Muhammad Ali Discusses Fixed Computerised Fights | The Dick Cavett Show

Muhammad Ali discusses the new technology that virtually matches him against fighters of the past and speculates whether it could be racist.
Date aired - 5/25/1970 - Muhammad Ali
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[@SpikeRazorshards]

The quality of this channel is insane. Video's as perfect as possible, and the audio is extremely crisp. Even though this show was on decades before I was born, I love listening to these interviews.

[@justinpipes85]

If I had to guess it was recorded on actual film and not video. Film can be up converted into 4k. Videotape can not be up converted.

[@Lava1964]

The outcome of the "computer fight" between Ali and Marciano depended on where you lived. A version where Ali won was shown in Europe. A version where Marciano won was shown in the USA.

[@chrisbennett606]

Lava1964 why isn't the ending were Ali wins shown on the KZbin

[@liberty5069]

I guess computers have to play politics as well.

[@billthestinker]

The version where Ali wins has Marciano stopped on cuts

[@hydraevents7338]

I saw it as a child in England and Marciano won in that version

[@mikecesa4444]

In Europe or England? Because, Italia is in Europe and it certainly wasn't show there. Especially, in Rocky's parents home country.

[@abornleader2474]

Muhammad Ali is very very Handsome. I love his nature as well. Always cool calm and collected.

[@willminkorea2010]

For many years, boxing "experts" have been trying to guess the outcomes of hypothetical bouts between fighters from different eras. One thing is certain-the early 1970's was a great era for boxing with:Ali, Joe Frazier, Ken Norton, George Foreman, and others.

[@LUKERs1196]

The list goes on, Ron Lyle, Jimmy Young, Larry Holmes, Earnie Shavers, Oscar Bonavena among others

[@archenema6792]

We live in a world where the internet is the 2nd stomach, and Google is the 1st, the one that that gets to decide the "proper" viewpoint.

[@nilepax8168]

Ali IS the greatest fighter of all time, not WAS. The incomparable, most graceful, gracious, courageous. The legend, bar absolutely none.

[@Bazinga73904]

I love reliving the past in a weird way

[@Sameoldfitup]

“I understood for the first time that I didn't understand what I thought I understood”― Seiji Ozawa

[@3216100]

On a video of Ali, I wasn't expecting to find Norman Mailer describing machine learning five decades before it entered the public consciousness. Such a sharp mind for such a contemptible man.

[@ribamarsantarosa4465]

ndeed I am impressed by the talk of Norman Mailer and his view of AI. This TV show was aired less than 6 months after the most common en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epoch_(computing) used by most programming languages, OSs and protocols of today (to know a "rationale" for this epoch: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_time#History)

[@uncjim]

The Ali vs Marciano “Superfight” was actually a big deal at the time. It was shown closed circuit in theaters. The outcome was kept secret.

[@thomaspiccirillo6820]

IF ALI DOESN'T LOSE Those 3 YRS- G.O.A.T. - NO ARGUMENT- MY G.O.A.T. ANYWAY- ALWAYS-NO ARGUMENT-

[@MrDidaxi]

Norman Mailer’s contemplations are amazing.

[@jorarai5358]

Excuse me ? ALI WAS A GREATEST HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION EVER BORN , but a down to Earth for public

[@bg147]

It is funny how Ali had to go on and on to discredit computerized outcomes of boxing matches. Today, everyone knows any computerized result means next to nothing. However, back then, everyone was in awe of computers. Those results were a big deal to some.

[@lwmson]

That's true. But there would have been no way that a computer would have forseen an outcome to an event.

[@gatchrocks]

He always had somethi g to share. He was well spoken and intelligent and many tried to shame him to be silent.

[@chrisbennett606]

This is brilliant

[@paraworldblue]

Oh, Norman, you truly had no idea how bad it would really get.

[@jorv1971]

This guy was way ahead of his time.

[@DBMe33]

What is the person's name that Ali mentions, that sounds like he's saying 'mari-jauna?'

[@CC-Tron]

Murray Woroner

[@kuruman1]

I read somewhere that Ali’s IQ was tested at 77. Such bunk. He was a smart dude.

[@AllUAreIsHistory]

I'd take IQ tests with a pinch of salt, wasn't Ali an illiterate? But you listen to him talk for more than five minutes and you'd never believe it, clearly a very smart and articulate man

[@duprez2]

@@AllUAreIsHistory Muhammad could barely read because he suffered from dyslexia. He barely finished high school because of that.

