@@gentnovic3540 If you were in England and somebody says that it means go away. Very confusing.
@equious84133 жыл бұрын
He got something to say, and you're gunna listen.
@aaronp98353 жыл бұрын
Persistence aura
@DerekMusic133 жыл бұрын
GOOD DAY!
@Elkadetodd3 жыл бұрын
First unique I found in D2R was eth bloodfists. 40 life on a hardcore character with nothing? Yes please! I wore them until they broke, and I'm sure they saved my life a couple times.
@MrLlamaSC3 жыл бұрын
definitely a great way to use them!
@aaronp98353 жыл бұрын
Blood fists are decent gloves
@akse3 жыл бұрын
@@aaronp9835 Definately the best HC start gloves since 2000. We used to have those back then on a mule and whenever making a new character we gave Bloodfists at level 1 (no level requrements on uniques back then).. Pretty awesome boost to HP at the beginning.
@TaraalTv3 жыл бұрын
Just to say, a big thanks for all the informative content. Really needed it after all these years afk!
@kkeithf3 жыл бұрын
Right
@irishsoxfan343 жыл бұрын
"Whatever it is, is what it will be." -Mr.Llama 2021
@shinuizabusa21803 жыл бұрын
It keeps going and going. Mr.Llama doing a lot of work here. Thank you and love from germany.
@gwahli96203 жыл бұрын
A non-obvious "caster" weapon are claws for blade fury assassins. Blade fury is a spell and does not eat durability but you want +damage instead of +skills on your weapon for it.
@FesterrotGaming2 жыл бұрын
in LOD usually the best weapon is eth death berserker axe, theres tons of info on it, not sure if its changed in d2R but the lod info has been around for you know like 20 years give or take
@scottnito26403 жыл бұрын
Appreciate all the content. I got back into d2r when it dropped for my switch hadn’t played d2 in over a decade and I never got into high tier stuff. When I was a teenager I ended up just starting new characters a lot and barely beat the whole game. Now I’m older it’s nice to have someone give the top tier guides and advice
@1ChristopherCampbell2 жыл бұрын
I was the same, pre-teen and teen I didn't understand any of the more complicated parts of the game and just started another character lol
@fathersondiecast65213 жыл бұрын
scored an Ohm rune in the pit today I was pretty jazzed up about it =)
@josephcredendino28993 жыл бұрын
Nice man!
@jackiehamilton31873 жыл бұрын
now give it away
@jestin108323 жыл бұрын
I hit space bar to skip the cutscene and sat with the video paused for way too long. Long day, found SoJ, ohm, and um. Best single day grind for me!
@garcipat3 жыл бұрын
Well you make it easy to believe that ZOD runes are dropping all over the place. I have never seen one outside of mods.
@nathanpapp4323 жыл бұрын
I had one drop in D2R and they arent expensive. You can get one for about a vex.
@honestinsincerity22703 жыл бұрын
"Whatever it is, is what it will be" -Mr Llama
@jamesworkshop91812 жыл бұрын
Charsi imbue quest also keeps the ethereal property so normal ethereal crystal/dimensional swords can be turned into a rare and then upped to a phase blade ethereal throwing weapons can also gain replenishing quantity from her
@mattbeese Жыл бұрын
found an eth death's fathom, pretty decent roll, thought it was worthless until folks in game told me it wasn't. traded it off for a jah \m/
@CaptivesFreeinChrist3 жыл бұрын
Supporting you in the content you make, doing great!
@user-rv5mp4jm6p3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the explanation ... Some days ago I found an Ethereal Ali Baba ... and I didn't know what to do with it ... all the specs are the same but as you mention it ... requirements are lowered so now I don't need too much dexterity and that's a lot of value for me (I was using charms to add additional dexterity points) ... and durability is not affected if both clicks (left and right) are configured as spell ... also it looks really really cool !!!
@SvenS23 жыл бұрын
A lot of rares can also be very valuable as ethereal, so long as they also have a repair mod on them.
@gwahli96203 жыл бұрын
God tier rares are the TRUE unique items in D2 after all. Thus they also have the potential to be actually worth putting in a Zod rune.
@SvenS23 жыл бұрын
@@gwahli9620 Absolutely! Even more so for crafted items
@ramongossler1726 Жыл бұрын
@@SvenS2will crafted eth items stay eth?
