Xander vs. Jetmir vs. Rigo vs. Errant | Commander Clash S12E13

[@rookermtg9321]

Big love for Niuttuc and all the unnoticed work he does. What a hero

[@ms.sysbit5511]

Spoilers but I wanna commend Richard for sportsmanship. He did almost nothing all game but laughed and made it fun anyway. That’s a great example for others to follow.

[@Princeofseance]

This is why he's the GOAT

[@ItsMeBoingo]

Richard is hands down my favorite player him and Seth are the highlights always for me not to downplay the rest the dudes who do a good job as well

[@bobm1476]

It may seem like it is just him being a good sport, but it is also part of his strategy that lets him win 50% of the games they play! He tries to subtly sway decisions (targeted removal, who becomes the archenemy, etc) and remain that person that gets the table's pity because it seems like he not doing anything of note. However, he is just biding his time and shaping his hand while other people lose life and have their board states destroyed, soaking up the table's removal/answers to what he plans to do! I think it did not work as well this time because he was constantly forced to discard and never built up his mana base enough to do multiple things in the one opportune turn. He IS being a good sport as well. Don't want to make it seem like he is not, it just also serves a purpose.

[@Princeofseance]

@@bobm1476 or when he literally had three counters in hand one game and convinced someone else to answer a threat

[@wafflesporq]

It's important to remember that at the end of the day, when you're playing games with friends you're there to have fun with them. Richard is an amazing example of having good energy regardless of whether he's winning or losing.

[@ygaudreault]

I love how Richard always said he runs little removal and how he must now realising he pulled it off because of Crim. 😅

[@JulianHernandez-tn5gu]

Richard has so much success cause he's the best opportunist and he builds entirely around other people beating each other dead first

[@gregprice4834]

Tomer holding dig through time with the primal wellspring and a stocked graveyard was one of the most frustrating things I have seen in a sec.

[@connorvietzke7934]

Why settle for 2 dig through times when you can have 3 dig through times

[@josephpayton7522]

He should have copied primal amulet with all the echo storms.

[@N1ghthavvk]

He punted on the turn he played Expropriate too. Could've played Twinning Staff. That could've copied the Augury on the next. And on that extra turn he forgot about all the cards from his Aminatou's Augury. He only put a land into play. Sigh.

[@gregprice4834]

@@N1ghthavvk love tomer and but the punts can be very frequent

[@daredewley9231]

Ok guys I listen to every episode and I'm not convinced Richard actually remembers the text on farewell! This episode all but confirmed it when he said he wished it had modality! It does man! It does!!!!

[@royalfishness1]

I’m with you there. I don’t understand his hatred of it. I liked Phil’s reaction at one point to Richard complaining that wiping all the artifacts and creatures would be terrible becuase it would exile graveyards. Phil looks confused and quietly says something like “....then don’t?”

[@surfinggarchomp2820]

Cards ridiculous. It’s really nice to have farewell in your hand, because it gives you security

[@nCedric1]

We don't read cards in this channel

[@Spaced92]

I think he's just stubborn, exiling your own stuff can feel bad but how often does Richard get his stuff back from the graveyard? Of all of them I'd say he does it the least, and it's modal so obviously you don't have to.

[@hreiarevarsson7900]

Richard is the only person on earth who could have his board wiped, his hand discarded and his lands stolen and still be laughing along with everyone else! What a gem!

[@damnjekyll]

Still super sly with all his shady comments about Tomers "bad deck" and "inability to finish" kinda lame imo Say what you mean or say nothing homie 😂

[@jacobbono]

Richard: Spot Removal is a waste of a slot in today's meta. Also Richard: We lost because no one interacted with key permanents that stayed on board all game.

[@Pedro-ho2xj]

Yeah, If everyone expects the others to be the ones to take care of things then combos and synergies are way more ridiculous than they should be.

[@Lucarioguild7]

Exactly lol, I think he got a little too complacent with Crim at the table now bombs are just running the games

[@AgonalRhythm]

Commander and Modern are completely different formats, this is a goofy argument

[@jacobbono]

@@AgonalRhythm What are you talking about? No one is talking about Modern here. In both cases I'm referencing Richard talking about Commander.

[@Lucarioguild7]

@@AgonalRhythm modern as in contemporary you rube

[@cloudroth6]

Commander clash drinking game everytime someone brings up fairwell take a shot XD

[@SylphIcilio]

I'd rather not die.

