#MT53 Bird Caging Tool
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@mpoortma
@mpoortma 3 күн бұрын
Hello Andrew, I have been watching your great video's because I encounter similar problems with my hobbing machine. Altough I think you nailed some issues (rigidity) I think there could be some other problems. I believe my hobbing machine suffers also from magnetic interference. I have seen extra pulses and a variabel rpm readings (+/- 5 rpm by 480 rpm's spindle setting) on the screen of the arduino (I saw it on your machine also). But not always! Of all the gears I made aprox. 10% where really perfect. The others suffers from the same problems you have/had. The perfect one's had a very stable rpm reading on the arduino screen. I tested if the rpm reading was influenced by wiring issues. With all the cables earth grounded, I still got the same results. I measured the signal of the ground cable with a scope and saw a little noise. It is not completely 0V. When I isolated the encoder by a plastic frame and disconnected all ground cables from the whole system I got different and better results. But still not good enough. When I take a ground wire and slide it along the metal of the mill (mill was not turning), there where some rpm reading on the arduino. The same happens when I carefully slide the housing of the encoder against the metal milling machine without turning the the shaft of the encoder. In both cases the hobbing machine starts moving a little. Finding this problem and solving it is my free time nightmare. I still have not solved it. Besides the above there is another problem with all stepper motors. When you try to move a stepper motor by hand (system powered up), there is some movement possible. The magnetic force in the unloaded situation is low. It grows when you try to turn the rotor. This is something we cannot change, but must be taken into account. It can results in perfect shapes of teeth, but with less wider teeth. This problem is offcourse not the same as synchronisation problems. So, now I am trying the closed loop steppermotor option hoping the result will get better. I hope to adress this problem because it is a very nice feature.
@tiddlerfromtad
@tiddlerfromtad 19 сағат бұрын
Wow, thanks for the comprehensive information. I found the project an interesting challenge but having realised the cost of hobs (even secondhand ones), I decided to stick with basic gear cutters. However, I'm sure this information will be of value to others. I hope you manage to nail it! Cheers Andrew
@iansmeath8674
@iansmeath8674 7 күн бұрын
Hello Andrew, many thanks for your great videos on this build. I am just staring this engine myself and the information you have provided will be extremely useful.
@learningturningmetal
@learningturningmetal 7 күн бұрын
Thanks Ian. I hope it turns out well. Cheers Andrew
@PatriciaSawyer-ot4us
@PatriciaSawyer-ot4us 9 күн бұрын
Hi Andrew. Are you ok? Are you still making videos?
@DiscusRussell
@DiscusRussell 11 күн бұрын
I have never used a lathe or milling machine but would love to make these parts for my engine. Any ideas on the bare minimum equipment to complete the task.
@learningturningmetal
@learningturningmetal 11 күн бұрын
I would recommend a mini lathe and a mini mill as a bare minimum. Cheers Andrew
@DiscusRussell
@DiscusRussell 10 күн бұрын
​@@learningturningmetalThanks will look into it👍 BTW my other v10 has reversing gear but the whole engine has no brass on the engine unlike most I have seen any ideas maybe a very old one ?
@edwardoutthere3189
@edwardoutthere3189 12 күн бұрын
Living in disposable society everything now like disposable razor
@ozyrob1
@ozyrob1 14 күн бұрын
I bought 2 Bernzomatic TS 8000 torches years ago. I bought 2 so I would have a backup. It's been used a decent amount and I've probably put through 2 mapp gas bottles and 4 coleman 1 lb bottles. It's never given one ounce of trouble and it's been a fantastic torch getting used regularly. I start my wood heater with it every morning in the cooler months. It's a brilliant tool and although its been completely reliable I'm glad to have a brand new one in reserve if it ever fails as I wouldn't like to be without one.
@philt214
@philt214 16 күн бұрын
Would you consider sharing your 3D image as a STL file? I am beginning to work on the Farmboy engine and I can see the value in having the model of the engine to work from. Thanks.
