2024 Rubicon 700 review! WTF! Come on Honda... Really? A Worse Rincon

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[@6.2_vortec]

They need to shoehorn the pioneer 1000 drivetrain into a atv I bet they would sell like crazy

[@DakotaPajak]

❤❤

[@southernslangerz2254]

Facts. I been saying this since they came out with the Talon and Pioneer

[@healthiestsickness8646]

they totally succeed in disapointing everyone i mean i didnt expected honda to bring a new twin 850 or 1000 japanese made quad on the market but it would have been so nice, suzuki yamaha and kawasaki (even tought kawa is a 750 twin) would have been forced to come with something to compete the next years but no we get some stupid worthless shit instead ... great i wonder if they even study the market and what people wantsometime

[@tbone198786]

Everyone has been saying the same thing for years.

[@R.O.A.V]

I peek at the lineup every year and hope I see a 1000 in an foreman never do 😂

[@JacobOverman]

No diff lock, no power steering, no tow receiver. It’s a joke. I guess we have to wait 15 more years

[@MudPuppyOffroad]

I really hope Honda is reading these comments because everyone is saying the same thing LOL. Good stuff

[@hummyhero1484]

Agreed

[@shawnkavanagh2951]

no power steering = no chance me being interested

[@highball7347]

@@JacobOverman no power steering??? O the humanity. What will we ever do??

[@Joe-mp4nw]

@@highball7347lol. I said the same shit, once you go power steering route you dont really want to go back. Wouldn’t matter much on a Honda though, so slow wtv

[@jonmaher8699]

Just give us the Rubicon 1000 already.

[@thomashodo7303]

According to there web site it has the same engine as the pioneer 700 which is 61 hp

[@DakotaPajak]

❤❤❤

[@southernslangerz2254]

Yes lawd 👌🏼👌🏼

[@tylerwombatt6478]

@@thomashodo7303and guess where they got the engine for the p700 from.

[@thomashodo7303]

@@tylerwombatt6478 I thought the rincon only had 38 hp the pioneer has 61

[@duncandmcgrath6290]

I love all my Honda machines, I’ve always been baffled by their tone deaf ignorance of market trends

[@hummyhero1484]

Just imagine telling someone that owns a 520 rubicon that your 700 rubicon don’t have a low range or power steering or diff lock or upgraded suspension and weighs more and cost more and is actually a rincon. Good job honda.this could be the dumbest atv they have ever built and in my opinion it’s insulting to me and others that want and would pay for what Honda refuses to build.just rediculous

[@hondarubi0812]

I was hoping they would get rid of the rincon and do like canam did and come out with a new design 650/700 with footshift optional with difflok minus the belt. Guess we'll wait another 10 years.

[@motofarmmx2430]

Ive owned a lot of the big bore atvs new 00-06 and flipped a bunch on the side from 2011-2015. Imo hondas were pretty crappy. They never pulled much were always 3 wheel drive lacked suspension brakes and power. I had a rincon and it was pretty useless except for trail riding and still lacked a lot in that area. I broke the frame on it and blew the trans. I had a rubicon it was nice ans the gears were low but it would pull as much as the 325 polaris and not even close to a 500 sportsman. I would say the 350 rancher and 300 fourtrax were my favorites just because they were so small the 300 espically.

[@cumminsbayou]

350 rancher is literally the worst 4 wheeler Honda ever built. 300 is built for a child, can’t toat 28s stock, and has a junk rear end

[@richieschmidt6225]

I love the late 90s and early 2000s Hondas. Recons, ranchers, foreman’s, fourtrax 300.

[@jeffdeal1162]

Honda hasn't hit it out of the park since the release of the 420 Rancher, that was the last big quantum leap of anything they've done. The 520 models aren't any more impressive than the 475's. Honda really screwed up when they decided to push the Hondamatic, then this 3 speed abomination. There's no innovation for ATV's anymore and there's not going to be any for another 20 years.

