AVOID THIS NONSENSE FROM ENGLISH WITH LUCY, LINGUAMARINA/LINGUATRIP/ LINGUATRIPTV, RACHEL'S ENGLISH

[@tr3buh]

maybe British people don't use these words so often since the "English with Lucy" is British

[@freedomofspeech766]

I'm British and I can assure you they are used by the second ... by every single British person.

[@ekaterinalokshina2043]

Very is not used by the British? 😂 It's totally ridiculous.

[@mike-j2f]

@@ekaterinalokshina2043 He said maybe so he probably doesn't know but i as a native use very

[@freedomofspeech766]

If you want to report to someone what someone else SAID, you need to use 'SAID'. Johnny: I would love to be rich. Jenny ( who he SAID this to later tells her friend) Johnny SAID he would love to be rich.

[@siyawashnishat]

I live in the uk I hear the word very 100 times a day.

[@piersonjeanmarc]

Lucy is advocating for a more refined use of English - and it's perfectly understandable in the context of her videos. Of course, unless someone is an absolute beginner (and therefore not even able to understand what Lucy is saying in English) everyone knows that 'very' is a most basic word in English. Attacking another channel is not the best way to win over esteem and appreciation.

[@beatadebski]

Mistakes do not refine the language and there is no one attacking Lucy here. Taking grammar corrections personally will not help anyone to learn better English.

[@piersonjeanmarc]

@@beatadebski No one is attacking Lucy? Ah?

[@beatadebski]

@@piersonjeanmarc There is a fundamental difference between attacking someone and pointing out mistakes which the other party does not want to own.

[@Cwyntz]

@@beatadebski They are living in a fantasy land where everything has to be supportive and tolerating, even when it's bluntly ridiculous.

[@MsMinoula]

Sure it depends what your point of learning is.

[@spolch9482]

I think Lucy meant it as a way to say that people should aspire to have a more diverse and advanced vocabulary.

[@Cristian-de9iu]

​@3BK235Y Sure because that's how media works. Headlines are ALWAYS true and not clickbait. I would point out the lack of attention span to check the full video and read through lines

[@emil6568]

Do you think general english-speaking audience cares about that? It doesn't

[@duendedelsur8110]

it doesn't sound natural

[@Luca-uc2ro]

How the fuck am i gonna use this vocabulary if nobody can understand it

[@thetrickster4526]

Of course she means that way, her regular viewer knows that.

[@hosseinnavaei1967]

As an English teacher, I greatly value your professional correction of the errors.

[@TaTa-tb2ip]

They make mistakes themselves in their videos but never correct them. They ignore the questions and comments of the viewers, who want to clarify the meaning of their "correction". So a lot of doubts as for their professionalism.

[@ClementePablo-f8f]

@3BK235Y Yes, like teaching!! 😮

[@esl-basedstudio5102]

​@@TaTa-tb2ip Can you provide examples?

[@dewdrop5124]

I get where this video is coming from, but telling people to stick to basic words doesn't sit right with me. Lucy's videos are particularly beneficial for C1 Advanced students and language learners. By offering alternatives to commonly used words, she helps elevate one's English proficiency. For anyone aiming to master English, especially at advanced levels, using a richer vocabulary is key to scoring well. Dumbing down language might actually hold learners back from reaching the proficiency they're striving for.

[@amanda.2416]

Actually, proficiency is about how well one deals with a language. Knowing a lot of words is great, but it only reflects a broader vocabulary. You have to be excellent at both, plus understanding contexts of language usage in order to obtain a certificate. So just learning a richer vocabulary doesn't mean someone will master English if that person can't grasp the contexts of usage of those words.

[@dewdrop5124]

@amanda.2416 Exactly, you need to have a thorough understanding of both the words and their usage. However, what I’m trying to say is that encouraging viewers (whose native language isn’t English) to stick to basic words won’t do them any good.

[@TheSummmer69]

Even though I could say, ‘Your dog is admirable,’ it wouldn’t convey the same meaning as, ‘Your dog is cute.’ When I express myself, it’s not just about using words that sound good-it’s about choosing words that truly reflect my feelings and thoughts. I’ve only been learning English for a year, but I can already get the difference.

[@JulesDallen]

Admirable is a little too much for animals I guess, 😅 I get what you mean though.

[@HesamVazifehdan]

Your English is very good for someone who’s been studying the language for only a year. Did you start from scratch or did you have some prior knowledge of it before starting? Most people don’t even get the hang of the language and can’t connect sentences like yours until they’re at least two years in, unless they study for five or six hours every day for a year, which is what you must have done.

[@TheSummmer69]

@@HesamVazifehdan I began from almost nothing, with only minimal reading proficiency. But English wasn’t my first foreign language.

[@RewordEnglish]

It's also a good challenge for yourself to use words that you aren't normally comfortable using.

[@HesamVazifehdan]

@@TheSummmer69 That’s very good. I learned a lot in one year as well but I was on try hard mode, so I don’t know if that counts.

[@kiebr8766]

I have no issues with English With Lucy. At least, I could gain knowledge of new advanced words and phrases.