@learningturningmetal
@learningturningmetal 16 күн бұрын
Hi Phil I've put some links in the description, to enable you to download three stl files I created. From memory, I think I misread one of the dimensions for the rear frame, so it isn't perfect. Cheers Andrew
@VR6Joni
@VR6Joni Ай бұрын
I've just fallen into the same trap, bought the service kit expecting it would rectify the leak. It DIDN'T FIX IT, and to top it off, the new regulator valve seized solid after half a turn. I am only a light user and only went through 1 cylinder in about 5 years, I don't think I got my monies worth. :( I'm just going to buy a cheap Chinese one after this experience and ensure I take the cylinder off when not in use. I expect it will be rubbish but so was the Rothenberger one in my opinion!
@learningturningmetal
@learningturningmetal Ай бұрын
Yeah it's a strange one. Some people say they have used them every day for 15 years before a problem. Maybe manufacturing has moved on and quality control is none existent? Good luck with whatever you end up with. Cheers Andrew
@bertyjustice
@bertyjustice Ай бұрын
I watched both these builds Andrew, they both came out fantastic. I have both sets of plans, would you mind telling me, in your opinion which one is the easiest to build?
@learningturningmetal
@learningturningmetal Ай бұрын
Personally I would go with the JH FarmBoy. The machining of the body is a little more involved but the overall engine design is brilliant. I have found two weak spots on the odds n ends.... The head gasket is prone to blowing and the flywheels tend to come a little loose after a period of running. Good luck with whichever you decide to go with. Cheers Andrew
@bertyjustice
@bertyjustice Ай бұрын
@@learningturningmetal Thanks for the quick reply Andrew, advice noted. Mind you, with your skills you make everything look easy.
@madgardener5820
@madgardener5820 Ай бұрын
I've been trading as a plumber for 20 years and have two of these torches, one for twenty years and the other for about fifteen years. I've just start getting a leak on one of them so I would recommend them. Ive not yet heard anyone in the merchants saying negative things about their either. I think with all products and services there will always be the ones that don't turn out as hoped.
@garyseverson3094
@garyseverson3094 Ай бұрын
You didn't show it, so if you didn't do it, you should de-burr before checking the fit, otherwise you could accidentally make the recess oversize.
@Andy-x3e4z
@Andy-x3e4z Ай бұрын
Why did you feel the need to have the grub screw at an angle? Why do you make things complicated.?
@learningturningmetal
@learningturningmetal Ай бұрын
Probably because it was too difficult machining it at right angles.
@killbill3975
@killbill3975 2 ай бұрын
Had the same issue with mine. Worked well while used intensively but left it unused for a while and got this annoying problem. Gas escapes though the vent hole. Plugged the hole and worked well for a while but couldn't stop the leak completely so I had to remove the can every time when not used. There is no way you can disassemble it to replace stuff inside so bought another brand.
@Andy-x3e4z
@Andy-x3e4z 2 ай бұрын
Send that flywheel back and tell them not to mess you about.Stuarts are taking the piss lately and have sent me some unacceptable castings .I sent them a letter informing them I was a customer not a mug.
@sachinkapatkar
@sachinkapatkar 2 ай бұрын
My suggestion would be to provide ventilation to stepper driver if u have mounted in your custom 3d printer case since heatsink of driver may damage ur casing some other time. Since current[torque] depending upon the load u place on turn table. Thus current is drawn from driver. So decide accordingly & provide ventilation with the help of fan and ventilation holes on box. Use seperate power adapter for fan.Since it's emi may affect the microcontroller.
@rubenprovencio-b1u
@rubenprovencio-b1u 2 ай бұрын
Una pregunta Que hay que tener en cuenta para hacer un anillo de pistón que medidas hace falta saber
@learningturningmetal
@learningturningmetal 2 ай бұрын
Hola, hay más información sobre las medidas de los anillos de pistón en mi video de Jerry Howell sobre el motor bicilíndrico en V n.#MT49, parte 12. Espero que te sirva. Saludos. Andrew
@rubenprovencio-b1u
@rubenprovencio-b1u 2 ай бұрын
@@learningturningmetal si me vale perfectamente gracias Andrew
@beautgrainger147
@beautgrainger147 2 ай бұрын
Also a (south) Yorkshireman, have i got this right.. you're basically running Andy's setup but with 2 17bit rotary encoders and the numbers updated for the extra encoder positions?
