God of War Ragnarok is Overrated (Review)

[@alwayslatebychoice]

Imagine uniting the realms to the end of the universe battle only to see nothing of that battle 😂😂😂

[@lockekappa500]

See nothing? You fought through the entire thing.

[@aginor6487]

He means there was no clash of armies, no close up thor v jormungander, no surtr breaking wall. I played on story to see how fast i could get through and see if the game was memorable and ragnarok and final bosses were the least memorable part of the game 😂

[@euphoria2977]

@@lockekappa500 stop being a fanboy, the game was boring and predictable, it was not a 10 out of 10, maybe a 6 out 10

[@aic8801]

@@aginor6487 If this game was gonna be heavy on cutscenes then Ragnarok was THE PERFECT MOMENT for that. Instead we got that boring ass ironwood section.😂

[@lockekappa500]

@@euphoria2977 Not a fanboy at all, didn't even really like GoW2018 that much. I simply think this game did everything 2018 did, 10x better. Just my opinion. I could see if this game's story didnt resonate with you how you might not like it. Game wasnt for you then I guess.

[@Lilmexicansamurai]

The fanboys will never accept the constructive criticism neither will the developers

[@degenerateweeb1482]

A major problem with the game was that since Kratos wanted to avoid war, it held back the narrative. And that it was an Atreus game. I wanted to only play as kratos. The story felt like a dlc tbh. Edit- I still think it was a good game but it would've been awesome if we got a trilogy. In this game Kratos should have slowly returned to his roots. And next one should have had Kratos fully change or move on. They somehow could've accomplished the "be better" message they were going for. This could've been a masterpiece of a trilogy. I think most people are disappointed because we were expecting gow 3 level of action. It's potential was mostly wasted imo.

[@samjohnston544]

honestly i felt the end sequence was so rushed, the final thor fight was lame and we dont even see much of ragnarok, thor even says how this time he is allowed to kill kratos when he already did in their previous fight

[@joelmoore6879]

Completely agree with your opinion. I was so confused when I learned this game ended the Norse stuff. Was also really bored by the narrative being mostly about Atreus when I bought it because it’s a Kratos game.

[@its_vintage2601]

There wasn't enough sacrifice during the event of Ragnarok. There were no stakes. Sure brok was killed, but NOBE of the main chsracters died during the battle. It felt too easy, not enough weight on the final battle

[@fab137]

felt a bit too wholesome for a GoW game

[@kush6846]

Yea true, but seeing Thor send Jormungandr back in time was cool.

[@ColMarEstSan]

@@kush6846 i think i missed that . when did that happen?

[@Dass_Jennir]

​@@ColMarEstSan right before the final battle with Thor, you see the two fighting in the distance until Jomungandr disappears after being hit. Later on, while you explore in the post-game, Mimir will point out that must have been the point when he travels back in time according to prophecy. So yeah, it's easy to miss.

[@ColMarEstSan]

@@Dass_Jennir ok thank you :)

[@Abswayy]

the problem I faced with the game was that they decided to make extremely boring cutscenes like that Angroboda sequence extend to 3 hours and decided to make the "big boss fights" not even 30 mins (final thor fight). Saying that the game should've been 2 games isn't an excuse for this one to be poor, I expected to fight gods not pick up fruits for 3 hours straight. It's extremely disappointing. The intro of the game really feels "God of War" but right from the ironwood sequence the game becomes just dialogue, no big fights, all boss fights after the first thor boss fight have barely any "craziness" like the baldur fight from 2018. Also i expected kratos to unleash the "Ghost of Sparta" in this game but it was actually quite the opposite, I know he's matured but being violent to defend was what he was doing in the previous game, but in this game we see not even 25% of his true strength, only 3 seconds when he punches the teeth out of thor, but nowhere else, when the game is supposed to be the end of the world. Such a huge letdown. A 6/10 game for me. 😢

[@kush6846]

Oh my god!, that Angrboda Jottunheim part is the worst, fighting her grandmother and hitting her giant ass pot is one to the worst boss fights I’ve ever seen in a game.

[@freedy1696]

those flaws shouldn't turn this game from a 10/10 to a 6/10. I agree with all the points but that rating is way off imo. The mechanics and visuals of the game are still amazing, the voice acting is superb, the score is great, and it's a fully complete game with no bugs. That's not a 6/10 in 2022.

[@FitnessGuru91]

I would say it is an 8.5 out of 10 there is still a lot of good things that are in this game. It is not perfect but not a 6....

[@strictlypineapple9308]

U expected the ghost of Sparta to be let out while the game is legit him trying to turn away from it. Wow that was the dumbest shit I have heard. 6/10 is also criminal

[@michaelthatoker7125]

@@strictlypineapple9308 Clearly don’t know how to write a good story. Him refusing to unleash his anger even when he needs to isn’t a character development. It’s a regression. He should’ve learned to use it and either way, nobody wants to see a calm kratos wether they admit it or not. The game should’ve been loki being kidnapped, kratos going rage mode and tearing through everyone only to fail and be killed before he can finish in front of loki (probably by Thor), leading to the third game which should’ve been about an adult loki causing ragnarok, maybe stopping before killing everyone and fully realizing his fathers teachings. Instead, we got god of mid

[@AvaaSlays_Swiftie]

They should have made this a trilogy. That’s the issue. We don’t wanna spend 15 years finishing the story so they rush the story and we don’t get a crazy huge battle

[@mrblack7302]

Yeah I think drawing the story out would have helped the story

[@mandrews6282]

It’s one of those games that is great when you’re in the moment. But, like many games, once you’ve had time to sit with it after 100 percent completion, even just a short bit, you can really notice some of it’s flaws. People are just in the honeymoon phase. Same thing happened with Elden Ring and a few months later people started pointing out all it’s flaws as the initial high of a good game wore off.

[@kush6846]

The honeymoon phase, that’s clever. I agree though, I really liked playing the game but after finishing it, I sunk about 35 hours into the game and did a majority of the side content, and I can barely remember a single side quest or moment that really wowed me, aside from the Thor fight in the beginning. I’m mixed on the game overall. SPOILERS The final part of the game was anticlimactic and kind of predictable, all of the fate and prophecy stuff that the game hammers over and over to build tension doesn’t really amount to anything, and I guess in the future their maybe setting up DLC for Atreus and his adventures while Kratos and his buddies hang out in Midgard. I can’t 100%, a lot of the side content and puzzles are really annoying.

[@AdamIsInTheGulag]

Yeah I totally agree with you there. I’d still say I preferred Elden ring over Ragnarok however Elden ring was pretty mid as far as from software games go. For me at least. Narratively they handle Kratos and Atreus pretty well but everything else in the story didn’t work for me really. The whole game just felt like sequences of events happening without making a lot of sense. And the moment in the story you’re supposed to care (brok) I did not I’ve a crap. I found it so funny they hinged the emotional weight of the story on a side character who was primarily the comic relief.

[@Vangaurd_tiger]

Bro everything has flaws you can't expect perfection from everything

[@AdamIsInTheGulag]

@@Vangaurd_tiger exactly, thus the 10/10 reviews are completely warped. It was the same with Elden ring. That’s our point.

[@amysteriousviewer3772]

@@AdamIsInTheGulag I wouldn’t say Elden Ring was mid but it’s definitely not their best work. To be fair though, a mid From Software game is still better than most games out there.

[@andresleon797]

They should’ve have gone the ghosts of Tsushima route and had 7-8 unique armour sets with a specific combat strategy in mind. Having these boring and easy puzzles every 100m also gets so tedious. Also the fact that the path is always so linear takes me out of the game. I’m supposed to be playing as a god of war but I can’t just jump over a Boulder because the game doesn’t want me to go that way

[@llObscurell]

Take a shot everytime someone says “do better, be better, you can do better. We need to be better”

[@ASR-Ansori]

1:47 "To take a character as brutal as Kratos and give the monster what he's always been missing: a heart." Less than two minutes in and this review rapidly disappoints... Like, come on, just say you haven't played the old GoW games and we'll get it, but don't say Kratos didn't have a heart back then because that is a lie of mythical proportions, only spread by journalists that never played past games and forget damn near all those entries received as high (or higher) acclaim as the 2018 one. I do agree that this game is overall largely overrated, though.

[@marcusclark1339]

yeah the narrative of "suddenly deeper" is so annoying, shows how the rhetoric of last game has ruined any thought on the brand

[@KnucklesWTD]

He was definitely a jerk at the very least.

