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Making a Jerry E. Howell's Farm Boy Hit n Miss Engine.......
In this video, part 1 of the series, I have a go at making the two gears.
This is my first ever attempt at making gears. I've fancied having a go at this for quite some time, and having found that the Farm Boy needs two - I just couldn't resist. I used my World of Ward rotary controller for the first time and it worked an absolute treat.
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Backing track credits......
Music: (intro) Water Lily by the 126ers - KZbin Audio Library
WARNING: Metal turning can be dangerous! I am not sure whether the methods I use are established ones, and I do not recommend them.
Please do not copy me without doing your own risk assessments!
You are responsible for your safety - not me!

[@BM-jy6cb]

It never ceases to amaze me when I find good channels how I haven't come across them before. Really nice videos thanks. The only problem is your voice is so relaxing I keep nodding off! 🙂🇬🇧

[@learningturningmetal]

Ha ha many thanks for the feedback. I think I should have tried making relaxation videos! All the best. Andrew

[@Workshop_Wasteland]

i cannot even express to you how happy i was to get a notification that you posted a new video. then when i came to check it out you are making a hit miss engine which is a passion of mine. i own 4 large hit miss engines myself. i am living my dream through you. i love your content and wont miss a single video you post!!!

[@richardmeyer418]

Me too (or is that "I, as well" - this English is a very confusing language). Andrew just comes across as one of the nicest, most decent people on these here interwebs.

[@learningturningmetal]

Hey thanks mate! I am ever so jealous - not just one but four! I would love to own a full size one but they don't seem to be very common here in the UK. Take care. Andrew

[@1953PE]

looks very satisfying making gears

[@learningturningmetal]

Yeah - great fun. My first attempt and they were spot on. Can't wait to make some more for my next engine. Cheers Andrew

[@davesden]

Great video. Thanks for the tips.

[@CraigLYoung]

Thank you Andrew your episode came at a good time. So tired of politicians and news agents pointing fingers. This is a welcome relief.

[@learningturningmetal]

Thanks Craig - yeah it's all a bit of a mess at the moment. Stay safe mate! Cheers Andrew

[@johnfox4691]

Super video. Thanks for letting us see your work, ( very brave of you ).

[@learningturningmetal]

Thanks John. I hope I don't regret taking on such a challenge. All the best. Andrew

[@welcometothemachineshop466]

They look like they came out great 👍

[@learningturningmetal]

Hi mate - they did work out really well. Now fitted to the engine and run as smooth as silk. Cheers Andrew

[@robertoswalt319]

Great job Andrew. You are more adventurous that I am in undertaking this massive undertaking. I am eager to watch your progress. Hit and miss engines are so fascinating to me.

[@learningturningmetal]

Thanks Robert. I'm not sure whether I've bitten more of that I can chew, but time will tell! Cheers Andrew

[@richardmeyer418]

Smashing results, Andrew. I remember your early videos, and thinkk you are light years ahead of where you were, yet unafraid to admit that some things are still unknown.

[@learningturningmetal]

Thanks Richard. I like to try new things out, but I'm not sure whether I've set the bar too high on this one. Time will tell. Cheers Andrew

[@philipbacon6026]

Andrew, excellent video thank you sharing your experiences with us. Stay safe.

[@learningturningmetal]

Thanks Philip - you stay safe too! Take care. Andrew

[@stephleonard2544]

Showing that stepper motor conversion in action really highlights it's strengths. Great project to showcase it, great video. Hope you family problems are eased now. Loving the clean cut look of the workshop, exactly the look of cleanliness I'm after. Thanks for sharing and enjoy your workshop time.

[@tobarapprentice6618]

I cannot wait for the next video..... Cheers and thanks as always.

[@learningturningmetal]

Yeah - the next one will be machining part of the body. I haven't got a clue how to go about it at the moment. I need to get the old brain in gear! Cheers Andrew

[@donmittlestaedt1117]

Very nice job Andrew. Thanks for the video.

[@learningturningmetal]

Thanks Don. All the best. Andrew

[@andrewdolinskiatcarpathian]

Perfect antidote to the current depressing world. Thank you and good luck.

[@bhein67]

This is on my "to-do" list. Looking forward to watching your progress Cheers from Canada

[@ianlainchbury]

Very good luck Andrew! What a cracking start to a new series :) Looking forward to following along.

[@learningturningmetal]

Thanks Ian. I think this one could be a real challenge! All the best. Andrew

[@steved8038]

Congratulations well worked out ! Looking forward to the next instalment best wishes.

[@learningturningmetal]

Thanks Steve! All the best. Andrew

[@Dominic.Minischetti]

Wow they came out awesome! This is going to be a great series! Thanks for sharing this my friend!

