Roar from Beyond (Final Boss) - Xenoblade Chronicles: Future Connected OST [07]

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Game-Rip of the Xenoblade Chronicles: Future Connected Original Soundtrack, composed by Manami Kiyota, and ACE+.
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[@softtaur4200]

Whoever at Monolith thought a boss should have a 15+ second topple: I just want to talk

[@TimBagels]

Gamers: We want topple-locking to remain in the remake **Monkeys Paw curls another finger**

[@weebboi9457]

I just finished the game and I never thought Topple Resist Gems would come in handy for a main story boss. Hit that 32% so many times.

[@dahawke8864]

I didn’t get toppled by the fog king once... I hear people complain about it’s topple a lot though

[@thewizard7886]

Literally got toppled five seconds into the battle and then pummelled by his goons, thanks fog king very cool

[@noivern2315]

Empty Moment 2.0

[@keystone5750]

“If you lose this fight, you’ll be sent back to the main menu” So I’ll also get a bad ending? “Nah”

[@maxrichards3881]

The Arch Shulk never loses the final battle!

[@maxrichards3881]

Tsukiru You prefer having to through an extra half hour before you can do the final boss instead of just doing the final boss? Ok.

[@monadomike7300]

Tsukiru it’s better than losing an hour of progress if the game crashes

[@pizzapoosta]

in both 2 and fc it saves right before the final boss tho. couldnt it just save and not make you reenter your file all because you died?

[@GuardianAngelEatos]

@@pizzapoosta There's probably a good reason for it that has to do with the hardware or something. I can't imagine they would do this without good reason.

[@ttaaccooss1]

This fight is your comeuppance for all the topple-locking you relied on throughout the game.

[@arikaaa69]

False, Topple Locking isn't nearly as viable in FC as the main game

[@maxrichards3881]

@@arikaaa69 Because Chain attacks are gone.

[@sharpsCASF]

@@arikaaa69 OP wasn't referring to FC. Pretty sure they meant Fog King's topple move is karma for topple-locking in the main game.

[@weebboi9457]

How else was I supposed to beat the Level 120 Superboss without Topple Locking?

[@seovania9601]

LMFAO Fog King be like "how does it FEEL getting toppled during forever huh ?!"

[@perphenanolastnamethopls3610]

Shulk really do just be sitting on the floor for about 15 seconds thinking about his life and shit

[@veryexciteddog963]

Just like with Fiora in Colony 9!

[@alejandromoreno6879]

@@veryexciteddog963 And just like that time, all just a bit before all goes down the drain

[@CronTime3D]

“So Future Connected was important to the lore of Xenoblade?” “It always has been”

[@JediWilli]

The recent announcement of the Complete Trilogy Soundtrack has revealed this track's official name being "Roar from Beyond"

[@linkalot7415]

That title goes hard

[@jmej01]

beyond... the sky???

[@ShadowSkyX]

​@@jmej01 beyond the ...rift in the sky

[@bobert221]

Interesting since A's whole speech in the Ark points out how "despite having built the perfect world for themselves, humans yet still desired the Beyond"

[@hyrulewarrior6153]

Listening to this song again after playing Xenoblade 3 makes me realize that the vocal scale at 3:05 is eerily similar to the one in the Moebius battle theme.

[@rhettmitchell]

Ehhh not really hearing that myself but it definitely has a bit of the same vibe

[@JackiW]

Oh yeah! It's a little slower but at x1.2 speed it's definitely there. Spooky. Considering that this "Fog King" can also summon "Fog Knights" in to battle.

[@lk_3099]

It sounds more like a part of the Queen's boss theme, the end part. Around 2:52.

[@windy4566]

Yeah about that moebius thing 💀

[@AstralXen]

​@@rhettmitchell it's the same chord progression as in Moebius battle

[@ZeldaGamer2005]

Now listening to this after 3 came out the vocals kinda remind me of the Mobius battle theme’s vocals.

[@YoshiyaKJ]

We got official track titles!! Finally!!! Anyway this is now called “Roar From Beyond”

[@Magic_Ice]

Ncie

[@pridefulmaster1390]

Roar From Beyond…Beyond The Sky. Takahashi & co are cooking once more 👀👀

[@Birdthefeatheredone]

Here is a bit of my thoughts. Without Zanza, the Telethia have regained a degree of their selves. We know from the base game that transformed high entia Telethia can recall their friends and family to a degree. (Tyrea’s quest, the love triangle, and Teelan). There are also no Telethia you can fight in FC. furthermore, the fog king is distinctly an Infernal Guldo so it is likely that the rift connects Shulk’s world to Alrest/Elysium. The Guldo are mutated humans (not homs) who turned as such after being implanted with prototype core crystals. In this regard, it would make sense the Telethia would have an instant to attack it, like The Endbringer attacked the tainted monsters in X. They are not part of the natural world. However, this does not explain what the connect is to the fog beasts. The Rift seemed to corrupt normal monsters, though how is unclear. The ability to cross dimensions, in the Xenoblade games at least, is currently only possible through the Conduit/Zohar, the Nopon arch sage if you want to count him as canon (which is possible considering the halfsage from Torna may be him) and questionably Professor B’s Mira Mobile. I have not played the older Xeno games and cannot comment on them.

[@eternalequinox6363]

I had some theories about this. The Fog King and its ability to corrupt entities reminds me a bit of they lyrics from Black Tar in X- which, like you mentioned, has the whole Endbringer-Tainted relationship.

[@Birdthefeatheredone]

Eternal Equinox makes me wonder how the Telethia perceive their environments. They were attracted to unique ether waves zanza’s Monado emitted when Shulk met Alvis. Maybe they can recognize unnatural elements based on their ether presence?

