Top 10 Classic Hollywood Characters Who Were the Real Villain of the Story

[@MsMojo]

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[@trinaq]

"She wouldn't have believed me." I'm sure that Dorothy would have, Glinda, but then again, the entire movie would have been over in ten minutes flat.

[@jujubee2141]

It was Glinda’s fault that the Wicked Witch was trying to kill Dorothy. Glinda told Dorothy to “stay tight inside the Ruby slippers” and “I’m afraid you made a very bad enemy of The Wicked Witch of the West”. Dorothy didn’t do that. Glinda did but you’re right; the movie would’ve ended right there. Even when I was a kid, I thought Glinda was the bad one.

[@Peh-heeeeeggy-Hill]

There’s a MAD TV skit that covers this lol

[@tessat338]

The problem with Glinda in the movie is that the movie merged the characters of the two good witches together. The Good Witch of the North came to Munchkin land in the East from her own Purple Quadling Country at the beginning of the story at the request of the Munchkin people after the death of the Wicked Witch of the East. She'd been helping them the best that she could in their resistance against the Wicked Witch of the East. In the end of the book, Dorothy and friends have to journey far South from the Emerald City after the departure of the Wizard in his balloon, to Gilikin Country to seek the advice of Glinda, the Good, the greatest and most powerful witch in Oz. She doesn't intervene until Dorothy and her friends come directly to her to ask for help in person. It keeps the story in the novel going, but it drags out the resolution of the movie which wants to be wrapped up neatly in one act. The Good Witch of the North wasn't clear on the nature of the powers of the Silver Shoes but thought that those powers were safer with Dorothy rather than with the Wicked Witch of the West. When asked, Glinda the Good could consult her Magic Book and read all about them and their powers. The Wizard was doing his best to present a counterfeit version of Glinda's actual powers. The movie producers could have just had Billie Burke play both parts, wearing purple in the beginning and pink at the end. It's kind of implied that Margaret Hamilton plays both the Wicked Witch of the East and the Wicked Witch of the West. When we see Miss Gulch on her bicycle turn into a witch flying on a broomstick, she is supposed to be the Wicked Witch of the East who also gets caught up in the tornado along with Dorothy's house, which comes down on top of her and her ruby slippers.

[@tammywebb1289]

Yeah, but get this: If Glinda had told her about the ruby slippers right after Dorothy got them, then Dorothy never would've helped the Scarecrow, Tin Man, and Cowardly Lion. And, the Wicked Witch Of The West would still be alive

[@J.P.Robles]

That means that the whole movie was for nothing Whenever you’re writing a story you don’t ever want to do this The audience hates nothing more than being told that the story didn’t need to take place because it could have just as easily have ended earlier It doesn’t help that the scarecrow, the lion, and the scarecrow don’t need to be granted things by the wizard because they had all of what they wanted It is a nice way to end things but if you think about it it comes off as lazy writing

[@waheedabdullah6371]

I won't say he was lying,, Grandpa Joe getting his energy back is like me when I hear my school is canceled on a snow day

[@TamESQ]

😂

[@gracehowell.]

After staying in bed all that time, his muscles should be atrophied and pretty much useless. But then we don't see whether they all go to the bathroom during the day, or if they use something in the bed. He may not be literal when saying he hasn't left the bed in years.

[@Indie973]

@@gracehowell.without a cane at least but I doubt he meant any harm

[@GayleColson]

I still think it was the magic of the Golden Ticket that renewed Grandpa Joe. Give him a break, already!

[@TamESQ]

@@GayleColson Nah.. he was lazy as hell. 😂

[@VJAllison1974]

The first time I saw "Gone with the Wind", I wondered why everyone considered Scarlett O'Hara as a wonderful heroine. I thought she was a spoiled, selfish brat from the get go... And it's nice to see someone agreed with me. I love Vivian Leigh's acting, she was extremely talented, and she played the part of the brat to perfection.

[@theman4884]

I don't understand why "modern sensibilities" consider the "I don't know nothing 'bout birth no babies" character to be racist. That is one of the best parts of the movie and the most realistic.

[@angelicasmodel]

​@@theman4884she's a caricature of a supposedly simple minded slave. A more nuanced view of Prissy could show that she's being sarcastic or resentful towards the slavers, and that she was trolling Scarlett and Melanie because of this. I believe there's historical evidence that shows some slaves did this from time to time. But the book and movie just show her as an idiot.

[@inkheart151]

That’s what I thought. My grandmother loved her! I don’t get it! I hated her!

[@theman4884]

@@angelicasmodel She wasn't an idiot; she was a survivor. She said what she needed to in order to get by and it worked. She was obviously uneducated but was quick witted.

[@SpookMrsSpooky]

I could never stand Scarlett O'Hara, I'm with you. I'm not sure I agree with the video about Rhett Butler though. He started out as a scoundrel, but he grew as a character and as a man, especially when their daughter was born. I love the book and I love the movie, which is weird when I hate the main character.

[@jessyleppert2]

Uncle Frank from Home Alone should've been on this list, as well as Peter McCallister.

[@alexkobs9313]

Why Peter?

[@jessyleppert2]

@@alexkobs9313 remember he asked Harry disguised as a cop if he was under arrest?

[@alexkobs9313]

@@jessyleppert2 Yes.

