MSI Prestige 13 AI Evo REVIEW

[@daliangilbert]

My first MSI laptop was not fortunate with replaced mainboard on warranty, and second and last was MSI Prestige laptop was on 8th gen i7 U processor. It was surprisingly slow and worked much more efficient on charger, what caused main issue without any software for battery saving (e.g. charging to max 60% when mostly on charger), battery wear was on 30% after 1,5 year of using. I'm really wondering if MSI did their homework for that points. Because you didn't mention about that, I need to ask.

[@rohitshelar8360]

can it handle lightroom and photoshop smoothly for 6-8 hours? please reply on this. i am looking forward to buy this laptop. thank you for review.

[@HekaWaset]

This should tell us a lot about the performance of the upcoming MSI Claw handheld.

[@Hubwood]

I hope not. That would be terrible 😅

[@davidm2418]

I'm torn. There is an Asus Zenbook 14 OLED with the same new Intel Ultra 7 155H chip and practically identical remaining specs to this, and at the same price point. MSI's advantages are wifi 7 (Asus is wifi 6e) and an SD card reader. But early reports on the Asus seem like it might have better build quality and has spec'd their screen at 0.2ms response time. Haven't found MSI's screen info outside of resolution and nits. So at the same price, which would you go for?

[@Hubwood]

Probably the ASUS...

[@davidm2418]

@@Hubwood I actually pulled the trigger on the Asus. Didn't realize when I posted that comment that this MSI Prestige 13 has a 60hz screen. Asus is 120hz. I'll give up the micro SD card reader and newer wifi 7 chip for the better screen any day. That said, I did hear the thermals run hotter on Asus, so hopefully that doesn't mean throttling, but I'm about to find out regardless.

[@sirarthur91]

​@@davidm2418helo dude any update on this thermal issue?

[@davidm2418]

@@sirarthur91 Apparently the 155H runs hot and that's "normal". I get sketched out when I see a chip pinning 90c+, but apparently the thermal ceiling for this chipset is 110c. Desktop people probably lose their minds seeing average temps that high. And it does get noticeably hot if actually using it on your lap. Not as much from the keyboard though, which is good. I maxed out the fan curves to try to fight this as best I can, so it can get loud under load. But I haven't see throttling yet. Although, I also don't do much sustained computing, so I don't think I'm the best person to ask.

[@SerCommander]

MSI and rattling is pretty normal. Until something breaks or catches fire.

[@ignatiuschristianto8286]

I would like to add. My experience with MSI build quality is disappointing. I have a modern 15 1165g7 version, it has HDMI and keyboard problem. Definitely staying away, especially after watching this.

[@LightOfGod-m1y]

bunch of apple npcs

[@NootNoot.]

2:24 ???? 😳 Waited for your MTL review and it didn't disappoint! This checks all the boxes for an ultrabook content creation machine (ahem AMD, maybe pair HawkPoint without dGPUs). The fact that you got a weird MSI issue still seems to me MSI is cursed in some sort of way, as per my experiences with MSI laptops. The 20W issue is definitely weird, while not a testament to your review, I still feel MTL reviews aren't 'complete' as in it still really isn't consistent across the board. This primarily may be because Intel was premature in their execution trying to release in (very late Q4) 2023. While maybe getting another unit is better for gaming comparisons, do you think it's worth the wait for more mature drivers/bios updates? Cuz unless a driver update has noticeable perf improvements, I feel like across reviews, expectations of perf for MTL will be different if data always changes. Also if you compare it with the 780m, I trust you pairing it with similar ram because so far it's really hard to find a review that does just that lol

[@alderlake12th]

The BIOS update??Also, this one limit the performance, but still the best igpu Waiting for the ultimate combat: RXX780M vs Arc 128EUs (8 Xe)

[@HDRPC]

Sir can you please check task manager? Those LP-E cores are working in idle or not?

[@mutawi3i]

U should review the major x10 from erazer Medion. Only Arc equipped laptop. Very good specs with 12gb vram.

[@tomis181]

Lenovo needs to copy this in the x1 nano format. Ports and battery. Maybe a different screen but that depends on taste

[@aisu5969]

should i get this or macbook pro or air?? for editing, design, rendering

[@BoraHorzaGobuchul]

Hard to answer if you don't want to know which you want... Is like which I want, an apple or an orange?

[@aisu5969]

@@BoraHorzaGobuchul not same thing. I said my needs to see the opinions of the people who is more experienced than me. If someone is using macbook air or pro for rendering, they would be more experienced and know which one will do my job. Because air is fanless, rendering takes much more time on air for example. Since 3 month has passed I already know all about both of these models and more now and I decided based on people’s comments and my research

[@BoraHorzaGobuchul]

@@aisu5969 that's good to know. I'm an old-style guy and don't particularly condone using notebooks for heavy computing tasks like rendering, there's good old-fashioned workstations/hpdt for that.

