Somewhere Between CEDH and Jank | Commander Clash S16 E3

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[@MTGGoldfishCommander]

We're doing a viewer submitted Commander Clash soon! If you want a chance for your deck to show up on Commander Clash, head over to the community tab and drop your decklist in the post.

[@VRanger100]

Here's my Tainted Remedy deck I dub "Public Death Care" www.moxfield.com/decks/-bhdv4jlD0io5-8MgVoSlw

[@adamhenwood1114]

Stats episode!!!

[@andrewpierce7782]

Cool. Return to MTGO and stop doing this in paper.

[@jackl8025]

@@andrewpierce7782 guessing they won't be switching in the middle of a season but keep fighting the good fight

[@Lucarioguild7]

Are you guys gonna do the end of season stats episode?

[@RCrowlzor]

I love how Richard casts can't wake up....and seth and Crim immediately can't resist humming/singing the rest of the song😂😂😂😂

[@jonwee6632]

Ayo captain who?

[@burnsboy101]

I thought I heard that 😂

[@codypickell7]

Beat me to it

[@tristonshelley96]

looked like phil caught it too

[@gmpd4191]

Hey guys. Are we going to get a stats episode for last season? Those are my favorite episodes the whole season.

[@zacharyenglish2904]

Yeeees- stats, I hadn’t even thought about that

[@gillgaladii8673]

I second this. The stats episodes are always fun. I wonder how much green crim played this past season.

[@CreateWorlds]

Yes please

[@Nathanael_Forlorn]

They are currently reconsidering the format. The continuation is in doubt, and it might be altered or canceled. Viewership is considerably down from regular episodes, so reasonable question. At least that what I've gathered from a comment below an earlier episode this season. Some love it and will miss it, if it ends up discontinued. But I guess if the numbers show a lack of interest, it's not feasible.

[@OhSarcasticOne]

I think they're going to do it as a podcast episode instead

[@Sinistra359]

I really like the camera angle on your portraits. It really makes it seem like you guys are playing at the table despite being countries apart lol. Keep it up guys!

[@erikbraun473]

Crim going say it with me and Seth saying clash on is the most meta joke ever and i love it

[@eliholland6801]

Captain WHAT!!!!!

[@_claymore]

I heard that too.. 🤨😅

[@BasedChe]

This is why I say nuh gath rod to be safe

[@gsmastermike]

I was like AYO and then I saw Phil's face 😂

[@Kryptnyt]

his name is Captain Demonitization

[@pacethomson8807]

I came to the comments with this exact thought in mind, I’m glad someone else did too lol

[@adamhenwood1114]

Seth coming in thinking it was Crim week with that deck 🤣

[@bigtonka34]

Great job Seth. Somehow you weren’t targeted after playing a second commander. Hey Crim. You did nothing wrong and were still targeted. That’s the sign of a great mtg player.

[@RyanOlander]

Props to Phil for making the most American of puns his deck building inspiration!

[@DaxRaider]

imagine how much more success the d&d set would have been if it would have come same time as teh bg3 launch xD

[@MTGGoldfishCommander]

Seriously. Big missed opportunity.

[@donb7519]

I believe it was supposed to line up better but then the game got delayed. Also dont forget releasing it 1 month before the masters set

[@ethanbrownell4247]

The set is also so much better than it has gotten credit for - especially in limited.

[@RyanEglitis]

Politicking a Coat of Arms, that's a new one 😂

[@seanfallon2271]

Loving the paper content guys! Getting all the players board vs primarily just one players is really nice. Also, Confounding Conundrum drew waaaay more hate than it deserved. It doesn't "shut off" anything as kept being said, it just turns land ramp into land tutors to hand. It's certainly no Opposition Agent or anything.

[@Thecalebpoe]

Never mess with the ramp players ramp. This is how it ends.

[@SupernaturalSpectrum]

Seth brutally beating down the table with a sword of feast and famine/expropriate just made my week. PS, I feel like I need to see Crim win some games, stop hating him off the table every week 😅 Thanks for the content guys!

[@Brodysseous]

Taking Richard's Boompile because 60% of the time it works every time

[@Shimatzu95]

what are you even talking about? When was the last time it did NOT work for him?

