These 12 Speedrun World Records were DISQUALIFIED

[@StackOfPancakes2216]

Shizzal: "oh no, my runs were invalid?" "Anyway"

[@kayagorzan]

Indeed.

[@CalcaBrinaa]

That's why i don't respect dream, this is how a speedrunner should act, guy got all of his WR speedruns invalidated, grinded and achieved the same results, dream had a 5th place invalidated and started drama

[@mioszwojtyga5100]

He didnt start drama but defended himself that he wasnt cheating. These are completely different situations, as in the one from the video, the guy wasnt aware of making this mistake and had no intention cheating. In the case of dream he claims he didnt cheat thus wanting to prove himself innocent, he is a very big personality thats why there is a lot of video material coverage on this topic. Anyways as you say, he still continued to play normally and it didnt affect him that much, if you werent cheating, would you just say fine when being accused of it?

[@mioszwojtyga5100]

The guy from the video got his runs disqualified for a good reason unlike dream

[@karotakekashi4520]

@@mioszwojtyga5100 Dream threw various accusations and has blacklisted creators like Karl Jobst for providing evidence about the scandal. It's one thing to defend yourself, but Dream has been a bad sport about the whole situation. Shizzal was invalidated, accepted it, and continued playing. He didn't accuse the moderators of being biased. Ontop of that, Shizzal's runs were DQed on technicality, unlike the very cheaty RNG manipulation from Dream.

[@Msushi]

Just to clarify, if it wasn't clear, this IS NOT A DRAMA VIDEO! This is purely informational! All parties involved (Shizzal and the Portal mod team [Shizzal is also a part of the Portal mod team]) agree that these runs were invalidated. There was no argument, as this situation was not dramatized, it was simply a misunderstanding. And anyone curious about glitches: This is specifically talking about the INBOUNDS speedrun category. This means that ANY glitches are allowed as long as they DO NOT GO OUT OF BOUNDS! There are seperate categories, like out of bounds (any%) where all glitches are allowed, and glitchless, where no glitches are allowed.

[@isabelcoolaf]

the sushi

[@Errafri]

I'm just glad he got his rightfull place back 😁 And it is true, that it was the right thing to do. But that must have suuuucked during a few days for him

[@bryanandhallie]

this should have been clarified in the video

[@bhull242]

It’s kind of amazing that someone could accidentally break the rules and not realize it, but since that’s clearly and objectively what happened, there really is no other choice but to disqualify the runs. Rules are rules for a reason, after all, and that _was_ the whole point of the category. It’d be like submitting a SM64 run in the 16-Star category where you do indeed collect 16 Stars but then do the BLJ to reach DDD and BitFS instead of using MIPS. I’m glad he was able to regain his top spot afterwards, though. He definitely deserves it.

[@colmgarland510]

You need to pin this comment just incase

[@luckyc4t110]

I find it very thematically appropriate that the Portal Gun, a piece of experimental equipment that fucks with the laws of physics, has the capacity to break reality wide open when used by competent players

[@velvetbutterfly]

It only breaks a handful of laws

[@bullcheese2236]

Hell, it can be broken by almost everyone, portal bumping is a great example of this

[@vanDaalstad]

I'd say this is far more interesting than any 'cheater caught' video. less drama, more tech.

[@blindedjourneyman]

Aye

[@thevoidwalkerbr]

Drama is cooler

[@dragonman7806]

Ye

[@xrefed]

@@MostlyLost arent we all meaningless bullshit

[@pacifistminigun3987]

@@MostlyLost agreed.

[@zoki_zoki405]

Who else thought he was gonna talk about 12 different cheaters-

[@Errafri]

And it turns out it was not even a cheater 😅

[@plusonerabbit]

honestly, this was way more interesting, I've seen enough videos about cheaters that got caught

[@goffe2282]

I did, but I found this much more interesting.