[@dylanwaldun8890]

I wish the Honda would make a too cylinder making at least 60 horsepower but when I first saw it I thought well that actually doesn't look too bad but then I found out it still doesn't have power steering and everything else is also the same so it's still not making any more power and I was kind of mad

[@ItsLeeeroy]

Pls honda just make a 1000cc rubicon with power steering and a diff lock

[@MudPuppyOffroad]

Maga

[@drakeslocum2564]

Since they took away the Rincon name, maybe that means they will bring it back as something bigger?

[@MudPuppyOffroad]

That would be great

[@James-Nobles]

⁠​⁠@@MudPuppyOffroadRincon 850, or Rincon 1000

[@MudPuppyOffroad]

@@James-Nobles we can only hope

[@MudPuppyOffroad]

@@James-Nobles why they decided to keep the 680 around and further confused the lineup is beyond me

[@zachfskipper]

I wonder if they changed the gearing. My rincon is a totally different machine with a BR gear reduction, but i wouldnt buy a new one with out some major updates.

[@peedeeaerialproductions]

They didn’t even put power steering or a locker on it STILL OMGGG this is the biggest joke by far Hondas ever pulled.

[@Bartsnightmare]

I had to check my calendar to make sure it wasn’t April 1st?

[@DeathShallRise]

funny they were the leader in the 80s with their ATC and Fourtrax 40 years ago, they were so simple yet innovative .... and look at them now

[@MudPuppyOffroad]

Freaking lawyers ruin everything

[@greygrizzlyoutdoors1764]

Yamaha was biggest bore atv in the world in 1998 with grizzly 600, look at them now no better than honda

[@3006USMC]

Dang.😕 i was holding out for this new unit. What a disappointment. It’s like putting lipstick on a pig. Oh well I’ll keep shopping. Thanks MP

[@Larry-xf3qt]

So pissed I wanted a rubicon R or something cool and not gay

[@AppalachianMountainRiders]

Agree 100% with everything you said. I got so say that if Honda doesn’t up the ante and soon, they’ll be phased out soon by the likes of cfmoto…lol. I’m getting first hand experience with cfmoto at work and I hate to admit it but China is doing it better then Honda right now😤 if Yamaha don’t revamp the grizzly soon they’ll be in the same boat. Like wise I can’t even count the number of pioneer 500’s I’ve sold for Honda due to my channel but except the the little Honda XR 150 bike I just bought as a commuter, I’m done with Honda!

[@Clamjammer]

I just got a cf moto CForce 1000 touring. What do you think of these as a mechanic?

[@AppalachianMountainRiders]

@@Clamjammer I’m super impressed with them! The new Gen 3’s haven’t been around long enough to speak of longevity but they are surprisingly well built and have great fit and finish. Best bang for buck machine you can buy period! I’ll be getting to do a review of the new Gen 3 1000 very soon!

[@Lalaafastroli]

I’ve owned all Japanese brands(they are amazing) got my cfmoto 600 2 years ago and has incredibly reliable.

[@freidrichnietzsche6643]

Your videos helped convince me to buy a pioneer 520 last year 👍🏻

[@nidavelllir6923]

I’m so glad I wasn’t the one overreacting when this thing dropped, so so disappointed

[@447Film]

Damn. Honda price hiked the shit out of everything for 2025

[@buildurtruckurway9118]

Kawasaki has been playing the same game as Honda for years. They keep acting like they are listening and they tease people at trade shows ect. They claimed 2 years ago a whole new brute was coming out but they just did the same thing as the previous Brute/prairie. They slapped different plastics on the same crap they have had since the brute force 650i and 750i Came out. I'd love to see Honda make a big bore that's got some real power tho.

[@healthiestsickness8646]

i only see 2 contenders for bringing. 850 or 1000 twin, yamaha or kawasaki, because honda suzuki are still way too conservative imo

[@mukhanglarochannel4774]

Honda is like their michael jordan. They're looking up to them. So they will do the same.

[@pepperspray4144]

Honda get the 755 motor from your trans gender Alps?. And update the suspension like the Riny.

[@Bartsnightmare]

Major disappointment!

[@Ltr-s8f]

On dirt wheels they showed a patent for a Yamaha Sport utility, likely a 1000, I don’t understand why Honda can’t update any of their machines. All the manufacturers are improving while Honda is pretty stagnate aside from the Talon

[@vilmarebong6379]

The Build Design is 1994 , and the model is 2024 WTF ! Quit building ATV HONDA PLEASE! its embarrassing to your BRAND

[@surgefan162]

fuck the hondas 👍 i loved em my whole life but my 3rd gen outlander is a completely different experience.

