MSM-10 Zock - Amphibious Analysis

[@scorpionvenom27]

The humble Zock, one of the very few mobile suits in the Gundam universe that are impossible to backstab.

[@slothcakes]

The Zock, Azock and Reborns can't trust anyone so they watch there own back

[@IronWarhorsesFun]

its an Amphibious Kshatriya lol.

[@ZockEnjoyer]

As a Zock i can confirm my biology is correct

[@LinusStrawn-ju4lo]

So you enjoy yourself?

[@sonwig5186]

I love the Zock.

[@ВасилийМорозов-л7х]

The Thunderbolt Zock is an awesome machine. Transport Mobile Armours are rare.

[@strcmdrbookwyrm]

The Zock reminds me of the Awesome from battletech. Both are slow and awkward to position, but once they are in position the level of fire support they can provide is, well, awesome. Sadly the Awesome doesn't have all the cool bells and whistles as the Zock, but that's alright. Also, while I watched this with little to no Gundam knowledge, I guessed that the Thunderbolt Zock was going to be a Mobile Suit Carrier.

[@agatamackiewicz6913]

i dont really talk to zock much but from what I've seen he's a good person (im the acguy person from before but i've been locked out of my main account)

[@slothcakes]

I noticed from the icon and was thinking what are the odds of someone having the same pic talking bout the same thing, got to see you like him

[@nightwolfnordberg9476]

Have you been transportet in one?

[@PagemanX]

In Orgins manga they expand a bit on the Zock, Char end up piloting one against the White Base in Belfast and they explain the Zocks were made to be used as blockade against the Federation sea routes, literally sea turrets that could fight a naval group alone. Of course Zeon underestimated the size of Earth oceans and they ended up only making 3 units in the end.

[@animeemail8902]

I just finished reading Gundam the Origin and I don’t remember Char piloting the Zock in the Origins manga. There was a Zock that was a part of the Belfast attack but it was piloted by some other guy.

[@leoornstein3963]

Lmao the Zock went through a whole Digimon evolution from the original, to RTG, to Thunderbolt.

[@CaptainMarko379]

I love seeing unique mobile suits like the guntank and the zock. Always interesting!

[@secondbeamship]

The Zock looks like those “generic robot” toys and love him for that.

[@zorain2354]

I really enjoyed this amphibious analysis. I'm not a gundam fan but I love amphibious and weird looking mobie suit. Good work, keep going I'll support you!

[@slothcakes]

thank you, glad you enjoyed it

[@nicholashoskins8266]

Okay, i never saw the Thunderbolt version of the zock before, and it looks rather impressive, to say the least. Im half suprised they didn't put some version of the hygogg's shoulders and arms on it to mount several of those rockets from it all around its body. This would be to allow it to carpet bomb its targets to provide a beachhead for its troops. Then again, if it had several of those on it and they all went off, that thing would go so fast that im pretty sure something would break, so maybe lets not do that. Kinda sad there isn't a launching mechanism for the carriers, to be honest. Imagine it just popping up, spinning around to just distract everyone as it sends its troops across defense lines. Then, it starts providing 360 degrees of covering fire.

[@DanDaFreakinMan]

Thank you! No one ever talk about this thing, which is unfortunate

[@ShishouDzukiZaManako]

18:18 the perspective on that picture is all sorts of wonky.

[@Digitally-insane]

Gm pilot: I’ll flank this goofy ahh ms from behind, wait why is he backing up? Zock: by the power vested in my 4 MPC. I sentence you to nonexistence

[@joaogomes9405]

Minovsky particles actually are adversely affected by water in the UC timeline. While fighting the mad angler squad in Belfast, it's mentioned several times that the gundam's beam weaponry is only about 50% as effective as usual while underwater. This is also consistent with the amphibious MS designs, as they all have non-beam sub weaponry whose main purpose is fighting underwater. In the zock's case, the phonon maser, and in the others' case, several types of torpedo, rocket and missile launchers, as well as the iron nails. The zee Zulu even goes through great lengths to keep its beam machinegun from being exposed to water by using the watertight backpack.

[@Eyeofnelms]

I rly loved the Journey to Jaburo design, and it kinda bugs me that this design was never seen beyond that. Unless you count the thunderbolt version.

[@slothcakes]

the TB design looks similar just MUCH bigger and can carry MS, its so odd how they made this design than never reused it again. In some cases I like it more than the OG zock

[@bagea]

i love these amphibious analysis episodes!

