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We Play MORE Duskmourn | Commander Clash S17 E7

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MTGGoldfish Commander

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@MTGGoldfishCommander
@MTGGoldfishCommander 3 ай бұрын
We need Viewer Decks! KZbin is randomly deleting links, so you'll need to post them in the comment section of the article on our site: www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/we-play-more-duskmourn-commander-clash-s17-e7
@tk421eatmyshorts
@tk421eatmyshorts 3 ай бұрын
What re the approved websites for links?
@TerminallyNerdy
@TerminallyNerdy 3 ай бұрын
done and done. Altho mine are all "budget" style so I am sure you could tweak em if you wanted lol
@StrangesouthFL
@StrangesouthFL 3 ай бұрын
Watching Richard gaslight the table into thinking Crim was the biggest threat once again is why I come here every week.
@Dragon_Fyre
@Dragon_Fyre 3 ай бұрын
If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. 😊
@StrangesouthFL
@StrangesouthFL 3 ай бұрын
@@Dragon_Fyre it’s great. Definitely don’t wanna change it 😎
@light-chemistry
@light-chemistry 3 ай бұрын
I mean, (spoiler) he died first so maybe he was right this time. Grievous Wound is a pretty scary card 😅
@imaginarymatter
@imaginarymatter 3 ай бұрын
Crew: "Richard can't keep getting away with this." Narrator: "Richard gets away with it."
@RisingAboveThis
@RisingAboveThis 3 ай бұрын
To be fair, Crim likes to do Crim stuff. 😂
@gamerp1g
@gamerp1g 3 ай бұрын
Crim: *breaths* Seth: STAX
@nathanielmaloco8227
@nathanielmaloco8227 3 ай бұрын
The Jwari Disruption coming in from the top ropes was crazy lol
@emanuelbutler2315
@emanuelbutler2315 3 ай бұрын
Seth and Phil being more triggered by a Roiling Vortex while staring down a 15/15 trampler is wild 😂
@peterhardiman7333
@peterhardiman7333 3 ай бұрын
The richard effect was powerful here
@ajbateup5101
@ajbateup5101 3 ай бұрын
Yeah unfortunately I don't watch these guys cause their good at magic
@cockman8437
@cockman8437 3 ай бұрын
But crim's stax pieces
@abeybaebe2514
@abeybaebe2514 3 ай бұрын
It dies to farewell
@emanuelbutler2315
@emanuelbutler2315 3 ай бұрын
@@abeybaebe2514everything does to Farewell. So you should just not play magic because it dies to farewell.
@KVGKQuake
@KVGKQuake 3 ай бұрын
Actually insane that incremental pinging is seen as scarier than free green things every single turn in a play group that has proven to run very little targeted removal, as a whole
@BaconBitZ2007
@BaconBitZ2007 3 ай бұрын
Such is the fate of group slug players lol my group slug deck is my favorite deck and i almost always get hard targeted the whole game lol
@jcstaff1007
@jcstaff1007 3 ай бұрын
10:37 this represents every group slug and green deck at tables. Group slug gets hated out just for existing and green decks get to do whatever they want because “that’s what green does” mentality.
@BlindTheRhino
@BlindTheRhino 3 ай бұрын
Green does what it wants bc the hope is that a timely counterspell/fog stops them dead. You never seem to have it up at the critical moment tho haha
@brningpyre
@brningpyre 3 ай бұрын
Seth: "Niko, niko." Oh Seth. I was expecting Crim to interject with "Nico nico niii~"
@lesternomo6578
@lesternomo6578 3 ай бұрын
I love that Seth clearly picked up the nico nico thing from somewhere on the internet but clearly has no idea where from lmaoo
@professortusk
@professortusk 3 ай бұрын
@@lesternomo6578 I think he was copying Crim's "miku miku" mayhaps
@Nathanael_Forlorn
@Nathanael_Forlorn 3 ай бұрын
Niko it's your cousin! Why don't you take me bowling? ~
@JonReid01
@JonReid01 3 ай бұрын
​@@professortuskI thought this too😊
@Lorrdernie
@Lorrdernie 3 ай бұрын
Phil's Ugin drawing is so cute
@jvt3888
@jvt3888 3 ай бұрын
Phil’s art game always impresses me
@ivan-ky9mk
@ivan-ky9mk 3 ай бұрын
We really need some mtg cards with Phil's art on them. Like that Ugin in the background
@bmist666
@bmist666 3 ай бұрын
Some in this game obviously haven't seen Profs video on threat assessment.
