MSM-03 Gogg - Amphibious Analysis

[@acguy907]

Gogg is a good friend of mine. He's nice guy

[@slothcakes]

never meet him, leave a good word for me next time you see him

[@acguy907]

@@slothcakes fun fact every human in my universe is dead i don't have a pilot i just am an advanced ai

[@JeanLucCaptain]

ACK! IT'S THAT GUY!

[@furymin1221]

Question; are the zeon suits and federation suits good with each other? No fighting and such?

[@Sl1meRabb1t]

​@@acguy907great story idea... Kinda wish someone would do it.

[@joncandib1721]

A Gogg is a ocean god and it has to deliver judgement.

[@AzraelThanatos]

Just as a thing about the torpedoes being front/belly mounted, that doesn't matter as much as long as you're not shooting them at the target point blank...which you probably aren't doing that anyway unless you're already in trouble. They're guided weapons there that can be fired to go around you or a lot of other things with it. Honestly, I think the main Gogg and the origin one are the same basic machine, the Thunderbolt one is a heavily customized ones that seem to be more of designed more for aquatic deployment but arctic combat there while the original is intended to, largely, be fighting in the water with some surface combat being something it's capable of but not optimized for.

[@JeanLucCaptain]

Gogg would be great at the BRIGHT NOA SLAP😂🤣. But seriously there's no reason not to have heat blades as you could simply turn them off for stealth mode.

[@LukeOConnorable]

The Gundam Hammer shows up in 08th MS Team as well, which is why I consider it canon 😂

[@slothcakes]

omg i forgot bout that one very short scene of a gm ground type just holding one for no reason lol, bandai loves sneaking random things in the background for no reason

[@Lavendeer201]

Gogg was always cool to me. Super unique and strange design and that's why I love it!

[@cpt.s.seiden]

Gogg is God. According to a friend of mine.

[@slothcakes]

Your friend is correct

[@acguy907]

@@slothcakes he shall guide us

[@zcubed8228]

You got a great friend

[@loquendo918]

The egg of doom

[@acguy907]

I always call gogg egg boy it really funny

[@flatheadgg2443]

The thunderbolt gogg to me looks more like something the titans would use since it's a lot more angular. Would you also consider doing an episode on the zaku marine type? It seems rather interesting.

[@slothcakes]

ive looked at it and his variants, being the first AM he has to be covered eventually I just dont have any order on which i cover and just pick out the blue

[@AzraelThanatos]

I think the Thunderbolt gogg is one that they adjusted for surface combat, in a deploy underwater and then fight on the surface there while the original is intended to, largely, fight in the water but it's armor and bulk meant that it could face off with the RX-78-2 just by the sheer armor designed for dealing with deeper depths. It's basically a weaponized deep sea diving suit turned into a mobile suit.

[@DarkAlex1978]

Who said that the Gundam Hammer is not canon? XD About the Gogg, I love the machine: it's like a massive ogre with brutal claws XD I'd add another downside about having all the weapons inside the abdoment, expecially the torpedo launchers or more precisely, the ammo. Maybe is unlikely given the Gogg's thick armor, but one streak of ill luck and boom: the Gogg will be blowed in half by its own ammo reserve. On the multi-segmented arm, as design is also more suited for slashing movements using claws. To be honest the Thunderbolt version does not makes very sense: it's a bit pointless to have heat based claws in a vehicle meant to operate on/underwater. The very enviroment will nerf your weapon damage capability. It's like to be armed with an ice sword on a volcanic planet.