[@eternalequinox6363]

@@Birdthefeatheredone That would make sense. I would imagine the Telethia (both 1's and X's) act as almost an Ether immune system, targeting and eliminating ether that emanates from an interdimensional or foreign source. The Telethia in FC basically rush into the Rift and destroy themselves, just like white blood cells- it lines up.

[@drakath5727]

The interesting thing about the Guldo is that it behaved like a Gnosis. Shulk's Monado REX+ not only looked like Pyra's Blade, but with how it created a field that allowed everyone to harm the Guldo, it reminded me of the Hilbert Effect. I'll have to finish watching Xenosaga cutscenes to figure out if my speculation on it being the Hilbert Effect lines up.

[@eternalequinox6363]

@@drakath5727 Ah yes, the flaming jets on the side do look like Pyra's come to think of it.

[@professionalweirdo3391]

I swear to god if they’re about to make the Fog King the most important character in the series I’m going to lose it

[@ShadowSkyX]

Alvis: oh no, another pet got away. Silly me

[@uncleshithole9127]

@@ShadowSkyXpretty much what happened

[@NoNameAtAll11]

I like how the song uses parts of the fog beast theme. Fitting for a king.

[@samm.8052]

It also uses the fast scaling strings from Xenoblade 2's "The Awakening" track for its intro.

[@ryanepps2183]

It also uses parts of the bionis shoulder battle theme

[@tipsy634]

3:06 Moebius theme????? Would make sense - the Fog is likely connected to XC3.

[@JD-hb2wf]

You're exactly right! :)

[@shadowkingleo7776]

I love how Future Connected also has a battle system that was being tested for Xenoblade Chronicles 3 like the union strikes from the Ponspectors being like the experimental Ouroboros and how there is a nopon named Predodo that foreshadows the appearance of the Ouroboros

[@ShadowSkyX]

Ophion had a move called Oroborous Drive and is a serpent artiface from 2. Who also matches the color pallete to a T in the final area in 3. In fact I'd wager the oroborous powers are derived from ophion originally - hence why those who have its power are "marked" with its symbol.

[@coldgravy8056]

@@ShadowSkyX Imagine if the artifices were made of origin metal

[@samboi123]

@@coldgravy8056wouldn’t it be the other way around? The artifices existed first

[@samboi123]

Reminds me of Bowser’s Fury essentially being a publicly released gameplay tech demo for Odyssey

[@coldgravy8056]

@@samboi123 I mean yeah but we don't know what the metal artifices are made of is called so it just made more sense to say origin metal

[@Fuzunga]

Despite Yoko not being involved in this soundtrack, it really sounds like a Kingdom Hearts boss theme.

[@belot217]

Xenoblade 1 on the whole is a really impressive mix of composers gelling with each others' styles.

[@Mimi.1001]

@@belot217 Kinda, but most of the soundtrack is still made by the same people. Yoko Shimomura only did a handful of tracks (mostly arranged by others), Yasunori Mitsuda did exactly one track and the rest is by Manami Kiyota and ACE+ (which is three people, but still). Working together to create a cohesive OST without openly clashing styles is part of their job (Most games have multiple composers these days). Xenoblade Chronicles 2 & 3 are arguably more impressive because Mitsuda (and his colleague Abounnasr) are much more involved, even if Shimomura isn't at all.

[@MarioSonic46]

Nene with the awesome block tho.

[@joecool4872]

Just got there today, I thought Shulk was going to be the one to block that laser at first, but I was pleasantly surprised.

[@Potato-pf2qs]

Zanza the divine theme hypes you up. The Fog king however puts you on the edge of your seat with this track.

[@mohamedfr6456]

I don't think they used zanza them without purpose.....

[@itsaxel8088]

@@mohamedfr6456 same here. Especially since the first cutscene of future connected showed Zanza

[@mohamedfr6456]

@@itsaxel8088 that means ......the fog king somehow connected to zanza!!?? And my theory what they mean by future connected it means the fog king will appear in the future xenoblade games

[@itsaxel8088]

@@mohamedfr6456 the Fog king is like the creature from the Land of Morytha from Xenoblade 2. I'm curious how that would connect to Xenoblade 3 tho.

[@mohamedfr6456]

@@itsaxel8088 I feel like he is going to be apear dont forget the rift didn't destroyed it just disappeared and ull see we will see the fog king again

[@MrEmberCraft]

Interesting how the events in the extra story shows what the future of xenoblade is going to be, wonder what they are going to do with the fog enemies.

[@FireFury190]

Maybe something similar to the Gnosis in Xenosaga.

[@TheNekromantique]

@@FireFury190 well, the model used for fog king is the infernal Guldo model from XC2. Could be a part of the alterations both worlds undertook at the same time, leading to some 'bleed' from one to the other.

[@Kingdom850]

@You Wish Future connected to the past.

[@hyliastone286]

@You Wish Or an indication that a loose retelling of Xenosaga is next, much like Xenoblade 2 was a loose retelling of Xenogears.

[@connorlego5229]

I would love to see this bridge the worlds of XC to 2 and maybe X, I haven’t beaten it. In some kind of xenoblade warriors

[@ramahermawan4598]

Damn, since when an enemy wear Topple Plus gems?

[@drakath5727]

considering it shares details with an Infernal Guldo, maybe Topple Plus gems were mistaken for Core Crystal Prototypes. I wouldn't put it past them.

[@StrikerProductions96]

When the final boss of this DLC was a Guldo, that's when I *knew* we were gonna be in for something big. One Aionios, Two Queens, and a Liberator home base later and I was right!