[@drakeslocum2564]

The biggest problem with the Rincon is it only has 3 gears, and so does this. Would it have been possible for Honda to put in its 5 speed automatic transmission?

[@MudPuppyOffroad]

It would have been possible but they would have had to re-engineer the entire engine and clearly they're too lazy to do anything other than face lifts

[@drakeslocum2564]

@@MudPuppyOffroad if I remember correctly they also bumped the power down in the Rincon a couple of years ago. Taking it from 38 hp to 32 hp

[@benlouwagie4567]

This should hopefully have substantially more power and make up for the lack of gears.. they could’ve done a lot better but I think it is a step in the right direction. A very small step but at least we have somthing.

[@biged420]

Thank you for preaching the truth to All the brainwashed people that actually think this is a good machine

[@Legonjinthingde]

21 years of production and still no diff lock, or even a low range. All they did right was make the racks bigger.

[@bengavins1993]

1000% agree! Same damn thing what a shame. Things are total turds and honestly have some issues with cam chain tensioners and engine noise and grinding in and out of foreword and reverse with that gas shifter. Hunk of shit

[@jerryrumbolt1528]

So much potential but keeps disappointing. I have a 22 Honda pioneer 1000-5 Deluxe and have disposed it for the year of ownership. Being traded next week. Can't wait.

[@benlouwagie4567]

What was wrong with it?? We are considering a p1000 for the farm to work.

[@nseric1233]

The dealer close to me pretends rincons are not made anymore. They don’t sell. I’d be ok with the 3 speed if it had a low range but it’s geared so high as is it sucks on the trails I ride and I’m not doing extreme mud or anything.

[@Gm0Prim0]

I hope nobody buys this Honda you'vebeenconned 700

[@MudPuppyOffroad]

Oh man I love that

[@justin_steen]

I definitely be interested to get my hands on one of those mainly for the rear plastics lol it would be nice to have two lights on Rubicon instead of the one single light

[@biged420]

Plastics are made to work and fit on the rincon frame/chassis so I doubt it’d be as simple as just bolting them on to a Rubicon

[@justin_steen]

@@biged420 yeah I mean I know, but if it was Bolt on it would be really nice

[@biged420]

@@justin_steen agreed

[@85goon]

Hopefully honda makes a new rincon that can compete with can ams and Polaris while having the Honda reliability and feel to the machine. Do you agree mudpuppy? If not what are your thoughts?

[@freidrichnietzsche6643]

I agree. See my comments below!

[@85goon]

@@freidrichnietzsche6643 wow you wrote a hole essay

[@freidrichnietzsche6643]

@@85goon Haha! Had some strong coffee this morning ;) To summarize - the rebranded Rincon ... is "ghey"!

[@85goon]

@@freidrichnietzsche6643 yes l agree hopefully the rincon comes back as a 850 or 1000 rincon

[@CorenelBrake]

Man for a few days before I found any details on this quad I was super excited. This just bums me out. If they just did a legit rubicon with the 700cc engine I’d be handing my 17 rubicon to my brother or mother to use and be running a wicked atv. Typical Honda.

[@X1VLabs-xs6ni]

I would like to point out that Kawasaki did basically the same think with the Brute Force this year, and Honda and Kawasaki released these models late anyone else notice this ?

[@Bkirkk]

Man what a let down bruh.

[@sap3055]

Honda is so old fashioned and underpowered 😂

[@MudPuppyOffroad]

ATVs yes

[@RydinginStyle72]

It's amazing you can buy a Can-Am XMR that will obliterate in every way for an extra $500

[@kirkhamilton56]

I like the engine and transmission. Wish it had another gear and power steering and tow hitch. I'll keep my 520 for now.

[@NorthGaLife]

Its like Honda want people to switch to different brands. We are tired of underpowered machines.

