I might have actually made that amplifier..as I was working for MTX here in Phoenix during this generation of Thunder production. Cheers, BigD!
@carltonmiller80865 жыл бұрын
You may know the answer to this question, but what's the difference between the black and gold X amps compared to the earlier black and red thunder amps? Especially the 2300 model.
@doddgarger68064 жыл бұрын
@@carltonmiller8086 the crossover that's all the thunder amps have a slightly better xover
@doddgarger68064 жыл бұрын
I had a single 15 in a slot 4cuft through a hole in the bed in a reg cab originally intended for 3 10w6s The 2300x was a monster and that setup did a 148db legal and 161db in the slot WITHOUT the big 3... 😁
@carltonmiller80864 жыл бұрын
Dodd Garger I have two working 2300x amps and one under repair. I have five fully functioning 150x’s and that’s the one I wish someone would put on the dyno because that’s a stout little amp. All together I must have close to thirty old MTX amps and the crazy thing is that I’ve never had one in my systems.
@23steph134 жыл бұрын
Was the thunder 4122 underrated? 2001-2002
@manfredschield97458 жыл бұрын
I just stumbled upon your show a few nights ago; now every night before i fall asleep i find myself watching your show. some of the amps you dyno i use to own the same models....some years back i had built a 50 speaker sound system in my Chevy Suburban. Over the years i faded away from it and even got rid of all my gear that i kick myself in the ass for....i had 32 amps in my collection back then...now i got this wild tick to build a 28 speaker set-up in the cab of my Chevy pick up...i've gotten back some of my old gear as well as some other gear that i have bought like a Phoenix Gold ZX475ti...your show helps inspire me back into a passion i should have never left in the first place...thank you....love your show BigDWizz
@wal8 жыл бұрын
Awesome, I really enjoy seeing these types of comments! I've been making videos about old school car audio on my channel now for over 7 years. It's not the most popular subject, but it's what I'm passionate about. It's cool when it brings back memories for other people who have let the flame subside (it never goes away). Thanks for watching and commenting
@barrettevans91825 жыл бұрын
I had two off these little beast in use between 2000 to 02 doing DB drags. Each pushing its own Jl 15w3. The .5ohm was very stable on this masterpiece of the cheaters. They would get hot but were extremely tough. I've still got one. Im considering breaking it out of retirement.
@jorgem508 жыл бұрын
I have an old mtx thunder 282 from 2005 and it still kicks ass!
@juantexas95610 жыл бұрын
Would really like to see you test a Mtx blue thunder pro 150x2 or a 300x2 like that test feo 50 watt amp nice
@remak3167 жыл бұрын
Came across your show a couple weeks ago looking for information on this amp and after watching your video realized why I loved this amp so much. Awesome video, awesome amp. thanks for the testing!
@iceman45ification110 жыл бұрын
Unthinkable powa!! Really put the Orion 225 HCCA to shame!
@wal10 жыл бұрын
Maybe 3rd of the 25x2 cheaters behind the Lanzar 50c and US Amps VLX-50. When you are good (Orion 225 HCCA), everyone is gunning for you and wants to best you...looks like ***** did that with the 225HO!
@iceman45ification110 жыл бұрын
And then some! Lol
@bahnspl10 жыл бұрын
Dereck BigDWiz My friend. You have a wonderful dyno.. Why don't you put it to use testing more new amps as well.. I understand people complain about this.. But it isn't that easy to get people to volunteer their vintage amp for a torture test....
@wal10 жыл бұрын
adam as I get at least 1-2 requests a day to test somebody's amp. That's cool, I understand everyone wants to know how much power their amp makes. I'd be the same way. Truth is, my channel is mainly devoted to OS car audio and I occasionally mix in some newer stuff. There's others with Dyno's that test mostly new stuff including Cody DroppinHz Johnson and Coleman Thedinger. I have a very limited amount of time each week to work with my hobby, so for now until I test all of my amps and the OS ones on my bucket list, most of my tests will be old amps.
@showtimeazpools8 жыл бұрын
MTX is the safest and best performing amp. PERIOD! A few of my friends were running PPI amps and gave me test unit, (fire) Orion amps were highly marketed(another fire). MTX amps are more stable at low Ohms.
@falc3024 жыл бұрын
MTX! This is old schoooooollll! I remember this one back in the early 90's, late 80's.