[@AllUAreIsHistory]

@@duprez2 I remember one of the Michael Parkinson interviews where Parky said read it yourself and Ali took great offence because he thought Parky knew he wasn't a strong reader and was trying to mock him, you can see Ali gets a little angry about it, but in reality Michael Parkinson had no knowledge of it.

[@LUKERs1196]

Ali is the most well spoken and one of the mist commonly intelligent athletes to ever exist Wasn't Einstein himself told he would become nothing in the academic world

[@baronesselsavonfreytag-lor1134]

Muhammad Ali had an innate eloquence because he loved Truth.

[@the_fat_ghost]

4:12 Mailer hitting the mark on large language models and machine learning in 1970! I get that these are old concepts, but that is some Arthur C. Clark level prognosticating.

[@thomaspiccirillo6820]

HE HATED LOSING MORE THAN HE LOVED WINNING=THE GREATEST

[@joshlewis575]

That's a common trait with the greatest of great athletes

[@mikecesa4444]

Who likes losing? No one!

[@user-nw6qp1ki2n]

Ali 🧡💚💙

[@DeLorean4]

4:15 to think we now live in a time when A.I. was able to do just that (to an extent) and even do things such as create new musical works from the collected works of deceased composers (with more success). Or how we've put deceased or de-aged actors in movies. The first/second stomach analogy is also a prediction of issues encountered with biased datasets. Absolutely brilliant.

[@blackknight7072]

what does that say, never trust a computer lol

[@joerivandeweyer3056]

Like the trillion dollar nasa scam which only gives renderings not pictures based on which data humans put in but hey the fanboys love it

[@NxDoyle]

@@joerivandeweyer3056 You're a fool.

[@BigLee93]

don't get me wrong, it's a beautiful invention

[@Music80800]

@@joerivandeweyer3056 What an ignorant... I really wanna insult your "intelligence"

[@Wheresnorth4romhere]

Im guessing the other guy is Norman Mailer?

[@thomaspiccirillo6820]

CORRECT

[@jennifersman7990]

He was a frequent guest on Cavett’s show, he always guaranteed a spirited discussion and there’s a famous clip of him and Gore Vidal really going at each other until Cavett shuts up Mailer big time

[@thehouseofautumnspells258]

What about BattleBots?

[@jamesagwe2981]

Rip Mr Ali

[@sachac5435]

interesting and here we are in the dawn of ai and how true

[@Gannooch]

I have nothing against the other celebs that were on this show but is this channel ever going to show the Dick Cavett shows where he interviews Jackie Gleason or Art Carney? How about any Honeymooners actors that were part of the main cast? These are rare much like all the other Dick Cavett interviews

[@angelduran7277]

A computer from 1970? ... LOL!

[@lucasoheyze4597]

The moon landing was a year earlier

[@lucasoheyze4597]

@buster hyman Maybe, as a physically achieved thing, but I don't think the computing element was hoaxed.

[@mikecesa4444]

There have been super computers for years going back a decade earlier than that. Just not home computers.

[@sirdollarjonesii9400]

So then we really are in a simulation...

[@filmnobelpreis]

Nowadays AI literature is all over the place..

[@daviddufresne343]

I don't know about all the comments people are making, but what I do know today is no one, and I repeat NO one, can beat a computer at chess today. It's the equivalent of the greatest player in the world playing a guy who's "pretty good" in his town. The AI knows all the book moves and it can also see thousands if not hundreds of thousands of potential outcomes.

[@TheBreezus]

Oh man if only they knew.

[@mashu1766]

They had cgi back then.

[@tomatoking3149]

Boy would they feel stupid now with artificial intelligence deciding battlefield decisions and business intelligence helping to make very costly decisions

[@user-yp3oj5se1i]

" now with artificial intelligence "??? That's still feeding information into the computer as he described and computers still can't think the same way we do. No computer is used to 'decide' on battlefield decisions, they are used obviously but they don't ask a computer who they should attack or decisions like that. They are used in order for humans to then make decisions. When we use a calculator to help us decide upon how much money something costs over time or how much is owed etc that's how they are used.

[@thefakenewsnetwork8072]

Long live eugenics and communism