MSFS HOW TO GUIDE: VR OPEN XR SETTINGS | HP REVERB G1/G2

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Motion reprojection enables additional frames to improve the fluid motion of the scene, this is something that Oculus users have enjoyed for many years, but now finally Windows mixed reality has caught up!! Make sure you turn preview mode on and motion projection set to auto in the Open XR dev tool. Cheers all

[@spectrasouth]

Despite my previous dislike of motion reprojection, due to the various artefacts if produced, I am now fully converted (thanks to all your enthusiasm and promotion of it) to using it for low flight VFR flying ... it certainly greatly reduces, even eliminates, the stutter/judder. My equipment is very similar to yours: 3090, i9-10900 with G2, and now my software settings are the same as yours, except that I'm using the latest driver, 466.47. What I have only just discovered is that if I have HAGS On I get a significant amount of stutter on the ground, which disappears with HAGS Off. I have not yet checked if this is because I'm using the latest driver, not 457.30 like you.. I use the OpenXR onscreen FPS monitor and with HAGS off it remains blue 99% of the time but with HAGS on it alternates between blue and red 50% of the time. What is you opinion of the Motion Reprojection option of Auto or Always On? Keep up the good work!

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

@@spectrasouth That's great I'm glad you are seeing the huge benefits of ASW. I'd recommend keeping it set to auto

[@johncrichton4341]

Great explanation video Steve! Also, take no notice of negative comments regarding your enthusiasm - you carry on being yourself as it's contagious!!

[@johncrichton4341]

Also, great tip regarding the Oculus runtime json - I'm going to pinch that from you!

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

I really appreciate that John thankyou.

[@cmdreffietrinket]

Thanks for this and your other videos. I’m new to MSFS and run the Reverb Pro G1. I’ve had a ton of trouble with CTD’s with MSFS, and recently purchased a 3090 (to accompany my 9700K @5.1), in desperation trying to fix the sim. Luckily your videos have really helped me and I haven’t had a single CTD in the last two weeks. It has been a mind numbing experience going through all the settings and your dedication to the subject has helped enormously.

[@johnkeegan6646]

Steve, I have experimented more with your settings today. I flipped the switch on the “HAGS”, as you suggested. I flew the Airbus H135 and was able to get a smooth performance even with four settings on Ultra. So, I am now seeing the massive improvements you touted. This sim and related support applications are all changing for the good and changing fast. Thanks for you continuing improvement ideas. It is much appreciated!

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

That's sooo good to hear! Things really are changing fast. Take care!

[@johnkeegan6646]

Steve, I tried all these settings and for me it was better with the previous settings. I just didn’t see the improvements. Still follow you each and every step! Keep up the advice.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

No worries John. Thanks for confirming your experience

[@robbicus1]

My G2 arrives tomorrow! Got it specifically for MSFS. Thank you for this valuable information!

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

That's awesome Rob congratulations!

[@robbicus1]

@@VRFlightSimGuy Appreciate it! I started training for my PPL last week, so the sim is really gonna help accelerate that.

[@MrHughes500]

Thanks Steve for explaining this. I tried it last night and Sim worked a lot smoother . Thanks.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Excellent! Glad it's been helpful ☺️

[@4secsharkmr352]

Hi Steve, very good tutorial for G2 newbees👍 I watched it anyway, because you can always learn something new. Superbly done and everyone should really understand that now. Without getting lost in technical details. Take care my friend!

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Cheers buddy super appreciated take care and have a great weekend!

[@4secsharkmr352]

@@VRFlightSimGuy you are welcome and have a great weekend too👍

[@dtrjones]

Fantastic explaination Steve. I'm sure this will go a long way to helping a lot of folks and win you a few more friends!

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Thanks David I'm so glad it's been useful 😊

[@JohnCarlyle]

Just tried this, and now MSFS is buttery smooth on my 2070 Super, THANK YOU

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

That's fantastic John nice one!

[@simplysimulator]

Another really interesting and useful video - thanks for taking the time to test and explain will recommend these videos where people want info on Open XR.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Thankyou that's super appreciated!

[@rjd97c]

Worked for me thanks. New openXR with 22,5 vs 30 is a big diff!

[@felipeturbayr]

Thanks Steve for this clear an understandable explanation! no need to use any technical language!

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Cheers :)

[@stevetb7777]

Thanks, great vid! Got a chuckle at 1:42. Pretty sure I heard you say "Samsung Oddity+". That would be an odd headset! =D

[@deanna6359]

Thank you so much for another helpful video! With preview mode on I'm getting a much smoother performance and have been able to increase render scaling from 60% to 70%, nice! I have found though that if I set reprojection to 'always on' rather than 'automatic' I seem to get less wavering and artifacts : )

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Nice one! I'll make sure to check the always on myself and report back. Cheers!

[@MadsGranumMusic]

Thanks for taking your time to share this. It is of great value to me!

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Thanks and my pleasure 😊

[@SparkySven]

Great updates. Great videos with nice technical datails. Have a superb weekend. My stiff drink is now in my left hand. Cheers

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Haha nice one Sven take care buddy.

[@SparkySven]

@@VRFlightSimGuy Just bought the new Carenado Piper Seneca V and love it. 2 CTD again so my nightmare is not 100% over. See my review. Table in the back, light as passengers works and open the door by mistake but need longer cable to move in the plane lol facebook.com/1018710693/videos/10222855090338658/

[@JohnDGregory]

Great Job with this Steve. All we need now is the 22.5fps lock for SteamVR and we are done. There seems to have been a few updates for SteamVR Beta recently including a lower FPS lock but I just can't get it to lock at 22.5.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Thanks John. Yeah unfortunately Steam VR only supports this for the Valve Index presently, but I have a feeling it won't be long! Cheers.

