S-70 Okhotnik military UAV electronics - highlights from war-sanctions

[@GOOGLE-IS-EVIL-EMPIRE]

Wery underrated channel.

[@MrTamhan]

Thank you so much, my friend. Please like, subscribe and comment so that we can stay on top!

[@BallBattle]

Incredible! You are continuing to hit the nail right on its head with every video. So much dedicated knowledge to specific and highly interesting topics that you can't find anywhere else. Hats off to you! Thank you!

[@MrTamhan]

Wow, thank you! My friend, it honours me a lot. I do this to make viewers like you happy, and it really means a lot to me. Also, will you maybe be at Electronica so that we can meet?

[@BallBattle]

​@@MrTamhan If I can make it fit, I will be there on Thursday. I would be very happy to.

[@MrTamhan]

Email me bro. tamhan aeht tamoggemon dot com

[@moormoor4281]

Thanking you most kindly from English England

[@MrTamhan]

warm regards from Vienna, business traveler on the run...will you be at electronica munich?

[@PatrickOnEngineering]

Very interesting, thanks for material and cheers from Poland!

[@MrTamhan]

Thank you so much bro, now from Munich, waiting for the Electronica to start...

[@FrantisekBorsik]

Lots of useful information, as always, my friend.

[@MrTamhan]

Thank you so much, I am honoured!

[@AlexKarasev]

Lancet drones use NVIDIA Tegra Jetson AI flight computers - for whose development DARPA paid and which aren't yet used in US munitions.

[@MrTamhan]

This is interesting...quick development cycle...thanks for talking back from Elektronica

[@AlexKarasev]

@MrTamhan there are multiple factors at play. The biggest one in my opinion is supply chain security. Or more precisely, the security of that (highly profitable) supply chain. The threat of malicious hardware or code injection is very real and requires mitigation at a bunch of levels by expensively vetted & overseen cadre, and while the Russians had no choice but to get what they can (maybe anonymously) which is off-the-shelf industrial-grade not mil-spec, then test what they can and deal with issues as they come, the Pentagon has a far more robust & conservative (and lucrative to their contractors) posture. And those contractors will be damn sure to lobby that it doesn't change anytime soon unless aliens land, guns blazing. You may recall the NASA Mars helicopter used consumer grade chips for its flight computer, comms & camera, as nothing spaceflight-rated had even close to the capability to weight ratio. It'd worked just fine. Quick development cycle - kind of. It's more about having the liberty to start with a completely blank slate - a whole new stack from solution approach & architecture to hardware to software. It represents such a toxic level of risk that you normally don't get to have it unless the previous solution was a failure so spectacular that no amount of lobbying and nepotism and other corruption could rescue it & everyone got fired. Even then, such "clean slate" redesigns are often architected by "senior leaders" whose current idea of new is going from an i486 to a Pentium. Lancet was the brainchild of Zala, a Russian startup that gambled on targeting Tegra AI computers when they were still on the drawing board. For years & years before the invasion they got a blind eye of military brass. Who needs a pie in the sky solution to a problrm that doesn't exist when you have vast stocks of hardware not working perfectly fine to not have to solve the same non-existent problem? It's not like Russia was going to go to a proxy war against the whole West. Then the invasion starts, and it's ugly. The military brass needs not so much a solution but a scapegoat to say "see-we did try to innovate". To everyone's astonishment, the Lancet works. The Kalashnikov state concern is directed to pay "whatever it is" to acquire & scale up Zala. Before they were getting disinterested stares, then the next day they were being asked how many additional supermarkets acquired & converted to assembly floors could they fill with workers putting these units together. (Supermarkets because they already had the infrastructure & access and were conveniently located for the workers).

[@AlexKarasev]

@@MrTamhan Supply chain security constraints in place for the US military plus the liberty of being able to start with a brand new tech stack not often available outside of a startup, may have played a role also.

[@MrTamhan]

@@AlexKarasev Hello, the MIC, especially in the USA; is highly against innovations. There is a whole web site, called g2mil, about that. A clean sheet design can, in mayn ways, make things possible...

[@NGC1433]

Combat Attack helicopter KA-52 using onboard computer system named Baguette 53-15 ... This made my day!!! I knew russian military systems often are named quite creatively but this is next level. Americans would use something meek like "EAGLE TALON 69000" but not russia... Edit: 11:57 for the curious ones.