[@OleksiyAntonkin]

I thought he will talk about different games

[@margaritaguildpublishing1700]

Slightly click bait

[@Shizzal]

Great video on this rather unique situation Msushi, although I would never doubt a fellow Portal LEGEND.

[@SahekSevenSomeGuy]

like

[@Soulfur]

so true

[@cupofspiders5830]

lol

[@medisal.8984]

): rip shizzal

[@dinnertonightdinner7923]

@Shizzal its the legend

[@wickedfast2166]

Poor guy. Imagine finding a time save only you know. You think you just secured wr forever. But for a split second the camera goes out of bounds.

[@ryanriley3236]

Also it saved less than a tenth of a second, not exactly a "secured wr". Also, the trick wasn't a secret since he streams his runs. He has since gotten within 1 second of his old, invalid, pb

[@firedoctor1]

@@ryanriley3236 speedruns are where single frames saved matter...

[@MatthewTheUntitled]

@@firedoctor1 hard to argue when there is that 1 level in golden eye that had to be basically frame perfect to get 1 second less

[@ryanriley3236]

@@firedoctor1 this is true for some games for sure, but is less important in portal due to the type of game. For example, in the most current wr Shizzal actually doesn't get a trick which saves a whole 7 seconds. Not 0.7, a full 7 second timesave. So the few frames he saves in 05 are not really important over the course of a full run.

[@Elmithian]

@@ryanriley3236 Yeah. Meanwhile in the original Mario game you have to literally be frame perfect for 98% of the run

[@hariman7727]

It's nice to find out about invalid record runs that are an honest mistake instead of outright cheating.

[@escapistlive4079]

0:35 I love the subtle flex.

[@SirPenguinIX]

i know its hilarious

[@FirebunbunYT]

It's so subtle I didn't even realize it till I read your comment.

[@pacifistminigun3987]

@@FirebunbunYT neither did i XD

[@pws3rd170]

@@FirebunbunYT same here. Not a sub just popped up in recommended. Had to check the channel logo to know which of them was the flex 🤣

[@PearoIGuess]

Same thing one on his video about the unluckiest portal speedrun

[@AzoraeSpeedruns]

6:04 CLEARLY my bumbling through 15 was cooler how the hell was that run WR we must have sucked back then

[@leghost2453]

yea

[@princcraft]

Cooler but a little awkward

[@rexyaxy4314]

pog

[@zanly5039]

imo your run was honestly cooler

[@bhull242]

Sometimes a run that feels incompetent to the runner and is objectively worse just _looks_ cooler because of what you see and the number of tricks pulled off in succession.

[@SlykeThePhoxenix]

He's a good man. Took it like a champ and reachieved his record. Props and respect.

[@xeonicSR]

7:54 Hey that's me at 10th place

[@joshuastover]

Indeed it is

[@mrfanpl]

NIce

[@dabs4270]

hi 10th place person!

[@Kapin05]

Cool, I wish you luck with your future runs :D

[@Lucas_15]

I wonder who that guy is in 3rd place, heard he's pretty cool

[@Znernicus]

The chamber 5 example is the perfect reason why I was so iffy about save glitch being used in No OoB category - there is no visual distinction between inbounds and out of bounds, you have to examine the demos very carefully to see where the portals land. Most runners just learn routes without investigating or double checking where edge glitched/save glitched portals are landing

[@LotsOfS]

Hi znern

[@BiiWiXgaming]

Cool :) Fun fact : All my PBs before sub 13:00 was oob in E01, like Shizzal.

[@Msushi]

woah, i didnt know this :o

[@wta1518]

@Richard Hefner Jr I am

[@kleck3846]

Richard Hefner Jr me sad

[@dabs4270]

@Richard Hefner Jr I almost did, but you saved me from doing it lol

[@tahapournosrat3770]

@Richard Hefner Jr yes I'm healthy, thanks for asking

[@-Raylight]

It's like youtube copyright strike, one copyrighted music to strike the entire video. One out of bound glitch to disqualified them all. Respect for that guy though, despites disqualified 12 of his speedruns. He still managed to grab the rank 1 again

[@NotAghostSpeedruns]

When "Save glitch is out of bounds" becomes more than just a meme.