@DieJG
@DieJG 3 ай бұрын
I would have loved a second game. Crim finally being able to follow his thought against Richard was awesome.
@WiLDRAGE777
@WiLDRAGE777 3 ай бұрын
Time to play the game of "Guess how long before Seth says Crim is playing stax" . Edit: Apparently under 2 minutes.
@tgumina
@tgumina 3 ай бұрын
Pretty sure Seth thinks stax means any card that my opponent plays.
@mindhackz
@mindhackz 3 ай бұрын
@@tguminaHe thinks it’s any triggered ability that my opponent has
@blazingdynamo2195
@blazingdynamo2195 3 ай бұрын
"Crim only plays stax" when Seth and Phil are both playing Ghostly Prison
@SilverCyan
@SilverCyan 3 ай бұрын
"all my favorite little burn spells" *Sheoldred the Apocalypse*
@Hennesg
@Hennesg 3 ай бұрын
Is Richard ever not smiling and laughing :D
@professortusk
@professortusk 3 ай бұрын
It's night and day compared to when some other people get knocked out first
@owlaboutme
@owlaboutme 3 ай бұрын
“TOUCHED THE HAND!” - Crim
@romanmisak441
@romanmisak441 3 ай бұрын
Phil's Ugin is awesome.
@fenderslasher
@fenderslasher 3 ай бұрын
I want you guys to play with planechase, archenemy, or the mega dungeon that was introduced for Commander Legends: Battle for Baldurs Gate.
@Darchias
@Darchias 3 ай бұрын
Scry 1 and draw is Opt. I've been trying to get 'Opt in', meaning keeping the card and drawing it, and 'Opt out', meaning bottoming the card and drawing the next one, to be adopted. Hasn't really caught on though.
@andrebogardus8098
@andrebogardus8098 3 ай бұрын
The classic story of watching someone ramp for 3 turns in a row but someone playing an annoying burn creature is the issue
@crawdaddy1234
@crawdaddy1234 3 ай бұрын
This game is proof enough that Crim is not a control player in Commander. He is chaos incarnate… which I love. 😂 The question is never, “What should I be doing?” The question is always, “What is the most entertaining thing I can do?”
@rafaelbarrera3601
@rafaelbarrera3601 3 ай бұрын
Crims spongebob reference was funny.
@hanschristopherson8056
@hanschristopherson8056 3 ай бұрын
Group slug isn’t stax lol
@Antihero808s
@Antihero808s 3 ай бұрын
Ok, of all the insane Ali Eldrazi sized combo plays Phil makes, Ugin is where he draws the line?! 😂
@RunninOnYT
@RunninOnYT 3 ай бұрын
We need more after game talk, a summary of thoughts about the game and decks.
@martinskullerud2195
@martinskullerud2195 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, that would be great. Most of the games are short enough now that there should be plenty of time in the videos.
@Lazydino59
@Lazydino59 3 ай бұрын
“That card is stax” is funny the first or second time but Jesus I’ve heard it like 20 times this episode and I’m not even done with it.
@gamerp1g
@gamerp1g 3 ай бұрын
I am half way through and it is crazy lol And it is the two people who are actually playing stax saying it 😅
@MAXFightMan
@MAXFightMan 3 ай бұрын
Thanks to Crim for playing so many of the new cards! Cool to see them in action.
@hydra66
@hydra66 3 ай бұрын
The duskmourn precons each came with 10 archenemy cards. I'd like to see you have a go at that that particular 3v1 format
@JonReid01
@JonReid01 3 ай бұрын
Who should the archenemy be? I vote Phil he never gets enough screen time
@Optimator7
@Optimator7 3 ай бұрын
CLASH ON! Group Slug isn't Stax, but it is certainly Stax-adjacent
@TheBotchJob
@TheBotchJob 3 ай бұрын
Unfortunately with how Niko's ability works because it says until the beginning of your end step, it doesnt allow you to get end step triggers from the creature shards because they are already shards in the beginning of the phase. I was definitely sad to have to take angel of destinies out of my decklist 😭
@blueredlover1060
@blueredlover1060 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, and you miss the timing with the original.
