Fake Super Mario 64 World Record Caught After 12 Years

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[@karljobst]

I've had some time off this month but I've got some really cool vids planned for April. Hope you've all been well. Please go and listen to the amazing series Songs of Chaos: link.michaelrmiller.co.uk/KarlJobst

[@Nightcaat]

Karl Jobst in Ohio be like: I caught someone playing normally

[@agentcairney1802]

Can you do a video on the soe speedrun record

[@microwaveoven2]

April gon b gud

[@SonnyJim173]

Awesome, you are 1 of my favorite channels of all time

[@Theomann_]

Can never have enough Karl Jobst videos

[@soupcake3092]

Mario, blink 2 frames early if you're in a spliced run.

[@mcblaggart8565]

Blink and you'll miss it.

[@frankmarano1118]

Mario don't blink & tell!

[@Austin_Red]

this is a hard quote 🔥

[@ahbraveconscript997]

It's-a-Me, Mario! [blink] [blink]

[@TheReal64PoligonalMario]

**blinks 2 frames early**

[@rizmkw4157]

you either die a speedrunning hero or live long enough to see Karl Jobst make a video about you...

[@Manstam]

Or charliebrown64 Still crazy how that holy moly guy wouldn't have been caught if he didn't have such a big head

[@Dungeonseeker1uk]

People don't cheat to get a quicker time, they cheat to get a time quicker - Karl Jobst

[@oldg2695]

Well said 👊✌️

[@someoneout-there2165]

🤣🤣

[@somechupacabrawithinternet8866]

this saying is one of the dumbest ones ever, what if someone wanted to live and stay a hero? will you kill them?

[@snowduck6365]

I really love how formal Karl sounds. For me, it feels like I'm in a business meeting and my boss is talking to me about speedrunning.

[@charlottecorday8494]

This should be a pinned comment

[@gerryjtierney]

​@@charlottecorday8494send feet

[@nocturnalverse5739]

Dude has infinite credibility. If he makes a conclusion I trust it and someone better have the receipts if they doubt it, because he always has receipts.

[@fannaffannaf]

Then your boss ends up being the best boss because he calls you an absolute legend and you KNOW your boss Karl is an absolute legend

[@user-ol4dl9ks2o]

His accent is pretty fun to listen to, honesly

[@LeoA05]

Queenpwnsalot simp/husband or w/e: "Why is her blindfold run being looked at with the highest of scrutiny compared to everyone else?" Speedrunning community: Lets take a look at a Super Mario 64 record from 12 years ago and pay attention to the 64th frame blink.

[@wildweasel4633]

Not to mention, it was the record for only a DAY. Crazy.

[@nocturnalverse5739]

I know right? Some people just love the hunt.

[@reverieofmusic436]

her simps really are some of the saddest fucking humans ever.

[@skeletonbuyingpealts7134]

Never doubt the power of autism

[@abandonwareguru]

I giggle every time I see "Billy Mitchell" in the list of patrons.

[@UndertaleFan-cx2mc]

Lmao

[@Connie_TinuityError]

sometimes I do wonder who exactly it is that's using the Billy Mitchell name for patreon

[@Soren_Pedersen]

I didn't see that before i read this comment :P Cool easter egg, just in time for easter ;)

[@robdielemans9189]

Thanks for noticing, now it will make me giggle every time I see it as well.

[@JD_13]

ah damn, I made a comment about this, then scrolled down and saw you already spotted it 😂 Oh well, not deleting, its too funny. Maybe Billy is a fan! lol

[@Karanthaneos]

Dude held his spliced record unnoticed for 12 years. Ghost of Tsukushima

[@VTWS]

Tsukishima was also the name of a Bleach character who had the power to lie about the past…. IIRC that arc ended around 2012 so speedrunner Tsukishima possibly knew what he was doing lol

[@Bleeglesplotch]

​@@VTWSkind of a trash power tbh... literally anyone can lie about the past 😂

[@samakiraroyjanssen6326]

@@Bleeglesplotch yes, but when he does it, you automatically believe it... and it changes to match. if he stabbed you, and made himself your closest friend, who you told all your secrets? he knows them. every. single. one. if he strikes the ground, and made himself have been there before, setting up a trap where you're about to step? slam. the trap triggers.