[@adapienkowska2605]

It seems to be a joke. I don't watch her regularly, but that it is a joke seems obvious.

[@marques1034]

She says “ stop saying these three THINGS” 😂😂😂

[@maya.7057]

The word "thing" has a lot of meanings. It can substitute a lot of words. in context So, her sentense is correct, let alone she's a native speaker.

[@JesusCaceres-xn4cf]

Yes 😂😂😂😂

[@goldrichig2885]

I think the original commenter meant luci said in the video not use the word "thing" but she ended up using it her next sentence​@@maya.7057

[@bobthebuilder8788]

@@maya.7057 That's not the point.

[@maya.7057]

@@bobthebuilder8788 For me it is.

[@ANV1832]

I follow Lucy as well. What you pointed out,though,in your video is right. She said: never ever use a word THING. That's,of course,impossible. She's just exaggerating but imagine how confused some of her followers,most of them non-native speakers like myself,may get when hearing such an advice

[@beatadebski]

Exactly! When you're a foreign language teacher you must always be clear and the jokes must remain within the domain accessible to students.

[@liliyaredkina8973]

We are not. Most of us can read social cues. I can't believe some ppl think she's being serious😀

[@yogibear5321]

Marina's self-confidence is painfully grotesque in the context of her ignorance...

[@PeterMoss-kn2wk]

"Ignorance is bliss."

[@fredylopez2477]

All she cares about is making money or profits, she doesn't give a damn about teaching correctly and with responsability, as simple as that.

[@maya.7057]

That's true!

[@AlexandreLuiz-ph8ns]

​@@fredylopez2477nicely put🎉

[@tobiasschlauderer4993]

ahaha grotesque

[@lorenzograssi3637]

I'm sure Lucy was being sarcastic when she said not to use the words "said" "very" and "thing" anymore... she just meant they're overused by most non-native speakers, and it would be better to also know some alternatives. I really appreciate you guys' videos, and I think they're super valuable, but I don't understand what you have against her

[@Thomas-qf6bf]

Lucy is not a professional teacher, that’s why she makes up stuff that doesn’t exist.

[@sonic-b1n]

​@@Thomas-qf6bfLucy is a professional English teacher mate💀💀.She has CELTA qualification and she's a Cambridge University graduate.

[@Thomas-qf6bf]

@ If so, she should cut the crap then. She sounds VERY unprofessional, mate😉

[@dannyjorde2677]

Nope. There's no place for sarcasm here. These are lessons, and students must pay attention to the information the teacher gives, they're not supposed to guess if the teacher is being sarcastic or not.

[@fredylopez2477]

​@@dannyjorde2677 You've got a point there pal and I agree with that and I also agree with the other comment too, she should cut the crap 'cause she's supposed to be a serious teacher who's teaching how to speak correct English, as simple as that.

[@AgungSaputra-m1j]

Language is a communication tool so far it can be caught up each others it is not a problem. The problem is if easy things are made to be complicated. ❤

[@davidostrowski679]

At least in British English, I may potentially say 'I met a cat'. This has a specific nuance in that I may have a special affinity with the cat, I absolutely wasn't expecting to meet the cat, or I interact with the cat for a longer period than expected. But yes, 99% of time, I would 'see a cat'. Additionally, when I went to the adoption centre, I met my cat, because the meeting was prearranged. I didn't randomly come across the cat.

[@fredylopez2477]

No matter all that stuff you said (texted) pal you never meet an animal, YOU SEE AN ANIMAL, IN ANY CASE YOU GET TO RUN INTO OR COME ACROSS AN ANIMAL. BUT NEVER MEET AN ANIMAL. I would say; I wanna SEE the cat that I'm gonna adopt.

[@JuanMoreno-hq1by]

It's all about context, I guess.

[@maciejzmuda1339]

I would say: never say never. It seems to be the double-edged sword. 😊 ​@@fredylopez2477

[@fredylopez2477]

​@@JuanMoreno-hq1by You're right pal, BUT context has its logic or coherence.

[@JuanMoreno-hq1by]

@@fredylopez2477 Cohesion and coherence are important, but I think there’s so much more to it. For example, take the rule about not using stative verbs in the present continuous. Then along comes McDonald’s with its famous slogan, “I’m loving it.” This just goes to show how context plays a huge role in how language changes over time. I think language isn’t super strict or prescriptive. It evolves and adapts depending on how people actually use it.

[@rinisix4243]

This video was spot on . Never say : very. Oh my God. I can’t live without saying ‘very’ , ‘said’ , ‘thing’. It’s perfectly OK English.

[@BakajaHu]

"We admire people." My dictionary says: we stopped to admire the view. In dictionaris you can read: If you admire someone or something, admire somebody/something, to feel respect and approval for (someone or something).

[@lordbyron9950]

True

[@UlrichJaekel]

Think this is the American way we cherish: "Why should you learn words native speakers don't know?" Straight to the point, no fuzz with sounding posh or whatsoever. Thank you!