@djnorth20203 жыл бұрын
Just the best content for returning to the game of the century.
@sourcream91803 жыл бұрын
Eth rare phaseblade with gg rolls is one of the sweetest flexes you can do in the game, imo.
@ThomasPerezGhost3 жыл бұрын
15:56 if you have one takeaway from this video, make sure that it's this.
@gallion19873 жыл бұрын
Ugh idk if I can't take more... lol you already pointed out my entire inventory is garbage 😞
@dobbelmoral3 жыл бұрын
I like it! I get to clean up everything I was wondering if it was any good. Spoiler: It wasn't
@bencze4653 жыл бұрын
I missed one tiny detail, with the self repair / replenish, IIRC if it goes to 0 it stops repairing itself so it becomes junk. I haven't tried in some many years but that used to be the case. It may be kind of important for all those that pay a lot for their eth Titans perhaps?
@LE_Arasaka3 жыл бұрын
Quantity should still replenish as they did, items however that reach 0 durability WILL be broken.
@zanido90733 жыл бұрын
That was a bug, it is now fixed. Eth throwing weapons will continue to replenish even after hitting 0 quantity
@TengouX3 жыл бұрын
My single player smiter back in PlugY d2 spent who knows how long searching for an eth-buggable Exile base. In the end I couldn't find a vortex and settled for a 43 all resist gilded shield I finally found after a literal week. That was probably the most stressful cubing of my D2 history lol. If anything, I'm glad eth-bugging is no longer a thing in D2R.
@LucasMagriniRigo3 жыл бұрын
Ethereal Spirit Monarch used only for CTA buff can save you 10 Strength.
@kkeithf3 жыл бұрын
My man
@Hallowsaw3 жыл бұрын
Interesting but usually the characters using spirit for CTA are also using one for a regular shield as well so a touch pointless
@kkeithf3 жыл бұрын
@@Hallowsaw he means on swap
@zanido90733 жыл бұрын
@@Hallowsaw it's still useful if you're using a weapon that gives you +str on your mainhand
@spencerklepper66473 жыл бұрын
@@Hallowsaw the eth spirit swap is for very niche uses. The market for the item will be smaller, but there is a market for the item regardless Edit: also as stated in video, some people just want to flex eth items for aesthetics
@jkp32183 жыл бұрын
This is actually awesome to know! Thanks heaps @MrLlamaSC
@scorch42992 жыл бұрын
THERE'S NO "E" IN SHAKO, LLAMA! ITS NOT SHAKE-O!
@Zn0wkA3 жыл бұрын
After 6 years i just need this guide 🐱 ty for best vid buddy ❤️❤️
@LordShrub3 жыл бұрын
"Any ethereal that has an indestructible mod of its own will always be whatever it is" - MrLlama 2021
@khmergodhobbies3 жыл бұрын
so in other words, engrish.
@sam-of6lv3 жыл бұрын
Wait... what
@Tattersail3 жыл бұрын
it do be like that
@jdc97033 жыл бұрын
As long as you never let it hit zero durability - if it hitsthat, it will not repair from broken.
@zacharypower32923 жыл бұрын
Whatever it is, is what it'll be!
@SinVVV3 жыл бұрын
Btw guys, ethereal caster helms can be put to use on Act 3 mercs. I know it's niche but for example an eth griffon's on an Act 3 Light merc is gonna do genuine work. Just a tip.
@chrismoore13723 жыл бұрын
wheres the infinity though then
@ramongossler1726 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, but minus res doesnt work on mercs as far as I know
@joemazzola6763 жыл бұрын
Ebugged armor is no longer a thing right?
@embuurr3 жыл бұрын
Yeah they got rid of it
@jf34223 жыл бұрын
@@embuurr but how did he get a 1000 def kraken shell then?
@embuurr3 жыл бұрын
@@jf3422 good spot, I honestly have no idea. It’s been confirmed ebugging is removed and I’ve tried it myself without success.
@jf34223 жыл бұрын
@@embuurr yeah i tried too, but from what i understand, what we saw in the video is actually a character transfered from OG
@sandro55353 жыл бұрын
I liked using them. By the time they break I had usually found a better item anyway.
@blech713 жыл бұрын
I’ll usually use the armors and when they get low I swap them to a merc on another toon.