[@Bleeglesplotch]

@@samakiraroyjanssen6326 oh okay lol, that makes more sense hahaa

[@rory8182]

@@samakiraroyjanssen6326 so reality warping, damn that seems nearly impossible to lose with. I imagine there are limits or it is on the level of All Fiction

[@NeoSaturos123]

I love the phrase "SM64 scientist Pannenkoek". So absurd-sounding, such a perfect descriptor.

[@MRKapcer13]

"Looking for anomalies in the" -Splice- "audio track." I saw what you did there. I appreciated it.

[@Zxv975]

Omg I thought that was a production mistake and just thought "huh, Karl normally has really high standards, I wonder how he didn't notice that" and didn't think twice about it, lmao.

[@deltalord6969]

Maybe the real cheated speedruns were the frames we spliced along the way

[@atemoc]

Congrats, you won the internet.

[@osheroth]

☠️☠️☠️

[@Marzimus]

😂😂 Comment of the week! ☝️

[@TheHouseOfGod269]

Gold

[@NullScar]

Yeah, as he ☝🏻said, you won Internet today! 😂

[@FalseRadiation]

I see ‘Fake World Record’ , I click

[@enjoisk8er811]

Some of the best content on youtube

[@bartvansliedregt5482]

Indeed

[@rinkincaid5470]

I see "Karl Jobst uploaded" and I click

[@nicerhabara]

I see a new video by Karl Jobst, I click

[@pass_]

I see Mario's nose, I drool in arousal

[@HistoricalWeapons]

Love the word choice “ancient” for gaming context. For historians we use approximately 2000 years ago

[@C0Assassin]

I love how pannekoek is referred to as the residential sm64 scientist lmao

[@miljororforsprakpartiet290]

Pancace is a swenglish world. you took it from us as loan world, it is pang caca in other nanguage

[@Katliner]

Cheater: You can't defeat me. Audacity: I know, but he can. Mario: *blinking*

[@MarMaxGaming]

So true, Mario’s eyes of truth! Poetic, honestly

[@Dishanta_Goswami]

​@@MarMaxGamingThe real Lens of Truth

[@DetectiveJones]

I bet when making Super Mario 64 that whoever was involved with making the blinking animations thought it would just be a cool little detail that might not be noticed or appreciated. Only to have it be the key detail that exposes Speed runners decades after the games release.

[@karlcole5617]

they actually probably just chose it was a simple way to do it.

[@themr_wilson]

@@karlcole5617 in a cool and detailed way

[@JamesClark1991]

Am I the only one who appreciated the fact that they chose the number '64' for the amount of frames between blinks? :-)

[@hoodedman6579]

Note that there’s actually like five different types of blinking animations or something for different characters, so it seems like a bunch of people made their own separate versions, rather than one person making them all. Of course, only Mario’s are likely to be useful for checking for cheating.

[@tobiasha93]

@@JamesClark1991 That's prob just because it's a power of 2 (I know the console was named after it as well - still not necessarily a gimmick but intended). Back when the game released optimizing games with small stuff like that was actually still done. Not like today where developers just ignore any optimization and expect endusers to have nasa computers.

[@orion.6]

Its nice to see a sponsor thats actually good. I loved the first 2 books in the series and ill read book 3 soon.

[@Jansenbaker]

Happy to hear this series is getting out there. Didn't expect it to pop up here.

[@Michael_R_Miller]

Thanks for reading!! Hope Defiant keeps up the pace for you :)

[@miljororforsprakpartiet290]

i usally scroll past that so i did not see the sponser its win wiin

[@thomasflanagan505]

I'm a Show-off, I love showing off my Ability in something... the thought of faking it and then putting my performance out to the masses to see "My Achievement" makes me physically ill.

[@EnglishTimewithMrChris]

I feel the same way. When I was playing GoldenEye on the Wii I joined a hacked match with an XP booster that leveled me up way more than I should have been. I was halfway to the top level of 56 at the time and I deleted my online file and restarted and grinded all the way to a legit level 56 lol. I have always been the type that needs to 100% a game. I replayed all of Grand Theft Auto 3 because one of the decisions I made in the game caused me to be stuck at 99%.

[@boiledelephant]

There'd be no satisfaction in it, for sure. Every time I've used cheat codes in a single player game (which is basically intended play) I just feel detached and lose all interest in the game. I guess some people just really, really need validation by any means.

