EVERYTHING To Expect From Each Legend At God Valley

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Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
01:16 Figarland Garling’s Battles
03:28 Shanks’ Abandonment
05:27 Rock's Rebellion
07:16 Gold Roger’s Rise
09:24 The Birth Of The Revolutionary Army
10:59 The Destruction Of God Valley

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@KatsuImagitian
@KatsuImagitian 8 ай бұрын
Honestly I think folks are jumping the gun. I think God Valley will be a flashback that's just told in multiple spanning perspectives until we get the full picture of everyone's motives for being there. For now we'll see Kuma's POV and probably how he escaped with Iva and this new Ginny girl. Maybe their meeting with Dragon? Otherwise is doubt we get the full incident with Rocks and Roger.
@franjaff6919
@franjaff6919 8 ай бұрын
I'm getting the same feeling. Granted, we're at a point now in the story where it feels like any secrets could be revealed, but I feel like God Valley is something we'll learn about in full alongside the Straw Hat's
@ShatteredGlass916
@ShatteredGlass916 8 ай бұрын
Why wouldn't we? If Oda prolong the flashbacks by only giving us chunks it'll only burdens the overall story. Tying Kuma, Garling, Shanks, Roger, Garp, Rocks and his crew (WB, BM, Kaido, etc) in one fell swoop is the best way to do it. Afterall there's still Imu's and Joyboy's flashback yet to come
@zero1188
@zero1188 8 ай бұрын
Hope not. Hope we get most the story now
@IgnorantWeed
@IgnorantWeed 8 ай бұрын
We would all think that if it werent for the oden flashback that gave us so much more than we espected.
@sapphire9501
@sapphire9501 8 ай бұрын
That's what we expected from oden flashback too . Bro it's the final arc there is no better time to show the story and tie god valley incident to all big players.
@murphydaquan
@murphydaquan 8 ай бұрын
Can't believe the level of hype that we're getting right now. Goda's been on a historic run.
@KaxMerg
@KaxMerg 8 ай бұрын
I never EVER would have expected how excellent egghead has been so far. I agree. Oda is LITERALLY writing historically great and significant manga right now.
@murphydaquan
@murphydaquan 8 ай бұрын
@@KaxMerg this is true
@crookedhairlineman7763
@crookedhairlineman7763 8 ай бұрын
"Goda"? Crazy glazing
@KaxMerg
@KaxMerg 8 ай бұрын
bro i would let Oda bust the fattest one ever right in between my lips. idgaf if you wanna be homophobic or judgmental, this shit is peak and he deserves praise for the great work@@crookedhairlineman7763
@Vortex-ot3dg
@Vortex-ot3dg 8 ай бұрын
​@@crookedhairlineman7763it's better than glazing yourself, cause I know u liked ur own comment
@franjaff6919
@franjaff6919 8 ай бұрын
Is there a chance that we see Dragon here as a young trainee marine with Garp before he ultimately decides to defect?
@mokaljordan
@mokaljordan 8 ай бұрын
Maybe, i see 3 options for dragon in kuma's flashback 1. Dragon runs into kuma at god valley briefly as a marine but doesnt see kuma for some years until after hes ousted as king to where kuma joins the freedom fighters 2. When kuma gets deposed as king, kuma and dragon will meet for the first time when kuma briefly becomes a pirate 3. Dragon meets up with kuma and ivankov at god valley they all form the freedom fighters and dragon puts kuma undercover as the king of sorbet for a mission
@jenniferst.george810
@jenniferst.george810 8 ай бұрын
We know that Garp hates the celestial dragons and refuses promotions to not work with them, so yeah I am guessing this would be a life-changing moment for a young Dragon who is fighting a long side his dad
@danieljoseph3013
@danieljoseph3013 8 ай бұрын
Yea he’s 17 which isn’t too young since Koby was around that age
@jomalomal
@jomalomal 8 ай бұрын
beat me to it lol
@franjaff6919
@franjaff6919 8 ай бұрын
@danieljoseph3013 I feel like Dragon at that age is already going to be pretty tough as well with Garp presumably wanting to build him to be another marine hero
@primesonic4459
@primesonic4459 8 ай бұрын
If Dragon was at God Valley and saw Roger free the slaves (Kuma, Ivankov, Ginny, Etc) then Dragon being at Rogers executions has a lot more weight and meaning
@isaiahthompson2134
@isaiahthompson2134 8 ай бұрын
There's solid indicators of Rocks being someone that wanted to transform the world, as after the Rocks pirates were disbanded 3 of its crew members (Whiteboard, Big Mom, Kaido) went into the new world and formed their own miniature Worlds reflecting their sometimes twisted view of an ideal society. To me this hints at Rocks wanting to tear down the World Govt and the Celestial Dragons that sit atop it then create a new order, but that similar to Kaido and Big Mom he could've had a distorted view of justice and/or a by-any-means-necessary approach
@TheJaviferrol
@TheJaviferrol 8 ай бұрын
Just like Shanks turned out to have CD heritage, imagine that the first time we see non-silouetthe Rocks and he's actually holding a baby with a big red nose.
@kingad8869
@kingad8869 3 ай бұрын
Peak.
@TheSavageAdult
@TheSavageAdult 8 ай бұрын
Fans should keep their expectations Low, this is from Kuma's memories. He couldn't have just seen all that took place at the God Valley Incident.
@deniyii
@deniyii 8 ай бұрын
This isn’t a valid argument. Oda has never shown a flashback from a single person’s point of view. The flashback to luffy’s childhood after ace died, showed many scenes that luffy has no idea about.
