MSFS SIM UPDATE 10 NVIDIA DLSS VR SETTINGS - HP REVERB G2 / VARJO AERO

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

This video is aimed to help fellow simmers find a decent starting point when using DLSS in Sim Update 10. These VR settings work well for me, but have I missed anything? How's the sim working for you? Let me know in the comments below...

[@lollovecchio8510]

Hi, can you do a video for quest 2 setting with dlss? ty!

[@_Arthur-]

Thanks for the tips! Question, why don't you use fixed foveated rendering with the Reverb G2, like you did in the past? Wouldn't that improve the pfs even more?

[@Coccoluto]

U are missing the glass cockpit refresh, to set LOW

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

I cannot see the replies below my message sorry.. KZbin playing silly buggers again.

[@JM1701ABCD]

So for your XR tool kit settings you now have now you’ve turned fixed foviates rendering off correct?

[@jamiesalmonsculpture8599]

Finally experiencing the new SU10 with DLSS in action in VR, has reinforced my my belief of not bothering to upgrade from my 3080 to a 40 series card anytime soon. I mean outside of it being maybe a bit better with native framerates (it's silky smooth already so don't care) and maybe being able to up clarity a fraction (would anyone notice?)....what's the point? Until MSFS itself gets a major graphics update to utilize the extra horsepower of future GPUs, CPUs etc, and better HMDs appear....? The price to performance ratio is just not worth it. I just can't see how it could look many $1000s of dollars better anytime soon, because that's what you'll be spending. I'll give it another 5 years before we notice a generational leap in the MSFS VR experience

[@dabneyoffermein595]

I would stick with your 30 series card for sure. DLSS is a game-changer. But wait till DX-12 is perfected, WOW, it's going to be special to be able to spread all those clock-cycles across all of our 12900K cores (or whichever 12 series intel chip you have).

[@throttlehappy105]

Great information!! Quest 2 operator here 🙋🏻‍♂️ Looking forward to the video on how the quest performs!

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Cheers buddy!

[@jimmy8x541]

After playing without these settings and then switching to them after my first flight I am giving you official permission to say "game changer" Framerate is wonderful. Felt like 35fps minimum on the ground, up over 50++ in areas that aren't as demanding. Clarity is pretty good except for on screens, but it's worth the compromise. Can't wait to get home from work tonight and fly until I pass out. System is 5800X3D + RTX 3080 FTW3 + Reverb G2 for reference.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

That's fantastic thankyou so much for reporting back

[@ward0g415]

Glad to hear you also have a new settings video coming for the Pimax as well. I have the 8KX, and I still haven't managed to get it set up for this game as well as I'd like. Hopefully the new update makes a significant difference.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Sorry folks. It looks like there is an issue with KZbin displaying comments. Let's hope it gets fixed soon

[@joshryken]

Thanks for the video. Exciting update! I’d love to see a Q2 settings video, and hear your thoughts about DX12 whenever the new driver releases.

[@chrishinch8810]

Thanks for all your excellent work. I was just about to post a tirade about how terrible SU10 was - am really glad I didn’t. Yesterday pre SU10, I was getting 30-35fps on my RTX3090+G2 which was the smoothest I’d ever had it - buttery smooth. Only issue was that my Helionix panels in the H145 were “sparkly” like some weird colour antialiasing gone wrong. I installed SU10 this morning, and was devastated to see my frame rate drop to 18 fps. I checked all my settings, turned off DLSS, nope, still 18fps. I was REALLY unhappy… until I noticed that the graphics display mode was set to Windowed, not Full Screen. Set it back to Full Screen, back into VR and BAM!! 40+ fps with multiple CPU-bound warnings. Set graphics mode back to Windowed… back to 18fps. Back to full screen… 40+ fps. Turned DLSS back on, still 40+ fps, even more CPU bound warnings. And even better - despite the Helionix screens being a *little* blurry, the sparkly effect vanished with DLSS on. Hope this helps someone else, but for some reason, windowed mode - at least on my machine - is a frame rate killer.

