Muhammad the Divine Creator?!? - The Origin of Muhammad - Episode 9

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CIRA International

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3 ай бұрын

The creation story of Islam claims that Muhammad was made from God’s own light before any other creation, and through that light, Adam was born. Yet, Muslims deny that this is referring to Jesus, but they also deny it refers to their own prophet of Allah. If it isn’t Islam’s Muhammad and it isn’t the Judeo Christian’s Jesus, then how do they explain this term? Watch as Al Fadi and Brother Mel continue this riveting series proving that the Qur’an continuously refers to Jesus when using the title Muhammad.
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@mikejohnson5059
@mikejohnson5059 3 ай бұрын
This must be taught in every high school and college
@ASMRyouVEGANyet
@ASMRyouVEGANyet 3 ай бұрын
​@@HomerMr500 is it up to that many? 😂 Why stop there?
@thetopcat8946
@thetopcat8946 3 ай бұрын
Refreshing to see an Irish man here. I live in Enniskillen N.Ireland
@IslamicOrigins
@IslamicOrigins 3 ай бұрын
I have been up there many a time. Lovely town. Mel
@Klaus.anal.Schwab
@Klaus.anal.Schwab 3 ай бұрын
GLORY TO OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST.
@HillbillyYEEHAA
@HillbillyYEEHAA 3 ай бұрын
Lol your name. I looked at the dp thinking it was dear old klausey
@Klaus.anal.Schwab
@Klaus.anal.Schwab 3 ай бұрын
@@HillbillyYEEHAA 🤣
@defenderoftruth3212
@defenderoftruth3212 3 ай бұрын
@@Klaus.anal.Schwab ............................... How unfortunate for our prophet, Prophet jESUs (pbuh). Even though it is against his will and contrary to his teachings, he was being made a man-made pagan god by the Romans as a substitute for Emperor Romulus who mysteriously disappeared from his chariot during a parade at a town plaza when a lightning struck it. The Romans believed that their emperor ascended to heaven and became one of the brightest stars called Uranus. And so they worshipped Uranus as their pagan god. But when the Romans made their conquest to other countries, they substituted Uranus to Prophet jESUs (pbuh) as their pagan god since Uranus did not anymore appeal well to their conquered countries. Under the guise of spreading religion, they thought that making Prophet jESUs (pbuh) as a front for their religious campaign, it will them make easy to convince the people to bow to them. Thus, Prophet jESUs (pbuh) became the rallying cry of the Romans. And they were successful. So, up to today, Prophet jESUs (pbuh) becomes the god of Christianity. Maybe, before Christianity, the Romans had thought of the idea that the name of their religion would be Romanticity, or Romanticism. But their bishops maintained the name of their religion as Christianity since they are using Prophet jESUs (pbuh) as their god. It is for this reason that no Jew in Israel, a place where he came from, did not recognize him as some kind of a divine being. Thus, the Jews maintained their religion as Judaism. Christianity thrived only in Rome. Hence, the name "Jesus" does not ring a bell today in Israel. If you ask a Jew today in Israel if he knows "Jesus", his answer will be a resounding NO.!!! To get further information on how Christianity and “Jesus” are invented in Rome, see the video with the title: THE CAESAR’S MESSIAH. -02-14-24
@DevonPhoenix
@DevonPhoenix 3 ай бұрын
Amen
@defenderoftruth3212
@defenderoftruth3212 3 ай бұрын
@@DevonPhoenix ................. One verse in the Bible that made Bishop Kleopas of the Philippines convert to Islam: JOHN 17:3. And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. -02-19-24
@ashokbhyrodoyal5494
@ashokbhyrodoyal5494 3 ай бұрын
God bless you Brother Al Fadi. Keep up the good work
@lubacalculli
@lubacalculli 3 ай бұрын
Wow! Amazing presentation! ❤🙏
@christophermachoko9639
@christophermachoko9639 3 ай бұрын
Those that mean that Muslims don't have access to this information or their hearts have been hardened? Is a very unfortunate situation.
@fvin6233
@fvin6233 3 ай бұрын
thank you for this very educational production
@ryanjuanico4498
@ryanjuanico4498 3 ай бұрын
Praised be our Father, the only true God, and Jesus Christ His Light and Messenger.