[@TheShinyTresasLW]

If shigeru has been proven to not splice his runs, and he achieved tsukishima cycle shortly after the faked run, i think we should call it shigeru cycle from now on!

[@ryanclemons1]

I agree

[@okr765]

Unfortunately Shigeru Cycle is already the name for a slower cycle

[@TheShinyTresasLW]

@@okr765 just rename the slow one to "old shigeru" 😅

[@Birtheater4545]

You can’t just credit someone for something they didn’t discover

[@plebisMaximus]

@@Birtheater4545 tsukishima wasn't credited for discovering it either, just for being the first to hit it in a wr run. from how I understood it, at least.

[@jnub]

its nuts how people know so much about this game that they now have an essentially bulletproof way to detect splicing based off of the player character blinking. insane.

[@dextersdead]

insane

[@lajeandom]

but wait I'm a bit confused...I understand that the eyes blink at the same exact time consistently, but what is used here is a number of frames right? But depending on the tool used for recording the speedrun in question, and final FPS rate of the video...wouldn't that affect the data? I mean an old video with very low quality is not the same FPS as a recorded video of today on OBS with high bitrate and 60 fps recording...How are they sure that the recording didn't miss a frame somewhere and therefore, that would be why the counting is off?

[@skotiaH2O]

​@@lajeandom My guess is that the problem doesn't subsist because Mario 64 is also a very old game, but i'm not sure

[@yourmomsboyfriend3337]

@@lajeandomvideo framerate is consistent, regardless of how old the software is. It would be simple multiplication to calculate the difference to the video’s framerate and the game’s. Video stuttering and freezing is more difficult, but you’re forgetting that the blink timer should be consistent the entire run. You could easily calculate the frames dropped during a video freeze by analyzing Mario’s movement or more consistent elements

[@Eliholz]

@@lajeandom iirc Drogie goes into more detail on this (linked in the description). Basically they take a 1-2 frame error into account, but it shouldn't deviate more than that even with different frame rates, especially with 60 fps being a multiple of Mario 64's 30 fps.

[@syndrac6254]

Bro literally got caught by the old "Blink twice if you're held against your will"

[@prodfrxsty]

i’m afraid of people who can memorize frames and compare it to gameplay even if i am doing nothing wrong

[@SpilledShelf5]

There's going to be a point where cheating detecting is so advanced scores from the 1800s are going to be absolutely pounded

[@starwing1795]

the more advanced we get at detecting, the older the runs we check are

[@THEGRUMPTRUCK]

"Four score and seven years ago, our president, Abraham Lincoln, set this Speedrun record in Super Mario 64. Thanks to countless people sifting through old footage for thousands of hours, new technology has shown Abraham Lincoln might have faked this speedrun."

[@MG-gt6hp]

"Mrs. Elanor Bartleby of Gary Indiana THOUGHT she could get away with cheating her 1879 potluck social pinochle score, but I SEE ALL."

[@manga_accurate_angel]

I wonder if it'll be harder to detect cheating in black and white.

[@davidjsaul]

I don't think so, these so-called detectives just weren't there to see the run start in second gear!

[@Neckromorph]

At this point ways of catching cheaters in speedrunning has become an art in of itself.

[@Smoove_J]

The amount of effort and expertise is pretty ridiculous at every level. This splicing thing sounds like something out of a spy movie.

[@chillstoneblakeblast3172]

Forensics is a Science field after all

[@themonsterunderyourbed9408]

Someone should speed run catching fake speed runs.

[@tombailey1059]

It's almost like competitive video gaming is a waste of everyone's time.

[@ascott7321]

Dat SM64 scientist.

[@thegrossmeyer]

Was literally thinking earlier today how I hadn’t seen a new Jobst video in a while and here is a new video! Great insight as usual, who would’ve thought the way they programmed Mario’s eye blinks would be so important nearly 30 years later!!

[@s1a-l8r15]

I was waiting for when you covered this discovery, it amused me how such a small animation detail can uncover so much in the case of cheaters.

[@Talon323]

Quite litereally a "blink and you'll miss it" way to find splices.

[@densai89]

It’s like cracking a cold case. They think they can get away but someone’s always watching.