I thought the reason SU10 was delayed was because Asobo were working with Nvidia to sort the issue with blurry glass cockpits before release. Based on what you say here, I guess sorting it out took longer than expected. Where Asobo decided to release it even with the issue still present. To avoid too much of a delay. Will be interesting to try SU10 out but fact is the performance and clarity I have right now with my Aero is truly amazing. Much thanks to replacing my 8086K with a 129000KS. That made a HUGE difference! Even when my 8086K was running at 5 GHz. Especially, I see the improvement when on the ground or close to it in a complex aircraft such as the PMDG 737. Only problem I've had with the 129000KS initially has been to keep the temp down. As we all know, this CPU is notorious for running hot. Tried many different things and managed fairly well by under-volting it but eventually, I decided to disable HT. I know from the past how HT always caused a massive increase in temps. Often up to 20-25 C. Even without really adding anything good in most cases. Unless you're using software which was specifically designed to make use of it. Which isn't the case with flight simulators. Fact is, having HT enabled have by some been reported to decrease the overall performance and cause the FPS to jump all over the place in some situations. I haven't witnessed that myself but I definitely noticed an increased overall smoothness after having disabled HT. As a very cool (pun intended 😉) bonus, the CPU temp dropped those 20-25 degrees mentioned above. From around 95 C when hottest with HT enabled to 70-75 C with HT disabled. This is with a 360mm AIO in the front as intake of cool air, 2x140mm fans in the top and a 120mm in the rear as exhaust. So a clean and well ventilated case. Wow, this turned out to be a wall of text but now I guess it's time to get SU10 🙂 I was actually planning to do a flight before SU10 but looks like that won't happen. Been waiting for the PMDG 737-800 which I bought yesterday to load for more than 30 minutes now. Maybe related somehow to everyone downloading SU10 🤣

[@dabneyoffermein595]

Hyperthreading Off in the BIOS of my ASUS DDR5 Strix "E" Mobo, correct? Is that exactly what it's called in there? I know I see that in Dell Servers a lot.

[@keigezellig]

So I did some quick testing of SU 10 (Ryzen 9 3900X, RTX 3080, Reverb 2) with various DLSS and DX 12 settings and I noticed that in DX 12 it doesn't make a difference if you turn DLSS on or off, it's equally bad (bad FPS, a lot of stutters). However when using DX 11 and DLSS on Performance mode it makes quite a difference with respect to 'standard' TAA. I did a small flight in downtown NYC with a G1000 plane in different weather conditions (from clear to rainy weather) and i was really positively surprised by the increase in FPS and 'smoothness' when turning DLSS on. I am still not a fan of motion reprojection since it causes a lot of artifacting/tearing which makes me a bit nauseous. Other than that i am really happy (and i will be even happier if the blurry cockpit issue will be solved)

[@dabneyoffermein595]

So what's it like with motion reprojection off? Is that the way you are flying? I'm confused whether it's being recommended or not. Like it has the watery edges for sure in mine with it on but that was before the update today. i have not checked today with DX11, Motion projection on, and DLSS on or should i be doing DX11, Motion projection off, and DLSS on?

[@keigezellig]

@@dabneyoffermein595 What works best for me is DLSS on (Performance mode), DX11 and motion reprojection off. With motion reprojection off (and DLSS) i get smooth graphics. With MR on i didn't notice any improvements over MR off and i got also this 'watery' effect which made me a bit sick.

[@Schwing27]

Are your drivers up to date? I’m getting a massive FPS increase from DLSS off to DLSS to qualify when using DX12

[@dabneyoffermein595]

@@keigezellig ok, great. are you mostly Ultra settings or combo of high and ultra?

[@dabneyoffermein595]

@@Schwing27 Yep, DX12 is a game-changer, at least with a non-overclocked 3090 and an non-overclocked 12900K

[@TAP1992]

Thank you , quest 2 if you have the time sir

[@JGStonedRaider]

It's so nice to be able to play in VR again in the UK since the insane summer ended! Had my first ever real flying lesson last weekend at Headcorn. Let's go boys!!!!

[@BEAGLEBOSS]

Quest 2 video pls

[@samdrago6399]

Please do an updated tutorial for the Quest 2 users! And as always super useful content thank you.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

For openxr Toolkit settings (which is now compatible with DX12) please refer to this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jIG9haaliL2LrJI

[@maik849]

Di i have to use both ? : Open XR Dev. Open XR Tool Kit 1.2.0. What is better for MR ? I try both at the same time and it works !

[@meglinto28]

Please do a settings guide for the quest 2. 👍

[@paulmann8675]

Yes please do a quest 2 update too

[@davidc3071]

What a good job ! Your setting is a game changer for me (i9 10850K + RTX 3090 + 32 Go RAM + SSD). Thank you VR Flight Sim Guy !

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

It's always great to hear when I've helped out a fellow simmer. Thanks for letting me know and safe landings!

[@davidc3071]

@@VRFlightSimGuy Could you share us your last Openxr Toolkit settings in a future video ?

[@petercurrie9959]

my rtx 2060 and quest 2 can now finally play this without making me sick

[@irishbloke99]

Really impressed with this patch, gives a solid fps boost at last!

