the SD was. What's the most disappointing is the most expensive loading in the group, the Hornady Black 75's... poorest groups, however YMMV for your barrel. If I negated one flier out of 20 of the more affordable Frontier 75gr BTHP's, those were very close to the TMK's in accuracy. I didnt have any Black Hills Mk262 Mod 1-C to try today, but from experience I think it would have matched or beaten the AAC 77gr SMK's... but the AAC is half the price, and that's an interesting conversation to have when we're talking about a 0.2" or less MOA difference.
@contractor556
@contractor556 7 ай бұрын
Excellent info! Thank you
@archipelago93
@archipelago93 Күн бұрын
Great info! I wonder what would make AAC’s in-house 77gr OTM bullet less accurate than the Sierra MatchKing bullet considering the rest of both cartridges are made and loaded by AAC (ie presumably the same brass, primers, powder charge, etc.)-?
@Fister_of_Muppets
@Fister_of_Muppets Күн бұрын
@archipelago93 the AAC 77gr OTM "house" offering are different bullets than the SMK's. That said, everyone's barrel can be different.
@brandonrupp5880
@brandonrupp5880 Жыл бұрын
I've ran 100 rounds through a 14.7 FN upper and I was getting 2400ish FPS and groups between .75 - 1.25". I had no issues scoring repeat hits on a 10" plate at 500 yards.
@shadyp-zv3uf
@shadyp-zv3uf Жыл бұрын
seems wrong at first because usually with my 14.5 I get around 2,850 with M193 or around 2,750 with M855 depending, and then you see these numbers and your like... 2,450 tops??? but then you hear about the accuracy and the bucking of wind etc. and realize that you sacrifice some velocity for great accuracy and also the energy upon impact is there 💯 Also hearing you using your FN 14.7 and hitting 8" plates at 500 with these..... yeah if I had an ammo can full I would definitely NOT be against loading the mags up and zeroing in for this basically MK262 but half the price if even available
@chrischero1871
@chrischero1871 Жыл бұрын
When you say 14.7” fn upper… do you ACTUALLY mean… psa??? 🧐 just wondering…
@seang1032
@seang1032 Жыл бұрын
Gotta say 500yds with a 14.7 is quite impressive. What optic are you running?
@rustyfjord402
@rustyfjord402 Жыл бұрын
is that with a 1:7 barrel twist?
@williamkillingsworth2619
@williamkillingsworth2619 Жыл бұрын
@@shadyp-zv3uf lower velocity should be expected with a 77 over a 55. it literally weights half as much more and has a better BC. Also a 55 grain is .243G1 vs 77grain 350G1 BC. At longer range, the 77 will carry more velocity than the 55. M855 is not accurate... shits like 2-3 Moa. At 500 yards the 55 grain bullet is around 1300fps, at 500 yards the 77 grain is around 1425. And 77's are generally, but not always more accurate. IMO 77>55!!!!
@Ephem13
@Ephem13 Жыл бұрын
I've been hand loading 77gr. Sierra MK for a long time. Without a doubt, one of the best bullets for a .223/5.56 I have ever used.
@skepticalhippo6376
@skepticalhippo6376 Жыл бұрын
What powder do you use?
@thor653
@thor653 Жыл бұрын
Great velocities with xbr8208 powder
@DaveSmith-cp5kj
@DaveSmith-cp5kj Жыл бұрын
@@skepticalhippo6376 Any powder that works for 55grn will work for 77grn. Your powder charge should be around low twenties once you finish working up.
@Ephem13
@Ephem13 Жыл бұрын
@SkepticalHippo R15 and Varget seem to be the most popular. I've used both and don't have an answer as to what is better, but I favor Varget simply because I have lots of Varget loads worked already.
@Ephem13
@Ephem13 Жыл бұрын
@Dave Smith ask 20 reloaders, get 20 answers as to best load lol.
@dylanvs9264
@dylanvs9264 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for testing with the different barrel lengths! This round seems perfect to stock up on for SHTF. Excellent results!
@peady64
@peady64 11 ай бұрын
AAC also makes a great 110 grain 300 BLK round. I've been using it for a few months now and it groups quite well. PSA has really stepped up their game.
@dennisbuckner1405
@dennisbuckner1405 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the great content and thank you for your service to the country! 🍻
@Fister_of_Muppets
@Fister_of_Muppets Жыл бұрын
I became a fan of the heavier 5.56 loads a few years back. The Hornady Frontier 75gr BTHP is pretty good as well for the $
@eloiseharbeson2483
@eloiseharbeson2483 Жыл бұрын
Not to mention that 75 grainers shoot just fine out of a 1/9" twist.
