"we have no threats but we have cantrips. And cantrips can be anything...maybe even threats" lmfaoooo I love your thought process
@dingding123216 жыл бұрын
It could even be a boat!
@Blacturne8596 жыл бұрын
Drawing cards is the best part of magic
@ErroneousClique6 жыл бұрын
...they could even be a boat!
@danbrown74386 жыл бұрын
there is a boat that is a threat
@Atmapalazzo6 жыл бұрын
I just have to point this out, Erayo is not worth keeping in against humans. They have both caverns and vials to circumvent it.
@chemset4756 жыл бұрын
"Cracks Horizon Canopy... maybe they've just given up on life" lmao xD i love Seth
@newhampshirenate6 жыл бұрын
"...beating eggs..." You clever fellow, you, Seth.
@wearealreadydeadfam82146 жыл бұрын
Probably wasn’t even intentional.
@dboeify6 жыл бұрын
Against Tron: "We need to flip this Erayo."Proceeds to scry away the card that allowed him to flip Erayo.
@Mafagafo1655 жыл бұрын
that almost killed me, i was dieing inside
@andersongrandstaff73836 жыл бұрын
Hi Seth, thanks so much for playing my deck. Watching you beat eggs was incredibly satisfying.
@OlimarandLouie6 жыл бұрын
52:24 You could Opt, Opt, Mishra's Bauble, then Path targeting Erayu and it would flip.
@hatonyou70996 жыл бұрын
I saw this too, I think it would have been the correct line against tron, preventing the turn 3 Karn etc.
@phillipmeade76406 жыл бұрын
I paused the video when I saw that and came straight to the comments to see how many people was talking about that. It's like he already gave up and wasn't thinking.
@darmy1danny6 жыл бұрын
Doctor Seth! After the tests you ran, what's the conclusion?! Why am I so itchy all the time?! Seth: "Sooooo many crabs...." Noooo!
@lsmith123419856 жыл бұрын
Games @ 4:17
@pocketwatched6 жыл бұрын
Aww man, it looks like someone forgot he could path Orayo as his 4th spell during that tron matchup. You could have taken the opt instead of bottoming it, cast opt, cast Mishra's Bauble, then cast Path to Exile targeting Erayo. It flips on the cast trigger and path fizzles. Whether or not T3 Erayo would have been enough against tron is debatable, but I fee it would be better than sitting and waiting to get karned.
@shogostarr62186 жыл бұрын
I was wondering if that would work. I'm glad someone else noticed.
@ChrisPhelior6 жыл бұрын
My lord, why aren't you in Smash Bros or Fire Emblem Warriors yet?
@phillipmeade76406 жыл бұрын
I paused the video when I saw that and came straight to the comments to see how many people was talking about that. It's like he already gave up and wasn't thinking.
@boontish11046 жыл бұрын
Phillip Meade seth always does this versus tron. Just playing the matchup puts him on tilt.
@ODIRGO6 жыл бұрын
yup, I also notice it
@narwhalcetacean1446 жыл бұрын
Oh man, this feels so Vintagey with the Mentor, the Mox and the cantrips.
@dantewhite16886 жыл бұрын
Description says "Mox Opal". It's Mox Amber.
@MTGGoldfish6 жыл бұрын
oops.
@miketate34456 жыл бұрын
Cantrips could be anything... They could even be a boat!
@ErroneousClique6 жыл бұрын
Man, the second opponent just bugled all over you. Never seen such raw buglage before. I hope you will be ok after that.
@samouflage996 жыл бұрын
Ah, fun deck! Love seeing the appreciation for Jori En after she left Standard.
@ribbard6 жыл бұрын
you played the kci matchup quite well
@malikismyname6 жыл бұрын
I Agree with Carrot. Well played... And good Day to You Carrot.
@windstormnintendo6 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Honestly, probabaly some of the best play I've seen from seth in a while
@MTGGoldfish6 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@moshjoshpitchief44186 жыл бұрын
i think kci had a bad go
@Mutley1836 жыл бұрын
i think u could flip the erayo at the tron's game, opt+opt+mishra+path the erayo,trigger on the stack,resolves erayo flip, become an enchantment path loses it's target
@SomeFreakingCactus6 жыл бұрын
You are correct.
@phillipmeade76406 жыл бұрын
I paused the video when I saw that and came straight to the comments to see how many people was talking about that. It's like he already gave up and wasn't thinking.
@MTGGoldfish6 жыл бұрын
Hmm, alright, maybe we should have kept the second Opt. Pretty sure Erayo isn't that great against Tron, but it was our best hope to win.