[@dabneyoffermein595]

Are you seeing fluttering when you move your head? what would cause that? like if i look at the steam guages for example and i move my head, everything is vibrating or becomes blurry until i stop my head again. What setting am I wrong on? (if you wouldn't mind)

[@UkDave3856]

Thanks buddy, you save me so much real world faffing around and I appreciate you for it 👏

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

My pleasure mate :)

[@jimmy8x541]

Thanks so much for this video and your others. I am setting up the Reverb G2 right now, just went for my first ever VR flight without doing many tweaks and I can tell it's going to be a fun experience. Going to mess with some settings and go back in. My maiden VR voyage was in an H145 out of Innsbruck =)

[@jimmy8x541]

btw.. Reverb G2 directly from HP was $350 last weekend. I couldn't pass it up.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Nice one Jimmy that's the bargain of the century right there!

[@GT1GT]

Pimax 8K X Settings will be your next settings Video in MSFS2020?!?

[@billbrowning3021]

The man is on the ball. Thanks for the settings!

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Pleasure Bill :)

[@KoelJ]

Quest 2 vr settings vid please, last one helped a lot, preferably with amd with mid range graphics card ? I have Rx570 with 4gb i found vr actually got worse with update 10 was looking quite nice before.. getting slight stuttering that I cannot remember getting before. Id xrtoolkit still necessary with amd sharpening?

[@julianneale6128]

I'll second that regarding Quest 2!

[@williamwidjaja850]

Help with quest2 VR setting too

[@kevinbrook7033]

I'm downloading the update now. I've never tried DirectX 12 or DLSS in MSFS. It sounds like neither is there yet so I'll probably just stick to the OpenXR toolkit and FSR. My performance is already good enough to not want to sacrifice any visual clarity so if DLSS is not as good as Open XR Toolkit and FSR then I shan't bother with it until they improve it further.

[@dabneyoffermein595]

DLSS is said to be a game-changer by some comments, although the comments in some cases are not working or will not expand, so I can't see the details, but all in all, turn DLSS on for sure and keep DX12 off since it's an Asobo disaster. DX12 is very complicated and I don't even think Asobo can figure it out (as smart as that group is). I think it will take a ton more programming and a few Einsteins to get into the code-mines to get it working.

[@juankaramirez]

In a previous video you mentioned that you were no longer using the Open XR Toolkit companion, on this video looks like you are, can you please share if you recommend using it or not? Thanks

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

For the Varjo Aero, I do not use it anymore. Also it has not been working fully in SU10, however, there is a new update that's just been released and I aim to check it out soon. Things are moving faster than I can make new videos at the moment!

[@pethell448]

I don't know what they have done, but it feels butter smooth on my Computer now. I'm a bit impressed.

[@dabneyoffermein595]

which settings specifically (the tuning for glass panels or the tuning for VFR flight)?

[@pethell448]

​@@dabneyoffermein595 The overall feeling of the Game from SU9 to SU10. The Loading feels a bit faster and doesnt freezing anymore. 2D Monitor performance under dx12 are butter smooth. The Graphics card is quieter because the game maybe is more optimized (It also means I have more headroom for cranking up). VR is looking in my case sharper with DLSS than FSR+TAA to me (Distance view).The typical Artefacts by using WMR-Reprojection. I have a zotac rtx3080 paired with a G2. Additional Note: I didnt put all setting to ultra. This is unrealistic. I compare it with my settings before update. I'm also used to, not to push the G2 Resolution to 100%. She is even with 50%-75% Resolution more sharper and enjoyable than some contemporary Headsets for me. I have three Headsets for compare (Oculus DK2, Oculus Quest, HP Reverb G2). Im excited about how far the new AMD or NVIDIA Graphicscards will push the Performance. :-)

[@DjankoDK]

A donation for you, and one question. I still ahve the Reverb G1 and on other sites they talk about leaving the anisotropic filtering OFF in MFS2020 for both PC and VR, but ON in NVIDIA CARD settings. What are your thoughts about that? Keep up the good work!

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Thankyou so much for your donation. Yes I'd recommend doing this if you are experiencing shimmering in the distance, this can help some users. The Reverb G1 is such a nice headset, I actually regret selling mine. Thanks again.

[@planecrazyOnUtube]

Do Quest2 also, thanks

[@renefeijen5916]

Hi Steve, texture supersampling makes also a very big difference for stuttering. I had it on 8x8, but off or lower is way better, though scenery looks a lot less crisp.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Thx Rene I'll have another play with this setting

[@andreafalasca1932]

I with 2080 ti can now finally fly in VR without seeing everything blurry. the DLSS for me is a salvation. 40fps with performance. 25 with quality. with A320 fbw, however, I still have problems even in maximum performance because the cockpit is too heavy

[@williamwidjaja850]

Help with quest2 VR setting

[@dabneyoffermein595]

Im finding DX12 to be a great option in VR. I have no problems even in mountains and with lots of clouds. What are you finding? So in DX12, what settings in FS2020 + OpenXR Tool + Open XR Toolkit are going to be ideal? Could you make a video on it. Now that I've gone to DX12, I really don't want to go back, it's amazing.