[@MakeVarahHappen]

I would watch the hell out of a commander series that's just cEDH players trying to break randomly assigned commanders with under a thousand decks.

[@ImJustHereToWatch14]

The "best" deck would probably often end up being a stock list for the colour combo. E.g. a Dakkon Blackblade deck wouldn't be about lands or voltron; it'd be a Demonic Consultation into Thassa's Oracle combo with a ton of tutors

[@MakeVarahHappen]

@@ImJustHereToWatch14 I mean that's real, but there are commanders that you can leverage in interesting ways if you know your pod isn't going to crush you into the ground with their commander. I'm not expecting lands or Voltron Dakkon, but there's a middle ground where commanders are powerful but not overplayed.

[@DabbleDo]

When a new set comes out Play to Win does this with new commanders from it, looks like it would be fun to do. I personally wish they’d ban Partner commanders, gets boring seeing them every cEDH game

[@calebanderson6193]

Hey Crew loving the paper games this season! However I wish you guys would do more niche themes that take advantage of the fact that you’re no longer using MTGO. For instance everyone makes a non-legendary creature their commander, silver-border week (silver border cards are legal), No ban list week, Planeswalker week , etc

[@noah2508]

lots of UB stuff that they can do now too!

[@Spotifist]

This is already possible on MTGO through Freeform commander, I think they have already tried it. But I agree, would be cool to see more unorthodox commander games!

[@discoviolenza1984]

They really did Shadowheart dirty with her bad Baldur's Gate card arts

[@dariengoheen747]

Because the art director for the set hates women

[@DiscardatRandom]

@@dariengoheen747who’s the art director?

[@dariengoheen747]

@@DiscardatRandom justice geddes

[@VivBrodock]

@@DiscardatRandom justice geddes, he has openly expressed transphobia, mysogeny, homophobia, and racism. He's also voiced support for Halord McNeill (you know the guy who drew racist cards).

[@DiscardatRandom]

@@VivBrodock thanks for telling me

[@Wolfntee]

I'm really digging the paper format and editing style. I know you guys complain about not being able to get all the new cards on MOTO, and it's always interesting to see what you guys are cooking up in paper.

[@Princeofseance]

No MTGO fails these past few episodes

[@Nathanael_Forlorn]

I loved Phil and seths decks this week! Didn't quite see enough of crims and Richards to understand them.

[@CyberNewType]

Once again, great job guys. Still loving the new live format. As long as you guys can get the cards you need to keep it quirky, this seems great.

[@lucaslopera8983]

codfather hit us with the 16:11 during bhm

[@kurowasanabe]

I'm convinced that Phil picks his deck based on the shirt he pulled out of the closet that day. Also Confounding Conundrum is cool, but it ironically helps Landfall decks.

[@singularleaf3895]

Are you sure he doesnt just buy a shirt to match the deck he has?

[@alaraplatt8104]

he gets his deck ideas from the t shirt shop

[@Kryptnyt]

You think Conundrum helps landfall decks right up until the Copy Enchantment comes out.

[@Palasdin]

Tomer coming out with one of the best opening statements about his deck all campaign.

[@yggdr9sil]

Seth popping off with decision-monicon.

[@joshmartinez4175]

I'm really digging this live stuff!! Clash on!!!

[@Chuubii]

16:12 who gave Richard the pass?

[@pilcrowe]

Since you film your episodes with the top camera view I'm actually excited for new episodes and you climed up to one of my fav. edh game formats. Thank you for that :)

[@jakek3754]

The Crim hate is rough, and just because of the Conundrum? C'mon guys, every week hating out Crim first gets old. On top of that, he comes to the table with the best attitude each week, imo. I'm not sure I could do the same being the first one out every time.

[@uandubh5087]

Awesome to see you play paper magic! And great game, Seth living the dream with the Valeyard.

[@aelinrivera1660]

I really love the paper cards with the overhead angle! Also the episodes are much more watchable and flow better! Love you all so much❤

[@kamomo9147]

Loving the "live" play, so much fun 🥰

[@Fromaginator]

Shouts out to Crim for the descendents shirt!!! Milo is back on the menu

[@Laevus2321]

The switch to paper makes the banter better in my opinion. Keep up the fun!