[@Jacquaid]

In Mother Alcamoth, Xenoblade boss topple lock you

[@Goober353]

So anyway this track is now called Roar from Beyond

[@craigdellicarpini772]

Some people call this thing a Gnosis, and that may be correct. The Rift is a tear between the Imaginary Domain and Real Number Domain, allowing a single Gnosis to pass through. This Gnosis, is the person who became the Infernal Guldo. When a person is alive, two parts come into play, the spirit in the Imaginary Domain, and the physical body in the Real Number Domain. When that person dies, the spirit loses it's anchor and begins to be swallowed by the Collective Unconsciousness. The more they resisted, the more they became a Gnosis. So when Rex and his party killed the Infernal Guldo, the spirit of it lost it's anchor and began to be swallowed. They resisted and it took them time to get away from the Collective Unconsciousness, so by the time the post game happened, Alrest was already gone. Unable to return to their world, they broke through the Rift into the world of Xenoblade 1, the closest Real Number Domain to their own. The way you become able to hurt the Fog King is the same as when KOS-MOS and other anti-Gnosis weapons use the Hilbert Effect, forcing the Gnosis, in this case the Fog King, into the Real Number Domain, the physical world. Shulk effectively makes a Hilbert Effect. So why does the Rift effect living beings like it does? Why can't it affect humanoid beings? It again could be a trait of the Imaginary Domain, or possibly have to do with Unus-Mundus Drive Operation (U-DO) or even Gnosisification. It could be the Fogbeasts are entities driven mad by the power of U-DO, or are in the process of becoming Gnosis. The people of Bionis and Mechonis likely resonate purely with a force called "Anima", which would make it impossible for them to become Gnosis. The creatures on the other hand, likely do not entirely, and thus begin Gnosisfication, which is seen in the form of the Fogbeasts. It would be reasonable to assume that if you didn't destroy all Fogbeasts, they would have become Gnosis. The only thing I can think of that really counteracts this theory is the fact that the Fog King doesn't cause Shulk, Melia, Nene, or Keno to begin whitening when touched.

[@SumerianSunset]

The Xenosaga lore explanation was spot on, but I really doubt this is exactly what happened. For one, Alrest never disappeared exactly. It just changed form into a larger geomass. There's no reason why it couldn't have returned to Alrest, as it's still entirely present.

[@craigdellicarpini772]

King Jaye It could also reject the new world that was birthed by Rex’s efforts. As a being of rejection, like all Gnosis are.

[@SumerianSunset]

@@craigdellicarpini772 That makes sense. Still, we won't know until the next game drops. I feel like the Fog Beasts will have different circumstances to make them slightly different from their Saga counterparts.

[@jefftheindianchief8279]

If I remember correctly, the monster Rex & crew fought inside the womb of Torna dropped a keycard that bore a strikingly familiar visage. Does anyone else think the Infernal Guldo might have been Galea/Meyneth herself? We've seen what remains of Klaus, it wouldn't be difficult to assume that the Conduit had negatively affected those still aboard the Beanstalk in one way or another. Klaus must have had to utilize Core Crystal innovations in order to survive in his burdened state, the same could be said for the survivors. Since Galea was the closest to Klaus when the reaction occurred, she too would be drastically affected & thus would require similar treatments in order to survive, except the technology was still in its infancy & caused her & countless others to degenerate into the monsters we see now in Morytha. This is all conjecture, but it's an interesting thought nonetheless.

[@SumerianSunset]

@@jefftheindianchief8279 No, that actually makes a lot of sense. If she had any form of Core Crystal tech in her body, Galea becoming the Infernal Guldo would logically make sense if you factor in the ID. And if the Fog King happened to be Klaus's consciousness, it taking the form of a giant Guldo makes sense as well. After all, the Architect had core crystal tech on his body to sustain his life. I assume it is, as Zanza the Divine suspiciously plays for the first phase of the Fog King's final boss. If that was a subtle hint, then it adds up.

[@Alexander-td4kg]

fog enemies are back

[@TheRebornExpert]

*Alvis the Divine be like:*

[@TheRebornExpert]

Reading the comments about the Fog King having a 15+ second topple really surprised me. The reason is, that I was TOO OP and I finished the Fog King pretty quickly before he even did something like that. Am I the only one with a similar experience? Edit (1-29-2022): Thank you for your comments!

[@Mia-hj2ls]

The first battle I had with him, I lost on phase 2 pretty bad. Got toppled a few times, not too bad though, just lost a lot of health and died. Trained up after that, then I was too strong. So yea, I didnt notice it either

[@BlaizeTheDragon]

I definitely wasnt OP. I was level 74, no topple resist gems, didnt even have all ponspecters and didn't even spam monado armour. just kinda... treated it like i do every other enemy. Smack it till it dies.

[@123christianac]

Me? I topple locked it with Starlight Kick. The devs decided to give me a free topple every 20 seconds. I decided that I'm going abuse the crap out of it.

[@samboi123]

I was OP, had all the Ponspectors and was on casual for the story lmao l

[@lucassworldofletsplays9270]

The characters: Fog King My peanut-sized brain: F*cking

[@heir2themonado422]

I think we know who the fog king is now

[@linkalot7415]

not necessarily. i think people need to stop assuming that. its possible the 3 dlc will connect to FC but something that looks vaguely like the rift behind alvis doesn't confirm it imo. But i would love if we got more info about the fog king's identity, of course

[@Justforvisit]

@@Cue-Ball. Absolutely this!

[@marquis2736]

2:32 and 3:44 sound a lot like the FogBeast battle theme. Specifically 0:55 of the FogBeast battle theme on this yt channel. BRO THAT IS SO FUCKING SICK!!

[@Evolved_Mike]

when we had no idea back then...

