MTH 20th Century Limited Streamlined Passenger Set (New York Central)

A review of MTH's latest New York Central 20th Century Limited Streamlined Passenger Set, lead by the famous 4-6-4 Dreyfuss Hudson

[@nikerailfanningttm9046]

It’s hard to believe that the station I go to in Chicago when I ride my Rock Island Metra was once served by one of the most famous NYC Named Trains: The 20th Century Limited.

[@fishxy2123]

26:02 the best whistle ever BFIMO

[@PetersTrainz]

If one Dreyfuss Hudson was preserved and restored, I bet it would be part of Norfolk Southern's 21st Century Steam program.

[@RogueRail]

That's what I was thinking too. I mean there's already a PRR T1 Trust rebuilding a T1, why not a trust rebuilding a streamlined J3a Hudson?@@soundwavesuguremashita1608

[@robertnielsen2461]

Nostalgia always has a place especially here .Sadly not one J class Hudson was saved as you know,so much for NYCs

[@robertnielsen2461]

Oops!so much for NYC management attitude at the time.

[@danieldoesdumbstuff]

They're rebuilding a T1 from scratch they should've built this one first

[@daveb1081]

I really wish they would have saved one of these, they are absolutely beautiful, kinda like that girl u want but shes outta ur league 😂😂

[@TobyPasman]

The whistle on this engine is my favorite MTH whistle.

[@danieldoesdumbstuff]

It's almost a horn. It's NOICE

[@ArnavKhode]

I’ve heard it before on the toytrains1 channel

[@NERRP2017]

My grandfather’s UPRR challenger has the same Whistle It’s off a NP Z8 challenger

[@lostonessoul8435]

I love this thing to death. Literally this engine was the most amazing thing! Like Eric said you got the red carpet treatment on this engine. Fin China, a amazing view, spectacular food and all of it in fith teen hours. I honestly believe that we need this baby back and on the rails again.

[@hectorsproductions2018]

26:41 I like the quilling whistle better than the standard whistle

[@coolcatTF2]

Agreed

[@SwindellSteamWorks]

Beautiful set. If you get the Lionel Empire State set, I think for the running session, you should pace the two since they were the crack trains of NYC.

[@bobbyanderson9633]

Thats one of my all time favorites !!!

[@colinmcgovern6302]

+Bobby Anderson Me To!!!!!🚂🚃🚃

[@zachwheeler9846]

What a magnificent looking set, the engine looks so cool and I agree with you on the tender it looks really cool and PFA sequences are great. I can't believe how much you get the passenger cars for only $100 more then the engine what a great deal. Great review Eric!

[@kingslinpaul408]

One of my most favorite engine. Eric.

[@byates59]

FANTASTIC review Eric!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It looks like MTH did a great job with this set, love the whistle! Thanks for the video bud and have a great one!

[@Ericstrains]

Bill Yates Thanks bud!

[@Maximilian7992]

+ericstrains did you know that they called the NewYork centrals ghosts of the rails

[@Maximilian7992]

+ericstrains did you know that the NewYork Centrals were called ghosts of the rails

[@Maxmellow94]

they did why?

[@Maximilian7992]

***** it says why in the song "New York central ghosts of the rails"

[@mrblue028]

One of the most detailed and well done videos I have ever seen on here. Such a beautiful set. I’m sorry I was late to the show and missed this set in 2014. I’m keeping an eye out on the auction sites since all the big train stores are all sold out.

[@garyjust.johnson1436]

This is a beautiful locomotive and the matching passenger cars are awesome! Great video, great content!

[@r0ckstarisaghostlmao]

My favorite whistle of all!

[@r0ckstarisaghostlmao]

26:02

[@hbsteve7724]

Fantastic video; 20th Century was such an icon and realism on the Mth is awesome!! Thanks so much for posting this. :-)

[@thenorgalofthehills5688]

I've often considered building another streamlined Hudson when I get older. If I get enough money and Investors, It could work. If the British can build another Peppercorn from Scratch, We can surely build a Hudson from Scratch too. If there was a Hudson that was saved from Scrap and restored, I could have seen it Double Heading with N&W 611. They are both Iconic examples of Streamline.

[@That_One_Guy_In_A_Band]

I've often dreamed of rebuilding a Milwaukee Road F7 Baltic, like the engines that used to pull the Hiawatha. 4-6-4s are just wonderful, aren't they?

[@bigharryyy03]

If someone were to add streamlining to Santa Fe 3463, the Blue Goose could make a return.

[@railfanjackson4531]

If I were to have the money, resources, and support, I'd rebuild an EM-1.

[@bigharryyy03]

My favorite streamliner is already preserved, but it would have been nice if Aeolus had kept its shrouding. I'd also love to have seen a MILW F7, a CNW E4, a NYC J3a, the Blue Goose, the Southern Tennessean, a N&W K12, and also MILW class A Atlantic.