[@michaelmartin2912]

Believe me, I know the frustration. I wish Honda would build a new trx450r But I don't think they ever will

[@biged420]

They won’t even build a decent utility atv, they won’t ever bring back a sport quad, that markets dead, hence why they got out of it

[@tbone198786]

​@biged420 the sport quad market isn't dead. Yamaha is just the only ones selling them. The trx 250 sells like crazy.

[@biged420]

@@tbone198786 Yes Yamaha still sells them and yes Honda still has the little 250 but look at the sales numbers of these machines vs SXS and sport utility machines, the numbers Arnt there for Honda to get back into making a 400 or 450 sport quad let alone try and take the market back from Yamaha after they they already handed it to them

[@85goon]

Amazing concept but they shoulda added more new stuff

[@Thatgeorgia300]

Your better off getting a 570 can am used

[@Axellpz07]

I have a 2021 Rincon and a 2022 rubicon and like the Rincon so much better way more power and faster and honestly feels better other than no diff lock which I added one after market

[@MudPuppyOffroad]

Curious what front locker you added...? Did you do a spool? You must only do trails

[@justin_steen]

Did you do a spool locker?

[@Axellpz07]

@@MudPuppyOffroad no I did it for mud here amd there I do trails but mud is more fun

[@MudPuppyOffroad]

@@justin_steen yeah that's my question. There's no locker available for the newer Rincons

[@Axellpz07]

@@justin_steen not sure got it from highlighter and there a guy with a Timon on KZbin that shows how u do it

[@hondaboatin371]

They claim same engine as the p700

[@imdepressed8326]

My 420 rancher will smoke it😅

[@Nunavutmiutaq1]

Im guessing it’s using the pioneer 700 engine, not the rincon engine.

[@MudPuppyOffroad]

Care to share with the differences are?

[@lost_marblesadv]

This isn't just a Honda problem. All the Japanese brands have put their R&D into SxS now. It's what sells. Absolutely no innovation in the ATV segment in 10 years.

[@MudPuppyOffroad]

Good point 100%

[@adamnagel7436]

Sxs's are the future. ATV's that are made already do the job they are intended to do. Putting any more into them won't pay off long term and will just make them even more expensive. At least Honda ATVs are made in the US. They aren't for everyone, but I for one would rather they just keep them simple.

[@MudPuppyOffroad]

@@adamnagel7436 Sxs are the future... Less skill required and more comfortable for lazy Americans lol can am is the only company putting money into atv development at the moment

[@James-Nobles]

We need the TRX to return as a Renegade/Scrambler alternative

[@jasonmilam9930]

There's that ! Well said MudPuppy!

[@FloridaTingz]

Any of those quads would be awesome on crushlocks and a snorkel

[@MudPuppyOffroad]

Lol

[@Suki_the_half_blue]

In my opinion it's not laziness it's trickery

[@JodieMix]

This is the whole video? You trashing Hondas sight and ATV specs? 😂

[@MudPuppyOffroad]

It's accurate

[@Suki_the_half_blue]

I find Honda in the ATV off Road world to be the laziest of them all, they have absolute Die Hard fan base yet they keep throwing up the same model for years while their fan base screams for more power. That's why I don't ride Hondas or Yamahas, Kawasaki because they are boring once you feel what Can-Am and Polaris are doing. Because of this I have switched. For decades I was a absolutely Die Hard Honda fan, Can-Am is my new. I don't care that they're not made as well once you get on one it's a different world compared to these underpowered Farm vehicles that the Japanese sell

[@MudPuppyOffroad]

Have you ever heard of Kawasaki or Yamaha? They're even worse as far as making meaningful updates every other decade... Lol it's actually happening with most ATV manufacturers because all the money is in side-by-sides. Fat drunk idiots feel safer in a side-by-side that has a much flatter learning curve

[@Suki_the_half_blue]

@MudPuppyOffroad that is SO true . More $ in sxs because of this quads are getting left to the side. If Can-Am and Polaris keep going on the upward Trend that they are for quads I'm happy

[@alexmaclean1]

When I heard there was a rubicon 700 coming to Canada I was so excited, and then I was more let down than I've ever been by a product. It's worse in every way than a 520, and costs more, absolutely criminal. I hope dealers push customers away from this.