[@thequincy_]

This is such a epic track, very fitting for the entity dubbed the "Fog King". Its origins have been unknown, so it makes this entity and its OST all the more ominous. Unfortunately, I beat the Fog King with relative ease, being at level 76, so around two levels under it during this phase, so I didn't get to hear past the 2-3 minute mark of this track.

[@kingjonny394]

i can't wait to find out just what the fog king is in xc3

[@benjaminmajeski140]

The theme of Monado Armour, topple resist gems, and a dead Kino and/or Melia.

[@areallymeanperson]

Spoilers So, was this Alpha? Or brought in by Alpha? Im gonna assume brought in because the core was found after FC

[@oux3456]

Probably just a big fog rift created by Alpha to destroy the remnants of the pure blooded High Entias (Klaus/Zanza's cells)

[@twiilit_]

honestly it might actually be the infernal guldo or whatever remained of it, brought to bionis as a product of the worlds growing closer

[@uncleshithole9127]

@@twiilit_that seems to be the correct answer especially with how Fogbeast’s were handled in Fr being more akin to the fog king

[@twiilit_]

@@uncleshithole9127 months later and i just realized that the telethia that entered the rift killed the fog king through an annihilation event :(

[@jujuthehoms5482]

@@twiilit_Damn you cooked

[@georgefrank4489]

This theme gives off kingdom hearts vibes. I don’t know if it’s just me, but just wanted to put that out there.

[@windwaker0rules]

so the guldos are coming back, that could be interesting in a future game

[@yeah351]

Didn’t actually get to hear this theme as I was ridiculously overleveled so I’m glad I get to now

[@yourehereforthatarentyou]

i didnt hear it because i played on casual mode i dont regret it. the amount of side quests and grinding in this game is bullshit

[@eeeeggnog._.]

@@yourehereforthatarentyou didn't have to grind whatsoever, side quests yes there a lot but most just get finished automatically

[@Darkstar263]

I defeated the Fog King on my first attempt tonight. I had everyone at Level 80 but it was still a slight struggle when falling victim to it's extra long topple. Can finally make a start on Xenoblade 2

[@mulch895]

So apparently if you move behind the fog king he cant topple you soooo yeah. Hope thag helps 4 years later

[@ZuraKyousuke]

Sorry Fog King but u got straight murdered by the 12 Ponspectors lol

[@Ozzy_08x]

I see Monolith got the choir from BOTW to help out record this track

[@SeriousStriker]

Honestly I thought the Fog King really reminded me of Calamity Ganon, in terms of appearance (I know it also resembles the Infernal Guldo) and it's general plot throughout the story.

[@desolattiedevestati1180]

@@SeriousStriker thinking about it, the Fog King and Calamity Ganon are quite similar, both are concealed in a homeland brought to its worst state, being held off by something and spreading their manifestations throughout the world.

[@mssunshine8971]

Xenoblade's Soundtracks is so much better than Botw though

[@ferusskywalker9167]

@@mssunshine8971 they're trying to portray different emotions so, objectively, they have soundtracks equal to each other.

[@mssunshine8971]

@@ferusskywalker9167 Eh

[@DankJudgement]

People be wilding at this things topple and saying they did in on Casual mode. I don't remember fighting it because I slapped it too hard using some easily obtainable gems.

[@golfer435]

Has a theme finally surpassed Zanza's theme?

[@2yoyoyo1Unplugged]

Okay now that the whole story is done, can we piece together what the Fog King was now?

[@P.7005]

Alpha/Alvis's shenanigans

[@Destian_1]

@@P.7005 That's the funny part. According to one small bit of Dialog from A, Alpha only directs the fog beasts, he hasn't created them or has direct control over them.

[@clintwaki6936]

So was the 'Fog King' sounding like 'Fucking' intentional?

[@xenonabaki8011]

Toppling the fogking: 😃 Getting toppled by fogking: 💀

[@metalgamer21]

I had to deal with the topple shit first attempt against this guy. Second try I got super lucky and Yellow Ponspector or Starlight Kicked his ass before he could use the move.

[@black1blade74]

You can hear oroboros theme 0_0.

[@DeadJack1999]

Holy shit you fight agent smith in this!?!?!

[@Sable_Soup]

I played this on Casual mode bc I was in a minor hurry and beat this boss in about fifteen seconds lol

[@Knownodin875]

Anyone notice that some parts of the song has kind of the same theme as Riki's kindness

[@youngmastereraqueez9558]

I learned the hard way that if you don't go into this phase with at least two full bars of the party guage and Shulk's Monado Arts ready to go... THE RUN IS FUBAR!

[@monadomike7300]

Y’all I need this on iTunes

[@CapnShades]

Cool boss but I still need more context for this thing

[@MrJamieRose]

Hopefully we get it in the sequel

[@Alovon]

Best guess, it is either a version of, or the actual Infernal Guldo fought in XBC2. Somehow, it managed to survive past the end of XBC2 and cross into XBC1's universe, on it's way encountering... something, turning it into the Fog King and releasing that substance that corrupted it into the XBC1 universe through the Rift, making the Fog Beats in the process.

[@neondouble_]

Spoilers for XC1 I really wish that normal Fiora was a playable skin in post-game

[@elgbt252]

honestly the final fight was a bit easy, but maybe because i was lv 80?

[@Mav12able]

I beat the final fight quite easily at level 78 Shulk/77 everyone else. The dragon from the Ponspectors quest was much harder.

[@elgbt252]

@@Mav12able dear god that quest was pretty hard, took me 6 tries even at lv 80, i used extra chance ponspector attacks

[@fernandobullanguero]

The dragon and the final boss wrre quite easy to me. BUT the fucking lizzard in one of the mazes was kind of crazy xD took me about 20 tries

[@Josh-ql1zi]

This should be one of the music tracks that come with Pyra/Mythra when they join Smash.