[@joelpietsch4998]

Home Alone is a modern movie not a classic one.

[@majorfanboy2005]

​@@joelpietsch4998Modern? The movie came out 34 years ago. It's basically a classic movie at this point.

[@trinaq]

I always thought that Guy was a huge creep. He repeatedly acts dismissively towards Rosemary, including stating that her new haircut is horrible, and the worst choice she's ever made, and if that wasn't bad enough, allows the devil to sexually assault his wife, and sire his spawn, all for an acting role.

[@gracehowell.]

There's no universe in which he could be considered a hero. I'm surprised he's on this list.

[@bigjalapeno7061]

Yea...

[@Firepuma27]

Wonder if the devil used his body as a vessel as part of the deal to sire said child, leaving him a broken man and he takes that anger out on Rosemary while lying to cover up what actually happened

[@scribe56]

It's funny but I never could warm up to the actor who played that part after I saw the movie. He was really good at it and he was a really fine actor but I just hated him. That's what happens When Play apart really well. I don't think I hated the wicked witch as much as I hated him.

[@destinynanaakrong8584]

Yeah.... He's not just a creep. He's extremely demented and more evil than all the other neighbours. It wouldn't have been a surprise if turned out he was a demon himself It's true what they say.... "Your true enemy is always the one closest to you."

[@desireepetitdemurat8660]

Not long ago I watched Gigi, I was horrified by Gaston, the movie is anything but romantic, the man and her family are basically grooming the girl while they joyfully sing, at the end I was like, what did I just watch??

[@abigailalexis735]

grandpa joe's a villain for making Charlie's mother do all the housework and sing the most skippable song of the movie

[@viviennemorgan7217]

yep

[@jenniferreed9105]

Cheer up Charlie.

[@mrs.rucker2448]

My kids sing that song to torture each other. Even now, when they are all in their 20s😂

[@mellttabor2134]

I’m glad after YEARS of me hating grandpa Joe I find many others saw how lazy this guy was and how he tried to get Charlie to act badly. It’s only when Charlie decides to do the right thing does he win the factory!

[@fredman1085]

Bond. Again, while he was extreme in his attitudes, they weren’t that far out of the norm for the 40-60s. Also, if you don’t think he was pissed at that woman’s death by gold paint, you’re not really paying attention to Sean’s acting.

[@theman4884]

How many times has Bond saved the world? He is a hero.

[@bravehome4276]

Remember that MI6 (in the movies, not IRL) seeks agents who have no qualms killing whomever their government designates. That agent wouldn't be very likely to have a kind, considerate, compassionate and understanding nature....

[@mehmeh5517]

I’m surprised that Jenny from Forrest Gump didn’t make it on the list

[@raquel_becks]

Dirty Harry's supposed to be a dirty cop though. Sure, he works outside the law, he's a less than admirable character. But the Scorpio killer is FAR worse.

[@kevinkunkel9444]

Glinda put Dorothy in trouble by putting the slippers on her feet to begin with. If she didn't want the witch to get the slippers, why not put them on her own feet?

[@bja808]

Maybe she wasnt powerful enough to wear them. Remember the Wicked Witch (or Elphaba) was the most powerful magic being of Oz who created those slippers. She was the “only one” who knows how to use them and Glinda knows that.

[@kevinkunkel9444]

@bja808 Clearly, she was lying. The Wicked Witch of the West wasn't the only one who knew how to use them. Glinda is the one who told Dorothy how to use them when she finally decided to do it.

[@viviennemorgan7217]

@@bja808 she probably made those for her sister before she died by dorothy's house elphaba is mad about that and trying to take the shoes off her feet.

[@kristashafer93098]

Glinda couldn’t have put them on her own feet as they would have clashed horribly! That deep dark red with all that pink? It would have looked terrible!

[@michelepaccione8806]

Dorothy feels ignored and unappreciated by everyone around her and victimized by Miss Gulch, so when knocked unconscious she dreams she’s a hero and everyone loves and appreciates her. Just my theory, but I think Glinda represents her memories of her missing mother, who loves Dorothy but isn’t really there. She returns in the end to help Dorothy go back to her aunt and uncle, who love her but may not always show it.

[@katclark3857]

Victor Frankenstein is complete knob. People make a fuss that Frankenstein isn’t the monster, except he is. He’s utterly selfish, self absorbed, vain, arrogant, etc. he was so obsessed with proving he could reanimate something previously dead that he didn’t think about the consequences. When he finally managed it he abandoned his creation and left it to fend for itself.

[@theman4884]

How about Maria from The Sound of Music? Those kids were perfectly well behaved then Maria comes and ruins them.

[@Klaital1]

That's kind of the whole point of that movie, that Dr. Frankenstein is the true monster, not the golem he creates.

[@jessyleppert2]

I actually met Peter Ostrum who played Charlie in Willy Wonka and he told me that he liked working with Jack Albertson more than Gene Wilder.

[@andreasmeelie1889]

Did he like Gene Wilder?

[@Sparky0627]

Well, Gene did say he surprise Peter at the end, so I can see him liking Jack beeter.

[@blackamerican40]

​@@Sparky0627Beeter?

[@pamelamays4186]

If Grandpa Joe can get up and dance, he can get up and go get a job.