@steveguse4481
@steveguse4481 6 ай бұрын
If you can find it
@Fister_of_Muppets
@Fister_of_Muppets 6 ай бұрын
@steveguse4481 in LC brass, you can't find it anymore because the powers that be shut it down. I have 1400 rds of it left and I'm just sitting on it at this point.
@hardcore4476
@hardcore4476 Жыл бұрын
Looks like a fine defense round. Also accurate at longer distances. Win win!
@BuffRANGE
@BuffRANGE Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the hard work Mike!
@kirknesbitt101
@kirknesbitt101 Жыл бұрын
Hey man, I’ve been watching your channel for bit now. I really enjoy your content and the subjects you cover. Good on you man.
@ReticentIndignation
@ReticentIndignation Жыл бұрын
Buffman R.A.N.G.E. did it with 7.5" up to 22" and it was slightly lower velocity (70 fts lower than advertised for his conditions) vs IMI Razorcore and Magtech. Still an accurate loading, well worth the price, well in my opinion. Thanks for the video Mrgunsngear! Need to pick up more of this ammo.
@duckcomando7188
@duckcomando7188 Жыл бұрын
I never knew you could get that velocity and horse power out of a 77 grain 556. I am impressed some how.
@powskier
@powskier Жыл бұрын
You don't get any "horsepower " out of a bullet. Totally the wrong term.
@billydanzz
@billydanzz Жыл бұрын
@@powskier Great....another scolding from the 'slang terminology' hall monitors....
@craigotech
@craigotech Жыл бұрын
Black Hills 5.56 77gr red box averages 2809 out of my 18"
@francism9782
@francism9782 Жыл бұрын
@@billydanzz ikr? Everyone with a functioning neuron knew what the op meant but I guess some people just need to feel important at the expense of others.
@Adam-nv9zo
@Adam-nv9zo Жыл бұрын
@@powskier 🤓
@thomashammett6851
@thomashammett6851 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate you, Brother, and your channel. Good channel variety of subject matter that matters or is of value and interest. Keep up the good work. Best of luck with your channel. I wish you well, you and yours.
@nathanchampion3809
@nathanchampion3809 9 ай бұрын
Hey, whenever I try ammo I'm often looking at. I was shooting a 77 grain hollow point from my PSA 16 inch barrel at 200 yards. I was so impressed at how and how close and tight well my groups were. I've had best luck with a 69 grain but the 77 seems to make a big difference for me. I'll go out and do it again to double-check it but I was so impressed with it. My barrel is 1 and 1/7 twist and lighter bullets don't seem to do very well for me. I appreciate the delivery and presentation of your program. Thank you so much.
@cleetismcdougall5425
@cleetismcdougall5425 Жыл бұрын
This stuff is my go to 223/556 target ammo. Inexpensive and really accurate.
@blackdragon44
@blackdragon44 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the test Mike
@oldschoolprepper2273
@oldschoolprepper2273 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate all your hard work thank you
@mikes8948
@mikes8948 Жыл бұрын
PSA Nitride 16" mid-length, geissele SD-E, SOLGW BCG, Vortex Strike King 1x8...less than 1.25" MOA with 60 y/o eyes and AAC 77gr. HPBT Sierra MK. COULDN'T BE HAPPIER! THANK YOU MRGUNSNGEAR!!! 😁😁😁👍👍👍✌✌✌
@soundpainter2590
@soundpainter2590 Жыл бұрын
Great review. No extraneous fluff. On too many channels I litterly have to STOP & Read the description because the "Host" isn't even remotely addressing the subject I clicked on !! Thanks for keeping it straight & with a sense of humor !
@whenpigsdie6103
@whenpigsdie6103 Жыл бұрын
💯💯
@guardianminifarm8005
@guardianminifarm8005 Жыл бұрын
Looks great. I wouldn't hesitate to use this for home protection.
@BBEEAATTNNGGUU
@BBEEAATTNNGGUU Жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing this!
@Swampytheroot
@Swampytheroot Жыл бұрын
I bought a case of these and a case of their 75gr loads. Only shot 20 of each. Both very accurate from an 18" Scionics barrel
@charlesknowles7936
@charlesknowles7936 Жыл бұрын
You're right.. way more instances of issues due to less penetration, where as issues involving over penetration are rare as hens teeth. Professional training will put to rest any concern one might have regarding an "over penetrating" round. Especially in a rifle I want to be able to shoot through shit.
@andrew1498
@andrew1498 4 ай бұрын
My only concern is for home defense in densely populated areas. I don’t want to send a round through a bad guy and into my neighbors living room
@caseybrown5183
@caseybrown5183 Жыл бұрын
Probably the second or third most accurate bullet across a variety of rifles, and it would probably do well out of a short barrel for self defense. I found better loads for terminal effect on deer, but those weren’t scientific tests and when I hunted with 5.56 it was with 20” barrels.