[@Belena711]

Killing Crim first because he played a confounding conundrum doesn't make a ton of sense. . . If it's like late in the game, and he'd die quick, it makes sense, but it's not like you get the conundrum removed in time for you to ramp. Which makes it feel kind of vindictive.

[@Andrewlstewart]

It's why it's a bad card, draws a ton of aggro for a mediocre effect.

[@Belena711]

@@Andrewlstewart I've played it a bunch of times, without it drawing a ton of aggro. . . It's not like confounding conundrum makes someone a threat... And killing someone first who isn't a threat is poor threat assessment. Which isn't the card's fault.

[@moshjoshpitchief4418]

aside from getting crim beat up for no reason, confounding conundrum was solid even in a non green meta. glad to see the inclusion. get em crim.

[@jackl8025]

Phil's thematic tshirts >>>>>

[@RyanEglitis]

Turns out the only thing worse than losing to four extra turns in a row is being forced to read more Dr. Who cards during those turns

[@austinlange1410]

I am loving the paper magic over mtgo! The production and editing is great btw!

[@Snargglecraft]

Great episode! This one was a lot of fun. I’m still n out a huge fan of the paper magic format, but the editing has improved a lot over the last couple episodes.

[@nicklee3917]

Wow, Seth absolutely lived the dream there

[@DerringerHK]

Loving the paper format for this season guys! :)

[@Spirited_skiing]

I love how much shorter these got, while still packing in all the fun and action!

[@Rice_Spicee]

Looks like Phil caught the interesting N'ghathrod pronunciation eh? 16:10

[@STS-qi1qy]

Once again expressing my love of paper over MTGO. So much of those games seem to be just waiting for the engine to catch up. Plus it's great to have a full proper view of all boards.

[@Nicola396]

Phill with the bear shirt; SWEET

[@peterhardiman7333]

You guys could have a week where you all bring a house rule 😂

[@Ricardo-zo1ti]

Love the editing

[@metatron8578]

At around 25 minute, Coat of Arms gives creatures +1/+1 for each other creature of the same type, weren't there your four Merfolk, each gaining +3/+3 and not +4/+4?

[@gaero7665]

Phil actually playing the casual powerhouse bear

[@hugokral912]

i love that u moved from mtgo for this season it looks so much better in my opinion. also the editing is great 👍

[@airhedge]

I wasn’t sure about leaving mtgo but I’m really loving the new set up. A+ content

[@OGSilentMan]

Im so glad Seth is playing Valeyard, I've been struggling trying to make a deck with him

[@JoshRudis]

On this week of "Punt or Bluff?" Seth has been distilled and injected into us. Will Phil get *even more value* from a few bears or will Crim shapeshift into The Professor? Tune-in to find out!

[@no1hansolo]

13:03 you can always trust a dishonest man to be dishonest.

[@xxmerkutioxx]

Sweet deck Seth

[@Botanick13]

How expensive would be cameras and lights that would make the cards bit more readable? I am genuinely asking because for example on Seths board everything is so badly visible

[@countjondi9672]

Richard is a man of refined taste.

[@dee-wreck]

Surprising that the games are literally 30-60 minutes faster when not playing on MTGO

[@gillgaladii8673]

Still loving the live play! Every Friday, this is my must watch vid.

[@kaijukraken]

Glad that Sir Crimothy was the threat, imagine if he wasn't

[@L4TMTG]

Holy crap i told crim to run confounding conumdrum and its his first spell of the game!!!! Misery baby!!!

[@BrianShaw06]

I love the change to Spelltable. It's probably more work on your end, but the games are so much easier and more enjoyable to watch :)

[@lobbynotlob]

Confounding Conundrum lets goooooo!!!! We gotta see Psychic Surgery in there too!!!!!

[@jirasekr]

I love that some of also plays OP ❤

[@matthugenberg8869]

Hey, is the viewer submitted decks video going to be in paper or on mtgo? It matters for which deck i want to submit

[@singularleaf3895]

I think, I remember, they said they are going to be all physical except for certain matches. Such as Chaos week. I wouldn't be surprised if Viewer decks also get played on MTGO just to make it easiest on everyone.

[@matthugenberg8869]

@@singularleaf3895 exactly why I want to know. I'm not going to submit a deck they can't play if they are doing it on mtgo

[@L4TMTG]

Richard shoehorns a one piece reference each episode…..and im totally here for it! 😂

[@skykur]

Crim is lookin Lit! He’s his own worst enemy🎵

[@johnrogers1752]

Great to see The Doctor win a game of Commander.

