A review of the MTH 3-Rail O-Scale Union Pacific 4-8-4 FEF-3 Northern Freight Set. Model number 20-3536-1. More videos on my youtube channel and at www.ericstrains.com
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@PghTrainFanatic9 жыл бұрын
Very nice set Eric, however mth needs a major overhaul with the sound and control systems they're using. It's about to be 2016 soon, and their trains sound like they are from the 90's still.
@Ericstrains9 жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@PghTrainFanatic9 жыл бұрын
It's made me decide to cancel 2 premier sets in the last couple months. I'd rather wait til Lionel makes it if I'm spending that kind of money. I'm sure you agree. Hopefully the mth's guys read this and get the point. Loosing business
@Ericstrains9 жыл бұрын
+PghTrainFanatic I think their plan is to eventually ditch the physical DCS remote control in favor of the smartphone app control, and I can see the logic behind that. I don't know for a fact that's what their plan is, but that would be my guess. It's a lot easier to make a control app and then update the app when needed than to manufacture physical controllers. App control would make new features and improvements so much easier and cost effective.
@PghTrainFanatic9 жыл бұрын
Yeah I agree with you. That app will make life better. Anymore smartphones run our lives lol 😂
@BigBerk7659 жыл бұрын
+PghTrainFanatic You know the old saying, my friend. "There's an app for that."
@SkipW8 жыл бұрын
Boss model but the sound cards are weak compared to the real thing.
@ConcordeStudios209 жыл бұрын
That's a very nice engine, exquisitely detailed and I love the sound in operation.
@SteamKing21608 жыл бұрын
The Union Pacific 4-8-2's (or FET just for fun but actual class description is MT which is an acronym for Mountain), started having power problems when the passenger trains started to get heavier and longer. So the Union Pacific story of upgrading the 4-8-2 to the FEF 4-8-4 is somewhat actually true.
@aidenfleming72105 жыл бұрын
What a beautiful locomotive 🚂🚂🚂🚂
@railroadguy1009 жыл бұрын
The real thing could thunder along the tracks. On the Northwest Doubleheader, the 844 was on the train with the SP 4449 and both seem to be amazing passenger engines, too. Great review on this engine, though. Very good train set, Eric.
@nathansearle9593 жыл бұрын
This is a beautiful Loco and I have one of these but in the greyhound paint scheme
@pjasyl9 жыл бұрын
Like the smoke output on this engine!
@mamanbear16679 жыл бұрын
Eric, great video as usual. Their Premier steam engines are excellent. I just got the passenger set version of this model. Good critique of the limited trilling whistle capability and the detailing is always excellent However, I wish that they would add lighted markers to the renders. There is no reason on a high end engine not to have it - particularly the FEF, Challenger, and Big Boy models. Keep up the good work.
@struck2soon9 жыл бұрын
Another great loco to add to your already impressive roster Eric. Do you ever think "so many locos, so little track!"?😀
@Chessie19859 жыл бұрын
Great review and sounds great to me Eric!
@Blougon8 жыл бұрын
I've watched extreme trains about the 844 in the past.
@kristalkat79394 жыл бұрын
Me too
@christinahartley2093 жыл бұрын
It's not 844 its 843
@JasontheFolf8 жыл бұрын
cool set Eric
@Rebecca_The_Dragon8 жыл бұрын
in my opinion, the quillable whistle sounds more like the prototype
@MPT_Productions7 жыл бұрын
5dmc1 really I like the normal whistle way better but we all can like different things
@keithm52249 жыл бұрын
A piece of the bottom right hinge on the reefer door is missing @18:25. Great review, Eric!
@jomama059 жыл бұрын
The problem with this version is that some of the details are incorrect. They used the 25,000 gallon challenger tender instead of the correct 23,500 gallon tender. 843 never had a feed water heater installed. And the headlights on the FEF's never had a bill on it like this one. Other wise it would be a good model
@patriciasgarza59389 жыл бұрын
is it me or do steam engines with smoke deflectors look awsome!
@shnimmuc9 жыл бұрын
Beautiful, I love the whistle. Great review. I think MTH is certainly a manufacturer of quality products. I have had far fewer problems with their locomotives than Lionel.