@AndrewWoodford6 жыл бұрын
Good old “I John-O Castle”
@elliotyamamoto386 жыл бұрын
You should make the KCI player play the combo out.
@MTGGoldfish6 жыл бұрын
It's so boring though :(
@elliotyamamoto386 жыл бұрын
MTGGoldfish So true, but it's a good chance to grab a hot cocoa and a sandwich.
@anxez6 жыл бұрын
Speaking of, I'm planning on making KCI without wincons, what would you suggest to up the consistency of the deck?
@foxpendragon59176 жыл бұрын
Isn't eidolon of rhetoric/rule of law and erayo a hard lock?
@BeCurieUs6 жыл бұрын
I like the way you think, Imma have to try this :D
@PolskiSuzeren6 жыл бұрын
Sort of, but "can't be countered" effects get around it. Cavern of souls, abrupt decay, and the like just ignore it. Not to mention you can stick a vial before the lock. It's something that has been done in the past, but it's not very good.
@jonathanshore57686 жыл бұрын
glass spinner for protection
@BeCurieUs6 жыл бұрын
Polski Suzeren ya but I play lots of white prison decks, so artifact hate are part of the package. I'mma need more land hate!
@MTGGoldfish6 жыл бұрын
Yep! Discounting things that get through counters, but against most decks it is a hard lock.
@RandyG19756 жыл бұрын
Thanks for being awesome, dude!
@MTGGoldfish6 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@jonahstapels40666 жыл бұрын
Oh the old cantrip woes..... if you don't find gas, you can be tripped up.
@dingding123216 жыл бұрын
Why I always run counterspells, some temples and the "draw 2+ cards" cantrips instead. Granted it's not as consistent but daggumit if I don't like playing cards that generate some sort of statistical advantage on their own! And then if I find lots of lands I can always put them to good use.
@JohnPeter-yf5jf6 жыл бұрын
Always happy when you see a match vs Tron :)
@MTGGoldfish6 жыл бұрын
It's always fun...
@rileykeith59806 жыл бұрын
Okay Seth is just obsessed with making Mox Amber good
@MTGGoldfish6 жыл бұрын
We're going to do it sooner or later!
@TheBlueAnt6 жыл бұрын
Maybe it could work in a Panharmonicon deck?
@moshjoshpitchief44186 жыл бұрын
tries so hard to make a shitty card good. :( can't figure out why it's still 11 bucks a piece. should be about a quarter.
@testthewest1236 жыл бұрын
Sometimes the plays are really bad, Seth. Like not killing the Crabs on sight in the mill game or that Helix on Mantis rider, when the opponent doesn't tick up the veil and let's it on 2.
@shwift87896 жыл бұрын
This deck was so sweet!
@ErroneousClique6 жыл бұрын
The KCI win made me smile.
@SecretlyANarwhal6 жыл бұрын
I feel like swapping out the baubles and erayos for vendilion cliques and a few counterspells would make this deck very good. I also think that 8 cantrips is too many for this deck but I could be wrong. Thanks for the video Seth!
@tomsullivan80386 жыл бұрын
For testing the shuffle bug, if you scry and the card is still on top, quit the game and start looking at the top of the deck until the last card to check
@Tarrandus6 жыл бұрын
41:38 What was the intention with your line? I would have just gotten a red source and bolt-snap-bolted the crabs.
@darkonekosuke26 жыл бұрын
I like snap+path to try and get him to shuffle
@MTGGoldfish6 жыл бұрын
I was mostly hoping we could win in turn turns and that our opponent didn't have it.
@dylanoshier40646 жыл бұрын
My buddy is the guy who created/5-0ed with the list and is already working on perfecting an esper version of the deck. Hopefully you'll be doing another deck tech on it soon, but as a taste of the fun the deck has still has Erayo, but it's added Lingering Souls and Tasigur lol.
@COZYTW6 жыл бұрын
Beating KCI is already a solid victory. Beat the eggs! Beat them!!
@SparTadepT6 жыл бұрын
Cavern of Souls laughs at Erayo, that's likely what your humans opponent was searching for.
@MTGGoldfish6 жыл бұрын
This makes a lot of sense.
@canismajor11866 жыл бұрын
Machine Killer Seth!
@jesselaplante10406 жыл бұрын
Lol. My opponent has real.cards and were drawing mox ambers. So good it hurts. Love ya Saffron!
@andreashjorth54236 жыл бұрын
In game 2 against mill, you had snapcaster for spellpierce right :?,
@cubingexpress88756 жыл бұрын
❤️ your vids Seth:)
@kylekovacs71266 жыл бұрын
@27:20 "Oh no, we're getting bugled" XD
@johnmarx6 жыл бұрын
In the last tron match he should’ve opted, kept opt on top, played that, played bauble, then pathed his erayo, that’s the fourth spell, trigger goes on the stack, flips erayo, path fizzles, gets the enchantment.