[@andrewinsinga2993]

I will just stick with my old Suzuki king quad 300 4x4 And just keep waiting and hopefully Honda stops and listens to its fan base

[@CesarHernandez-nn8xf]

lol

[@soundnessofmind7196]

I will say the rincon would atleast hit 60 mph only honda 4x4 that can

[@MudPuppyOffroad]

FairPoint but it's been able to do that since 2003... With the only meaningful update coming in 2006...

[@brandonmelanson4294]

did they even add power steering???

[@Larry-xf3qt]

No 😂

[@X1VLabs-xs6ni]

It will still sale, but is there any change to the gear ratios ? They will likely see a profit from the aesthetic changes for that model in sales over the course of a year. Remember it’s about the profits for them. If they don’t see enough profits in the sales annually, they won’t spend all the money to manufacture a completely brand new model.

[@quaddingsous]

Total joke! C'mon Honda, get your shit together!

[@WilliamRumfield]

Well they are reliable

[@biged420]

They better be because that’s the only thing going for them

[@johnnymartens9558]

I always forget that canadians get less machines then the US. The rincon hasnt been sold here in years. I kinda hope this "new 700" will be just so I can ride it

[@stonehorn4641]

The days of Honda being top ATV’s is well over. They haven’t been interesting in years

[@cass8144]

Honda needs to get it together and make interesting things products again. Like bring back 2 strokes and sport quads.

[@hammocklife8548]

wonder if they did that to test the 700 first before bringing over to the actual rubicon frame.

[@goodboyringo9716]

Why even build a 4 wheeler if this is all you can offer ?

[@MudPuppyOffroad]

It's pretty pathetic but my hope is that they just wanted to free up the Rincon nameplate so they could put it on something cool with two cylinders LOL

[@goodboyringo9716]

@@MudPuppyOffroad ... I WAS ONCE A BIG HONDA FAN BUT ONCE THEY CAN THE CR250 OR 2 STROKE , I WAS DONE WITH HONDA. THEY REALLY DON'T CARE ANYMORE SO WHY SHOULD I ?

[@Alohaxchase808]

Idk I feel like that shit looks nice ash tho the rincons were ugly that Honda front end is the best looking one ever 💯

[@timking2194]

What a joke

[@canamdennis6829]

What a joke 😂

[@jim1330]

I love the shift lever for plowing snow. Its the fastest easiest shifting atv for plowing.

[@dandahl333]

My 2023 Sportsman 570 has more power than that lol

[@Zombiegod420]

@mud puppy im getting water in my oil on my 99 300 need help please

[@highball7347]

Japanese brands like Toyota and Honda have always been slow to change, like…..for the past 60 years. So I’m not sure why your panties are in a wad. Their market is people who put reliability and consistency above having the latest one million CC big bore, with 5 ft tall mud tires on it and a 12 ft tall snorkel. Not all of us spend our weekends drunk off our ass, shirts off, tackling the deepest mud hole we can find. Then spending our weekdays fixing those high performance pieces of shit (Polaris,can am). CVT transmissions suck. Always have always will but other brands have convinced people to spend 40,000 dollars on junk. I commend Honda for offering a traditional transmission. This is like the Nickelback phenomenon. Everyone on the internet has told you to hate the Rincon, so now like sheep, everyone hates the Rincon having never sat on one.

[@MudPuppyOffroad]

Read the other comments. The consumers are not happy

[@highball7347]

@@MudPuppyOffroad most of them have never seen a Rincon in person. The Rincon or any other modern ATV is light years ahead of anything from 20 years ago. It’s has a 680 cc engine, 4x4, and fully independent suspension. What in Gods name will that ATV not do that you or anyone else want it to do??? O that’s right, it doesn’t have 300 hp and won’t traverse a 200ft deep lake, therefore it’s an under powered POS that’s not even worthy of a gravel road. People can talk smack about Honda all day long but in 40 years, you will still see them working just fine on any number of farms. The snorkeling mud toys will have already been recycled into washing machines by then.

[@MudPuppyOffroad]

@@highball7347 lol wow you are clueless. The Rincon platform is 21 years old. I've had 2 of them. Absolute turd, can properly turn a 27" tire

[@adamnagel7436]

​@@MudPuppyOffroad not all consumers are in the comments. Some of us don't need or care about EPS on a machine because it point blank is not needed.