@benbresnan5325
@benbresnan5325 2 ай бұрын
You know you can stack your triggers however you want right? Trigger your angel tokens first before they revert and the original returns.
@TheBotchJob
@TheBotchJob 2 ай бұрын
@@benbresnan5325 specifically with this because of how it's worded it's not a trigger you're allowed to respond to because it's until the beginning of your end step. Because it is a continuous effect that modifies objects and which duration is worded to end specifically at the beginning of a step or phase. Still, the principle with a continuous' effect duration is that the effect isn't there anymore as soon as the end point has come, here the game being in the end step. The effect doesn't exist for any point of the end step, it lasts only until the step or phase that precedes the end step ends (that would usually be the second main phase, unless some effect has modified turn structure). For Angel of Destiny's ability to trigger, it needs to exist at the point the game has entered the end step, and at that point, the shards aren't copies anymore. Niko's effect ending and beginning of end step triggers are not simultaneous in that sense. There have been multiple judges who have confirmed this that have way higher knowledge than I do. It's unfortunate but it is what it is 🤷🏻‍♂️
@benbresnan5325
@benbresnan5325 2 ай бұрын
@@TheBotchJob 🤷🏼‍♂️ there was a judge at my local shop that rules the triggers could be stacked. I guess I can see both ways, but idk.
@TheBotchJob
@TheBotchJob 2 ай бұрын
@@benbresnan5325 well you can only go off of what your local judge said at the end of the day but unfortunately according to the rules of magic it's impossible to order the triggers because once the end step begins they are no longer copies of that creature. If the wording said, at the beginning of the next end step then you would be allowed but the imperative word in this instance is "until".
@RyanEglitis
@RyanEglitis 3 ай бұрын
Classic kingmaker trap at the end. Nobody could take out the one they needed to, all they could do was help the person they needed to kill, win
@alexkulis7295
@alexkulis7295 3 ай бұрын
Crim did an insane amount of damage this game
@joshbrown8043
@joshbrown8043 2 ай бұрын
Richard on his last turn talked about gaining life.. Cant Gain Life with that aura
@T.Made.It.95
@T.Made.It.95 3 ай бұрын
I absolutely love these tabletop matches! For commander and 60 card formats as well! Please 🙏🏻 Sirs.,,, may I have some More 😂
@cjfeinberg7613
@cjfeinberg7613 3 ай бұрын
I don’t think Aminatou works with X cost enchantments as suggested at 43:58. Aminatou makes an alternate cost, but is not a cost reduction effect, so the miracle cost is still XXUU. (X-4) is not a valid cost.
@chrismarlow9585
@chrismarlow9585 3 ай бұрын
You're right. Aminatou basically adds a new mana cost (aka miracle cost) onto the card which is the standard cost but up to -4 generic from what it originally was. At this point X is simply "X" so is unaffected. Then, when you cast the card for its new miracle cost you decide what value for X you select. X costs are confusing and unintuitive sometimes.
@Dragiceoriginal
@Dragiceoriginal 3 ай бұрын
Someone needs to teach you guys the difference between group slug and stax because it’s getting painful hearing you call everything stax
@iforget9694
@iforget9694 3 ай бұрын
It’s a joke little bro
@midn8588
@midn8588 3 ай бұрын
It's a joke
@Alikaoz
@Alikaoz 3 ай бұрын
They know. They are being stupid as a bit. It's not any less grating, but they do know.