@hanifaroy1720
@hanifaroy1720 3 ай бұрын
GOD BLESS YOU BROTHERS FOR THE TRUTH TO EXPLAINING BLESSINGS 🙏
@kb4432
@kb4432 3 ай бұрын
“He was sober and abstemious in his diet, and a rigorous observer of fasts. He indulged in no magnificence of apparel, the ostentation of a petty mind; neither was his simplicity in dress affected, but the result of a real disregard to distinction from so trivial a source … In his private dealings, he was just. He treated friends and strangers, the rich and poor, the powerful and the weak, with equity, and was beloved by the common people for the affability with which he received them, and listened to their complaints … His military triumphs awakened no pride nor vain glory, as they would have done, had they been effected for selfish purposes. In the time of his greatest power he maintained the same simplicity of manners and appearance as in the days of his adversity. So far from affecting regal state, he was displeased if, on entering a room, any unusual testimonial of respect were shown to him.” [10] Washington Irving: American diplomat, biographer, and historian who is often referred to as the “first American man of letters” (1783-1859)
@kb4432
@kb4432 3 ай бұрын
You see my sister, the prophet(pbuh) was a humble human being. He stood up for the poor and destitute. He kept himself poor even though he became leader of Arabia. He had the most beautiful manners and always smiled. We believe in and follow his character. You will see thousands of videos of westerners who travel to Muslim countries and are shocked to see the love and kindness they get from the Muslims. They love the halal food and the culture. They are inspired by the beautiful mosques and call to prayer (Adhan). They say it's better than any Christian country. They shocked because media is hateful and lying against Islam and Muslims. When they ask why are you so nice, they say it's from our religion. Watch those videos sister. Don't follow the haters who only lies. Peace be to you
@IslamicOrigins
@IslamicOrigins 3 ай бұрын
The material for this video was kindly shared with me by Lloyd De Jongh..
@Niles-Guy
@Niles-Guy 3 ай бұрын
Another hole in the narrative
@defenderoftruth3212
@defenderoftruth3212 3 ай бұрын
@Niles-Guy Know this BIG HOLE in the Bible: Why is it the BIOGRAPHY of Prophet jESUs (pbuh) is TOTALLY HOLEY? And why the Christians are not fully aware about this HUGE HOLE? Is this what is being called a BLIND FOLLOWING? Is the story of the life of Prophet jESUs (pbuh) NOT IMPORTANT to them when in fact, they should oblige themselves to know every minute detail of it? What is the use of venerating him when they know only a little about him? As can be observed that in spite of the 4 narratives depicted in the 4 make-believe gospels, the 4 Greek writers failed to give the full account of the life of Prophet jESUs (pbuh). The narrative started from year 1 which tells about his miraculous conception and his birth, and then it jumped immediately to year 30 which tells about his preaching of the Aramaic Gospel to the children of Israel (Jews), and ended in year 33 where he was allegedly crucified and ascended to heaven. 28 years from year 2 to year 29 which comprised the primetime of his life are unaccounted for. Indeed, what a BIG, BIG HOLE it is!!! Such a man who hailed from a miraculous beginning cannot escape the curious and inquisitive eyes of the people. So, it could not be that there is no narrative for those 28 years. It could not be that out of his 33 years on earth, only 5 years were accounted for and having narrative. Those 28 years must have been replete with tremendous meaningful and wonderful activities. It could not be that after he ascended to heaven, people of his time blew all the memories about him into oblivion. The story of such a man like him who is revered and venerated by the people cannot easily be forgotten. But why did the 4 Greek writers skip the account of the primetime of his life? Is there something fishy that needs to be hidden? One cannot help to cast doubt that there is really something fishy in the narratives of the biography of Prophet jESUs (pbuh). Indeed, I smell something fishy. -02-14-24
@mysotiras21
@mysotiras21 3 ай бұрын
Muhammad as Divine Creator? That is hardly farfetched, since Islam treats Muhammad as either a demi-god or as the equal of Allah. Early Muslims were desperate to make Momo the superior of Jesus. The only way to do that was to tell extravagant stories about him, elevating him to divine status while continuing to proclaim loudly that he was just a man and a prophet. SMH. If Muhammad is really just a man and a prophet, WHY do Muslims PRAY to him daily???