@Ty-cx5zj
@Ty-cx5zj 8 ай бұрын
??? the focus was ultimately on the three brother kuma was NOT a main focus in the god valley events that sengoku was talking about.@@deniyii
@deniyii
@deniyii 8 ай бұрын
you have it backwards. It doesn't matter that Kuma was not a main focus in GV, it only matters that GV is a main focus in Kuma's story. And the flashback to Luffy's childhood was 100% about Luffy. Sabo and Ace were a main focus in his childhood, so they featured extensively.@@Ty-cx5zj
@SrMissileMonkey
@SrMissileMonkey 8 ай бұрын
@Ty-cx5zj idk, he could be. Kuma is recently revealed to be part of the Buccaneer race. A factoid that Oda has recently played up the importance of, esp with the fact during God Valley and Kuma's time growing up a lot more people than the present, know the existence of. Idk what happens in the flashback but being a Buccaneer may play a roll for most involved. I mean, an abnormally strong being slave to the WG [Kaido] part of an extinct race [Big Mom] who just lost his family _to_ the WG [Whitebeard] is a person of interest for the overall future motivations for the titular Rocks Pirates crew. If Oda decides to make it a point that being a Buccaneer, who seem to be a lot closer and more knowledgeable to the legend of Sun God Nika and to an extent, possibly Joyboy, than other people of the One Piece World, Kuma could be *that* catalyst alongside the 6 chests from the games as a side prize in the chaos.
@Ty-cx5zj
@Ty-cx5zj 8 ай бұрын
@@deniyii You just made up that god valley is the main focus on kuma flashback you are setting your expectations based on your wants and not the narrative. We still need to see how kuma became a tyranical king which is 100% not gonna be in god valley as he most likely escapes with ginny and invakov. Luffy flashback wasn't 100% about luffy it was about luffy, sabo, and ace which is why we had focus on all 3 of hte brothers and why it called by the fandom the ASL flashback.
@juventudperpetua
@juventudperpetua 8 ай бұрын
I can’t help but think Oda is contrasting Egghead with God Valley because it will develop into a historical event of the same caliber. I mean, they’re both jam packed with an inordinate amount of top tier characters and have similar themes. Maybe this is Luffy’s Roger moment.
@cozmyx25
@cozmyx25 8 ай бұрын
I have a bad feeling about this flashback and I hope I'm wrong but I think it'll be 90% about Kuma.. how he became a "tyrant" ruler, then maybe the birth of Bonney and her relationship with Kuma, Vegapunk... Again, I hope I'm wrong here but I really don't expect to see Xebec or Garling in action for more than lets say a single clash, like we saw roger and whitebeard.
@Ty-cx5zj
@Ty-cx5zj 8 ай бұрын
exactly, narratively it doesnt make sense for them to overtake his flashback when kuma is the focus here.
@BraceDecades
@BraceDecades 8 ай бұрын
God Valley was big enough of an event to need two full flashbacks to properly unravel. Maybe even three. We'll get Kuma's perspective for this one, and later on, when it becomes more relevant, we'll revisit it for the full context on Rocks and Roger and such.
@dariuslegacy3406
@dariuslegacy3406 8 ай бұрын
@@Ty-cx5zj Depends. If Egghead is meant to be Luffy's equivalent of the God Valley incident, then a full flashback makes sense. Doesn't look like it's going that way though. We're seeing Kuma's memory of the incident, so it's likely information about Rocks, Roger and their goals will be kept from us. Kuma should remain the focus of his flashback, so yeah, we might have to wait until maybe Garps flashback for that info.
@thewindowtree2834
@thewindowtree2834 8 ай бұрын
I agree that we won't get everything at once, but I do think we'll get more than just Kuma's story. This is because this isn't just his flashback. It's also Jay Garcia's story and memory of Kuma. So we'll get it from both their perspectives. That opens the door for more to be shown. For instance, we know that the five elders have battled those with D in their names. Roger and Rocks both carry the name D, so maybe they did something that upset Garcia, i.e., they fought, and slaves got freed. Also, narratively, we just left Garp with the Blackbeard pirates, so maybe this can be a chance to feed into his backstory and build hype for the next time we see him. Also, since Kuma was a slave and we already see Ivankov, then they probably escape together. Someone has to free/save them. That could be Roger and Garp.
@isauldron4337
@isauldron4337 8 ай бұрын
Xebec Will be touched on when blackbeard confirms he inherited Xebec's will
@peterdworzanski7177
@peterdworzanski7177 8 ай бұрын
Round of applause for Oda keeping up the constant hype post Wano. It’s a great time for the One Piece community!
@Shields_
@Shields_ 8 ай бұрын
@MrMorj your videos have been so amazing lately! Not only are your theories intriguing but the editing and music used really elevates the viewing experience a ton! Keep up the great work because I think you may have cracked the code!
@55meds
@55meds 8 ай бұрын
Great video Morj, the editing is so epic! These kinds of vids remind me why I love One Piece so much. Not a lot of fiction has such a grand and complex lore to inspire people like this.
@sokokk8
@sokokk8 8 ай бұрын
For the longest time people have been telling me that this flashback would complete Kaido's story. And yet he wasn't even mentioned in the video. He's the character I'm most excited to see in this flashback.