[@jessyleppert2]

@@Sparky0627 you mean Better

[@DBat-sp1tp]

I always thought that Professor Dumbledore was evil or at least not the kind old wizard that he was portrayed to be.

[@kamsismith]

Just 9 days before Wicked comes out, Glinda is on the thumbnail.

[@trinaq]

Yep, talk about a timely reference. Are you planning to see the movie in the cinema?

[@kamsismith]

I'm waiting until it’s available on streaming. U?

[@trinaq]

@kamsismith Ditto, it's been so long since I last watched a film in a theatre. Streaming is mainly how I watch things now.

[@kamsismith]

Me too. The last time I went to the theater was to see the Bob Marley movie with my mom, siblings, and uncle. It’s only going to be a matter of time before theaters die out and streaming takes over. Side note, they should release the live recording of the Wicked musical on Disney Plus a day before the movie version comes out similar to how they did Hamilton.

[@AlbertTorcaso]

​@trinaq if there is a drive-in near you, you should go see a movie there, drive-ins are great. Snacks are also less expensive in most cases

[@fireflyparker7543]

Speaking of the wizard, he is the REAL villain of the movie. He told the four to go away, he made Dorothy cry, he scared them, he made the lion faint, he also made him run away, he sent them to the Wicked Witch’s castle, he told them to go away and come back tomorrow, and he left without Dorothy!

[@blackamerican40]

It was all a dream. 😅😊

[@markervin2147]

The "wizard" was a stooge for Glenda. She sent Dorothy to him knowing, first, how to use the slippers to get home, and second, that the so-called wizard was a fake. If you ask me, Glenda told the wizard to send Dorothy and her crew to get the wicked witch's broomstick knowing she'd part with it over her dead body. And that, my friends, made it a contract hit!

[@suebursztynski2530]

I’ve read the book. He didn’t mean to leave without Dorothy, she jumped out to get Toto and the wind blew the balloon away.

[@bravehome4276]

@@suebursztynski2530 Er, same thing happened in the movie....

[@suebursztynski2530]

@ been a while since I have seen the movie.

[@theboundingman1598]

You should make an animated version of this list. There are so many. Dracula from hotel Transylvania, joy from inside out, woody from the first toy story, Merida from brave, asha from wish, Marty from Madagascar, Rocky from chicken run, metro man from megamind, and so on

[@catwhispurrer137]

Don't forget Peter Pan; he would chase away or even kill lost boys when they got older. It was Hook who would make them into pirates after he saved them from Peter's wrath.

[@englishatheart]

So basically any flawed character who makes mistakes is a villain in your eyes. Good to know.

[@theboundingman1598]

@englishatheart not exactly. Most of these cases are just so well written they are their own worst enemy

[@SeasideDetective2]

No, Mr. Potato Head was the secondary villain of that movie. He was hypocritical enough to condemn Woody after he practically DARED him to kill Buzz.

[@Father_of_Death]

No wonder Dorothy tried to strangle Glinda in that MADtv sketch. 😂😂😂😂

[@gingaddict]

Definitely agree with Max from sunset boulevard. you're led to think Norma is living a lie but so is Max, constantly lusting after her despite her breaking it off with him years ago. He basically kept adding fuel to the fire and never got punished for it.

[@AngelVoice23]

WHERE are Cathy and Heathcliff from Wuthering Heights?? They are equally terrible people and even worse in the book!

[@janeenharrison1953]

Yasss! I was sooo confused watching that movie, thinking this isn't very romantic they are both nutsos!

[@blackamerican40]

Glenda used a teenage girl to kill off two of her enemies; one by horrific dumb luck and the other who foolishly kept something in her castle she knew would kill her. Glenda now rules the land with two murders out of the way and a pair of stolen shoes. 😮😢

[@jaceram8726]

I always considered Santa in Roudolph, the red nosed raindeer, to be one of the ultimate villains.

[@viviennemorgan7217]

why?

[@marilynsobel7414]

@@viviennemorgan7217 I assume because he was so down on Rudolph for being different until his red nose was helpful and then suddenly he decided Rudolph was okay. Santa could have shamed the other reindeer for teasing Rudolph but he didn't.

[@viviennemorgan7217]

@@marilynsobel7414 he wasn't here for half of the movie except to see rudolph all grown up and used him to lead the team, it should be his parents who should have told the other reindeer to not make fun or bully him.

[@marilynsobel7414]

@@viviennemorgan7217 It is rather amusing to be discussing this so seriously. However, I would argue that Santa had the most moral authority and therefore our expectations for him are higher than for the others. It is true that none of the adults acted admirably.

[@viviennemorgan7217]

@@marilynsobel7414 well santa shouldn't be busy writing the naughty and nice list and he should have hosted the reindeer games instead of one of his old reindeer.

[@kimarmstrong2010]

Absolutely nothing wrong with Dirty Harry as long as you aren't a criminal

[@marilynsobel7414]

If a criminal is someone who breaks the law, then Dirty Harry is a criminal. It is against the law to torture people. And violating people's constitutional rights is definitely wrong.

[@williamgroves6988]

Or one of his partners.