[@freedomofspeech766]

I'm British and I've been teaching English for about 38 years and the Golden rule is never to BOG your students down with vocabulary that is RARELY used. The aim is to teach them STANDARD English ... that is Everyday English used by natives. They should be taught just to recognise the 'fancy' words by the context they're in...... If I invent a word, most people would understand the meaning of the unknown word. Example: 'it's a bahapui day outside. The sun is shining and the sky is blue. Most people would undersand the unknown word by the context. We would instantly know that it means 'lovely' or 'beautiful' (the two most commonly used) or even 'glorious' .

[@7272goldy]

Some people aspire to have a beautifully imaginative speech, and this requires a large vocabulary. In my native language I can convey all the nuances of my feelings and thoughts in a very colourful way. I wish I could express my thoughts as vividly in English as in Russian, but alas. 😅 Best wishes from Mariupol!

[@UlrichJaekel]

I guess this applies to everybody not growing up bilingually. For me, communicatin in English still feels a bit like driving a car with a loose stiring wheel. To stay on the save side, I revert to the vocabulary I am very familiar with. I think the point the vid was making has also got to do with cultural undertone. Like for example, saying "That's not bad" actually means "that's good" whereas " That was quite good" has more of "could've been better" meaning. At least in British English these sort of things are very hard to cover for me. Best wishes from Vienna

[@freedomofspeech766]

@@7272goldy it sounds ridiculous a non native English language speaker trying to use a fancy word in the wrong context. Better to keep it simple

[@CZRkg]

You, Brits, give the American language bad influence by injecting parasitic words like bloody. Unfortunately, the awfulness of English doesn't stop there.

[@kosamndlovu2629]

I've been searching for the perfect example of "taking someone out of context," and I'm so glad to have finally found one.

[@fredylopez2477]

Well, I guess (think) she does that in order to gain more subscribers BUT that ain't the right way from my point of view. I'm afraid Lucy's starting to do things that make her lose credibility no matter that she's a native English speaker or a good teacher of the language. I think that happens to her for hanging out too much with Linguamarina and company 😄😊.

[@valeria-y2u]

EXCELLENT COMMENT!!! I completely agree with you.

[@fredylopez2477]

​​@@valeria-y2u Thanks very much for that compliment @valeria-y2u. I'm just expressing my point of view NOT my opinion. 👍.

[@mike-j2f]

I'm a native speaker and i agree

[@aiquesono]

Linguamarina is so annoying

[@PoAngielsku-t8p]

To be honest, I would never teach someone "chuffed to bits" (British English slang for "very pleased".).

[@luvaz3327]

Oh, come on! Even I can tell Lucy used this approach to make a point through humor and a bit of controversy. Obviously, she wasn’t being literal. I think this guy is doing the same-just using Lucy's fan base to raise awareness. And that’s fine! No worries; we love Lucy and understand her style. By the way, the full video is a gem. I really appreciate the accuracy of his corrections after the first set. Awesome teacher. Thank you so much!

[@beatadebski]

If yuo're a good teacher you must use accuracy - humor is best conveyed in other ways than by bringing more confusion.

[@Ismael-c8v]

​@beatadebski, except that her target audience is either intermediate or advanced learners. Therefore, they should already be able to make the difference between her humor and the actual lesson

[@beatadebski]

@Ismael-c8v Just looking at the comments here you can tell the effect Lucy's sarcasm and wrong explanations has on the learners. I follow students' needs, not what people think "should" be.

[@matteoisacchi5311]

You are taking everything out of context! I stopped watching after Lucy! She’s giving advice to people who are going to do the C2 proficiency level Cambridge exam. Examiners will want you to show off your knowledge and extensive vocabulary, hence instead of saying very small, you’d say minute or tiny…. Instead of very hot weather, you’d say torrid or scorching… I’m not a teacher of course, just studying for my C2 exam….. besides I wouldn’t want to get advice from American teachers when trying to pass a Cambridge exam…. I love English with Lucy

[@lamaxx8562]

You are absolutely right! Lucy is a brilliant teacher, that's why she has 11M subscribers)

[@ralucaolaru2289]

A good teacher doesn't say you should stop saying something which is correct. She should have said that it's advisable to use synonyms for higher levels. It's a huge difference!

[@EugénieOuchakova]

I do too, Lucy is a gem

[@celineclt1194]

​@@ralucaolaru2289 But she's also a youtuber and you need clickbait to survive on those platforms nowadays... It's perfectly understandable. Also, good teachers can use humour/irony/sarcasm/whatever as long as their learners understand what they mean: from the comments I read, it's the case here. People who follow Lucy understood her just fine :)

[@nesiaoktania5227]

I think what lucy suggests is more useable in academic context especially in IELTS writing since more advanced words get a higher score. Cmiiw.

[@kingo_friver]

Both Rachel and Lucy used to be lit, swag teachers but they are now totally marina-tificated. I'm sick of seeing "Don't say xxxx" in my KZbin recommendations

[@fredylopez2477]

Maybe they're making more money now that they're associated with Linguamarina, it could be a posibility.

[@wallacesousuke1433]

Blame YT, my friend, sadly clickbait tactics work

[@hemasharma6364]

I m so glad that a native speaker is addressing this. Such influencers confuse the second language learners. I am astounded that so many people are copying this trend of late teaching vocabulary in a wrong way. Keep making such videos. Best wishes from India.