[@qatsi4897]

Thanks a million for the super thorough explanation. Much appreciated! About the frame limiting, you could try MSI Afterburner. The RivaTuner part of it limits to set frames also in VR. I have set it at 30 fps normally I will try 23 now. Hope that will give a smooth reprojection. So far no succes (jittering and blurring) still. 'cries in 45% OpenXR setting' :)

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Hey my pleasure and thanks for watching. Yeah I wouldn't recommend limiting your fps with nvidia, it messes with the ASW (motion projection). Cheers.

[@sascenturion]

Wow... Thanks very much Steve for that techie info ..well done! Ps. Still luv your enthusiasm! ..don't change! 👍😀

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Thanks buddy that means a lot take care 🙂

[@ET0000]

Worked a treat mate!!!! Thanks for the heads up!

[@johnkeegan6646]

Super job on a technical subject...well done!

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Thanks John 😊

[@thydney1970]

Hi Steve, appreciating your videos so much and many thanks. I followed your recommendations and just flew from KJFK to KBOS with acticated motion reprojection on auto the first time. Even we have almost the PC spec, I only have an RTX 3070 only, I got the first time a bit motion sick..... The FPS itself was stable more or less but I had stutters all over the flight and a bit wobbly view out of the window. That's why I have to test the same fly without and with my old OXR config first again. Currently I'm not really happy. It is not a critic from myside just my personal feedback. Can't await the next videos from you.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Thanks for your feedback. ASW can be a bit wonky at times. I only use it in areas where I'm flying VFR. For more cockpit focused flights, I leave it disabled.

[@thydney1970]

@@VRFlightSimGuy I completely agree that on cockpit focused flights it is to wobbly. Will try this afternoon a VFR low level flight with activated motion reprojection. will let you know.

[@4secsharkmr352]

Hi, strange. I tested it with the Bell 47 in a VFR flight from LOIR. Fps were stable and I saw few wobbles if I looked through the rotor blades. Very important is to NOT set all graphic options to high. You definitly will cause an CPU bottleneck and than you will get stutters for shure because your GPU will get too few frames handled over by the CPU. Look at all of your threads. I think one of them reaches 100%. This is the reason why you see stutters. By the way I am on I9-9900K@5.0Ghz 64GB RAM@3600 and RTX3090 OC and don't have my settings too high. If you had stable fps rund about 40 than you are good to go and enable motionreprojection. This protects you from severe stutters in demanding areas. To avoid wobbles in single prop default aircrafts I use a prob mod from flightsim.to. To optimize your system you may read this: forums.flightsimulator.com/t/my-2070-super-vr-settings-and-suggestion-reverb-g2-wmr/342582

[@billcom1200]

Steve, great video. It might be helpful to point out the following to avoid confusion. With latest OpenXR Developer Tools version you noted in the About tab (106.2104.15001.0), you will get two different version numbers for the Windows Mixed Reality Runtime shown on the Status tab, DEPENDING on whether you have the Use Latest Preview OpenXR Runtime checked or not. If not checked, this version number will probably be 105.2104.13002. If checked, the version will be 106.2104.15001. This caught me out until I tried checking and unchecking the Use Latest Preview.

[@waltersbg]

Except for some of us (still haven't figured out why), if not checked the runtime version is 105.2104.13002 and if checked the runtime version is 105.2102.1104 (older)!! Without being able to get the 106.* runtime, we cannot get the 22.5hz reprojection.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Thanks for that William I didn't realise this

[@paulphibbs7162]

I have my rendering in MSFS set to 80 and all settings maxed. Flew around Seattle with no stutters and very clear view. Seattle has always been a test area for me.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Thanks for the info!

[@maguila7777]

Thank you and good fly on the weekend!

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Cheers you too!

[@lh32186]

Very helpful, my G2 is on its way!

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Good choice!

[@lh32186]

@@VRFlightSimGuy just received my G2!!!!😃.........and.........right lens is cracked🤦🏽‍♂️ and it’s brand new. It’s getting replace but still🤷🏽‍♂️. Good thing i kept my rift s!!!

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

@@lh32186 NOOOOO! I'm so frustrated for you :(

[@lh32186]

@@VRFlightSimGuy yes it’s very very frustrating! But on the bright side rift s still going 💪🏽... lol

[@willbennett1359]

Thanks Steve, just what we needed

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Cheers Will 😊

[@royjohansen8697]

Thank you steve 🙂 this was a big help for me🙂have a great weekend you are king🙂👍✈️

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Cheers Roy I'm so glad it helped. Have a good one!

[@bondbond3428]

Steve, Thanks again for your work on this. Great Video! If you could, let me know what "Runtime Version" shows in your "System Settings" tab in OpenXR. Mine still shows the old version there (105.2102.11004) even though like you it shows the new one v106... in "About". At this point for me, anything under 30fps is still ghosting and stuttering like mad so I'm dubious that I am actually getting the 4th frame. Trying find out why! Thanks again!!!

[@bondbond3428]

Apologies that is "System Status" tab...

[@waltersbg]

@Bond Bond, I'm in exactly the same boat. My "About" says I have the v106 but my runtime version in the System Status tab is v105 (seemingly an OLDER 105 if I have the preview runtime enabled). I would also like it if Steve could tell/show us what his shows in the System Status tab. I'm trying to get to the bottom of this and I will obviously let you know if I figure it out! Update: I've tried everything I can think of, up to and including uninstalling both the OpenXR tools and OpenXR itself. Both are re-installed now and I still don't get the 106.* runtime. Note that "uninstalling" these apps doesn't seem to remove them from the system (at least the directories still exist). But, why are you and I different? Are you a Windows Insider? I am and I am set to the beta channel. If anything, that should mean that I would have gotten this sooner. But do you notice in this video that Steve's shows updated yesterday? Mine was last updated (not counting the uninstall/reinstall I did today) on 4/21. Maybe we just don't have the latest preview runtime yet, somehow?