[@marilynsobel7414]

Maybe that is true in a movie but not in real life. For example, the police broke all kinds of rules when they decided the teenagers they arrested for rape (Central Park Five) were guilty. They did not allow them to have a lawyer present or call their parents and they treated them extremely harshly until they gave false confessions. Of course with those confessions (which the teenagers said were coerced) they were found guilty. Eventually DNA evidence proved they were innocent. In the meantime, the lives of five innocent children were ruined. Cheering people on who break the rules that are meant to safeguard our rights is never a good idea. And Dirty Harry only goes after a certain kind of criminal -- usually a person of color and definitely not someone in the corporate world. Dirty Harry would never go after Jeffrey Epstein.

[@marymitchell8625]

Rhett is Scatlett's codependent spouse. When he leaves, he's breaking the cycle. Scarlett is dangerously delusional about whatever she fixates on (Ashley Wilkes, Tara, etc). Alcohol and the Southern belle attitude is her fuel. Rhett is almost honorable (he's the only character who comes the closest to acknowledging the fatal politics of Ashley and Kennedy and etc) until he enters her orbit, and he becones nearly as monstrous. He has to leave because there's really nothing to hold him since their child is dead. Their toxic marriage actually does its part to kill their child.

[@leesashriber5097]

Excellent topic and in-depth coverage of these classics. The term classic doesn't have to have a timestamp. Much appreciated my friend. 😊

[@ThomasEhrlich-fc8nj]

What about the Mayor and the rest of the town council from Jaws and Jaws 2? In a previous watchmojo list, they argued that the shark only did what it did out of instinct (which is technically true, although real sharks don't attack humans as often as they do in the movies). Whereas the mayor and his equally greedy and criminally negligent cronies are all too willing to lie to themselves and others about the blatant danger and death of the first victim. And if that weren't bad enough, in the sequel, they fire Brody from being police chief because he was mistaken about spotting the new shark and firmly asserted how he could tell what a shark looked like due to his past experience (in both movies, he was established to be a good cop and family man who lived for that job, and never once caused even minor harm to a human being).

[@scottmcgreal7779]

In Rosemary's Baby, I thought it was suppsoed to be obvious that the husband is one of the villains, as the story does not attempt to conceal his role in Rosemary's rape and impregnation; she even spits in his face at the end. He is hardly portayed as some sort of good person.

[@ztmusic2789]

#10: Grandpa Joe (Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory) #9: Benjamin Braddock (The Graduate) #8: James Bond (Goldfinger) #7: Max von Mayerling (Sunset Boulevard) #6: Mildred Pierce (Mildred Pierce) #5: Blanche Hudson (What Ever Happened to Baby Jane?) #4: Glinda the “Good” Witch (The Wizard of Oz) #3: Guy Woohouse (Rosemary’s Baby) #2: “Dirty” Harry Callahan (Dirty Harry) #1: Scarlett O’Hara & Rhett Butler (Gone With the Wind)

[@MichaelTaylor-qp2xf]

I don't know if it falls under the same moniker of "classic" as the movies on this list, but Ariel is the source of all her own problems in the Little Mermaid. She's a petulant, reckless teenager with a crush who doesn't listen to her father and chooses to go to Ursula in order to get what she wants, despite any consequences. Then, she gets it and moves on despite leaving behind the family and friends she's had her whole life. I'm glad Disney didn't make a spinoff about Flounder's depression spiral or Sebastian getting fired and becoming homeless after Ariel ran off with Eric.

[@americanpopprincess8]

Thank you. Even as a little girl with all the mania is surrounding TLM, I thought Ariel was a brat. She reminded me of older, mean girls. Belle and Jasmine were my ride or dies

[@justindenney-hall5875]

Guy from is "Rosemary's baby" is blatantly one of the villains, so he shouldn't be on this list, and you say he was the real threat? The real threat in the movie was the devil himself guy and the other cult members were in the grand scheme just pawns.

[@TheeKookyWildflower]

However, he did turn her over for his success. Without him doing so, they may not have been successful.

[@nicoleraco636]

The Great Gatsby. Every single one of those characters we're terrible people. Daisy Buchanan included.

[@trippyboi91]

“It was sort of fun, in a necrophiliac kind of way.” -Guy Woodhouse

[@SeasideDetective2]

For someone who (supposedly) hates women, Bond certainly spends a lot of time around them.

[@carrbender]

No offense, but Guy from Rosemary’s Baby isn’t really a secret undercover villain unlike the others on the list

[@TheeKookyWildflower]

He's pretty obvious from the start.

[@bravehome4276]

I'm puzzled by what standards you hold villains to. First, Mildred Pierce is a villain for not trying to raise a responsible daughter. Then Glinda is a villain for trying to teach Dorothy that she cannot run away from her responsibilities. You gotta make up your mind....

[@wak773]

"willy wonka may be scary, but he's not a monster". there are four children and their parents who would disagree with that statement. also, grandpa joe was like this from the books (except for the fizzy drink episode, which was made for the movie). are we calling this adaptation the villain, or all of his appearances as the villain?

[@dhenderson1810]

The children suffer because of their old selfishness and their parent's enablement of the child's behaviour. They had it coming.

[@DevonRules21]

Norma bates should be on this list look what she did to norman her was evil but also broken from the abuse of many kinds she put him through surprised she didn’t make the list the real villain of psycho was Norma bates in my opinion not norman bates he was a victim even when insane

[@justindenney-hall5875]

@DevonRules21 No, she shouldn't for the same reason "Guy" shouldn't have been, because they are both intentionally bad characters, and the subject of this list is characters that the movie wants us to see as good but technically aren't.