[@0palOpal0pal]

I'd love to see the folks who comb speedruns like this do something like investigate camera footage from cold cases. Who knows what they could notice? It'd be a little like the hackers who find missing people not only to help, but as a challenge.

[@Ashfold_Eberesche]

Man, even though I knew about this method I still watched the whole video and the 12 minutes flew by. That's why you're one of the very few channels that I'm subscribed to and have "rung the bell" so I see every video you post. I've literally watched every video on your channel and I consider it time well spent. Also, big congratulations on 1M subs - I don't remember how many you had when I initially subscribed (I want to say I remember it being sub 100k? I remember I first started watching when you did your first Doom Eternal video and then uploaded a Celeste video next and from there I was hookeD) but that's an insane milestone and you 100% deserve it. All the best from across the gap in NZ, Ashfold.

[@BlountForce]

I’ve seen every video now that you’ve done in the last 3-4 years, at least within 24 hours of the upload. I love your channel

[@GaussianEntity]

The weird thing is that Pannenkoek made the blinking video a long time ago, including the mechanics of blinking. Surprising that it took much longer to translate that into an anticheat tool.

[@jordananderson2728]

Just like with most discoveries, it's super easy to see that there's a neat new thing that you can use, but it's incredibly hard to translate that into actual use.

[@TrianglePants]

YuGiOh cards that become "broken" years later, in a nutshell.

[@Scarage21]

I often like to say: "life only consists of simple ideas, you just need to have them". Many times a discovery feels so obvious after the fact, but before, simply no one had the idea. Like with the TM cheating scandal. We could have figured out 10 years ago that you can watch the input of a replay, but no one thought about it until someone did ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@Rislear]

kinda funny that Drogie went out of his way to not name the cheater but then Jobst airs him out without a care in the world.

[@MetaKnight68]

as soon as I saw the Drogie video i was like "karl's gonna do a video on this and name them isn't he" and sure enough, here we are

[@LoWsDominios]

If you dont wanna get exposed for doing bad things dont do them in the first place. Plain and simple. Edit: I find fitting that if tbe record was public, the exposing should be too, regarding that It altered public records on a public competition.

[@mandowarrior123]

In Japan you get in trouble for defamation even if the allegations are true.

[@jkazos]

@@mandowarrior123 Stuff like that makes me glad to be in the US, despite the other problems we still have. Losing freedoms makes it harder to keep from losing everything else.

[@bomric1788]

Not name-and-shaming video game hackers/cheaters is such empty virtue signaling. It's a video game, not SA or something

[@jimmyrotten1652]

Glad you're back. I was just checking yesterday to see if I missed anything and saw that it had been a while.

[@Tolly7249]

Videos like this are why I love this channel so much. I learn cool new esoteric things about video games and speedrunning that I never even considered before!

[@miljororforsprakpartiet290]

escootric ????

[@MrEW1985]

Far more sophisticated than Billy Mitchell's work

[@thisisfyne]

Billy would have a fake official plaque claiming his Mario blinking is legit.

[@ElMaxRaikkonen]

I read 12 years later My mind: ooh so 2005 Reality: 2011 Me: 😮😮

[@huguesdepayens807]

Yes, I'm 20 not 14.

[@caileyrookids]

@@williampotter3369 They were saying the run happened in 2011, not that it's currently 2011.

[@miljororforsprakpartiet290]

ahahahah h no you tub in 2leek5 :P there was not even xbox

[@mrboberson7424]

I love that the audio was cut together while you were explaining splicing

[@damians.7859]

Super entertaining video! Really clever technique, I wonder if there are any other hidden ways yet to be discovered.

[@Deeptunester]

This is the speedrunning equivalent of genetic genealogy being used to solve 50+ year old crimes. Fascinating stuff.

[@RandomGuy0987]

The algorithm just served me a bunch of videos about true crime and the advent of dna forensics... coincidence?

[@hellterminator]

Drogie: I'll protect the cheater's privacy and call him Hasu64. Karl: *TSUKISHIMA*

[@LilacMonarch]

I was wondering why the name didn't sound familiar. Totally forgot about the fake name thing

[@ZenoDovahkiin]

I mean, I think it's fair. If you're proven beyond reasonable doubt to be a cheater, I don't think the accusation has any responsibility to hide your identity whatsoever.