@travisduarte4236
@travisduarte4236 Жыл бұрын
I've been using the imi match ammo with same bullet in a mk12 clone. And it has been amazing at matches from 200 to 600yrds.
@aastudios4607
@aastudios4607 9 ай бұрын
thanks for the solid content sir
@spcpitts
@spcpitts Жыл бұрын
Clear ballistics, please sponsor this man!
@MostlyPeacefulCombatVet
@MostlyPeacefulCombatVet Жыл бұрын
This is a very accurate round. I get surprisingly repeatable results using it. And I'm getting the results I was looking for in a factory load ammo..... specifically out of a 13.9" build I'm fine tuning, but has ran flawlessly in my other builds as well and really brings the potential out of my 11.5"... Nothing is going to perform like a meticulously perfected hand load, but they took this stuff seriously when they set out to manufacture it for us. You can't beat it for the price IMHO. If you're looking for an affordable, accurate, repeatable factory load (especially in your shorty's).....this is for you. Nice Review Mike. Appreciate ya 👍
@nospam3409
@nospam3409 Жыл бұрын
So glad to see you reviewing Palmetto States ammo I've been wondering whether Amo is any good. I've also been curious about thee stuff from Ammo Inc, especially there are 110 V-Max max 300 blockout in upload.
@grantham1149
@grantham1149 Жыл бұрын
I tested a box of this on Saturday. New build with an 18” Ballistic Advantage barrel. Got a 2” group at 100 yds. Only about 50 rd of 55g Fuji through the barrel. I was slightly disappointed but will test more.
@unapologetic7900
@unapologetic7900 Жыл бұрын
I'll be checking this out when it's back in stock. Until then, I have had VERY GOOD results with the IMI Razor Core 77gr (MK262 mod 1 clone). Very accurate as well, sub MOA at 100 yds.
@dallas4112
@dallas4112 Жыл бұрын
Set up email alerts for in stock on PSA website- restocked daily
@sebastiantran1266
@sebastiantran1266 Жыл бұрын
Keep in mind, PSA (AAC) is currently having 2 separate 77gr in their lineup. 77gr OTM (Open Tip Match), and 77gr that specifically loaded with the 77gr SMK (Sierra Match King). The SMK tends to be more expensive than the other OTM.
@sebastiantran1266
@sebastiantran1266 Жыл бұрын
@@fog8969 There’re couple vids of the PSA guy who shoots this round out to 800 yards. I guess as the 77gr SMK too popular and somewhat sacred, PSA wanted to make their own version at a more affordable price, which I really appreciate.
@fog8969
@fog8969 Жыл бұрын
@@sebastiantran1266 Thanks I saw the vid the PSA guy did but at that time didn't know they had 2 different rounds. Checking invoice now I see that the few boxes I bought to test are the SMK. Haven't yet shot/tested it but am planning to do so from a 10.3 and an 11.5 at intervals out to about 300 to collect drop data and fit it into Strelok. Thereafter will expand that to 500.
@fog8969
@fog8969 Жыл бұрын
@@sebastiantran1266 If the SMK suits me might pick up some of the other and compare drops and groups.
@sebastiantran1266
@sebastiantran1266 Жыл бұрын
@@fog8969 I just picked some of them up as well. Now waiting for the SMK back in stock to pick some more to test out on my KAC 14.5” together with the Mk262
@sebastiantran1266
@sebastiantran1266 Жыл бұрын
@@fog8969 Man, you’re lucky having Strelok. I’m late to the game now trying to find a good ballistic app that has the ACSS Raptor reticle. Any recommendation?
@brazzy1467
@brazzy1467 Жыл бұрын
I put together a 20" AR upper using a FN barrel 1/7 twist. I used the same aac 77gr OTM to deer hunt with this year I dropped the first two doe in they're tracks. The third and fourth doe I dropped them with head shot's between 100 & 150yds. This ammo is almost as accurate as my hand loads. Oh and it does a lot of damage when you hit deer in the boiler maker.
@TheInfantry98
@TheInfantry98 Жыл бұрын
20" that doesnt make any sense to me man.
@DevDog67
@DevDog67 Жыл бұрын
@@TheInfantry98 why not? It's the original barrel length for 5.56. 5.56 performs the best out of a 20" barrel. It's not unwieldy, you only really need shorter barrel lengths if you're clearing buildings or using a suppressor. For a longer distance build or to hunt with it's a great choice.
@brazzy1467
@brazzy1467 Жыл бұрын
@@TheInfantry98 why not I did it because I can. Makes perfect sense to me and that's all that matters. I'll be hunting elk and caribou with it next year.
@sheldoniusRex
@sheldoniusRex Жыл бұрын
Their tracks.