@SpencerBelanger6 жыл бұрын
Im thinking with the ops and serums, you can cut the fetch lands.
@eyeowahawks6 жыл бұрын
Punt at 53 min. After you opt, play boble, path arao, while it's on the stack you opt again. Areo flips and path fizels. Sorry about the spelling.
@warwizard876 жыл бұрын
Seth, look up Sullivan solution in vintage from back in 05-06 very much like this deck
@MTGGoldfish6 жыл бұрын
I'll check it out!
@benjones27766 жыл бұрын
Porphyr nodes or culling scales would be good for killing humens etc.
@phillipmeade76406 жыл бұрын
I like the sound of that.
@toast_recon6 жыл бұрын
Isn't nodes pretty awful with monastery mentor?
@benjones27766 жыл бұрын
You can just let the nodes die if you are ready to play mentor, but yes no good in the other order.
@CPyJIb6 жыл бұрын
@MTGGoldfish 52:27 Keep OPT, drop Elganjo, OPT + Bauble + Path into Erayo = Flip
@MTGGoldfish6 жыл бұрын
Isn't that just three cards? Opt + Bauble + Path?
@CPyJIb6 жыл бұрын
You already played one Opt
@futsalkeegan6 жыл бұрын
It's very very minor, but at 10:25 wouldn't it have been correct to attack with Erayo before flipping her?
@MTGGoldfish6 жыл бұрын
Since Eggs doesn't have a way to deal with Erayo at instant speed, yes.
@quletrlot6 жыл бұрын
surprised against KCI you didn't keep path for either a scrap trawler or myr retriever
@EmXena3156 жыл бұрын
They're useless when KCI is up. Removal for creatures in general just suck.
@MTGGoldfish6 жыл бұрын
I've never been able to fizzle the combo with creature removal (although it is something reliant if the opponent misplays and runs out a creature early).
@cosmotect6 жыл бұрын
Wow this deck seems fucking lit! I think I want to try it out
@MTGGoldfish6 жыл бұрын
Flipping Erayo on turn two is pretty sweet.
@stormcrow16856 жыл бұрын
Shu Yunn? Manamorphose? Settle in the sideboard?
@christopherholfeld81376 жыл бұрын
I feel like there was an emblem or enchantment that does what erayo does in standard not to long ago. What was it?
@MTGGoldfish6 жыл бұрын
Jace, Unraveler of Secrets ultimate, I think.
@sethchapman14256 жыл бұрын
Would you not want artifact removal against aether vial? when sideboarding?
@sethchapman14256 жыл бұрын
Always kill crab if you can.
@MTGGoldfish6 жыл бұрын
Generally I don't bring in artifact removal against Aether Vial unless they deck has more targets than just Aether Vial.
@carter94496 жыл бұрын
Lots of main phase paths during storm giving them the extra mana, is this playing around counters?
@MTGGoldfish6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, they tend to have main deck counters.
@cloysterd6 жыл бұрын
I'm bummed you never cast Jori En. That was the only part of this deck I was interested in seeing.
@eap-yb1co6 жыл бұрын
"Doot doot MF!" -Militia Bugler (2018)
@Casey-cy6ph6 жыл бұрын
Supreme verdict in side?
@rapier19866 жыл бұрын
think this deck needs an anger or two in the side
@DonovanPresents6 жыл бұрын
Why no Alpine Moons sideboarded in during the mill matchup? That way you can name field of ruin and/or Shelldock Isle? It felt like there was quite a bit of punts with Seth playing this deck. It certainly feels like there should be more practicing with this deck to be even better.
@MTGGoldfish6 жыл бұрын
My personal feeling is Alpine Moon only comes in against Tron and Valakut. I don't think it's worth a card to shut down a random utility or creature land (although I'm sure there are some exceptions, that's my general rule). Maybe I'm wrong and I should be using it more aggressively, but I'm not sure turning of Shelldock Isle or Field of Ruin (which or our opponent may or may not even draw) is worth the price of a card.
@moshjoshpitchief44186 жыл бұрын
this whole deck is a punt
@Aronia556 жыл бұрын
Damping Sphere seems exceptionally bad for this deck Seth. Mentor, Erayo, Jori En and Snapcaster all want you to play multiple spells a turn
@justdude456 жыл бұрын
I know I'm two weeks too late, but the description says "Mox Opal" and not "Mox Amber"
@dudeofvalor92946 жыл бұрын
Feel Wear // Tear would have been better as Abrade (not sure what enchantment you really want to kill. Blood Moon maybe). Also this deck needs something in the SB for the more grindy match-ups (That Human's matches you would stabilise but had not enough ways to close out the game). Maybe some Man-lands would also do the trick (Colonnade probably your best option).