[@hellterminator]

@@ZenoDovahkiin Oh, absolutely. And morality aside - as I commented on the original video - I think it's actually counterproductive. Making any would be harassers invest the (couple minutes of) effort into identifying the cheater makes them _more_ likely to follow through with the actual harassment. I was just tickled by the juxtaposition.

[@BUTTNUTT69]

It's called virtue signaling. He wants the moral high ground with no responsibility.

[@CommandoBlack123]

Imagine not naming a cheater by their account name

[@NickMineboom]

Hi you absolute legend..I love your vids but i didnt see any outlat speedrunning videos and i think the scene there really deserves some recognitions

[@realhojo4]

Another amazing video, as usual. Thanks for the content!

[@GregorDuckman]

"Mario 64 Scientist" Now wait just a damn min- "Pannenkoek" P r o c e e d.

[@napoleonfeanor]

Pancake?

[@Platinscar]

@napoleonfeanor It's from a meme, I think it's pancake in dutch​

[@Liqoh]

@@PlatinscarYeah it translates to pancake in dutch

[@fizzybossyt8675]

​@@Platinscarmeme? I thought that was just the name of someone involved in Mario speedrunning. Or am I misunderstanding you?

[@Platinscar]

@@fizzybossyt8675 maybe it's both

[@Michael_R_Miller]

Thanks for helping to spread the word on Songs of Chaos, Karl! A big thank you from me to anyone who checks the books out. I really hope you enjoy them :D

[@LachlanMiller]

Great to see you are still writing. I read the Eragon books as they came out - will be checking out your new series.

[@toastle8005]

The moment he compared it to Eragon, I took notice, and thought ‘damn, this might actually be interesting, I haven’t read an actually great fantasy series in a while’. Then the picture came up of the servant boy wearing an eye covering like the rescued dragon, and for the first time in years, I actually clicked straight off to the product being advertised, mid-video. Screw you, in thirty seconds you’ve got me genuinely interested and the concept sounds brilliant. *I’ll take your entire 70-hour stock*

[@theoutsiderjess4869]

Eragon is really good definetly checking it out

[@Michael_R_Miller]

@@LachlanMiller Erm I am not Paolini haha - but if you liked Inheritance you'll probably like my Songs of Chaos series

[@Michael_R_Miller]

@@toastle8005 well thank you! I hope you love the adventure so far

[@absolutelysobeast]

Dude! That Donkey Kong Country 2 music in the background was an EXCEPTIONAL choice. Talk about memories…. Thank you so much

[@TransRightsMatter]

5:40: Audio irregularity in your audio irregularity. Recursion.

[@xavierstanton8146]

That's crazy to me. Who would think about checking the blinking of Mario of all things to find splices

[@plebisMaximus]

Same type of people who busted another long standing cheated record in Super Meat Boy because a little animated icon in the corner was off by a few frames lol. These people care a lot.

[@antoniob6143]

There are people who like to explore small details and stuff that regular people don't mind

[@wacpj1929]

Same type of people who exploit parallel universes in order to optimize arbitrary game metrics. We're talking about a goddamn legend

[@frijolitoazul4343]

I guess this is the same as looking for any kind of idle animation on characters or ambience inside the game, except the blinking is obviously much more hidden and unnoticeable at first, but if an animation such as mario's blinking is consistent during a whole speedrun attempt then that animation should be as much bulletproof evidence as mario's blinking here, we just gotta find these animation cycles in games

[@popdg2412]

To be fair, Mario is always on screen so if there was anywhere to check it's on him

[@bouboulroz]

Mario blinks every 64 frames. Damn, the devs were really having fun with the hidden references. I wonder how many more values they just set at 64 in the game.

[@kennyslg8914]

I was thinking the same thing!

[@shiytp]

They aren't all references. There are hardware limits in the console's 64-bit processor and they use this sequence for consistency in the programming.

[@yourmomsboyfriend3337]

@@shiytpyes, and do you know where they got the name for the console and the game? The processor architecture. It’s still a reference. They didn’t have to put timers on the bit architecture of the CPU when this game was written in C

[@plebisMaximus]

@@shiytp My brand new Ryzen 7900X is also a 64 bit processor. It's not really all that limited by anything but clock speed and the fact it was single core. I don't believe there's anything really significant about the number 64 to a 64 bit processor that makes the code more consistent. It's probably either an easter egg just for the devs or more or less random.