@learningturningmetal
@learningturningmetal 2 ай бұрын
Hi The setup is very similar to Andy's with just one rotary encoder. I did write my own Arduino script. The download link is in Part 7 video description. It was an interesting project but, in reality, you need an extremely rigid setup to hog gears - just look at the size of some commercial machines. The other issue is that hobs are extremely expensive and secondhand ones are a big gamble. For home workshops I think individual gear cutters are the best option. Cheers Andrew
@beautgrainger147
@beautgrainger147 2 ай бұрын
@@learningturningmetal thank you, I've found your link, will re-watch 6 and 7 a few times to figure out what I'll need to do with a closed feedback stepper vs a servo motor. I'm not too worried about rigidity here but would like to able to job really small stuff without gears.
@richardspalding3622
@richardspalding3622 2 ай бұрын
Well done you it looks a lovely model
@learningturningmetal
@learningturningmetal 2 ай бұрын
Thanks Richard!
@cmguitar50
@cmguitar50 2 ай бұрын
Great videos- especially showing the oopsie's (we all do them, but don't confess to them) I see them as opportunities. The parallels!! I put a coil spring between them - it helps keep them vertical when putting the part in the vise, and I suppose a strong enough one would prevent the parallel from sliding.
@Andy-x3e4z
@Andy-x3e4z 3 ай бұрын
You are drilling a hole for Christ sake WHY ALL THE BLEEDING FUSS.
@Andy-x3e4z
@Andy-x3e4z 3 ай бұрын
Look at your flimsy setting up on your mill,and you are insisting on being ACCURATE,SO ANNOYING.
@learningturningmetal
@learningturningmetal 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the feedback Andy. All the best. Andrew
@SidewinderProjects
@SidewinderProjects 3 ай бұрын
Hi, I just watched the play list of this build and what a fantastic job you did. You overcame the problems along the way and we all learn from our mistakes which we all make. My old boss used to say " If you don't make mistakes you don't do any work" Well done on the build. Best regards..Terry..
@learningturningmetal
@learningturningmetal 3 ай бұрын
Thanks Terry I always appreciate positive feedback. Cheers Andrew
@jmans4928
@jmans4928 3 ай бұрын
They cheep out that part , the original design call for two have nuts , the mechanism has everything there but the other half nut.
@philiplawson-bk8ro
@philiplawson-bk8ro 3 ай бұрын
Hi which fuel do you use now
@learningturningmetal
@learningturningmetal 3 ай бұрын
Hi Philip I use Coleman fuel (aka naphtha) which is very compatible with viton (the o-ring material).
@philiplawson-bk8ro
@philiplawson-bk8ro 3 ай бұрын
Your ​engine looks great, I'm hoping mine looks and works a well a yours when it's finished. Just a bit unsure about the o ring on the piston not sealing properly
@learningturningmetal
@learningturningmetal 3 ай бұрын
Thanks Philip. If you stick to the drawing spec you should be fine 🤞
@be007
@be007 3 ай бұрын
gonna miss your video,s andrew ! hope you gonna make a comeback ? cheers ben
@learningturningmetal
@learningturningmetal 3 ай бұрын
Hi Ben unfortunately my availability for making engines has gone from bad to worse. My 98 year old mother-in-law recently fell and broke her hip. She's just had a hip replacement and it's now priority to get her chugging along again! No machining involved at the moment! Cheers for now. Andrew
@roncoath
@roncoath 3 ай бұрын
Thanks Andrew for you reply on the Ear method of piston ring make. I just found on Facebook
@piclife1178
@piclife1178 3 ай бұрын
Hi Andrew. Great video thank you. I am building a Farm boy and I am a bit confused. I assume the ring in the plans 1" OD x 0.094 is a R-14 13/16 x 3/32 ring. The OD of the o-ring is exactly the same size as the bore and the slot is oversize in both dimensions compare to the ring section. This seems to imply the ring will be very loose in the bore with no wall pressure at all. Have I missed something or is that how it is meant to be? Thanks.