[@vincentsaia6545]

The second Dirty Harry movie did attempt to show that he at least had a moral line that he wouldn't cross through his opposition to the Death Squad motorcycle cops.

[@fyregirl7770]

I remember being STUNNED when I realized it was Max Von Mayerling who was "madame's" "fans". Great pick.

[@rainbowtoyfunrandomess1982]

I get that some Hollywood Characters have questionable actions like with Grandpa Joe and of course Willy Wonka, but Glinda the Good Witch?! It's like Joy from Inside Out all over again, these two are both kind and sweet characters, but have some questionable actions. I still love Glinda and Joy though.

[@Rose-xy5pe]

Honestly I think Glinda should get a pass because OZ is all in Dorothy’s dream. Nothing Glinda does makes sense because she’s a product of Dorothy’s mind. And while I do agree with most of what you said about Scarlet and Rhett, I must disagree with you calling them racist. Because ironically, both characters treat the African American characters better than they treat anybody else in the movie and in the book.

[@marianparoo1544]

It isn’t a dream in the book

[@Rose-xy5pe]

@ Well I wasn’t talking about the book.

[@zanethind]

Actually Willy Wonka is definitely a villain. He hates kids and tortures them for his fun through his psychological manipulation. Even Gene Wilder said that he played the character as a trickster and liar and told the director he wanted to be that type of Wonka else he wouldn't do the movie. It's safe to say he got his wish

[@mellttabor2134]

I don’t agree. Willy was a genius who loved making candy but ppl would steal his recipes til he closed the factory to ppl. People are flawed and they raise brats. He did a contest, took the winners into his factory ( children and their parents/guardian) , HE OUTLINED THE RULES, after every single child broke the rules ( drinks from chocolate river, goes after the geese, chews the dinner gum, etc) he actually tries to help them undo some harm and hopes they become better ppl. He tested ALL the winners and they ALL failed until Charlie stopped listening to grandpa Joe and proved “ Charlie knew what doing the right thing was”. Then you see how WILLY became the man he actually was- a candy maker who just wanted his factory in the hands of another good candy maker!!

[@janeenharrison1953]

😂

[@zanethind]

@mellttabor2134 that's actually a fair assessment as well

[@paulvoorhies8821]

I think it’s pretty obvious that Guy in Ro’s Baby is a villain.

[@michaelmonthey5974]

I love Dirty Harry. I can’t believe MsMojo put him on the list and worse put him closer to the top.

[@marilynsobel7414]

I think the reasons she gave are excellent. The reason people love guys like Dirty Harry is because they never go after the powerful, only the powerless. And so they feel Dirty Harry will never go after people like themselves.

[@michaelmonthey5974]

@ That’s ridiculous. Harry goes after criminals, not because they’re poor or anything but because they commit crimes and cause chaos. Buy powerful, do you mean the mayor and such. He can’t go after them because they are his superiors.

[@michaelmonthey5974]

@@marilynsobel7414 That’s ridiculous. Harry goes after criminals, not because they’re poor or anything but because they commit crimes and cause chaos. Buy powerful, do you mean the mayor and such? He can’t go after them because they are his superiors.

[@michaelmonthey5974]

@@marilynsobel7414 That’s ridiculous! He goes after people not because they’re poor or anything, but because they’re committing crimes and causing chaos.

[@marilynsobel7414]

@@michaelmonthey5974 But the rich and powerful commit crimes too. When do you ever see these rogue cops go after them? When do they make movies where cops are ignoring the rights of wealthy people and going after whomever they please? For example, people think nothing of a cop shooting at a shoplifter, even if they only take something that is worth a few bucks. But wage theft is a big problem -- according to a recent report in California, Full Service restaurants stole $2,214,000 by not paying wages it owed. Will they make a movie showing Dirty Harry threatening the owners of Full Service restaurants to get the money? I don't think so. That is what I meant when I said he only goes after the powerless.

[@RomaroBrandon]

If MsMojo does another one of these videos about modern films I recommend they watch DD Conway's Nostalgic Lounge because he's done 5 of them to date about the movie villain vs. the real villain, but I personally think they should include Kevin Copeland from White Chicks.

[@cocoaballoon]

Jud Crandall, from Pet Cemetary. Herbert West, from Reanimator. Ash, from Evil Dead 2.

[@JayHoliday-b9r]

I don't agree with everything, but thank you for nailing Scarlett O hara and Brett, I've hated them since my mother made me watch the dawn thing!!!!

[@PerfectlyImperfect93]

Yeahhhh I always looked at Glinda sus 👀😂

[@viviennemorgan7217]

you should do top ten most movie spoiled brats next.

[@viviennemorgan7217]

please do it.

[@violetbeauregarde4ever]

Number one is obviously going to be Veruca Salt from Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory

[@jobrakai9395]

3:47 Why so many men love James Bond, especially Connery’s Bond.

[@dhenderson1810]

I have never actually seen one James Bond film.

[@jobrakai9395]

@@dhenderson1810 start with the Connery movies. They’re the best

[@dhenderson1810]

@@jobrakai9395 If I did it, I would watch them in chronological order.

[@cocoaballoon]

Glinda put Dorothy's life in danger, by putting the rupee red slippers on her feet.