[@cooldudepugs7926]

"How can someone go out of bounds accidentally" basically, source engine pretty dummy

[@tjfjt]

I wondered what happened with shizzal's wr runs, but I figured it was an honest mistake. Glad to hear that he got his inbounds wr back and that the community as a whole learned from this experience

[@scarlettfoster1116]

when you said these 12 I didn't expect them to all be the same dude omg

[@MatthewTheUntitled]

That's a chad move, he did a mistake he didn't mean to do, fixed it, then got even better time as world record. *Nice*

[@jedimasterpickle3]

...his new, valid WR is 1 second slower than his invalid. He got to essentially the same time, but it was slightly slower.

[@arfirik]

"How can someone accidentally go out of bounds?" Corrupt green mushroom noises are heard from afar.

[@CyrusLagom]

Ah, yes, Binyot's passive is always a gem

[@garnet1918]

2:50 I enjoy the incoherency of your anti-glitch comment.

[@BogusmanTheSwagman]

I wanna like but funny number

[@garnet1918]

@@BogusmanTheSwagman Good on ye, Ajay. Ye shall be rewarded in the next life for this deed.

[@ethanlivemere1162]

It's based on a notorious comment turned copypasta I think, you can often find it on speedrun videos

[@Citiesinmotionplayer]

@@ethanlivemere1162 It's even featured in the credits of some sourceruns speedruns

[@purungo]

This is not speed run. It's like use cheating: you are use holes in textures, etc. you cross half game over the air. this? is not honestly, I think. IMHO - this is not rightly - to go like it. It is immitating of complete of the game. Sure - you make global and cosmical work

[@CalculatedRiskAK]

One of the few instances of ACTUALLY not knowing that you were "cheating" on accident. Glad to see that he did get the WR back though. (Cheating is in quotes because of the mention that the disallowed technique was increasing the difficulty.)

[@Hummeldon]

Great video Msushi and super informative. I know I've been in community discussions before where things like this need to be discussed and while it does hurt in the short term to disqualify/adjust a run the fact of the matter is that if the runner is truly skilled in a game it doesn't diminish the talent they have and usually they can get their placement back quickly. Glad to see he was able to get back on top after it was all said and done!

[@Elloliott]

Hearing about in-bound portal speed runs makes me curious about out of bounds speedruns

[@adriaan3428]

It's the second video like this I watch, and I was like : "Oh that's a really good explanation, I wonder if this youtuber is known" and then I scroll down and discover that it's Msushi... That was quite surprisig, as I didn't know he was doing videos like this. Very interesting by the way.

[@mooshiros7053]

Guys. If you're annoyed people are using glitches. GO WATCH A GLITCHLESS RUN! GLITCHLESS EXISTS!

[@strangeactuallylegume]

Honestly I can’t even _get_ mad at them, they’re fuckin awesome. Like I can barely even play the game quickly without a speed run or glitches! Finding, setting up and executing all these glitches just to save a couple of seconds is awesome and you gotta give respect to that amount of effort!

[@thisbox]

"This is not speed run. It's like use cheating: you are use holes in textures, etc. you cross half game over the air. this? is not honestly, I think. IMHO - this is not rightly - to go like it. It is immitating of complete of the game. Sure - you make global and cosmical work" Msushi

[@CrashDy]

Glitches aren't black and white always. Allowing some but denying others is difficult and at times can infuriate the community. With the extend of glitches, it's good that most basic speedrun categories do allow glitches but simply not out-of-bounds and stuff. When credit warp was discovered I believe it got its own category. Arguably it takes less skill to beat the game so quickly, but that doesn't include the hours of work figuring out the RAM states and how to trigger them.