@LatavianMoore10 жыл бұрын
Love the OS MTX Thunder amps! Thanks for the video. I just dropped my 2150x to 2 ohms (not rated for) on a single 15 OS Rockford HX2 in my bug. Very impressive!
@wal10 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a sweet setup!
@carltonmiller80866 жыл бұрын
Subbin2 are you still running that set up and just how hard was it hittin.
@jlugk7896 жыл бұрын
I've got the Mtx Thunder 225ho black version,the white 225ho version and the Thunder 3200X. Love those amps. Got 2 new in the box Mtx Thunder 7000's to go with them whenever I do a old school setup.
@mrlastname30654 жыл бұрын
jlugk789 do u want 2 more 225ho s? 1 black 1 white available in bama
@HifiVega10 жыл бұрын
Great amp much harder to find than the orion 225 nowadays
@caseytbss6 жыл бұрын
Keep in mind that some of these tests the voltage is dropping pretty good..... in the certified especially. Great amps! Lube the pots on them!!!
@danielwarbucks24694 жыл бұрын
I always loved mtx they have always made there power i grew up on rf and mtx eclipse jl those were the brands to have
@wal4 жыл бұрын
Yeah boi
@abrahamdiaz14967 жыл бұрын
wow that clean i use to have same amp but it was 4000 series 4 channel was hting hard with only one channel love mtx
@stevenon56645 жыл бұрын
The only thing I remember about MTX. Is how they called BS on subwoofers that "claimed" to take more then 300 Watts of power. The owner, or some guy in charge. Stated this fact, in one of the car audio magazines, or Installation News.
@REPDAT5SIX25 жыл бұрын
I wish you can test a MTX THUNDER 801D & see what it do. Maybe you can tell me your guess.
@Carnage4883 жыл бұрын
Excellent video always. Any Dyno on mtx thunder 7801?
@wal3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and commenting!
@hectorortega91317 жыл бұрын
Big D, can you please test a Audison LRx 400 when you get a chance? Thank you..
@franksandlin89744 жыл бұрын
Big d, totally unrelated question. Do you know of anyone who may have knowledge or listings of factory car amps? With the amount produced there has to be some decent ones out there . And with you pull yards and cheap price I was curious about possible system build around them. Just to see what could be thrown together. Thanks.
@JAFO.3 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see this pitted against the Fry'n Orion 225HC
@littlejln2133 жыл бұрын
Hey big d, are termlabs accurate for. Measuring watts? I am about to buy something for spl and watts and I want the most accurate. Thanks in advance!
@philindeblance9 жыл бұрын
If you were to know or have to guess, what would the MTX 4300x put out @ 4Ohms ?
@mrlastname30654 жыл бұрын
UnknownHandle UnknownHandle my 4300x birth sheet showed 67wpc rms @12.5v
@jackoneill858510 жыл бұрын
you jam probes into the power wire and ground wire use a distrabution block or clip leads
@phoenixredd46168 жыл бұрын
I have a mtx 2300x gold amp I bought at a tobacco barn flea market in Wilson north Carolina for for 10$ ten bucks and play like a champ.I just don't know how the power rating
@Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix6 жыл бұрын
he tested a 2300 and got 860 watts certified bridged at 4 ohms! impressive
@blugotti1110 жыл бұрын
hey Dereck. do you have a manual for a mtx 275x amp or one with the same kinda control settings? I can't find a manual online anywhere. and the amp doesn't have any numbers on it to see where you're setting the eq and hz...thanks man!! David
@trucavalier10 жыл бұрын
100 thumbs up as usual love the vids!
@wal10 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and commenting...and the 100 thumbs up!
@Frietpan10 жыл бұрын
lol, When you see the dynoruns on smd channel with newer amps some dont hit their rating, or barely. Would this be just a higher power model with a diffrent sticker slapped on it? Or just rated VERY conservative?
@wal10 жыл бұрын
Many old school amps were rated at 12 or 12.5V, so their "actual" output in a car would be more as most factory charging systems can provide at least 13.5V (some up to 14.8V). That's the big difference here. There are not many high current 2ch amps still produced today, so it's hard to say how they might rate it.
@elspeedy10483 жыл бұрын
Do the mtx thunder 2300x in gold letting next
@peloteroification10 жыл бұрын
I was shitting bricks @ 1Ω
@benbradshawjr28563 жыл бұрын
MTX def made good amps with the thunder(all black) series.kinda reminds you of the fosgate punch 45,75,150 in a way..