[@fernandobullanguero]

First I dind't understand the comments section about being toppled, but after reading for a while now I realize what they were talking about. Really funny, because I wasn't toppled a single time. In fact, the boss was kind of dissapointing to me because it didn't take me long to beat XDDD I was a lucky man :33

[@Diamond_Aura]

Does anyone else feel like Future Connected had some great set ups and then just kinda... abruptly ended, like the developers ran out of time? Gael'gar getting a fully voiced and animated cutscene, but then his real defeat later isn't even voiced? We don't really find out what was up with the Rift, or why the Fogbeasts were so bent on the destruction of Gran Dell? I thought perhaps it could have been connected to another world, like perhaps the world of X or 2 (neither of which I've played yet), but my friend who has played 2 said the Rift didn't seem to be connected to 2's world. It also was eery/cool how the ruined Alcamoth had Zanza's choir singing subtly, and so I thought, "oh, maybe the Fog King is some remnant of Zanza that somehow survived and is out for revenge? Maybe his hope was to cause enough chaos that he could eventually track down Shulk and try to kill him/his friends, either for revenge or perhaps even to somehow regain his power?? Even if he's currently reduced to kinda a Calamity Ganon type entity, somewhat mindless, but still fueled by revenge?" Yet, they just kinda... go and kill the Fog King. Little is actually resolved about the new plot points, and it felt like a much more empty victory, because we didn't even know why the Fog King existed, or if it had relevance to Zanza or other worlds or lore. It just kinda... felt like they were setting up for bigger reveals/climaxes, and then they ran out of time to make the game, so they just kinda slapped the final boss where it is and left out those other story elements...

[@voidoflight2420]

I feel like most of FC was to set up 3, so things like the Fog King were more teased than really revealed. Gael'gar was probably just meant to be a throwaway villain to give Melia character development and nothing else.

[@てん-g8k]

すき

[@Frog_24_]

Me in 2020: "What is the Fog King and the rift?" The comments: "It's a set-up for the next Xenoblade game and it will answer this question" Xenoblade 3: *releases doesn't answer anything* Me in 2022: *"What the spark is the Fog King and the rift????"*

[@romacalor]

ITS ALVIS ITS ALVIS

[@Frog_24_]

@@romacalor I saw the trailer. Damn

[@Justforvisit]

It's simply the first hint that the events of the two worlds of XC1 and XC2 once seperated have now been inevidbly set in motion. The Worlds are coming together, merging, and nobody can stop it. And it makes the barrier between the worlds thin as air, so that on certain occasions things from one world like the Infernal Guldo can transfer to the other one when certain circumstances are met.

[@braydenleaderofthetirkins1143]

I’m sorry….but I just really wanted to get to Xeno 3…so I turned on Casual mode after losing to the BS second form. Forgive me…

[@Justforvisit]

Totally fine. I always considered "Normal" to be "Hard" in this games anyways, while "Casual" is way more "Normal" to me. A good example is Torna, where you already lose against the first boss on "Normal" if you didn't grind the shit out of the forest where you start in...before you could take on ANY SIDEQUEST! I mean, WTF Monolith Soft?! At least let me open up the game so I DO HAVE CHOICES MAN!

[@Orcawsom]

why is everyone saying this guy was hard? he was super easy, especially after Prosecutor Davrum.

[@fathm4623]

I think this definitely strengthens the theory that Galea is the Infernal Guldo. I'm assuming that when the conduit was lost at the end of XC1/XC2 the links between Alrest and Neo Bionis (?) became weakened and unstable, allowing the Infernal Guldo to seep through in the form of fog. I also don't think it's a coincidence that the Infernal Guldo was the Fog King. It's highly theorised that the Infernal Guldo is Galea, but at the same time I think there's enough evidence that it's still ambiguous... at least in XC2. But a Guldo being able to almost physically enter the alternate universe is sus for sure, I think this might be an evil Galea's doing, after all, we haven't seen her counterpart fully. My current theory is that Klaus was closer to the conduit and was split cleanly into two: Zanza and the Architect, but I think Galea may not have been split as cleanly, and her soul has been fractured into other universes, alongside being Meyneth and the Guldo. I think we'll see her in either XCX2 as the custodian or creator of Mira to save all forms of life from the effects of the Conduit's explosion that destroyed the universe and severely harmed other parallel universes (as it seems unlikely to me at this point that the Conduit only affected the original universe (XC2) by splitting it in half. Even if it did, that must have had reverberations on the other universes by affecting the balance of them all in the multiverse. Alternatively, I think we could also see an evil version of her in another universe in XC3 who wants to take revenge on Klaus and what happened to her, or for some other reason. I will be completely shocked if Galea doesn't turn up in a future game though, and I'd be even more shocked if the Fog Beasts don't turn up again either.

[@nyxmiloq4167]

If the Infernal Guldo is Galea, and the Fog King is the Infernal Guldo, then we're fighting Galea. "Zanza the Divine" for the first phase of the Fog King is not that out of place, if that's true.

[@Xane875]

I mean if the Fog Beasts have nothing to do with XC3, then the entirety of the rift plotline was filler and the name "Future Connected" really wouldn't make any sense.

[@hunterac45]

Major Final Fantasy vibes

[@vicentegatica34]

so this battle was... to easy jkslfdfsakfks, rescuers spaaaam!!!

[@SpanishSebas]

The first seconds remind me to The Matrix xD

[@samm.8052]

For it being called "future connected" there aren't very many futures being...connected.