@DevDog67
@DevDog67 Жыл бұрын
@@brazzy1467 Elk with a 5.56? Hmmm that's pretty ballsy, not sure I'd be comfortable with doing that myself. Tbh not even sure about the legality of that. A lot of people were concerned about 6.5CM being not enough for Elk, although it's proven to be fine. But that has significantly more juice behind it than even the hottest 5.56 loads.
@GenX-Grampa
@GenX-Grampa Жыл бұрын
It’s one hell of a deer stopper also! Drops them in their tracks!
@JDsModernMartialArts
@JDsModernMartialArts Ай бұрын
Where do you shoot them?
@Balltilifall
@Balltilifall Жыл бұрын
I’m going to check them out for sure been looking for some good 77 gr
@adrian_smadrian
@adrian_smadrian Жыл бұрын
Sneeze break made me lol Great video!
@BB-ly3dh
@BB-ly3dh Жыл бұрын
My daughter just got her 1st deer w/ a 556 hornady 75gr core lokt. It dumped him instantly, double lung shot. It took him a minute to expire but he dropped instantly. No blood at all on the outside of the body, entrance or exit. Did good damage on the inside though. Good fighting rifle, does the job. but it isnt a 30 cal of course, 30 cal does the job without exception, in every way. Or any of the intermediate cartridges.
@TheMrMused
@TheMrMused Жыл бұрын
The Winchester 77gr BTHP Match rounds are comparable and my 20" 1:8 twist *loooooves* that round. That barrel also loves the 64gr .223 Deer Season XP round, but that's for another time. While the 77gr isn't my go-to PD load, my 16" 1:8 twist also does quite well with it.
@JMane3000
@JMane3000 6 ай бұрын
I run a 1:8 twist out of my 16 inch carbine also and I as well have great success with 75-77 grain loads, 62 grain Green tip is also super accurate
@Krangbot
@Krangbot Жыл бұрын
Been loving all the AAC ammo. Not gonna lie it's not the absolute cheapest, but it feels like the best bang for buck value and their XTP clones are pretty spicy and at the right price.
@rlm2010az
@rlm2010az Жыл бұрын
Great information
@TheWeatherbuff
@TheWeatherbuff Ай бұрын
These little things are hammers! I do have a bunch, and they're quite accurate at 30 yards... which is all I'm zeroed for, as I intend to use these for home defense. Thanks!!
@oneboyscout3653
@oneboyscout3653 8 ай бұрын
Great stuff
@Mitsurugi2424
@Mitsurugi2424 Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see this stuff compared to the IMI Razor Core. I'd also really like to see some short barreled gel tests with the gel around 50-75m out.
@michaelslisher4652
@michaelslisher4652 Жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for someone to do this since AAC released the round. IMI has been my goto round for my short barreled AR pistols for years. (Bought not so cheap but stacked it deep.). If the AAC can match IMI for accuracy and velocity, I'll be switching.
@gebeme11
@gebeme11 Жыл бұрын
AFAIK, it's the same bullet, at basically the same speed, so I'd expect the same performance(ish). As long as it cycles properly, I'm sure it's terminal effect is GTG. FWIW, I bought a small stack of IMI RC 77g before the chaos of the last few years and have it loaded as my first few important magazines.
@andrewm1153
@andrewm1153 Жыл бұрын
TFB has a good video of the razor core. It performed a little better than this round and had higher velocity
@actinganimal885
@actinganimal885 Жыл бұрын
Triathlon between IMI Razorcore AAC SMK BTHP Hornandy BTHP performance match
@BBEEAATTNNGGUU
@BBEEAATTNNGGUU Жыл бұрын
This vs IMI RC vs Frontier 75gr T2 would be awesome!!
@KelzCasa
@KelzCasa Жыл бұрын
I ‘sighted’ in with this at 100 yards on a 8” gong, then went straight to 400 yards with impacts on a 12” gong way more than I expected with a 3X and red dot, and just givin’r. 16” stainless Hanson midlength on an otherwise all Aero AR. 150 rounds with zero hiccups
@xxCOKERxxPWNxx
@xxCOKERxxPWNxx Жыл бұрын
This video is the reason my cart I had full of this stuff waiting for payday is NOW MIRACULOUSLY OOS
@David-sy1jl
@David-sy1jl 10 ай бұрын
Phenomenal performance
@robertjackson1407
@robertjackson1407 Жыл бұрын
Thank you 😊
@farmerwayne1404
@farmerwayne1404 Жыл бұрын
Very nice, Mike. Like to see the Sierra 65 gr SBT....