@sandro55353 жыл бұрын
@@blech71 Even better, back then I did not know mercs could be geared xD
@stylis6663 жыл бұрын
"Meh... my eth perfect ribcracker broke. Ah well. Oh! A Zod rune! That's even better!" ;p
@balintk.93733 жыл бұрын
I just realized yesterday that Blizz removed the ebug feature. What a shame. There are still a lot of annoying bugs yet they "fixed" something which was part of the game for a long time and made the end game loot hunting fun.
@MarianoGianni13 жыл бұрын
What's that bug?
@arrgghh15553 жыл бұрын
@@MarianoGianni1 If you used the cube recipe ( to add sockets to ethereal armour it would reroll the item and add the +50% ed again. So a perfect defence sacred armour 600 def would become 900 def when ethereal. If you were to ebug it it would get +50% again and become 1350 def. It also worked with helms and shields but they were never as popular.
@Dr.A3 жыл бұрын
what about shield for smiters? do they hit harder? are they worth the zod rune? like a herald of zakarum?
@MrMischelito3 жыл бұрын
"Whatever it is, is what it will be." - Mrllamasc, 5 October 2021
@Ellweas3 жыл бұрын
With the inability to bind "move-only" in D2R, will the random attacks going off from time to time be enough to destroy a caster eth weapon eventually ?
@MrLlamaSC3 жыл бұрын
it would take a long time but potentially possible
@brakpseudonimu2363 жыл бұрын
They'll be gone at rate around 1 durability per 25 attacks. Keep in mind there's a difference between random and by mistake.
@DrakonIL3 жыл бұрын
Just bind fireball or something to left click. Then you can do fireballs in between orb/blizzard/meteor real easy, and you don't have to worry about accidentally swinging an eth weapon.
@gengraded3 жыл бұрын
At least you can bind a move key now
@gabs_salem3 жыл бұрын
@@DrakonIL i usually bind glacial spike for those extra fast and furious
@kevinflo3 жыл бұрын
10:43 what does he mean when he says “upgraded”
@WhirlingSteel3 жыл бұрын
Had no idea caster items could safely be used since they don't use durability. Thank you! Very informative.
@equious84133 жыл бұрын
*swinging at things with his wand* SAY WHAT!?
@redchaos983 жыл бұрын
well shaco +2 all skill = +2 might aura should be great for summoner necro
@jincee57533 жыл бұрын
Are you sure about when the quantity hits 0 it will replenish? Im almost 1000% positive I screwed up my eth titans a long time ago (during LOD) . When was this changed ?
@hanson5443 жыл бұрын
I remember as well. I zeroed out my perfect eth titans and even as replenish quantity worked, the item stayed unusable. I watch myself very carefully now when I am using eth titan. I did trade the borked titans to someone for a Mal or something because he thought he could “fix” it lol
@CrownVic9772 жыл бұрын
@@hanson544 LMAO, reminds me of self proclaimed cellphone repair people that try to fix phones or replace screens, batteries and end up with dead phones lol
@Ph4ntom7473 жыл бұрын
These guides are so awesome
@BartOppeel3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, thank you. But how do you explain Titan's Revenge dropping Ethereal then ? It has Replenishes quantity on it by default, so following your logic, it could only drop non-Eth ?
@spencerklepper66473 жыл бұрын
Not how it work. Items with “replenishes quantity” can spawn normal and ethereal. Replenishes quantity is not the same thing as indestructible. The always eth / always not eth ONLY applies to uniques that spawn with the indestructible mod
@BartOppeel3 жыл бұрын
@@spencerklepper6647 Right ok, that makes more sense.
@fairhall0012 жыл бұрын
i had eth titans, 198% ed. They were god like.
@jeremiahvillarreal32303 жыл бұрын
Cold sorc here, trying to get into hell. Had a Vipermagi drop today, only to be ETH.
@rruhland3 жыл бұрын
I figure caster items like that are usually fine for a while. You don’t want to get hit anyway, so durability drops pretty slow. Yeah, it won’t last forever but it’ll get you for a while. I wouldn’t cry too hard if my first Shako/Vipermagi/Lidless or something like that dropped eth.