@lukerne9260
@lukerne9260 8 ай бұрын
That's One Piece fans favorite thing: finding ways to excuse Oda's poor writing. "Kaido's flashback being 3 pages isn't bad because Oda is keeping the rest for God Valley". "Franky being useless for 300 fhapters isn't bad because Egghead will be his arc". "Wano's ending wasn't rushed because we are returing to Wano in the future". And the list goes on
@animoments8969
@animoments8969 8 ай бұрын
@lukerne9260 op fans forget that Oda isnt perfect. He revealed some important things in an sbs instead of the story like Kids backstory or the Wano people who went to zorros village
@CJ-ct2mu
@CJ-ct2mu 8 ай бұрын
​@@animoments8969Neither of those things is important for the narrative being told though. But yes, it would have been nice if it was included.
@animoments8969
@animoments8969 8 ай бұрын
@@CJ-ct2mu the backstory could have made people like Kid more but I feel a lot of people hate him. Kid was one of the most important characters who took down big mom yet bege got a backstory and he didnt ? as for zorro thats importaant cause it shows us more of where zorro comes from
@CJ-ct2mu
@CJ-ct2mu 8 ай бұрын
@@animoments8969Still not necessary for the story 🤷🏿‍♂️. And sure, there are things that Oda added that he could have left out. It just is what it is. But who knows, maybe Kid isn't done and Zoro's lineage comes more into play later. If it doesn't, we still know and love Zoro anyway lol.
@preetham9641
@preetham9641 8 ай бұрын
Hot take: I don't think v will get full fledged God valley incident right now.. Especially when egghead is at it's climax.. It would b too awkward too fit it in this scenario.. What I think is that next few chapters will focus more on days kuma spent in God valley, how they escaped, how he became tyrant king etc etc. At this moment, kuma's background matters more... God valley incident can b done after egghead arc
@Haxerous
@Haxerous 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, I think so too. The flashback is Kuma's flashback, and there is quite a bit to cover there. We will get to see what he saw/experienced (as a child slave) in God Valley. There's no way we get a first-person view of Rocks and his agenda, and why Roger and Garp chose to fight him. It just doesn't make sense why Kuma would be privy to all that as a child. We might get a limited view of Garling, and assuming Dragon was even there is a bit of a stretch. All that could be covered in a Garp flashback for example.
@FelipeFrotaBass
@FelipeFrotaBass 8 ай бұрын
One of yout greatest videos morj, really looking forward to resolving all this misteries! Also believe young crocodile may play a role there and hope we can see his relation to ivankov
@chris9956
@chris9956 8 ай бұрын
thanks for uploading bro, helps through break week(s)
@DripJambe
@DripJambe 8 ай бұрын
I doubt that we’ll see everything that occurred at the god valley incident or even the most important/hype parts as this is Kumas memories of the event and not say a key figure of God Valley that was crucial like say Garling.
@TanteAlighieri
@TanteAlighieri 8 ай бұрын
I don't think so. Garling cutting down the king of GV was certainly not part of Kuma's memories, as we can see that he's somewhere completely different. Moreover, dividing the story into various flashbacks from different perspectives might slow the pace dramatically, something I don't see happening right now. I think (read: hope) we'll get it all!
@luisguilhermetavaressantos5141
@luisguilhermetavaressantos5141 8 ай бұрын
Actually not, only bonney saw the memories of Kuma. This seems like a general flashback to explain the history OF Kuma, but not necessarily BY Kuma
@davidprkno4047
@davidprkno4047 8 ай бұрын
Sure, it's Kuma's POV, but Oda can just write so he witnesses most of the incident. He is exceptionally strong even for a child so I would not be surprised if he's in the middle of everything. Enduring.
@doctoramypond
@doctoramypond 8 ай бұрын
Look,Oda has to give out most of it now if he wants to move the story. No more holding back. And from previous chapters ,he isnt holding back anymore.
@gitgud1018
@gitgud1018 8 ай бұрын
Things that I noticed - Shanks pajamas have a sun and moon on them (maybe some sort of metaphor?), 6 treasure chests as prizes for the competition (maybe 1 containing fish fruit, another 1 has the quake fruit, then 1 has shanks), Roger took a chest which had Shanks so maybe he and Garp made a deal to help protect people for treasure?
@thkhoa8805
@thkhoa8805 8 ай бұрын
I'm seeing people talking about Whitebeard referencing about Saint Figarland Garling as the one giving WB scars that Shanks share resemblance. I mean I don't think Oda had Garling in mind THAT way back tho.
@umbrella3051
@umbrella3051 8 ай бұрын
Rock solid video
@DarkdragonX7
@DarkdragonX7 8 ай бұрын
I think another way to look at Rock isthat he wanted to become "King Of The World" which could mean that he wanted to take down the world government so HE could be the one ruling over everyone. I think it is very interesting that his goal was specifically mentioned and that it is basically the same as the position that Imu holds now.
@isauldron4337
@isauldron4337 8 ай бұрын
Road to laughtale implies blackbeard and rocks are somehow related Blackbeard wants It all Xebec clearly wanted It all to himself
@Mooglatan
@Mooglatan 8 ай бұрын
Imagine thinking we're getting the full God Valley flashback now😂
@fatbluesloth5792
@fatbluesloth5792 8 ай бұрын
I’d love to see it but I’m with you on that. It’s just gonna be the kuma stuff cause he’s on his way to egghead now. Wouldn’t make sense to do it all rn unless Kuma is massively more important to god valley then we know
@KingdomKing13
@KingdomKing13 8 ай бұрын
Finally someone says it
@Johnywang1
@Johnywang1 8 ай бұрын
wym? do u mean this is a flashback like ODEN (told in stages)? i think this part of the story could potentially be a 20 episode arc at least.