@learningturningmetal
@learningturningmetal 3 ай бұрын
Hi. The o-ring should 'float' inside the groove. Some people think that the piston groove needs to pinch the o-ring in order to make the o-ring od fractionally larger than the id of the cylinder. Unfortunately this will cause increased friction between the o-ring and the cylinder which will result in the engine not freewheeling well between firing. It will also result in o-ring wear. I am no expert but as I understand it, the smaller od at the top of the piston allows air to pass by it. This, together with the larger groove, causes the o-ring to expand slightly and create a good seal. Jerry Howell was a great model engineer and if you stick to his dimensions you should end up with a really nice running engine. Hope that helps and good luck! Andrew
@piclife1178
@piclife1178 3 ай бұрын
@@learningturningmetal Thanks Andrew. Yes, I think the reduced piston diameter above the ring is the clue that there is a bit of a trick going on. I will probably go with exact to drawing if I can and see how it goes. Your engine really freewheels nicely and I can see that any significant friction would really mess that up.
@roncoath
@roncoath 4 ай бұрын
You made the comment the method was "Earl's USA" can you list that method, I can't find any reference to it. thank you.
@learningturningmetal
@learningturningmetal 4 ай бұрын
Hi Ron You asked me this question a few days ago in relation to my Odds n Ends engine. As as said previously, I made the Odds n Ends engine alongside Earl, who also made one in the USA. I refer to the 'Earl method' as Earl suggested his method to me via several emails to me. I don't have a consolidated description of his method. However, to the best of my knowledge, all the key aspects of the method are included in that video. It really is a straight forward process and I have now used it several times with total success. Each time, I refer to the Odds n Ends video to remind me of what I need to do.The method only takes a few hours to complete, so just give it a try. I have also seen you asking this question on a model engine forum. Nobody out there will be familiar with the 'Earl method'. Good luck. Andrew
@roncoath
@roncoath 4 ай бұрын
You mention the "Earl" method from USA for making piston rings, can you publish or tell me where to find it? Thanks. Ron
@learningturningmetal
@learningturningmetal 4 ай бұрын
Hi Ron I made this engine alongside Earl, who also made one in the USA. I refer to the 'Earl method' as Earl suggested his method to me via several emails to me. I don't have a consolidated description of his method. However, to the best of my knowledge, all the key aspects of the method are included in this video. It really is a straight forward process and I have now used it several times with total success. Each time, I refer to this video to remind me of what I need to do. Good luck. Andrew
@williamplatt9827
@williamplatt9827 4 ай бұрын
Just bought a B175 registered in Oct 1971.
@learningturningmetal
@learningturningmetal 4 ай бұрын
Brilliant. Unfortunately my plans to get for a full license didn't pan out. I did the CBT but I couldn't justify the costs to get a full license. I guess I will sell mine at some point in the future. Have fun!
@dikhed1639
@dikhed1639 4 ай бұрын
Why not build yourself a "stop" for your vise?
@StrawbyteWorkshop
@StrawbyteWorkshop 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video Andrew. My SC2 came with a read-out, but the lathe without - so I've been looking for a cheaper alternative to forking out between £120 and £140 for one. This was just the ticket and, like you, while I have a coding background it was great to find a good starting point, particularly decoding the data signal from the lathe. New subscriber. Karl.
@piclife1178
@piclife1178 5 ай бұрын
Great video Andrew, thank you. I just got some drawings for this engine. The outside edge of the tapper seems very, very close to breaking into the tapped holes, like 1 thou clearance if you hit the dimensions shown. I guess you just keep cutting the taper unit one cut before it looks like they will break through lol.
@learningturningmetal
@learningturningmetal 5 ай бұрын
Thanks mate! Yeah the clearance is just a couple of thou or so but it's not an issue. In fact the collet holding design for flywheels is the best I've come across so far. Of all the engines I've made I still regard the Farm Boy as the best design overall. Good luck with your build. Cheers Andrew
@grahamc887
@grahamc887 5 ай бұрын
Love your dog, can’t get over the hurt look as you got up and walked away from him. Great videos I have made a 10H and a 10V after being inspired by you.