[@MNCases]

But Linguamarina is worse 😂😂😂 I saw one of her videos about how to greet someone who has a birthday omg so funny 😂😂😂. It’s okay to make mistakes because we all make mistakes but the problem is when you make mistakes and then teach it to people😅.

[@payat5067]

Agree!

[@anulonilatac]

brochure is stressed on the first syllable in British English.

[@Adriana49942]

Anyways, this video won't stop me from learning from Lucy.

[@p_petrokaa1640]

Me neither, Lucy is a gem. I managed to learn a lot from her i watch her on daily basis she helped me a lot to improve my English. She might sometimes overexaggerate using some fancy seldom English words but as far as i concerned with the intention of helping us to be more sophisticated or to get a better grip on understanding the language.

[@Adriana49942]

@@p_petrokaa1640Absolutely agree. Her accent is beautiful too!

[@johnlannh7295]

Love is blind

[@Grybop]

Her collab video with Marina put me off her.

[@wallacesousuke1433]

@@Adriana49942 Rachel is better since she breaks down how natives actually speak very well, same for Learn English with TV series, Lucy is amazing and classy but good luck finding native people that actually speaks like her, natural English is an entirely different beast than proper English taught at schools or by most teachers. You can master proper English and still struggle to understand movie dialogues and natives speaking informally, small talks..

[@magorzataleszczynska42]

It seems Marina makes a lot of mistakes while speaking. What's the point to listen to such a teacher.... ?

[@aiquesono]

She is not a native speaker I would be very careful with her info, as she wasnt even a teacher before getting famous on yt

[@NgocNguyen-zv4tx]

Thank you for the hard work in making this video, it's eye-opening and VERY informative. The first part made me crack so hard. Then I started to get frustrated watching the next part. Some people need to stop calling themselves teachers, they don't know what they're talking about.

[@ACB595]

I truely appreciate her way of teaching and her videos. Maybe it would be better to have own ideas instead of criticizing the work of others.

[@miroslavalaucikova9350]

Wow, as an English teacher who never lived abroad I tend to make some of these mistakes too 😬 Nobody's perfect. Thanks for fixing us 🙃 Valuable🎉

[@srinath6247]

This is not denigrating! He's dedicated to educating us on the correct usage of the English language. This is very helpful! Thanks a million for all you do!!!

[@19eighty7a]

While advanced vocabulary can be impressive, it's often more practical to focus on words that are commonly used in everyday conversations and writing. By mastering a core vocabulary, you'll be able to express yourself clearly and effectively in a variety of situations.

[@Pidalin]

That's what I was trying to explain when someone told me that I should not say "I see nothing" and such phrases, because it's very primitive English and I should say "I don't see anything" instead, but these phrases can be pretty confusing and sometimes I am not sure if result is positive or negative, so I tend to use more primitive, but more clear variant in some of these cases. The worst hell in English for me are phrases like "we don't need no education" where I really have to think about it for a long time if they need or don't need education, so that's the reason why I don't use these phrases and I want to be clear even for people who have very limited knowledge of English. My English often looks very simple (and there are people on the internet who always say it to you), but you can probably understand what I am talking about, while people who are trying to use more complex grammar (in language that is not their native langauge and they don't understand it properly yet) sometimes create really unclear and weird phrases and when I ask about how they meant it, sometimes they are even upset that I didn't appreciate their "advanced" English. 😀 In my language (Czech) you just have to remember if result of several negatives and stuff like that is negative or possitive, it's completely random, there is no clear rule and I want to avoid these problems in English.

[@ariszadoroshenko535]

I think you didn’t quite catch what Lucy’s video is about. I’ve been watching her for several years, and the point she’s making isn’t that you shouldn’t use those words at all, but rather that there are other words you can use instead, and so on. While watching the video, I was looking for what those words mean exactly and how they differ, etc., so…

[@BrianZiola-yt4ki]

Yeah, but there is some kind of toxicity and gatekeeping in this kind of video. It can also be confusing for people who are learning.

[@fredylopez2477]

So she's not teaching with a correct and appropriate method.

[@JohnValentine-f1s]

idk if I see 'DON'T USE THOSE WORDS!!!' I usually think that it means 'Don't use those words' Mind-reading is not in my curriculum.

[@munarong]

This has been my way of learning English from the start, it's to learn from the native English speakers and also real teachers, not from anyone that thought he/she knowing some amount of English and come on to play a role of a language teacher or coach. Thank you very much for this video.

[@jis1001]

Marina is top tier cringe when it comes to teaching English. Once I watched a yt short of her where she was saying, you should use the term "rip-off" instead of saying very expensive. It baffled me as I knew what rip-off meant actually.

[@lamaxx8562]

My British friend always says "rip off" when she sees something overpriced. The word has few meanings.

[@Endisia]

Using emotionally charged words instead of more neutral near-synonyms 😅

[@harderotica4505]

It takes much effort to create a lesson like this. It is very useful, thank you!