[@joseandrespr]

How do I switch to DX12? I'm stumped...

[@dabneyoffermein595]

@@joseandrespr go to PC settings , not VR settings. once you switch to DX12 , it changes it for the entire SIM

[@joseandrespr]

@@dabneyoffermein595 that worked thank you!

[@74amazing]

Great settings. Can confirm very good results with a rtx 3080 in combination with a g2. Thanks alot!

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Great to hear!

[@chuckp210]

I would really appreciate it if you could do the same for the Quest 2.

[@firing_pin9971]

lets see a quest 2 version please

[@mattchristie1810]

After a bit of tinkering I finally got some decent performance out of SU10 and DLSS (performance) on my RTX3070. I had to enable FOV rendering in the Open XR toolkit too, but got there in the end. I did however notice that performance still drops quite massively going over built up areas. These are obviously more intensive on the sim anyway, but the drop is very noticable compared to SU9 and pre-DLSS. I think MS/Asobo still have some work to do there.

[@KaitlynnUK]

3090Ti, i9-10900K, 32Gb RAM and even on Quality DLSS makes the panels in the PMDG 737 simply dreadful, so that will be staying off for now. Thanks for the video and info.

[@strikkflypilot927]

Not just the panels. I have the same setup as You. I thought everything further out than 50m looks blurry…

[@Nexter1]

Any overall improvement outside of DLSS for you?

[@andreafalasca1932]

with your configuration instead I now activating dlss is a new sim for me. visual quality and excellent fps finally. sure you don't have some wrong setting?

[@KaitlynnUK]

I flew twice yesterday = 2 CTDs. Installed the nvidia studio driver and flew this morning.... total lagfest, I am so depressed.

[@michaeldomanski2472]

3080Ti - High-end PC, Used your settings, but noticed micro-stuttering when you move your head side to side in the Reverb V2 G2 whilst looking at images, buildings etc. What adjustment do you recommend adjusting to mitigate the micro-stuttering?

[@moschidreamer]

I have to check if I have Studio Driver installed like Arnold Aaron said. You need Game Ready Driver. I have the same here. Before SU10 I did not notice it, but when I fly narror Curves, all Buildings and thinks is microstuttering. Thought it´s the FPS... but do not know. My 30FPS is no good. Tried everything except get rid of Studio Driver (have to check after work) and switch on DX12. Will see.

[@paulovenz8037]

Please do a video for the 8kx, 😊thank you

[@simracingjunky9679]

I wonder if DLSS 3 will work in VR and be any good.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

For now ..

[@theukdave2433]

Are you saying that DLSS - Quality is a 5FPS hit over performance/balanced? Or is it worse than TAA? I find it incredible that it would be slower than standard anti-aliasing, if that's the case, they really haven't sorted DLSS out yet!

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

For example - DLSS performance 55 - 45fps, quality 38-40fps - TAA mode - 30-35fps with same settings.

[@jasonemery8375]

Hi Steve. I got a reverb G2 on your recommendations and it’s great but I can’t use it without Steam VR is this correct or do I need to alter a setting to use windows mixed reality? I had a rift S and a quest 2 before. Loving your content and following it loads regards Jase

[@FrankwithersIMG]

I am getting really fed up with CTD; I have a very clean system with Rtx 3090, 12700k, 64gb of ram, samsung hmd, latest drivers, and I just cannot avoid CTD in this system. There was a time when it would run pretty well, but right now the game can almost never make it to 15m before a CTD in VR. Just absolutely ruining my experience. Are you not experiencing any CTD?

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Sorry to hear that Frank, I haven't had any CTDs in the public SU10 release

[@markm75]

I did a few tests, with openxr toolkit not active with the aero (or even if its active), the openxr tools custom render scale slider has no effect on the sim and its frame rate. Also, just turning off scaling and fov rendering in the tool doesnt do the same as unchecking fs2020 in the openxr toolkit, the frame rate drops significantly if you just turn off scaling in the pop up menu in sim (so no way to use post processing adjustments without having a fps loss), therefore i think it might be better having it active and the slider at 92% or higher in the in sim pop up to be able to utilize post processing (visually the same with DLSS).