[@chrisiyo_2017]

This Locomotive is the real life Connor from Thomas and Friends.

[@averagebetaalanineuser]

ChrisiYo _ no shit

[@colinmcgovern6302]

Eric, This is an express engine. RUN IT FAST!!

[@coadjacob]

He is making it go fast

[@popcorncolonel726]

It’s a freight train, disguised as a passenger train

[@trainfan06]

He can do whatever he wants with it it’s his not your plus he was anyway you don’t make it go 70 through a station

[@NS-hw5wz]

20th Century Limited Productions the Hudson was a mainly freight locomotive they just put streamlined parts on it

[@up844productions8]

@@NS-hw5wza Hudson is a larger pacific passenger engine it just had a freight version with smaller drivers and no streamlining so the NYC was using it for its intended purpose

[@darkn1nja298]

Eric you did a great job reviewing this beautiful train keep up the great work!

[@nick044]

When you said that your dad had a postwar lionel train it made me think of my grandfather.He had a vintage lionel postwar 646 hudson and I love it.

[@michaeljacksonfanmade87]

Some one needs to make this train a starter set

[@michaeljacksonfanmade87]

@Jonah's Trains I hope your feeling is right

[@The20thCenturyLimited]

One of my most favorite engine and set!

[@robertnielsen2461]

Noma was at one time a big name in Christmas lights and other decorative items for the season,among its product line.

[@JMANART]

That steam engine is so butiful. I am ordering it right now.

[@realdavidii]

You mean "beautiful"

[@highoctanegames]

I hope you enjoyed it :)

[@joshmontemayor1212]

On the bright side, the Santa Fe 3751, Norfolk & Western 611, & Southern Pacific Daylight are still around today.

[@joshmontemayor1212]

@Nathaniel Cruz, Union Pacific Big Boy 4014 is back in action.

[@joshmontemayor1212]

@Nathaniel Cruz, yes.

[@evankoren]

Just imagine if you could take off the streamlining! Just amazing!

[@zhackiethedog]

Yeah

[@TheBNSFengineer]

I showed this video to one of my friends and she said the whistle sounded like a lions roar!

[@Shipwright1918]

Ought to take a leaf out of the book of the British and build a new streamlined J3a from scratch like was done with the Peppercorn A1 Class 4-6-2 "Tornado". It'd just be a matter of getting up the money, acquiring a suitable workshop and all the machinery to make the parts (or have companies that can do so build the parts you couldn't make in-house), then putting the thing together. Like Tornado, a new J3a could have small adjustments made to its design to help it fit in with the modern railroad, but still be faithful to the original locomotives. It's time we started building a new steamer of our own, and I have to admit seeing a J3a going like the wind with a passenger train would be a grand sight.

[@tyrannotitanentertainment7579]

Shipwright1918 Aren't there programs that aim to do such?

[@Shipwright1918]

+TorvosaurusImperator To my knowledge, there is a group that's making a Pennsy T-1 duplex, but no J-3a's yet.

[@oologahnorthernrailroad8873]

Very nice with another video from Eric keep up the good work

[@The20thCenturyLimited]

Oologah Northern Railroad yeet

[@jamesf791]

Just bought this engine... now need to work on the rest of the passenger cars. This is the only NY Central I wanted.

[@paulm.gilbert1096]

Two things Erik, 1) the Genesee River runs smack dab through my home town of Rochester New York. 2) love the way the locomotive blows smoke rings from the exhaust. That is so cool.

[@HookLineSinker4343]

Beautiful, just beautiful !! Great smoke & whistle. ;)

[@buddyboy1953]

Great video !!! Thank you. I read there is a Hudson, Locomotive somewhere in Penn. It just might be located near Scranton,Pa. Now that would be something to see on the tracks.

[@TonyLasagna]

This thing never gets old.

[@shnimmuc]

I agree with you on the best feature. Truly beautiful set. Thanks for the review. Robert

[@EdWhizAviationTrains]

I really love this Locomotive , great presentation - I Liked & Subscribed 👍😎

[@likosjo]

Beautiful pass. train set, I always enjoy your well documented videos, please, continue the same way.

[@SteamKing2160]

The 20th Century Limited back in the mid 30's had Pullman Heavyweight coaches and was pulled by a NYC Commodore Vanderbilt.

[@Chessie1985]

Great review and beauitful set Eric!

[@kylewolfe305]

Beautiful, just beautiful 👍

[@nathanielcruz6675]

In case, you didn't know, the 20th Century Limited was the New York Central's flagship train.

[@Nscaleguy1]

$50? Oh if only time travel was possible....