@oxolotleman72265 жыл бұрын
I need some of those reefers, they would look great with my s3
@BXGUY732 жыл бұрын
GOOD SUGGESTION and POINT you made about ADDING a PICK-UP ROLLER on the TENDER so it can get its own source of electric power. Hopefully, MTH would ADD that to this TRAIN model's TENDER to IMPROVE it a bit. Other than that it looks GREAT!!!
@santafepacifico-scaletrain62074 жыл бұрын
Hi Eric, I just bought the union pacific challenger #3985 and I haave not oiled it yet because I am affraied of getting it everywhere. Do you have any advice??
@1940limited8 жыл бұрын
Can you tell me what you use t make your roads and grade crossings. It looks very realistic. I also like you abandoned section of track at the portal of one of your tunnels. Great detail. I'd like to see more of that.
@sleeves_rail_archives9 жыл бұрын
Awesome review! The FEF-3 is probably my favorite steam locomotives of all time and I'm glad you bought this set with the PFE Reefers! I'm also thrilled you ordered Lionel's version of the 844! Great video Eric! Sean
@sleeves_rail_archives9 жыл бұрын
You also nailed the history about the FEF series of engines. That surprised me the most that you knew so much of the FEFs!
@BXGUY732 жыл бұрын
Possibly the best UNION PACIFIC & comparable to the LIONEL FEF U.P. #844
@sdiv_tim9 жыл бұрын
I can't even hear the Whistle on that thing because the engine sounds sound so similar to it.
@byates599 жыл бұрын
EXCELLENT review as always Eric! It looks like MTH did a great job on the FEF, it looks, sounds and smokes great! However, you know me, I typically get the Lionel version and while we are speaking about the Lionel version LOL, did you order the black or greyhound 844? Anyways, thanks for the video bud and have a great Sunday!
@Ericstrains9 жыл бұрын
I ordered the black
@trainroomgary9 жыл бұрын
+ericstrains Looks great / historic steam power. • Cheers from The Detroit & Mackinac Railway 🚂
@BXGUY732 жыл бұрын
@ERIC's Trains - I was going back and forth between the LIONEL-VISION LINE #844 UNION PACIFIC FEF and the MTH #843 UNION PACIFIC FEF. I noticed only 3 differences; LIONEL VISION-Line #844 has a Whistle Smoke Effect and the MTH #843 U.P. does not. And the MTH U.P. #843 HAS a "drop plate" and LIONEL Vision-Line does NOT. Other than those 2 differences, the last one I noticed was the big PRICE $$$ DIFFERENCE between the MTH U.P. and the LIONEL VISION-Line U.P. Are there any other differences between these 2 UNION PACIFIC model Steam Engines that I may be missing? (You are the expert and you also have them both).
@garyruark95063 жыл бұрын
I have the same engine and the cab illumination never works under any circumstance. Otherwise, I love it.
@erikasanchez30345 жыл бұрын
I know that the up 844 teams up with the big boy locomotive sometimes.
@Oat_meal_YT9 жыл бұрын
good review, plus eric I finally found a store, that actually sale lionel and mth toy trains. now I don't have to ask Santa for one
@Oat_meal_YT9 жыл бұрын
near my house
@HokkaidoCEngineGalaxyExpressTh3 жыл бұрын
814 fef 1 i think fef 2 is in Wyoming
@mariebcfhs94914 жыл бұрын
This loco whistle sounds like the death whistle, I'd definitely crap my pants if this come towards me during the night 😂
@maxrailroad9 жыл бұрын
Awesome review Eric! Once you get the Lionel 844, please double head it with your challenger!
@Blueblur19879 жыл бұрын
Well the love the look of UP 843, the Union Pacific/Southern Pacific Reefer cars, and the UPP 24567 caboose I wish I had the money to buy this set. And here is some facts the UPP 24567 prototype caboose that came with your MTH set is based after an actual piece of former Union Pacific Steam rolling stock since Union Pacific traded UPP 24567 (Bay Window caboose) along with SD40-2c locomotive UP #3105 and insulated boxcar UP #453665 for UPP Big Boy #4014 from the Rail Giants Museum in Pomona, California back in 2014.