[@theheiken5684]

I miss the epicness, brutality and simple storytelling of GOW 1-3. I miss alone, quite and determined Kratos. I miss the Greek Pantheon who act like actual mythology gods. I miss the big scale boss fights, when we beat 500 meter mountain-sized Titans as a random NPCs, or beat 100 meter giant Zeus and Ares. instead, we get a family drama with tons of unnecessary complicated storytelling. Less brutality, almost a Disney movie level. Most brutal moment in the game is when we hit Heimdall's head like 3 times, it's a fucking QTE from older games. There are 6 people always revolve around Kratos, talks and talks. Completely reduces the scary aspect of Older games, and since they act and talk like a modern day people it completely destroys the Mythology aspect of the game. Designs are lazy and boring. We get a fat drunk Thor and Odin with american accent. Boss fights are extremely boring. You don't do anything except spamming buttons.

[@pysky4u]

“Boss fights are extremely boring” Garm wasn’t boring tho

[@HamonFighter]

To me with the lack of gameplay improvements, the story being not as grand and epic as I personally hoped. 50 hours in, this game felt like a glorifed dlc expansion with new maps to explore.

[@HashBandicoot356]

Weird Reddit quirky dialogue in a setting where it doesn't belong in any way.

[@Cyrusrm7]

@@johncunningham1889 this is especially true about Freyr, since he doesn't really do anything godly until his sacrifice in Raganarok(and even that is unfortunately off screen) he really felt like a random drunk funny dude and not a god.

[@anthonyashby4202]

I think when that guy “scarified” himself on the flying ship I audibly said “who tf is this guy?” The game had no stakes

[@chilly6470]

I'm genuinely bored senseless playing this game. I thought GOW 2018 was one of the best games I've played in years but, I can't be bothered to finish this.

[@jells31]

I'm having the exact same feeling. It's all things considered that make this a dissapointing game. Level design, puzzles, the "Sony cinematic approcah" , no gigantism, no real god of war story, lackluster combat. I could go on..

[@SoloBoardGamingKnight]

The puzzles are killing this game for me. Big time! Don’t get me wrong, I’m a huge fan of puzzles. I love good puzzle design (Zelda, Portal, Tomb Raider etc…) but this is ridiculous. Tedious, boring and frustrating “axe puzzles” that are just not fun. How did this make it past playtesting and no one mention how poorly made they are? No reviews, that I watched, mentioned the tedious and boring puzzles. They are literally ruining this game for me and I’m about to call it quits. Once again, not because they’re difficult but because they’re just plain, boring and tedious. Terrible puzzles.

[@jells31]

@@SoloBoardGamingKnight yeah i find it also strange the bad puzzles arent mentioned. After the angrboda level i was so done with this hallway simulator. In fact, some puzzles arent even puzzles. Like when you have to cross a bridge and just have to lower the chain... like fuckin wot m8. Anyhow, the whole combat is also dumbed down. No more triangle, no more skilltree for the shield. Next to bad puzzles there is also loads of padding and downtime for Kratos... i think ill go play gow 3 again to remind me what a badass Kratos can be.

[@Brewthahood]

I was convinced Kratos would die at the end like in the prophecy they keep on about but he just goes in, slaps up Thor and Odin, nobody dies except Brok who isn’t really a main character. Massive disappointment for me personally. Nowhere NEAR GotY! An some of writing was very cringey.

[@4then12then10]

This video needs more views. GOW Ragnarok is a AAA game with some great story moments, terrible gameplay mechanics and the lazy combat balance. The difficulty spikes appear to be obnoxiously level-gated

[@Bloodsampler17]

Still no gigantic bosses, still fighting same 5 type of creatures entire game. What's new? A Animal Crossing section where you feed your pet and harvest some fruits...Atreus is still the old annoying brat till the end of the game when he became serious somehow. The build up to Ragnarok is reduced by a cheap Odin fight, remember old game where Zeus got transformation, fights, and a bad ass end? ( They could made a Kratos and Thor team up to stop the gigantic "titan" to stop the Ragnarok. But they not even tried...one big gigantic last fight at least; even that Marvel Avengers got that Sentinel at the end. ) This is just walking simulator, mixed with too many cutscenes and the same repeating words "find Tyr", "Ragnarok", "Loki" and other nonsense like you don't know what you do...the Norse mythology got so many creatures, monsters, titans, empowered gods but they missed the point. Instead we got elf insects. The game was decent since they made Atreus a little bit less annoying.

[@pappyslap6239]

honestly atreus was less annoying in the previous for me since that was the point and it was scripted that way. Here he's annoying unintentionally with his cringe ironwood sections and dialogue, hated it

[@jkchannel3149]

Great review! I would blame rushed development for this one, it needs at least one more year considering the pandemic. The last half is like there is nothing else to show now so let's wrap it up.

[@FirstPlace97]

Thanks. I agree. For a big budget game, though, it was pretty good under those circumstances.

[@DullWarlock]

Guess they really wanted that Game of the Year award against Elden Ring

[@deebo6260]

In my opinion god of war ragnarok was overall a great game, but after finishing the game, I realized how many flaws there were, the Angroboda part should not have been that long, also for some puzzles literally 2 seconds after looking at the puzzle your companion literally tells you how to do the puzzle, I literally don’t even get the chance to try the puzzle myself, and the ending honestly felt really rushed it could have been way better and it didn’t even feel like a god of war game. I still think the pros outweigh the cons for me 8.25/10

[@TheAverageGamer6]

Kratos fought Thor and Odin back to back , after the fight with baldur kratos was hurt tired and holding himself up , the game was lackluster

[@pysky4u]

Worth noting that Kratos hadn’t trained for over 100 years compared to Ragnarok Kratos that had been training with Atreus for 3 years. If you hit the gym regular, you’ll know your physical performance is dictated by your frequency

[@marcusclark1339]

game isn't the GOTY, one can say it bluntly, even last game wasn't, liking it doesn't mean it should win the issue for this game is its 50 hours when it should be 20 hours and even then cut the fat of the plot game is average at best game just drags and every time it does it just becomes apparent that the story isn't good story isn't just come cutscenes u like its the some total of it and its pacing and execution which people forget far too often, it isn't a well told story regardless of production values not counting the hand holding nature of it that doesn't trust the player to do anything, that leads to a very boring experience when u are never alone with your thoughts to take in the world or music cause dialogue is every 8 seconds, puzzles mean nothing when they aren't even puzzles but teasers that give the answer right away game is indeed pretentious, it tries so hard to be a movie but it be mediocre if it was cause gaming community has a lower standard than movies, case and point this game the end fight with freya preaching to Odin was cringe and sums up the dynamic of female rep in this game too as overly pure and virtuous to their male counterpart every single time and its cringe once u notice it liking ideas of it doesn't make it good just means u like something bad which is fine given the game's point was broad appeal it would happen but it isn't great even higher difficulties is just dmg sponges and super armor to everyone, just failures of design it shows the low bar of it all, no combat incentives still, no care to weapon play cause no reward for it, just beat enemies, even more button mashing than old era just another brand that lost its identity for "modern audiences" and it sucks its not deeper just melodrama and high production but a far cry to what it used to do well and that audience is screwed if they want that cause nothing does that

[@platnumbreaker]

Such a strong start for such a meh experience lol. They made Boi of War instead of *GOD OF WAR*. This isn't as Good as 2018 and it doesn't even feel like a sequel it feels like something else entirely

[@strictlypineapple9308]

Hard disagree. Feel like it was a good end to the Norse land. Def ganna be another god of war in another land.

[@NerdPixelz]

can't believe im saying it but God Of War 2018 was better than Ragnarok, ragnarok felt rushed in the second half, left more questions than answers and was disappointing when it came to boss battles, they did Thor dirty too. Tbh I wouldn't be too bothered if they left the series to rest for a while now, just throw out a remaster collection of the original games, oh well...

[@strictlypineapple9308]

God of war 2018 had a better story while ragnarok had a better world and bosses. I feel as if it ended fine but this does open for sequels which I’m sure will happen just not in the Norse world

[@cooljool1]

@@strictlypineapple9308 the ending was lame with two poor boss fights and the fights simply weren't as good as 2018 in all honesty. the Baldur fight tops pretty much all the boss fights in Ragnarok with the first Thor fight coming in a close second and the Garm fight in third place.