@SamielAC3 жыл бұрын
@MrLlamaSC an "ethereal" Phase blade with charges could be recharged? since Phase Blade is Indestructible.. thanks for this great video
@vega84723 жыл бұрын
Min 6:41: How can his Kraken Shell have 1057 def without +ED when the range of the armor is 417-523 and Eth gives (only) +50% def?
@YourLastWish3 жыл бұрын
Was ethereal patched at some point? I use to have a ethereal tyreals and people would offer me like 15hr for it.
@michaelpettersson49193 жыл бұрын
I have a javazon with a nice stack of ethereal self replenishing javelins. Sure they be outleveled soon enough but for now they are a nice set of random rare javelins. Ethereal leveling gear are nice. By thd time they break they are obsolete anyway. An etheral weapon could be a switch in weapon for bossfights.
@fairhall0012 жыл бұрын
eth titans are godlike.
@ramongossler1726 Жыл бұрын
@@fairhall001eth Titans are only used because of the lower requirements, the DMG on a Java only comes from the skill. Thats why magic 40ias +6javelin are so high priced.
@gabs_salem3 жыл бұрын
Nice shirt, looking good mister Dr. Diablo
@DonatoXlll3 жыл бұрын
"Whatever it is, is whatever it'll be" wow that's deep lol
@8JB408342 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. What's up with that kraken shell? It has over 1000 armor (ethereal). I thought the ebug feature was removed in d2 resurrected.
@verumterrae33222 жыл бұрын
I found some ethereal 50 war Travs and I’ve been wearing them for days. They are 35/40 currently. I get it they will eventually break but they aren’t worthless because I’m getting great use out of them ;)
@fatalradius3 жыл бұрын
Very informative! Thanks so much!
@zetaritari3 жыл бұрын
It blows my mind how you can have all these items alrdy i havent found even shako...
@stylis6663 жыл бұрын
Move your save files from D2 to the D2r folder :p That's how Llama got most of those items ;)
@WorldsFairlol3 жыл бұрын
Siiiiiick I was getting down because I found a ethereal oculus, and then boom at the end.
@evanwestphal30733 жыл бұрын
My first shako on my grail was eth. Can’t wait to get eth griffons too for my first one
@krischan673 жыл бұрын
BTW, there's a rumor that the personalization reward by Anya can repair ethereal items. That's not the case anymore, but I think it was possible in 1.09 or 1.10. The ethereal base armors with 1000 defense in the video are imported from old D2, correct? I haven't tried it yet, but I heard the eth cube bug (which added the eth bonus on armors a second time) has been fixed in D2R.
@Gilgamesh3six95 ай бұрын
200 hours later of watching this guy and I now know about 5% of the game and not much of what I'm doing
@Tixxow3 жыл бұрын
Hi MrLlama, can you upgrade an ethereal socket weapon normal to elite? and if you can, what runes do you need? or materials example: [ War Scythe Ethereal 4 Socket to Giant Thresher Ethereal?] thx :D
@zkhydro49853 жыл бұрын
19:13 so is this set by acct or for everyone, I'm confused now. Lol. Are you saying my first tyrel might roll ethereal meaning every tyrel might i get will be ethereal.
@peterulffers64903 жыл бұрын
Yay!!! It's the "flower" painting
@ruben27163 жыл бұрын
Very helpful. Thanks!
@tiborgrun69633 жыл бұрын
Are there ethereal weapons that you don't want for runewords, but would be awesome if it were rare with 450 % ed and selfrepair? So, kinda advanced question: Which eth weapon would you imbue and which roll sockets for runewords?
@NonEmployee3 жыл бұрын
I still personally feel like defense being practically useless is a MAJOR flaw they should've fixed with D2R, but that would've changed the game way too much.....still stupid design to me, though. Same feeling towards the weight system. What's the point of all these armors if most are basically useless and/or just hinder you?
@zanido90733 жыл бұрын
Defense is more useful than most people think. Try playing a sorc with 600 vs 4k defence and you will for sure feel the difference
@NonEmployee3 жыл бұрын
@Jmt1000 I'm aware of it changing the game negatively, that's why I mentioned it changing the game. I know they wanted it to be a fully faithful (for the most part) remaster, and I'm glad they did. Its just a slight nitpick for me.
@isthebeeflol3 жыл бұрын
Would a pair of rare gloves with +2 java skills 20%ias and 24% fire resist be worth much?