[@tommydarieltrinh]

I remembered Linguamaria was corrected by a British Teacher (his name was Ash). In the video she said "Don't say I'm eating lunch, say I'm having lunch". Moreover, she also said "because not any American speakers use I'm eating lunch". However, she was corrected by him and. It makes me more relief, for non native people cannot be fooled anymore

[@robertovega936]

That's how the American English is spoken here in the USA. We use very, thing or things on our daily conversations. Thanks Kevin, for showing the real American English, great job as usual

[@msvcpdll3735]

why is it on not in? genuinely wondering

[@ANV1832]

Just FYI - Lucy is English so I assume she tesches UK english,not american.

[@LarysaPavlova]

​@@ANV1832 It really doesn't matter. There are two different kinds of English: the one is for every day communication and another is for IELTS and TOEFL or reading the Economist or the Times. But in this case some of her statements are really controversial.

[@mynonmignon]

Trust me, we say those three words a lot over here in England 😂 I generally like Lucys videos but well yeah, this wasn't her best one was it 🙈

[@adamclark1972uk]

​@msvcpdll3735 it should be in. We use them IN our daily conversations.

[@lebendigesdeutsch5123]

I LOVE your videos and your teaching method. Go on, PLEASE!!!

[@sarahjoines9343]

English with Lucy teaches British English I think she is talking about using more advanced vocabulary for for an exam

[@user-lt4vz2ft9h]

Using the word Very is not a mistake it's 101%true

[@maygraceyoro6798]

They humanize the dogs and treat them as their babies that's why they use "meet".

[@volunteerforever]

When you say, "I met a deer in the forest," you're implying that you saw a deer, and the deer saw you. It's a mildly figurative use of the verb 'to meet', and English is rich with metaphoric usage. If you say, "I saw a deer in the forest," you're not disclosing whether or not the deer saw you. As poets in general know, to make any language rich and interesting, it's perfectly acceptable to push the boundaries of conventional usage.

[@SzymonCybulski]

A lot of useful knowledge, thank you! I find the video hard to navigate. Since I rely heavily on Rachel's English's teaching I was trying to scroll to parts specifically related to her channel but wasn't able to locate any of them…

[@fegetables]

me too...

[@valeria-y2u]

Thanks Liza and Kevin for your GREAT job. I LOVE your videos and your teaching method. Go on, PLEASE!!!

[@sergiovasquez9138]

Watching this ideo has brought me a feeling of relief that I can barely tell, thank you so much.

[@annann2256]

Obviously Kevin never said that Lucy is not a professional teacher, he just explains to us that “very” “said” “thing” are good words and we should use these words.💚

[@GloriaDuran-dw3qx]

Isn't Lucy a professional teacher?

[@annann2256]

@ Lucy is a professional teacher and I love her ❤️

[@PeterMoss-kn2wk]

7:14, you can meet a deer, if it's Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer. Santa Claus meets him pretty regularly.

[@halynakurochkina4229]

What’s the matter with Lucy? She’s a native speaker too.

[@benjaminnatthaphol4931]

She sometimes just makes mistakes. Probably,she did not revise her contents before posting.

[@dannyjorde2677]

She gets carried away by the trend. And what's the trend of every random "teacher" you see on the Internet? "Stop saying this, stop saying that, you should say this". That's what draws attention and what will help them get views, because they take advantage of their students' ignorance.

[@fredylopez2477]

​​@@dannyjorde2677 That might work, I mean it might draw attention but it's a double-edged sword. Besides, there's no need to do that if you're a very good teacher, your quality attracts everyone's attention.

Kevin and Liza are VERY jealous. Anyway, attacking another channel because it teaches refined English is pathetic. I'm not a native speaker, I don't consider myself fluent in English, so Lucy's channel is very relevant because I want to learn advanced English.

[@moody_moony123]

Thank you for bringing this up, I aleady know English, and these so-called English YT tutors make nonsense videos to attracts viewers attention, and many learning English starts to believe this tomfoolery!

[@no89lan3]

That’s the state of KZbin nowadays, sad!

[@fredylopez2477]

It could be but, that strategy tends to confuse people who don't have a vast knowledge of the language and that's not correct.

[@anthonymedina7737]

This youtubers started doing quality content, and all things he's exposing in this video are valuable because they are only confusing the learner.

[@MarcioSilva-qe1vd]

In my opinion, Lucy is just wanting to show that the English language can be more sophisticated and go beyond the basics.

[@SirajumMonira-hu8qn]

she( Lucy) was just talking about the alternatives of very and and just wanted to tell us not to use the word very too much.

[@zkdd23]

"words you should never EVER say or write" lol

[@freedomofspeech766]

She clearly stated NEVER to use them.

[@adamclark1972uk]

Yeah but as shown in this video she teaches false information such as very risky = perilous

[@fredylopez2477]

BUT she didn't say it like that, she said; words you should never use, say and write. My mother tongue's Spanish AND. It's as if I said; "never use the word "madre" or "mamá" which mean "mother" and "Mom" respectively, there are no other words to say it in Spanish.

[@freedomofspeech766]

@@fredylopez2477 Exactly ....