[@robertbrescia3196]

I looked at it that way for years until I realized that Glinda gave Dorothy the slippers to protect her from the wicked witch, who was already mad at her for killing her sister.

[@marissamay8527]

Are we not gonna mention that Scarlett and Rhett owns a slave? What's more evil than that?!

[@DBat-sp1tp]

Judging the past by today’s standards and not even realizing or acknowledging that human trafficking aka slavery is happening in your own country through the southern border 🤦🏽‍♀️. It’s easy to act virtuous today not even taking into account that if you were alive back then how you would have behaved.

[@marilynsobel7414]

@@DBat-sp1tp That is not true. I mean, why do you think we had a Civil War? The southern states were the only ones that wanted to hold onto slavery. Northerners had opposed slavery for years and many helped with the Underground Railroad. Union soldiers fought to defeat slavery. I guess you need to study history. As for sex trafficking, no one is suggesting it is a good thing and it is illegal. Sadly it happens in many places. I just read a story about a girl in West Virginia who was trafficked by her own mother (to a policeman). That woman (and the police officer) went to jail. So these things are not comparable at all.

[@throughthelookingglass5973]

@@DBat-sp1tp Not to mention that back then, slavery of any background was a method to get poor people to work and make a living. Some of the so-called "slavery" was a mutual contract between the slaves and the master so that each would benefit from one another. The busy master would have his home and family taken care of while he was away, and in turn, the slaves were provided shelter and food as payment. I'm not saying that serving someone against their will isn't evil, it is. But many slaveries of the past resemble the modern-day workforce, the only difference is we're paid with money and permitted to make a personal home rather than living with our employer. Also back then, not everyone mistreated their servants.

[@ashleyglisson4046]

Grow up

[@marilynsobel7414]

@@throughthelookingglass5973 That is not true! You may be thinking of indentured servants, who did have a contract with employers. You have obviously never heard of the Middle Passage, where thousands of people who were taken from their homes in Africa to be enslaved died or endured horrific conditions. Then there are the whippings, the chains, the separation of spouses and children once people were enslaved. People who escaped slavery were dragged back to plantations (no doubt to complete their so-called "contract"). If slavery wasn't real but just a contract why did Lincoln promulgate the Emancipation Proclamation? And isn't it weird that after the Civil War these "contracts" disappeared? I have no idea where you read this made-up information. There is absolutely no way in which the modern-day workforce resembles slavery. By the way, George Washington took such terrible care of the people he enslaved (dressing them in rags and giving them very little food) that his fellow slave owners criticized him for the way he mistreated them. I really can't believe anyone is passing along this BS. Clearly you are very poorly informed about history.

[@saeszestydemon]

Grandpa Joe jumped tf up so quick for some free shit.. HIS LEGS WORKED THE WHOLE TIME

[@mousemd]

I wonder if that one character inspired the satirical movie diva played by Carol Burnett?

[@lorijacobs7078]

Yes…that was her exact inspiration. My sister’s and my all-time favorite Carol Burnett movie take off. Except for maybe when she spoofed Scarlett O’Hará coming down the stairs in a gown made of curtains with the curtain rod still in it. 😂

[@TheRealTricky]

Grandpa Joe's behavior and the entire plot around Slugworth, is precisely what I never liked about this movie (and I've been told that Dahl himself was also furious about that. Being an author myself, I can relate). That is also why the later version (with Depp as Wonka) came more to my liking, as it's more consistent with the book, and the differences it does have are mostly not too far out of character (which Joe really was in the first movie). The dentist thing in the second movie die make me frown, yet Christopher Lee was brilliant (expecting less would be an insult to an actor like him), and the way Charlie solves that matter may not have been in the book, but does match what Charlie in the book would do as well, so all damage was a bit in control. Him dancing like that could be forgiven. When someone who thought he had nothing to live for suddenly sees a twist of events that gives him a new reason to live it's amazing how quickly some physical trouble can disappear as the will to fight it gets back, and that's exactly what happens when Charlie finds the final golden ticket. Never seen any of the other movies listed here (well, a few fragments of a few, but I cannot judge on fragments). Honorable mention (which I didn't see listed) perhaps to Albus Dumbledore from the Harry Potter franchize, although the books demonstrate that one better than the movies, although Snape's remark "You raised him like a pig for slaughter" makes a lot clear. He basically used his astounding manipulation skills in his fight against Voldemort even being willing to sacrifice Harry for the greater good. However, what may speak in his advantage was that he was not afraid to die himself for this course (loads of people who easily sacrifice people for the greater good can really show themselves a coward when they need to sacrifice themselves. At least Dumbledore was not).

[@ThomasEhrlich-fc8nj]

You have a great point. The adaptation with Depp and Highmore is by far more faithful to the source material, even showing how much Wonka cared about the Oompa Loompas' safety and well-being (he not only took them to safety from Loompaland, but promised to give them all the cocoa beans they wanted, which was the food they craved most). Even my late mother liked it better than the one with Gene Wilder.

[@TheRealTricky]

@@ThomasEhrlich-fc8nj Yup, I'd almost forgot about his trip to Loompaland, but the Depp-adaptation did show that where the Wilder-adaptation did not. As well as the story around that prince whose chocolate castle melted, was not covered in the Wilder version but it was in the Depp version, and that one was noted in the book as a mark of Wonka's brilliancy. Now I wasn't very fond of the idea to make Grandmother Georgina showing signs of dementia, as her novel counterpart did not, but I could live with it, as her role was only very minor.