[@Jayroonify]

I found it especially weird how in the credits you get to see all the other characters, but unlike Shulk and Melia, they're still wearing the exact same stuff and don't seem to have changed. I was very sad that we didn't get a final cutscene or something showing how everyone else's lifes developed.

[@Mav12able]

[POTENTIAL XC2 SPOILERS] I have seen some video's call this song "The Conduit's Demise" that might be a connection to XC2 if it's the actual song title. It would imply the Fog King has something to do with the Conduit. HOWEVER: It is likely that the title is just a fan name or troll and is complete nonsense.

[@samm.8052]

@@Mav12able I saw that a while ago. I hope that is the real title, because I don't really like how FC isn't really a "Xeno" story. It's a pretty good story, just slightly disappointing considering its title.

[@godie25]

Maybe X takes place in XC1's world in a very distant future and the rift connects to this future, explaining why there's a Telethia in X and why the story is called "Future connected"

[@samm.8052]

@@godie25 I think that theory is just a little far fetched. I may be wrong, but didn't the Telethia explode when they hit the portal? There was also an interview where one of the story execs(it may have actually been Takahashi) said that Future Connected referred to the future of the High Entia, connected as a whole from their split groups. I really do hope that FC connects to something big in the future.

[@poobla7638]

The topple theme

[@Sherkel]

This is totally Hiramatsu, right?

[@Sherkel]

@@Cue-Ball. Oh, whoa, today?! Thank you for the info! The False Queens and the piano made me not sure it was ACE.

[@veemon9009]

So i recently JUST finished the game and haven't touched the extra story yet cause i want to get all the stuff done. Get the best gear reach 99 etc etc And i'm hearing about *Us* being topple locked and... i'm scared.

[@spystar18]

I didn't get toppled too much but my biggest problem was with the minions maybe

[@leandrogonzalez3552]

Sounds like a song straight out of Kingdom Hearts

[@thefrancix9316]

Well a couple of songs were made by Yoko shimomura, it wouldn't surprise me if this one was made by her too.

[@lman9034]

Same Composer

[@stealthmaster96]

I don't think Yoko came back for Future connected. Mitsuda was in charge of the remastering and all the other FC songs sound like ACE and Kenji

[@ramahermawan4598]

Nope. This doesn't feel like Yoko at all. Mostly feels like XC2 and Torna since she's not composing those games.

[@lman9034]

@@ramahermawan4598 Doesn't mean it wasn't inspired by her

[@Mr._Sherwood]

Yeah the utterly ridiculous topple length it practically opens the fight with isn't that bad you just have to abuse Unison Rush to gain topple immunity. No I'm not salty about being essentially instakilled by seemingly permanent topple, shut up

[@FluffyDigby]

My Zanza this boss was annoying.

[@James-lw9ih]

Haha fugging

[@plompedu]

Probably weakest boss theme in the franchise ngl especially for a final boss

[@ephemeralenhancement9445]

The music is the only thing I liked about Future Connected. Everything else was terrible imo

[@monadomike7300]

Really? I quite liked the scenery, the fight choreography, the character’s arcs being rounded off and the new story being introduced. I will admit it was a little lackluster in that area, but it’s definitely setting up a new game and I’m happy with the basic premise they’ve shown so far.

[@ephemeralenhancement9445]

@@monadomike7300 I'm glad you liked it but I found the writing to be awful and hearing this will be the future of xenoblade concerns me. The Fog King was the lamest obstacle ever

[@xord5293]

The only thing I liked about the mess of Future Connected is the overgrown Alcamoth, charaterization, and some of the action sequences where Melia and Shulk kick some ass. Why is the shoulder the only piece that is left? Because it was easy to add it as it was already created? Nothing but lazy content that taints the masterpiece status of the base game. The enviroments look beautiful but with absolutely no concept, making them bland. Compare the shoulder with Eryth Sea for instance; there is a reason why the shoulder was cut content or just used for internal testing. The music is good but isn’t up to par with the original’s; it sounds like typical adventure music I can find anywhere, exept the Fog beasts one. Speaking of Fog stuff, what were they thinking? For me the story and characters are everything; the story is non-existant and none of the other characters are around to help Melia figure out her role as the leader of the High Entia as if none of them care. The fact Tyrea isn’t playable is a big missed opportunity. The fact that everyone thinks this is ok is concerning. I think Monolith either lost its touch or is targeting a younger demographic now so no more masterpieces.

[@ephemeralenhancement9445]

@@xord5293 yeah them saying this is the future of Xenoblade scares me because the Fog King had zero context and the new characters were annoying af. Even if it's something that gets explained in the next game, it won't make up for the fact that the writing and pacing was awful in Future Connected

[@xord5293]

Ephemeral Enhancement Nintendo is known to push lazy content and make cash in the process. I remember once they said that the reason Peach was not playable in a New Super Mario WiiU game was because her skirt was hard to code... like excuse me wwhhhat?? Future connected is the same thing; lazy content where environment are reused, characters are completely removed, and gameplay heavily downgraded.

[@two_thicc_boi]

When the first phase began I was disappointed because I thought they would make a new song for the final boss but when I heard Zanzas theme I was like really? I wasnt expecting there to be a phase two and god damn was I in for a surprise.

[@ASquared544]

Zanza theme: Plays in first phase Me: “Oh yep, there’s definitely a second phase”

[@arminarlelt7471]

Let's be honest, the only real disappointment about Future Connected is that Tyrea isn't playable. I expected her to be a "Fiora 2.0" like they did with the two nopons. I also thought Gaelgar would be a Dunban 2.0. I would have loved to move around in the new Colony 9 too.