[@emagtresni]

Tomer's deck was incredibly cool, but watching Tomer pilot the deck was incredibly frustrating.

[@vincentfarnsworth1028]

held on to that dig through time way too long...

[@Crunchatize_Me_Senpai]

That Mystical Tutor punt hurt my soul 😂

[@henrye3935]

@@vincentfarnsworth1028 I'm an hour in and he's driving me mad. No cards in hand except dig plus the ability to copy it, but nope. We'll just sit and do nothing,

[@monogreen]

I normally agree with Tomer, but no one ever is both the good guy and plays with expropriate.

[@rookermtg9321]

No Syr Konrad or Dreadhound with Xander is a true miss. Those are the best way to actually win with Xander instead of just prolonging the game.

[@lysander3262]

I didn't know about Dreadhound! Might try teching it into my Mimeoplasm deck. Cheers.

[@TMidander]

It's seth, he wants to make durdly value plays, not win the game :)

[@frogpizza]

45:16 "i have one card in hand lol".... *dig through time*

[@DylanHunter64]

My evaluation of Xander when you guys talked about him was pretty on. I said his targeting instead of saying each opponent made him better because you could politic his abilities with the table to attack the scary guy. That's exactly what happened.

[@Spaced92]

Let's be real though, Crim never would've won with this deck. Takes a dude like Seth who durdles and doesn't anger anyone haha

[@benjiboy1337]

I did not realize that Skyclave Relic's kicker was tied to an ETB trigger... That's pretty strong.

[@MTGGoldfishCommander]

It's really sweet with Panharmonicon, that's for sure.

[@TheQuarrelsomeOne]

Expropriate always makes you the bad guy. Doesn't matter the board state or what happened earlier in the game, Expropriate is always a groan inducer.

[@ArleneMarvell]

I feel that Crim's philosophy has just being validated by this episode

[@theLogicblade]

Wow i wasn't expecting to see Tomer punting for 2 and a half hours, but really I should've known better.

[@hanschristopherson8056]

Seth made crim proud

[@CyberNewType]

Tomer: I don’t know why I get killed first every game Also Tomer: takes 3-4 times longer EVERY turn than every other player. Spending most of it saying ‘ummm….ummm’ then proceeds to still do it wrong. lmao!

[@kingfuzzy2]

He's a combo player so it's the right response if you forgot to put direct removal and stack interaction on the deck.

[@LADodgerBlue]

I feel Hellkite Courser would be good in a Xander deck to get the effect again

[@MTGGoldfishCommander]

Yeah! It's in there :)

[@snowhusk]

my favorite thing about new commanders is how you have a decent suite of 3 cmc three-colored commanders that could be cast completely off of jeweled lotus alone. I don't have any of those cards and/or decks, but I like the idea mechanically

[@peterhardiman7333]

Whyyyyyy did tomer sacrifice the search for azcanta? I just don't get it....it could have made his brainstorm so much better if he'd flipped it...(tomer I have no hate for you playing expropriate I just wish you'd played it better x)

[@woolsyzygy]

Duck face from Seth in the intro.🤣

[@emmanewton7342]

"planeswalkers are really good when you have a sol ring to power them out two turns early." this is true, never have i seen people more afraid of my boros deck dropping koth. it's not built around him, i just think he's neat.

[@kingfuzzy2]

Yeah he's one of my favorite walkers for multiple reasons.

[@emmanewton7342]

@@kingfuzzy2 he's a badass in the lore, and his abilities are useful. when most of my land are mountains, he's basically just a ritual for my huge burn spell.

[@kingfuzzy2]

Preach! ( :

[@jacobschenecker7318]

Always a good episode with Richard on birds (and Toski)!

[@emilypearl3510]

Expropriate is just, a long standing villian. A new card doesn't have that built in drama and anger

[@kingfuzzy2]

Funny thing is I've seen someone take 8 extra turns off of copying and still not win.

[@arghanothername]

Glad to see Richard and Seth stepping so far outside their comfort zones…. Jk, looking forward to this.