@defenderoftruth3212
@defenderoftruth3212 3 ай бұрын
You totally misunderstood the very object of the prayer of the Muslims. Muslims pray to no other than Allah SWT. In all the positions of the prayer, standing, sitting, prostrating, Muslims would say: ALLAHU AKBAR. And: O, ALLAH .... Muslims would never say during the prayer: O, MUHAMMAD ..... Unlike the Christians, no one prays to the Father, but only to Jesus. IN JESUS NAME ...... -02-08-24
@mysotiras21
@mysotiras21 3 ай бұрын
@@defenderoftruth3212, total BS!!! Muslims speak DIRECTLY to DEAD Muhammad while they are praying to Allah. Here is what they say: "Peace be upon you, O Prophet, as well as God's mercy and His blessings." This, chum is PRAYING to Muhammad.
@juanbarus9420
@juanbarus9420 3 ай бұрын
@@defenderoftruth3212 well, momo, who doing sujuud in front of uzza, manat and lat totem. Not to mention the orientation when praying, straight to nowhere in other space, if their distance more than 1 degree rotation from kabah, since earth is round, some of them must pray straight on to the ground.
@defenderoftruth3212
@defenderoftruth3212 3 ай бұрын
@@juanbarus9420 .................... It is the intention that counts. Uzza, Manat, Lat were the pagan gods of the pagan Arabs before the advent of Islam through Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). Maybe if you use your common sense wisely, you would be able to think that had Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was doing sujuud to Uzza, Manat and Lat, the people of the entire Arab countries would not have embraced Islam, but have remained pagan Arabs. Sometimes, common sense would help a lot to let you think logically. -02-14-24
@gentz8310
@gentz8310 3 ай бұрын
This puts Islamic Muhammad on the same level as Scientology's Xenu character. Pure fiction
@defenderoftruth3212
@defenderoftruth3212 3 ай бұрын
@gentz28310 .............. Let us try to give a comparison between Prophet jESUs (pbuh) and Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) so as to know if who really is the pure fiction. * The people of Saudi Arabia and entire Arab countries (Arabs) have became Muslims because of "Muhammad". If you go to those countries and ask the people if they know "Muhammad", their immediate answer will be a resounding YES. * The people of Israel (Jews) did not became Christians. Their religion remained as Judaism. Christianity was established in Rome. If you go to Israel and ask the people if they know who is "Jesus", their answer will be resounding NO. Which the two of them is a pure action. -02-14-24
@gentz8310
@gentz8310 3 ай бұрын
@@defenderoftruth3212 Check out historical facts. For Muhammad in Mecca you have 0 evidence from 7th century. Everything was written 250 years later.
@defenderoftruth3212
@defenderoftruth3212 3 ай бұрын
@@gentz8310 ................ The facts have already shown in your very eyes. I have already given you the very facts for your comparison. The facts already speak for themselves. What is there to check out when you are dealing with the facts themselves? -02-15-24
@gentz8310
@gentz8310 3 ай бұрын
@@defenderoftruth3212 Written evidence please from 7th century for Muhammad in Mecca!
@defenderoftruth3212
@defenderoftruth3212 3 ай бұрын
@@gentz8310 ................... One verse in the Bible that made Bishop Kleopas of the Philippines convert to Islam: JOHN 17:3. And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. -02-19-24
@pj-vu3cn
@pj-vu3cn 3 ай бұрын
Keep up the good work! 😄
@xavierbesnard9201
@xavierbesnard9201 3 ай бұрын
More and more evident !
@owusu-quansahk.daniel6455
@owusu-quansahk.daniel6455 3 ай бұрын
Powerful insights there
@hmao4466
@hmao4466 3 ай бұрын
Wonderful content today. Very important information.
@ethercruiser1537
@ethercruiser1537 3 ай бұрын
Amazing. More evidence that “Muhammad” probably originally referred to Divine Jesus, not a human prophet born in the 7th Century.