@bob_mosavo
@bob_mosavo Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Mike 😁
@Striker-pd3do
@Striker-pd3do Жыл бұрын
I love your content. Keep up the great work. Don't be afraid to keep us informed on important current events involving the 2nd amendment or corruption in the DOJ. Have a Merry Christmas and thank you for your service.
@ninjamang9878
@ninjamang9878 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the content! I been testing out the AAC's 125gr 300 Blackout, and it been good for the range. I picked up their 110gr V-MAX in hopes it runs good as well.
@cleetismcdougall5425
@cleetismcdougall5425 Жыл бұрын
The 300 subsonic rounds they make are pretty good too.
@breckfreeride
@breckfreeride Жыл бұрын
I love the aac subs... They've been good to me but the sig 220s are sub moa!
@jimmycagnee65
@jimmycagnee65 Жыл бұрын
Thanks bro.
@isellcatlitter
@isellcatlitter Жыл бұрын
it looks warm there, it's -10 below zero tonight with forecasts at -40 to -60 below wind chills for tomorrow with 10 to 20 inches of snow in Minnesota
@jasonhilliker2266
@jasonhilliker2266 Жыл бұрын
I use IMI 77gr 5.56 as my main stacking round, works great in all my ARs short to SPR, one round to rule them all
@chrisw2907
@chrisw2907 Жыл бұрын
Would love to see the prvi 75 gn 223 match series go up against this one because its very reasonably priced as well. But those look like pretty nasty wound tracks. Thanks for the video!!! Merry Christmas Everyone 🎅 🎄🎅 🎄🎅 🎄🎅 🎄🎅 🎄
@timunderbakke8756
@timunderbakke8756 Жыл бұрын
Definitely thinking I’ll pick up some and then compare the zero between that and my practice stuff. And of course it’s “not a feature” but that’s because of The Hague convention I imagine.
@Whitefeather83
@Whitefeather83 Жыл бұрын
Thank u sir!!!
@ColeDedhand
@ColeDedhand Жыл бұрын
I'm sitting here with my 11.5 hd gun with a Lancer full of 77gr Razor Core. I don't claim it's the "best" hd load, but I'm confident it will do the job. And I have a reasonable stack of it without breaking the bank.
@rascalmatt6713
@rascalmatt6713 Жыл бұрын
Why would you shoot 77 grain Razor Core out of an 11.5" SBR type AR ? It's long range ammo. You're wasting it. Run some Winchester extreme SP varmit ammo or Hornady SBR ammo for home defense with that 11.5". I say this as a former SOF guy. Don't waste your 77 grain on a home defense set up. PLEASE !!
@ColeDedhand
@ColeDedhand Жыл бұрын
@@rascalmatt6713 I'll take your word that you're an SOF guy but you seem uninformed about the performance of 77gr from short barrels. 77gr has good terminal performance at a wide range of velocities. This includes long range (where velocities have fallen to 2000fps or lower) and close range from short barrels. 77otm is not barrier blind and that is it's only real shortcoming. You use what you prefer of course, but if you are going to offer advice, please take the time to be informed.
@rascalmatt6713
@rascalmatt6713 Жыл бұрын
@@carolinausedmachinery Enough to know that at close range or "home defense" distances aka "CQB" distances, 55 and 62 grain is good enough to drop someone or blow their brain out of the back of their skull and have it slide across the floor. Most carry what they are issued,which at the time was M855 green tips. If you are a DMR or Designated Marksmen, you could potentially have 77 grain OTM's. On the civilian side, 77 grain OTM's are EXPENSIVE. And again, at close range inside a home, 55 and 62 grain will work just fine but if i'm concerned about "over penetration" and hitting someone in another room unintentionally, i'll roll with some kind of soft point HD or hunting round that fragments upon impact. A big part of being in SOF is thinking for yourself. "Unconventional Warfare". If you can do the basic research and think for yourself, you should be able to figure it out on your own. At the end of the day, run whatever you want. If you don't want to think about it or just want to follow a trend, the crowd, MrGunsngear etc. That's on you. I can assure you however, that i am much more informed on all of this stuff to a much higher degree than you or 99.9% of anyone else in this video thread. I have a ridiculous amount of ballistic data on my laptop. I have hit milk jugs at 1,000 yards in 3 shots or less using IMI 77 grain ammo out of my own SPR rifles. I have hit soda cans in 4 shots or less at 760 yards with the same set up. ALl in the windy mountains of Utah. I shoot multiple times a week and compete in PRS on the side. I don't comment in here to brag. That would be fucking pointless. I comment to help those of you out who can critically think and take good advice.