[@macmusica]

@@waltersbg I tried switching Preview OFF, then it shows v105 in System Status, if you enable it again you must close the APP and open it again to see it shows v106. Personally I really do not see any difference at all. 2080TI ULTRA and no evidence of a 3rd added frame.

[@waltersbg]

@@macmusica Thanks for the reply. When I turn preview ON, close the APP and open it again, I actually have an OLDER version. Nothing I do will give me v106 in the runtime version. Because of that, I don't have reprojection possible at 22.5fps. The advantage of this, which I'm looking forward to, is that I can only get the advantages (and, admittedly, disadvantages) of reprojection if my fps is above 30. With this change, if I can ever get it to work, I will be able to have an fps of 23-30 and still get reprojection.

[@waltersbg]

@Bond Bond, Are you in the Windows Insider Program? If so, what "channel"? A couple of us on the FS Forums who are having this same problem are in the Beta channel. Trying to figure out if there's a common link between all of us who cannot seem to use the latest 106.* preview runtime.

[@nandrews10000]

I have similar if not the same spec as you. Used all your settings from here. Nice clear surroundings on the apron. But the cockpit is bouncing as I look up and down and swinging as I look left right. Rather nauseating! Also occasional dragging of one whole section of scenery or a brief black curtain. Not sure where to start tuning.

[@soziologeek3340]

How many frames do you loose when you go from reprojection off to on? ... I tried so often to get reprojection to work but ended up all the time leaving it off on my G2 3080 5800x and 32gb ram. I don't know what it is or if it's normal but it was always a lot more stutters and about 50 to 60% less fps so that I was unable to reach a fluid reprojection. Well but in the end I'm pleased for now with reprojection off, the experience is still awesome but I'm still hoping for some nice jumps in performance with the upcoming updates during the summer :)

[@4secsharkmr352]

Even with your system do not set the graphic options too high. You definitly cause then an CPU Bottleneck because one thread is for shure on 100%. Than the GPU will get too few frames delivered by the CPU. This causes heavy stutters. Motionreprojection helps you if you don't have an bottleneck. If you have round about 40 frames than you are good to go and take a look at the taskmanager. Look at your CPU threads. If one is at 100% you will get stutters. For more indeep information read this: forums.flightsimulator.com/t/my-2070-super-vr-settings-and-suggestion-reverb-g2-wmr/342582

[@soziologeek3340]

@@4secsharkmr352 yeah I know that thread it definitely helped a lot by dialing in my settings. I'd say most of the time I have acceptable frames around 30-40 fps but especially flying low near big airports with photogrammetry around and in overcast/rainy conditions and an additional sunset, fps just tank no matter how low I set the resolution or settings. MSFS sometimes just wants to kill your frames :D ... When I activate reprojection it costs me a lot of frames on average and I really have to painfully reduce the settings to counter that, but in the end there are still these scenarios where it just tanks. With reprojection on it just starts to stutter pretty bad in this occasions so at least for me I always found it to be much more enjoyable to leave it set to off, because of the performance gain and less stutters in these scenarios. I was just wondering what the experience is like for all the people who have reprojection on because I just couldn't reproduce this absolutely smooth experience, how some people describe it.

[@4secsharkmr352]

@@soziologeek3340 may be it is a problem because the Ryzen is @3.8Ghz . Msfs depends on single core performance. May be in summer with DX12 we will get better multicore performance. I hope so.

[@soziologeek3340]

@@4secsharkmr352 3.8ghz is base clock but the single core boost clock is 4.850mhz on the 5800x and I see the boost clock nearly all the time, so no thermal throttling. Average all core boost clock is about 4.650mhz (prime95 or cinebench r20) and because of the higher ipc the 5800x is usually faster than the 10900k so I really don't know why reprojection has such a heavy impact on my system. Maybe I'm really just too much invested into eye candy :D but yeah I really hope the promised performance updates will bring the boost I (we all) need :D

[@4secsharkmr352]

@@soziologeek3340 allright 4.6- 4.8 is more than enough power. The eyecandy is the most demanding factor🤣 yes turn the settings down. The smoothness is most important to bring that needed immersion. I am on I9-9900K@5.0Ghz 64GB RAM@3600 and RTX3090 and had to set most things to Medium High. Most important for me are the clouds. I have set them to Ultra. But all depends on the area you are flying. Sometimes it hard to reach even 35-40 frames. For example London City. That's like robbing Peter and feeding Paul. Wobbles or bad frames per second🤣🤣🤣 Take care and have a nice weekend

[@ashbriant]

Thank's Steve for the info. As for locking the reprojection at 22fps am I right in saying the 'always-on' option rather than 'Automatic'. I haven't been able to fly for a week I am excited to try it out later tomorrow.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Hey Ashley, I haven't tried the always on feature, so let me know how it goes. Happy flying :)

[@captainwealthy]

How to get 'one eye' of the VR to show fully on your main monitor? Just need this for recording/streaming! I use AMD Radeon RX 6900XT and a HP Reverb G2 VR.

[@icecold9511]

New to reverb. Do you still today do a regular edit? And do you leave that openxr window open? I'm trying to find out what I can about using this, as apparently people are getting performance increases with it.