@zimmicks31703 жыл бұрын
Perhaps for a Javazon
@skykur3 жыл бұрын
that last point didnt make sense to me. So all ghost flames are eth? And crown of ages are never eth?
@Malkavon3 жыл бұрын
Correct. A unique with the 'Indestructible' mod will never have a chance to roll Ethereal. If you find one that is both Indestructible and Ethereal, it has both mods hardcoded (like Ghostflame). Note this is the same for normal items, namely Phase Blades (Elite Crystal Sword) - they are innately indestructible, and as such can not ever roll Ethereal. You can only get an Ethereal Phase Blade by upping an Ethereal Rare/Unique Crystal/Dimensional Blade into a Phase Blade.
@punkypinko29653 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the info! So, are you glad that Blizzard has failed to release Diablo 4? Instead, they re-released Diablo 2. Now all the D2 channels are probably getting a good boost in views lol.
@sethyboy03 жыл бұрын
Worth noting that the 50% extra damage/defence is on the base, not as a %ED mod. That means it multiplies with %ED, which is way stronger than just adding another 50% ED.
@pngo20173 жыл бұрын
Man Diablo 2 was way ahead of its time. There are so much depth in the itemization.
@DrGreenTreez3 жыл бұрын
Found an eth shaft stop on ps4 and ethkraken shell with almost 800 def that 8m making a fort in
@FuzzyBrunty3 жыл бұрын
This actually helped me a lot.
@joujimiichi12 жыл бұрын
So awful at explaining things sometimes: “whatever it is, is what it will be.” You said this like 6 times… what does that even mean?
@CaseyHurlburt-y8uАй бұрын
He does do a terrible job, in almost every video.. chooses the worst things to gloss over.
@michaelflowers19963 жыл бұрын
Can I just say, what an intro!
@lavieenrose79253 жыл бұрын
Can you upgrade eth bases in the cube just like you would a regular base item (i.e. upgrading eth exceptional polearm to its eth elite version)? Also, once you upgrade items, can you then use the cube recipe to socket it?
@gabricas62303 жыл бұрын
How did you get a kraken shell with 1057 Def (at 6:40 )? I thought max def was 523 for non etheral so 523x1.5=784.5 for etheral (not supperior). What did I miss ? I though the Ethereal Cube bugg was fixed in D2R, wasn't it ?
@mattheworr70593 жыл бұрын
At what level would you start worrying about throwing away great items for alternate characters?
@SuperNugget923 жыл бұрын
whats up with the hr count? why is a vex 5 hr? isnt it itself a hr?
@Wendigo19863 жыл бұрын
Please a video about high runes in battlenet , no players 8 option , no fixed lk maps, what's the best way to farm them without these single player strats? Thank you :)
@zanido90733 жыл бұрын
cows.
@Wendigo19863 жыл бұрын
@@zanido9073 is it though ? I've read something about arcane sanctuary and CS but cs is not optimal for me as a javazon without infinity I guess, can't kill the li ghosts very efficient
@zanido90733 жыл бұрын
@@Wendigo1986 on p1 ber from cows is 1/720k. ber from storm casters is 1/356k, and 1/1000k from other monsters. Now think about the monster density of cow level vs chaos sanctuary. Cows is definitely better. Spectres in arcane also have that 1/356k drop rate, but their density is even lower than chaos sanctuary.
@Wendigo19863 жыл бұрын
@@zanido9073 ty Buddy . Sounds reasonable 😊🤙
@magusfire31 Жыл бұрын
One thing I never totally got. So if an item has magic find and/or gold find and put on a mercenary, does that affect my character any?
@maestrodal3 жыл бұрын
So... can you found a phaseblade eth then? or it is impossible?
@Malkavon3 жыл бұрын
Phase Blades can't roll Ethereal, but you can upgrade an Ethereal Rare or Unique Crystal Sword or Dimensional Blade into a Phase Blade and it will remain Ethereal.
@GP-qb9hi3 жыл бұрын
Whaat, how do you up an eth dimensional blade?
@mundolincurve75773 жыл бұрын
can you zod a 0 durability ethereal item and use it later ? I'd rather ask than losing a zod
@mnew45823 жыл бұрын
I found a ring with Teleport charges, lvl 14 requirement with additional cold resist. What is it worth?