[@strictlypineapple9308]

@@cooljool1 I just felt like the end was rushed and I was hoping Kratos would use thors hammer.. those are my complaints. I give the game an 8-8.5. Ur opinion isn’t what people think u can have it all u want

[@habadasheryjones]

If we are to consider the game designer (or designers in this case) as the wizard of oz, working behind the curtains of the game pushing buttons and pulling levers to pace the experience out, then I can say without hyperbole that I saw the game designer's hands working behind the curtains too often. While aspects of the story feel like a breathe of fresh air, aspects of the game itself feel archaic in a real non complimentary way. For example I played through the "look in 2-3 spots before you look in the final spot to find the quest item" rigamarole too many times. And once you add 2-3 combat scenarios into between looking for quest item spots you've basically seen the loop of the game. As someone who enjoyed the story miles more than the combat I found myself getting annoyed by this pattern in the game loop. The game locking this story I enjoyed behind more and more bland combat scenarios and bosses that regularly regenerate their health twice during fights.

[@kush6846]

If I’m honest the only gameplay change I wanted was an Fov slider, I hate how close the damn camera is to Kratos’s back.

[@eatanotherzio6811]

They do that so the engine can render properly otherwise the game would shit itself

[@BorderlandsBoy0]

Great game but NOT 10/10.

[@Chiefof16]

It's ironic that there's a difficulty called "Give me God of War"..........That's precisely what I'd say to Santa Monica if I could. "Give me God of War", instead of some linear narrative with so many frickin power-ups and upgrades that it completely overwhelms the gameplay. There is simply no balance. 15 hours into the game, and I feel like I've spent only 25 minutes in battles.....And quit throwing chests at us every 10 feet, trying to make us feel special and excited when it's always just lame crafting loot and a few hacksilver......This game's a 6 out of 10, only because of the great cutscenes.

[@alucard3294]

Did you played the game? Literally the biggest “flaw” if the game is all the filler fights in the middle of a conversation, use all the Loki/Thor moments

[@strictlypineapple9308]

Yeah L take bud. 6/10 for u not anyone with a brain

[@VonDutchNL]

@@alucard3294 OK pony

[@Eking-su3tr]

@@alucard3294 u mean watch the game, cuz tf r u playing. Holding the L stick then waiting for a fukn unskippable cutscene to end every 5 mins.

[@unpingouinsurlabanquise4574]

@@alucard3294 you actually didn't play the game yourself

[@natedawg3654]

This game started at a 10 and finished at an 8. Acting and graphics were amazing. Story and gameplay were just ok.

[@bar20800]

I truly agree the game development was rushed, and turned out bad for the lore, story and mysticism that the previous game had.

[@superduper4820]

Movie-game 😂😂😂😂, no thanks. I need invested gameplay and player agency

[@aginor6487]

I give it a 6/10. Whats sad is that it could have easily been a 10/10 had they done a few things differently. #1- we dont get mjolnir as a weapon- this was the biggest mistake. The hammer should have been key to killing odin, and would have been a general improvement for the game and its replay value. #2- Odin boss fight was generic and underwhelming- Odin is the god of many things because of his vast knowledge, making deception his most commonly used tool in his aresenal. The scrawny elderly form we see him in for most of the game should have been a guise or perceptual distortion to make him appear weak. What should have happened was when we fight him, he drops that illusion and reveals superior asgardian armor, weapons and magic that we have never seen before. That should have been the reason we needed mjolnir to defeat him. #3- underwhelming ragnarok sequence and undelivered plot foreshadowings- the assault on asgard was short and lacking in enemy variety. so many concepts and possibilities were teased and introduced without being expanded upon. For example, surtr doesnt do anything at ragnarok. What was the point of freeing him if theres no tangible payoff? Why didnt loki get to touch the infinite knowledge with that mask odin had? I feel like the devs just got lazy at the end, like they didnt feel like programming these things in because they had already “succeeded”. Very disappointing.

[@alucard3294]

You blame the Odin fight as “generic and underwhelming” but you said that Mjolnir should have been the key to defeat Odin? What a stupid take lmao, and yeah, the whole plot is not doing what your destiny says you should do, that’s why Loki breaks the mask, don’t eat the “you’re fated to this moment” from Odin, take a break and read again to review something with consistency

[@aginor6487]

@@alucard3294 yeah the whole game was generic and watered down actually, especially the combat, which is why if thats the route they wanted to take they should have programmed in more useable weapons like mjolnir. Whole game was a cash grab they knew they could capitalize on with 2018 gow’s success. Ragnarok is basically a stripped down, bloated version of 2018 with shittier combat. I finished the Odin fight like lol im not playing through this shit again

[@alucard3294]

@@aginor6487 Imagine playing +15 hours and saying "not playing through this shit again" lmao

[@FirstPlace97]

You have some interesting ideas. I definitely agree that the actual event of Ragnarok itself felt like some generic on the rails mission out of any other semi-open world game. It felt kind of like a Ghost of Tsushima mission. Odin's fight could have been better/harder, considering you had 2 AI helping you.

[@strictlypineapple9308]

Those three complains especially that dumb ass first one dropped it to a 6? That’s actually criminal my boy

[@邱俊融]

SPOILERS!!! Wonderful and well-articulated review. I agree to almost your every opinion, but i have more things to nag about. Their depictions of Odin and Thor are unique and wonderfully made. By humanizing Thor, that one looming threat since the end of last game, and making him emotionally vulnerable to line up with Kratos' growth as a father, is great writing. But I feel like Odin killing him makes Thor's arc end immaturely and abruptly. Don't get me wrong, I think Odin is absolutely that kind of man who'd kill his child if they outlive their usefulness. But I can't help but think that scene can be handled better and deliver a more satisfying conclusion to Thor. As for Odin, he is depicted as a manipulative man with his way to words and schemes. His mouth's quick but his brain's quicker. That's why I think him breaking disguise and stabbing Brok is kinda forced. ( Though I think Sindri's reaction to Brok's death is really well done, my favourite character arc in this game.) Odin should've had other tricks up his sleeves, not a dagger. And the Odin boss fight is kinda a letdown as well, just a overblown mage fight. No way near the spectacle of 2018's Baldur fight. Also, they've been hinting Kratos' death since last game, and a portion of conflict between him and Atreus in this game stems from this prophecy. But Kratos has never been any where NEAR death in this game. It's especially odd since other prophecy all came true(Atreus saving moon, Heimdall's death, Surtr becoming Ragnarok). Even if they never planned to kill off Kratos, there should've been a perilous scenerio to address this and make audience THINK he's gonna die. There was a internal discussion in the studio about whether the Norse saga should be 2 or 3 games. They ultimately set for 2, so i think that's why story towards the end feel somewhat unbaked. They worked under a tight deadline and COVID, and the rest of the Norse saga was too big to fit into one game. But as you mentioned in the video, if they streamlined the story and made room for the plot development I've mentioned, instead of letting characters going back and forth sprinkled with walking down time that is a bit too long for my taste, the story of Gow Ragnarok could have been phenomenal.

[@FirstPlace97]

Thanks for watching. I definitely agree that Thor's death happened abruptly without any catharsis, but maybe that was the intent to show how Odin is really the author of everyone's pain. I do wish they gave him a bit more time before he just faded into nothing. Also definitely agree that it was weird that the Kratos death was in the back of our minds and they just decided to rewrite that without any consequence. I feel like this game is similar to Uncharted 4. Still great but I expected them to be more daring. Certain aspects may be debatable , though, but that's my view and I'm sticking to it.

[@66ALDARIS]

Agreed, I thought the exact same things

[@OwlScowling]

I definitely agree with a lot of this. First, I just wanted to say they wrote Odin really well and Richard Schiff blew it out of the water with the voice acting. But you're right that there's so many spinning plates in the last part of the game that just sort of fall. There's a moment after Surtr agrees to sacrifice himself and Kratos goes, "Oh wait this seems too easy, Odin knew we'd be going to Surtr." And there's no payoff. I mean, they get attacked by some Valkyries but it just seemed like a shoehorned boss battle since there needed to be a boss after a major story beat. So I don't know why they opened up the possibility of Surtr being a trap, since that was in the back of my mind even after Ragnarok kicks off. I agree that Odin revealing himself as Tyr felt a little forced. It also brings into question: Since Odin can't be in two places at once, didn't anyone notice Tyr disappearing for large stretches of time? It just seems like a weird plothole. The story is largely really great and it is extravagant in its production. But it falls a little flat to me since what I largely liked was the story, and the combat, puzzles, etc. are all a little underwhelming.

[@davidmichael9275]

No no no no NO! Soy boy comments like that are why we get crappy games like this. I don't want to see Kratos cry or be a bitch. I don't even want to see him act human. He's the God of War. 2018s GoW hinted at Kratos evolving but didn't allow it. That's why the game could remain great while expanding on the lore and characters. Thor too. Thor mercilessly killed all the giants, and more. You want him to be a gender studies major. Ugh. I'm gonna stick around for Ghost of Tsushima 2, but if you sissies ruin that too, I'm done with games.

