The Stupidest 4-Way Control Mirror | Commander Clash S16 E06

[@Nathanael_Forlorn]

Again, I miss the debrief segment at the end. Makes for a less abrupt end and it's just natural to talk about the game that just happened. That's what we do irl as well, isn't it.

[@gerardoayala8124]

Though I agree, I can imagine Seth wearily saying "we don't need a wrap up" after this game lol

[@gluttonne]

Could make a fun follow video for people that like wrap ups

[@andyspendlove1019]

Legit shocked a 4 way control mirror game is only an hour long

[@harrisonlorens3585]

Same lmao, very interested to see how it plays out.

[@Niuttuc]

The actual game time was over three hours, but a lot of it was people thinking while doing nothing, as could be expected, so the edited video is much shorter

[@kurowasanabe]

Editor is Best Boy yet again.

[@TMidander]

Thank you for the deep Lore!@@Niuttuc

[@hanschristopherson8056]

I think the actual game was, it was like 20+ turns

[@thatguyinyellow2950]

Your editor is amazing! they put all of the cards on screen and cut all of the boring searching! Love you guys!

[@Luteloots]

Wow what an ending. 100% did not see that coming in the slightest. This was WAY more fun to watch than it had any right being considering it was a 4 way control mirror.

[@chrisgebben2043]

for those wondering what that was don't look below Basically richard drew a miracle with his "Spectral sailor" he drew "Glacial Chasm" then he was able to kill both of them with "Price of Progress" and he lives with his land.

[@JustDan_777]

100% agree so fun to watch even tho all control

[@hanschristopherson8056]

I like how the phil control deck is still a phil disgusting value deck 😂

[@ernestosalinas1091]

Crim's birthday party looks good

[@Snargglecraft]

The editor is doing a GREAT job

[@KDurahan]

I have to say, I'm loving the new format where you play with real cards. MTGO works, but i'm a big fan of your current setup and the editor is doing an amazing job with the big cards to read as they get played

[@onlyRicky_x]

I love how organized Phil's board is

[@vividsyntax5301]

Phil's absolute disdain with "You tap your lands in different directions? Disgusting." made me laugh out loud. To be fair, he's correct. XD

[@Deverille]

Not a Green mana pip in sight. Beautiful. Really enjoyed this game. Control match-ups are fun to watch.

[@DragonAttack515]

Really like the in person format

[@thatguyinyellow2950]

The change to spelltable is amazing! I love this so much!

[@heraclies325]

Am I the only one that noticed Richard used Sharpie to draw on his dry erase tokens at 36:16...?

[@josephpayton7522]

Hahahaha!

[@DrMonty-ng5fo]

what a cool win! never seen that combo before.

[@esconde9922]

Gold border cards are awesome.

[@Spotifist]

Did not expect it to end like that but it makes sense. The editing is great but I do miss MTGO, maybe I’ll get used to the new format eventually. Thanks for the video!

[@gregorybarnard5593]

Real cards are way better than mtgo

[@lesternomo6578]

richard trying to mystic sanctuary with half the lands in his deck out and only one island 😭

[@dolando5031]

As someone whos only really ever watched MTGO/Arena, I'm enjoying the switch to paper a lot. The on screen graphics really help clarity, and not having to deal with MTGO's jankiness is really nice (even edited down it would slow the experience down as a spectator, it mustve been 10x worse for you guys lol)

[@TargetPractice792]

I never look in the foreground of their streams too often but I'm just NOW noticing that Phil has a Buddy Christ model and that's the best thing ever

[@moralessanchezoscarelias6412]

Excellent edition, it made the game feel fast paced! One of the most enjoyable control matches to watch

[@WushuTaz]

Always enjoyed your taste in basic lands Seth. Keep it coming, there is still so much excellent "under rated" art out there.

[@fulconelis]

crim being so gleeful at 56:55 is hilarious

[@krevin543]

Love the layout of the video with the playmate and faces in square frames in the middle

[@tianruixiao9239]

Back from vacation to catch up on the clashes! This episode you know Crim definitely says clash on!