[@dzack]

"don't say/never say" is a youtube plague, not only in English-learning films, but also in other languages.

[@msmr7283]

Thank you so much. This channel is a treasure.

[@araamirjanyan960]

Thank You so much for the informative video! I appreciate Your work!

[@MelittaFilter-c4g]

I personally appreciate Lucy. As a European I prefer British English.

[@irynar9431]

omg, I needed this content so much!!! thank you!

[@alejomdp]

At around 4:29:00 and on, that "simple action" is really the present subjunctive, that's why it may or may not happen, because it's a subjunctive form. I mention this because many people think English doesn't have a present subjunctive tense and only call "subjunctive" the past subjunctive (e.g. "if he WERE clever he woudn't do that") . And actually it doesn't change for the third person singular because its conjugation in modern English coincides with the infinitive: "The officer recommended (that) she BE more careful next time", "The teacher recommended (that) he PAY atention".

[@PS_Tube]

English with Lucy goes with the objective of making the learners of ESL to pass the CEFR B2 level. Her tutorials are meant for specific purpose. Other than that, her tutorials are okay.

[@azahazel]

Love this video. Every second of it. Thank you for correcting other people’s mistakes. I didn’t even realize how much nonsense I’d been taught!

[@lwinmoeaung.]

Same here 🫠

[@irene31415]

Thank you for this useful video! It is very difficult for not native speakers to recognize false self-claimed teachers

[@carla_ps]

"They are not 'false self-proclaimed' teachers; they are excellent professionals who have made some mistakes. I find this video extremely important for raising awareness among students (and teachers) about content that could make them waste their time. However, it should not be intended to publicly shame those teachers."

[@gz4589]

Once you have a good level in English, try to watch these Lucy's videos again and I'm quite sure you won't think the same. If you still do, it's okay, not every style is for everyone ;-). BTW, I don't mean you have a low level right now, your comment is really well constructed, but Lucy's videos are usually for a more intermediate and advanced levels.

[@carla_ps]

@@gz4589 I have C1-level proficiency. ;)

[@carla_ps]

@@gz4589 C1 level here. ;)

[@gz4589]

@@carla_ps C1 here as well ;-), well, Lucy's style is not for everyone, I think I understood what she meant and I still use the "forbidden" words when I need to, but try to avoid them to improve my vocabulary, and that's what I think Lucy made the videos for. ;-)

[@NərminSHM]

Come on. Not Lucy! Seriously? Lucy can't be wrong 😱 Please. Then İ stop learning English now. Because Lucy is an English lady, and whatever she teaches İ am going to believe. Perhaps she just want to empathize that there were more words similar to very

[@tintinp1]

Thank you so much for making this video because I was also thinking why not use these beautiful English words which has been used since it's inception.

[@icaroestivalet2159]

KZbin has become an open school where anyone can be a teacher, so nonsensical content is a side effect. In this algorithm-driven world, and highly competitive for our attention, a pretty face + charisma + good video resolution + elegant editing often win over content quality. The result is a flood of people spreading inconsistent information just to boost views and revenue, following a recipe that doen't put accuracy in the equation. I feel relieved that real teachers are now stepping up and providing the SOOOOO necessary alerts and reviews of channels that are becoming the "new language schools".

[@Cwyntz]

Finally! An English teacher with common sense!

[@INDOBSERVER]

That was a knockout hit! Excellent lesson from excellent teachers!

[@SalomonAlaniz]

So that's why Customer Care reps from India sound like that

[@ramonek9109]

I feel the point the first video by the pretty blonde was missed. It was not to teach basic textbook english to beginners but to encourage intermediate learners to speak with some flourish. Of course native speakers use very but it can be a crutch. Dont intensify everything with very. She also never says that it is a mistake but only that it is boring, which is a matter of taste.

[@josemadrizcenteno3491]

She literally says "don't never ever use these words". She's dropping examples that make sense just for certain situations, but she's encouraging you to use those words in all kind of context which is absolutely wrong.

[@fredylopez2477]

It can't be boring if it's the word for certain situations and it's a term that's part of the language and everybody says it, as simple as that.

[@ramonek9109]

@@fredylopez2477 No it is not as simple as that. You can say very good, very tasty, very fast. Of course it is not a mistake but native speakers will know words that already mean very good, very tasty, very fast by themselves. Excellent, delicious, rapid. At some point it is no longer about just what is correct but also personal style. Do you think a talented writer would intensify everything with very instead of finding the exact single word for this? It is hyperbole to say to never use very. It is a perfectly normal word that is used everyday in normal conversation but I also think it appropriate for a teacher to push students to express themselves with a bit more bravado and personal style. You say that it cannot be boring if it is used all the time but this is the exact reason why it is boring to always use it. Language should be used with a bit of playfulness and sense of fun and only using basic words with very in front is not exciting.

[@Poonam4536]

You have cleared my confusion with relation to the pronunciation of the "ch" sound.

[@ru2979]

🤣🤣🤣Bro woke up and chose violence

[@nishaalisha-react]

😂😂😂

[@pipe_99]

I want to say something. when you say rare words in english. people wont understand you. i agree with this video. i use very. every day. very good video.