[@noodle4542]

Ehh, going off of how he fought as a boss I'd say Gaelgar would be more a physical Melia

[@drakath5727]

I wasnt expecting Gaelgar to even be playable and you shouldn't have either tbh. I mean come on, he has THE anime expression that means he's going to betray you for his psychotic goals.

[@truthsinger7413]

Imakuni_BoomAtack and he was purple

[@noodle4542]

Ah yes, purple. the surefire colour of evil.

[@noodle4542]

But yeah, his overall design and expression makes it pretty clear that he's probly shady boi. Not to mention the fact the game doesn't really hide his shade prior to his 'betrayal'

[@brianv9242]

The theme of spamming monado armor

[@i_have_depression]

Absolutely. Add some haste gems on top of that.

[@flango348]

That's every battle theme.

[@LumboDumbo]

fr

[@bootsnhopscotch]

Everyone: "Ugh, the Fog King topple locks you and its so annoying!" Me, topple locking the Fog King with Spear Break: ":)"

[@spectrobeshakozorax1092]

insert all topple locked superbosse's revenge here, "it was fine for you to do it to us, why not for you" with an unblockable topple spike. man I like how some devs use the nasty tactics we did on ourselves

[@ognoob1606]

"Now, STARLIGHT KICK!" "-Ouch!"

[@ramahermawan4598]

The only team to Topple-lock: Shulk, Melia and Nene

[@RaidenKaiser]

there is a boss way worse than this and its not even a superboss there is this lizardman UM that does instant with with his auto attacks at random and hes insanely fast, any try to resist instant death without a 100% gem is pointless so either you fight him overleveled or suffer the RNG ai factor.

[@loftwingheropon2743]

Rusty Blader is it reckless Godwin in satorl marsh? Because I hate that one too.

[@yoshi6416]

My favourite part about this fight was getting killed in one hit while my entire party got toppled for so long they couldn’t revive me in time before I lost the fight

[@wispeon]

Tell me about it. The first time I lost was because Shulk was the only one left and he couldn't walk around the fog king to revive me so just stood there and got hit until he died. Second time, everyone got toppled and continuously hit without getting up for over 10 seconds. Thankfully the 3rd time I got rid of the extra enemies before everyone got nulled down for what felt like forever before getting back up

[@wispeon]

@You Wish Right. I didn't need them anyways, I got through it fine on another attempt

[@maxrichards3881]

I’ve never lost to this guy, at all.

[@hyliastone286]

Once you know the fight, it's pretty manageable as long as you kill the adds first and save a Ponspector attack from phase 1. I enjoyed the challenge.

[@hyliastone286]

The Ponspector final boss, on the other hand...

[@ramahermawan4598]

Fun fact: When Melia uses Starlight Kick, she also Topples herself for a second.

[@RagnarokXEterenity]

Birdlady cant land.

[@ShadowSkyX]

Makes sense honestly. There are multiple enemies with moves that briefly topples or launches them, giving them a couple seconds of vulnerability.

[@Krirak]

Didnt expect new final boss theme, I thought they would use The God Slaying Sword. This was a pleasant surprise.

[@Jayroonify]

Personally I still kinda can't forgive them for reusing Zanza the Divine on a boss that has nothing to do with Zanza whatsoever. I get why they would reuse themes, but THAT ONE? I might be overexaggerating, feel free to tell me your own opinion about this, but to me this theme should have stayed where it belongs (probably also bc I didn't really like the Fog King as a plot device anyway)... But hey maybe there's a reason for that and it's somehow related to what the Fog King really Was. If that's the case I might even be fine with it in the long run, but finding our will probably take us a few more years :D

[@Dr.Meme-Man]

Jayroonify actually, I think the reason why they reused the theme for this game is because, whatever that thing is, is just as dangerous, if not more dangerous, than Zanza.

[@Wuscheli0]

@@Jayroonify I do think there's a reason. They even used Memory's End for Alcamoth.

[@monadomike7300]

Björn-Erik Reis I think it has meaning, although not as deep as we might think. They might just be trying to invoke the sense of urgency that Zanza’s fight (and leading up to it) had.

[@Jayroonify]

@@Dr.Meme-Man I truly hope your right :D But for me, it would take more than just "being more dangerous" in order to justify this reusage, if it turns out to be a sort of god in its own right, it might be somewhat acceptable for me. Still not really since that theme is literally titled "Zanza" but it would be more ok-ish :D

[@chandler2581]

I'm not gonna lie, the Ponspectors are the only reason I was able to beat this thing. I used the first phase to fill the party gauge. As soon as the second phase started, I used the Yellow Team's all out attack to stun it while I filled the party gauge again. I then used the Red Team's all out attack to do massive damage. It was then at low enough health for me to just spam all my available arts until it died.

[@monadomike7300]

I used a ton of topple resist gems to get it to about half health and then used the red team to finish it off.

[@benjaminschroeder5465]

Man, good thing I went out of my way to go grab all the Ponspectors and finish their whole sidequest(Dragon killing and all) before doing the final battle, then

[@shadowkingleo7776]

I love how the shoulder is so intertwined with the biodiversity of every location in Bionis and Mechonis on one area and living in such a harmony that even if they came from different environments they do not upset the balance in the ecosystem but the Fog King does by first driving the remaining High Entia out of Alcamoth then corrupting the animals and turning them into Fogbeasts and controlling them to wipe out the High Entia refugees

[@deadlymetix4875]

At least i could enjoy the theme while i was toppled for 20 seconds

[@almondjoy4938]

This sounds more ominous than Zanza by a mile. Makes me feel like the Fog King was just a taste of what's to come.

[@samm.8052]

It almost sounds like a Breath of the Wild boss theme, with the reliance on choir chords to make that unsettling feeling.