@Snipfragueur
@Snipfragueur 3 ай бұрын
@@iforget9694 ​ @midn8588 Why are you guys getting angry ? Maybe this comment is a joke too
@thegamer907
@thegamer907 3 ай бұрын
@@iforget9694jokes are meant to be funny little bro
@RRWR17
@RRWR17 3 ай бұрын
To take advantage of the draw ping Crim needed Teferi's Puzzle Box
@jniteshade5352
@jniteshade5352 3 ай бұрын
Kona seems like a sweet deck. I'm not huge on mono green but this one is making me think of brewing it up. I pulled one in my Prerelease kit. Also submitted a deck for the viewer submitted episode! Excited to see what gets chosen, there were a lot of sweet brews.
@nomeacuerdo
@nomeacuerdo 3 ай бұрын
45:13 I want so much Phil’s emblem! 😂
@heirofheart766
@heirofheart766 3 ай бұрын
the aminatou in the intro looked kinda cute like spacing out looking at butterflies
@bigtristin4537
@bigtristin4537 3 ай бұрын
You guys should do a cedh week, the first person to lose, wins episode was the closest to cedh I’ve seen and that’s been the most entertaining episode
@jeremyhicks4517
@jeremyhicks4517 3 ай бұрын
The only thing that would have made Crims deck more evil is a grafted exoskeleton.
@psych0CS2
@psych0CS2 3 ай бұрын
I've been testing out some tech for Niko. My main goal since its really a flicker deck is to use my flickers on the 2 overlords after casting them for impending to get the counters off them right away, and then turn all the shards into copies of the Overlords and swing. Either drawing basically my entire deck or absolutely flooding the board with fliers
@pezzly4697
@pezzly4697 3 ай бұрын
While they have impending counters they aren’t creatures so Niko can’t flicker them
@nolandraper685
@nolandraper685 3 ай бұрын
@@pezzly4697there’s a lot of flicker spells that can hit enchantments though!
@psych0CS2
@psych0CS2 3 ай бұрын
@pezzly4697 no. Niko can't flicker things. But the deck is a flicker deck at heart. Flickerwisp, displacer kitten, etc. I have as many cards that can flicker enchantments as I could find that are 3 or less cmc as well as tutors for creatures and enchantments. Have Overlord in hand? I tutor for Kitten with recruiter of the guard. If I need an Overlord in hand, i have tutors like enlightened tutor to go find them as well. I also draw cards at mach 11 with mystic remora, rhystic study, the one ring, ect. As well as phyrexian metamorph to copy the one ring if it hurts too much after a while, and he can be tutored by the recruiter.
@JonReid01
@JonReid01 3 ай бұрын
​@@psych0CS2sounds fun
@justchica3243
@justchica3243 3 ай бұрын
You should do a “commander but we all play stax” but you’re just playing regular crim decks
@icycayden
@icycayden 3 ай бұрын
I’ve been waiting for a Kona deck. Can’t wait to see it drop big boys
@nickjoeb
@nickjoeb 3 ай бұрын
That game was awesome!
@shadowpsyke
@shadowpsyke 3 ай бұрын
There's something twisted about Richard convincing Phil to go hard on bounce lands and then being the one now to punish him for it.
@avesselgaming
@avesselgaming 3 ай бұрын
40:51 I beleive the -1, -1 are till end of turn.... so anything that comes in get the -?
@TemurToddler
@TemurToddler 3 ай бұрын
Best edh channel
@MTGGoldfishCommander
@MTGGoldfishCommander 3 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@lukecraig4984
@lukecraig4984 3 ай бұрын
I’d love to see another budget commander clash but instead of just doing like a $50 budget, you have it limited to the cards themselves so all cards have to be under $1 or something like that.
@bladewing26
@bladewing26 3 ай бұрын
@MTGGoldfishcommander when i use mtggoldfish for arena all of the desks show as invalid with the card name the set and then a (f) am i doing something wrong if i go in and manual remove the (f) it works just a pain to have to keep doing that
@pacman3743
@pacman3743 3 ай бұрын
Can someone please tell me what set Seth's gold border basics are from? I cannot find them online :/
@whaleofdarkness
@whaleofdarkness 3 ай бұрын
Gold border basics are from the old World Championship decks. Up until the early 2000s Wizards printed the best world championship decks of the year as a not tournament legal version with a gold border.