[@laurentspinner7660]

Nice video (again!)! I set my msfs the same way u did. You were right! Very smooth ! Little loss of sharpness inside the cockpit. Have you ever flown over Paris? It's computer challenging. I've just flown across the area with the Cirrus with very little stutter(reprojection set at 75 for more sharpness). I have to test in TBM 900 improvement with Working Tittle 3000.... (My gear is close to yours: Ryzen 5900, RTX 3090, 64 G Ram, Reverb G2 and currently running with last Nvidia drivers). Many thanks for sharing your experience !

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Thankyou I'm really glad this video helped. Paris is definitely a PC killer area but works great with these settings. Take care.

[@jamiesalmonsculpture8599]

Hi Steve, my G2 arrived yesterday and I've been devoting every spare minute I have to it(which admittedly isn't much!). But anyway I've managed to jump into MSFS a couple of times and have been using your settings. So far, it's a pretty noticeable difference to my Quest2, andcin a good way! Much smoother and sharper. Still lots of experimenting to do though. So is the 22.5 in the motion projection something that just kicks in automatically when it's needed? Also, do you think this method you outlined in the openxr tool apply to other sims as well, particularly sim racers? I jumped in Project cars 2 and briefly played around and it seemed to help there as well, I think?! What Nvidia driver are you on these days, still the rolled back one or the latest? Anyway, thanks for all this, it's a HUGE help

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Congrats Jamie! Yes if you have ASW enabled and set preview mode like the video, it will auto adjust depending on fps. All my settings and nvidia driver is in the video. Cheers!

[@NGC008]

Nice one Steve. Do you have to restart the sim and or PC when you make changes to the slider in OpenXR?

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Cheers Bill. Set and forget 👍

[@la-codeband]

Really good job Steve , may I ask for the same type of video for running DCS.. show us how steam VR uses resolution/motion projection etc and what to tweak depending on your system level.. thank you 🙏

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Great suggestion! Thanks for the support

[@Raggistheguy]

@@VRFlightSimGuy I would also love the same type of video for DCS

[@SirTunkur]

Great video, thanks. will give it a try to se how my 5700xt can handle it.

[@ProjectImmersion]

Hi Steve, like you I am a big fan of motion reprojection. I have tried your settings on a similar rig (i9-10900K, 3090 Ultra, 32GB@3800Mhz with M2 drives for OS and MSFS) and they work very well, thanks for posting, but I've stuck with the latest Nvidia drivers 466.27. I tried non-scientifically HAGS/Game mode both ON then OFF and I can't tell any difference at all between them. You asked about locking to 22.5fps/hz, well if you go in to the NVCP > Manage 3D settings > Program settings (rather than Global settings) and select Microsoft Flight Simulator in the drop down (1.) there is an options to set Max Frame Rate in section (2.) below it. I set this to 23fps and it seems to force (as best as it can or very closely) Motion Reprojection on to Refesh rate / 4 (22.5hz).

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Hi thanks for the tip, I have already tried this with mixed results. I think this interferes with ASW and causes periodically induced stuttering.

[@fazpeitia]

Thanks a usual for the video Steve. I have a 3080 and for me this does not work at all. I have same driver and NVDIA settings like you. For me the artifacts are unbearable , not only in the prop but also looking around. The strange thing is that I have WONDERFUL FPS numbers when it is OFF. I always have 50 to 60 FPS in regular areas. It feels great with reprojection off but I can feel it is not 90 of course , but it feels natural and smooth enough (no jitters). You would think with my 50fps of base , reprojection would only need to generate one more frame to get to 90... but even then the artifacts and wobble is horrible . Am I missing something ? Is almost as if I have to be EXACTLY at a multiple of 90 frames for reprojection to crate a clean multiplier and make things smooth enough ? With my natural 50 to 60fps..it just breaks things totally I repeat I have the same OpenXR version and settings (I run the sum with medium settings to achieve such native FPS, but that is the only difference with you)

[@waltersbg]

I have heard other say that if you are shooting for reprojection that you should set your settings to get close to the 45 or 30 or whatever fps it is going to lock at. Since you are happy with yours as is, you probably don't want to tweak anything (haven't we all learned that by now?), but you may find that if you get closer to 45fps before turning on reprojection that it will be smoother. It does make some sense. The problem with not having reprojection is that each time the headset goes to refresh the screen, it may or may not have a new frame ready. So sometimes it will have to display the same frame twice. But only sometimes. Thus, jittering or ghosting. On the other hand, if you turn on reprojection and it "locks" to 45fps, it is generating one fake frame for each real one...even if you don't really need that many. So now you've got it out of synch with the 50-60fps that the game is able to render at and, again, you sometimes end up with the same frame twice or, potentially, skipping frames.

[@4secsharkmr352]

Hi if you have a stabile fps rate over 30 you are good to go. There is no need for motionreprojection On. But if you look hard 90 degrees to the right or left you will see stutters. Fir flying with Airlines thats no problem, but for scenic flying it could be annoying. And than it is time for motionreprojection ON. To reduce the wobbles I am using an propeller mod for standard and deluxe planes. de.flightsim.to/file/3412/10-propeller-mods-for-the-fs2020-standard-edition It helps me lot. Nevertheless If you are flying the HC135 or the Bell47 you will have those artifacts.