@M3plusYOU
@M3plusYOU 8 ай бұрын
How do you know we are getting the full incident all at once in a big flashback? Did tamas teapot tell you?
@M3plusYOU
@M3plusYOU 8 ай бұрын
Spoilers confirm you were wrong
@elaxlol223
@elaxlol223 8 ай бұрын
God Valley is the single most hype flashback and I've waited for this ever since Sengoku talked about it. Let the show begin
@beshoyyoussef2814
@beshoyyoussef2814 8 ай бұрын
Hot take: this isn’t the full flashback it makes no sense
@LarsCaesar
@LarsCaesar 8 ай бұрын
I remember you titled the anticipation video for the Oden flashback something like this as well.
@jaywbell2002
@jaywbell2002 8 ай бұрын
Imagine if we only get Kuma’s flashback and no major rocks stuff 😂
@Mooglatan
@Mooglatan 8 ай бұрын
Yes.
@jakcalpulse8234
@jakcalpulse8234 8 ай бұрын
That's exactly what going to happen probably lol
@TiberiusELP
@TiberiusELP 8 ай бұрын
The leaks just came out and your right
@bicauseofme
@bicauseofme 8 ай бұрын
This is a 10/10 video hit a lot of good points
@_blinder
@_blinder 8 ай бұрын
You are in another level in the YT One Piece community. High quality thoughts.
@purinpuff
@purinpuff 8 ай бұрын
rocks probably knew that the celestial dragons had their competition every 3 years where they gave out devil fruits and other rare prizes to the winners, thus stealing these prizes was his motivation for pulling up to god valley. also collecting devil fruits is another parallel to BB
@mastername5373
@mastername5373 8 ай бұрын
I think Dragon was there at God Valley that's where he started to become a Revolutionary even if he didn't have his army just because 38 years ago he is around 17 that's when Luffy started his journey to be a Pirate and Garp probably became a Marine
@AssignedCryptid
@AssignedCryptid 8 ай бұрын
Considering the timeline, I wonder if God Valley is what made Donquixote Homing start to consider leaving Mariejois with his family. Doflamingo was 8 when they left and is currently 41, and I think Rosinante was a year or so younger than him, so they would have been alive but very young when it happened. Between whatever laundry list of tragedies which happened on the island plus the potential purposeful abandonment of a Celestial Dragon baby (Shanks), it might provide more context for why Homing wanted so badly to get his family out of there.
@badmagik8957
@badmagik8957 8 ай бұрын
Something I wanna point out about Garling vs Whitebeard is that whitebeard didn’t have any scars when he met Oden many years after god valley so I assume he was referring to Roger when he spoke to shanks
@generalmituna7042
@generalmituna7042 8 ай бұрын
I mean he did specifically tell Shanks that his wound aches whenever he looks at his face. And we know that Garling looked exactly like Shanks when he was younger, so I don't think he was talking about Roger.
@danieljoseph3013
@danieljoseph3013 8 ай бұрын
You can’t really tell because his shoulder is covered up. But the middle scar wasn’t there so it’s probably given by roger.
@moretune9759
@moretune9759 8 ай бұрын
I imagine the end scene of the God Valley incident would be Rocks laughing hysterically alone while facing the beam of the mother flame right before God Valley was sent to oblivion.
@theultimatemasters4160
@theultimatemasters4160 8 ай бұрын
That would be perfect tbh. Someone as legendary as Rocks needs a legendary way to go out unless he IS the lurking legend...
@billybob-uz6wz
@billybob-uz6wz 8 ай бұрын
Roger and Garp might have teamed up to take down an ancient weapon that Rocks got a hold of. Maybe Rocks had Uranus initially.
@frealish6622
@frealish6622 8 ай бұрын
This is something small. But im excited to see Roger fight with his strawhat on, its super cool to finally see that!!
@jonmaner-se3ye
@jonmaner-se3ye 8 ай бұрын
I'm excited for the reveals for God Valley. I hope Kumar's flashback reveal it but knowing Oda he might keep some of it a secret.
@mathieuleader8601
@mathieuleader8601 8 ай бұрын
this tournament is going to be memorable
@kur-o-taku1347
@kur-o-taku1347 8 ай бұрын
Leave it to Oda-sensei to subvert our expectations of God Valley, from assuming it was a clear cut division of "Rocks bad, Roger and Garp good" to honestly making it feel like Garp and Roger may have been on the wrong side of history after the recent Kuma chapter🤔 But I know it'll prolly be another rollercoaster of a ride so I'm here for whichever route Oda-sensei chooses to tread on
@devv197
@devv197 8 ай бұрын
Surprised I haven’t seen more comments about this. Was Rocks trying to kill slaves? If so, does that mean WhiteBeard was also a part of this? If he wasn’t with Rocks why did he fight against Roger?