[@joelh90]

I’m struggling to even get through it. Playing it on a slightly harder difficulty just to challenge myself so i dont finish it to quick, but im finding it boring. Boss’s are easy as but they’ll just be some cheap any move off a random basic enemy that will 2 shot u. I dont like games that adjust difficulty in this way. Make it technically difficult not cheap. Also i think after games like elden ring have been released this is so basic.

[@fab137]

I disagree with the story being all that great at all, the whole general, brainstorm of ideas is simply nothing spectacular, from Thor's character being lackluster, to Odin being a boring villain, the pieces set in this game disappoint. Which is a shame since it could've been so much more, even exclusively talking about characters, Loki/Atreus was played as safe as you could've done it, for someone destined to be a "Trickster God", the writers didn't do anything too interesting. I understand the point was to show how well Kratos is raising him, and not to say they should've made him a complete villain, but that dark side of him from the last game, feels completely dropped here, he has a teenage tantrum, that's about it.Why not make him have a twisted thrill about lying to his father, why not, instead of an open vocal confrontation and the leaving, why not give Atreus more slickness, completely tricking his dad(a lot of the story would need to change ofc), more ambition towards the mask would've been amazing too, he snapped it in half like it was nothing, he's just a really really good boy! The conflict he has with Kratos is fine but also extremely cookie cutter? and not to be too overly critical about it, but, is yet another one of those stories where if characters communicated with each other a bit better, half of it doesn't happen... and you can say it works and I'd agree, since Kratos is not a great talker and has his traumas, but even so, if you wanted to explore Kratos, the man that genocided a whole pantheon out of pure rage and thirst for revenge, this is not what I personally would've expected, and it all comes down to what the main focus of this game was, which is a father-son bonding story. I think that's where it excels undoubtedly, all the interactions with Kratos and Atreus are great! HOWEVER, and this is a huge however, this concept doesn't work with Kratos, what the writers are basically asking from the player, is to be "apologetic" and sympathetic towards someone who doomed countless of innocent lives(Each God he killed doomed the entire greek world in some way) and that's simply an impossible task IF what you want is this "modern" feeling of growth and development, and the tone of the previous trilogy is why it crashes all these intents down. This redemption doesn't feel owned, and you can give winks about it all you want, like Heimdall calling him a monster or the clear fear Odin has, all great details, but those little things don't help at all if at the end, you intent to emotionally manipulate the audience with the message of "Kratos finally being accepted as a God and having friends", that feels awful, NOT because is impossible to pull off, but because your story is not grounded on the morals of that culture and time. If that aspect was still present, then sure. This two new games don't have that brutality of ancient times, and I'm not saying there weren't good people back then, but the morality of these characters is simply too "unmessy" and it completely fails to capture that atmosphere, and you can trash the narrative of the old games all you want, the writing wasn't great in those, but, they worked out that aspect better imo(not too mention the dialogue too, some lines from this games are baffling), and again, not to say that they didn't go overboard sometimes, but this new part of the story needed a bit of that darkness, that edge. That insistent need of wanting to make Kratos relatable is so strange considering who he is in this story, he's doing good deeds now, he did good deeds in Greece too but even so! I'm just shocked how people eat up the direction they're giving him, not sure if it's because most only have a general idea of what went down in greece, I mean, Ragnarok gave a solid quick recap this time, why not do the same in 2018 in some sort of way? I think I know why... because no matter how much time has passed, with context, this new trajectory for Kratos is nothing short of strange and doesn't work in my opinion. His development feels not completely clean and white, I guess he's still a killer here too, but also not gritty enough, Kratos should be a tortured individual, a man who now, thanks to Atreus, has something nice to live for, like Thor said, he's looking for a clean slate, but no matter how nice you put it, he killed millions, would a legend or myth from those times be this apologetic about the redemption of such a character? sure, but this game is clearly not set in times with those kind of morals, and for that, imo, the WHOLE core of these games narrative is flawed and not amazing.

[@cashflowking5241]

Facts

[@77-7-]

well said

[@FirstPlace97]

I think what you said is really good. I differ in that I think that Odin was pretty well written and acted. I liked how he was a weak old man, fueled by paranoia and fear. And he is rather cunning with more than a few tricks up his sleeve. Could he have been darker? Sure, but I like how he had a little humanity in him and they tried to empathize with him a bit. A lot of the Atreus/Loki trickster potential was teased and they abandoned it. Kratos becoming the God of Peace is interesting but it does sort of happen suddenly. It's a good message, though.

[@cooljool1]

@@FirstPlace97 i think that he wasn't threatening enough. cunning and well acted yes but not threatening. he needed to be that

[@quantumnews2465]

"Exploration" is supposed to be fun. It's just frustrating in these games because it's so limited in movement.

[@Jewce24]

Everything you’ve said in the video is what I felt overall. With all the climbing sections and the crouching-through-small-space sections, I thought Ragnarok suffered because of this. There were definitely parts of the game that could have been cut or shortened to save time. The more I play, the more I wish certain things were different like the dialogue and pacing. I wish the game didn’t play it too safe and tried to go another direction narratively. This honestly felt like a marvel movie with all the quips and jokes. I loved Mimir in the first game, but I find that he talked too much in this one. Even the devs said they loved him in the first game so they decided to make him have more dialogue in this one. Ultimately Ragnarok is evidence that bigger doesn’t always mean better, and it’s far from perfect.

[@bipolarexpress9827]

That’s a well written comment. Bigger isn’t always better.

[@Jewce24]

@@bipolarexpress9827 Thank you for the kind words. I’ve had my thoughts on the game for a while and have been looking for anyone who have similar criticisms as me because the game is definitely not a 10/10 as some outlets and reviewers have stated. It’s disappointing to see.

[@kush6846]

GoW 2018: Less is more GoW Ragnarok: Bigger isn’t better

[@strictlypineapple9308]

@@Jewce24 yeah but he still gave it a 9. It’s a great game. Just wish it could have been better that’s why I hope for more sequels in the future which is definitely possible

[@cooljool1]

@@strictlypineapple9308 9 is too high for it. 7 at best

[@PaulM68322]

I have to disagree with calling the story great, the character acting and the development (maybe not in all cases) is great, but the story is poor, very poor in my opinion, the only emotion I felt playing this game was a genuine feeling of fear and dread pleading in my mind that this wasn't all there was to the story right before the credits rolled walking down the hill. The story starts extremely slow, particularly Atreus in Jotunheim with Angrboda, but even if things are boring I appreciate it when it's building story and relationships..... however the story goes balls to the walls 100 miles an hour rushing to its conclusion. We get to see the birth of Jormungandr...but the next time we see him (that version) is at Ragnarok, we meet Surtr, he doesn't want to join us......but in the same scene, seconds later... he joins us. Freyr goes to Alfheim for 20 minutes and the years of elf conflict just ends? Then he dies and I'm supposed to care? The theme of 'fate not being inevitable' has been done before and I don't think they did anything to make it feel impactful... when and how exactly did fate change? I was super dissapointed, heartbroken in fact that the actual lore of Norse Myth didn't come to pass either, I (stupidly) thought that all the events would happen but 'fate being tricky' as quoted by Mimir would mean things don't play out as we suspect them to like Baldur and the mistletoe. But we got nothing, no Thor being killed by Jormungandr, no Odin killed by Fenrir, not Skol and Hati eating the sun and moon, no Surtr and his wife fusing,no Kratos death or fake out date etc...... not only do these events not happen, it's like they're ignored altogether, we don't get some big moment of fate being changed... the just dont happen? The end of the first game was Kratos seeing (what he thought was) his death and accepting it.. this game while acknowledging it just throws it all away We even don't get any fan fair of Jormungandr going back in time, it just happens in the background for reasons??? What was the point in Fenrir? Just the easy answer as to how they escape Asgard, Skol and Hati are just day night cycle mechanics, Surtr just a plot device. So so so dissapointed in this story, they should have made a trilogy and fleshed the story out

[@FirstPlace97]

Yeah, I can understand where you're coming from. But certain aspects of the story are well told visually and in nuanced ways. The plot does stumble a bit, though.

[@dirtydan9728]

Either that or just made the game longer. Should’ve delayed it longer honestly. I was so hyped for this game and I did enjoy it (played 60 hours this past week) but like when the credits were playing I just felt disappointed and felt like that couldn’t be all of it. Disappointing

[@kenshin391]

I’m a huge GOW fan and a Mythology buff and I’m VERY!.. disappointed in how they did this story for the Norse realm. We didn’t get to see certain characters when we went into their realm TWICE!… is unacceptable and the way they handled the ones you did see was terrible like Thor. My worse fear about this game happened and I knew it would because of only 2 games and they were rushing to get out of the Norse realm for some reason. I’m highly disappointed and for all the people who have it a 10 are either SHLLS!.., getting paid by Sony or know nothing of the the Mythology.