[@whuzzzup]

@@shiytp Yes, as we all know, the highest number is 64 and thus he can not blink any slower. /s No this is certainly not a hardware limit, lol.

[@michelvanderlinden8363]

excellent video! Its interesting to see how far speedrunning anti-cheat detection has come over the years!

[@FurryNonsense]

"How many times do we have to teach you this lesson, old man?!"

[@ScrubMyTub]

Tsukishima Cycle? More like Splicer Shuffle

[@hariman7727]

Or Cheater Cycle.

[@aidanhogan-thomas1797]

Just make it shigeru cycle. Call the other one old shigeru, now the guy who hit it in a run for the first time has the name.

[@hariman7727]

@@aidanhogan-thomas1797 that works too.

[@huguesdepayens807]

Tsukishima shaker

[@jonschaub7574]

I love how you break down the cheat and the discovery methods from a technical perspective. Keep doing what you do ♥

[@OakCityGamers]

Keep it up. I heard about this a couple weeks ago. Thanks for the signal boost on some stuff

[@abloogywoogywoo]

Cheaters don't deserve anything named after them. Remove Tsukishima cycle, and replace it with Blink-and-you-will-miss-it cycle. :)

[@LilacMonarch]

Like in Link's Awakening when you steal and then his name gets changed to THIEF, we should call it CHEATER cycle

[@ProperDev]

I'm stealing this for my next run. Love this title lol.

[@Dr_Andracca]

@@LilacMonarch The splice cycle works too.

[@Dr_Andracca]

Shorten it to the BAYWMI("bay-me" or "baw-me") cycle maybe? Also what's fucking stupid is we could just make a new category that allows for splicing together your best splits. Sure, it may not be as popular as standard runs, but I'm sure people would still be interested in being able to upload their best splits. That way failed attempts/old runs aren't just fully trashed.

[@miljororforsprakpartiet290]

karl is cheater too ^_^ i deserve a Pocal

[@P_l_B]

What pisses me off the most in cases like this is that the guy clearly had the skill to speedrun at a high level but either got impatient or greedy. I'm sure if there was a solid system in place to easily detect fake runs speedrunning would have another big surge in popularity but sadly we live in a world where Karl Jobst delivers great vids exposing a small amount of the caught cheaters, at least we get that positive out of it.

[@aspuzling]

I think this has been mentioned in other Karl Jobst videos but there is a tendency for highly skilled players to feel justified in cheating because they think they have the skills necessary to achieve a record anyway. Often they will say something like "I was only speeding up the time it would take to grind to get the right RNG for WR". They think it's not cheating because they are just tipping the scale of luck rather than skill. Even in a run like SM64 where RNG is less important, you can argue that whether you get BLJ on your first try is just a matter of luck once you know how to do it.

[@plebisMaximus]

@@aspuzling I think the exact quote he's used a few times is they "Don't cheat to get a faster time, they cheat to get a time faster", which sums it up real nice.

[@tobiasha93]

@@aspuzling If I remember correctly it was in the Dream video. Definitely in a minecraft one though. They "deserve" a world record so instead of grinding the hours they reduce the grind required to get that one good RNG run. Absolutely ridiculous dogshit take but apparently it helps them sleep at night.

[@cheetah219]

They're basically gaslighting themselves into believing they worked hard enough to be the best when in reality they simply didn't and they took a record away from people who did put in the work. That's the worst part.

[@Dr_Andracca]

@@plebisMaximus I'd actually be cool with a "best splits" or a "low/no RNG" category. It'd kind of be like a set-seed thing imo. Sure, it may be more of a practice-category and probably wouldn't be as popular, but is someone setting a speed record for a split while practicing not still impressive?

[@JackHarb89]

I on and off follow different Speed Runners, but I can't get enough of these dramas. Not especially because of the drama, but because I admire the dedication of the speed running community to come up with all these ideas to fight cheating. The depth of the knowledge is astounding. Just crazy. So inspiring :)

[@battle00333]

At 10:20 with the healthbar moving you can also see the timer lingering on 36.7 just a bit longer than the other numbers. its a fraction but noticeable.

[@illogicalJason]

“Remember, no speed runner wants to be exposed by Karl Jobst”

[@Skoopyghost]

I am not gay, but Karl looks like he works out. If anyone can expose themselves to me. It's better to Karl than out of shape old guy.