@paolomigliorati61416 жыл бұрын
Never seen Jori En being played and neither today :(
@thomashawkins76616 жыл бұрын
In the first mill game, why did you wait to path the crab? Don't understand the reason why and it milled lots of your deck. You exiled it at the end of turn and looked like it all could have been avoided? Same in game two. Had to crabs you could have killed and didn't? Interested to understand the reasoning
@MTGGoldfish6 жыл бұрын
Basically I think that our best plan against Mill is to kill them quickly, because they will mill us out eventually and we don't really have a way to stop it. So in game one we could have cast Lightning Bolt on the Crab, but I think it's better to save it for face. Then in game two (and also the next turn in game one) we would have had to skip playing Monastery Mentor to kill the Crab, so getting down our finisher seems worth having a few more cards milled. That was my thinking anyway.
@Itachi21x6 жыл бұрын
Your suffering will be legendary, even in Modern.
@skinnyman83206 жыл бұрын
I like your content! When are you gonna upload some non-budget Mardu Vampires? :>
@filipwestling15496 жыл бұрын
Bolt Thalias Liutenant in response to the Hierarch to avoid getting blown out by vial
@Dan1loBC6 жыл бұрын
pretty cool deck, but I was kinda sad you took Jori En away every single sideboard ^^ haha. We couldn't see him do anything any game, sadly.
@SuperUghe6 жыл бұрын
If you have mox and repeal, cant you play and flip erayo on turn 2?
@MTGGoldfish6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Erayo + Mox + Repeal flips immediately.
@jerred96556 жыл бұрын
Did joran ever get casted
@lyndonuntaptrigger6 жыл бұрын
why is erayo green in the deck list?
@AndrewWoodford6 жыл бұрын
The deck needs an Anger of the Gods or 2 in the sideboard.
@jrs37396 жыл бұрын
Awesome.
@FrankDTank166 жыл бұрын
game 2 of mil, you should've bolt snap bolt during blocks to take out the crabs instead of opting. Would've increased the chances of winning next turn.
@Apkooi16 жыл бұрын
Have we done Jace Erayo lock against the odds yet?
@MTGGoldfish6 жыл бұрын
We haven't, but this seems like a pretty good way of doing it (if you want to maximize the flipping potential more Repeal seems good).
@Apkooi16 жыл бұрын
Someday, Itll happen. Great vid as always, Seth
@absolutfx6 жыл бұрын
100% make KCI players play it out and timeout on Modo. It doesn't make for good videos though :D
@SomeFreakingCactus6 жыл бұрын
That is straight-up unsportsmanlike. If they’re already combining off, and you know with 100% certainty that they will kill you, scoop it up. When you make someone time out, you are using rules outside the rules of MTG in order to win.
@alexmandella74186 жыл бұрын
don't understand why we didn't keep opt on top and try to flip erayo game 2 against Tron
@bryantan42286 жыл бұрын
Last game: Storm player could have cast Noxious Revival, then cast Past In Flames. He could then cast Grapeshot and Lightning Bolt. Instead he screwed up his sequencing
@darkonekosuke26 жыл бұрын
Or he could have cast it the turn he gifted for it
@MTGGoldfish6 жыл бұрын
I don't mind getting a punt-aided win against Strom :)
@sekanderali60926 жыл бұрын
where's the link to vote on decks posted? (for next time)
@MTGGoldfish6 жыл бұрын
For Much Abrew whichever Instant Deck Tech from the previous week is most popular wins. Against the Odds has a real poll though.
@sekanderali60926 жыл бұрын
Yes, where can I find the against the odds poll
@Studdmufn6 жыл бұрын
I think that against humans, especially playing a deck that really doesn't wanna see an aether vial, bringing in wear tears could have done a lot.
@guilhermeribeiromichelino38526 жыл бұрын
Seth, the game against Tron you should have kept the Opt... It would be your third spell, and then u could path Erayo for the flip
@MTGGoldfish6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, in hindsight that might have been a good plan.
@mrsnufflegums6 жыл бұрын
I mean there's a reason Erayo, Soratami Ascendant is banned in commander :joy:
@joserene-t5z6 жыл бұрын
I heard "Jayce and Snapcasters" as "Jason Snapcaster"
@jordinpagel59766 жыл бұрын
I love watching these on 1.25x speed.