[@ANTONIOZILLA]

50 DOLLA!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!!??!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

[@40belowful]

+The Diamond Tree films // tone does it \\ 50.00 dollars for a train ride was a lot in 1928. If you had $20,000 in bank you were considered a rich person.

[@vicdoesgaming7570]

20,000 is 244,500$

[@lucasfontenot6128]

If it was $50 then in the next 10 years it will probably cost $20, 000 Just like bitcoin

[@keithm5224]

That's about $750 in today's money

[@jbtrains]

You should make a huge passenger station some time soon it's just a suggestion I know you like your whole it's my railway I can do whatever I want but you should take that in mind one day

[@polarjet1833]

I’ve always imagined the fireman on the locomotives without drop plates chucking chunks of coal like a baseball into the firebox

[@nickdeluna8681]

Nice standard whistle sound effect! Love the locomotive to.

[@Steven_Williams]

Another great review for a very handsome set. Also loved your back story to the NYC as well. I'm always interested in railroads that come to or near the Chicagoland area. Thanks for sharing.

[@timmyblox8331]

My personal favourite feature was the front coupler panel now that's detail

[@1940limited]

I had one of those Noma stations. It was a nice piece. I'd had it since the early 50s. I sold it many years ago when I went to HO. Now I'm back into O-gauge and wish I still had it although the MTH station I have in many ways is head and shoulders above the old Noma station.

[@1stPCFerret]

What a beauty!

[@WesleyHarcourtSTEAMandMORE]

Definitely like these MTH locomotives Lionel is always so cheezy for the price. Amazing what a famous name gets you.

[@walter93253]

Thank you this is one of my favorites!

[@struck2soon]

Great job on the review. I am sure the "crew talk" feature must be one of the more controversial points: my personal feeling is that if the "talk" were a bit more authentic, it would be more acceptable. Imagine actually telling the fireman how to do his job down to the last detail? A pair of black eyes for the engineer would probably follow shortly afterwards.

[@TobyPasman]

I love the whistle on this engine.

[@zarinarahman356]

That's a pretty awesome engine!

[@Maximilian7992]

I haven't seen this review but I already like it

[@oscartobaroatmeal6734]

Same here, I wish there was a Dreyfuss Hudson out there!

[@brettboyer4655]

Yes MTH makes shorter drawbars for Proto Sound 3.0 steam locomotives. There are two different sets, they each have three in each. One has drawbars 25, 30, and 45mm lengths (#20-89020), and the other with 30, 35, and 50mm lengths (#20-89021).

[@redbuzzardbass]

This got me thinking, I couldn't find the MTH cars on their own, but did find the Lionel aluminum car for a great price, I think 300 new for the set, the colors are bit different, but they go great with a greyhound Challenger.

[@TranscontinentalRailfan]

The set looks fantastic!

[@mrcubeandsphere9138]

Great review for a great engine. Love the video.

[@TDIMAXDIESEL]

Beautiful engine ! The wheels are cool !

[@johnnyjames7139]

The red carpet for boarding passengers was suggested to NYC by Roxy Rothapfel as in Roxy theatre.

[@aidenfleming7210]

Love your channel

[@EduSanjuan777]

what a beauty

[@colinmcgovern6302]

I LOVE STREAMLINED TRAINS. MY FAVORITE IS THE J-3 HUDSON! AND I CAN UNDER STAND WHY THE TWENIETH CENTURY IS SUCH A FAMOUS TRAIN, I LOVE IT!!!!

[@maybeezra568]

My fav is the torpedo.

[@colinmcgovern6302]

+Jonah Mitchell that's a nice engine to

[@zacharykoplin6543]

I love this train so much I’m going to make the entire 9 part consist out of Lego! To minifigure scale!

[@Porschedude8]

"Stellar"! Thanks Eric!!

[@rexsmith6431]

do you know or have anything on the Silverton train? if so I would like to know

[@haronorthconneris8098]

Now that’s a streamliner!!!

[@noahbloom2300]

May I remind you they did not have to go to tender a lot if the engine has an auger in the tender

[@SouthernerFloridain2006]

That whistle is on the Southern Ms mikado Porto Sound 2.0

[@chrisbenson6545]

There is a twentieth century limited at the nashanal New York central museum in Elkhart with a steam loco

[@spuds6423]

Did they ever do a release of p, T, and S Motors that were used to haul the 20th Century LTD from Grand Central Terminal to Croton-Harmon on the 33.2 mile long electrified Section?? Now that would be cool to model the whole operation!!😁😢

[@zombiedropper1013]

you don't run your streamliners at a realistic express style speed, which is understandable but I think it was really kinda meant to have that speed

[@HighballHenry]

My parents named me after the Hudson locomotive. That is why my name is Hudson

[@NOVARailandWeatherEnthusiast]

Bro that’s awesome I wanna do that 😂

[@colinogden7265]

Eric, great review. There is a drawbar kit for proto 3 locomotives available. I found it not too long after I got my railking big boy. The gap was unbearable.