[@fazpeitia]

@@4secsharkmr352 thanks for the add on link . I will try it. In my case I don’t see stutters but just natural motion blur as I don’t have 90 FPS . But when flying at 45 or above , it is perfectly mangeable and not annoying. Of course it is awesome seeing clean sections at 90 when I turn reprojection on (which usually locks at 45fps for me), but the vast majority of the landscape , prop , etc is just a jittery fest and totally kills the experience . I truly cannot understand how someone would prefer that to real 45fps . So I must believe that I am missing something here or maybe you guys need to go down to medium settings and 80% resolutions and get your socks blown with real 45 to 60 smooth FPS ?? Lol

[@waltersbg]

@@fazpeitia Yes, basically, you nailed it. When I want to fly in the A320, for instance, my fps with decent settings is in the mid 20's. I turn on reprojection in that case to smooth the cockpit movement more than anything else. I don't know that anybody WANTS to use reprojection. We use it when the end result is better than having it off. In your case, it is better with it off, and that's wonderful! Just enjoy! 🙂

[@4secsharkmr352]

@@fazpeitia 45 fps thats it. I Can't get more: My system: I9-9900K@5.0Ghz 64GB RAM@3600 RTX3090 Settings: Most on Medium to High. Clouds on Ultra. Without motionreprojection the clearity is better. With it it is smoother. Take care and have a nice weekend

[@maxxawesome7412]

Please help. Just bought a new computer. New flight controls, a reverb G2, and MSFS all with the single purpose of VR flight sim. I can get my Reverb G2 to view in VR outside the games/sims--works in Windows Mixed Reality Portal, Open XR Tools VR demo, and Steam VR Portal, but within the MSFS (steam and/or MS Store versions, along with Acro FS and another game I downloaded just to try, when I switch to VR mode, the “Cliff house” Mixed Reality Portal view switches to an animated blue or black and white shattering transition screen animation that turns to black screens in the goggle eyes. The monitor shows the images that should be displayed in the goggles, as if the switch worked and the flight sim audio continues to play through the headset but the goggles go black. Everything brand new this week. Reverb G2. Puma flight controls. Corsair VENGEANCE I7300 GAMING PC, I7-12700K, RTX 3080, 2TB M.2, 32GB DDR5-4800, windows 11 preloaded. Following these steps: Power on G2 Launch WMR Launch OpenXR Launch MSFS2020 Choose aircraft and other flight parameters and launch flight. When flight running stable in 2d, CTRL +Tab into VR. Put on headset. Goggles transition to black. I’ve called HP for about 2 hours ruling out driver updates, specs and cable issues I’ve read about. I have watched several KZbin videos and played with trying to adjust specs and have reset all to defaults again and rebooted between each. I’m not super computer savvy but feel I’ve asked several folks who are now and I’m stuck. I’m hopefully missing something simple. Thanks for any assistance you can offer!

[@aviador168]

Thanks for these great tips! Congratulations for the amazing content of your channel!! What do you think about the last driver of Nvidia? Do you recommend the 457.30 or the new one with this OpenXR update?

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Thankyou Julian you are so kind :) I intend on checking out the new driver soon. I can't keep up with all the update haha. Take care.

[@nij2k]

Awesome mate, only just got round to checking this out, hopefully my 1080ti will see less stutters now on my g2, bit of a daft question, think u already answered it but open xr would only affect Microsoft games wouldn't it, wouldn't affect steam vr games and is it only for WMR headsets

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Thanks Neil let me know how you get on, yes this will only be useful for MS games using WMR Open XR platform. Cheers!

[@coasttocoastcaravanning6138]

Nice one mate jan👍👍👍

[@mcrevolver6399]

Hi! Then.. what happens with Steam Vr settings if I use Open xr? Should I touch it? Back it to normal? . Great job btw !

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Open XR just needs to know the path but won't do anything else, since all the settings are done in Steam VR or WMR portal, or the Pi Tool, or the Vive software... you get the idea!

[@HoldenRiot]

Another great video. Thank you for sharing! What flight stick are you using there at 06:26!?

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Thanks very much! I'm using a 3D printed Spitfire fighter stick. More soon on the channel

[@HoldenRiot]

@@VRFlightSimGuy Sweet!

[@ronangsr]

What about quest 2 ? Csn you do a setup vid for it ? Thanks

[@DDheliservice]

Thank you for answering my question regarding the Nvidia video settings. I have the same pc hardware components as you but unfortunately I cannot set your VR settings in msfs2020 that high, otherwise I have too much stuttering.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Glad I could help!

[@Recon777x]

Trying to get good performance with my G2 and 6900XT. Reprojection on seems to be causing some pretty horrible distortions around the propeller. It's very distracting. Is there no way to remedy that other than putting up with framerate problems? I have a pretty high end system. You'd think it would work well in VR.

[@Recon777x]

Curious why you're using TAA in the antialiasing setting.

[@TeamSethRules]

Gday mate, im using steamvr with oculus Q2 and it does my head in how good one day and how bad the next. I see you talk about chaning regedit to have Q2 use open XR which I have. Looking thorugh your videos, which one tells me how to do this and what I need to load etc to get it to work.

[@Wolfram_Holzbrink]

Thank you for the video, it helps me a lot👍 Ive got a question: which program do you use to record your vr-flights?

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Glad it helps! I use OBS capture mode using the WMR mirror or native view.

[@christopherfinn7986]

Thanks Steve, very useful. Any chance of an equivalent for Aerofly FS2 ? Will take you other recommendation so off for a glass or two of wine ! Rgds Chris.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Cheers Chris enjoy! 🍷

[@4secsharkmr352]

In FS2 use the Vulkan Engine and thats enough for smoothness. Even with a midrange system it is smooth as silk. If you have enough PC power use the Internal Supersampling 1.2-1.5

[@01Rolap]

Thanks Steve. I,ll give it a try.