[@caidenmodlin2213]

Nothing of the mythology. You act as if any of the God of War games have been Mythologically accurate you idiot

[@alucard3294]

Like who? Hel? Bragi? Skadi? Almost all the major gods appeared

[@strictlypineapple9308]

Relax bud the KZbinr here that u think apparently agrees with u gave it a 9. They did Thor really well a drunk destroyer. Odin is just a smart man. The first game was phenomenal so this is a god of war game bud not let’s focus on every Norse God. They showed the major ones bad complaints dude

[@cooljool1]

@@strictlypineapple9308 a drunk destroyer isn't a good look. the intoxication angle was not necessary and it didn't improve on Thor's character. Odin wasn't a threat. over-curious yes, but not threatening

[@strictlypineapple9308]

@@cooljool1 what do u mean improve on his character? That’s how he is in the mythology my guy

[@DoggoWillink]

God of Puzzles: Ragnarok (rated E for everyone).

[@Owen-sx4jj]

No stakes No spectacle No epicness except first Thor fight and garm and nidhogg but comparing to previous installments this is sigh. Combat takes 2steps forward then 2steps back which equal no improvement at all. No Ragnarok Just more of mocap acting American accents Missed opportunity on lore Score: 6-7 out of 10

[@corygibson3304]

I've said it before and I'll say it again. A good game that plays extremely safe and doesn't do anything to push the boundaries as an innovative games. It'll be a footnote in the God of Wqr Franchise and truthfully leaves me worried where this franchise it's going.

[@frogglen6350]

3:29 Well that's kinda wrong because I focused way more on doing random side quests which led to be killing monsters and mini bosses and finding hidden optional areas, than I have focusing on the story.

[@FirstPlace97]

Definitely is worth spending some time doing side stuff in between main missions, which is how I played. But, a lot of people will still end up skipping a good chunk of it, especially since backtracking after the story is required for a good bit of it, which to me says they want you to get the main story out of the way more than anything.

[@noname_noname_]

I skipped the side stuff so I can have new things to discover when NG+ drops and I got disappointed with the combat and story. I'm still planning to hop in when NG+ drops. I just hope that they would add stuff worth coming back to. Some armors including the God Armor from GoW2 and the Fur Cape from the opening would be great. An option to play as Loki in some open world sections, since his story missions are limited in linearity. I really liked his combat including his leg sweeps, finishers, runic attacks, etc.

[@saltygamer8435]

Finally someone said it, after seeing the perfect reviews i thought i was the only one dissapointed about this game

[@gmorkins6006]

This game bored me so bad by the end, what a disappointment.

[@acgstudios2492]

I slick like ratchet and clank more, but I give credit to the God of War team they know how to make a good story, but yet again there's more to a game than story too. I liked God of War 3 more than God of War 4 and 5. Truthfully I don't like the daggum camera angles either I feel like they tried to to hard to make every fight to feel personal give me the old camera view so I can whoop butt like the old ones.

[@GTAVREB]

My opinion here, the fact that there is no camera angles and we still so close to Kratos/protagonist field of view messed up in here, if we could get certain cuts, cinematic like, maybe it could help a lot Forgive my awful grammar

[@roshdave8997]

I am not sure if I liked the 2018 one or the 2022 one better The expectations that were created in 2018 game for the next part were not totally met GoW Ragnarok is a good game but i think they tried to squeeze so much of content and forcing the story completion which led to many unanswered questiond. In my opinion, they could have expanded the back story of certain characters like Faye, Heimdal, Surtr etc. And the main plot about the mask/ rift was just a waste of time as nothing important revelations came out of it

[@mycelium1456]

Ye true Im In the same boat I 100 percent it in 49 hours on balance I'm about to leave ironwood on my gmgow playthrough rn and I'm kinda liking it better on my second playthrough. I 100 percent 2018 8 times so I gotta beat this a few more times to get a fair comparison.

[@Dass_Jennir]

I overall preferred the first one mainly due to the pacing. Although I agree that it is disappointing that the rift subplot ultimately led to nowhere (especially considering they hyped a lot the idea that there were other pantheons around like the Celtic and Egyptian, I thought they would use the rift to introduce them), in the end, I thought it added a lot to Odin's character and motivations.

[@Vortexnicholas]

If it wasn’t for the bad pacing and some of the dragged out Atreus missions I would’ve gave this game a 100/100. The story had a Witcher 3 type pacing to it with a mcu feel to it.at times it didn’t mix well together

[@noname_noname_]

I loved atreus' combat, but his missions barely had enemys and filled with dialogues and cutscenes.

[@akkibajaj705]

Bad pacing in what way?

[@kush6846]

@@akkibajaj705 for me it’s too slow. Best part of the game was fighting Thor in the beginning, but that’s an hour and half into the game after you chase Kratos’s son. The Alfheim section with Tyr was complete filler. The Vanaheim section with Freya, The Jotunheim part with Angrboda. Rinsing and repeating missions with Atreus by following the light of the mask with a companion. Having i’d say 4-5 combat scenarios and then leaving is how they all played out, it got repetitive.

[@FitnessGuru91]

I liked the combat of Atreus but felt like he was an idiot. Also to much talking, though I did enjoy the characters.

[@cooljool1]

@@noname_noname_ the combat was shit

[@RosuVT]

This game's gameplay is quite literally the exact same as the 2018 one. It's a shame because there was a lot of promise on that gameplay as a base, but they actively made it worse by making the game vastly easier and hold your hand even more. Also the story gets progressively more and more forced and drags on for way too freaking long. The ending too, when Feyr dies and Angrboda appears literally out of nowhere is so outrageously bad.

[@mufasa744]

Bruh where’s the fucking loot? And side missions don’t really tie in and not as incorporated in the game if you know what I mean. The game is ok but it’s just a little disappointing it’s not as in depth as 2018.

[@Nightlizard1564]

How does she appear out of nowhere when she’s literally riding a wolf that’s able to open a realm between realms 💀. On top of that the combat of the game is a huge improvement from the last game. Sure some things might be the same but at least they incorporated some moves from the skill tree into your moveset.

[@RosuVT]

​@@Nightlizard1564 "How did you get here" "Giant Stuff" Yeah super explained. Also, having more moves doesn't fix anything, it's not an improvement, it would be like taking a car that has 4 gears that can go up to 80mph and making a new version of it with 6 gears without changing the 80mph limit of the engine - It's the same fucking shit.

[@Nightlizard1564]

@@RosuVT once again she’s riding a wolf that’s able to tear between the realms so that itself is explained enough. On top of that by that dumbass logic u can say that almost every sequel to a game is the exact same shit. I can bet u a 💯 if the new spider man game was released u be saying the same exact thing. The combat is somewhat the same but it does show improvements in a lot of areas including the new spear. At this point it’s not even criticisms your just finding bullshit reasons as to why u dislike the game in general

[@RosuVT]

​@@Nightlizard1564 The Spider Man games are a terrible example because the combat of the game is fucking awful - from 1 to 2 it didn't change a single thing and didn't fix any of it's issues, and is just as railroaded as god of war. And no, good sequels don't just "add more of the same shit" take Dark Souls to Dark Souls 3 for example, if you say it's the exact same shit you are actually on some sort of drugs. Having more of something isn't an improvement, and God of War does not improve the combat at all, it actively makes it a joke and a chore to go through. And regarding Angrboda, I want you to tell me when is it implied that: 1. Garn can teleport between realms without any problem (It is said he EATS realms, not teleporting freely); 2. Angrboda knows how to control that power without any problem; 3. The game still doesn't explain it afterwards even though it goes out of it's way to explain and contextualize the majority of things that happen on the main story; You can cope all you want but this game done nothing to correct the problems it had in 2018, and now that the game is much bigger, the problems are exacerbated and at full display - Boring Combat, railroading, obnoxious equipment system, 90% of enemies are just damage sponges to be stunlocked, no incentive to experiment, no incentive to try the harder difficulties, no actual challenge on said harder difficulties. The game has good things but if you want to ignore all of this and say I'm "bullshiting" to dislike it then you actually are insane.