@danielbaker5365
@danielbaker5365 3 ай бұрын
What app do you guys use for video. It looks way higher quality than spelltable
@trashherink2306
@trashherink2306 3 ай бұрын
Land taste rating (play what makes you happy, I is just my personal preference) : Phil(OG❤), Seth/Richard (all different/gold border) , Crim ( I was expecting more white border)
@trollpatsch.
@trollpatsch. 7 күн бұрын
How is niko usually playing out? Is it fun? I played a lot of dsk quick draft the last week and built a really awesome deck with him... kinda want to build one of my first commander decks with him. Here it really didn't get to show off its stuff though 😅
@noahfriedrich4686
@noahfriedrich4686 3 ай бұрын
Seth and Richard playing modern: Eidolon of the Great Revel? Do people play stax in modern?
@twhite9615
@twhite9615 3 ай бұрын
I just took Kona to my LGS. It won 3 out of my 4 matches. People need to run more removal!
@mindhackz
@mindhackz 3 ай бұрын
2 stax players: we go to get rid of the stax pieces me: 👁️👄👁️
@maidonopai
@maidonopai 3 ай бұрын
My brain is stil thinking about the horrors that would be if kona had haste...
@kylegonewild
@kylegonewild 3 ай бұрын
My favorite land, Shattergang Hammerpass
@JoshRudis
@JoshRudis 3 ай бұрын
On this week of "Punt or Bluff?" Evil dies tonight! Will Phil's little demon-child wreak havoc or will Crim just send in an army of cenobites? Tune-in to find out!
@Hadesenootz
@Hadesenootz 3 ай бұрын
Where does crimm get the kick ass offset cube dice?
@KVGKQuake
@KVGKQuake 3 ай бұрын
They are jello dice
@Hadesenootz
@Hadesenootz 3 ай бұрын
@@KVGKQuake that is unfortunate, possibly the most difficult to google answer D:
@UnreasonableOpinions
@UnreasonableOpinions 3 ай бұрын
Yet again somehow Richard persuades the group that exploding in value every turn with no removal to speak of is just not as scary as one damage a turn.
@brningpyre
@brningpyre 3 ай бұрын
I love Mind's Dilation so much, it's one of my favourite cards. But it's usually garbage (like we see in this game), and other players massively exaggerate it as a threat. So you get little to nothing from it, and you just get killed.
@ivan-ky9mk
@ivan-ky9mk 3 ай бұрын
Seth wondering, why he won while he didn't pop off. That's why. You never were an enemy worth killing
@ashtonwestfall4777
@ashtonwestfall4777 3 ай бұрын
23:24 why didn’t phil use ugins -7
@Tangart88
@Tangart88 3 ай бұрын
Because Richard would live
@ashtonwestfall4777
@ashtonwestfall4777 3 ай бұрын
@@Tangart88I missed read it; i thought the -10 was a -7
@ImThatSmooth
@ImThatSmooth 2 ай бұрын
Crim was supposed to let the attacks go through before blowing Phil up 🤦🏻‍♂️
@thomasdeibele1978
@thomasdeibele1978 3 ай бұрын
Let's see each time crim is on how fast he gets targeted. Lol.
@burningpapersun1
@burningpapersun1 3 ай бұрын
Tidal barracuda isnt new?
@dyslixecturtle2755
@dyslixecturtle2755 3 ай бұрын
I can relate to Crim with my own playgroup lol no matter what I play the table sees it as a problem
@YellowEyedPuggle
@YellowEyedPuggle 3 ай бұрын
Crim. Just say CLASH ON already.
@lord_raga
@lord_raga 3 ай бұрын
@45:05 I just love when Crim isn't here 🤣
@anthonydelfino6171
@anthonydelfino6171 3 ай бұрын
Richard : Swords to Plowshares is a bad card! Also only a couple turns in, Generous Gift failed to really stop the slasher, and you've got a 15/15 trampler that turns into more tramply tokens if not exiled.... ;)
@Jlizard27
@Jlizard27 3 ай бұрын
Maybe this is splitting hairs, but I’m still trying to figure out what my spot removal package should look like. But wouldn’t Path to Exile maybe be a better choice here than Swords?