[@bruhSaintJohn]

2:47 in a nutshell

[@strebicux6174]

Sounds like dialogue from The Room

[@AdrianOkay]

I'm gonna make a big copypasta making this longer

[@mooshiros7053]

speed space run

[@the_kovic]

"Make sure to stay humble" is such a great message and something all of us should really stick to.

[@Mycernius_]

Real refreshing to see a video talk about a runner's honest mistake, what they might have glossed over when achieving their time, and the technicality on what they did wrong. Much preferable rather than the "top 10 cheaters caught" videos that come out right after the other.

[@seveny6to4]

Always good to see your videos pop up in my feed! Very cool!

[@JohnTK]

1:20 Shows 2 clips, one is in bounds and one is out of bounds. Me: these are the same

[@TS_Mind_Swept]

Kind of sad to see so many times get disqualified, but it's nice that he didn't get discouraged and is still running the category; best of luck to him 💛💚

[@alshuki3478]

At least he didn't go whining about it but he took it and tried again. I respect that a lot.

[@proxy1035]

i love how some have a custom portal gun... it seems very useful to make sure noone can just take the footage and use it as their own fake run

[@DoorknobPlus]

*badabun noises*

[@the1barbarian781]

So shizzal got the first sub 10 speedrun twice

[@The_asdfghjkl]

I honestly love these speedrun explanations.I don't usually speedrun ,but I love these.

[@thespanishinquisition161]

The video: showing two speed runs Me: “tf going on?”

[@UnknownCleric2420]

"Did you do it?" "Yes." "What did it cost?" "1 second."

[@adamantite9391]

shizzal would never do this 😭

[@spidernh]

shizzle*

[@Lucas_15]

@@spidernh sizzle*

[@spidernh]

@@Lucas_15 dang I was hoping to woooosh someone but seems like ppl have brains f

[@Kacpa2]

@@Lucas_15 jizzle? Like Jimmy DeSanta?

[@mr.explodey6745]

@@Lucas_15 fo-shizzle*

[@gints2766]

The music change when the technicality explanation came full circle? Genius

[@JohnWick-qf1gr]

the fact that shizzal's pfp is squilliam just adds to his status as a legend in my books

[@yuriMartyr]

1:44 it's so fucking funny to me how he has squilliam on his portal gun 😂😂😂

[@NithinJune]

"holding the world record in all of the categories" Oh no... not again (We're finally arriving by HOME starts playing with summoning salt voiceover in the background

[@10EightyPlays]

Loves how he talks about himself in 3rd person.

[@voidedifbroken3953]

I'm actually really excited to watch this one.

[@funch7]

does that mean you dont get excited to watch his other videos

[@voidedifbroken3953]

I just get rather excited for those ones :)

[@wrestlecrazygamer7419]

Least it didn't turn out like most "caught speedrunner" vids where the guy caught quits speedrunning forever. Nice to see a "understandable have a nice day" kind of ending where they cleaned up the mistake.

[@RaeIsGaee]

I love when an OOB speedrun is quite literally indistinguishable from an IB speedrun.

[@hazzak4354]

"Make sure to stay humble" says the boy who plugs his own speedrunning success every opportunity he gets

[@identocidal]

portal speedruns happen so quick, i don't how a beginner speedrunner would learn from another just by watching speedruns.

[@tuzar359]

Man, looking at how Shiz sweeps through these test chambers it reminds me of the transitions for the music video for A$AP Forever

[@tirex3673]

2:52, I mean some kind of "glitches" can metaphorically happen in non video games, in form of rule oversights, like in chess for a long time, the rules never specifying, making it technically legal, to have pawns turn into figures of your opponent, or the "Pam-Krabbé-Rochade".

[@TocoaPuffs]

"And uhh... a lot of other people did too" haha Lots of overtime about to be put in for his volunteer job

[@Numberplay]

props to this guy to stay in the game and get his WR back with legal strats though. It also shows it really was a mistake he wasn,t aware of.

