MTG Top 10: Buyback | Magic: the Gathering | Episode 376

[@Based_Goddd]

Do I foresee a Top 10 top 10 video that featuring the top 10’s with the highest amount of points in competitive magic. Example: video a has 60 points total, while video b has 600 points total across all 10 cards

[@Tirvops]

Top ten rituals has Black Lotus, with more tha 1000 points if I can recall correctly

[@Blackvolttage]

So, top 10 lists with snapcaster in then?

[@jordancourtney9142]

Honestly I think buyback is one of those fair but perhaps forgettable mechanics that make me enjoy the older days of magic

[@Windowlick_]

You might think that until you play cube games against a control deck with Capsize that eternally bounces your lands, or a creature deck where they spit out a bazillion Sprout Swarm tokens. There's a good reason why Sprout Swarm wasn't reprinted in Time Spiral Remastered, it single handedly wrecked original Future Sight draft. Buyback as a mechanic is really poor because it causes really repetitive gameplay like those.

[@KPX01]

@@Windowlick_ i think it is sad that we need to ban everything based on a single format, if nothing else put it a non draft product i guess

[@akakscase]

You might not like my buyback deck (my friends call it my F-You deck because it is basically a total shutdown deck). Limitless fog, bounce, and counter spells. Swing… no damage. Tap to hurt me? Bounce it forever while it has summoning sickness. Direct damage spell? Countered. Life drain? Nope! You have to kill me in 3 turns or less or you risk being locked out of the game. Also: it wins by making you draw out your deck. It has Library of Leng in it so I can manage my hand and keep what I want while putting discards on the bottom of my library, meanwhile everyone is drawing between 2 and 10 cards a turn. It is basically designed to be a limitless draw deck.

[@Kiddragon6]

@@akakscase Library of Leng discards on the top of the library, not the bottom.

[@Ouja]

I abused the hell out of Elvish Fury in my Green Midrange Deck. And I always saved an Avoid Fate to deal with nasty Capsize players.

[@HienNguyenHMN]

"If you would like to buy (back) any of these cards..." well done, sir

[@jlwking1125]

Magic AND history? You just became my favorite KZbinr. My two favorite subjects

[@NizzahonMagic]

Glad to hear it!

[@alaraplatt8104]

ive never heard the term "softlock" used outside video games before but it is definitely very applicable to mtg

[@christophercombs7561]

I have heard it used in both games and mtg in mtg the "softlock" is often used in locking players out of aspects or phases of the game the "hardlock" lovks a player put of the game completely

[@avatar2xl]

Never played against 8 rack I guess

[@bluegum6438]

@@christophercombs7561 softlocking in video games usually means you can still play but can't progress in any meaningful way, like being locked in a single room

[@christophercombs7561]

@@bluegum6438 yup and in magic its means a partial lock on your opponent

[@stevenrhodes8338]

You go brainstorm lock in legacy you get no fetch you can’t shuffle away

[@gillablecam]

Honestly surprised Sprout Swarm doesn't have enough points to make the list. I guess what makes a card oppressive in draft doesn't necessarily translate to being good in constructed

[@NizzahonMagic]

I was a little surprised too since it is so insane in Limited, but yeah, 0 points.

[@nimrodkeren783]

1 w Angels Whispers Gain 5 life Buyback - pay 5 life

[@marcoottina654]

nice "buyback - Your opponents gain 5 life"

[@corey2232]

It's probably just nostalgia, but Tempest block (or Rath block I think it was called) artwork + old borders looks so damn cool to me. Seeing Whispers of the Muse & Corpse Dance just reminded me why this set got me into Magic as a kid!

[@henlohenlo689]

thats when i got into magic. i too was blown away by the art.

[@guylortie5238]

It feels so good to see Dr. Teeth in one of your videos. For those wondering Dr. Teeth is Psychatog, one of my all-time favorite cards from MTG. Thanks for the memories Dr. Nizz!

[@toastghost9145]

Could we see a Top 10 Core Set cards? As in, cards that received their first printing in a Core Set?