@thatmetalhead9000
@thatmetalhead9000 7 ай бұрын
? I mean Garp who legit works for the "oppressive, slave owning, human trafficking government" being on the bad side? Who could of seen that coming???? I mean Garp is such a great guy! He likes to eat and cares about Ace and Luffy. 🙄
@cvox607
@cvox607 8 ай бұрын
Oda : you know what would be hilarious *Cut flashback once rocks is revealed*
@WhiteApeMaui
@WhiteApeMaui 8 ай бұрын
If the flashback is broken up it is most likely in two parts one perspective from Kumas pov and the other from Garps
@_ashaman_
@_ashaman_ 8 ай бұрын
In this year's jump festa event Oda said that there will be a battle royal in one piece manga nd this or that person will fight, i think Oda was talking about God Valley's flashback nd this makes sense though, we are in final saga now so
@123456qwertgfdsa
@123456qwertgfdsa 4 ай бұрын
Morj: prepare for the biggest reveal in history Oda: Naah
@xSH1N0B1x
@xSH1N0B1x 8 ай бұрын
I think God valley is still there, but it was literally wiped off every map via devil fruit ability somehow
@detectiv3konan
@detectiv3konan 8 ай бұрын
im excited for next chapter
@WilliamSutton1987
@WilliamSutton1987 8 ай бұрын
Personally, I want to believe this was the turning point for Whitebeard: where he realized how "evil" Rocks was, or rather, how the crew was collapsing. None of them had good chemistry, and it was only a matter of time until they collapsed. Despite what I said earlier, I don't believe that Rocks was as evil as we think. Rather, he was just a Dark Joyboy who, sad as it was, lost his purpose. If any of you are wondering what this enigmatic "purpose" is, then let me tell you: Joyboy's role is to be a liberator that brings smiles to all who are oppressed. However, Rocks brought fear and terror instead. That's why Roger and Garp were "brought" to God Valley - by JOYBOY/Nika - to set things right.
@BroMENCE
@BroMENCE 8 ай бұрын
The cloak old Garling wears is the same as the one "Shanks" wore when he visited the gorusei. There's no way that was actually Shanks, surely it must be another god's knight, probably a twin/brother. It makes no sense for the gorusei to host Shanks and Oda purposefully hid the scars, the only unique feature about Shanks, apart from his arm. At least his distinguishing feature relative to the rest of the Figarlands.
@badmagik8957
@badmagik8957 8 ай бұрын
Why would it make no sense for the gorosei to be interested in negotiating with the most reasonable and arguably most powerful Yonko who is also of celestial dragon blood 😂
@BroMENCE
@BroMENCE 8 ай бұрын
Since when has the gorusei given any inclination that they negotiate? What could they want from Shanks? Information? Why would Shanks be shitting himself about BB to the degree that Oda would have him beg the actual devils of this world for help. Makes no sense after Saturn's power reveal. Gorusei appears to value the status quo, where no one digs too deep or upsets the order too much. Shanks must want to at least know about the void century and if you have someone as powerful as Shanks, who wants to supposedly disrupt the power system, walk into your HQ alone, 5 on 1, you kill him. As if Shanks being a CD, excuses him from traveling with Roger or being a yonkou. Makes no sense.
@Austib_
@Austib_ 8 ай бұрын
@@BroMENCEThey listen to Shanks because he’s a celestial dragon, the same way they listen to Doflamingo and help him. Shanks has spent the ENTIRE serues tracking down people who stand a chance against BB so they can bring him down. After Whitebeard dies it only makes sense to ask the Gorosei.
@gamergamer7508
@gamergamer7508 8 ай бұрын
@@badmagik8957they don’t give a fuck if shanks has celestial blood. Like doflamingo dad, if you renounce the blood you can’t go back.
@sunwukong5518
@sunwukong5518 8 ай бұрын
​@@BroMENCEShanks has daved rhe WG time and time again. You do remember that Kaido woukd have shown up at Marineford if Shanks had not stopped him? The WG can't fight 2 Yonkou (Kaido and WB) AND the Blackbeard Pirates and survive. They would probably still defeat them but at that point they would not have a firm grasp over the World. All it would take would be the RA to show up and they would be fucked
@matthewsmith2237
@matthewsmith2237 8 ай бұрын
This is a completely baseless theory but I was wondering what if God Valley or one of the other islands they did this tournament at is where Fujitora is originally from? I’ve been looking for something that could be a reason for someone to take away their eyesight to not want to see the horrors of the world anymore. Seeing your entire hometown killed for the sake of a game could definitely qualify for that.
@georgez2702
@georgez2702 8 ай бұрын
What if Shanks was the runt of the litter and Garling thought he had stronger children
@Lineage4you2
@Lineage4you2 8 ай бұрын
There is even more things people miss since we know now it was a torunament or similar we now know why roger and garp teamed up to protect celestial dragons and their slaves. 1. Regarding celestial dragons we know they needed protection as stated in chapter 957 and also because Figerland IS a celestial dragon that stood before Rocks and his crew ,fought and ultimatley lost hence why Garp and reinforcements were called, and why Roger happened to also pull up or be there be it desitiny or dumb luck and how they directly or indirectly ended up protecting celestial dragons even tough they likely were fighting for the slaves and this ties into point nr 2 below. 2.Regarding slaves we know how inhumane celestial dragons and Garling are so it is likely the" protecting" part of Roger and Garp came from the celestial dragons making their slaves fight in the tournament taking pleasure in seeing them extingueshed on by one, Rocks and his crew timing is unkown but either they came and beat the celestial dragons and proceeded to capture the slaves and Celestial dragons as hostages until Roger and Garp intervined that is and got the W and wiped them off or 2nd scenarop is that all this happend simultaneously.However i lean more on the 1st scenario outcome as being more valid since why would Garp be called with reinforcements then ? it only makes sense they are called only after Rocks pulls up and defeats the celestial dragons. 3.Because pirates aka Rocks crew embaresd the celestial dragons and because memebers of the "D" family aka Roger and Garp ended up protecting the celestial dragons ,freed slaves and made of with treasures from the island the WG ,iMU likely viewed this as shameful hence why the mother flame was summoned and they wiped the island with with everthing that happened there to hide the great shame they suffered or to protect their image as "gods".