[@Chainsmoker_vr]

So in your personal opinion as a developer where shoúld i put my money 💰 as a application builder bot developer AI user ect. Would running multiple be ideal or is there one particular headset that just has development for the future in mind.

[@uruwashii5231]

Great video… will you be sharing any updated OpenXR toolkit settings too since the SU10 release?

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Thankyou, I sure will :)

[@ji3200]

Do you think hp reverb g2 clearity is much better than Quest 2?

[@smoothoscillator1]

I have both and the reverb g2 clarity and color are much better than quest 2

[@VroodenTheGreat]

I absolutely know that for a fact and I don't own either one of them.

[@TallWestEddy]

Hey! As ever love your work. Is this the latest settings for 4090?? I’ve got one and about to get back into the cockpit

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Thanks so much for your support :) This is really for 3090 owners but will give you a good starting point :)

[@ronancullen4565]

hey, any chance of a new updated settings video for the Quest 2 ? thanks

[@ArnoldAaron]

I'm extremely disappointed with VR. Played with every setting from OpenXR, to DLSS and and the toolkit. (Done various combinations of these elements both on and off), but the clarity is now very much worse in VR, and even when in DLSS 'Quality', picture while a little sharper, I get an extremely poor frame rate. Even back on TAA and my old settings, frame rates are extremely poor, both on DX 11& DX 12. Why is this? Previously I was getting beautifully fast frame rates, and beautifully sharp picture in VR. I'm using the Reverb G2 + RTX 3080. Using the latest Studio driver which released yesterday. Anyone else worse off after this update? Can anyone help?

[@joseandrespr]

Having the exact same experience... Only way I can use DLSS is in extreme performance and at that point its super blurry.

[@ArnoldAaron]

@@joseandrespr PROBLEM SORTED AND NOW CLEARED! - I REMOVED THE STUDIO DRIVER AND INSTALLED THE LATEST NVIDIA GAME READY DRIVER (8TH SEPT.), AND THANKFULLY ALL WORKS BEAUTIFULY NOW, LIKE EVERYONE ELSE! - PHEWWWW.....!

[@joseandrespr]

@@ArnoldAaron You my friend... have solved my mistery! thank you, thank you!

[@moschidreamer]

@@ArnoldAaron Studio Driver? Hm.. I have to check today. I get max. 35 FPS RTX 3080ti, Intel Core i9 11900KF; Toolkit, DLSS, Reverb G2. Thanks for this Info

[@Lonsome1223]

Well, I've noticed a very big increase in FPS in VR since this update the only problem for me is the VFR map not working. Most settings high. Intel core i7 Q2 head set.

[@davidhorobin1060]

Tried DLSS but reverted to TAA because it made my GTN750 blurry.

[@ArnoldAaron]

I have the same problem see my post above

[@ArnoldAaron]

PROBLEM SORTED AND NOW CLEARED! - I REMOVED THE STUDIO DRIVER (21 SEPT 22 RELEASE) WHICH I WAS USING AND INSTALLED THE LATEST NVIDIA GAME READY DRIVER (8TH SEPT.), AND THANKFULLY ALL WORKS BEAUTIFULY NOW, LIKE EVERYONE ELSE! - PHEWWWW.....!

[@Bawdog4]

Same issue here

[@timmeeyh6523]

How would my rig do? My rig is a 4070 + i5 8400 + oculus rift - would dlss and framegen get me over the hump?

[@NorwegianDrone]

Thank you so much

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

No problem 😊

[@Jan-1337]

Hey Steve, thanks for the video and all your tips over the past!:) Not that you can solve my pc problems, but the dlss option is not displayed for me at all. i only can choose between "off, fxaa, dlaa and taa". I have an rtx 3080 and installed the SU10 beta at some point. there i could use the dlss option. After the "official" update this is gone. 1. have you heard of the problem? 2. how to completely and I mean completely uninstall msfs 2020? with the normal uninstall, there is still data on my pc. i would then try do a fresh install. Maybe you have a good link that explains how to Do it thanks in advance, you are the best even if you do not know the solution! have a nice sunday!:)

[@Jan-1337]

I just installed the new driver from today and it appears now! :) sorry bothering! have a nice week:)

[@millar876]

Please do one for quest 2

[@aDogdoor]

+1

[@markm75]

Hey there, curious if with the 310R (and Aero) if you have noticed this bug (i've confirmed at least it seems to be this airplane), if you go into VR initially, the frame rate is fine, but if you exit VR, wait even 5-10 secs, it tanks quite a bit and doesnt recover without reloading MSFS? I tried a similar test with the built in Baron but didnt have this issue. EDIT: seems having the openxr toolkit enabled does this, particularly with this model only so far (and you get lag in the head turning after reenabling vr)

[@CaribbeanSimPilot]

Is the openXR windows tool needed for quest 2? I have openXR toolkit, but I assume that does the same thing?