[@NizzahonMagic]

Already did it.

[@TheSquareOnes]

I'd like to see the alternate cost design space of this mechanic explored more, it could lead to a lot of cool cards that aren't just "pump more mana into thing to be better late in the game."

[@danielwappner1035]

"buyback - tap an untapped artifact you control" or "buyback - remove two loyalty counters from a planeswalker you control" perhaps?

[@ninjacom3]

There are cards that let you play them again from the graveyard over and over for life and creature sacrifice.

[@tehrulefoo]

I loved Tempest's set design. Buyback was amazing for control and Shadow was great for rush. Still one of my favorite sets.

[@TheGloriousLobsterEmperor]

I really like the buyback mechanic, mostly because I am a sucker for value. In fact, I've been paying 2U in order to buyback my "Top 10 Vintage Cards (Minus Power 9)" shill.

[@alaraplatt8104]

next time just let it go to the graveyard

[@TheGloriousLobsterEmperor]

@@alaraplatt8104 Ouch.

[@Crunchatize_Me_Senpai]

@@TheGloriousLobsterEmperor I, for one, welcome our new crustacean overlord.

[@techoutsider5631]

I must say, I am rooting for you by now

[@piemaster831]

Great cause, thank you for giving it the spotlight in your intro!

[@holotori_senior_admin_teno]

I really like buyback as a mechanic. A big expensive spell for little effect that you can cast every turn scratches the same itch for me as things with repeatable activated effects.

[@kylejoly577]

Last time I was this early, WOTC still playtested new cards.

[@mdover2948]

Hello there, 1994.

[@peepeemcgee97]

How do counter spells work with buyback? If they paid the buyback cost, do they still get the card back to hand, or is that countered as well?

[@NizzahonMagic]

The spell has to resolve, so if a card with buyback is countered, it doesn't get bought back.

[@peepeemcgee97]

@@NizzahonMagic That's what I was thinking, thanks for clarifying!

[@gwikeh]

Jon Finkel Top 8'ed 1998 US Nationals with Whispers of the Muse, Forbid and Capsize in a mono blue control deck ... does that not count as a Top 8?

[@matthewutech5970]

As stated at 1:51 , Nizzahon count top 8s of Pro Tours, Mythic Championships, Mythic Invitationals, Legacy & Vintage Championships, Grand Prixs, and Magicfest *only.* As such, not only are nationals not including, but 'lesser supported' constructed formats like Pauper and Penny Dreadful, as well as limited/sealed events, are also not counted; if they were, alot of past top ten list would probably be a bit different.

[@TheMajesticYak0]

I ran a blue control deck back in the 90s that used both Whispers of the Muse and Capsize. The win condition was actually just Mishra's Factory. It was nothing but counterspell and bounce effects plus Larry Niven's Disk to wipe the board while I built up my mana base enough to abuse Capsize and just bounce their entire board, especially their lands.

[@tonythepokemonguy751]

Surprised capsize was at 4, I would have thought top 2 somehow

[@magwaaf]

Whispers of the Muse was played in the world championship winning deck by Randy Buehler in 1998 I believe they even made promotional decks to sell to people.

[@javierpatag3609]

[@pablotorres7932]

I was searching and I couldn’t find a “top 10: minions” video. I understand the pool may be way to big or there may be other issues but I would really love to see super powerhouse top 10s like that or “instants and sorceries” or whatever. Anyways thank you Nizzahon for all you do, big fan!!!

[@NizzahonMagic]

Minions would not be a powerhouse list. There are 42 total haha. And, I have done top 10s on every card type, including sorceries and instants!

[@alaraplatt8104]

ohh i think you mean top 10 creatures! "minions" is hearthstone

[@netzach13]

I'm surprised capsize didn't rank higher. Capsize, Awakening, and Tradewind Rider were an almost unstoppable force. One of my favourite decks from back then.

[@kingdjoser]

My favorite buyback spell is Wurmcalling. I play it is a casual 8-post deck as my finisher.