@learningturningmetal
@learningturningmetal 5 ай бұрын
Ha ha the dog is still alive and kicking, me too! Glad some of my videos helped. Cheers Andrew
@grahamc887
@grahamc887 5 ай бұрын
@@learningturningmetal Our last dog looked very similar, we lost him three years ago. We now have a black dog, he is banned from the garage, I am frightened that he gets his tail wound around the lathe gearing.
@richardboucher6904
@richardboucher6904 5 ай бұрын
Hi Andrew, welcome back. I thought maybe you had taken the BSA Bantam for a whirlwind tour of the British Isles but the explanation of the DIY projects brought me back to reality. Dick B USA
@learningturningmetal
@learningturningmetal 5 ай бұрын
Hi Dick - now that would have been fun. Unfortunately too many demands on my time at the moment. The videos take up a lot of time and effort so I think I will have to stop doing build series after this one. Hopefully I will be able to post videos of any completed builds in the future. All the best. Andrew
@douglasbollinger8678
@douglasbollinger8678 5 ай бұрын
Great to see you doing some model engineering again Andrew!
@learningturningmetal
@learningturningmetal 5 ай бұрын
Thanks Douglas. To be honest I'm struggling getting back into the workshop due to other 'interests'. It also takes up a lot of time making the videos. I'm thinking that this will be my last video series of engine builds. All the best. Andrew
@douglasbollinger8678
@douglasbollinger8678 5 ай бұрын
@@learningturningmetal While I will miss your videos at the end of this series, I can totally understand. Building these engines takes awhile and it must be a ton more work and effort to capture and edit the video.
@learningturningmetal
@learningturningmetal 5 ай бұрын
​@@douglasbollinger8678hopefully some of my videos will have inspired others to get into this great hobby. All the best. Andrew
@timjoinson7232
@timjoinson7232 5 ай бұрын
Fascinating as ever. It is always interesting to hear you describe your thinking and workings to resolve problems. I admire your patience with those grooves. I think I might have gone with a rotary cutter of suitable diameter to cut the slots and radii. Good to see you back in the workshop.
@learningturningmetal
@learningturningmetal 5 ай бұрын
Thanks Tim. The radius of the grooves was way too small to allow me to use a slitting saw. I wish I could have got the drawings into Fusion 360 to enable me to CNC the heads, but that was way beyond me. A jack of all trades and a master of none! Cheers Andrew
@timjoinson7232
@timjoinson7232 5 ай бұрын
​@@learningturningmetal Slitting saws can be obtained or made in small diameters. Think of gear cutters or woodruff cutters for example. These days you seem to me to be a proficient in many aspects of machining.
@philiplawson-bk8ro
@philiplawson-bk8ro 5 ай бұрын
Hi what triggers the hall sensor, is it a magnet if so where is it located
@learningturningmetal
@learningturningmetal 5 ай бұрын
The magnet is on the inside of the cam gear.
@garybodnar1085
@garybodnar1085 5 ай бұрын
Great Job Andrew, Maybe a Dermal might help tidy the cooling fins up?? Good to see you back :)
@learningturningmetal
@learningturningmetal 5 ай бұрын
Thanks Gary. Now that seems like a great idea. I will have a ponder. Cheers Andrew
@OL6162.
@OL6162. 5 ай бұрын
Hi ANDREW why don't you use your cnc router to cut the cooling fins ? A rought cut with an endmill and a finishing pass with a ballnose cutter. It'd be interesting.. Make a try on a piece of wood first....😜😜 BFN OLIVIER
@learningturningmetal
@learningturningmetal 5 ай бұрын
Hi Olivier - that was my 'Plan B'. I spent hours trying to get the drawing into Fusion 360, but I just couldn't replicate the radius grooves. Maybe I should have spent more time trying to work it out. It would have certainly produced a far better result. Cheers Andrew
@nobbysworkshop
@nobbysworkshop 5 ай бұрын
We also use Flightradar24 great fun to track and identify planes over us in real time. That's a very detailed part Andrew. I can understand how long it took to machine. Always enjoy your detailed explanations. ATB Nobby
@learningturningmetal
@learningturningmetal 5 ай бұрын
Thanks Nobby - adsbexchange is also worth a look. The part needs a bit of a tidy up with some emery, but it should look okay. All the best. Andrew
@abbottart2000
@abbottart2000 5 ай бұрын
Hello Andrew, it's good to see you back. Sometimes we all need to take a break from a current project. You are correct thinking it would be better to wait to machine the valve seats until after the valve guides have been installed. Mr. Upshur designed a small tool to do this, and it is included with his plans for other engines. I made mine using .312 water hardened drill rod with a pin the exact diameter as the valve stems and it worked well. I think Mr. Britnell's design is similar. Good luck.