[@spediegunz]

Is any of the this info different for sim update 11 got an aero for Christmas paired with a 3090ti 12900k going to follow this guide to setup unless you say otherwise ?

[@chrsfincher]

Updated and now it's telling me that initialization of vr failed. I have no clue why I didn't change anything

[@hausnm]

Steve, why is there global rendering quality empty in the menu ?

[@joejoe2658]

please mention rift CV1 settings in a video.

[@blackhero911]

After the update I can't get into vr anymore. I even went to beta and found that the game crashes in pc mode too. so I probably have to reinstall the simulation game without any add ons. what do you think?

[@christianpulvirenti9882]

HI.. I have 3080ti and Reverb G2. I fly with Helicopter in VFR. This setting is ok for me?

[@LarryOnKeys]

In a previous video, didn't you say preview mode off will reduce jitters?

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Hi Larry things change fast, at the moment you are all good to use it.

[@denielscaletta3488]

Please for quest 2 🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@robertmcmahon4549]

After the update the game says it has to close due to" pc overheating,overclocked or update driver" error everytime it loads to menu,i stopped playing the game a couple months ago because the last update caused it to crash when flying,the game is just a pain,dont have any issues with any other game

[@Lonsome1223]

Lost the VFR map since this update just shows up blank.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Same!

[@dabneyoffermein595]

My VFR Map is working fine. I have mine set to come up by default in the cockpit. Works in the F18, Cessna 172, Caravan and other aircraft so far. I'll let you know if I have any issues with other aircraft.

[@davidhorobin1060]

Yes, me too. Such is progress - two steps forward and one back!

[@tangolima4148]

A bit too much back and forth on G2 and Aero. What is the best setup for the Varjo? DLSS or TAA?

[@Drmerlin604]

I think that the video explains the settings really clearly. I am using the Aero and am very pleased with DLSS.

[@pellman87]

Why would "Always on" on motion reprojection cause more artifacts that automatic? It just means it's always on

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Because if for whatever reason it drops below the threshold, it will turn off.

[@jamiesalmonsculpture8599]

Do you need to have the latest Nvidia driver, I'm guessing not?

[@ward0g415]

From the patch notes, Asobo says some of the DirectX 12 features will need it, but Nvidia hasn't released their driver update yet. Hopefully that will be released very soon as well.

[@robertmcmahon4549]

It keeps crashing at menu and says i need to update driver so maybe you do need latest,i have the previous driver

[@jamiesalmonsculpture8599]

@@robertmcmahon4549 I just updated to SU10, and I don't have the latest Nvidia driver, can't remember which one right now, but from last year. Everything works really well so far. No crashing for me at least

[@robertmcmahon4549]

@@jamiesalmonsculpture8599 thats cool,must be something else causing an issue for me,cant get past the menu

[@dabneyoffermein595]

there isn't a new nVidia graphics driver, i check this morning and i was already up to date so I would not even check.

[@JIMJAMSC]

In VR "Valve" I lost my in cockpit VFR map. It pops up but is blank. Turning on the iso lines / gps does nothing. Hmm....

[@wouldntyou_like_to_know]

same here but i'm using the openxr runtime instead of steamvr

[@jimmy8x541]

a very noob question for you, what is the 'correct' way to launch ms flight sim for vr mode? Should I be in windows mixed reality and launch flight sim on the desktop, then switch to vr mode?

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

I always load the VR headset and software first, then the sim. I only then go into VR once I've loaded my flight

[@jimmy8x541]

@@VRFlightSimGuy I'm having a lot of trouble with random crashes and performance slowdowns. Example just now I was in game and flying and everything running perfectly smooth. Then I hit "Restart" in the menu and when it loaded in again the game was basically a slideshow and running at like 5 FPS. Thank I'm gonna go nuclear and totally format my system and start fresh.

[@moschidreamer]

5:46 DX12 would recommend or would´ nd recommend. I do not understand, was spoken to fast.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Sorry, would NOT recommend. But that's just a personal preference. Give it a shot and see how you get on.

[@Max_power747]

SU10 has not worked for me very poor performance 😢😢 Come on MSFS/ Asobo it’s time you got this sorted by now!! Going back to old settings as these works.😩

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Strange Neil I'm sorry to hear that. I've just done a quick test flight with my settings and everything feels great. Maybe a fresh install is in order?