@phatboytrex19762 ай бұрын
Same engineer, I believe
@JoshX910 жыл бұрын
Dereck BigDWiz Is there a possibility you could get in a PPi BK 1800 and test it would really love to know the numbers from that amp. Or maybe someone can send him one for testing
@wal10 жыл бұрын
Josh Ianneillo in the future, this is a possibility, but right now, I have many amps lined up to test. Most are old school plus a couple sent to me by manufacturers.
@JoshX910 жыл бұрын
Dereck BigDWiz Ok No problem. i am just very interested to see he numbers from that amp because i bought and for the money the guts look like they could do it
@littlejln2134 жыл бұрын
I thought I had heard that on one of your videos or in one of your posts somewhere.
@parkhillvargas8 жыл бұрын
ive always wondered about the tupe rf amps and their capabilities
@parkhillvargas8 жыл бұрын
type*
@terriancebatts32110 жыл бұрын
Has anyone tested the planet audio bb 2400.1???
@robertmccoy14663 жыл бұрын
Where can I find your contact information? I have a few units I would like to get tested.
@wal3 жыл бұрын
Go to my channel, about, contact
@stickboslightning10 жыл бұрын
Wow, I am constantly blown away by these old school amps. If i only knew what i had back when. Do you have any insight as to whether or not the new mtx amps perform as well, or at least to rated? I know the Rockford amps are pretty solid but I never hear about mtx. Thanks for the great videos big D.
@wal10 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure about the new MTX amps as I haven't tried any of them. Thanks for the comment.
@pimphandgamester10 жыл бұрын
MTX still under rates their amps, especially on the higher end lines, so does Rockford Fosgate, especially with their power series. But keep in mind the entire point of under rating is provide more headroom over what you're gain should be set to. So if you set the gains to a rated 600 watts and it actually does 728 watts. You would have 128 watts of headroom for things like bass boost but really the extra power is pretty much nothing in reality nor would likely perceive a difference than if it just did 600 watts flat. Older amps like these were also often put out a coloured sound. with higher peaks in the lows and highs....as a marketing tool for consumer comparisons with other brands, the peaks stood out more to them. Back in the day it also had something to do with competitions where you would be in say around the 600 watt class but the cheat is that the amp does more?? At least that's the way I understood it. Nowadays all of this is trivial. So long as the amps are 2006 CEA rated, you know it will do at least the rated power displayed. Plus most people don't even set gains correctly or use good wiring anyway, so they either don't get rated output or clip it to death. Buy good amps that come with a birth sheet if you want to see actual outputs at various voltages but really it won't be perceivable by most unless they under rate it by half the power which would then blow subs consumers buy for them making that even more fruitless.
@ahumm82806 жыл бұрын
@@pimphandgamester Thanks for dropping some knowledge for us!
@sergiopertuz35287 жыл бұрын
Aun tengo una 4300x funcionando perfecto
@leavenworthoc39283 жыл бұрын
I just got #3 and #4 of these... too bad I won't be able to enter any of the runs into the old school challenge. I never got the meter and my friggin 6 inch ports that i ordered may 12th just got shipped... paid for box designed around these ports..
@shaunnichols47185 жыл бұрын
I used to have this amp and had it hooked to two 500 watt mtx 10's for the life of me could not figure out why it pounded them so loud, back then I didn't know shit, now I see why, should have kept it.
@wal5 жыл бұрын
Yep, one of their best ever!
@mrlastname30654 жыл бұрын
Shaun Nichols you were hearing 369watts with your 2 ohm load sir
@Thanson19941510 жыл бұрын
Nice!, an oollll skool video uploaded on my birthday
@carshownerd10 жыл бұрын
name of song 0:48
@wal10 жыл бұрын
Song is "Not Too Cray", it's by Huma Huma and part of the KZbin audio library. Free music for video creators.
@carshownerd10 жыл бұрын
Dereck BigDWiz thx!!! awesome video!! i wish they still made amps like this
@NicholsonNitroWorks10 жыл бұрын
can the 2300 handle a 1/2 ohm load like the 225HO?