@defenderoftruth3212
@defenderoftruth3212 3 ай бұрын
Mr. Mel Who is now digging into who Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) really is. And he cannot accept it. Actually the name Muhammad was already there before the creation of Adam. So Adam thought that was already a man created before him. But that was a name of the Prophet, and not his physical body. It is the reason that all prophets, beginning from Adam down to Prophet jESUs (pbuh), had made a Covenant with Allah SWT to support in his mission, and to announce to the people about his coming. To claim that the name Muhammad referred to Jesus is totally delusional. 3:81. And [recall, O People of the Scripture], when Allah took the Covenant of the prophets, [saying], "Whatever I give you of the Scripture and wisdom and then there comes to you a Messenger confirming what is with you, you [must] believe in him and support him." [Allah] said, "Have you acknowledged and taken upon that My commitment?" They said, "We have acknowledged it." He said, "Then bear witness, and I am with you among the witnesses." Prophet jESUs (pbuh) is the only prophet whose fulfillment of the Covenant with Allah SWT was recorded. But it doesn't mean the previous prophets did not fulfill the Covenant. It is just that their fulfillment of the Covenant was not recorded. 61:6. And [mention] when Jesus, the son of Mary, said, "O children of Israel, indeed I am the messenger of Allah to you confirming what came before me of the Torah and bringing good tidings of a messenger to come after me, whose name is AHMAD." But when he came to them with clear evidences, they said, "This is obvious magic." -02-08-24
@ethercruiser1537
@ethercruiser1537 3 ай бұрын
@@defenderoftruth3212 The blind leading the blind (into Perdition). Good luck on Judgement Day with your sins still stuck to you!
@criticalsage
@criticalsage 3 ай бұрын
@@defenderoftruth3212allah is not a god but satan. The best of all deceivers
@sultanahamed2484
@sultanahamed2484 3 ай бұрын
Dear Jesus never existed on the planet
@ethercruiser1537
@ethercruiser1537 3 ай бұрын
@@sultanahamed2484 Even unbelieving Ancient historians agree and recorded the basic facts surrounding Jesus’s birth, ministry, apparent miracles, persecution unto death on a cross and apparent Resurrection (of course the unbelieving Ancient historians don’t believe he was Resurrected, but were trying to end this “pernicious superstition”). And no historian today that is reputable denies the existence of a historical Jesus! Jesus is probably coming soon in the clouds to Rapture the Church, then comes 7 years of Tribulation then Jesus comes to earth and defeats the.AntiChrist and will establish his Millennium Kingdom from Jerusalem. Accept Jesus now as your Messiah or take your chances in the Tribulation, which are poor!
@thunderous-one
@thunderous-one 3 ай бұрын
Lloyd de Jong covered this a couple years ago
@beefymario88
@beefymario88 3 ай бұрын
Mel credits Lloyd in the video.
@pepsicherry6389
@pepsicherry6389 3 ай бұрын
thank you
@saloanyousif3308
@saloanyousif3308 3 ай бұрын
God bless you
@CSAcitizen
@CSAcitizen 3 ай бұрын
Muhammad is a title that the man Quthurn gave himself when he was 40 years old. He was just a mere man, not some prophet. He is called a "prophet" but not once did anything happen that she claimed would happen.
@mozi4305
@mozi4305 3 ай бұрын
God bless You ,
@phearlesspharaoh3697
@phearlesspharaoh3697 3 ай бұрын
Wow… reading what you posted i was immediately reminded of the gospel of John 1:1-10… the Quran plagiarized it. 😮
@Wise007Man
@Wise007Man 3 ай бұрын
in one of the Sira's stories, a woman saw the father of Muhammad walking and asked him to sleep with her, he refused, and when she was asked why she asked this, she said she saw a "LIGHT" on his back and thought this must have been the promised Arabian prophet
@defenderoftruth3212
@defenderoftruth3212 3 ай бұрын
Is this not the story in the Bible?
@Wise007Man
@Wise007Man 3 ай бұрын
the story of an Arabian prophet in the Bible!?!@@defenderoftruth3212
@Wise007Man
@Wise007Man 3 ай бұрын
does the Bible tell us a story about an Arabian prophet?!?@@defenderoftruth3212
@Wise007Man
@Wise007Man 3 ай бұрын
I answered twice and it was deleted, I don't know why @@defenderoftruth3212
@Giant_Meteor
@Giant_Meteor 3 ай бұрын
This would be the Arian heresy, if applied to Jesus.