[@Max_power747]

@@VRFlightSimGuy I’ll give it a go. just one question did you lose your market place option in MSFS as I have can’t purchase anything. Thanks for replying 😁

[@davidwaVR]

Just so VR users understand why he said to turn off the ssao or ambient setting was that is fake VR for 2D screens and when you have two screens trying to represent alternate frames it causes a lot of problems in addition to ruining the VR experience

[@Hayness]

Thanks, I was curious about that. What about Contact Shadows?

[@davidwaVR]

@@Hayness I'm not sure, I haven't heard that terminology although I do know that shadowing is a secondary frame system layered into the graphics. And anyone who's done basic testing knows that the shadowing is one of the heaviest hitters for FPS. Definitely tested on and off and see if it affects the image so much that it's not worth turning it off. In many cases if you see a image Improvement.

[@dabneyoffermein595]

if we have an nVidia control panel setting wrong, does that mess all the settings up that you worked so hard on for us? Do we need to start there first?

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

I use default settings apart from, prefer max performance and texture quality set to performance.

[@dabneyoffermein595]

@@VRFlightSimGuy ok, so I will do a reset to default just to reshuffle the deck and then I will apply the two settings you suggest. I have tinkered with that so much I've probably screwed it up. Thanks mate! Are you sure there is not another setting you change in there, like the "Threaded Optimization" ?

[@dabneyoffermein595]

Should i have my Intel 12900K Hyperthreading on or off? And what about Intel Virtualization Technology Enabled or Disabled (VMX)? BIOS Settings

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

I've no idea sorry.

[@xalau5270]

has it been updated for gamepass?

[@Lonsome1223]

Massive increase in frame rates over London 50 fps in VR mode most settings high Coranado Seneca and Q2 head set.Only problem so far VFR map not working.

[@anthonylitchfield4853]

Im upgrading my gpu from 3070ti,would you say its worth getting a 3080 or jump to 3090.Wondering what the performane jump would be like between the two ?

[@einfussganger]

I'd go for a 3090. Here in November 2022, people are selling their 3090's to get the new 4090 and you can pick up a 3090 for about $800 USD.

[@anthonylitchfield4853]

@@einfussganger not so cheap in the uk still around £1500

[@Zane4428]

So there are performance gains with TAA vs SU9 as well?

[@dabneyoffermein595]

No

[@TheSkyHawkMT]

so you're not using DLSS in VR, with Reverb G2?

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Yes and no, depending on what type of flying I'm doing. For VFR flights using stem gauge aircraft, DLSS all the way, especially with MR on, it's fantastic.

[@mattbeny968]

I had a bad Lesson with g2 it wasnt smooth when i look right or left

[@dabneyoffermein595]

that's just the G2 , that's normal. Turn motion Re-projection OFF

[@bulversteher]

These settings are all great except for one fundamental thing: You cannot ever reach the necessary 90fps even on a 3080ti with them, so you'll have to live with a stuttery mess everytime you move your head (reason #1 for using VR) and you cannot turn your plane (reason #1 for sim flying) - which personally I find inacceptable. The thing with VR is, stuttering isn't gradual - any frametime of more than 11 ms will lead to it. So I did everything as explained and on top of that just turned on motion reprojection in OpenXR and voilà - everything smooth as coconut milk. The motion reprojection settings in FS2020 don't do anything strangely. And from then on I turned up one quality setting after another until IQ was as great as on the monitor and still never dropped below 30 fps according to the OpenXR overlay. That'll deliver a reliable 90 fps / sub 11 ms frametime to the headset. Granted, you can't fly anything with a prop on the nose or you'll find yourself on an acid trip and the menus will be all wonky, but with an Icon A5, the King Air, DA62, any jet or the upcoming gliders, the experience will be awesome. DLSS does a impressive job, except for HUD in the Super Hornet. First time I truly noticed why I paid all that money for it, to be honest. BTW, fixed foveated rendering in OpenXR can be set to smaller circle diameters as well, without actually getting noticable. Because with 90fps you can do what you're supposed to do anyway: Turn your head to where you're looking while flying. Bottom line: Thank you so much @VR Flight Sim Guy for the great starting point - but if you can live with not flying every single plane in the sim, I'd suggest to try motion reprojection.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

I mention MR in this video and I'm a strong advocate for trying it. Thanks for your comments.

[@bulversteher]

@@VRFlightSimGuy Doesn't FS2020's own MR do anything for you either? In my case, it doesn't even remember the setting correctly, falls back from depth + motion to depth only.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

@@bulversteher I talk about this in my video, did you watch all of it? ;)

[@bulversteher]

​@@VRFlightSimGuy I'll re-watch :)

[@bulversteher]

Seems like I wasn't paying attention exactly when you were talking about MR. 🙈

[@markm75]

Curious, with the aero and your settings, what sorta of frame rate do you get at EGLC with a glass cockpit like the 310 and overcast? Mine seems to be around 40-47 i think, i can get 50 plus at other locations.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Same as you, if not slightly lower!