[@DeviousPie2]

I definitely was NOT expecting to see that card as number one. I would like to see Buyback make a comeback in a Standard set!

[@Twinsidedsoldier]

Evangelize is pretty awesome and flavorful effect for White. I gotta get myself one.

[@kmaru80]

Whispers would be SSEVEN mana for for draw 2 since you have to cast it again to get the second card

[@NizzahonMagic]

I was counting Whispers returning to your hand as "drawing a card."

[@claycook-mowery1416]

Maybe this list was already done, but I'd like to see a list of Top 10 in X format, using only points in that format. Extended, old Type 1 / Type 2, etc. Standard not so much, it'd be "what has been reprinted the most times" but the others would be fun.

[@kingginger3335]

Constant Mists is a fantastic addition to my Windgrace lands deck. Sure it's edh but it's basically a free fog once I get it hand since I can drop like 5 or more lands to the field during each turn

[@wehpudicabok6598]

Really thought Sprout Swarm would make this list.

[@Ridelith]

I thought Reiterate would at least be in the top 10, then I remembered it's only really a good combo piece in commander because of mana geyser and jeskas will in multiplayer...

[@destructimus]

I still main deck like, 3 of these cards. You can really lock people down with flowstone flood, capsize, or forbid. Unearth is another decent card that can bring creatures back to your hand from the graveyard.

[@mdover2948]

wtf was going on with that original masticore art? lol

[@akakscase]

One of my favorite combos: capsize, cornucopia with at least 3 counters on it, any number of mana rocks and paradox engine. Bounce their whole board back to their hand in one turn and still be able to cast other spells from mine.

[@danielkoblos4950]

Okay guys can you clear me up with this (because dont really get by Nizzahon wording) so you use the original cost it goes to exile then on the same turn you can pay again for the buyback cost? Can you play a later turn or you have to do it in same turn? Is it stay forever in exile for the recast? Its kinda confusing ngl.

[@robman102]

If you pay the normal cost of a buyback card it just goes to the graveyard. You have to pay the additional buyback cost as the spell resolves and you can't pay that cost later compared to say dredge where whenever you draw you can choose to dredge instead. Buyback cards don't exile they just go to the graveyard ( unless the cards says otherwise).

[@danielkoblos4950]

@@robman102 thanks!

[@Da40kOrks]

I loved playing capsize-stasis.

[@kingginger3335]

Surprised Reiterate didn't make the list

[@julianlaywine7453]

There is some really excellent art on this list!

[@johngleeman8347]

A control deck's dream. I wish buyback was an evergreen mechanic.

[@OrbGoblin]

Hope they bring this mechanic back at some point.

[@NDHFilms]

No jokes this time, just really like your videos.

[@mikotagayuna8494]

Buyback = When you quit competitive Magic and sell your cards only to get sucked into Commander and realize that you need to have the old cards again.

[@Bulhakas]

These videos are much nicer with adblockers.

[@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299]

I do horrible things with Constant mists in my landcentric Korvold deck. My first precon was called Dominator from Exodus it had Forbid and Capsize in it, mmm good memories LOL :p

[@PokeBattlerJaze]

Spell Burst? Edit: Ahhh, I was close, I guess I’m just bias because I have a friend who plays a lot of blue commander decks and always seems to have that at the ready

[@YatzeeWillWearAGreenHat]

I'd like to see a video on top 10 common creatures.

[@alyssinwilliams4570]

Capsize!! I loved Capsize

[@HadiganMadder]

im shocked sprout swarm didnt make that list

[@aztecaXV]

Nizzahon starting the video off like a boss. Thank you

[@erlanddrow7950]

I'm surprised Mind Peel didn't make the list. 4 Mana (or maybe it's 5 Mana) to make your opponent discard a card isn't much but doing it often can make them have basically no cards

[@sephyrias883]

I'm surprised Capsize isn't number 1.

[@pauljimerson8218]

First one I thought of as well

[@brandonfearer4421]

Good on you for the support for inclusion and acceptance. I love your channels

[@andrewbolten2988]

Thks content is a fun dive into the history of the game.