[@MrTamhan]

Thank you so much for talking back, my friend. Yes, naming can be difficult. I should make a video on that once - in my firm, we use a pretty weird scheme which we took out from a private militia...

[@GOOGLE-IS-EVIL-EMPIRE]

Man who was make rocket target lock system (dont have money for Black Shark russian helicockter, they drop him without money) and was teacher of programming in Kyiv city Palats Ditey ra Yunactva (Палац дітей та юнацтва) former "pioneer's house" in ussr long time ago, is wery good person.

[@MrTamhan]

@@GOOGLE-IS-EVIL-EMPIRE Hello, sorry, I do not understand. Please, explain more!

[@GOOGLE-IS-EVIL-EMPIRE]

@@MrTamhan man who was developer of вертолёт чёрная акула, was not have pay for work from russia many years ago. He tell that in person. I was see him in electronics club in former palace of young pioneers (near subway station Arsenalna is палац дітей та юнацтва). He was programming teacher in that club and he tell fun life stories.

[@MrTamhan]

@@GOOGLE-IS-EVIL-EMPIRE Hello, talking with the experienced, legendary hands is always an honour! I muss my old professor a lot...

[@moormoor4281]

Very technical interesting

[@MrTamhan]

thank you, my friend! I am happy you like the channel!!!

[@ChiefBridgeFuser]

"Lack-ver" Im adding that to my Tam list with cedar winder! Love it and, as a non-MIL guy, your dives into this stuff!

[@MrTamhan]

Thank you so much for your praise man. This makes me really happy. I hope to have more such, and other, interesting videos for you soon!

[@pavelgromovikov5846]

Back in Russia, a was doing some (non-military) stuff with those STM32F103/STM32F105. After the company went bankrupt, there were tens of thousands of those in our stock. Who knows were are they now... As of MLCCs - no point in banning them as well as, say, chip resistors - you need to ban every form and value, and they are easy to substitute, so only downsides everywhere.

[@MrTamhan]

Thank you so much for talking back, my friend. Happy to see you here! The interesting thing I see is that they just do not mention MLCCs - sanctioning Tantalums also makes no sense, but they do list them. For me, the question is why MLCCs dont get used more...maybe due to the risk of "short circuit failures" if the ceramic structure gets injured...

[@pavelgromovikov5846]

@@MrTamhan Somehow it was and probably is a commonplace for EEs in Russia - they love tantalums a lot, especially for capacities >50uF in space-constrained apps. I even was asked once by a german colleague why on Earth I've chosen an (always costly) tantalum for an application where a mere electrolytic will fit nicely... forced by habit, I guess. And tantalum are not super-safe, they are prone to fail at even slight overvoltage like 1,3-1,5 of nominal, and there you have it, a nice and solid short-circuit.

[@MrTamhan]

Hi, thank you for talking back. The issue with Tantalums at overvoltage, of course, exists. It was badly known in the 70s and 80s, where designers thought that a Tantalum can be run at 100% of its nominal voltage...which, well, led to the reputation that the parts have. But, what worries me about the MLCC is that there is a tendency for them to develop a short during vibration. I need to look up the slide for you, looked at this some time ago...

[@pavelgromovikov5846]

@@MrTamhan Can only agree and confirm. In the last couple of years my scope has involved repairs, and it is not a rare occurrence when a bypass cercap shortens some supply voltage line without any visible sign of damage. Finding the offender is a pain at times, since there are tens of them all in the same node.

[@MrTamhan]

Yes man. Thermal cameras can help with this, as can voltage differential measurement. A Danaher repair company did this on my TDS754D to find a RAM chip whcih had shorted...

[@VEC7ORlt]

So what is exact purpose of this video? RU MIL uses off the shelf components? Water is still wet, last time I've checked. Also I think as much about your interaction reminder as Bob Widlar demonstrating how to count to one.

[@michaelterrell]

Microdyne reused the same processors in product lines for many reasons. The cost of the programing tools, inventory costs, and hiring programmers who understood new processors We were using mostly Hitachi 6503 and Motorola MC88340. We still had limited use of some Zilog processors and I think they had used the RCA 1802 because it was one of the first radiation hardened rated for use in outer space. One of our products was ate 'Command Destruct Receiver for Nasa. they didn't want a stray ion causing a rocket to explode. Space rated components were rare.

[@MrTamhan]

Hi, thank you so much for talking back. Yes, space rated components still are quite the marvel...but do you think one needs this degree of rad robustness for a normal UAV flying in maybe 5KM of height?