@brockfitzgerald71937 жыл бұрын
did you make that LED light?
@MPT_Productions7 жыл бұрын
Brock Fitzgerald no all MTH and Lionel engines use LEDs in all their lights
@bensommer45299 жыл бұрын
Crew talk on all MTH steam engines sound the same. So boring!
@MPT_Productions7 жыл бұрын
SanteFe3751Fan no they are not Lionel are fun to use but not with MTH
@MPT_Productions7 жыл бұрын
SanteFe3751Fan they sound the same because they are not going to use a different one for each engine because that would be so much money
@MPT_Productions7 жыл бұрын
SanteFe3751Fan I am saying sounds
@MPT_Productions7 жыл бұрын
SanteFe3751Fan cool. (Sarcasm) but they use the same sound sets. The quality and whistle bell and chuffing don't sound good
@conradmoestl8297 жыл бұрын
Ben Sommer also did these trains actually have radios back in the day?
@rhettrobinson1361 Жыл бұрын
27:24 What? The FEF's didn't have airhorns!
@nikerailfanningttm9046 Жыл бұрын
I’ve got the PS3 844 in greyhound and the front pilot of 838. And yes I mean the physical front pilot of the Premier 838, not the entire engine.
@Ericstrains Жыл бұрын
Nice!
@trainlover99439 жыл бұрын
Great review and set, Eric! Love the whistle on that engine, it sounds great! Although the quillable whistle is a carryover from the Challenger MTH came out with a few years ago it still sounds OK. Thanks for the video and have a great one!
@jamesmark7829 жыл бұрын
I see Lionel is offering an FEF-3 in their 2015 volume 2 Built-To-Order. Also offering E-7's and GP-9's (?!) the same way. Another manufacturer canceled production of my SW-900's due to insufficient orders more than a year after they were first offered. Thought manufacturing was becoming more agile. Don't think this bodes well for the hobby.
@Trainmaster9097 жыл бұрын
Mth needs to improve their sound quality in their engines. There is no bass. The S1 MTH did had great sound and was perfect so why can't they do it again. On Railking engines this is fine but when you are spending over $1000 you should expect every aspect of the loco to be perfect. MTH with the sound and Lionel's lack of effort on some of their diesels and including the Vision line diesels in some models. You just can't win sometimes.
@Oskar-js6iv8 жыл бұрын
Can i connect Lionel and MTH Trains/Cars together?
@bigharryyy036 жыл бұрын
You can connect any 3-Rail O-Scale engines or rolling stock together.
@rockyfanatic68465 жыл бұрын
Does 844 have a horn
@mumumaaaah9 жыл бұрын
how many steam trains will you collect
@bxjibaro732 жыл бұрын
Awesome train, and the price is reasonable compared to other sets with a 4-8-4 Union Pacific Northern Engine. The drop plate is a very much needed detail for added accuracy.
@stevenmichael28459 жыл бұрын
Looks very nice, I see MTH is finally blackening their springs! I like your new crossing BTW...
@rapper85219 жыл бұрын
For an entry level hobbiest, what Locomotive would you suggest? My father used to have a nice O scale set. And spent alot of money on it. And I just had a son, and want to begin a set on my own.
@burntoutonbuicks71609 жыл бұрын
WOULD U PLEASE DOUBLE HEAD THE 844 AND THE 843 WHEN UGET IT WITH UP PASSENGER CSRS opps left caps on
@brookewilsonclemons79754 жыл бұрын
844 is double heading with big boy 4014 which is restored and I went to see just the big boy , in Clinton,Iowa .
@ChrisNIN649 жыл бұрын
When you get the 844 set, it would be interesting to do a side-by-side comparison between MTH and Lionel's FEF's to see the differences.
@MMID3039 жыл бұрын
Nice set. I wish they would improve the crew talk on their steam engines. Their diesel crew talk is usually much more realistic.
@westvirginiarailproductions8 жыл бұрын
I love your videos and layout so much but it would be nice if you could add a the Lionel version of the UP #3985. I have one myself and its awesome!