@ChibiMalzahar
@ChibiMalzahar 8 ай бұрын
Id like to see more on kaido and how garp feels about the dragons. If he really defeats rocks then that parallels how he lost to teach
@rafe100
@rafe100 8 ай бұрын
The thumb nail is fire u won’t lie
@johanstenfelt1206
@johanstenfelt1206 8 ай бұрын
Well, this is going to be very interesting, I think i might look forward most to Rocks’ Attack. By the way, do you know of the Sunny 13 Theory? If so, what do you think of it?
@RKritski
@RKritski 8 ай бұрын
From the direction that God Valley incident is taking, considering Kuma's and Ivankov's presence (maybe Dragon will be there too), I think the Freedom Fighters was an organization aiming the liberation of slaves, initiating after God Valley.
@Hemestal
@Hemestal 8 ай бұрын
I just cannot belive we're finally gonna get some insight in what happened at god valley
@j.flanders8372
@j.flanders8372 8 ай бұрын
I think the CDs give the slaves devil fruits to give them a fighting chance, and this could explain how boa and sisters also go devil fruits. I think they also played in this tournament, just not at the same time as kuma
@crocodilewani5467
@crocodilewani5467 8 ай бұрын
Crocodile's secret might also be here. And that's how Ivankov knows about it.
@SnugglesConquererofWorlds
@SnugglesConquererofWorlds 8 ай бұрын
I am excited to learn more about Shanks because I theorize that Shanks has already been to laugh tale and knows what the one piece is (this would happen before the first chapter but some time after Rodgers death). I think he is trying to influence the world to make whatever prophecy he found out at laugh tale happen, and knowing that he was abandoned at God Valley makes me think he could be a half breed of some kind. I know he isn't tall but he has an affinity for giants and we just learned about a giant human mix so who knows 🤷
@Amzng_grace13
@Amzng_grace13 8 ай бұрын
Xebec is Shanks’ dad, garland’s relative, presumably sister, is shanks’ mother. He was abandoned for that reason. That’s my theory
@animoments8969
@animoments8969 8 ай бұрын
Then why did he steal Kids ponyglif
@SnugglesConquererofWorlds
@SnugglesConquererofWorlds 8 ай бұрын
@@animoments8969 He never stole Kid's poneglpyh, and Kid never had his own poneglyph he only had a copy of Big Mom's poneglyph and a copy of the poneglyph at Wano. The crew offered the copies they had as a peace offering but then Dori and Brogi destroyed the ships. At no point does it show anyone on the Red Hair crew taking the rubbings or mentioning needing them. Plus Kid was the one who started that fight, Shanks was visiting Elbaph and Kid showed up and tried to fire a huge laser to wipe out the Red Hair Fleet. There is zero indication that Shanks needs the copies of the poneglyphs, and even if he did we know there are characters like Luffy and Law who have more copies of road poneglyphs than Kid. Even if that was his goal taking Kid's copies still leaves him with two more copies he needs, the one on Zoa and the last one that has yet to be revealed. If Shanks was starting from scratch and needed all the road poneglyphs, randomly targeting Kid to get copies of the two poneglyphs who's locations are the most know would be very inefficient.
@f.n8581
@f.n8581 8 ай бұрын
@@Amzng_grace13No Garling is definitely Shanks father NO DOUBT !!! Xebec and Shanks don’t even look like each other
@mathieuleader8601
@mathieuleader8601 8 ай бұрын
I believe that because of the culling nature of the tournament we will see for the first time a Kinokobito a mushroom person during the tournament
@Cult_of_Aion
@Cult_of_Aion 6 ай бұрын
Whitebeard doesn’t have the scar in the Oden flashback, it’s almost certainly not Garling’s doing, Roger is the only one ever said to be Whitebeard’s equal anyway
@KuroKijin
@KuroKijin 8 ай бұрын
I have a theory , i think Roger fighting to protect celestial dragons and their slaves was the beginning of the Shichibukai system.
@alphonsjose177
@alphonsjose177 4 ай бұрын
My theory is that Dragon was also enslaved at God Valley. Similar to Luffy Garp probably left Dragon to his own devices in Goa Kingdom. Then when some Celestial Dragon visited Dragon insulted him and the Celestial Dragon enslaved him. That is where he met many of the members of the revolutionary army such as Kuma, Iva, Karasu, Ginny, and Morley. Then when Garp learns that his son was taken he gets Sengoku to tell him where the celestial dragons are to beat their a** and to get his son back. He goes to God Valley and there he sees that Rocks is attacking both slaves and celestial dragons which is why he decides to fight Rocks. During all this Dragon is staging a mini coup and is the person who got Iva his fruit and the seiryu fruit which was stolen by big mom. Finally Garp demolishes the celestial dragon that kidnapped his son. That’s why they wanted Garp to be an admiral so much. So that they could directly rule over him.
@gofu-unlimmited3436
@gofu-unlimmited3436 8 ай бұрын
Ultimate flashback of ultimate series
@JohnSmith-yn9ju
@JohnSmith-yn9ju 8 ай бұрын
That thumbnail is hard. #Rocksdidnothingwrong
@duxfot6998
@duxfot6998 8 ай бұрын
this remind me my fav flashback in all of anime from aot. no over the top characters or amazing action sequences just two group of people fighting for what they believe in which connected all the plots and drastically elevated entire story with just one episode. i wanna feel the same excitement again from one piece.