[@sunoiler]

You can lock your Frames in the Nvidia System. Select the Programm Options in the 3D settings and there is the Option and it works

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

I wouldn't recommend this

[@electrobitnewportapplerepa7219]

Hello! my computer still opens Mixed reality default program ... How can i avoid that please ? Thanks !

[@gregclare]

Are you sure you need to enable the Preview release option? I mean, have you actually tested the Motion Reprojection with and without enabling Preview? Only ask as the settings do not appear to be linked, and Motion Reprojection setting has been in the normal release version for a year now, as I understand it.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

It's currently in beta state. However this may change at any time

[@zfrenchy1716]

I know this video getting old, but what is your commands setting in MSFS2020 to use the HP reverb controller ?

[@richardPalmisano]

how should i launch msf2020 in vr with the mixed reality , openxr and the reverb g2 if i have the steam version? do i launch msf202 from the desktop or from steam becuase when im in msf and open developer tool to chang esettings it gives me a message make sure openxr is installed on your computer. and it is it even says its installed and active

[@johnkeegan6646]

Please refer me to past video of yours that deals with the registry editor. I did not understand what you said on this subject in this video. I do use OpenXR but I don’t know who this relates to the Registry. Help please.

[@4secsharkmr352]

The registry entry shows if the right API is used. Setup OpenXR in the way Steve mentioned and you are good to go. You do not need to manipulate the registry. Cheers

[@johnkeegan6646]

@@4secsharkmr352 thank you😁

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Thanks Uwe for the help here :)

[@John-ly1zt]

As always thanks for your video explanation on this Steve. Now I am heading off for a stiff drink haha !

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

My pleasure John I don't blame you! 🍺

[@John-ly1zt]

@@VRFlightSimGuy Gonna find out what motion reprojection is like after a few stiff ones....it will be interesting to say the least lol

[@thegood9]

I have a system pretty sim to yours, (G2/10900K/3090RTX/128GB---I think you would see some major improvements if you simply upgraded to 32GB, my friend, btw!) and I have to say your recs are dead on. The new Open XR is being pushed to the limits, and Oculus (and Steam VR, quite frankly) is going to get left in the dust eventually.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Thanks Jason 😀

[@stephkera9976]

Thanks Steve. But i still did not get the 45fps thing. Its 90hz...for both eyes? So 45hz per eye? And what is that with 4th frame? I set mine Reverb to 60hz in WMR. So i need 30 fps per eye? Does this make any sense? Thanks for you efforts! ;)

[@waltersbg]

Don't worry about per eye. The displays in the headset are being refreshed (redrawn) at 90hz (or 60hz if you have your reverb set to 60hz). If the game is only able to render frames at, say, 25fps, then you are going to have some ghosting or jittering or other artifact due to the fact that the game is only updating to a new frame at 25 times per second but the headset wants to display a new image 90 times per second (they are out of synch and sometimes you get the same frame twice). For the best smoothness, you want the headset to be receiving 90fps. Of course your GPU cannot render MSFS at 90fps in VR. So, you enable reprojection and the software "creates" extra frames so that the headset is receiving 90 frames per second. These created frames are like a guess of what the frames would look like in between the 25 frames that the game is able to render each second. If the game is able to render half the required frames (45fps or 30fps, depending on how you have the refresh rate of the headset set) then the software only has to "create" one extra frame for each real frame. If you are able to render only 1/3 of the required frames (30fps or 20fps, depending on how you have the refresh rate of the headset set), then the software has to "create" 2 extra frames for every real frame. With this latest change, there are 3 created frames for every real frame, so you have 4 frames total for every frame the game renders. Does that help?

[@stephkera9976]

@@waltersbg Thanks Walter for the effort in typing this. That helped quite a lot! ;)

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

This is excellent. Thankyou for taking the time to write this.

[@4secsharkmr352]

@@waltersbg exact explanation 👍 superb👍

[@daplatt1]

Thanks for the videos, they are much appreciated. I tried the changes but they made things worse! I have a i9 10900k and a 3080. Previously I had preview off and motion projection disabled which gave me a half descent experience. I also have Game Mode off and HAGS off.

[@4secsharkmr352]

Try Steves settings. HAGS and Game Mode ON. OPENXR on 70-80%. Motionreprojection AUTOMATIC. Ingame Renderscale 100%. Most important is to balance the ingame settings. Only set things to high which are important for you. Set the rest to Medium or Low. Than you will get a smooth experience. Fore shure.

[@4secsharkmr352]

This helps too: forums.flightsimulator.com/t/my-2070-super-vr-settings-and-suggestion-reverb-g2-wmr/342582

[@whiteflyingmonkey]

For some reason, motion projection setting in openxr kills my frame rate to the point where its not usable, rtx 3080.

[@timtoomuch]

Hey Steve I'm having issues with msfs with open xr toolkit. I just got a 3080ti and did a clean windows 11 install and when I enable open xr toolkit my reverb g2 won't switch to vr it says it doesn't detect open xr but if I disable open xr toolkit it goes to vr like normal no issues. Any idea what's causing this?

[@speedvr829]

Hello mate. Great videos but I need your help. My rig 3090 10700k 16gb ram X52 pro hotas Now, I can play in 4k on my screen all day long. In vr using oculus quest 2 with link I get problems. I enter vr mode. I can see menu etc in vr. As soon as I hit FLY sim crashes to desktop? It's driving me mad.

[@montrose699]

Does PIMAX work using MIxed Reality instead of Steam?

[@tobylarone3831]

What made you change your clouds from ultra to high?