[@Jayroonify]

I really, really hope so. Tbh, I even feel like my trust in Monolith's storytelling has been hurt a little bit by FC because I personally disliked the 'story' so much... I really hope that changes once we get to the next entry in the series and we'll hopefully learn more about what exactly it was that FC was meant to point to.

[@o15ika]

@@Jayroonify they stated they had limited budget and time for this epilogue so I can forgive FC being so short and a bit bland, but they planted several clues in the game preparing us for what's coming next.

[@qwertyuiop1854]

Still waiting for Xenoblade 1 and 2 to cross dimensions, it would be the greatest sequel ever. Include the ups of both games, maybe fuse the combat system or create a hybrid of it, get old VA's or more likely, new ones, and boom. Perfect game.

[@hyliastone286]

@@qwertyuiop1854 NEVER replace the old VAs. Did you learn NOTHING from Xenosaga II?

[@twililink8867]

So I just finished this, and it left a few unanswered questions that I had, but other than that, it was pretty good. Not as good as the main story, but it's still good in it's own right. I did really like the Fog King but there's still a ton about it that wasn't explained. I also don't know why the shoulder of the Bionis' was still hanging around in the sky after the Bionis' got destroyed, that just felt kind of random. If these were answered in-game, then I probably missed them, but I don't think they were. Also this theme is very good.

[@yoshi6416]

TwiliLink according to the game’s area description it’s floating because it has so much hover stone apparently

[@infinitelewis6482]

The Fog King is highly likely to be a Guldo from Xenoblade Chronicles 2, I think its inclusion in FC is hinting at a possible Xenoblade Chronicles 3

[@twililink8867]

Majora's Minion I can definitely see how that would make sense since there is a sidequest involving some of those. Infinite Lewis I can kind of see the Guldo shape and it would be very cool if this was teasing for a new Xenoblade game since it would probably answer more questions I have about it.

[@TheNekromantique]

@@twililink8867 yeah, they essentially explained it as the reason for the floating islands in eryth sea to start with, and the shoulder had a high concentration of the stuff that the giants took advantage of.

[@drakath5727]

If XC3 does become a thing it'll probably be the last big project for a while based on Monolithsoft's announcement of wanting to do more small scale projects. But what if XC3 we keep thinking of is actually Xenoblade X2?

[@Nicolasacmf]

With XCDE finally getting a proper soundtrack release we now know the name of this track: Roar from Beyond. Pretty ominous, specially now that the DLC for XC3 seems to be tying in to Future Connected...

[@chained2052]

ALVIS WAS COOKING

[@codename618]

I managed to lose this fight in Casual Mode. It was very annoying. (Don't judge me. I wanted to speed through FC to reduce my chances of being spoiled. It worked.)

[@domicraft6341]

I feel you. But this fight was really hard it took me a few hours and grinding to beat. As an exchange I've done nearly everything in FC.

[@drakath5727]

@@domicraft6341 Where are you even meant to get Topple Resist gems? I had to do the fight without topple resist and it was a PAAAAIN. So much so I LITERALLY spent more time as Kino then Shulk or Melia just to keep everyone alive.

[@topherkauffman3393]

@@drakath5727 a good thing that can help which worked for me was use Shulks monado 2 outfit which had the agility buffs on them to max his agility, and have him be a dodge tank supported by Melia and Kino. I was able to beat the boss at level 77 without difficulty. Just an idea of how to help you, because I ran this set the entire game and it worked well for me.

[@azurlune1877]

Considering u were on the finale boss I'd say ur chances of being spoiled were low

[@codename618]

@@azurlune1877 I meant I sped through the game itself.

[@OmegasWorkshop]

Tip for this fight: Save your talent gauge for this phase and pop Monado Armor IMMEDIATELY and keep it up for as long as you can.

[@sockknight3927]

Uhh, well, this is one of the best strategies in the entire game, not just this battle. There's literally no reason not to spam this ability apart from saving it for an enemy's Talent Art or using Monado Cyclone for topple locking.

[@drakath5727]

Actually a more reliable strategy is equipping tons of topple resist gems, but I never found those, so i genuinely just levelled myself up to 99 after way too much grinding to beat him.

[@darthdistortion1934]

@@drakath5727 Yikes Man, I just had myself at lv80 for him, at that was cause I was grinding for the ponspector final boss - and it was more than enough to beat him. Daze ponspectors busted

[@brianv9242]

Monado armor is literally the best art in future connected hands down. Having no visions practically makes speed and shield useless, purge is used for spike enemies, eater and cyclone have their niches (pretty hard to topple lock in FC), and busters damage isn’t worth the whole talent gauge.

[@MrNess640]

@@brianv9242 Some uniques have pretty nasty talent arts that they telegraph. Shield is kind of important for those.

[@belot217]

The "we're not going to even reveal the final boss's identity, better make a killer theme to placate the fans" track.

[@AxeL-up7jm]

In Russia: Enemy Topple locks you.

[@ZekromAndYugiAndDrago123]

I honestly really like how the Fog King isn't explained, even after we know it was some kind of representation of this world and Alrest remerging. Because it's that, yet even more, as the Telethia fought in Xenoblade X somehow ended up there by flying into this fog (perhaps the reverse is how Nopon ended up in both worlds) So much is a mystery about this and I love that

[@gabejr25_82]

Oh boy I sure do love being locked into topple for 15 seconds

[@supremeulousboi4628]

To everyone who says you had trouble with this boss, idk how it was hard but I was like level 78 at the time of fighting the boss so maybe I was overleveled or sum but it was pretty easy

[@darthdistortion1934]

Haha same I was grinding to beat the ponspector boss and I went in lv80, let me survive the entire duration of the topple no problem

[@eow4317]

Same