[@corbinunderwood8584]

Crim, it was an amazing day meeting you at nationals. I'm so thankful to have your signature on my mat. Also wanted to let you know I ended up 43rd:) in the digimon nationals

[@AustinMerfeld]

Not going to lie, I was not expecting the price of progress. Very nice finish.

[@xyavdast5554]

On turn 18 - during Crim's turn - at 51:00 Seth used Azcanta to get "Approach of the Second Sun" to his hand. Then his turn followed. As such during his turn Seth could have simply used his Boseiju's ability to make an instant or sorcery spell uncounterable and used it to cast "Approach of the Second Sun" a second time - just like he did for the first time a few turns prior. So he would have won the game with that, right? Did he not do it to keep the game going for content or is there another reason I failed to see preventing him from casting it that way while he was at 25 life?

[@laytonjr6601]

I'm wondering the same thing. Crim did say he had a plan for that (and that he would have used it on Nezahal if Approach hadn't been the biggest threat) Edit: I've now reached the end of the video, and Crim didn't use it on the Price of Progress so I don't know what he had (he only had 3 untapped lands)

[@ScottyDoesKnow]

That was bothering me so much, but looking back it was somewhat reasonable, even if I still woulda gone for it. Crim said he had it handled, and basically what would've happened if he cast it the first time he could it'd get Venser'd back to his hand. He had enough mana to try again but not uncounterable and then it'd probably be countered. That might have been the best result since it would take the heat off him, cause if he tried once and then saved it for the next turn he was dead to the board once everyone focused him. Not trying again the turn after was pretty bad though, he was so low he was basically dead already.

[@ScottyDoesKnow]

@@laytonjr6601 It was the Venser he used to save his Teferi

[@xyavdast5554]

@@ScottyDoesKnowSo basically if Seth did not discard his "Stifle" and would have activated his "The One Ring's" ability first to draw out Richard's "Tishana's Tidebinder" then he could have cast "Approach of the Second Sun" uncounterable. This would have caused Crim to cast his "Venser" but Seth could have countered it by using his "Stifle". Therefore unless someone else had another counter Seth would have had the chance to win the game that turn if he kept "Stifle". Everything would have depended on anyone else having another counter. Is that right?

[@ScottyDoesKnow]

@@xyavdast5554 Ya I also thought it was kinda weird he pitched the stifle, that could've been the win though it could easily have been countered. In the end you gotta just go for it rather than sit there and slowly die

[@stronggreenflame]

This has been amazing. The thing i love the most about control decks is you are never completely out of the game. And its so hard to know who's in the lead.

[@lesternomo6578]

phil looking like jimmy wong with these land drops

[@thomasvconti]

Richard won despite having lost like 10 Nezahal triggers, well played

[@Thecalebpoe]

Spoilers much....

[@masterjbt]

richard always wins lol

[@emagtresni]

@@Thecalebpoe If you haven't watched the video you shouldn't be reading the comments.

[@Thecalebpoe]

@@emagtresni how does that even make sense. I was looking to see if someone commented what I was thinking during a certain point of the video. So I could join that conversation.

[@xchronox0]

@@Thecalebpoe Protip: The comments section will contain spoilers. Including the thing you were looking for, which also would've been a spoiler for people who haven't watched as much of the video as you have.

[@thomasdehetre300]

This game is a perfect example for this format of video being superior. I bet this would have been a 3 hour game on mtgo.

[@xantous2229]

It's been a few weeks of them doing the live play and I think its 1000% better than playing mtgo. I hope this is the new standard for commander clash

[@atle853]

Absolutely loving the paper content, please keep doing it!

[@BoozeJob]

That was great and I would love to see more control-leaning themes in the future!

[@Ingvar_the_Red]

This is the most riveting game I have seen in a long time, and I aint even joking.

[@ethanmaples8893]

by far my favorite episode in a long time. Was so fun to watch!