[@michaelterrell]

@@MrTamhan I typed a long and detailed reply, and lost it. The technology has changed quite a bit, so II'm out of thee current loop. We coulddiscuss some details by Email where I won't ose anything, and it has a better spell checker. I'm to the poimt that have to use the largest font in text editing, and I can't see what I'm typing on KZbin.

[@GOOGLE-IS-EVIL-EMPIRE]

So, one of you two, need to place email address in channel info.

[@michaelterrell]

@@GOOGLE-IS-EVIL-EMPIRE No, we don't. He has my Email address, and were are on several test equipment fourms on Groups.lp

[@MrTamhan]

@@michaelterrell Hello, sorry for being slow in responding. I am at the Electronica fair. But, I have an email from you here and will try to respond ASAP.

[@GNARGNARHEAD]

I had a search (in a sandbox) for Jetson's and found the manufacturer tag for Nvidia, apparently their stuff is in the Zala and Lancet UAV's. amazing video, thanks for sharing

[@MrTamhan]

Thank you so much for talking back. I am happy that my video adds value!

[@GOOGLE-IS-EVIL-EMPIRE]

​@@MrTamhan In old soviet books SMD called planar (планарные радиокомпоненты). For you in case for OSINT.

[@GOOGLE-IS-EVIL-EMPIRE]

​@@MrTamhanFPGA == ПЛИС.

[@GOOGLE-IS-EVIL-EMPIRE]

​@@MrTamhanif you scared to search some things because of prism/ukrainian glowing-in-dark agents (hello there 😊) you can ask questions anc i will google search it for you. Really, ask anything in list with number list (so i dont need to quote every).

[@GOOGLE-IS-EVIL-EMPIRE]

​@@MrTamhando you have bitmessage, matrix or hehe signal?

[@argcargv]

Google is the alpha honey pot

[@MrTamhan]

Hello, yes of course, also. But I would be highly surprised if this web site does not also log the data input... Thank you so much for talking back, my friend!

[@argcargv]

@ not disagreeing with you on that

[@MrTamhan]

Thanks, my friend. I am honoured...and thank you again for watching my video!!!

[@GOOGLE-IS-EVIL-EMPIRE]

Okhotnik (охотник) means "hunter"

[@MrTamhan]

Thank you, my friend!

[@zombieseezombiedo]

sigh, you had to ruin my day, reminding me of BB and how they are gone :'(

[@MrTamhan]

Hi my friend, you mean Blackberry or Burr-Brown ;) Jokes aside. I loved BlackBerry, first my Q10 and later my PRIV. No phone like it...it is such a pity. Now on a Cosmo Communicator, and it is falling apart...

[@Br1cht]

Honeypots are interesting.

[@MrTamhan]

OK man. I am afk for a few days, but I will make a video. If I forget, email me at tamhan aeht tamoggemon dot com

[@lunisamazigh4386]

OK I will comment: Why don't you use Linux ? & Thanks.

[@MrTamhan]

Hi Bro, thank you so much for talking back. Every comment makes me happy, as it shows people watch my stuff. Normally I do use Linux. But I do not have a screenrecorder software there, only the Bandicam on Windows 10... Tam

[@h2w..]

Commercial companies (and most military products are produced by commercial companies) use commercial and non-commercial versions of IP in the marketplace. Any of these products can be made exclusively using loacal versions of IP. Why they did not? It was not neceseary. None of the chips you have shown have some of the important characteristics that are required to produce any kind of military product. And in general -- military products (with a few exceptions) don't require particularly sophisticated IP. It is impossible to trust any data published by the Ukrainian side, as the Ukrainian regime has a dubious reputation. However, some data can still be believed.

[@vishal01mehra]

What if people watching and commenting on this video are also being watched. XD

[@MrTamhan]

Then there is safety in numbers, my friend!

[@hackmind]

I never understood why the russians didn’t bother to sand off the components to make them less traceable.

[@MrTamhan]

Hi, this is indeed an interesting idea. On the other hand, you can always decap the components...there is a West German guy who, alone, does this. I dont know if you know his web site, but www.richis-lab.de/ is google translate friendly...

[@milaro222]

These civilian components are manufactured in hundreds of millions of pieces and can be purchased anywhere, there is no need to hide them.

[@maximkosheleff]

It's just a garbage. No proofs only set of images with random text