[@Crunchatize_Me_Senpai]

2:25:34 “....you gonna murder a bird on camera?” I. Friggin. Died. 🤣

[@johnhearty7885]

I love Tomer to bits, his deckbuilding is fantastic, but there are weeks when his piloting choices make watching Commander Clash tough. Like at 38:00, where he draws the gauntlet and has exactly the mana to a) cast gauntlet and b) cast Echo Storm using the 1-mana reduction from Primal Amulet. At which point he gets 4 gauntlets, causing each island to tap for 5. This seems like an excellent play, right? 5 mana from every island and +4/+4 to creatures? Plus Xander doesn't slow him down much, he just keeps the gauntlets and casts card draw. So then Tomer puts gauntlet in the yard, and I'm thinking okay, so he's gonna copy Primal Amulet instead, that's also very good - the spell cost discount is cumulative although only -4 mana and Xander might target him before he can flip them to the (non-legendary) land side, but 4x Primal Wellspring seems very strong - the set would add 4 mana and copies 4x for free. Very nice, very nice. But then Tomer copies... sol ring and skyshroud relic, for 1-2 mana each (I think he got 6 total?) and no real protection against Xander. My spine shatters under the sheer force of cringe. I know it's easy to talk when nobody's recording my misplays... but I was left regretting what the game might've been if he'd taken a bolder, more explosive, more commander-y line.

[@adamfiliatreault3393]

It was so fun to see Lord Xander in the hands of a fun, casual player. Also thank you to Phil for giving me some ideas of how to change my Rith, the Awakener token deck :)

[@benjiboy1337]

Jetmir being more or less a Craterhoof Behemoth in the Command Zone is pretty strong, though you do have to develop a large board for it to work.

[@SamuelKacerik]

You can literally play two spells and be there.

[@thedoctor559]

Tomer spent so long thinking out his line, then flubbed it right at the end. Grabbing Eternal Dominion would still give at least 3 total spells

[@thedoctor559]

Also grabbing expropriate is a low blow

[@nicholaskandas]

The slow realization that this is one game. I really thought Tomer was going to win quickly. Very fun game to watch.

[@JohnSmith-hs9ez]

It was so frustrating for Tomer to not cast the dig through time. Seriously, cast the dig instead of activating the war room wtf.

[@notsm]

We've come full circle I feel like. This game was basically battlecruiser magic as commander is intended to be because the big guns have become so powerful and fun that they outrank the answers in deckbuilding.

[@peterhardiman7333]

Farewell doesn't have to exile creatures!! I'm so confused as to why Richard thinks it's bad, has he read it? Lol

[@royalfishness1]

I think many of us are confused by that at this point

[@Alikaoz]

Yeah, that's not a MODO Bug, Expropriate just doesn't set a duration or condition for the control change, so there's nothing to "end" when the player leaves, this makes all the stolen permanents fall under the umbrella clause of "if the player still controls something, exile it".

[@rosavanopheusden5211]

in this game, a turn three Smuggler's Share would have produced: for Phil: 2 cards, 1 treasure for Richard: 4 cards, 1 treasure and a turn 5 Aerial Extortionist would have produced (not counting its exile ability): for Phil: 7 cards for Richard: 5 cards ...and then the All is Dust hit. after it resolved, these cards would have produced (again not counting Extortionist's exile ability): Smuggler's Share, for Phil: 4 cards Aerial Extortionist, for Phil: 5 cards Smuggler's Share, for Richard: 1 card Aerial Extortionist, for Richard: 3 cards

[@galleadden]

This is the information i come to the comments for.

[@jankasmann4042]

You couldve cast the dragonlair spider with your llanowar elves. jetmir+foundry for red, llanowar+confluence for red. Or am I missing something?

[@thomasjacobs4919]

I also run Expropriate in my esper deck, along side a little card called Illusion of Choice.

[@Lucarioguild7]

Richard: This all happened because no one had spot removal Also Richard: Why would I play spot removal? It's bad

[@alecolson8360]

That was a very enjoyable game, good power balancing!

[@jekanyika]

Normally I'm hoping Richard doesn't win due to his win rate, but I do love the birds so they have my full support.

[@lysander3262]

Oh my god Seth that Skyclave Relic Value 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 I briefly saw the face of my creator when that trigger got copied

[@kingfuzzy2]

Hope to see some spicy jank and some rigo and errant action ( :

[@brentkeegan4719]

Actually the way tomer stole those permanents means they exile when he leaves the game. If he played a card that said gain control until this leaves the battlefield then they go to the players they belong to but since tomer took them with spells that said just take it then them exiling when he died is correct.