[@learningturningmetal]

Thanks Dominic. Fingers crossed! All the best. Andrew

[@alanremington8500]

Nice gears!!!

[@learningturningmetal]

Thanks Alan. I always find it really satisfying making good gears. Cheers Andrew

[@kgdietz]

Nice work! Just came across your channel and will be catching up on your progress.

[@learningturningmetal]

Thanks Ken - it's slowly making progress. Cheers Andrew

[@clivewood2148]

Looks like you've chosen a great project Andrew - will watch progress with interest🤓 regards

[@learningturningmetal]

Hi Clive - I hope I've not set the bar too high on this one - time will tell! Cheers Andrew

[@timjoinson7232]

Glad to see you making a start on your next project. It will inspire me to get on further with my beam engine. The gears came out really well. That last cut is the one that would bother me. Too big or too small because the spacing went wrong. Yours came out spot on. I must be getting nerdy because I found the maths very interesting. I need some gears for the governor on the beam engine, but they are bevel gears. A whole new level of complicated. I might just buy them in this time. I too have a desire to make gears and have the equipment needed. Just lack the time at present. The workshop looks a great place to get things done. Glad you found a parting tool that suits you. We may all soon find plenty of time to get on with engineering projects if we have to stay at home!

[@learningturningmetal]

Thanks Tim. I found the World of Ward rotary table controller made the whole process a lot easier. I hope you manage to make progress with your beam engine. Stay safe! Cheers Andrew

[@PALM311]

I get what you're saying by not wanting to spend big money if you're not sure what you're doing to begin with but I find that if there is a problem you can't always determine whether it's you or the product that you bought. Trust me when I tell you Andrew I know this first hand! LOL Looking forward to more videos ahead, I really enjoy your Channel!

[@Rudykanal]

Thanks for sharing the math on the gears! I have actually completed a Farm Boy my selves (#651). I must say I'm very pleased with everything about this engine. Good plans, good construction, good looks and runs well. And it is a lot of plain funn machining. You can look forward to many happy hours in your very nice shop! I made the gears with a self made cutter. Works ok, but makes some noise. I have bought 0.5 module cutters and will make new ones. I'm also a bit intimidated by the math and the terminology about gears. However, if you hav gone through it like in your video, it's doable. Tip: The most challenging about this build is maybe the collets holding the flywheels. At least if you want the flywheels to run true. I had to make them by boring the inside diameter and outside cone without taking the work out of the lathe. Reamed hole didn't run true. Start with a undersized hole and use a boring bar to sneak in to final dimension. Also have the compound unchanged between operations making the collets and making the cone in the flywheels. Also the valves is somewhat tricky. There are several videos out there on making valves. Good luck, and keep us posted with the build! Rudy

[@learningturningmetal]

Hi Rudy - many thanks for the advice. I've just viewed your Farm Boy video and I must say that you have done an absolutely fantastic job. A very nice finish and runs really well. I don't think my attempt will come close. I hope I've not set the bar too high on this one. All the best. Andrew

[@Machine_NZ]

Hi Andrew, This is going to be a really interesting build. Will be good to see compared to the **** David Kersel Hit & Miss Engine **** I'm currently building. I also have to make the gears for mine. The rotary controller is a neat tool to have in the shop. Looking forward to the next video. Regards Kevin

[@learningturningmetal]

Hi Kevin - yeah I'm definately following your Kersel build. I'm just trying to work out how best to approach machining part of the body at the moment. I hope I've not taken too much on - but time will tell. All the best. Andrew

[@cristobalphilippi8339]

Brilliant video! Just bought the plans (#871) and am wondering how to transform holes, screws, etc. To millimeters so I can use my set of tools. Thanks for sharing

[@learningturningmetal]

Thanks Cristobal - my plans were #800 so I think I might have influenced sales! Living in the UK, I thought about trying to convert to either metric or BA. I decided that it was better to stick with UNC, and I am glad I did because there isn't a large margin for error on some of the holes. Mind you I had to spend around £100 (UKP) on UNC taps and dies. Good luck with the build. Andrew

[@giorsg1267]

Hello, I think the best easy way for set the hight right in the middle of the blank is using gauge blocks, you need only to know the hight of the center of the rotary table and subtract the half of the cutter thickness. Good luck for the new engine.

[@learningturningmetal]

Hey - many thanks for the tip. Very much appreciated. Cheers! Andrew

[@adaml52]

Nice one Andrew, That book is well useful, once you get to understand it:) ATB Adam

[@learningturningmetal]

Thanks Adam - I've always fancied having a go at gear cutting and the book was a great help. Cheers Andrew

[@daveticehurst4191]

Well done Andrew. Cracking stepper motor controller any chance of some wiring diagrams and parts list. Stay safe from Dave in Australia.