[@Stephen-to7jx]

The mayor in Jaws and Kevin in Home Alone. The mayor should have closed the beaches and Kevin could have called the cops immediately.

[@sailormoonsault]

Grandpa Joe is GOAT villain but somehow also… goals?

[@gwynwellliver4489]

There are 15 original OZ books, the Harry Potter of it's times.

[@vincentsaia6545]

You could also throw in Charles Foster Kane

[@doc_adams8506]

A real undercover villain is Gigi's great-aunt in the musical. She wants to train to join the family business of being a professional courtesan. Wow shouldn't all girls aspire to being a professional whore. Thankfully, Gastone comes to his senses and rejects the legacy that Honore wants to pass on to the next generation.

[@dinomonzon7493]

A misogynist is defined as a woman hater; Ian Fleming describes 007 as a womanizer in the novels and that's reflected in the films. Tilly Masterson's a cold fish in both the film & novel version of Goldfinger anyway.

[@tfe1788]

Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory was released in 1971 and The Graduate was released in 1967... that is not classic Hollywood. Classic Hollywood was between 1927 (when talkies were made with the invention of synchronised sound in Jazz Singer) to 1959 (with the bringing down of the Hay's Code due to films like Some Like it Hot) We then got the New Hollywood era which these films fit in

[@kadesmith3054]

Two superhero movies that I can think of where the hero is the antagonist is Will Smith’s Hancock and Deadpool. In Hancock, the hero throws a transgender child across the street. Deadpool repeatedly mocks and belittles one of teen girls at Professors X University.

[@jedhawkins1769]

Oh come on, Grandpa Joe was just a kooky old man. He can be stubborn and weird at times, but he wasn't a bad person either. Nobody's perfect.

[@lizzaangelis3308]

Clint Eastwood perfected the antihero role. And like most antiheroes Dirty Harry has his own ethical code which can put him at odds with both the good guys and bad guys. For he is neither. He can be seen as good as his code will permit him to do whatever it takes to get bad guys off the street thus making the world a safer place…. But the same code can mean that the methods aren’t justified for the ends that he achieves so I disagree with Dirty Harry inclusion as the character was never intended to be a hero or a good guy

[@chrisalan1133]

Michelle Yeoh as Mameha in Memoirs of a Geisha. She knew everything but still went on with her charade

[@doc_adams8506]

Are you illiterate? Scarlett is the villain. Everything she does is driven by self-interest. She is exactly as Margaret Mitchell wrote her. Rhett is simply a flawed man aware of his many shortcomings trying to make his way in the world only to be constantly kicked in the teeth.

[@TheeKookyWildflower]

@@mellttabor2134 Being a slaveowner makes her a villain from the start. I don't care how she saved her family.

[@zanethind]

I mean James Bond is supposed to be a handsome guy who's a spy and his only life is the mission. So he him being an ass at times is expected. Also it's the 60s the times were different and irl Sean has said that he's been brutal to women

[@fireflyparker7543]

I disagree with #4 completely, and there is nothing anyone can say to change my mind!

[@CarolHardesty]

I definitely agree with #10, #9, and #4. I haven't seen any of the other movies.

[@autumbreeze1129]

The fact I barely recognised half the list 😅

[@sammylane21]

The "Dirt Harry" movies take some weird turns, huh?? One even seems more like a '80's comedy.

[@samuelcollantes1175]

Happy wednesday afternoon, Sophia, take care and God bless you. Greetings from Colombia to you as well.

[@bethweeks5943]

Greetings to you from the USA! ❤🎉❤

[@samuelcollantes1175]

@bethweeks5943 greetings, Beth

[@WilliamLinaresdclxvi]

Harry Callahan IS a hero.

[@Dantheman11281]

I remember watching the Mad TV Sketch where it changes the ending to Wizard of Oz where Dorothy calls out Glinda on her BS and it's hilarious. After realizing she could have gone home at any time, she lashes out at her 3 companions expressing how cautious she felt she had to be around them, save for the tin woodsman. It's a great watch.

[@Svarmani]

Very interesting take on some beloved characters.

[@briannab.1712]

Any character who won't take no for an answer, whether they're male or female, is a villain. Movies should not romanticize characters harassing their crush until they finally relent because that's called stalking. No means no and you can still be friends, but stop trying to pressure them into going out with you! Sometimes they're just not interested in you and no amount of gifts or surprising them at work will change that. Boundaries are not a bad thing!

[@dhenderson1810]

If you never had to convince someone to go out with you, no one would ever get together. Maybe women should not be taught to "play hard to get". Be honest and you either love the guy or you don't. Don't play games. Everyone needs to be completely honest and then there are no excuses for miscommunication. Make your intentions clear.

[@bobbokil3147]

Do you have any idea that there are thousands of couples out there who have had long loving marriages…marriages that would never have happened if not for persistence of the man to win over the woman, and sometimes that opposite was true. Obviously, there is a definite line between courtship and stalking. Nuance is needed in this subject. Unfortunately, woke culture has tried very hard to murder nuance.