[@ingushas]

I did not think Lucy would make this list. But Marina yes, she makes a lot of very basic mistakes. Maybe should speak slower and focus on what she is saying, rather than babbling

[@OM-wb3zi]

I agree with these professors. If those words weren’t good, schools would not teach them. 🙄

[@ErickPadilhadeOliveira]

Hey my friends! Good work! Thank you very much!

[@JeremyDay-y7n]

Read any book and see what is used 99% of the time. The answer is said and asked. During any narrative, said and asked are preferred because they are almost invisible to the reader or listener. It is the very fact that they are boring that they are the best choice. Tone in dialoge can be much more effective than a word that tries to say everything for you. Of course, there are exceptions to any blanket statement.

[@ronniecortex4936]

Consider adding subtitles for the clips...

[@ruslan--belik]

Lucy looks like she regrets every second of that pre-arranged stream.

[@santialexee]

Marina is always wrong, I don't know why there are still people who listen to all her crap

[@fredylopez2477]

They're all russians that's why.

[@fredylopez2477]

I guess all those people are from Russia, she must be an idol over there.

[@elhappyfish]

@@fredylopez2477 I can confidently say that almost nobody knows her in Russia, and the people who know her might also wonder who the hell actually listens to her content hehe.

[@fredylopez2477]

​@@elhappyfish I didn't know that, I thought she was an idol over there.

[@jis1001]

This is called a pretty face advantage.

[@whukriede]

The other day I met a nice dog on the Internet. He was very admirable. On the other hand he spoke some kind of weird American accent. Now let's practice... omg.

[@elusive_snail]

Ok, so we know Marina is Russian and moved to the US as an adult. OF COURSE she’s going to make mistakes-phonetically, lexically, and otherwise. This is unavoidable, no matter how proficient you get as a non-native speaker. Picking on those mistakes actually feels a bit mean-spirited and elitist. Now I don't know if Marina is good at teaching, as I’ve never watched her (just clicked on some random videos now-she seems alright), but I disagree that only native speakers are worthy of teaching English. Non-native teachers can sometimes bring more value since they’ve consciously learned the language themselves, giving them sort of an "insider" perspective that helps them guide students more effectively.

[@barbara201]

But she teaches the wrong words and the wrong prononciation, it's misleading. She obviously doesn't master the English language, so how come she is teaching English ??

[@Endisia]

Yeah, I mean - "meet a dog" sounds good for me. She sees a dog and considers it a dog-person. Veeeery cool. And she does it again with "admirable". These are very subtle things and you should always know the hidden meaning but it would turn into rambling if you just talked about this aspect of the words. Which I'd certainly do.

[@beatadebski]

It's only normal that teachers can and will make mistakes, but it's no excuse for Marina teaching vocabulary and pronunciation badly, ecpecially to a larger audience like YT.

[@non-canonstoryteller]

I'd prefer to learn from a native tutor but ok, it's just my taste. The thing is Marina doesn't have a teaching qualification. She doesn't have a moral right to teach someone English

[@anyalafayette]

There are many non-native speakers who have an impeccable English. The language itself is not that complex, it's actually quite simple (compared to other languages that have features like declensions, conjugations with various terminations, and genders) and it's very easy to speak it properly. If you still make mistakes, it means that you should hire a teacher and not become one.

[@SashaBraus321]

Now this is underrated. THANK YOU!!🙏🏻

[@apoghossian]

the lady wearing glasses: speaking with an accent is ok, but she might consider not using the distorted vocal fry, sounds terrible

[@englishwithbruno]

After 28 minutes of watching you, I realized you look like Michael J. Fox.

[@alucard6656]

I used to watch Marina's videos so often, but I've realized that she speaks even worse than me!

[@ЖанияКаниева-ъ5щ]

That was super helpful! We appreciate your efforts! Thanks

[@aprilsantana6531]

Would it be correct to say: what the best way for you to learn English is? (With IS at the end of the phrase)?

[@yin_xing]

What is*

[@fredylopez2477]

I think I'd express it in other ways just to convey the idea correctly; DIRECT QUESTION; -What's the best way to learn English ?. # leaving out the expression "FOR YOU" because you're already asking the question to the person you're talking with. INDIRECT QUESTION; - I wonder, what the best way to learn English IS. # Omitting the expression "FOR YOU" too, because when you wonder, you're not talking with anyone, you just wonder. FROM MY POINT OF VIEW; an alternative way would be; - IN YOUR OPINION, What's the best way to learn English ?. # You don't have to use the expression "FOR YOU" either, because you're asking or saying to the other person "in your opinion" and then ask the direct question. "In your opinion" instead of "FOR YOU".