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

It's has large impact

[@1970cgb]

I use oculus cv1,do i need to enable open xr or does oculus already use (ASW) ?what should i set asw too i run at i run a rtx 3080 and a 3900x cpu

[@4secsharkmr352]

Oculus Software don't need OpenXR. Get the oculus tray tool and set it to 45 or try 27. You even put this on Automatic. For the CV1 try Supersampling settings 1.2-1.8

[@MrBillpam91]

Hello...I have CTD many times in VR. I have a HP Reverb G2. Ryzen 7 3700X 8-Core Processor..............64.0 GB rasm at 3200mhz...............5700xt GPU. I have tried so many different possible solutions and still I have this issue only in VR with MSFS 2020. When I use VR in other sims there is no problem....

[@markmonty9349]

I don't seem to get any benefit from this. I have all the latest updates. When I use the OpenXr "Display Frame Timing Overlay" it shows that it is applying "Depth Reprojection (red colour) and no Full motion Reprojection (blue colour). I actually get a smoother experience with the same graphics settings and Motion Reprojection off so I am doubting that it is working properly for me?! One question would be, does your frame rate jump around not just between 22.5 and 30 fps? Does it go wildly 23,24,25,26,27,28,29 also or should it be fixed to 22.5 or 30 fps?

[@4secsharkmr352]

Hi, don't rely only on motion reprojection. Set up your MsFs setting so that you are able to get round about minimum 30 fps. Than go and enable motionreprojection in OpenXR. The stutters are then minimal.

[@4secsharkmr352]

Hi, don't rely only on motion reprojection. Set up your MsFs setting so that you are able to get round about minimum 30 fps. Than go and enable motionreprojection in OpenXR. The stutters are then minimal.

[@markmonty9349]

@@4secsharkmr352 I appreciate the reply. When I have 30fps and reprojection off I find it smooth enough to use normally. But say if I increase the render scale from 80 to 100 with reprojection off, it is too jittery because the fps falls to 24 fps. At that point I put reprojection on to help with the stutters, it actually drops the fps to 20fps and looks worse, no smoothing at all and a lower fps than with it off. If I check the "Display Frame Timing Overlay" at that point it is full red. Is it working if it is blue only?? How do I know that it is actually kicking in if it is not helping at all?! I'm just trying to determine if it is actually switched on at all because I'm not seeing all these amazing benefits. Only a lower frame rate.

[@4secsharkmr352]

@@markmonty9349 what GPU are you using? It looks like an GPU bottleneck. Sometimes it is an CPU bottleneck too. You can clearly see an CPU bottleneck when one Thread is at 100%. Than your CPU delivers fewer frames as the GPU needs. In that case motionreprojection don't helps. If you have an GPU bottleneck try to lower the graphic settings. Cheers

[@markmonty9349]

@@4secsharkmr352 Thanks again for the reply. I think that could be it. My expectations are too high. I'm using a 2080ti to the limit and then applying reprojection expecting it do the impossible.

[@beosliege]

I can’t use motion reproduction because even the menus prior to flight have jittery/dancing text. How to fix that?

[@4secsharkmr352]

Yes there is a little bit jitter in the menus, but if you set the ingame settings in the right way you are good to go. To reduce the wobbles when flying a single prop download the propeller mod from flightsim.to. it helps lot.

[@4secsharkmr352]

There is a mod for the deluxe aircraft too

[@4secsharkmr352]

Try it. For me it seems to be better.

[@leonmellingen3633]

I bought the game on Steam, do I have to buy it again on Microsoft Store?

[@pawelkrupowicz2539]

There is a max frame rate setting in nVidia settings. Maybe setting it to 23 would do the trick?

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Good idea but it unfortunately creates stuttering.

[@zoranbrasnjo7488]

what is your version of openxr? Steam has option to change runtime from steam vr to openxr, why do you think it will not work with dcs(steam/non steam,)xplane11? How to update openxr? I cant find download link for openxr in the link in the description? I am confused

[@4secsharkmr352]

It works for SteamVR but in settings you have to set the Api to OpenXR. In SteamVR you must enable motion smoothness (automatic) under the game specific Video Tab.

[@zoranbrasnjo7488]

@@4secsharkmr352 thanks

[@TheGhostrider9667]

Dumb question: Do we leave the Open XR program running in the background, or close it?

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Set and forget 👍

[@TheGhostrider9667]

@@VRFlightSimGuy Thanks! Another tip I deployed last night: Set NVIDIA Control Panel back to default in all respects. Now graphics are basically maxed, smooth as butter, no more hiccups and freezes right before landing (or any time) looks gorgeous. i9/3090 RTX/64GB/SSD

[@johncrichton4341]

Steve, does OpenXR automatically select 22.5 FPS or does one have to set it?

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Hey John it's auto depending on the fps your system can reach. What we really need is a Tray Tool like addon to lock it in place, that way it won't jitter about. I'm on the look out for one.

[@johncrichton4341]

@@VRFlightSimGuy Roger that Steve - I'll do the same. I remember you mentioning in an earlier video about the XP11 app that one can open inside of VR and adjust on the go - that would be perfect...

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

@@tobys593 Let me know how it goes thanks.

[@HenryMPHone]

Motion projection does not work for me at all! I have a beefy PC (i910900K, 3090 FE, Reverb G2 and 64GB).

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

It's not for everyone I guess. I personally love it. But I don't always use it and depends on my flying.

[@ChrisStapleton-1geek2many]

I have a 2080s and I use OpenXR at 75 and the sim at 80... Going for a 3090 soon!

[@Killswitch1411]

Good luck on getting a 3090.. Whatever MSRP is lol.

[@jimmypas]

Well done Steve excellent work as normal. Can you show us your quest 2 setup please as I am still struggling with the settings.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Thanks Jimmy sure thing.