[@slothcakes]

heat claws fall under the rule of cool they are not practical but damn there cool plenty of ms have internal ammo its just many MS dont carry a lot of ammo much less than you think so a lucky hit to the ammo can happen but very unlikey also i do like is wavy funny arms gives him more area of range but also looks goofy

[@akaviolaqrif350]

Yea idk if it 80s stuff but amphibious suits back then looks funny some are even cute

[@slothcakes]

am happy they kept that trend through out the franchise

[@ZeonicFenrir]

First of all great video series! Hope you keep them coming! Second, I wanted to point out that the Gogg’s beam weapons aren’t regular mega particle guns, but deflection type mega particle guns. The difference lies in the use of an I-field generator instead of a turret barrel, which also allows to deflect/turn the direction of the beam by 20 degrees or produce a scattering beam. The Zanzibar and the Dom used similar weapons, though in the case of the Dom, its output wasn’t high enough to allow it fire a focused beam, their only scattering as a blinding weapon. The Zanzibar is shown performing a similar feat during Ramba Ral’s retreat after his initial confrontation with Amuro. Though, it’s worth mentioning that in the TV series, a Dom of the Black Tri-Stars did use it as a beam gun. Also, the MS-10 Pezun Dwadge is commonly shown as having this weapon operating in this fashion. All this being long said, most later depictions, specially games, have dumbed down these weapons into regular straight firing beam weapons. MSG Federation VS Zeon (PS2) comes to mind as a game that did show the Gogg using these weapons as scattering beam guns. In the end, it actually made a lot of sense to install these into the Gogg, given that the flaw you mentioned in having to face the enemy directly in order to aim these weapons would be at least slightly mitigated by having the deflection effect provide a wider firing angle. As a side note: the MSM-06 Jurick (MSV-R) actually makes a better case for an improved Gogg design than the Hygogg. In fact, the later was originally going to be a different MS, the MSM-05/B Gock, but apparently they decided to go with the connection to the Gogg to set it as a missing link between the Gogg and the AMX-009 Capule developed by Axis/Neo Zeon.

[@slothcakes]

wow i didn't know that thank you for that explanation that explains the look and why it shoots differently in the show wish we got more info that went more in-depth tec wise since i didnt see anything mentioning this but i will keep a note for future MS that have it. also good to know someone else knows the jurick i love that odd gorilla looking thing with a unholy amount of MPC slapped on to it.

[@DarkAlex1978]

Yeah, he is right. I remember the scattering fire and that it didn't does much damage on the Gundam (which puzzled me), but until now I never thought it was the same kind of weapon installed on the Dom. The later depiction caused a lot of confusion too. I too agree about the Jurick. The Hygogg is a good design, but imho is so much different from the Gogg that is just not believable as its immediate successor.

[@slothcakes]

@@DarkAlex1978 the jurick imo feels like a distant relative to the gogg much more than the hy gogg

[@johannjosephsci]

Thank you for making this video series on the zeon amphibious type ms. I have been looking for the info on these ms and could barely find anything

[@slothcakes]

Thank you they are my favorite type of MS so it was my pleasure

[@711colonel]

Very enjoyable 👍

[@ShortGundamReviews]

im doing a fan-made manga, and im still at the concept art stage, for zeon ms, im starting with the marine ms, i already finnished the acguy and zgok, and planning to do the gogg next, what type of design would you like me to do? since my zgok is a heavy and my acguy is a support, what do you think fits perfect to be next?

[@slothcakes]

you should look at gundam thunderbolts take on the gogg being much thinner and light weight version being much more versatile or try to bridge the gap between the hygogg and gogg aiming for somthing in between

[@malekiththewitchking2799]

I know I'm a couple years late, and someone probably has corrected you already on it, but the Efreet wasn't actually made by Zimmad. It was produced by the Zeon Earth Attack Force.

[@goldkip]

awesome

[@duckymoney9529]

Sheeeeeesh

[@treebuff2275]

I misheard you and thought that you said "a penis" at 14:37 and got super confused for a minute, lol.

[@cheebc9981]

does anyone know where the cockpit is? I guess its the chest, but I'm not so sure.

[@slothcakes]

for the gogg there right above the MPC on its chest in the middle there is a small sqaure that opens up. Easier to see if you look at the MG