@zero1188
@zero1188 8 ай бұрын
Think God valley is the incident that shaped the previous generation. Basically its this generation ohara incident
@kjsavla5757
@kjsavla5757 8 ай бұрын
Hey Morj. Respectfully asking you something, WHERE IS THE WANO VIDEO! WE NEED THE WANO VIDEO. And also Happy festivities!!
@golms
@golms 8 ай бұрын
I have severe ptsd from the Oden flashback.. can't risk to be fooled again with this one lol Great video nonetheless
@sunwukong5518
@sunwukong5518 8 ай бұрын
Morj, when will you release the Wano Arc analysis?
@canos263
@canos263 8 ай бұрын
I'm really curious to see if Dragon was like an Admiral level before the God Valley incident. And the hatred that Sakazuki has for him. Maybe they're friends before... Something must have happened there. So hyped for this flashback like you wouldn't believe.
@clay_freespirit
@clay_freespirit 8 ай бұрын
I'm most excited to learn about ROGER ⭐
@gurp0533
@gurp0533 8 ай бұрын
Mr goat
@grennbalze
@grennbalze 8 ай бұрын
I like the idea of Garp and Roger teaming up to protect the slaves. The Celestial Dragons could be using them as human shields in a way and Rocks will just go through them
@Garstoxxz
@Garstoxxz 8 ай бұрын
hey morj, oda already confirmed many years ago in the Yellow DataBook that whitebeard’s scar was made by Roger
@ramzee8207
@ramzee8207 8 ай бұрын
I could see an easy excuse for Shanks being on the blue sea would be something similar to Doflamigo (yes his dad chose to leave and exile himself and family) but it could be something along the lines of being out on sea for long enough to be “normal” and they wouldn’t want him back (breathing normal air or something)
@user-yc9vv9xb8s
@user-yc9vv9xb8s 8 ай бұрын
So I take it we will see every other character and action dragon shanks rocks, Roger etc I can’t wait to see their faces we all can’t wait
@Allen-qs2xr
@Allen-qs2xr 8 ай бұрын
If Uranus is really what we guess it is, then my theory is it creates a knockup stream that sends the island up to the sky and locks it there with the beansprout/spiral like power. Then it will also explain how Shandoria, after being discovered, was also erased
@grennbalze
@grennbalze 8 ай бұрын
A theory i heard a long time ago was Rocks had so many strong crew members because of Davy Back Fights
@skaldofepics9380
@skaldofepics9380 8 ай бұрын
I think Dragon will be a Marine Cadet here under Garp. He will see what the celestial dragons do and will defect, taking Kuma, Ivankov, and Jinny with him.
@blazekaizer9000
@blazekaizer9000 8 ай бұрын
I think it's hard to believe that Roger's name became big as a result of god valley, because it was supposedly forgotten and hidden. Maybe there were pirates legends and tales about it
@bluebox2996
@bluebox2996 8 ай бұрын
Does anyone know where to find the podcast or what it’s called? I can’t seem to find it on the Podcast App or spotify
@dreamkiller1116
@dreamkiller1116 8 ай бұрын
It’s funny how two moments that shook the world that had two king of the pirates celestial dragons and the crew of rocks and black beard happening at the same time im almost certain egg head and god valley would play out in similar ways with egg head being wiped off the map
@demetriusb.7885
@demetriusb.7885 8 ай бұрын
Yall are hyping this shit so much lmaooooo lol i have low Expectations.
@teylajezebel
@teylajezebel 8 ай бұрын
I wonder if God Valley gets destroyed by Uranus, whether or not the hole in the ocean that it left behind will turn out as the place where Enis Lobby ends up being later in the time line.
@letsgobrandon1906
@letsgobrandon1906 8 ай бұрын
A ROGER FLASHBACK? GOOD SHOW MORJ GOOD SHOW
@AmManTalks
@AmManTalks 8 ай бұрын
I'm curious to learn how the Rocks Pirates will know the Celestial Dragons are at God Valley. It made sense when we thought God Valley was a second home for the celestials, but knowing it's just a hunting ground, there has to be some leak that gave Rocks the info.
@B-lord360
@B-lord360 8 ай бұрын
A lot of things to look forward to, personally I can’t wait to see prime garp in action
@Dr.Cosmar
@Dr.Cosmar 8 ай бұрын
So, you've ignored something rather important. This is where the Rocks pirates "betrayed" each other, from the perspective of Big Mom and the reluctant agreance of Kaido. I think we have yet another reason why Kaido drinks the rest of his days away. Suppose, the prizes here were not devil fruits. Suppose they were children, who had eaten the devil fruits. After all... what noble would want to be "cursed"? This suddenly puts a very dark atmosphere around the whole incident, and it explains in full context the differences that Kaido and Big Mom had, and what ultimately destroyed the Rocks pirates. You mgiht be asking "what about Newgate? Did he eat a baby?", I don't think so. Roger and the Rocks pirates obviously formed an alliance before this. So they would have gone there together. The plan was probably for Big Mom and Kaido to find the loot, and then they get out of there. Things rarely go according to plan though, and so a battle was inevitable. While battle broke out, big mom and kaido found, then inspected the loot. Big mom and Kaido were both shocked to find that the treassure chests all contained children, and they had all eaten the devil fruits to some degree. Meanwhile, Garling is confused, to him. They came here to abduct their children for which they hold the God Valley hunt to determine who gets the right to bare children. (this way every parent would be broken, and none would have clean hands to defy the world government. Successfully hunt a human, and get to keep your child.) This time it was different though, because the world government knew that Stussy was double-timing them, and decided to feed the children the aforementioned children the devil fruits for either the Gorosei's or Imu's direct amusement. Roger did not know Garling was not lying, and Garling did not know what Roger was talking about almost entirely having been raised in a bubble. We turn back to big mom and kaido. Their delay has caused the enemy to catch up with them. Unsure who could pressure them to this extent, but I would bet there is at least one out there that they would fear in their youth. It was probably Garp... Kaido did the unthinkable, and Linlin saw no problem with it. This left an emotional scar on Kaido that all the booze in the world would not satiate, and all the evil deeds wouldn't amount to. Now we get to the knot of "how does Roger, Garling, and Garp, all figure out that Kaido just ate a baby." I would say, things fall into place when Kaido appears and Newgate uses the tremor fruit. Somehow or another, Garling realizes that a dirty pirate ate a baby, and that humans are no better than beasts. Garling will go on thinking it was his child that was eaten. Not realizing that Newgate probably saved Shanks from eating the Tremor fruit by sheer luck. The revelation will turn Roger against Rocks deeply. "How could you command a crew that would do something so heinous?", then roger will demand he take responsibility, and garp will back him up on it, realizing that there are larger forces at play, and most everyone had been deceived. This is long format speculation, but feel free to use whatever you want from it. I think it has bones. As for a bunch of the hunted slaves getting a second lease on life, I think that will happen with Dragon, but i think it will be very subtle and in the backdrop of everything. Either that... or.... dragon is Garp's subordinate before this, and this is where everything changes for Garp, and between him and his son.