[@its_vintage2601]

The first act of the game was fucking amazing, the middle 10 hours were a fuckin SLOG dude. Last act was good but really terribly underwhelming considering it's the end of the fucking world

[@strictlypineapple9308]

If u didn’t pay attention which u might not have ragnarok is not the end of the world but just the end of Asgard which is an attack on Asgard not the world so it’s not like Kratos is stopping that just making it happen to Asgard

[@cooljool1]

@@strictlypineapple9308 it was still underwhelming for what it was. two poor boss fights is all you get. Baldur's fight in 2018 was far better. Ragnarok is a major event and not having it being shown so even if it was local to Asgard wasn't a good take

[@strictlypineapple9308]

@@cooljool1 Asgard literally got destroyed there and their leader and soldiers were killed. What do u mean

[@strictlypineapple9308]

@@cooljool1 and the game isn’t just the Ned sequence it was more than 2 boss fights.

[@strictlypineapple9308]

@@cooljool1 what did u want marvel Thor? Like he is literally known as a drunk destroying God my boy

[@heavenlyweather117]

I personally love the game but i respect a critical review as long as is well articulated and not agenda driven

[@SuntoryKick]

Very fair and well articulated critique of the game. I think a lot of my opinions align with yours but the only real difference is ultimately some of the improvements that Ragnarok made resulted in me liking it more than 2018 overall. I think my main issues with Ragnarok are the pacing and lack of combat improvements.

[@FirstPlace97]

Thanks. I suppose it does improve in some aspects of the combat. But yes, the pacing could have been better. I think it's kind of a safe installment overall and that's why I don't put it in the highest of echelons.

[@FitnessGuru91]

@@FirstPlace97 Yea I do not agree with you that the combat did not improve. I enjoy it more than the last game and feel you have more options, almost to many that you forget you have it. Also the higher difficulties definitely make a different for combat. Also the companion AI and enemy AI is quite amazing.

[@cooljool1]

@@FitnessGuru91 your options are pretty limited actually. you end up fighting the same monsters over and over again, not unlike 2018. the higher difficulties don't improve the sluggish and messy combat

[@jiren6346]

@@cooljool1 I think the same, I got bored of fighting the same pack of enemies in ragnarok, and the gow 2018 combat is better by far, more perfected and just enough, in ragnarok I almost limited myself to using the same runics and attacks because I was overwhelmed by how many there are attacks now (and less effective and rewarding) also because the enemies now do not stop when finishing a combo with a strong attack ..? Or that they can kill you while you launch a runic that takes at least 3 seconds.-.

[@cashflowking5241]

As a long time God of War fan this game is like a 7/10. The plot and the set pieces were very underwhelming. I would rather play every mainline God of War before this again. Is it terrible? No. Did they hit a bullseye? Absolutely not. Anyone who thinks this is a 10/10 is either payed like IGN or hasn't actually played a 10/10 game before.

[@j2015austin]

I beat it in a couple of days. Sad that most of the game was underwhelming only a few bosses were good the mini bosses were more of a challenge.

[@cashflowking5241]

@@j2015austin how bad were the final 2 bosses like dayum made me realize how badass of a final boss Zeus was

[@mattcollins3591]

Guess I’m an idiot because I gave it a ten out of ten then. Never understood the people who are like “iF you ThiNk itS A TEn Out of Ten yOuVe NEver PlayED a GaMe bEfore” … bullshit. It’s nominated for more game awards than any other game right now and has sold like hotcakes since it came out last week. Just because you’re underwhelmed doesn’t mean everyone else is.

[@cashflowking5241]

@@mattcollins3591I guess you are then

[@mattcollins3591]

@@cashflowking5241 I would love to know what game you would give a 10/10 to lol 😂

[@angeloenrico432]

Gameplay wise imo os better than 2018's even though it's roughly the same but the story man wow (Spoilers down) Like it's said in the video the pacing is not the best but that didn't bother me much as I looked forward for Ragnarok hell it's the title of the game isn't it. Then when it finally comes is repetitive, rushed and it doesn't feel like a true ending to the whole game which for me personally was 10/10 until the actual end mission. Not only that but the fact that they tossed the hours spent in the Atreus' missions to find the parts of the mask by just destroying it and not even showing us what it would happen if he wore it.

[@angeloenrico432]

These things put me down so much that I couldn't actually get to enjoy Kratos' conclusion and resolution. After watching it again it truly hit me. Atreus going away to find the giants had a bittersweet taste but it was necessary so Ragnarok itself was the issue not the characters development

[@cooljool1]

@@angeloenrico432 the story is piss poor and as you said the end mission is a dud. the best part was the thor fight and the Garm fight/chase was decent too

[@nathanpeters9348]

I completed GOW 2018 and I'm about 10 hours into Ragnarok. I really enjoyed GOW 2018. The story and combat was great. But my biggest problem with GOW 2018 was the slow pace of the game and the lack of exploration. The main objective of any game should be providing a fun and entertaining experience. GOW 2018 imo was a mixed bag. There were epic moments of intense combat but most of the game was boring and restrictive. The game's main focus was the story and the relationship between Kratos and Atreus. There were alot of cinematic cut scenes to convey the story, which is fine, but it does feel like you are watching a movie instead of playing a video game. You also spend alot of time traversing from one place to another on the map but yet the exploration is limited. The game feels restrictive in where you can explore. Its a very linear game that tries to give you the illusion of being an open world game. I personally prefer open world exploration games like Horizon Dawn and Ghost of Tsushima over more linear games. Ragnarok is a little better than GOW 2018 in this regard but I can't help but feel like there is a lack of exploration. Overall, GOW 2018 was a solid game and Ragnarok has been good so far but these games are a little too overhyped imo.

[@Frozengimbap]

I understand some people like these sorts of games because they can enjoy it while playing with their kids. But am I the only one that got a copy of Twisted Metal Black when they were ten? 😂 Man having older brothers was awesome. If your dad ever bought you games like that too, then you have an awesome dad.

[@plainsg]

7/10 for me a lot of issues with the story ... I was expecting smthg different but still great action game

[@Lilmexicansamurai]

👏🏻agree👏🏻 I feel its more of a story for the Gen Z’rs

[@kerushun]

The game takes long to get going, and, yet, the ending also felt rushed. It all tied up too conveniently. The story was disappointing, and there were very few answers to questions raised by the first game. The world serpent had just two scenes. And who blew the bloody horn??

[@mpourdelo1245]

kratos

[@daniel_svk]

Cory balrog said in a interview that time travel will be a massive thing in the upcoming game. But i think they gave up on time travel in the final script hence there wasnt any time travel in Ragnarok. So its possible that their first idea was to Kratos time travel and blow the horn

[@kerushun]

@@daniel_svk there was also talk of delving into how Thor and Kratos have similar backgrounds etc, but Thor is hardly in the game and his death felt meaningless. I wonder if they cut out a lot of stuff in general.

[@daniel_svk]

@@kerushun I agree. There were meant to be huge twists but they gave up on it

[@77-7-]

even tho i i like it, that whole ironwood section should've been shorter

[@coolvell7528]

I hope I don't get roasted for this but God of war prior ..was way better..this one was cool at best ..

[@braddillon4311]

It was better. Honestly, I felt like the first game was too short. This game was too long but yet felt rushed at the very end. They should have just made it a trilogy.

[@eatanotherzio6811]

Lol the music literally sounds like Gears of War

[@sdHansy]

I really liked the OG GOW games, but these latest ones are just, like I saw someone else post in another video, interactive B-movies.

[@tylerwagner1978]

Personally I loved the exploration and combat. The exploration was one of the best aspects of 2018 and this is improved and built on here. Also the combat is more fluid and feels better overall.

[@cooljool1]

the combat is more sluggish and clunky. its worse in this version. not sure what you were playing there. The "exploration" was mostly filler for a poor main story

[@tylerwagner1978]

@@cooljool1 most side content in games are filler technically. They at least added depth to the world or characters. And the combat is fun with the new choices thrown in.

[@HanniSeidenba0525]

Honestly, I didn't expect anything from this game, to become a worthy sequel or greatest god of war game or anything. I barely glance at it and play it just to know what is what. And this game is really really boring. Except for epic ost and fascinating cutscene.

[@strictlypineapple9308]

The way u phrase this is as if he didn’t just give it a 9/10. It’s def not boring. It picks up after the dwarves area.

[@HanniSeidenba0525]

@@strictlypineapple9308 I didnot say it boring in general. Gameplay is boring in general. Cutscenes are the main reason I stay and that was that. I like the story, the lore, the art direction. I'm sorry if I hurt your feeling, but the gameplay is very boring.