[@markm75]

@@VRFlightSimGuy ah ok, so for now as good as areas like that can get (i think the aero is pretty darn smooth at 45 plus), happy flying 😎

[@wouldntyou_like_to_know]

Do I need to manually leave the beta for the update to show?

[@fabiobasilio8570]

I would like to know this also...

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

I'm not sure... I always opt out in prep before the update.

[@bigalsplayin]

Well I'm not happy with SU10 . It has made my simming worst it has ever been since i first got MSFS . It's now trying to use most of my CPU . No matter what I do or settings I use it's just crap . So the 3080 I bought & was working great in SU9 is now not being used at all maybe 40% . Anyone else having this issue or am I the only unlucky one in the world .

[@ArnoldAaron]

Yes me to the clarity is now horrible in vr.. is a copy of my post above..... I'm extremely disappointed with VR. Played with every setting from OpenXR, to DLSS and and the toolkit. (Done various combinations of these elements both on and off), but the clarity is now very much worse in VR, and even when in DLSS 'Quality', picture while a little sharper, I get an extremely poor frame rate. Even back on TAA and my old settings, frame rates are extremely poor, both on DX 11& DX 12. Why is this? Previously I was getting beautifully fast frame rates, and beautifully sharp picture in VR. I'm using the Reverb G2 + RTX 3080. Using the latest Studio driver which released yesterday. Anyone else worse off after this update? Can anyone help?

[@Schwing27]

Did you update your drivers? It’s working great for me. Same card. My card is running at its full potential. (Nearly 100%). If yours is only running at 40% something is wrong.

[@ArnoldAaron]

@@Schwing27 I've update to the latest Studio Nvidia driver which released yesterday... (new Gamre ready driver not out yet)

[@Schwing27]

@@ArnoldAaron maybe try to reinstall it. I’m not sure what could be wrong. Everyone’s system is different. So it’s hard to pinpoint any issues. Sometimes just reinstalling a driver can fix things. Make sure it’s a fresh clean install. Your GPU shouldn’t only be running at 40%. Unless it’s bottlenecked by your cpu or something but it sounds like it was working fine for you earlier.. so I’m not sure.

[@ArnoldAaron]

@@Schwing27 How do I check GPU usage? Using Afterburner?

[@mattbeny968]

I prefer pimax or varjo

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Varjo is included in this guide.

[@mattiabarchi9982]

Has anyone noticed the worst definition with the DLSS especially on glass instruments?

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Yes, it's the first thing I highlight in this video.

[@dabneyoffermein595]

He said it in the video, said the glass panels were atrociously blurry but for steam guages and VFR it would be ok. Remember him saying "with your head out the window"?

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

@@dabneyoffermein595 I do wonder sometimes haha thanks man

[@poolhallshark]

👍👍

[@ComdrStew]

Just found out Update 10 came out, lol.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Come on Stew, you're slacking mate ;)

[@camilandtati]

For those of us on the Beta, does SU10 final replace the current latest beta, or do we need to do something different to replace the beta with the final version? Thanks!!

[@Serpico360]

If you were on the beta, you should already have the final version of Sim Update 10. Beta testers had it for about a week now.

[@GizmoMaltese]

I find DLSS to be a massive disappointment because of the clarity loss. The promise was you couldn't tell the difference in quality. That was a lie. With my 3090 it's already smooth enough with the tool kit foveated rendering, I don't want to lose clarity at all.

[@randomguydoes2901]

it's not even funny how ass it looks in VR. Even a 3rd party fsr plugin works with benefit and no artefacts in 99% of my games. DLSS is enabled for a few of them, and ot looks awful. No Mans Sky is awful enough to give me a reason to use DLSS because FSR doesn't help with the games jaggies. TL;DR The game needs to look and run incredibly bad to make it DLSS worth turning on if you're using it for VR. VR happens to be very demanding, and DLSS entirely fails to deliver any value there.

[@hpharold23]

Did you increase FidelityFX sharpening up?

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

I did warn you at the start of the video. Hopefully it will improve with Nvidia driver support.

[@dabneyoffermein595]

Can i get your foveated settings for your 3090, I can't seem to dial them in right, and the result is sketchy.

[@dabneyoffermein595]

What setting "Performance" or "Quality"

[@pedroarraztoa2789]

I am not going to say game changer (but I will).😆