[@aerienix]

Non-mana buyback costs should help balance things more

[@Lomiauz]

Love your t-shirt!

[@kingginger3335]

Ricky Bobby: I'm not sure what to so with my hands. Lol

[@llongone2]

Man, I really hated playing against Capsize (back in the day). Still hate that card.

[@curiouscornucopia8957]

I was thinking about how much i liked that shirt and then you told me how to get one.

[@NizzahonMagic]

Happy to help!

[@Vario69]

9:25 *Seinfeld song starts playing*

[@magiccardmaster9921]

Ah another good and fair mechanic

[@henlohenlo689]

my top 4 is. fanning the flames. shattering pulse capsize evangalize i cant believe fanning the flames was not even on the list. to me its one of the best x cost burn spells outside of fireball. if already are playing a deck that gets alot of mana or amplifies damage then the buy back on fanning the flames is null. it is a win condition card easily.

[@TheMajesticYak0]

Top 10 for all Keywords! I can't wait to see the list for Banding! Go Mishra's War Machine! I know you show up on every worst list ever but this will finally be your turn to shine!

[@Ouja]

Could never afford a Corpse Dance. I have several Bone Harvests, though.

[@T4N7]

Lucky number 7 👍 here to say thank u Nizzahone n WOTC for putting money toward a good cause. Wish I wasn't so broke so I could buy that shirt. Bisexual trans here, happy pride everyone

[@SisypheanSeas13]

I'd like to buyback my tacos. Sorry, wrong channel.

[@RisottoNero-z1w]

Cool shirt c:

[@domri4203]

I don't know how whispers only has 2 top8s

[@crooker23]

that shirt is sick

[@StarlitWitchy]

Ahhhh trans pride shirt!!!

[@ehk5948]

Buyback is pretty interesting

[@ianlawrence8343]

Awesome shirt!

[@hetstandaardkanaal7167]

Love worthy cause in my flashback commander deck

[@schylerreis5227]

Way to rock the pride shirt!

[@TheyCallHimPogo]

Love the shirt!!

[@brianwalters8641]

It's all so expensive!

[@lordofmorgul]

Are these t-shirts available in China, and why not?

[@shyumby]

so you get a cool shirt and help oppression around the world

[@Superstition1980]

Love that shirt

[@taylorholdgraf3596]

If you want to buy...back Lmao

[@hggfhh4449]

Does the money go to lgbtq+abczx people in places that actually need it like Russia Islamic countries or is it just a waste and young people in America?

[@VivaTorf]

Nice video. Not buying the tshirt though.

[@NizzahonMagic]

Is there a reason you feel the need to tell me about the shirt?

[@VivaTorf]

@@NizzahonMagic free speech maybe?

[@Yehred]

I've been watching your videos for a couple years. You just lost a subscriber.

[@NizzahonMagic]

Hate Buyback that much, huh?

[@orovilleredinbacker1810]

He is mad about Lambert house charity. I will still support the channel Nizzahon. Supporting the LGBTQ movement is a good thing in most cases. But when kids get thrown into the mix it affects people differently.

[@NizzahonMagic]

@Oroville Redinbacker I knew what he was talking about, don't worry. Not sure what is controversial about helping marginalized children in need, but whatevs.

[@alaraplatt8104]

@@orovilleredinbacker1810 merely acknowledging the fact that LGBTQ children exist and need help is enough to offend you? that's pretty pathetic

[@orovilleredinbacker1810]

@@alaraplatt8104 I'm not offended at all. But I am intelligent enough to see it from both sides. Two big groups of people see the world in total opposite perspectives. In the end only time will tell who is right. Might be good to question your own beliefs once in a while.

[@corradoalamanni179]

Pride month! Now with half the flag!

[@alaraplatt8104]

wdym? i see all 6 colors of the traditional pride flag plus even more

[@corradoalamanni179]

@@alaraplatt8104 yes but with half the space because og the new ones that if understood correctly are about race