@mysteryman33333
@mysteryman33333 Жыл бұрын
@@rascalmatt6713 You absolutely have a point about typical home defense distances. The likelihood of having to blast someone beyond 50 yards is extremely low. I do keep Frontier 75gr OTMs in my 11.5" (I believe this load uses Hornady's 75gr TAP bullet), but in my 13.9" I use a 62gr hollow point load that Winchester made for the FBI several years ago. Despite saying .223 on the box, it's got a 5.56 powder load. Allegedly the bullet is barrier blind. Whatever the case may be, that bullet does gnarly stuff to whatever it hits. I bought 2K rounds of it back during the corona madness because it was relatively inexpensive.
@BasedAFPatriot
@BasedAFPatriot Жыл бұрын
Could you imagine just being able to call your buddy and ask how different rounds affect "bipedal threats" 😅. God bless our troops and veterans! They keep up safe _up range,_ then keep us entertained (& educated) when get they get home. 👌👍
@Mrgunsngear
@Mrgunsngear Жыл бұрын
🇺🇸
@gilligan2a43
@gilligan2a43 Жыл бұрын
I would love to see you run this load through the rifle you put together for the 2-3-2020 video titled “Ultimate AR-15 Designated Marksman DMR Rifle Build” both the gel and accuracy if you still have it.
@joquin4618
@joquin4618 Жыл бұрын
Agreed 👍
@ryanthomas2374
@ryanthomas2374 Жыл бұрын
Gaige Grosskreutz in kenosha shivers when he sees that 77gr slapping into that gel.
@timjohnson8390
@timjohnson8390 7 ай бұрын
I just bought 21 twenty round boxes at $12 a box nice to see these results
@seanwhite304
@seanwhite304 Жыл бұрын
BTHP have always been one of my favorites. I've been using 77g TMK as my go too for a good while . This AAC ammo look absolutely solid. Hopefully it's at decent price point and in STOCK. Black Hills 77g TMK , MK262 or any other awesome Black Hills loads are almost never in STOCK these days .
@StevenL00
@StevenL00 Жыл бұрын
PSA still has some the last I checked
@sumblakdude9
@sumblakdude9 Жыл бұрын
Just ordered 200 rounds a couple days ago and received today. At .85 cents per round shipped if it anywhere near the accuracy of the 75 Hornady frontier I shoot(1moa) it’s an easy swap.
@Swampytheroot
@Swampytheroot Жыл бұрын
Picked up a case of AAC 69gr OTM. 200 fps faster. Stunningly consistent and accurate at 500 yards from a 16" Palmetto State upper. Someone told me they're using FN barrels
@contractor556
@contractor556 9 ай бұрын
I grabbed the 62 black tip to try out, next (availability permitting) I do wanna try their 69g
@kennardjohnson7875
@kennardjohnson7875 Жыл бұрын
Defensive load means close range,and that in my mind you want velocity, and that is why 55 grain bullet is king and Winchester does good enough for me in accuracy in old CL 1x9 rock river on bench and bags. That shirt of yours, you should think about it double tap!
@michaelcheshareck3275
@michaelcheshareck3275 Жыл бұрын
I get 2850 FPS with Sig 5.56 77 grain out of my 18” Daniel Defense. Shoots 1/2 MOA 3 shot groups as well. I’m kind of shocked at the velocity but I confirmed on both a magnetospeed and Labradar, and I pulled a bullet and it was 77 grains on the dot.
@largelarry2126
@largelarry2126 Жыл бұрын
Good info that you.
@chipsandcase-o5738
@chipsandcase-o5738 Жыл бұрын
Good thing I bought a half-case of these two weeks before you dropped this 😂 it’s now OOS on their site.
@jamesp6282
@jamesp6282 Жыл бұрын
Iam happy you reviewed this product but Iam mad too the cat is out now and it’s sold out lol 😢😂great review
@leethomas556
@leethomas556 Жыл бұрын
I've just seen what it does to a dog. I was impressed
@maxstatic
@maxstatic Жыл бұрын
Stepping it up to an SD43? Very nice. Cheers. Edit: actually looks like a Deepsea not SD. Very very nice.
@762M80
@762M80 Жыл бұрын
My first thought reading the title was that you were testing ammo in a full auto Mini 14...can't brain yet today, no coffee yet this morning.
@Spushed
@Spushed Жыл бұрын
My magtech 77gr OTM is 2500 fps out of my 11.5" and 2700 fps through my 16". Makes me glad all my barrels are polygonal rifled for that extra bit of accuracy and velocity. Either your barrels are bad or it's an anemic load. Typically polygonal rifled barrels get an extra 30-50 fps compared to button and 5R rifling.
@carljefts215
@carljefts215 Жыл бұрын
Please keep the information coming
@txtme62
@txtme62 Жыл бұрын
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@charlesreediii5083
@charlesreediii5083 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video, great round. Will definitely continue to use these Sierra rounds. Semper Fi.