@sheribrogden9247
@sheribrogden9247 3 ай бұрын
There is much Gnostic heresy in the material
@wondergolderneyes
@wondergolderneyes Ай бұрын
Yeah, honestly all the 'emination' talk sounds very gnostic
@aaronmusa234
@aaronmusa234 3 ай бұрын
could y'all do a video for us on the 6k differences in the masoretic torah and samaritan torah. thanx
@defenderoftruth3212
@defenderoftruth3212 3 ай бұрын
@@garybowings1538 ............... Bart Ehrman had emphasized that thousands of masoretic differences in the Torah in his recent book THE BIBLE. -02-15-24
@defenderoftruth3212
@defenderoftruth3212 3 ай бұрын
@@garybowings1538 ................... You can find that thousands Masoretic differences of the Torah being clearly emphasized by Bart D. Ehrman in his book THE BIBLE. -02-19-24
@peteodonnell6219
@peteodonnell6219 3 ай бұрын
This might be offkey, but we do have three Magi in our accounts.? with respect to that first painting.
@danielalvarez5064
@danielalvarez5064 3 ай бұрын
Alonzo Harris believes wifey material is a 9 year old
@lovetwentyfourseven7428
@lovetwentyfourseven7428 3 ай бұрын
Montanus made the specific claim he was the one predicted to come by Jesus. That generation would not pass. Until the son of man returns. Montanus would be the overcomer the one who would come to the throne of God with Jesus etc.
@mysotiras21
@mysotiras21 3 ай бұрын
So? Montanus was a heretic.
@lovetwentyfourseven7428
@lovetwentyfourseven7428 3 ай бұрын
@@mysotiras21 They were the followers of John and revelation; he would be the predicted prophet to come the overcomer! Jesus said the generation wouldn’t pass away until the son of man came in power. They asked John, art thou the messiah? ….Art thou that prophet? There was a real prophet expected to come. All the early Christian followed Montanus as this prophet the Ahmad. they had written many books and poems; he specifically claimed to be Ahmad the truth. The one predicted by Jesus fill of the Holy Spirit. Etc. He was also an idol worshipper who then became a Christian. Etc. The whole story is some of what is in the Quran text. The Ahmad or truth. It sounds like he was the real prophet Jesus predicted to come before the genration ended. Apostle John was alive to his time. These montanist held onto these texts until the 6th century, Could these text have been taken and then interpreted into Arabic later by someone using these texts and reinterpreting them??
@mysotiras21
@mysotiras21 3 ай бұрын
@@lovetwentyfourseven7428, anything is possible. We still know so little of the real history of Islam in the 7th century.
@lovetwentyfourseven7428
@lovetwentyfourseven7428 3 ай бұрын
This Montanist prophet was revered all over north africa, all over THE BYZANTINE EMPIRE, all over the whole area, for over 400 years, he was revered from 135 ad, up to 600 ad, and beyond, the followers fled the byzantine empire, he claimed to be the very same prophet the mohammed claimed, he was an idol worshipper who had a divine revelation from the spirit, went into trances and wrote prophecies and poems, this guy was revered all over the whole christian world, as a prophet apparently, he sounds just like the story of ahmad in the quran manucsripts! he said he was the prophet, predicted as the one after jesus, wrote down many poem books, revered all over syria damaxus, i imagine they revered him all over, if these groups all lasted to the time of mohammed, and mohammed is supposedly reading from some ancient poems and texts that he is writing from, or reciting from, it sounds like a very similar story! Mohammed located the holy place in Petra Jordan from the original qiblah, from the old qiblah, of jerusalem! @@mysotiras21
@defenderoftruth3212
@defenderoftruth3212 2 ай бұрын
@@mysotiras21 ................. How could you know when you refuse to know?
@AdamosDad
@AdamosDad 3 ай бұрын
Pray for Muslims, that they will turn to Christ as Lord, because He died for them too.
@HaaraldEigerson1066
@HaaraldEigerson1066 3 ай бұрын
This is fascinating if it can be documented with a primary text. However, I tend to doubt that there’s such a text called “Mohammed and Mohammadism” any older than fifty years.
@IslamicOrigins
@IslamicOrigins 3 ай бұрын
The book is given below. It is a compilation of quotes from the Sirah and elsewhere in the Islamic tradition. Here is Koelle: drive.google.com/file/d/16IdMBpOvGQnGtc8wTEOZqFWu0KV8yx9B/view?usp=drive_link SW Koelle - Mohammed and Mohammedanism - a parody of Christ
@economician
@economician 3 ай бұрын
I am a Quranist muslim and this is not suprising to us. The statement ” and I testify that Muhammad is God’s servant and messenger” is cosidered Shirk and we do not say it in the salaat, in the testimony of faith or in call to prayer. In our tashahud during salaat we only say: Ash hadu Anna laaa Ilaaha illa Allaah = I bear witness that there is no other god except GOD.