[@briannab.1712]

It's ok to be a little persistent, but if someone has made it clear they're not interested, then you should listen to them. Unfortunately, many people, women in particular, like to play hard to get and encourage people to be overly persistent so they'll do it even to someone who is genuinely not into them. I just think too many films glorify it when the character moves into stalker territory and is generally a creep.

[@dhenderson1810]

@briannab.1712 I agree but it is what women seem to be encouraged to do. I think everyone needs to be honest at the start and lay your cards on the table. Best that way. No misunderstandings. I will ask a girl out for a coffee. I ask once, and if she says "No", I move on and it is up to her to make the next move, if there is one. I'm not doing all the chasing.

[@CelebrityMemoryOfficial]

Totally agree

[@vincentsaia6545]

Excellent list. Agree 100% with Benjamin Braddock. Spoiled brat with a brilliant future ahead of him who chooses to become a stalker.

[@dcat78]

I feel so validated. I knew that Glenda was the villain!😂

[@joenesvick7043]

If only bad witches are ugly, then why the heck did Glenda have to ask Dorothy if she was good or bad, just what is she implying lol 🤪 Oh I've heard many bring up Grandpa Joe, but Baby Jay made me laugh the most about it. You can call him Baby Jay, because "your name better not be John!"

[@johnburnside7828]

Love this!

[@cooperbourke7717]

Mayor Larry Vaughn in 'Jaws'?

[@Curtiz2008]

Wizard Of Oz...It's a dream!!!

[@donnagrote4907]

The grandpa Joe one! 🤯

[@garrettholcomb8655]

10. Maybe 9. Never seen it 8. No he's a hero 7. Never seen it 6. Never seen it 5. Never seen it 4. Yes 3. Never seen it 2. Want to see it 1. Never seen it

[@jacobdrolet4262]

Amazing video ms mojo of the real villains of classic Hollywood movies,fantastic job.

[@angelicatays1556]

Guy has always been the evil, vile creature. At least Rosemary had free babysitters for ever

[@Sparky0627]

4 spot on, 1 was a villain, not hidden. But total misses for the rest!

[@mumblingpatchey318]

I have only seen clips of "Gone with the Wind," and if people had told me that Scarlet was the only antagonist, i would have asked about the one guy.

[@birthdaycake4636]

True villain mention this video should've add: Grace Kelly's character in Dial M for Murder was a cheater (her affair with another guy drove the husband into the villain). She's like the wife of Tim Robbins' character from Shawshank Redemption.

[@JasonC1969]

DIRTY Harry is not a villain he's one of the first anti heroes, the guy willing to do whatever it takes to get the bad guys. would you call BATMAN, DEADPOOL, THE PUNISHER, or VENOM villains, so why call DIRTY Harry one?

[@marilynsobel7414]

None of these people are real, remember. But Dirty Harry is more realistic, and therefore more dangerous as a role model than Batman. In movies, villains are usually cartoonish figures that don't resemble real people. The reason people like Dirty Harry is because he goes after the kind of people THEY don't like. And some white men certainly don't care if someone is racist or misogynistic.

[@JasonC1969]

@marilynsobel7414 we are talking about a movie, right?

[@Beth_Alice_Kaplan]

Are you thick? Batman. Doesn’t. Kill. That’s what makes him Batman. Go troll somewhere else.

[@marilynsobel7414]

@@JasonC1969 I believe I made that clear in my first sentence. I also made it clear why Dirty Harry was different.

[@the1magageneral323]

Reaching badly on this especially on the James Bound pick.

[@samanthaleo2590]

As soon as I saw Bond I had the same thoughts. Reaching way too far.

[@the1magageneral323]

@samanthaleo2590 Same thing with the Dirty Harry pick. It was pettiness than any actual evilness. Plus Dirty Harry was right in some ways about lowering the standards for women in the police department.

[@Sparky0627]

About half the list was reaching.

[@doc4062]

For some reason people seem to think James Bond OO7 is a spy, he's not. He's an assassin.

[@kakeyshagarcia3683]

Glinda and the wizard are the villains 1st: Glinda sends Dorothy to the Emerald City to talks to the wizard knowing that her life would be in danger 2nd: The wizard tells Dorothy that if she kills the wicked witch that he would take her home but then backs out of his promise after she does 3rd: Glinda saying that Dorothy wouldn't have believed her about the clicking her heels 3 times to go home is ridiculous. Dorothy literally saw her float inside a giant pink bubble, saw a green witch appear from red smoke, met a talking scarecrow, lion and tinman and Glinda is going to stand there and say that in front of Dorothy's face 4th: Glinda and the wizard used Dorothy to do their dirty work by having Dorothy kills the wicked witch for them

[@JoseChavez-ct1db]

It feels like a lot of these characters fall under 'Lawful Evil'

[@BoxOfficeBabbler]

I don't agree with people making Glinda to be the villain of The Wizard of Oz. I think that when Dorothy landed in Munchkinland, Glinda did not understand the power of the ruby slippers. She said, "Their magic must be powerful or she would not want them so bad."

[@robertbrescia3196]

I think Glinda knew from the get go about the power of the slippers.

[@chelseacanales8763]

Grandpa Joe was a just massive pain in the arse

[@pamelamays4186]

Glinda had Dorothy do her dirty work.

[@sgtmajor5700]

Glenda cleared the board through Dorothy.