[@scotty.mcsquared]

I loved this video. Please more silly control shenanigans in the future!

[@ToSGod]

This is amazing. Thank you for this episode.

[@hammernnaila7031]

The only episode that I feel has held up to the previous seasons on MTGO.

[@ctomsky]

Okay so maybe a 4-way control game is a bit much, but it IS nice to see them actually playing interaction and counterspells.

[@highshelf]

Phil was genius for playing monarch on control week

[@hiSoraaa]

Really do love the paper magic as a change up and hope to see more of it in the future!

[@Nathanael_Forlorn]

As the dedicated hard control player of the pod, I am very thankful for this episode! A) I love a good control mirror match! B) As my list is less salty than these are, I am hopeful that folks will be not as upset with me. :D

[@gerardoayala8124]

Perhaps it was a brutal experience for (some of) the players, but that was a really cool game! Love how everyone injected their own flavor into their control decks.

[@stayathomedad4830]

Dragonlord Oj was so much fun in standard. Thats when i got into edh. My esper dragons was a fnm pub stomper. My favorite card that standard rotation was "silence". The look on peoples face when i would silence them was priceless

[@arieleraso5734]

phil at 19:50 LOL

[@NaldoNidoking]

Great episode. 4 control decks is always a fun time.

[@emailboyatthestar]

this was amazing guys! really enjoyed this!

[@Spacie_687]

I love how three diffrent teferis were in this episode

[@DarthTUK]

4

[@skykur]

@@DarthTUK 5 if you count his protection too XD

[@DiscardatRandom]

I would’ve expected more

[@BM-rd4ms]

I have been on gold basics for awhile. Glad Seth has seen the light lol

[@SP-ik6cc]

This was a lot of fun to watch, guys!

[@Dafins100]

Is there a story behind why Richard says Otawaroo instead of Otawara? Or is he just being wrong?

[@commiecommandermtg]

Commie Commander here, What a ride. Very sad to see no talk at the end :(. But control is so fun. What a great way to end the game!

[@Eddyb1e]

As unfun as this might initially come off as, I actually really enjoyed the level of interaction in this game.

[@DiscardatRandom]

High interaction game are usually the most fun

[@coreysierchio4650]

1:04:16 Phil called it!

[@Swnkmstr]

Dragonlord Ojutai? Hook 2015 standard up and pump it into my veins xD

[@Ravynsrage]

This was absolutely fantastic to watch

[@Varler_]

Huge props to @Niuttuc for editing this down to an hour! Also, that Glacial Chasm into Price of Progress to win was pretty stylish!

[@CyberNewType]

loved,loved,loved this game! Good job guys!

[@gmpd4191]

Haven’t even watched it yet. This is going to be a great game. Hitting the like button

[@gmpd4191]

Am I the only person who misses MTGO? Honestly thought it gave the channel some charm because it was the only channel that used it and honestly the random bugs and crashes are probably frustrating for the players but it’s a fun bit of chaos.

[@Zwork101]

Not sure why this is labeled as disgusting, this was Magic at it's finest

[@astrowerm]

Crim didnt even say clash on and everyones like, he did it good job! Haha

[@wakatoashaw2249]

How did the one ring get destroyed? Did the ETB stifle remove indestructible?

[@FlashTheSlothDMV]

Dang, awesome seeing all the instant speed interactions everyone had. Really thought that Crim would have won as it was in in forte.

[@VivBrodock]

Crim is so happy throughout this video it's so cute

[@voidprism_studios666]

interesting watch. That ending K.O. was epic

[@ebonezra8073]

52:08 I know we have been asking for longer games, but why didn't Seth play Approach? He tapped Boseiju to make his 8 mana Ondu Inversion uncounterable... Am I missing something? Both spells are Sorceries, so... 🤔 he had the mana, he was allowed to cast Sorcery spells, he had white available. He threw the game!

[@theoneandonlyflexo]

Crim did have Venser to bounce the spell

[@fade2grey]

Love the paper gameplay!