[@aisu5969]

@@BoraHorzaGobuchul I eventually came to the same conclusion after 3 months of search and as a result, yesterday I bought a set up including PC, monitor and one macbook air for school/ light works. Thanks for sharing your opinion by the way

[@BoraHorzaGobuchul]

@@aisu5969 looks like you've arrived at the optimal solution, glad to hear! Best of luck in your endeavors!

[@Lokuz25]

Denkst du das es nur ein vorübergehendes Problem mit der Drosselung der Watt ist oder wird man das gefixt bekommen. Bin nämlich grad noch am warten das ich mir ein 2 in 1 Notebook mit Intel Core Ultra zulege. Und wenn das ein Dauerproblem ist werd ich doch noch zu den günstigeren Intel i7-1360P greifen

[@Hubwood]

Ist ein Problem dieses laptops! Nicht des Prozessors!

[@Coconutgl]

MSI just announced a new gaming handheld which using ultra core, will it work badly like this?

[@Hubwood]

I hope not. And I think that is unrealistic. It would be dead on arrival. They couldn't release it in such a state.

[@MnemonicCarrier]

I wonder if Linux will run on this beautiful laptop (and if Linux can achieve similar battery performance) 🤔...

[@warrior_sahil356]

one doubt Pls suggest one Rtx 4050 +ryzen 7 7765hs , QHD display 165 hz 999 usd Or Rtx 4060 + i7 13700h full hd display 165 hz 1099 usd

[@lokeung0807]

4060+i7 for sure

[@warrior_sahil356]

@@lokeung0807 bro buy how will i can use dlss As it will drop down render resolution below 1080p so image quality will be worse

[@lokeung0807]

@@warrior_sahil356 but 4060 is more powerful, you can use better settings

[@K543]

Is this running with bios E13Q2IMS.103?

[@Hubwood]

No, 102. 103 was released after the video was finished and I had to send back the test unit.

[@K543]

@@Hubwood There is a driver issue below 28W causing a bigger than expected performance drop off in iGPU workloads. A test driver is in the works said golden pig. Release was planned for this month.

[@Hubwood]

@@K543 Yeah as I was assuming/hoping that it would be fixed... :) Intel and their drivers... ts ts ts ;) Thx for sharing!

[@K543]

@@Hubwood Intel DTT often slows down iGPU gaming, if it's installed maybe it is a good idea to try out without DTT. I have seen MTL reviews where DTT off runs much better.

[@adrianTNT]

2:18 I felt that

[@pangtundure]

Exited to check out msi handhelds

[@Hubwood]

I will once it's available

[@pangtundure]

@@Hubwood yeah it's using intel and I'm Curious af. Just got my ally and I'm going through couple of old games rn like Sleeping Dogs, Watch Dogs 1 and it's super fun especially the Display. Tanks for the Vids brother

[@teompa]

Does anyone know if DaVinci Resolve runs on this laptop?

[@ameursrihaa2595]

hello, can you tell me what I choose between GIGABYTE G5 KF -I5 12500H - 32 GO RAM - RTX 4060 8G OR MSI GF63 12VF-414XFR / I5-12450H / RTX 4060 8G / 32 GO LAPTOP and thnx

[@AMDNRD]

sorry i’m kinda late but i would assume the gigabyte one would be better as it has a 12500h instead of a 12450h

[@frankwong9486]

Strongest gpu in bechnark yes , in game will need some drive update maybe

[@Hubwood]

Or BIOS updates...

[@lufasumafalu5069]

AW2 test fps when

[@Phantom_961]

115W turbo boost 💀

[@Hubwood]

Not with this 13 inch Ultra Book 😅

[@Phantom_961]

@Hubwood Idk, I'm AMD fan. 😊😀

[@TrusteftTech]

Intel IGPU FIGHT POWER!!!! Pass. No matter what generation, they suck at it. They find ways to destroy the experience. Definitely not touching Intel for my next laptop (lol as I can't afford one, but the spirit is there!) I don't understand why they put such high resolution monitors in laptops. I really don't. Not just this MSI laptop, but in general. As for the fan issue, I hope you get to return the laptop as I wouldn't trust it keep working for long as is. Also, nice touch for the increased EU price. By that I mean the opposite. Thanks for a very good review.

[@Burbanana]

ETA Prime promotes, he never reviews.

[@eric131313]

Msi is ass of laptop world ; cheap materials, ugly designs, gimmick/cringe naming etc

[@jeji5860]

Yep, heard so many bad stuff about them.

[@williemcclure8112]

Terrible laptop.

[@completeglobalsaturation]

​@@williemcclure8112can you elaborate on why you think so?