[@learningturningmetal]

Hi Dave - just seen your other post - no worries. You stay safe too mate! All the best. Andrew

[@stevebosun7410]

Hi Andrew, inspiring. You have the knack of making me spend "more" money. Can you give us more info' on the engine itself please.

[@learningturningmetal]

Hi Steve - I have the same problem too! I hope that the next video in the series will be more informative regarding the engine. Rudy posted a video of a Farm Boy he made - please check it out at: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qai8oJRjp65-Y8k I doubt that mine will be as good. All the best. Andrew

[@bertyjustice4424]

I struggled to understand these formulas but after your videos and buying your recommended books I am getting close to grasping it. One thing i'm not sure of though is, they say you only need the set of eight cutters to cover every gear. Does this mean that a set of eight is needed for each diametric pitch i.e a set for 32 DP a set for 48 DP and so on. any help appreciated Andrew .

[@learningturningmetal]

Hi. Yes eight cutters for each diametric pitch or Mod. Page 65 of Ivan Law's book shows which number cutter cuts which range of teeth. You only need to buy the cutter(s) relating to the number of teeth you need to cut. For example if you want to make two 32DP gears, one with 13 teeth and one with 26 teeth, you will need 32DP cutter numbers 8 and 4. With cutters costing around £25 it can be quite expensive. For example 32DP cutters cannot cut 48DP gears. I have found Mod gears cutters are easier to source in the UK which is why I converted the Farm Boy to Mod 0.5. A word of warning, Mod gear cutter ranges are the reverse of DP. For example a Mod cutter number 1 will cut 12 to 13 teeth gears, not rack. Hope that helps. I find it really satisfying cutting gears that mesh well. Cheers Andrew

[@bertyjustice4424]

I can't thank you enough for your reply Andrew it is a great help. love all your videos, you skills never cease to amaze me.

[@bazxl57]

Hi Andrew, I purchased the 41/2" bandsaw from Warco a few months ago and I am completely happy with it, cuts nice & true straight out of the box and I am still on the same blade it came with. ( which one have you chosen). Nice set up you have there & a good job you made of those Gears. All the best Baz

[@learningturningmetal]

Thanks Baz. I received the bandsaw yesterday and I've just made a quick video. I am well impressed with the saw. I think it must be the same as the MachineMart one, which received a few negative comments about the thickness of the legs and the table. I don't think it's an issue. I purchased a Bi-Metal 24tpi blade as well, but just left the standard one on for now. All the best. Andrew

[@bazxl57]

Hi Andrew. Just watched your bandsaw video, that's the one I bought. I looked at the one from machine mart but the big difference I could see it has a 370 watt motor where the warco band saw has a 550 watt motor. I will eventually mount mine on a wooden frame make it a little higher as well. All the best Baz

[@modelsteamers671]

Nice to see you have started a new project Andrew, I'll be keen to see how it develops. I've never cut gears but from what I can see you made a good job of them. (Are you sure you weren't a maths teacher?)

[@learningturningmetal]

Ha ha Peter. Mind you I was only good at two subjects at school - maths and woodwork. Cheers Andrew

[@daveticehurst4191]

Sorry Andrew, after I posted my comment I found your making it video, with information on it. My original post did not show up straight away so I was unable to delete it. I do have a fresh question though. Is the motor strong enough to do rotary milling ? If not then it means you will have to uncouple the motor and refit the handle to do it manually, bit of a bind that.

[@learningturningmetal]

No worries Dave. I never thought about using the controller for rotary milling. I's very quick and easy to detatch it from the rotary table, but I might just give it a try sometime. All the best and stay safe! Andrew

[@jasonpitcher4774]

Andrew, great to see you back! How do you hold the gear blank on the mill? I see a shaft but not sure how the blank is mounted? Cheers, Jason

[@chrisstephens6673]

Challenges are good for you. When daunted by the complexity just think of one part at a time. Making the gears was a good idea for your education, and ego. although you could have bought them in 48 dp for about 30 quid plus vat and p&p from HPC Gears but where is the fun in that?

[@learningturningmetal]

Hi Chris - many thanks for the info on HPC - I need to remember that! It was certainly interesting trying to find an alternative and it helped me better understand some of the terminology and maths. Good fun too! All the best. Andrew

[@chrisstephens6673]

@@learningturningmetal you always learn quicker if you push what you think you can do to the limit and beyond. Keep doing the same old thing teaches nothing. The next thing to do might be to try making a gear tooth cutter.😉