@learningturningmetal
@learningturningmetal 5 ай бұрын
Hi Earl - thanks for the info. I will do some futher research. To be honest I'm struggling getting back into the workshop due to other 'interests'. It also takes up a lot of time making the videos. I'm thinking that this will be my last video series of engine builds. All the best. Andrew
@PatriciaSawyer-ot4us
@PatriciaSawyer-ot4us 5 ай бұрын
Angle Plate, V-Blocks and a slitting saw. Definitely quicker, and better finish? Good to see you back.
@learningturningmetal
@learningturningmetal 5 ай бұрын
If only it was that simple. The radius of the grooves was very small and no way could I use a slitting saw. Cheers Andrew
@mervynprice7009
@mervynprice7009 5 ай бұрын
You can of course fit the Myford type vertical slide to your lathe. A look on the Warco website at say the WM 240B lathe will show you how they fit their version of it to that lathe with an adaptor plate. This sort of plate you will require because the Myford T slots run at right angles to your T slots. So you may need to draw up your own adaptor plate along those lines, unless Warco make one that fits? There are two versions of the Warco hold down plate, one with 55 x 100 hole centres & the other with 56.5 x 115 centres. Nice to see you back.
@learningturningmetal
@learningturningmetal 5 ай бұрын
Hi Mervyn - many thanks for the advice. I will investigate. Cheers Andrew
@RustyInventions-wz6ir
@RustyInventions-wz6ir 5 ай бұрын
Very nice work sir. You are setting high standards. I get your situation. I’m very much in the same. Juggling to keep videos coming as well as doing bits around the house. It’s hard to get to every thing. He he
@learningturningmetal
@learningturningmetal 5 ай бұрын
Thanks Rusty. To be honest I'm struggling getting back into the workshop due to other 'interests'. It also takes up a lot of time making the videos. I'm thinking that this will be my last video series of engine builds. All the best. Andrew
@philiplawson-bk8ro
@philiplawson-bk8ro 5 ай бұрын
Great engine build. Where did you put the magnet for the hall sensor
@learningturningmetal
@learningturningmetal 5 ай бұрын
Thanks Philip. The magnet is on the inside of the cam gear. I 3D printed a holder for the hall sensor and attached it to the body of the engine. Cheers Andrew
@philiplawson-bk8ro
@philiplawson-bk8ro 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for that. Do you have any pictures of it
@grntitan1
@grntitan1 5 ай бұрын
I use the Rcexl spark plugs as well as the Rcexl ignitions on my models. Never an issue.
@learningturningmetal
@learningturningmetal 5 ай бұрын
That's interesting. I've used Rcexl ignitions on engines with larger spark plugs. I didn't realise that they also sell ignitions with connectors for the miniature plugs. Cheers Andrew
@debeeriz
@debeeriz 5 ай бұрын
yiu will be having mi6 knocking on your door soon , wanting to know if you are a russian spy
@learningturningmetal
@learningturningmetal 5 ай бұрын
Ha ha - I hope not!
@richb419
@richb419 5 ай бұрын
Hi Andrew, nice to see you back! I think you may be able to make the cooling fins with a slitting saw. Rich
@learningturningmetal
@learningturningmetal 5 ай бұрын
Hi Rich - I could have, but I didn't have a slitting was to match the diamater of the 2.5mm two flute endmill. I resisted looking for one to buy! Cheers Andrew
@RB-yq7qv
@RB-yq7qv 5 ай бұрын
good to see your return
@learningturningmetal
@learningturningmetal 5 ай бұрын
Thanks mate!