[@lisktrium9272]

@@VRFlightSimGuy Yes please.!

[@K0S0s]

Will this make any difference on a quest 2?

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

No sorry. I may do a separate video for the Q2

[@K0S0s]

@@VRFlightSimGuy please dog, I’d love it. I got a 3070 + 10900k I’m trying to get the best performance on :)

[@MadsGranumMusic]

Are you having Rolling Cache on or off in Data settings?

[@4secsharkmr352]

Hi, I have it on because if you have a SSD it is better for the drive. Then there are fewer read cycles and the SSD has less stress.

[@MadsGranumMusic]

And you havent had a performance hit?

[@4secsharkmr352]

@@MadsGranumMusic no performance hit

[@L_Emir_de_Passy]

What is a run time?

[@jamessusbilla]

thank *YOU*

[@maguila7777]

These settings work like a charm on Nvidia 457.30 driver!

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Fantastic 😊

[@LouisB355]

How do you use older drivers like that on 30 series cards, I can’t install below 4.6XX

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

@@LouisB355 I've no idea. I just install it and it works like the other versions.

[@submentalbass]

@@LouisB355 Google old nvidia drivers it will give you an option of advanced search from nvidia just installed 457.30 my self for a 3090

[@submentalbass]

@@LouisB355 www.nvidia.com/Download/Find.aspx

[@nibbler2281]

Does this make a difference in DCS?

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

No sorry

[@4secsharkmr352]

In DCS use the shader mod for VR. Look at their forums.

[@MrMoulebite]

you're flying a piper warrior?

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Yes?

[@MrMoulebite]

@@VRFlightSimGuy where did you find the addon?

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

@@MrMoulebite Just Flight Piper Arrow. 👍

[@MrMoulebite]

@@VRFlightSimGuy oh ok its not a piper warrior... but yeah the just flight is great

[@djtaylorutube]

My solution to having wobbly scenery right in front of the nose is simple. Fly twins! :)

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Love it!

[@4secsharkmr352]

Or download the prop mods from flightsim.to. This helps a lot.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

@@4secsharkmr352 I really need to try this

[@4secsharkmr352]

Hoping not to double post... for the standard planes there is a mod too. With msaddon linker you can easily manage your addons (On flightsim.to too)

[@djtaylorutube]

@@4secsharkmr352 yes it does, I've got that too :)

[@CoderMan]

I've come to realize AMD video cards just don't work for this game in VR or even 2k. All sorts of tearing and jello effect, even on low settings.. wish someone had the answer!

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Sorry to hear that

[@vinylrabbit7295]

I bought a Reverb G2 for the higher resolution of the headset, Why the hell would I set the rendering scale down by 30% to a level of the Oculus headsets to gain framerates ? Of course youre getting better framerates at the expense of the soul reason why you would spend an extra 300 dollars for a Reverb headset.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

You've missed the point rather spectacularly, you lose almost zero clarity and gain a massive performance boost.

[@ChrisStapleton-1geek2many]

I have a 2080s and I have the OpenXr at 75 and the game at 80... Going for a 3090 asap!

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

It's the 3090s trump card. Managing higher resolution in VR 👍

[@a330flyguy2]

Openxr is completely unusable for me. I have a high end system with a 2070s and reverb g2. With motion projection on everything looks like I just ate some funny looking mushrooms, even in the menu screen. Don't know how to fix this.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Turn down your graphics options. 2070 isn't that high end unfortunately.

[@a330flyguy2]

@@VRFlightSimGuy problem exists even in the menu screen though.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

@@a330flyguy2 yeah something definitely isn't right. In the menu screen you should be getting native FPS (when outside the main sim environment)

[@a330flyguy2]

@@VRFlightSimGuy Update: the problem was WMR. I set steamVr as the runtime by going to settings->developer and selecting steamVR as openxr runtime. Now it's buttery smooth.

[@jeff-hd9og]

2070s is midend

[@repvoid7680]

I have no clue how to open Open XR on the G2. I am dumber than a layman when it comes to VR.. wish all of this was more intuitive to open and use.

[@brandodurham]

Oh duh…I knew that was the preview you were talking about… 😆 yeah fs2020 is looking pretty sweet now. Mine still holds 30 fps but over big cities and stuff 22 definitely helps. I force enabled rebar too, but can’t tell any difference better or worse

[@ProjectImmersion]

MSFS is not a rebar enabled game (yet)

[@macmusica]

Again, the preview for Latest OpenXR has always been there in this APP. There is no new added frames for Repro. Show me where they state this. I use 55% with ingame 100% else you can lose rain & ice effects due to bottlenecking. You are repeating basic info as if it's new. It is not.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Yes I know it has. I have a ton of videos about it too. What's your point? This video is about my settings and the new ability for ASW at lower fps than before

[@4secsharkmr352]

Hi, it is depends on how much power your GPU and CPU has. Steve's vid is only about his settings in relation to OpenXR and the ability of getting lower frames with less stutters using motionreprojection. Now it is possible to have under 30fps with less stutters.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

@@4secsharkmr352 Spot on again buddy. Thanks for your help replying to everyone it really helps!! 🍺👍

[@Pow3rus]

I shall show this video to morons who yell at me that I should be able to run anything in HIGH 100% on my G2 since I got a 3080. "Duh you must have a problem dude, rma the card dude" However I think the 4090 will be able to run most games at 100% resolution.

[@scottgoddard7794]

*RE*projection

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Damn. I best scrap this video and start all over again.

[@9duckman9]

What he meant to say was "thanks for the tips, Steve! Great video" 👍