@LovelyBorderCollie-sw9ig
@LovelyBorderCollie-sw9ig 3 ай бұрын
The Islamic statement of faith is known as the Shahadah and goes like this, “There is no God but Allah and Muhammad is his messenger.” It is the creed of every Muslim recited in faith, devotion, allegiance, submission and repeated in worship and in prayer. As you can see, in the shahadah, a Muslim pronounces his submission and allegiance to TWO BEINGS. Essentially that is what the shahadah is! A partnership between two beings - Allah and Muhammad. Muslims will object to this but they cannot deny that the shahadah declaration of Muslim faith and allegiance is incomplete if either one of those two Beings is omitted! Think about it. If a Muslim were to just recite, “There is no God but Allah” and stops there, the shahadah is invalid! One cannot even become a Muslim! This is an insult to Allah. It’s as if Allah cannot even stand on his own and he is deemed incomplete and useless without Muhammad! The Quran describes this “partnership” of Allah and his messenger in numerous ways. Muhammad’s words are the words of Allah. Muhammad’s commands are the commands of Allah. Muhammad’s laws are the laws of Allah.
@economician
@economician 3 ай бұрын
That is the sunny/shia creed but it is not the Quranic creed. The Quranic shahaada is the Shaahada that God utters and that angels and knowledgeable people utter as per 3:18: ”GOD bears witness that there is no god except He, and so do the angels and those who possess knowledge. Truthfully and equitably, He is the absolute god; there is no god but He, the Almighty, Most Wise.” The shahadah of the sunnis and shiites is the shahadah of the hypocrites, the enemies of the prophet as per 63:1: ”When the hypocrites come to you they say, "We bear witness that you are the messenger of GOD." GOD knows that you are His messenger, and GOD bears witness that the hypocrites are liars.” Furthermore God prohibits mentioning others beside HIM during worship, such as during salaat or during the call to prayers. Finally GOD makes it also clear that idol worshipers cannot worship GOD without mentioning others beside him: ” The places of worship belong to GOD; do not call on anyone else beside GOD.” 72:18 ”When GOD ALONE is mentioned, the hearts of those who do not believe in the Hereafter shrink with aversion. But when others are mentioned beside Him, they become satisfied.”39:45
@collybever
@collybever 3 ай бұрын
Yes it does seem idolatrous from a christian perspective (and probably Jewish), as in there were many prophets, and they could not put themselves on the same level as God. But then in our creed we do see Jesus as different, so "he shall be called Immanuel, that is God with us" Gabriel to Joseph, and Gabriel to Mary, who was to be the human mother, in that incarnation, the baby shall be conceived by the Holy Spirit, therefore he shall be the Son of God. Many prophecies about the Messiah, few about prophets to come, unless that was the Messiah himself or one's sent in advance of his coming, and 2nd coming, to prepare the way for Him.
@economician
@economician 3 ай бұрын
Is that biblical unitarianism? Because you said that Jesus was concieved by the Holy Spirit and THEREFORE he is called son of God. Maybe I have missunderstood you and you are a trinitarian, just wanted to check.
@mysotiras21
@mysotiras21 3 ай бұрын
Interesting. Still, the Qur'an is chock-full of errors, evils, contradictions, absurdities, plagiarized materials, and general incoherence. Sticking to it allows you to avoid deifying Muhammad, but leaves you with thousands of other insurmountable problems.
@inkyfingers3447
@inkyfingers3447 3 ай бұрын
They made Mo into Allah Jr. Allah Jr is equal to Allah Sr. Tawhid!
@almazchati4178
@almazchati4178 Ай бұрын
I have got another gem for you! Hidden at the end of Paul's supposedly letter to the Romans is the name of the author of the letter, Tertius, a slave not even worth having a proper name. He states that he wrote the letter. God is said to give something to Paul, and he passes it to Tertius for putting in a letter form to impress the recipients. Apparently the Christian God had not mastered the art of letter writing yet. Paul is a prolific letter receiver from God, must have checked out the letter to make sure that God's greetings are passed to all important people. In this instance though maybe he was busy with matters of flesh, he did not have time. So the recipients receive the greeting from God as well as from Tertius. Paul must have trusted Tertius to write very godly letters and probably rather than writing one letter a year, he must have used him to write Gospels as well. He must be a black slave from Egypt well versed in Greek and Greek epics. He had authority to write on behalf of Paul for sure. I assume that Paul was not around when he composed this particular letter. Otherwise, he would have Tertius remove his name from the latter. It must be an urgent matter. Furthermore, the letter implies that he himself was known to the recipients, and this may not be his first communication with them. Accidentally the real author of the Gospels shows his head up in a letter. He must have improved his skills over time, writing better and better Gospels over time. That explains the evolution of Gospels. Tertius was getting better and better at what he was doing. Tertius is the most likely author of the Gospels. He could not be a Christian.