[@strictlypineapple9308]

@@HanniSeidenba0525 hurt my feelings? Is that ur response to like make it seem like I just cursed u out. And gameplay is what is fun the combat is fun. Some level are just thrown enemies but the fighting is satisfying. Especially the boss fights

[@HanniSeidenba0525]

​@@strictlypineapple9308 I share my point of view and you try to deep analyze to protect your aspect. What for? If you adore this game such much, it's good and it's good for you. Enjoy it. Still, there are many many other options on the menu and this is not my taste. Go on with your day bro. Let people like what the like.

[@strictlypineapple9308]

@@HanniSeidenba0525 ur commenting under a KZbin video talking about his opinion but when someone responds to u ur shocked? Why? Also u missed to pout in my opinion this game is very boring.

[@YEY0806]

The biggest issue is the lack of pay-off. For example, Kratos's prophecy that he will die is never a concern nor brought up ever again, we never get answers about the mask, which makes the Asgard sections feel all for nothing. I also found this game as well as 2018 to be contraindictary in its message about fate as Kratos and his allies talk constantly about the importance of not letting "Fate define your life." This is fine, but the issue is that it's not true because Kratos and Atreus's actions only lead to fulfilling prophesies, even INTENTIONALLY, because it's very evident that prophecy is always on their side. So Kratos and Atreus are happy to follow the exact lines of their prophecy because it benefits them in the end, even though the story confirms prophecies aren't real or powerful because they can be easily diverted without characters having to complete some perilous task. This brings into question why Odin and anyone would take prophecies so seriously if they can be so easily avoided that it makes "Fate" barely important. The fact that the story doesn't point out this irony confirms that the writers genuinely made the mistake of "making a cake, but eating it too" because what the themes are really saying is that "prophecy only matters when it benefits you, but if it doesn't then screw it because we can just decide not to do it." The main characters are all about breaking Fate but end up as nothing BUT the agents of Fate, which is also not serious because it can be broken easily.

[@captainkirk9691]

Still a great game yes over hyped especially with the entire doomsday plot, and I still prefer 2018s god of war.

[@lorddragonya]

The game just wasn’t epic like ragnarok should be

[@KW-yr2tr]

I don't know. The game has technically everything, but somehow it just doesn't make sens... And everything repeated over and over and over. Even the graphics. You have a boss fight. You can't win because he can fly, attack from distance, send missiles... Oh, and he's got friends that do the same. What a fun idea to ruin fun. To be honest fights are fun, from time to time, but it was more interesting to see the plans coming together, development of this story etc. I'm not saying that the story wasn't a little bit bad (especially stories with that little sh1t), but it was more interesting than those fights. Seriously, you need a bigger weapon to kill the beast, but to get that weapon you need to kill a beast, but you can't kill that beast because you need to kill a beast which you can't kill because you don't have power... Skills are pretty shit and overhyped rage is doing absolutely nothing to anyone. Rage in Dead island 1 was awesome, here, I don't even use it because it costs you life during fights and you don't even damage enemies. I mean you do, even kill them, but those ones you can damage with rage you cane easily kill with arrows. What is the point of it? Runic abilities... Maxed out... It creates massive this or massive that. Weak enemies die anyway, bosses don't even notice. The hell?? These fights were supposed to be fun. Where is fun in this when you know its pointless? 60 hours in and I can't anymore. This game should have been over at least 20 hours ago but I'm only 75% in. How do you finish this??? And why was this so damn expensive....

[@captaincrunch1707]

Nice commentary, will definitely enjoy this some day but I’m not feeling the $70 price tag for a CROSSGEN game.

[@FirstPlace97]

Thanks. Yeah, I forgot to mention that $70 is a bit steep. I suppose that if Returnal and Demon's Souls can go for the same, Ragnarok is reasonable at that price, but the fact that it is also on PS4 is a good argument against it.

[@femto9886]

I agree with 9/10 for sure

[@psycbr]

Personally I think it’s best looking game on the ps5. Ironwood being a huge fault I think is overhyped. Yes yalla is slow at times but there are enemies peppered throughout and you never spend more than a few minutes without engaging in combat.. I’ve also come to like using draupnir a lot more and also playing Atreus can be really engaging with all his slow down time abilities, he has more depth than I gave him credit for during my first playthrough.

[@pauloazuela8488]

The most wtf moment here was the title Ragnarok . I wanted to see what Ragnarok would look like , a war. But hell nah we only see skirmishes instead of army fights. And you know what's ridiculous ?GOW power scalers popping up right after every where making polls vs other fictional characters . They just reminded me of DragonBall power scalers . I read a thread about GOW are fine and don't try to conpare characters of other universe..It aged like milk . Everywhere I go see these polls.

[@Disconnect350]

This feels more like a chore than a video game. Just like GOW 2018 and RDR2. I never finished original God of War 1 and 2, I'd like to play those games instead.

[@serenitynow85]

Ragnarok is a good movie. I wouldn't bother (waste *my* time) playing through it. But it seems like a movie I would enjoy

[@FabzP96]

😂🙏🏼

[@leonardfabian8942]

Elden ring respected me as a player God of war did not at least not this version i love the old games i admire how deep it was without having to be told how deep it was, this game constantly told me how to feel, it was like watching a bad artsy movie, and that's the point if this was a movie critics would be ripping it to shreds, but because its a game its getting praised, also why do we let some mediocre games like this get away with 10/10s when we smash other games for doing the same, after i completed the story i deleted my game no way am i sitting through a shlog of story like this again and i probably never will again.

[@JayWNSG]

Whines about God Of War 2018 locking other realms for travel Also whines that God Of War Ragnarok is bloated and has too much to do WHAT?

[@FirstPlace97]

Both things can be true. The thing is that the stuff you do shouldn't feel tedious. Elden didn't feel this way. Of the new regions, Asgard is great. Vanaheim is good, but there's a lot of filler here and there. For example, copy and paste dragons in the Crater. Some of the other realms were in the first game but with a few new areas. It feels a little like DLC at times rather than a whole new gameplay experience. Still high quality but it isn't the greatest sequel ever made.

[@futureelement924]

@@FirstPlace97 Bullshit

[@nhatbui4027]

Absolutely agree with this idea. Don't call it God of War, because Kratos is God of Peace now. 🤣 There is nothing new in Ragnarok, just like a DLC of GoW 2018. Then, GoW Ragnarok is the most overrate game of 2022.

[@Thonato420]

this game is at my top 3 gow games (gow3>gowr>gow1) but I agree that it ain't 10 out of 10, didn't ask for the game to have goddamn teenage romance simulator sections lol

[@nx3912]

The best part of the new gow games is going back to cleanse your palette with the original trilogy.

[@gibbsu9482]

Is this a review or a comparison to elden ring just to get the point across that elden ring is better

[@FirstPlace97]

Definitely a review of the game itself. The reason I mention Elden in the video, as I stated, was that A) Souls games are an undeniable influence on the gameplay here. B) is I had argued with people on Twitter about Elden being the better game before this game came out, and I stand by that. To me, Elden is a 10 and Ragnarok isn't.

[@artistryartistry7239]

You give away some plot points that were not necessary to give away. For example that Freya becomes a friend again. That plot event has absolutely no place in a review of the game. It's just a flat out spoiler. That's messed up man. Be more careful. Do better.

[@FirstPlace97]

That's somewhat of a spoiler of course, but not a major one considering that most people probably predicted that would be the case. But, usually when I do reviews, I do mention and show some pivotal things because I like to talk about the game in full context. I tried not to talk too much about plot specifics, though.

[@WaitingForDeath-n3b]

The game was a terrible game IMO.

[@strictlypineapple9308]

L

[@rook3364]

I agree overall it is a good game the story line was good but the final battle was ass, it seems to me that they rushed the finale battle I was so disappointed tbh and shock how shitty it was, kratos and Thor was the only good scene for the final battle, kratos vs Odin aka Kratos had a lot of help was so ass it could’ve been way better I thought it would be kratos vs Odin and Kratos show his true power of the god of war to Odin and pound him but nope it was a disappointment. Brok death was fucked up, it would’ve been better when Tyr aka Odin in disguise took the mask at sindri house and kidnapped Atreus infront of kratos and Kratos goes insane and the final battle Kratos overpower Odin like nothing tbh

[@jakedutton5424]

9/10 overall 8/10 writing 7/10 dialogue 8/10 story and development 9/10 world design 8/10 Level design 9/10 gameplay

[@michaelthatoker7125]

7/10 overall 6/10 writing 8/10 dialogue 6/10 story and development 8/10 world design 7/10 level design 8/10 gameplay

[@purshas2788]

this guy is literally just bringing up rings game every five seconds and moaning about everything possible … even about how no loading screens is pretentious. Dont waste your time, youll get no honesty here.