@Steven_Williams9 жыл бұрын
Great review Eric! Very handsome engine, and the refrigeration cars are tight! And as always, thanks for the brief backstory!
@NinjagoGuy4163 жыл бұрын
I always have wondered what 844 would look like without her iconic smoke deflectors 🤔
@MYSUPERBOAT9 жыл бұрын
Nice review Eric ! I have the Proto 2 version of this engine runs and sound great as well ! As you did I ordered the Lionel FEF ! Thanks for the awesome video
@cordellbailey5757 жыл бұрын
Mr. Eric's trains I built a union pacific steam turbine in ho scale and its on KZbin its on baileys junction and just put a smoke unit in it
@BXGUY732 жыл бұрын
I agree this is a good set for the price.
@rickpalo19 жыл бұрын
As usual, a great review! Very entertaining great video, you really cover all bases. Thank you.
@mrMATTHEWmay8879 жыл бұрын
that fef -3 look better if paint the bearing caps sliver it will bring out more detail i think anyway
@Bodonzky6 жыл бұрын
Eric I know I’m saying this way to late, but I have a Lionel Penn Central SD70, and I’m only 10.
@vijayalakshmipandian61696 жыл бұрын
The Quilling Whistle almost sounds like MTH big boy
@LNERMALLARD44688 жыл бұрын
Why does it have the Mars light when it is not on passenger duty?
@Bigtitan56PA9 жыл бұрын
I run all MTH engines, I too wish MTH would upgrade the sound sets. its not that hard!
@SteamKing21609 жыл бұрын
I wonder why 0-72 looks like a 0-54 series engine.
@bigharryyy039 жыл бұрын
MTH has made a mistake. The FEF-3's had all-weather cabs, but this model's cab is open.
@Patrick_37519 жыл бұрын
+harizonwrlss The FEF's had doors inside the cab that allowed them to be either open or all-weather. MTH pretty much made this model's cab in the same way except they didn't add the doors.
@judahrice9 жыл бұрын
You should get your 844 in the two tone grey w/the yellow stripe
@Woodyboy488 жыл бұрын
I like trains crash!!!!! Anyone know that one?
@mattwalden40207 жыл бұрын
What about a comparison between the 843 and the 844 ?
@scoobs25116 жыл бұрын
844 wasn’t ever retired
@PeterCPRail87489 жыл бұрын
Great set Eric. Another great review.
@hardflipsal39779 жыл бұрын
Love the layout Eric, great review as well. I hope to have a layout as big as yours one day!
@gregbrown15579 жыл бұрын
I really like that you give a history lessons when showing your trains and layout
@oologahnorthernrailroad88739 жыл бұрын
I don't know how you do it Eric, you got outstandin reviews
@erkish54449 жыл бұрын
Hey, Eric, great review . I love this engine and keep up the good work.
@wysoserius9 жыл бұрын
I wish Lionel would do a Vision Line version of this class locomotive
@bensommer45299 жыл бұрын
Lionel crew talk is MUCH better
@brok3nD1am0nd457 жыл бұрын
The difference between MTH's 843 and Lionel's 844 is the number, and the dialogue. Anyway, great review Eric!
@brok3nD1am0nd457 жыл бұрын
And I forgot about some paint detail on the pistons, and the trailing truck
@Woodyboy488 жыл бұрын
What did the train say to the other train say??!?
@steamerstudios13534 жыл бұрын
Werid fef-3
@andrewsharkey82489 жыл бұрын
what is your favorite rail name?
@brdtrd699 жыл бұрын
Hey Eric how much 💰 is that set
@austinniederjohn98139 жыл бұрын
that tender type is known as "centipede"
@oxolotleman72265 жыл бұрын
My favorite part of the set was the reefers
@ax2bxc7 жыл бұрын
The tender doesnt have the bearings
@saraveldman70349 жыл бұрын
do a review of the lionel o gauge 6-8-6 turbine steam locomotive
@jerseycentral8339 жыл бұрын
He did do that. A while back.
@robertdrake55028 жыл бұрын
what did it cost
@Mildcat7439 жыл бұрын
Is the mars light functional, Eric?