[@timecubed]

this guy has the most quite outros ever it's kinda weird not being ear blasted whenever an outro happens

[@optimisticwatermelon]

"And I'll see all you dudes.. IN THE NEXT VIDEOOOO!!!!!!!!!!" - Sean McGlockLin

[@swiftdragon8995]

"lets talk about it" you missed the perfect chance for a GMM reference

[@haxihoovis1]

>does run >invalidated >"whoops, my bad" >does new run only 1 second slower

[@cymtastique]

Even after his invalidated runs were removed, he was still top 10. That's pretty impressive.

[@HammerdWalrus]

When I saw the clip first I thought it was because of the fact that you could see out of bounds for the slightest fraction of a second when he goes through the closed door. The clip does show him as slightly to the right of other runs where they shoot against the wall with the door which could have caused that little hint of out of bounds. Which I'm surprised people haven't seen that IIRC.

[@Secretcodrin]

The very definition of camera ending man's whole career

[@snonsig2688]

Not really

[@Pengart]

well done :) portal speedruns are amazing :) good that there are certain rules, and yes they should be followed.

[@NonRandomUser]

Imagine having an "in-bounds" speedrun limitation in a game literally called "Portal". (I get the ruling and stuff, just thought it was ironic.)

[@LotsOfS]

7:05 what does the gun pov look like on a legit run?

[@doneaccount]

It would be the same as the player's POV until the edge glitch or save glitch is performed

[@LotsOfS]

@@doneaccount this does not help

[@asdanjer]

I always think about how funny this whoud be in another context. "Yea sorry guys I forgot to Boise by the laws of physics"

[@binarymatrixlol8197]

Youre so damn good at explaining game mechs. Keep on the good work!

[@Postitagain]

Shizzal goes a little fast through a door Mods: Thats a paddling

[@CC-uy9wp]

they removed all his records like: "heh, we already know this guy's gonna get WR again tomorrow"

[@TheRaker1000]

"Shizzal still remains the best inbounds portal speedrunner." You Can't Even say that anymore. ;)

[@clairevoyanceSLA]

dinoz would a word with you

[@the1barbarian781]

@@clairevoyanceSLA shizzal came back and quickly got two wrs

[@clairevoyanceSLA]

@@the1barbarian781 yes i know, i am involved with portal speedrunning. that reply was from before shizzal was back to grinding.

[@7davidb]

"Make sure to stay humble." You rock, man. 👊

[@gamingliam2436]

Shizzal: expert portal player Pop: SWUILLIAM

[@bobingabout]

1:49 No I didn't notice anything different. Thanks for explaining it though.

[@cube_cup]

What a shame that so much history had to be removed from the leader board.

[@LotsOfS]

2:52 the holy text returns

[@RED-jg6mt]

Cool video man, loving these

[@Kolop315]

Go directly to 6th place, do not pass go, do not collect 200 lemons.

[@HoferEric]

Great content, I'm glad this one got recomended for me!

[@AndGoatz04]

Certified "ah, well shit. Oops." Moment

[@CrashDy]

Poor Shizzal. Getting his runs disqualified over something he didn't realize. Luckily he was able to redeem his title. Still must've felt so bad about it though.

[@SKCro.]

3:04: I never understood how accelerated backhops worked. *I'm probably doing it wrong,* but I can't gain speed from jumping backwards while crouching. Does it need like frame-perfect input to pull it off?