@Mrgunsngear
@Mrgunsngear Жыл бұрын
Semper Fi
@Scarredfan
@Scarredfan 3 ай бұрын
The 77gr otm is very preferred in the sbr of around the 11.5" barrel. Works extremely well ive been told and is preferable for special operators deployment of their sbr.
@raystephens2078
@raystephens2078 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. I have been frustrated trying to find 77 OTM for my carbine. It performs better than any other load but has been unobtainable. Hopefully, AAC will produce enough 😃
@fog8969
@fog8969 Жыл бұрын
LuckyGunner has Black Hills 77 gr. OTM MK262 Mod 1-C. Midway has IMI 77 gr HPBT Razor Core.
@raystephens2078
@raystephens2078 Жыл бұрын
@@fog8969 Found the AAC 77 grain SMK @ PSA. Shoots as well as the BH MK262, IMHO.
@fog8969
@fog8969 Жыл бұрын
@@raystephens2078 Yep. Got some. Haven't tried it yet. Just saw an interview with a Hornady ballistician on Vortex channel, said something negative about hollow point can't remember what. Will link it later.
@fog8969
@fog8969 Жыл бұрын
@@raystephens2078 Hornady ballistician comment at 45 minutes into this Vortex video m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/e4HMYqOuqcqmo6s about hollow point is interesting.
@walkerburt8814
@walkerburt8814 Жыл бұрын
Psa upped the speed of these loads for sure, I chonographed IMI 77 and AAC 77 and with a 10.3” barrel. I saw 2395 FPS with AAC AND 2390 FPS with IMI.
@HK-qj4im
@HK-qj4im 3 ай бұрын
I would never rely on an AR. MANY do. If I had to settle for an AR...This would be my load. I have used tons of 75 gr 5.56. Love that for accuracy. I'm sure this is awesome.
@pale_2111
@pale_2111 Жыл бұрын
I got a few different loads of 77gr OTM. From Winchester, SSA, PMC to Magtech. The best was SSA when they used SMK rounds. Magtech is my preferred load. Winchester is a bit under powered. PMC is the absolute worst 77gr ammo I've shot to date. Velocity put of an 18" barrel was 200-300fps below advertised velocity. I've killed hogs with 77gr ammo a few years ago. One hog I killed, probably weighed at least 80lbs, was hit behind the shoulder at a distance of 10 to 15 yards. Dropped like a rock. Haven't done any hunting lately, but for 5.56mm ammo, Magtech is my go to load. It preforms great and really close to advertised velocity. I would recommend buying them whenever you see then. I'll have to get a few boxes of AAC's load and do my own testing.
@SirSet
@SirSet Жыл бұрын
You should do another review like this but for their 77gr OTM. Wonder how it compares to the SMK.
@madjinxify
@madjinxify Жыл бұрын
Im a huge fan of the 77 TMK.
@Khlutchy
@Khlutchy Жыл бұрын
Looks like a solid alternative if people aren't able to pick up Black Hills.
@thatoneguy454c
@thatoneguy454c Жыл бұрын
Honestly I prefer the 75 grain hornady BTHP or the 75 grain speer "bonded soft point". Slightly higher velocity and almost no difference in accuracy. I am getting amazing results with CFE 223 and both of the bullets with a cci 450 primers. Getting about 2100 out of 7.5 inch, and just over 2700 out of a 16 inch.
@jacobgill4808
@jacobgill4808 Жыл бұрын
I have a standard deviation of 12 with the AAC match I was pleasantly surprised
@djjd3027
@djjd3027 Жыл бұрын
Would love to see this test with a 20" barrel. I have a theory that this round out of a 20" with a 1/7 twist is the ideal set-up for "stopping power". To get a round this heavy moving at that velocity one would think would be ideal for doing "damage".
@Kycirion
@Kycirion Жыл бұрын
That's not a theory. The same bullet going faster will deal more damage. Basic physics.
@djjd3027
@djjd3027 Жыл бұрын
@@Kycirion true. But we need to see it on paper. Or in this case gel
@capt.trumptracker3641
@capt.trumptracker3641 Жыл бұрын
Good videos
@416cubes4
@416cubes4 Жыл бұрын
If it’s cheaper than .70 cents a round awesome. If not, I’ll take my 6.5 Grendel 100 grain WPA. Love my grendel. Love
@mrshort2379
@mrshort2379 Жыл бұрын
Awesome Content Great review: I love watching anything to do with 5.56/223 especially ballistics, but truly what I would like to see is the heavier bullets like 80 grain up to the 112 grain 5.5/223 being shot a ballistic gel or long range targets. I have yet to see any content on the heavier bullets especially out of an AR platform. I figure if anybody could make it happen it would be @MrGuns&Gear
@CasZeal
@CasZeal Жыл бұрын
Seems on par with other Mk262 loadings. IIRC from the 18" Mk12 SPR it gets around 2750 FPS. You'd have to get a larger sample size and compare the Extreme Spread and Standard Deviations between loads to see witch one is more constant, as well as which is more accurate in your rifle.