[@slothcakes]

glad your enjoying them!

[@casbalt7763]

Notable about the zock in jtj is that it is the final story mode boss as well

[@slothcakes]

Too bad this design never left j2j it a nice redesign

[@revanshan3308]

Masers remind me of X-COM Terror of the Deep cannons, and the Zgock reminds me of the Urbanmech of Battletech as it too is a mobile gun turret

[@WolfeSaber]

For me, this Mobile Suit feels like it would fight better in space than the others, even the Gundam. Like, I can see this model the best one if say the Expanse had its own Mobile Suits.

[@ThePapino134]

i think the zock reversable design was made cause its so big. doing a 180 would be too slow so just flip the arms and the eye and you are facing that sneaky enemy

[@slothcakes]

agreed, on paper it sounds nice but now u need double the weapons. a odd dude as a whole still love him tho

[@ZeonicFenrir]

Just wanted to point out that perhaps the 2 mysterious guns on top of the Gogg's head are also phonon masers. From my understanding, although mega particle guns can work underwater, they re less effective, which still makes a phonon maser an attractive weapon (perhaps range underwater is the key factor here?), even if an amphibious MS will only/mainly use it while cruising underwater. Also wanted throw in a curious detail: in Federation Vs Zeon, when deploying at Jaburo with a Zeon MS, a cutscene showing the MS you chose dropping from the front section of a Gaw, however, if you chose to deploy with a Zock, this cutscene is replaced by a unique one showing the Zock swimming. The game, made by Capcom by the way, was actually quite accurate in many aspects, and I believe this was meant to indicate that a Zock couldn't fit through a Gaw's front hangar door, though apparently it do can fit in a Fat Uncle as shown in the original TV series. And before I forget, you can actually briefly see a Gogg in 08th MS team, during Zeon's retreat from Odessa, in episode 7 if I'm not mistaken. You can also catch a glimpse of a Jukon and Mad Angler, and it also proves that a Gaw's rear hang is also usable to store MS, as we see the crippled Acguy boarding it that way.

[@slothcakes]

ive read that MSM like the gogg have smaller weapons ether be vulcans or weak beam weapons that are used to take out smaller things like mines, torpedos sorta like the freezy yard and am pretty sure thats whats ontop of the goggs head. I still find it out that the zock was the only things to have a photon maser idk if they just forgot or other MS have it but they just call it beam weapons its a odd case. also i need to focus on the background for some uc because they but the most random of shit. i remember someone said that in 08th there is a random GM holding a gundam hammer for no reason

[@travishardinger7018]

I played J to J back in the day, first game I got for the PS2 and I remember the Zock opening the beak and firing a MPC like the Bigro?

[@gundam5281]

I'm pretty sure the Zock's iron nail was made exclusivly to bash through the fortifications of Jaburo.

[@TokyoFilthy]

this is my kinda video, i love the amphibious suits in gundam, so wacky but loveable

[@ShortGundamReviews]

do you consider the zgok, acguy, gogg, and zock to be the 4 main marine ms?

[@slothcakes]

id say so. those 4 appeared in the og anime and most recognizable. Acguy and Zgok much more making more appearances in other things than any other marine ms

[@flameshot4798]

It looks like a cactus

[@sebastianthomsen2225]

🌵

[@austinreed7343]

It could be awesome if we got a radially symmetrical Mobile Suit.

[@ВасилийМорозов-л7х]

There is a Rafflesia, but it's an MA.

[@appletherapy]

I see you don't have Tominos mindset. How tragic

[@DealsFS]

I think the reason why they bothered with naming the Seed weapons as Photon masers is just because that show feels the need to give every single weapon a super long and fake technical sounding name. Like you can't just have vulcan guns in Seed, they need to be something like "Igelstellung 75mm Automatic Multi-barrel CIWS".

[@appletherapy]

Them water mobile suits almost killed Gundam and. Jaburo

[@Elphazo_O-two]

How big is the thunderbolt Zock?

[@slothcakes]

I could not find the number but it can fit TB acguys in its legs which a bit taller than acguys 19.2 meters. Side by side it looks like the zock is maybe 2 and a half acguys in height

[@willimac6421]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/o5LPd3SMpK-lhZI the oct-zock lol

[@Slappy1q7]

I'm not a big fan of the Zock's design, I think it's the legs, he just looks too dumpy

[@slothcakes]

Funny how the legs don't even move due to the hover system, it makes him look top heavy

[@sonwig5186]

Don't mock the Zock