[@CPL.Hiroto]

Wow fantastic steam locomotive, I rly wanna get it

[@NinjagoGuy416]

Would an MTH model like this be compatible with Lionel’s Legacy or TMCC control systems or vice versa? I’m thinking of getting into this hobby and am trying to learn everything I can.

[@WhiteCamry]

Nice smoke rings.

[@vijayalakshmipandian6169]

Santa is getting the set from my and your favorite train Legacy Station.

[@vijayalakshmipandian6169]

When you reviewed the Erie Triplex you said “If it was MTH It’s best to wait until later when we do the PFA”

[@brianrigsby7900]

What’s the purpose of the middle rail? Is there a hidden set of wheels under the engine?

[@maxwelled]

Eric, I love your reviews! A quick note, the mail hook on the baggage car is backward, I am unsure if it is reversible or not. Or you ,any have to flip the car about. The open part of the hook faces forward.

[@KuddlesbergTheFirst]

There were steam locomotives that could exceed 110-150+ mph but the tracks were not designed for that at the time

[@get2dachoppa249]

Since it was brought up but not fully addressed, $50 in 1920 is $630 in today's dollars.

[@fernandorangelpinheiro2544]

wonderful

[@wkjeeping9053]

This is the best detail of my fave steam loco. I would agree it needs a shorter draw bar. Doesn't look right that big of gap. Real coal in the tender I doubt that.

[@Ericstrains]

It is real coal. Little tiny pieces of real coal.

[@NinjagoGuy416]

Here's what I'd like to know: how did they get past the streamlined shrouding at the front to get at and clean out the smokebox every day?

[@maxrailroad]

Great review!

[@chugwaterjack4458]

22:10 The mail hook is backwards. Is it rigged properly on the left side of the car? Later: 29:28 same thing on the left side. Answer: turn the car around.

[@Ericstrains]

That was done purpose. Its European.

[@christophereaves862]

Would you do a video on track pans ?

[@EssDee40]

I would’ve enjoyed seeing a scene of the train switching over from electric to steam

[@allegheny48]

Thanks for another great review, Eric. The history portion was right on. MTH does offer a drawbar kit for Proto-Sound 3.0. One is 20-89021 and I believe there is another kit with different drawbar lengths. I am also wondering if there is a difference in the pin arrangement between 2.0 and 3.0. Are they both 6 pin? If you want to see how the Dreyfuss Hudson looked after the shrouds were removed and the pedestal bed tenders were applied check out Sunset Models 3rd Rail's Boneyard section. Scroll down to see J3A Hudson 5451.

[@trainlover9943]

No there not the same, the PS2 ones are 6 pin the PS3s are 4 pin.

[@allegheny48]

***** You are correct Matt, they are not the same but the pin arrangement is different from what you stated. I have 2 recently purchased drawbar sets (20-89021) for Proto 3.0 and they are both 6 pin. My MTH 20-3411 NYC L4b Mohawk, cab #3144 with Proto 2.0, has a wireless drawbar with 10 pins. General Search | MTH ELECTRIC TRAINS

[@trainlover9943]

+allegheny48 Funny you should mention the NYC Mohawk, We have one #3011

[@atomicmik69]

Way do you have the baggage car backwards? The way you have it the mail hook could never work, the train would have to be going in reverse.

[@joedacunza]

The mail hook is not facing in the correct direction, the open end faces the the mail crane

[@AltonRouteRailfan]

I just like watching to always know I will never get

[@brianrigsby7900]

2 questions: is your place wheelchair friendly, and where r u?

[@6709ify]

This is a cool train. I can't decide if I'll buy this or the Empire State Express version. Both are super nice.

[@trainlover9943]

We have both.

[@6709ify]

***** You're so lucky. But I already made a gigantic model train locomotive list and only have room on my list for one more passenger steam train. I think I'm gonna have to go with the black & white Empire State Express version. That's just my favorite look, personally. I'll ask MTH to make a new Premier Line rendition in the future.

[@trainlover9943]

+Taylor Williams I almost think that's the only way MTH will make the ESE set again, is by request.

[@6709ify]

***** Welp, I'd better get on MTH and send them an email saying I want that train. See why I love MTH so much? They listen to what their customers want. My train collection will be complete in no time with a company like MTH out there.

[@trainlover9943]

Taylor Williams Yes I would do that. Yeah MTH Does listen to what customers want which is very nice.

[@DansTrainsDanielBrownell]

So cool!

[@thebruces5973]

I watched your webcams and I couldn't find out what your were reviewing

[@Maximilian7992]

i know i commented on this before but i looked at the one with 14 wheeled tender and it doesn't seem very streamlined like this one