[@martinprybylski2392]

DId I miss something or did Tomer not grab the spellseeker on the last digs to be able to tutor up cyclonic rift to bounce Jetmir on combat to shrink the dudes? I think he had it and punted. I might have missed the use of cyclonic rift earlier in game, but I don't think so.

[@zachmcgann9146]

What a rollercoaster of a match. I honestly was rooting for you Tomer.

[@shundo8460]

Fun drinking game: take a drink every time phill says “value”

[@jekanyika]

I wish Tomer would spend a bit longer hovering over the cards. I can't read fast enough.

[@brandonambrose4292]

So tomer casts Aminatou’s Augury to play a land and nothing else? Seems like a good card.

[@shammerHammer]

1:34:15 you alight there, Phil? :D

[@antonioslusarz419]

What do you think about the Warhammer cards from yesterday’s preview?

[@RyanEglitis]

I think Phil could have cast Dragonlair Spider when he was complaining about mana - he just had to tap the Llanowar Elves

[@obergfamily9049]

I have a friend that told us when we sat down for our commander week that he was bringing some hardcore spice and he slapped Lord Xander down in the command zone. He said to bring out our strongest stuff and by turn 5 he had Tergrid and Lord Xander plus a Phyrexian Altar. We died gloriously.

[@Petronio39]

Ohh man, I built Rigo too and he's so much fun to play. I'm happy to see bird tribal back, but that's not the direction I took him. I went for, "sending a message," tribal. All the cards like kraken hatchlings, ornithopter and their insanely power crept twins like aegis turtle and broker's initiate get to represent by becoming a formidable defensive wall while I send a message early game. To actually win, I'm running exalted enablers to grow the creatures after Rigo has drawn with them, some power=toughness enablers, and some other spicy finishers like Tanzir Quandrix, and Storvald. Deck kicks ass, and is just tons of fun.

[@victivity52]

decklist?

[@jordanvaughan768]

Sheesh, people are such di**s in the comments. Everybody is an expert, efficient, 100% optimal player who never makes a mistake, never has a long turn, never misses triggers. They also can always do better in any given situation, especially in hindsight (and being able to have information like all the cards that are in the other players’ hands). Funny how that works! Tomer’s deck requires timing: Phil and Richard just hand-dump and attack, Seth just gets excess mana and does one big thing a turn. Also, Tomer is so happy his deck is doing what he built it to do and clearly having fun and then is also being hazed because he didn’t win right away. It’s a shame to see. Can’t just be happy you got to do something fun. If Seth casts an All is Dust in that exact situation, Richard says “thanks!” But instead Tomer casts it (and the same result happens as if Seth or Phil had cast it) and it’s like “wow, why would you do that?”

[@stcado142]

The hate for Expropriate transcends jank once again!

[@stronggreenflame]

I thoroughly enjoyed the crim love in this episode

[@JoshRudis]

On this week of "Punt or Bluff?" everyone gets streetwise. Will Seth become the kingpin he was always destined to become or will Tomer "paint the streets" in defiance? Tune in to find out!

[@returnoftheduelist9790]

I made the errant deck with a few changes; avalanche caller to make snow lands 4/4s, extraplanar lens over the caged sun and gauntlet, no expropriate, no all id dust or cyc rift but evacuation, more draw power cantrips, archaomancer, and better couters like wash away/offer you cant refuse/etc. I like it cuz its hard work and not a typical blue deck. I made 7 copies and 9 copies of eternal dominion respectively out of the 4 games i played the deck so far.

[@LukeFromNY]

On paper yet?

[@stronggreenflame]

Tomer saying that people would have been dead without Xander is basically saying that people die faster when no one interacts with anyone else.

[@scarecr0w630]

Can someone explain the venser animate dead thing to me? Am confuzzled

[@scarecr0w630]

How is the combo supposed to work?

[@Niuttuc]

@@scarecr0w630 It's not an infinite combo by itself, but it's an infinitely repeatable action. Venser, with Panharmonicon out, can bounce himself and any other spell or permanent for 2UU, becoming a way better capsize, essentially. Animate Dead kills the creature it reanimated when it leaves the battlefield. With that setup, Seth could pay 3UUB to cast venser, bounce himself and animate dead back to hand, get the Xander death trigger, then recast animate dead to get Xander's ETB trigger again, and repeat as long as there's mana, all the while keeping Venser up to bounce any spell or permanent threatening him.