@akkadian4709
@akkadian4709 3 ай бұрын
Machmed?!! The most original spelling of muhammad ive ever heard if!
@IslamicOrigins
@IslamicOrigins 3 ай бұрын
It is the original..ironically enough. .
@defenderoftruth3212
@defenderoftruth3212 3 ай бұрын
@@IslamicOrigins .................. Spelling is just written in consonants. But the verbalized name is Muhammad. -02-15-24
@EMBMAXIM..
@EMBMAXIM.. 3 ай бұрын
❤️👍
@kb4432
@kb4432 3 ай бұрын
“He was sober and abstemious in his diet, and a rigorous observer of fasts. He indulged in no magnificence of apparel, the ostentation of a petty mind; neither was his simplicity in dress affected, but the result of a real disregard to distinction from so trivial a source … In his private dealings, he was just. He treated friends and strangers, the rich and poor, the powerful and the weak, with equity, and was beloved by the common people for the affability with which he received them, and listened to their complaints … His military triumphs awakened no pride nor vain glory, as they would have done, had they been effected for selfish purposes. In the time of his greatest power he maintained the same simplicity of manners and appearance as in the days of his adversity. So far from affecting regal state, he was displeased if, on entering a room, any unusual testimonial of respect were shown to him.” [10] Washington Irving: American diplomat, biographer, and historian who is often referred to as the “first American man of letters” (1783-1859)
@kb4432
@kb4432 3 ай бұрын
“…he was Caesar and Pope in one; but he was Pope without the Pope’s pretensions, and Caesar without the legions of Caesar. Without a standing army, without a bodyguard, without a palace, without a fixed revenue, if ever any man had the right to say that he ruled by a right Divine, it was Mohammed; for he had all the power without its instruments and without its supports.” [12] The Most Reverend Benjamin B. Smith: British bishop, lecturer, and fellow of Trinity College, Oxford (1794-1884)
@kb4432
@kb4432 3 ай бұрын
“If greatness of purpose, smallness of means, and astounding results are the three criteria of human genius, who could dare to compare any great man in modern history with Muhammad? “… Philosopher, orator, apostle, legislator, warrior, conqueror of ideas, restorer of rational dogmas, of a cult without images; the founder of twenty terrestrial empires and of one spiritual empire, that is Muhammad. As regards all standards by which human greatness may be measured, we may well ask, is there any man greater than he?” [11] Alphonse Lamartine: French author, historian, poet, and statesman (1790-1869)
@collybever
@collybever 3 ай бұрын
Those do show an alternative explanation perhaps, as in those you quote were not very familiar with the Quran and hadiths, and were projecting their own idealisation upon this religious figure associated with the Quran. As in the hadiths show a lot of mafia-like and bandit style behaviour, the Quran is here pious, there frighteningly narcissistic. There is this feature of human minds, of synthesizing things, and getting carried away with those ideas, which can be great fun creating, give a real buzz, but then one really needs to be factual and not invent stuff, when it comes to important matters.
@mysotiras21
@mysotiras21 3 ай бұрын
Uh huh. Do you REALLY think that Washington Irving was an "expert" on Islam??? VERY unlikely. Had he said something unflattering about Muhammad, you would yelp that he was ignorant. I can give you a HUGE list of REAL experts who thought that Muhammad was bewitched, or a shameless plagiarist, or suffered from epilepsy. That he was a murderous monster, rapist and p-dophile. That he was mentally ill, also a horrible racist. That he advocated abuse and denigration of women. Etc etc. You will NEVER win by cherry-picking the few nice things that UNEDUCATED Kuffar have said about Muhammad, while simply ignoring the negative opinions of the majority.