[@mrcephalopod]

Afaik it's pretty close to frame perfect. If you don't jump RIGHT as you land you get slowed down by friction physics or something like that. I believe some speedrunners bind the jump function to their mouse scroll wheel to make lots of jump inputs in a row to make sure that they're able to jump in time

[@HyperMario64]

You should give it another shot, there is plenty of margin to pull it off without even a binding on the mouse wheel. The key is to land the first couple of jumps within a few ticks after landing to overcome the deceleration of not pressing the movement keys on the ground. Once you have enough speed it's really easy to conserve it, it can be translated to ASH giving you some amount of forward view or even the rather difficult AFH requiring the player to briefly hit the backwards key on landing to accelerate forward. As for the basics to initiate ABH, you need to reach max forward speed on foot, then jump, drop the movement keys while doing a 180° and beginning to crouch, then you just need to nail the timing of the jumps while staying in the crouch position. Chamber 14 gives you plenty of space to practice at the beginning and if you need more, map escape_02 has a large parking lot used for the ending cutscene you can access using noclip. Again, it's definitely not tick perfect, many runners do it live very consistently using the mouse wheel. The glitch also made it into the 2007 build of HL2. It you own HL2 or any of the episodes, it's much easier to learn ABH because sprinting can give you much more speed to initiate it. And if you bind the mouse wheel on jumping, it becomes really easy to get it.

[@SKCro.]

@@HyperMario64 Thanks for explaining it in such great detail!

[@GikamesShadow]

Imagine working so hard to be the best of the best, getting better with each new record only for it to be invalidated due to ONE small oversight God that sucks, poor guy I do hope he gets to beat that top record proper down the road

[@sirmattias]

I got disqualified twice from a sub category of portal; the flash version mappack glitchless runs, first time i used a trick i was originally able to use but the new mods made it banned because of my run LMAO. second time, I ABH'd and at the time didn't know what ABH meant and didn't realise exactly what I was doing. after that I was able to get 2 verified WR runs in the category :D:D

[@lukegoslow1257]

Two msushi videos is a week? My goodness Christmas has come early...

[@wheepysheepy9594]

Tbh I can barely tell the difference in some of these glitches from the normal, which to me makes it pretty understandable to be an accident tbh

[@thephoenixking1086]

How a simple game can be so much fun just by trying to finish it as fast as possible hah. I got the impression speed running is more fun than playing the game itself. kinda like a race, gives you that nervous EDGE to get better and better, addictive.

[@clottedscream]

Poor guy. i'd feel like crap if all my hard work got invalidated on a mistake that small

[@archivedcafeteria]

Shizzal just has a better gaming chair

[@neutraldalek4222]

How did the camera detachment glitch not cause a category split?

[@amano-20]

shizzal really is a beast at this game

[@poblo1299]

alright alright, I see the time and passion that goes into these vids, im down for the ride, subbing and liking ur uploads.

[@KapitalistFeeco]

i did not undertand any single word but that video is cool my dude

[@kleptiic1753]

in love with that cube throw

[@Silly_Sulky_Seli]

love the Ducktales Moon Theme outro

[@TinyDeskEngineer]

Wait, you don't die instantly in the goo? I knew it was just water that damages you, but I never knew it did so little damage every half second.

[@echolocation.]

Nice to see you again I've changed my name a bit so I might not seem familiar but it's nice to see you again buddy

[@LumiSuomi]

Me; struggling to go outside of bounds on purpose: Speedrunners:

[@MWIKnight]

I would need a schematic to figure out what you are talking about. Also need to know where the portal should have been because all i see is a hole in the wall just like the others.

[@TheMainTagonist]

Mods: What did you do!? Shizzal: Went out of bounds on accident... Mods: how the fuck you go out of bounds on accident?

[@DanielKay06]

Ooof getting disqualified for something you did accidentally without it being obvious is hard, but hey he managed to still come out on top with a valid record :D

[@smrki506]

lord sushi blesses us with another upload 🙏🙏🙏

[@Starwort]

For the camera/body split it should be the other way round? The camera stays in place but the body moves to the other portal (otherwise the camera would jump around weirdly)

[@Msushi]

In this case the "camera" more just represents the portal gun. The point at which portal gun shots originate from goes through the portal, this is "the camera," but yes, what the player physically sees doesn't actually change.

[@Starwort]

@@Msushi I wonder why the developers at valve thought to make the player's body/gun position separate from the camera position. Either way, interesting video!