@fog8969
@fog8969 Жыл бұрын
Sample sizes used by guntubers are always woefully small and inadequate, You really need sample sizes of at least 30 rounds of each to adequately estimate variation and statistically significant differences.
@robertbeach6965
@robertbeach6965 Жыл бұрын
I reload with it, great results.
@stevenkennedy4130
@stevenkennedy4130 Жыл бұрын
Wrong handed AR. Nice!
@pescad0
@pescad0 Жыл бұрын
Chrono'd some non-sierras today out of a 14.5 chrome lined 1:7. 2631 avg from 17 shots, SD of 15
@skytroop82abn
@skytroop82abn Жыл бұрын
Bless You
@MTMILITIAMAN7.62
@MTMILITIAMAN7.62 Жыл бұрын
I don't have any experience with the Sierra load, but as it is legal to hunt with .224 caliber centerfires in my state, I have done some hunting with the 75 gr Hornady OTM. When I got my Colt 6960, I was interested in deciding between a few different loads for home defense. As hunting licenses are cheaper than ballistics gel, I took a couple deer with three different load; the 5.56 loaded 75 gr Hornady OTM, and two different 62 gr loads, the 62 gr Barnes Vor Tex and the 62 gr Federal Fusion MSR. All deer were shot within 100 yards, typically about half that distance. No deer required more than one shot or went more than 60 yards after the shot. So all rounds worked fine when given enough velocity and proper shot placement. From a purely hunting standpoint, the Barnes TSX was the clear winner. It performed great and had good enough penetration that I even popped a nice doe through the onside shoulder in a quartering to shot. The Barnes was the only bullet tested that I would do this with. The 62 gr MSR had the best combination of linear penetration and tissue upset, and is what I went with for my home defense load. The 75 gr Hornady OTM performed fine, fragmenting reliably, but as with the SMKs in this test, seemed to veer off unpredictably. I couldn't deny the deer died quickly, so it was hard to call the bullet performance a failure, but it also was the least confidence inspiring. I think for standard infantry, police, or home defense work where most engagements are close, I would prefer a good bonded JSP, like the Fusion MSR, Gold Dot, or Federal FBI T3 Tactical Bonded. The Mk 262 or similar does seem to provide the best range for the 5.56, so it would be, and is, the obvious choice for DMR setups like the Mk 12.
@Milkman3572000
@Milkman3572000 Жыл бұрын
What length Barrel? I know its cool and all the FAD to use 16'' barrels. I'm neither cool or into fads.
@MTMILITIAMAN7.62
@MTMILITIAMAN7.62 Жыл бұрын
@Milkman3572000 16 inch chrome lined 7 twist with mid length gas system. I tend to think the 16 inch is the most practical for a civilian, but I do have a soft spot for 20 inch guns in general and the M16A4 specifically. I don't get into many gunfights inside an elevator and never approved of turning rifles into SMGs, so I don't see much use from the really short tubes.
@brentharrington9235
@brentharrington9235 Жыл бұрын
@@Milkman3572000 Team 20''! I can understand urban dwellers rocking shortys, but out in the wide open no thanks.
@mehicanbls1526
@mehicanbls1526 Жыл бұрын
@@brentharrington9235 i rock a 13.7 with 77s. Fucking deasly out to 550 at least. I was ringing steel nasty
@brentharrington9235
@brentharrington9235 Жыл бұрын
@@mehicanbls1526 you can also build a house with a 8oz hammer, but it doesn't make it the best tool for every job. Don't get me wrong, I bet your rifles quite capable and I'm not one to begrudge a mans choices. For me and my surroundings the 20'' offers what I feel is the best option. Merry Christmas!
@gunsandcommissions
@gunsandcommissions Жыл бұрын
Decent accuracy, but several people on arfcom have reported flattened primers (with subpar velocity, so no overpressure), dented brass, poorly machined extractor grooves, no sealant being used on primers or bullets, and no crimp on bullets.
@Brimwald
@Brimwald Жыл бұрын
Good to hear this talked about. Hopefully they can fix these issues.
@JGoodZX6R
@JGoodZX6R Жыл бұрын
I’d definitely prefer sealed primers and bullet, but that’s going to raise the cost. I’m sure PSA is going for the more affordable route with this. They’re working on the dented brass.
@fenomeno71
@fenomeno71 Жыл бұрын
No sealant/crimp because it was designed as a match round from a 20" barrel
@chuckfinley3152
@chuckfinley3152 Жыл бұрын
Psa is doing the lords work
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