[@jimanHK]

61 min brilliant adjective (VERY GOOD) A2 UK informal very good: "Did you like the film?" "I thought it was brilliant." The Cambridge Dictionary

[@Winteriscoming1984]

Yeah, the moment will come: a youtuber english teacher with less subscribers than Kevin will make a video about his mistakes😂😂😂

[@lamaxx8562]

😂😂

[@vadimZ1000]

Marina sucks in English but Lucy is another level

[@AlexandreLuiz-ph8ns]

Obvious... She is from U.K. Rachel is amazing as well .. But marina is terriblllllleeeee

[@solenem.2553]

Well Marina learnt English, she's not a native speaker, obviously she's not going to be as good as Lucy

[@barbara201]

@@solenem.2553 So why does she teach english if she doesn't master it ??

[@solenem.2553]

@@barbara201 Well, she's allowed to, and there are a lot of language teachers out there who are not native speakers of the language they teach. It's okay as long as you double check your information I guess. She also has plenty of followers so... she's not going to stop her business if it works, even if you disagree with her doing it.

[@barbara201]

@@solenem.2553 When you are at school do you double-check what your teacher teaches you ? That is the whole point of teaching

[@DT-lf2up]

Amazing! Thank you for putting so much time into this! Doing materials of that sort is VERY (😂) helpfull, meaningful and essential!❤❤❤

[@Argenbiz]

Thank you very much! I gave up watching those channels because of the sense of anguish and stress they cause when you spend an entire life learning a language that appears to avoid any approval or encouragenent to the poor one who still wants to 'sound native'.

[@iamlali]

When i literally know my level is intermediate At English, but i took English with Lucy's test , (based on that) i was A2! A nonsense

[@Pidalin]

When I talk to a person that is not a native speaker of English (which most of people are if you don't live in UK or USA) I pronounce T in these words on purpose becuase it's better understandable for them. I remember when I was talking with my co-worker about watching Castlevania on Netflix and when I sad "kaslvejnia" (written like in Czech alphabet), he didn't get it, I had to repeat it in Czenglish "kastlvánija" and then he got it, so this is a problem, you know how it should be pronounce, but you simplify it to make other people around you understand it more clearly.

[@ruyneto2007]

Good taste, but...I think you should keep using Cas|le to train his hearing.

[@michaelduffy6874]

I never say "I said . . . ", I say "I'm like . . . "

[@Soandso1-q9x]

😂😂😂

[@Patch57055]

Lucy was probably teaching an advanced class.

[@Higurashika]

But her wording sounded very bad.

[@moody_moony123]

troll

[@Patch57055]

@@moody_moony123 goblin

[@tocode5434]

But, does it make sense to say something like "never ever use this word. It is a mistake"?

[@Patch57055]

@@tocode5434 you need the context. What if she was joking? We need to see the original video to see exactly what she meant. I've been following her for a while and she is a very good teacher.

[@maya.7057]

Guys, Lucy was ironic about the words "very / said" and so on! This is her old video, of course she meant "use something else except for "very". It was obvious for me :) Normal British irony :) I love it!

[@fredylopez2477]

She didn't say like that, it wasn't so obvious, she said it as if it were a mistake, and definitely, it ain't a mistake.

[@maya.7057]

@@fredylopez2477 What do you mean by "ain't" at the end of your message? It looks a bit opposing to waht you wrote before "ain't". So, was it her mistake or not? I've been watching Lucy's videos for a long-long time. She's an experienced and a well-versed teacher. Perhaps, she shouldn't have said the word - "never" (use these words). That's a bit exaggerated, that's true :) Some people might get it literally. This very thing is not appropriate, I agree.

[@fredylopez2477]

​@@maya.7057 I know the word "AIN'T" is incorrect grammatically but americans use it all the time and when I lived in the USA I got used to using it sometimes, even actors or singers use it in their performances and songs so I don't know why it's so strange to you

[@fredylopez2477]

​​​​​@@maya.7057 I know the word "AIN'T" is incorrect grammatically but I got used to using it sometimes when I lived in the USA, besides even famous actors and singers use it in their performances and songs. Therefore it comes out naturally. so I don't know why you ask that question, you should know that by now. Yeah you're right, "she should've NEVER said the word "NEVER"." # She should've said "there are alternatives for those words, other acceptable ways to say the same thing or convey the same idea. In the long run that was her mistake, trying to attract subscribers by saying things which aren't true and she knows that. In the long run the word "AIN'T"is incorrect grammatically but it's turned out to be correct since almost all americans use it in the USA.

[@maya.7057]

@@fredylopez2477 People use a lot of expressions, I usually don't take everythihg as appropriate expressions to use. I know about "ain't", but it sounds too casual for my liking to answer in a comment. I agree, Ludy overplayed with the words "never use it". But as I said she's and experienced teacher, she was young and unguarded back in the day when she made that video :) But I personally wouldn't attack teachers - native speakers. That's just my opininion, I might be wrong about it. I like her as a teacher, that's the reason I defend her.

[@ezemeza1363]

I love these exposing videos. To be honest, by the way, in none language the textbooks matches the real native speaking. That happens in every language. Even in formal contexts.

[@ricardomendiola3947]

Amo su canal de KZbin y muchas gracias por compartir este tipo de errores que comenten los "maestros de inglés" que NO son maestros, son puro charlatan. Nos hacen tanto daño a la comunidad que queremos adquirir y aprender el idioma inglés. Saludos desde México