[@FirstPlace97]

The loading screen thing is definitely something to criticize, because although it was interesting to employ in the first game, here it becomes a bit obnoxious and just a gimmick for show. I don't think it improves the game on a technical level. There are faster PS4 games that I've played on my PS5 than Ragnarok.

[@bashirelchamaa2638]

My man was mostly criticizing the game (fairly and I agree) but then said nine out of 10 lmaooo

[@FirstPlace97]

I can see it being an 8. 9 is a high score, but I felt it was probably deserved, but definitely not a 10.

[@Ze_graveto]

elden ring has better combat... lol

[@litplays.ytv3451]

The only thing I liked was the spear😂

[@Brando_1212]

Yeah story just didn’t work as well as the first one imo

[@badassmarauder1980]

Norse mythology,has no match despite the cross over between this game!

[@KnucklesWTD]

It’s a boring game. Even 9 feels too high a bit

[@DraxDestroyed12]

honestly its a good game , but thats it nothing more, overrated in my opinion but a solid 8

[@FaztyKaoz]

not overrated at all, it deserves all the love it has been receiving, already got my platinum and got 100% on everything

[@FabzP96]

You're a fanboy, so of course you'd say that. Elden Ring will undoubtedly beat GOWR this year lol

[@FaztyKaoz]

@@FabzP96 Sounds more like you're the fanboy lol, never said anything about any GOTY, the two deserve an award for how good they are, that's it. Stop crying about it dude. I literally have too a platinum for Elden Ring and I have 500hrs into the game, so yeah, keep quiet please. lol.

[@KnucklesWTD]

No it doesn’t. This game has arguably the worst dialog in the whole series,the bosses are a joke, the game is insanely scripted, the combat is clunky compared to games like Bayonetta and DMC. No way this game deserved a 10/10. Doesn’t even look better than 2018 either.

[@FaztyKaoz]

@@KnucklesWTD You're absolutely joking right? This makes no sense, the game has the best story it has ever had, with a human and matured Kratos that wants to leave violence in the past while taking care of his son. Now there's less skills but for the good because in the past game there was too many skills too soon, new weapon more combos. And of course it's scripted, it's a story based game you clown. Who the fuck says that, what are you telling me DMC and Bayonetta aren't? It's an open world game and you can go do a lot of exploration and you can get more info about other characters stories, like Faye. And wtf why compare Bayonetta and DMC, I'm sorry but are you r e t a r d e d? That's a whole different genre lmao. Combat is almost the same as 2018 and even better it absolutely deserves the 10/10 it got and I've been playing videogames for a long time. Literally braindead take and bad arguments, I'm not a fanboy but yes I do love the game and I'm going to defend it from absolutely stupid arguments like yours at least say something that is logic.

[@KnucklesWTD]

@@FaztyKaoz 2018 already did the mature kratos thing, that isn’t new anymore. The Thor fight was horrible compared to Poseidon in GOW3 and even Baldur was leagues better. The pacing sucks. The gameplay is mediocre. You say it’s a “open world game”, yet said open world is mostly made up of hallways and is extremely restricted. All games are scripted, but this game literally holds your hand like a child. You should at least be able to jump on things,Zelda mastered that in 2018z This isn’t a 10/10. 9/10 is pushing it for the hype it had. And people will realize this game is inferior to 2018 and the trilogy

[@pstriple16]

Your criticisms of the story are valid, but all of the issues you had with the gameplay are the same issues that were present in elden ring

[@FirstPlace97]

Elden bosses are much more dynamic and difficult, even though I will admit that Elden Beast is a bad boss all the way around. The mechanics are much deeper in Elden and that game is closer to being a true RPG than Ragnarok pretends to be. There's inherently more replay value in Elden as well because you can farm certain things, play co-op and NG+

[@easytiger35]

I think there needs to be a middle ground between Elden Ring and GoW type. I have problems with both. I played Elden for hundreds of hours. Im playing GoW a second time thru already. Elden had NO story and bad combat interaction...you swing thru everything like a ghost... and GoW maybe had too much story. But great combat in my opinion.

[@FabzP96]

Both of your opinions for both games, literally make ZERO fucking sense 😂

[@FirstPlace97]

If you played Elden for such a long period, you should have gathered some insight on the game's story by then, even just by doing the quests. As far as middle ground, I feel like that's what Santa Monica was going for, but they needed to take more time in developing that synthesis properly.

[@easytiger35]

@@FirstPlace97 I realize there is a story attempt. You get clues as to the lore of the world youre in. But there is not an immersive narrative at all. Im saying that it fails at the entire idea of "immersion" which is what some game designers would say is the number one goal they are going for. In Edlen Ring, however great it is, lacks any immersion whatsoever.

[@xvimpexgg6853]

I have the same feeling

[@نونيم-ي4ح]

Just few things to clear up ign DID NOT rank GOW 2018 as the best game, it was voted by gamers as the best game of all time. You complain about “cinematic” games yet some of your favs seems to be story heavy games that are extremely heavy on story and cutscenes. You make it sound that the open areas had no content in them just picking shit up and that’s really not the case , some of the best moments and stories in Ragnarok Imo were in these side content and as usual the interaction between the characters makes these segments more fun and interesting. I doubt anyone described the new GOW games as “revolutionary” both games have excellent structure by being linear enough to tell a compelling story with high production value while at the same time having open areas to explore and do some side content that are well designed and engaging, combining these two things is what many games struggle with but GOW 2018/Ragnarok did an incredible job in that regard. It does not have the same depth as Elden ring? I love Elden ring but it had by far the weakest combat in the souls series since dark souls 2, Elden ring was an unbalanced mess especially in the late game, it had no focus with its combat leading to some of the most poorly designed enemies and bosses I have ever seen, GOW Ragnarok was much more focused all enemies and bosses play by the same rules as the player making the combat incredibly challenging and satisfying, unlike Elden ring where it constantly contradicts itself by punishing you for playing a certain build, Elden ring is the prime example as having more variety for the sake of variety will result in a less focused combat compare it to Sekiro and Bloodborne and you will realize how much of a step back it is.

[@playboytoni4926]

you are spitting i was getting so bored of elden ring at the end and I was tired of going to fight the sides bosses and getting the same boss thrown at me some much reused content which is absurd. God Of War Rag was amazing people just love to be different and hate on good games

[@FirstPlace97]

I said in the vid that it was a fan vote. The point still remains that IGN has a lot of silly takes on their site. Whoever the editor is at that site only cares about populism. I think calling GoW one of the very best games is disingenuous, which is why I titled the video this way. I definitely value storytelling in video games as much, if not moreso, than anyone out there. The problem is that video games need to tell story through gameplay as well, like how DMC does, for example. The gameplay should be expressive, an extension of what's happening in the story. Kratos letting out the rage through brutal combat is a good component of that, but the other elements, like walking around aimlessly in search of chests full of crafting items is kind of immersion breaking, especially in a game that is story-driven. It's a weird balance. I don't think Elden is perfect, but it's such a behemoth of an open world, of narrative, discovery and freedom of choice that it deserves being called one of the greats. Perhaps it isn't the most refined in terms of combat, but it definitely offers more variety than BB and their earlier works. I don't agree with you about it being the worst combat they've done. I think Elden has better design philosophy than GoW but I guess I can see what you mean when you say the enemies play fairer. I just think that it's a simplistic approach, and this does not discount the fact that the optional bosses are really inflated because of their HP and not difficult for the sake of requiring strategizing. To me, Elden is the step forward and Ragnarok is kind of a stagnation, so I don't consider it a 10.

[@sdaftermath123]

@@FirstPlace97 it wasn’t just IGN, gamespot gave it a 9 out of 10, gaming bolt gave it a 10 out of 10, and metacritic (about 50 or so reviewers) scored it a 94 out of 100 which is the same exact score as 2018 received. Unfortunately KZbin removed the dislike button so the audience can’t see it, but if I were a betting man, I’d be putting all my chips in on your videos like bar looking like a cigarette that burned all the way to the end without ashing once. The first game was great, and this was even better. You’re really really trying to reach and I’m glad your video took a huge L.

[@DEnextlevel]

Great review

[@FirstPlace97]

Appreciate it. Thanks.

[@akkibajaj705]

You guys rushed the story 😂

[@mattcollins3591]

Lol look at her, she’s different Lol at the only 33 views in over an hour lol😂

[@teddy15790]

Kratos isn't gonna shag you mate, stop simping for him.

[@mattcollins3591]

@@teddy15790 ha GAY