[@troyleven8875]

Is paper the new regular medium for you guys?? Or is this temporary?

[@MrDesoron]

Believe it is for the season

[@bubba5656565]

Do y'all have all the cards for a dozen decks across the season or order them a week in advance or what? Curious about the logistics for doing a new deck each week.

[@ConManAU]

I strongly suspect they make generous use of card rental services. And maybe a few proxies here and there.

[@richardthomas7925]

Love see you guys play in paper.

[@rylanleung7524]

Funny expropriate story I was playing a game when a player cast expropriate and when I asked what it did the person who played it read it and then said they were voting for time and I tried to respond but they said since they had already voted I couldn’t respond which for some reason the rest of the table agreed with however on their extra turn they tried to cast another extra turn spell which I stole with sudden substitution and killed them on my extra turn

[@Daxelman]

Anyone know what they're using for overhead cameras?

[@jamespowelljr4636]

Richard always hit em with. "Yeaa we are friends right ?" Lmao 😂 with a 7/7 trampler.

[@thatepicwizardguy]

dude... seth's deck is REALLY sweet. I really liked everybodys deck tbh! very fun game

[@AWESMATHEGREAT]

16:12 uh oh, Richard said it

[@nathanpalmiter3260]

I like this format way better. I feel like the games go faster now.

[@elementalheroshadowX]

soon as i saw what seth was running i was rooting for him and that last turn.. wow. need to make this for myself. which is nice that the only card in seth's list i don't own over $10 is black market connections and it doesn't feel necessary.

[@kyletaylor4818]

I enjoy the paper magic so much more. I know its probably much harder to do! But I really do love seeing the cards being played!

[@NamelessFacelessWhoa]

16:11 RICHARD NOOOOOO

[@alexroel123]

Sad that you didnt do wilson + flaming fist and go full voltron, its a crazy combo that ends games FAST

[@thomaswilburne9756]

I will admit, the spelltable set up is growing on me. The game is more understandable despite not being able to see the boardstate very well.

[@gator-li1ls]

what is the figure behind Richard in the table?

[@MegaSascuach]

The spit take when Richard played nghathrod

[@mosesmckinney1373]

Don’t worry crim next week confounding conundrum will be incredible.

[@wesserl131]

not seth worrying about milling out with a stolen lab man on board

[@williambowen8054]

I'm here to defend Seth playing a voting card in his vote deck, regardless of what it does. Theme!

[@baragon023]

Relate so much to phil. Regardless of my board state, im always looked at.

[@jackl8025]

Merfolk's back on the menu.

[@Delgotto]

I really enjoy these physical episodes! Guessing it may have to do with Ultimate Guard promotion, but hope it continues! Much more fun to watch than MTGO! Also...how do people like Ultimate Guard? Sleeves and matts? Interested.

[@Niuttuc]

I'll preamble with the disclaimer that we're sponsored by them, because that might inform things. Their Katana line of sleeves are some of the best I've played with, and they're the ones that feel best to shuffle of any sleeves I've used so far, they're really smooth without being slippery (after the initial few shuffles)

[@bondeulv]

I'll preface this by saying I'm not sponsored (and that I'm presuming you didn't ask specifically just the MTGGoldfish crew). I think the Katanas have an excellent shuffle feel, and I really like their deck boxes (Boulders, Flip n Tray, Sidewinder) and binders I've bought over the years. Dragon Shield Art Mattes are still the superior sleeves for me though.

[@danielnappi3772]

16:10 capitain what?

[@professortusk]

16:10 Captain WHAT

[@MonsterCC]

CANT WAKE UP!

[@rees1058]

I really like the new format, versus playing through MtGO.

[@av110386]

BEST CREW!

[@Nathanael_Forlorn]

Crim missing landdrops on MTGO, Arena and in paper must be a literal curse at this point. It's ridiculous.

[@Bluejayount1]

The best part of spelltable is crims tats

[@cinco_de_la_tarde]

Fun game. Sometimes a reminder that stuff like Expropriate is dumb and unfun is a good thing so maybe fewer people play it or house ban it