[@scarecr0w630]

@@Niuttuc ohhh thank you sir I did not see panharmonicon

[@benjiboy1337]

Prosperous Partnership, Stimulus Package, and any Doubling Season effect; nets you infinite 1/1s and treasure tokens. Tap three creatures to make 2 treasures, sacrifice the two treasures to make four creatures, repeat repeat repeat, then with your huge board of 1/1s you can make arbitrarily many treasure tokens to cast other spells. Throw in a Professional Face-breaker to turn the treasures into cards, and you draw your deck with unlimited mana and creatures - any haste enabler wins.

[@benjiboy1337]

Also, since you have tons of mana and tapped tokens, it enables a Halo Fountain win.

[@josephpayton7522]

Tomer should have copied Primal Amulet with all the Echo Storms. That would have been sweet. It would have made the second echo storm cheaper as well as let him pop off with dig through time and look for more spells and mana rocks to flip the amulets to protect them before getting hit with Lord Xander's ability.

[@Niuttuc]

Token copies can't flip, so they would have stayed amulets forever. While there could be some value from it, ultimately it's much narrower than actual mana rocks.

[@josephpayton7522]

@@Niuttuc Really?! Didn't know that. Btw, great editing!

[@josephpayton7522]

​@@NiuttucHaha. I'm right. You're wrong. I know more about magic than Niuttuch. Tomer CAN make a token copy and then transform it. Just kidding obviously, but when I saw the new rules change that makes it possible to copy transforming artifacts, I got so excited. It took me way longer than I'm willing to admit to find this comment... Please respond so I can feel validated. 😊

[@Niuttuc]

@@josephpayton7522 You weren't wrong, just a year early. The perils of time travel

[@josephpayton7522]

@@Niuttuc Thank you sir.

[@jeffchittim3619]

I wonder if the others in the Commander Clash crew tune out Richard's endless hyperbole. I get he is playing politics, but he just keeps going and going and going.

[@tylerfoster2814]

Tomer's Null Rod reference. :)

[@senken12]

For theft effects and leaving the game (800.4a) If a permanent is stolen with a time restriction on it (e.g. Mind Control or Act of Treason), then that permanent's owner gets it back If a permanent is stolen without a time restriction (e.g. Bribery or Blatant Thievery), then that permanent is exiled

[@stronggreenflame]

Expropriate and cards like it like Insurrection are fine. They are so expensive and can still be interacted with. And they aren't even guaranteed wins. They are just so expensive.

[@KellyUnekis]

I would like an essay from Richard on the reasons why Whippoorwill is too powerful to be allowed to fly.

[@justcalvin8855]

How does Phil always have sol ring?!?!?!???!? The luck is insane

[@winssports4830]

Expropriate is on the same level as Omniscience. It's really not that bad if the table doesn't give the player extra turns. However most people are not logical and don't wanna give up permanents. It either wins or it makes the table kill you.

[@biggymiggy6408]

Tomers deck was cool until he got expropriate

[@sirusburningham4521]

Normally killing the Expropriate player is correct ...Tomer's deck is not within 'normally'

[@lilispoon369]

I bet Phil’s closet looks like a cartoon character’s

[@ebonezra8073]

Honestly, at this point, it's just Phil's rhetoric whenever he says, "I wouldn't play x... ." Almost every week, he plays something that he claims he "would never play." If he has a code, it's predicated on first saying he won't play something followed by a week where he excuses his playing out on account of his choice of deck build. No shade meant here, just pointing out what I see/hear.

[@siener]

It's time to create a Commander Clash ban list with Sol Ring, Dockside, Rhystic Study, Smothering Tithe etc.

[@ms.sysbit5511]

Or said another way a logical EDH ban list

[@nerdyviking]

Nope

[@MTGGoldfishCommander]

I think we're planning to go back to a house ban list for next season, since we're already more than half way through this season.

[@itsallenwow]

Alright now that Tomer got the Expropriate out of his system can we be done with that card?

[@CodenameJD]

Dang, I was really hoping to see Eternal Dominion happen. Seems like such a cool card but I've never even seen it cast, never mind see what it can actually do over a game. But you got greedy, Tomer, and decided to be a villain with that Expropriate, so your plans had to get foiled.

[@galleadden]

If you want to see it cast and see it in work, their esports episode from some weeks ago showed off that card real good!

[@FistofGod88]

What does EWIT mean?