@stylis6663 жыл бұрын
lvl 14? Don't you mean lvl 24? It's probably worth 35k gold. Could be ~18k. If it was rare it might have been worth something for pvp with good additional mods. I'd just keep it for quicker chaos runs or playthroughs. It's nice to have tele on something other than weapon swap and cold res is often a res that is lacking on starting chars so that's a nice bonus, but magic rings are not really tradable.
@jombress2 жыл бұрын
E-bug fixed... Didnt comes more deffense to eth armors, when socketing in the cube..
@stpnpl3 жыл бұрын
MrLlamaSC is a high level expert in D2.
@flamerollerx013 жыл бұрын
Wait wouldn't templar's might add two skills to a might, or blessed aim merc?
@kmlau19863 жыл бұрын
How did you get an EBugged Kraken Shell on D2R?
@Marol21373 жыл бұрын
You should make a separate playlist with videos like this for D2R for better visibility
@Lamonte4243 жыл бұрын
how much is the eth ribcracker in hr ??? this item is insane
@haldorasgirson94633 жыл бұрын
Cool Vid, Thanks for the info.
@MassMoneyInvesting3 жыл бұрын
you will hit 200k subs soon keep putting out content.
@javitopvp3 жыл бұрын
What do you think about an ethereal Zakarum perfect updated, is Zod worth it?
@sylvesterdorseyiii97643 жыл бұрын
I just got an ethereal oculus. What in the world do I do with it?
@ArksCovenant3 жыл бұрын
In case you may or may not have touched on this, because I was listening to this while doing other things, can ethereal items drop with sockets or do you have to cube ethereal items to roll sockets into them?
@tiagopassarela3 жыл бұрын
You mentioned "upgrading items" a couple of times but how do I do that?
@LEK3 жыл бұрын
It depends wether you wanna upgrade a normal, rare or unique item. U usually put the item with 2 specific runes and a specific perfect gem into cube to upgrade it. With this u can for example turn a ceremonial javelin base type into a matriarchal javelin base type which has higher base damage. The same works for armors which increases the defense. You can read it up in the d2 wiki
@EssDubz3 жыл бұрын
Looking at Obedience - Can you make a more in depth guide on what items are used for (i.e. what their purpose is when it isn't obvious)? Lots of videos talk about how great spirit or shako are and why, like obviously that should be easy to figure out, but weapon and damage calcs are so complicated it isn't easy to tell and it's more complicated when it comes to mercenaries. So Obedience looks like such an awesome weapon for basically zero cost, those runes are so cheap. Yet I don't know anyone that uses it. My guess is maybe for a Merc for a fire character before they get infinity? Polearms in particular I'm not sure how they are tiered. Like I know infinity is goat for elemental dealers and insight is great budget for mama Regen obviously, but how do Obedience Reapers toll Pride And more factor in. When would you want to use obedience instead of these other options? Is it literally just a budget option before getting something better on a character that doesn't need insight Merc?
@AngelicLegion3 жыл бұрын
Titans can roll as ethereal or non ethereal, but both have replenishes quantity.
@sten0ne3 жыл бұрын
does ethereal roll before unique/set/rare/magical???
@SadderCatLin3 жыл бұрын
How do you socket a unique item? (not sure if it gets answered as of typing)
@EdgarStyles12343 жыл бұрын
Do socket quest in act 5
@cherriagana3 жыл бұрын
I found a circlet with +2 to pally skills, some all resistances and teleport charges!!, and then I saw it was ethereal xD
@matthewgagnon94263 жыл бұрын
That sounds like it'd be worth socketing and zodding.
@cherriagana3 жыл бұрын
@@matthewgagnon9426 then you still can't recharge the charges tho :(
@StuartHollingsead8 ай бұрын
How long until someone somewhere cracks the code for PlugY mod on D2R?
@reeven17213 жыл бұрын
You should talk about Iron Golems :D
@ermagherd1204 Жыл бұрын
I’m new to Diablo. Played the D4 open beta weekend. Loved it. Bought D2R. Loving it. Got a level 75 Druid sloshing through Hell lol but jus found out last night that if I lose a bunch of durability on a piece of ethereal gear then equip it on a hired merc it fixes itself then I equip it back on myself & it stays fixed at full durability again. I assume this being an old game this is known???