[@MudPuppyOffroad]

@@adamnagel7436 eps is optional but front locker and low gears are a must

[@jaythemusicman801]

No eps and no diff lock on the facelift rincon still either, too stupid

[@goodtimejunkie]

Well said. Laziness, and no understanding of the market

[@Zharkov_Makhnovist]

Ive been watching ur older vids and i wanted to ask where ur riding? It looks like Florida and it looks very similar to where i live maybe we could go ride sometime?

[@MudPuppyOffroad]

I ride all over the place. Mostly FL

[@keeganfoster1792]

Damn.

[@canadianatvlife]

👍🇨🇦

[@jim1330]

There is no bogging on a Rincon in the mud. Torque monster

[@MudPuppyOffroad]

Yeah that's just incorrect. Every Rincon in Pioneer 700 can be heard bogging and seen barely turning the tires. You must be running stock tires which around here wouldn't get you out of the parking lot.

[@MudPuppyOffroad]

They are geared far too high for oversized or aggressive tires

[@freidrichnietzsche6643]

Excellent video brother! Damn! Our entire family love Hondas because of their reliability toughness and simplicity. I need a quad for mixed use in our farm (and some trail/gravel road riding) so I’ve been somewhat waiting to see what Honda would put out per the rumors. Was very stoked when I heard they were coming out with a big bore and knew about the existing Rincon but This is disappointing considering I had hoped they produce a big bore (big single/twin engine) style utility atv like the Polaris sportsman 850 or 1000 with a decent suspension that rides better (I am a Hoonigan after all 😂). I get it that there are BIG differences between team red and Polaris but at that price point, and with current incentives and shopping hard, you’re not too far $$ from a new big bore Polaris where you arguably get more ATV for your money (engine, suspension, ride quality, features etc) which really has me thinking about trying a big bore Po po. Hell, the most expensive Honda atv has less suspension travel than their cheaper models… not to mention the gearing issues you mention and the power output mentioned in the comments. If true, Why in the hell would the neuter the engine that much - I just don’t understand. I’d probably be “ok” with a 520 rubicon eps/deluxe but would regret not trying a big bore quad at this point. Honda may have pushed me away with this move. This rincon rebrand is what happens when marketing and (primarily) accounting are driving the corporate ship. Turn the engineers loose Honda!

[@ToadHoleOntario]

On the Canadian website it states it has 3 stage 4wd with licker

[@MudPuppyOffroad]

That's funny

[@ToadHoleOntario]

Honda didn't call it a licker but they done show a picture to validate the locker just the old school 2wd selector. I'm not into the Rincon and love my 2017 rubicon but we haven't had the rincon up in Canada for years

[@justin_steen]

How’d you even get to the Canadian website? Wait, nvm I read your name…

[@kirkhamilton56]

No locker. Thats just the 4wd switch.

[@ToadHoleOntario]

@@kirkhamilton56 did you see one? Canadian market gets different models( example Acura CSX) I haven't seen a rincon in Canadian sales for years and wouldn't be surprised if they put a locker for CDN market.

[@SAFE-AT-HOME-SPORTS.]

The Honda site says it’s the pioneer 700 motor

[@justin_steen]

Literally the exact same thing

[@SAFE-AT-HOME-SPORTS.]

@@justin_steen then it’s 60+ horsepower

[@justin_steen]

@@SAFE-AT-HOME-SPORTS. yeah but it’s geared crazy aggressive in first because it’s a *three speed*

[@justin_steen]

@@SAFE-AT-HOME-SPORTS. and the “previous gen” only made 38hp at the wheels

[@arickhook370]

Honda doesn't like power... power breaks stuff lol

[@MudPuppyOffroad]

P1K and talon make great power...

[@biged420]

Dumb irrelevant comment

[@sharrky2253]

stop nit pickin

[@MudPuppyOffroad]

Lol read some other comments

[@Whitestrash]

It's a real bummer. But there's speculation that Honda might make a bigger Rincon now... but who knows. This might be it. Lame.