@findpeoplesearch94789 жыл бұрын
+Lucas Hagg Watch the entire video and you will have your answer. :)
@BigBerk7659 жыл бұрын
I thought about getting this locomotive; the passenger version, but I'm glad I didn't. The passenger steamer that I really wanted was the new Premier Line Nickel Plate Road S-2 2-8-4 Berkshire. And I'm gonna save a spot on my railroad for another passenger steamer that I'm dying to get my hands on, the Canadian Pacific 4-6-4 Royal Hudson & the matching passenger cars for it. The only freight steamers I'll be getting will be the new U.P. 4-8-8-4 Big Boy, N&W 2-6-6-4 Class A, and a new Great Northern 0-4-0 A-5 Switcher. All MTH locomotives, by the way. I'm not the biggest Lionel fan. But that's just my personal preference. I've had MTH trains all my life and I've loved them since I was little. Just my model train company of choice.
@byates599 жыл бұрын
+Taylor Williams You've got Ford guys and you've got Chevy guys LOL So I know what you mean brother! For me Lionel is my train company of choice! Have a great one Taylor!
@BigBerk7659 жыл бұрын
+Bill Yates Thank you. You have a good one as well.
@The20thCenturyLimited9 жыл бұрын
+Bill Yates exactly the same lol
@knowinpear32409 жыл бұрын
eric buy a 4k camera
@Jimboliah39859 жыл бұрын
Wait, the smoke box door doesn't open?
@Ericstrains9 жыл бұрын
Not on MTH steam engines.
@Jimboliah39859 жыл бұрын
Ow. :/
@trainlover99439 жыл бұрын
+ericstrains On the older PS2 version of this engine the Smokebox door opens.
@allegheny489 жыл бұрын
+Jim van der Kolk I have the recently released MTH NYC Niagara (Proto 3.0) and the smoke box door also does not open as opposed to the Proto 2.0 version that did). I am pretty sure the reason why is that they are now using LED headlight bulbs and those should never need changing. Hence, less operating parts resulting in a cost savings of sorts?
@channelforkids87658 жыл бұрын
good
@iurimoreira11338 жыл бұрын
fdd
@nutanpatil40759 жыл бұрын
beautiful set
@tinafan10108 жыл бұрын
When will you be getting the 844??
@Ericstrains8 жыл бұрын
Already did. Follow me on facebook and you'll know when stuff comes in.
@railroadwolf61129 жыл бұрын
Awesome
@SidsTrains8 жыл бұрын
Why do you say so called wireless tether.
@findpeoplesearch94788 жыл бұрын
+Sidney Flumbaum Because they like to call it "wireless", but it does actually have a printed circuit board on it that carries information between the engine and the tender. So it's not 100% truly wireless. It just doesn't have highly visible wires.
@SidsTrains8 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@g87797 жыл бұрын
does MTH still sell this one and 844?
@jpotts1515gaming6 жыл бұрын
g8779 Just bought this exact set for $1279 at my local MTH Dealer. You should call yours and see if they have a set. This engine is my favorite and that includes 15 premiere steamers including a MTH DAP Big Boy.
@rapper85219 жыл бұрын
Do you have a round about figure of money invested into your model train hobby?
@Ericstrains9 жыл бұрын
About 20 dollars.
@rapper85219 жыл бұрын
+ericstrains you have a very nice layout, and amazing information. Very impressed.
@MPT_Productions7 жыл бұрын
ericstrains lol 😂
@brendaneckhart93769 жыл бұрын
Hello Eric, I have a request for you, I think a lot of us would like to see a locomotive roster of all of your engines, so please keep that in mind if you read this. Brendan
@Ericstrains9 жыл бұрын
+Brendan Eckhart I'm already working on that.
@fusionmakeseverything78909 жыл бұрын
+ericstrains hey Eric I was wondering if you could do a reivew of the mth GP-30 south pisific I have it but im not shore of all the things it dose --from max--
@fusionmakeseverything78909 жыл бұрын
+Max Herold If you like or doint like the ideo please reply why I a ten
@fusionmakeseverything78909 жыл бұрын
+Max Herold also I encurge you to keep following your dreams it is your life you live it