[@TMidander]

(E)ternal (WIT)ness

[@MrShinyObject]

Tomer, it was very much the wrong choice to take expropriate (and probably a mistake to put it in the deck). It drew you so much hate and didn't really progress your. Board state. Why not just take the card your whole deck is built around? You'd also be able to bribery so many things you'd be able to make blockers or maybe snag a propaganda effect. Phil has also admitted to letting players do cool things, you could have at least tried to make a deal. I am really disappointed as a viewer to not see the deck do what it was built to do because of your greed.

[@SamuelKacerik]

If Xander wins this game, others are doing it VERY wrong. That commander needs to get kicked to the ground.

[@gildarmesh3809]

Expropriate instead of eternal dominion is like building a quirky deck for copying rats that crew vehicles to only make infinite mana and then play torment of hailfire. I mean why use jank when you can use jank as a veil to play obviously broken things that everyone already know ends games? I love spooky expropriate

[@Optimator7]

CLASH ON! Xander doesn't seem so bad

[@ninshjok]

Really loved Seth deck, I kind of usally do the same in my table, end winning becouse there are 1 or more 2 player who are doing too good XD

[@Ricardo-zo1ti]

Lord Xander is perfectly fine, and this game proved it

[@javids.9537]

Clash On!

[@nachschub4836]

Titally agree with seth do artwork Rankings start with birds or the most powerful tribe skeletons

[@damnjekyll]

March of Mists gets around Farewell. (;

[@homerisms]

Echo storm + liquimetal torque/coating to copy creatures

[@winssports4830]

Lol Tomer runs the hyper complicated decks and always punts his way through them 😂.

[@ADVBCAT]

I haven't been following magic a lot lately... ... People thought a 7-mana Grixis commander was ban-worthy? Did people just like, forget everything about magic?

[@charliewright2667]

I think it's just the argument of not fun to play against, but like Lavinia and gaddock teeg and Sen triplets and memnarxh aren't banned lol

[@remembertobreathe66]

52:35 Seth: How do Moonfolk even fly? Tomer: They have bunny ears, so in my headcannon they spin them like a helicopter. Me: O.O I can't decide if you should definitely write a book, Tomer, or never, ever write a book.

[@Tsunamiis]

exproperate is litearlly teir 1 hate card, but xander i would autoattack before they can get rolling so.

[@ParfaxGaming]

how can phil be upset with anything anyone plays lol

[@royalfishness1]

Richard's hatred of Farewell HAS to just be a meme at this point. He always, for whatevger reason in every situation, talks about Farewell doing the absolute worst version of what it could do in that scenario..... I approve of many of his hot takes like Cyclonic Rift not being that great, but the Farewell hate is obnoxious and wrong at this point

[@Ricardo-zo1ti]

Yup. I'm on board with Richard on the Cyclonic Rift, Secret Rendezvous, Skullwinder... But the farewell thing is just trolling, it has to be

[@royalfishness1]

@@Ricardo-zo1ti *tomer has huge board of artifacts, Phil has huge board of creatures* “Seth”: man farewell Woild be really good here to get rid of artifacts and creatures “Richard”: WHAT? That would be so bad! You Would exile your own graveyard to do that.” Repeatedly. Like, what??

[@royalfishness1]

@@SilverAlex92 well, seeing as every week since it’s been printed, multiple players have commented that farewell Woild solve the board when no other wrath woild. I feel like 2022 mtg, where everything hits all opponents and not much hits you these days, players see any sort of potential negative impact to their own game plan as absolutely garbage. And that is not a good take

[@ms.sysbit5511]

@@SilverAlex92 neither of which pierces indestructibility and require a second card to exile the issue. Farewell is far stronger than either.

[@ms.sysbit5511]

@@SilverAlex92 I would rather exile my yard with w handful of recursion if it exiles Meren/Muldrotha/etc’s yard. Hell, I run it among other wraths in my knight reanimator deck built around Haakon in the 99. Wrath of God style wraths misses too many things nowadays to only run that style.

[@Grinthex]

I would rather suffer through 3 expropriates verse xander loops.

[@ttobbattam]

This game is proof that Crim is the hero we need. We called him a villain because we weren't ready to accept that spot removal, counterspells, and opposition agent are justice. I hope we can now all move past this and recognize Crim as the dark knight of the board.

[@zurran00]

the only ahole play Seth didn't do is cast cyclonic rift. while complaining about a fair card. but that's how Seth stays alive in these games. threat deferment