[@urlocallazerbird8531]

@@Skoopyghost what the hell is this comment?! LMFAO

[@asaasa7900]

@@urlocallazerbird8531 Look I mean I am gay, Karl DOES look pretty nice. Still uhh... a weird comment?

[@whoons4701]

Grats on 1 mill subs Karl!

[@jaredbeckwith]

Looking at spectrograms of the audio is genius! We use similar tech to detect seizures from changes in brain wave frequencies.

[@jeverydk]

Massive shoutout, to actually having a sponsorship, that potentially could get some people to read a book (if they dont listen to the audiobook)

[@Michael_R_Miller]

Read or listen, I don't care so long as you're enjoying the story!

[@bellermVA]

Just like Link is called Thief once you steal something in the shop, we should call the cycle the "Cheater Cycle" now.

[@jonro1091]

You want the truth? Just look into Mario’s eyes.

[@miljororforsprakpartiet290]

TETTE MIIII! MARIÅÅÅÅÅ! :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

[@StickFiguresMaster]

YOU CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!

[@BobbyBlackhearts666]

Karl, you Absolute Legend. I've started to worry, and just last night found out what you've been going through recently. I wish you the best of health and lots of time to rest up with your family! Thank you for your perseverance and work! Take good care of yourself!

[@hlcyn7]

1:39 “Historically, the most common way to detect splicing is by looking for anomalies in the” *audio splice* “audio track.” Very smooth, Karl

[@Rickfernello]

This makes me feel a bit sad, because even though cheat finding methods have been advancing, this shows that even old scores can stick around for this long, and cheating methods themselves also advance. It's important to keep increasing standards for speedrunning and challenge running that makes cheating more unlikely. Finding that stuff from blinking is very genius, really shows how deeply runners understand the games they play. Thanks for the video!

[@tobiasha93]

It's also sad on another level. You'd think before speedrunning got as popular as it is today the people actually had some sort of honor code about it. But apparently not. Cheater galore since day one.

[@vtubersubs3803]

It's not really that genius. The way these people analyze the game it's actually shocking it took until now for someone to realize the consistent blinking could be used to detect spliced runs.

[@mtb1392]

Drogie: “I’m not going to give their name bc they’ve already been punished” Karl: “Yeah so here’s a picture of his house” 😂

[@dafeac]

F@ck I know, I watched Drogie and I was ok with not knowing who it was, it was very wholesome of Drogie to do that, now is awkward

[@TheMiracleMatter]

@@dafeac It was very dumb because he didn't even hide the name properly. I could see it on his own video at approximately 4:47 iirc.

[@sailor5853]

It was stupid to go out of your way to protect a nickname of a speedrunner

[@JP-st9hn]

Love these! Thanks man!

[@GhostLyricist]

I can't believe the speed running community counts the number of blinks Mario does an entire run to confirm or deny a world record. That's some next level dedication

[@randovidupload9422]

It is actually pretty sad...

[@jeremiah5511]

"I did not cheat, its bOolshit! Im not a cheater, i did NAHT." "Oh hey karl jobst." *edit* I really can't believe so many of you guys know about The Room. In fact I don't BELIEVE this many people know about The Room

[@Anon-lu6ct]

😂

[@Mzero00x]

I understood that reference!

[@infjmale91]

"I lost the run to RN- Karl Jobsts".

[@john_blues]

(Throws water bottle)

[@Gigawood]

Beautiful 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@sachagd8796]

pannenkoek being called a super mario 64 scientist is so funny

[@RadkeMaiden]

He literally is, though. He makes a theoretical framework for what is possible in SM64, and then be backs up his hypotheses with experimental evidence.

[@thisisfyne]

because it's true

[@LonelySpaceDetective]

I mean is it wrong?

[@sachagd8796]

@@RadkeMaiden yeah i know that, but like calling somebody who play/create TAS for a video game a scientist will always be funny to me. I think you see what i mean, like the common perception of scientist is quite different from people like pannenkoek even though i agree that based on the definition, we could call pannekoek a scientist.

[@miljororforsprakpartiet290]

Tchae maybee the sort of hening employer :P he misses a detail so he is catch

[@seltersaar3512]

That's a first time seeing a video sponsored by a book series XD Since it has dragons in it, I definitely have to check it out.