@wal10 жыл бұрын
Possibly for the burst test, but not a load I'd use in any daily setup. The 2300 has quite a bit more reserve power and designed for 2 ohms stereo or 4 ohms mono
@mrlastname30654 жыл бұрын
Awesome Asian gadget man the 1/2 ohm stable is only recommend in stereo mode by MTX. As far as mono goes, it lowest recommend ohms is 1.
@jorgearevalo47852 жыл бұрын
What about the MTX THUNDER 1501D
@jorgearevalo47852 жыл бұрын
Any body know the dyno ratings
@Headshothorror44889 жыл бұрын
50-75 amp ?/Good mono block 2 12's anyone ???
@Elevated6186 жыл бұрын
Guys I have MTX audio Thunder 300xd class D Mono amp I can't find any vids on this amp can anybody give me sum info on the amp please!
@wal6 жыл бұрын
I believe MTX still has manuals for older amps. Check mtxaudio.com
@littlejln2134 жыл бұрын
Is this the same amp as a 2300x?
@mrlastname30654 жыл бұрын
little no sir. the 2300x was 150x2 @4ohms & doubles @2ohms (stereo). The mono rating was 600w @4ohms.
@msdosp1mp8 жыл бұрын
That is a very nasty amp, I used to have one back in the day. Was constantly pushing the limits of my stock electrical system. It had no problems driving a dead short without catching on fire.
@ruffmutt57895 жыл бұрын
Are the MTX 250x Amps good in power
@mrlastname30654 жыл бұрын
Ruff Mutt no sir
@juniordossantos14610 жыл бұрын
Test the dd m80
@lacrossewieas24116 жыл бұрын
Cheaper amp?
@projectoldschoolspl35632 жыл бұрын
I got 6 of these because of this vid. Including a nib with birth sheet.
@wal2 жыл бұрын
Yo you hoard them all? 😜
@bjlracer13805 жыл бұрын
Lovin it
@simonbroadley65824 жыл бұрын
Love my HO. I guess I needed a little more oomph for that 1k.
@lalojacobo62909 жыл бұрын
Got one for sale???
@jo0nj0on8 жыл бұрын
Still looking for one?
@joshhanson67778 жыл бұрын
+jo0nj0on im interested
@joshhanson67778 жыл бұрын
+Josh Hanson i got a white one. i want the black to go with it.
@jolmeaki10 жыл бұрын
Love MTX.
@doddgarger68064 жыл бұрын
I had a 2300x and replaced with a 1500dx 😁👍
@bedema24835 жыл бұрын
I have a pair of these amps and they are horribly powerful. It was built as a cheater amp back in the old days for people running at 100watts class
@oldskoolbassvan980910 жыл бұрын
thats awesome
@wal10 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and commenting!
@oldskoolbassvan980910 жыл бұрын
no problem BigDWiz
@littlejln2134 жыл бұрын
I just bought one of these,
@wal4 жыл бұрын
One of the best ever
@littlejln2134 жыл бұрын
@@wal It just arrived. I posted a pic in the old school challenge. came in its original box with original birth sheet. In amazing condition. I can't believe the guy took my offer of $150 the first day it was on ebay.
@562mjohnson4 жыл бұрын
I had one of these with my eclipse 5v deadhead radios back in the days. If I remember it had 3 30 amp fuses on it. It was the real deal.
@wal4 жыл бұрын
Holyfield!
@lalojacobo62909 жыл бұрын
Got one for sale any body???
@jo0nj0on8 жыл бұрын
Still looking for one?
@mrlastname30654 жыл бұрын
Lalo jacobo I've got 2 in Bama available
@Van1018s4 жыл бұрын
Best cheater amp of all time right there. 💪🏼
@wal4 жыл бұрын
Pretty crazy!
@JMHurdJr3 жыл бұрын
The 2300x was my go too cheater amp!!
@biscuitninja6 жыл бұрын
"Cheater-licious"
@jo0nj0on8 жыл бұрын
Planning on selling mines. Hit me up.
@TheWhitemike896 жыл бұрын
still got those ??
@charlesamaral5610 жыл бұрын
I have a stack of MTX equipment,all junk broken.
@carsforlife8292 Жыл бұрын
I got the blue thunder series 50x2 75x2 150x2 and 3002 Don't like the 4 channel amps
@juantexas95610 жыл бұрын
Would really like to see you test a Mtx blue thunder pro 150x2 or a 300x2 like that test feo 50 watt amp nice