[@_claymore]

can someone explain (around 28:28) why Crim would cast Ertai Resurrected after Phil's Sun Titan ETBs to then destroy the titan instead of casting it before and countering the titan to begin with? he did not politic with Phil to make a deal or anything, so what's the benefit of giving Phil the free ETB off of the titan??

[@MTGGoldfishCommander]

I think Crim wanted the counterspell enchantment on the battlefield so he let it resolve and then killed it

[@t.o.mmy.-.]

I believe Phil had Cavern of Souls naming Giant, making the Sun Titan uncounterable

[@webbc99]

Hilarious game, there were so many Teferis :D

[@alexkulis7295]

Loving the webcam games by the way. The games definitely move at a better pace than what MTGO allows with its outdated interface.

[@HinderYourGeneral]

Seth you gotta play your commander!! Haha I have a Dragonlord Ojutai deck made of only cards I've played in standard except lands and a couple mana rocks. She is such a blast to play.

[@MagicAlfi]

I wish there were more matches like this ^^

[@zazinjozaza6193]

what a great episode, good job guys

[@crayyonnyadrav4055]

The most impressive thing was just that altered Mana Tithe. The priorities here have been laid out clear and loud.

[@alcxander]

this was amazing, laughed so much

[@Keos027]

Imo that's the best magic, interacting with your opponents. I'm curious to know how long was the unedited game.

[@thegreatestblood]

Had to look up how many cards started with the word "Teferi" in the decklists. There are 15. Seems like cards with his name might be a good include in control match ups.

[@brighamschellinger147]

Got to give it to Richard. He practices what he preaches.

[@nathanpalmiter3260]

That was a cool win though

[@ComfyDents]

52:25 Since when does Ondu Inversion destroy the indestructible One Ring?

[@jessegalvin1187]

Mad respects to Crim for the Menzingers shirt!

[@Akagami_98]

I’m surprised myself at how much more enjoyable those “live” games have been for me. Glad you guys keep playing this way

[@williamscerbo458]

Control mirrors are some of my favorite 1v1 games to play. Curious how this plays out in 4 player.

[@Skylersuzy]

Fantastic content guys

[@_claymore]

"[you] tap your lands in different directions? disgusting.." - Phil, and he's goddamn right about it

[@oafkad]

Richard tricked me. I thought that Phil actually played Standstill.

[@JoshRudis]

On this week of "Punt or Bluff?" Begin, The Counterspell Wars has. Will Richard counter Seth's counterspell that targets his counterspell or will Crim activate his (mindbreak) trap card to clutch the win? Tune-in to find out!

[@urnow2986]

Seth has the real plan, get yourself eliminated first, This is a real War Games "The only winning move is not to play" kind of setup (Loved it to be clear)

[@LegitHarpyHunter]

Wild prediction during the intro, this ends with a man-land beatdown somehow.

[@whaleofdarkness]

Are you doing viewer submitted decks this season? Seems difficult with paper decks.

[@tomatojeff2174]

Listening to this I’m just thinking, wow they need more lands. The whole time lol. The amount of times they pass and discard is wild lol.

[@hanschristopherson8056]

Clash crew are you going to be doing more paper matches or a mix of paper and online for future seasons?

[@SirRyan420]

Wish you guys could show whats in your hands without revealing to each other obviously. It would probably be way more work to add in in post. A layout similiar to how cardmarket does it with the cards near your name and life total would be cool. Maybe you dudes don't do it so we can't call you out on your misplays as often 😂

[@LilRawly]

"Misery is on the menu" like every week

[@Civera89]

Finally, some real Pod Racing!

[@Razdasoldier]

No one played a commander that made their own spells uncounterable. Was this a gentleman's agreement?

[@lukecraig4984]

It would be interesting if for a season you don't have a ban list, but instead can only use one (not including basic lands) card once, so you can put sol ring in your deck, but once you do you can't make another deck with a sol ring for the rest of that season, etc.