@anthonydelfino6171
@anthonydelfino6171 3 ай бұрын
@@Jlizard27 path ramps your opponent while swords gains them life. So swords is usually better Beyond that I would say chaos warp and reality shift are staples. I also really like baleful mastery since giving one opponent a card isn’t as big a drawback in a multiplayer game. I do think you should still run those universal removal spells like generous gift and beast within. Just exile removal is too powerful to only rely on destroy
@BloodMoonGo
@BloodMoonGo 3 ай бұрын
He finally didn't get away wirh it
@edoublem9767
@edoublem9767 3 ай бұрын
I hate that every time crim plays a hate more card that just does damage everyone is immediatly like stacks crim is playing stacks lol
@tardmonkey7319
@tardmonkey7319 3 ай бұрын
Phil's Ugin is better than the original
@hakarthemage
@hakarthemage 3 ай бұрын
Next week no bans? How about a Golos, Tireless Pilgrim.
@carolineperez7604
@carolineperez7604 3 ай бұрын
Do everyone playing the same tribe like four different takes on Vampires or Humans.
@chickenwyngs3646
@chickenwyngs3646 3 ай бұрын
They've done a human episode, and I think dragons?
@jackl8025
@jackl8025 3 ай бұрын
They've done slivers week too
@samsprague3158
@samsprague3158 3 ай бұрын
Ramping is stax because if they end the game too fast you can’t do anything.
@victoryarc8128
@victoryarc8128 2 ай бұрын
Fun game
@esrohm6460
@esrohm6460 3 ай бұрын
so while i do not like that everything is made for commander even when it is cards for standard i kinda feel it is a flavor fail kona doesn't have "partner with a human" thats the entire point behind the beasties that they are the monstrous versions of pets that still protect their owner
@nerocapro4319
@nerocapro4319 3 ай бұрын
No manifest tribal? ;(((((
@MentalCrusader
@MentalCrusader 3 ай бұрын
Phil targeting the Twenty-Toed Toad is angleshooting, isn't it?
@Steeks
@Steeks 3 ай бұрын
It is getting harder and harder to watch Seth and Phil complain about every point of damage while drawing 400 cards and ramping like crazy every game.
@pablopandolfo8446
@pablopandolfo8446 3 ай бұрын
Gets jwaried, laughts, that's the kind of player i want im my pods.
@light-chemistry
@light-chemistry 3 ай бұрын
Am I being gaslit here or did no one else see Richard did in fact die first this game?? He had it coming don't get me wrong but there's a reason why he kept saying Crim was scary too
@TripsAhoy
@TripsAhoy 3 ай бұрын
GG ❤❤❤
@ironocy496
@ironocy496 3 ай бұрын
Three Visits can grab any land that has the type of Forest, not just a card with the name Forest.
@SaltySwords
@SaltySwords 3 ай бұрын
He's in mono green lol
@m_inferno4510
@m_inferno4510 3 ай бұрын
@@SaltySwords technically he could get dryad arbor, gingerbread cabin, and sapseep forest, but none of those seem great in his deck lol
@thatepicwizardguy
@thatepicwizardguy 3 ай бұрын
burn is not stacks lol ya'll wild.
@OhMightyONE234
@OhMightyONE234 3 ай бұрын
do another anything goes with the new bans
@Okamithegod
@Okamithegod 3 ай бұрын
Week 3 asking for Vince to come back and play a game since the goldfish ban list has cards he got banned way back
@JStack
@JStack 3 ай бұрын
What ?
@DotDeck
@DotDeck 3 ай бұрын
Bring him back for another season! Love Vince!
@Okamithegod
@Okamithegod 3 ай бұрын
@@JStack way back on clash like early season Vince was a guest for a season and he got cradel and something else banned on the clash ban list cause he played it so much and it’s been so long I will fight to have him back in since the bans he got done are still in effect
@Niviuz
@Niviuz 3 ай бұрын
clash on is still cringe, but nice game
@CyberNewType
@CyberNewType 3 ай бұрын
Tomer isn’t even being on anymore, and this was supposed to be his season. Instead we get Crim for another season and him refusing to even say the Clash on. So i’d be good with them being done with it.
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