[@Michael_R_Miller]

I appreciate that! Thank you and I hope you enjoy them :D

[@Seikent]

Congrats on reaching the 1M subscribers milestone!

[@ki11m3please325]

YAY!! Just noticed the 1 million. You deserve every single one of them with your hard work. Gratz man!

[@CriticalNobody]

It's always fascinating to see how the smallest detail snowballs into the complete deconstruction of a record. Also hope you're doing well after the surgery Karl!

[@robin13090]

Love the video as always ❤❤ please Karl i beg u stop putting thé light on cheaters ! M'y favorites videos of you are Always the Legends that legitimately go above and beyond.. especially the Dooms WR ❤❤❤

[@krievv]

Wait that's actually kinda cool how actual books are giving out sponsors. At first I thought it was just an audible ad lol.

[@doodle1565]

Here to feel like an absolute legend

[@Anon-lu6ct]

I’m feeling it now 🧽

[@Anon-lu6ct]

This is shocking with someone who was supposed to be a foundation for SM64 speed running

[@OCDistic]

I’ve been scratching at my arms and pulling my hair waiting for Karl to throw more videos out. These are like Crack, please post more 😭

[@PianoCinematix]

They should change the name to "blink cycle," lol. Great video, as always, mate. Thank you.

[@cubinator3826]

12 years without getting exposed is crazy.

[@TheMiracleMatter]

At least Truth and Justice *eventually* caught up to him.

[@miljororforsprakpartiet290]

not really it is getting diffisylt because all run is now the same . and all may be splicing so they cant shame one without getting banned themself

[@cubinator3826]

@@TheMiracleMatter yeah

[@PopADoseYo]

Always look forward to a video from Karl!

[@AlexandraSpeaks]

hope your recovery is going well Karl

[@jacksonzander6024]

I appreciate the splices when explaining how to detect splicing

[@SunnyTacos]

I love watching these videos, they are so informative, I love speedruns but I don’t speedrun myself because I lack the skill and patience, but even after watching hundreds of these across the years I still cant really tell if a run is fake or not, it amazes me to see how the community is so dedicated and talented to notice even the smaller details, thanks a bunch Karl you always tech me new stuff.

[@BarelyRunning]

Congratulations to 1 mil subscribers. Always enjoy your videos.

[@Arathrum]

the level of commitment, expertise, investigation and detail of your videos (and the entire community) never ceases to amaze me. i always had great admiration and fascination for speedrunners and never realized how deep some of these rabbitholes go. even for legitimate runs, so let alone the cheating part of things. thanks for the outstanding content. you have an extremely well balanced format (in all of your videos) that goes into the lore, detail and history to the point it's understandable for anyone with hardly any prior knowledge like myself.

[@junglekun22]

Was not expecting a pannenkoek name drop here but hell yeah I’m glad people are discovering him.

[@xdx1990]

Grats on the 1M subs, stoked for you man.

[@Caydiem]

Yo, welcome back, Karl. I was starting to miss your videos.

[@slowestbro1353]

I really like that you were sponsored by a specific like book series. That's so cool

[@fabioalvesshow]

Love your content Karl

[@luke2806]

in the current online landscape of streaming and pro gaming being a highly popular and financially lucrative thing, cheating in a game is like robbing a bank with no possibility of jail time. bad people can just cash out big time by being fake (and they are) and theres probably a LOT of people on twitch and youtube cheating right now. some of the biggest creators have been caught cheating, and even in huge tournaments theres people caught cheating.

[@bunnygirl8]

whilst it makes sense it was just forgotten due to how short it lasted and such, i do find it interesting this record wasn't mentioned at all in summoning salt's 16 star video, where he specifically said he wouldn't mention cheated runs, yet it of course wasn't known as cheated at the time

[@TaranAlvein]

Wow. It's amazing what simple details go overlooked for so long, only to become important later.

[@JW-qd3ol]

This is awesome!! I love the thinking outside the box!

[@GarfieldsToes]

Can't wait to see more! Another great video!

[@BladeCrossEXE]

My friends, it just keeps happening- Wait, wrong speedrun channel.

[@xSimone92x]

Missed you, Karl! Great video!

[@richardthemagician8991]

I'm glad you're recovering and back to work.