@samuellaakso7012
@samuellaakso7012 8 ай бұрын
No exaggeration, the Rocks Pirates/God Valley-flashback is for me the single most anticipated thing in this series since the idea was introduced. Yeah, storyvise there are things and elements that matter much more, but this is the one for me. You can bet I'm HYPED as hell, the breakweek can't go past enough.
@jessieheer2
@jessieheer2 8 ай бұрын
Either we don't see God valley sink, or Uranus is something different from what happened to God valley. After lulucia was erased they didn't have any idea what was going on, and if anyone would know it would be dragon and them from first hand experience. Unless it's something different than mother flame all together.
@AngieCarr
@AngieCarr 8 ай бұрын
Seems to me that the “God Valley Incident” was the single most defining moment for almost every major figure known in the current One Piece era. Can’t wait to see how the animate this cause the God Valley Arc is shaping up to be LEGENDARY!!!
@leftjab6145
@leftjab6145 8 ай бұрын
I'm excited to see all these legends in their primes interact. I also think Roger, Garp or Xebec will put Garlin g in his place for some reason even though he may have gotten a hit on WB
@brandonhurley8983
@brandonhurley8983 8 ай бұрын
Got one thing to poke here. Lulucia wasmt destroyed by uranus. Vegapunk literally says so he gave the world government a sample of "the mother flame" but he ver could have foreseen they would us it like that. Unless they used it to power uranus. Other thing is the time line of the revolutionary army and god valley. Dragon was barely a teen for god valley. And didnt form the RE until 18 years later based on the time line. Vegapunk said the ohard incident was the reason dragon formed it. Also leading to my favourite theory that luffy and robin are siblings. Nico olvia was investogating the will of D found dragon the son of the worlds most famous d clan member. Had a baby went back to ohara to warn them while dragon watched the baby. Gets killed by the governments buster call. Dragon now resents baby luffy because if he didnt have to watch him he could have protrcted olvia. And dumps him to make the army. The ages all work robin was 8 nearly 9 when it happened and luff is 8 to 9 year younger than her. Would also fit why dragons only question after dress rosa is how is robin doing. And why the revolutionary army recruited her after the whole bridge thing in the time skip arcs
@jomalomal
@jomalomal 8 ай бұрын
What if Dragon was a young Marine accompanying Garp at God Valley, and what he saw there inspired him to defect & start the freedom fighters? Wouldn't be surprised if he walked that path before becoming a Revolutionary.
@TrueReverse74
@TrueReverse74 8 ай бұрын
I truly want to see why garp refuses to talk about god valley, I wonder if something happened to make the island so unspeakable. But I'm also very interested to see dragon if he's present at all.
@levankukhaleishvili1691
@levankukhaleishvili1691 8 ай бұрын
The treasure chests next to the celestial dragon that announces the tournament look like they have devil fruits inside them. Or is it just me?
@GalaxyImpactGarp
@GalaxyImpactGarp 8 ай бұрын
I’m just hype to see how powerful Garp is on his prime in God Valley.
@troillandford7679
@troillandford7679 8 ай бұрын
roger pulling up no facial hair looking like ace
@stevelucky7579
@stevelucky7579 8 ай бұрын
I’m more curious what throws buggy into the mix, he’s basically the same age as shanks, so how did he possibly get added to the KOP’s crew?
@themarky2714
@themarky2714 8 ай бұрын
If one were to subscribe to the Dragon was a marine trainee theory, Akainu may have likely been there as well. Maybe they saw different instances that painted the CDs/WG and the Pirates in a negative light respectively, hence why their path diverged. Being Garp's son may have given Dragon a decent childhood while Akainu is known to have suffered as a child. The theory that Garp became a hilariously abusive grandpa to compensate for his doting of Dragon would be an interesting view if Dragon was a spoiled yet talented brat but changed his ways as he grew up, inspired/traumatized by the events he's seen.
@uchihabomber1296
@uchihabomber1296 8 ай бұрын
This gonna be such an epic flashback with everyone that’s gonna be in it. I feel like the fights are gonna be like a mini Marineford fr
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