@melissagrenier22006 жыл бұрын
This is basically bridgevine except easier to interact with. I think you need to mulligan into a payoff.
@hz12216 жыл бұрын
40:50 "Soooo many crabs"
@thedestroyerofz11996 жыл бұрын
Seems spicy
@LegitHarpyHunter6 жыл бұрын
Not sure if you know, but it truly is a lock if you cast curse of exhaustion with that erayo out. Lol
@MTGGoldfish6 жыл бұрын
Hmm, that sweet.
@killerkurez92336 жыл бұрын
16:32 should have styled in them and played Erayo. Would have flipped it.
@malikismyname6 жыл бұрын
Why Jori En in the deck?
@MTGGoldfish6 жыл бұрын
It's a weird one, but it draws cards!
@MrOfTheSea6 жыл бұрын
Malik Thomas spang bruun my guess is it combines very well with the cantrips, snapcasters, and mox opal
@sensei97676 жыл бұрын
this deck likes playing multiple spells a turn, card advantage and Jori En is a 2 color legend.
@malikismyname6 жыл бұрын
i see… but it does not get played, feels like a separate game plan and is first to get boarded out each matchup… so i see its potential, but would one not rather have an other 0 mana spell like Walking Ballista, EE or Noxious Revival or perhaps some interaction like... clique, lightning helix or remand for tempo? or even imsamaru?
@sensei97676 жыл бұрын
Malik Thomas spang bruun That is how Seth played the deck and Seth didn't get many opportunities to play. We get really determine its power like this.
@myztik57166 жыл бұрын
How did you possibly bottom Mentor against humans how else did you expect to win
@TheEarthdeity6 жыл бұрын
Not bolting crabs in mill is like not bolting goblin guides against burn. Just always bolt it or they'll mill for 6 at least (1/10 of your deck, a la 2 damage from guide a turn).
@MTGGoldfish6 жыл бұрын
Hmm, when you put it that way, maybe we should have just bolted.
@phaustho6 жыл бұрын
Mox Amber got so much hate during the Humans matchup... That was really unfair: it's the exact same scenario when you wipe out Affinity's board and they top deck a Mox Opal, but in that case no one would blame Opal for its "downside"...
@MTGGoldfish6 жыл бұрын
That's a fair point.
@phaustho6 жыл бұрын
That said, I understand your mindset during that match and why you commented that, especially after that super-smooth first game. It's just that I'm Amber's #1 fan and I must show some appreciation every now and then. XP Thanks for the response, Seth, and for your content!
@francescogulisano29176 жыл бұрын
Using Jace to flashback repeal on Thalia's liutenant was kind of a punt, as plussing Jace on the phantasmal militia bugler would have killed it; still, you didn't have many outs
@MTGGoldfish6 жыл бұрын
Hmm, yeah, that's make sense.
@Lukkni6 жыл бұрын
the jori ens seemed quite bad, maybe its just the matchups tho
@timothybensema89016 жыл бұрын
Why does this deck play 17 lands...
@Lazarusgraves6 жыл бұрын
So I've been watching these for months and I still don't understand how KCI wins, it doesn't have any way of doing damage or any "you win the game" cards so how does it win? From what I can tell it only wins because people scoop because they don't want to see it.
@ja147326 жыл бұрын
zuzufan09 Pyrite Spellbomb looped infinitely.
@cloysterd6 жыл бұрын
They draw their deck until they find Pyrite Spellbomb, then cast-sac-recur it ten times.
@brunnun6 жыл бұрын
Some older versions played Emrakul but now they mostly play Pyrite Spellbomb
@pa_3op6 жыл бұрын
Sometimes they also play Reservoir
@Acraviotot6 жыл бұрын
So, if you are never gonna play the Jori En and you board it out pretty much every game, maybe you need a different face for the deck.
@chrisp35646 жыл бұрын
I think you forgot that they have cavern against humans
@reidr72886 жыл бұрын
I know you better by Seth rather than “Saffron Olive”
@stephenhousman69756 жыл бұрын
You need to learn not to fetch when you scry 2 to the bottom unless you desperately need the mana. You effectively adding a card to the deck ( +2 from the shuffled scrys -1 for removing a land = 1 card added)
@mattwakeford90606 жыл бұрын
You missed a flip on erayo against torn game 2. You cast the first opt but bottomed the opt that was on top. If you kept it you would have gone second opt, bottom wear/tear, draw mox, cast mox and bauble and flip
@MTGGoldfish6 жыл бұрын
That's true, although we didn't know Mox was the next card in our deck :(
@mattwakeford90606 жыл бұрын
MTGGoldfish True, thank you for replying btw! It's no biggie, we all do it! Super fun deck though!