@defenderoftruth3212
@defenderoftruth3212 3 ай бұрын
@@collybever ................... Those who made positive comments to Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) may have had studied thoroughly the story of his life. Giving praises to a man whom you don't even know who he is would be making a fool out of yourself. But the fact that they were able to give such incredible praises would mean that they were well-informed about the Prophet. -02-08-24
@thunderous-one
@thunderous-one 3 ай бұрын
Ok, so the first thing that Allah made was Mohammed’s light/spirit? Mmmm, here some of my questions.... (1) Was the light/spirit conscious? (We would have to assume yes if he’s the companion of Allah at the beginning). (2) So Mohammed was present at the time of the Qurans existence in Allah’s heaven? (So what really came first?) (3) Mohammed would also be present (conscious) at the time of the creation of the angels? (Islamic angels do not posses free will) (4) Mohammed would also be present (conscious) at the time of the creation of the Jinn? (Jinn posses free will) (5) Mohammed would also be present (conscious) at the time of the creation Adam & Eve? (In Allah’s heaven) (6) Mohammed would also be present (conscious) at the time of the creation the physical universe? (7) Mohammed would also be present (conscious) at the time Allah commended the angels/Jinn to bow to Adam (erm, why?🤔) (8) Was Mohammed commanded to bow to Adam too? (9) If so, why? (10) If not, why is his presence not mentioned? (11) Why are Mohammed’s conversations not recorded with Allah? (12) Why are Mohammed’s conversations with the angels/Jinn/Adam & Eve not recorded? (13) So, Mohammed would have known Satan, infact, after Allah, no one would have known Satan better, so how did Mohammed get fooled by the satanic verses? (14) Mohammed was in heaven for (in Islamic parlance. Adam/Mohammed are 2 of the 21) 19 generations of mankind, so how old was Mohammed before coming to earth? (15) Why was Mohammed not aware of his existence in heaven with Allah whilst on earth? (16) Why was the oldest creation in existence illiterate? (17) Why did Mohammed not recognise the Angel gibberish when he first met him in the cave? (18) Why did the angel not recognise Mohammed? (19) Why would Mohammed attempt suicide if he’s from heaven? (20) Why would Mohammed think he was going insane if he’s from heaven? (21) Why would he not recognise he was selected to be a prophet if he’s from heaven? (22) Why would his boss (wife) be more aware of this situation with no experience than the very man from heaven? (I have a talk based on khadija) (23) Why would Mohammed, marry a human? (She old, widowed and flesh) (24) Why would Mohammed have intercourse with a human if he’s from heaven? (Fallen angels and their nephilim offspring anyone?🤔) (25) If Mohammed was Allah’s 1st creation, how equal is Mohammed to Allah if Mohammed was not subject to Quranic law? (He had more than 4 wives) (26) If Mohammed was present at the time of the creation of the physical universe, then why is the Quran littered with pseudo scientific claptrap? (27) If Mohammed was in heaven, he would be watching human affairs for the first 20 generations, why is the Quran littered with pseudo historical claptrap? (28) If Mohammed was from heaven, came to earth, married women, had children, why did more or less all of them die? (29) If Mohammed was from heaven, came to earth as the 21st generation from Adam, what example was he setting to angels/Jinn/man when he raped a 9yr child? (30) If Mohammed was created before/just after the Quran, why did it take 20 years for it to be revealed? (31) If Mohammed was created before/just after the Quran, why does it contain abrogations? (32) If Mohammed was created before/just after the Quran, then why are there circumstantial ayat that serve Mohammed, conveniently? (33) If Mohammed was in heaven for 20 generations before coming to earth, why did he change the kibla some time after he was ordained as prophet? (34) If Mohammed was in heaven for 20 generations before coming to earth, why did he not mention/remember Mecca as it would be the oldest architectural construction in human history? (35) If Mohammed was the 1st thing created by Allah, why did he not take the bloody time to learn to read and write?😡 I have many more I could ask, suffice, this short list should serve as a good start.
@IslamicOrigins
@IslamicOrigins 3 ай бұрын
That last one was brilliant! 😂
@thunderous-one
@thunderous-one 3 ай бұрын
@@IslamicOrigins cheers dude!
@adrine5193
@adrine5193 3 ай бұрын
NO LIES ISLAM ☪️ DIES
@coffeecup7084
@coffeecup7084 3 ай бұрын
This should be exposed on every Christian channel
@benmoi3390
@benmoi3390 3 ай бұрын
Is it possible that originally thf shahada was a dualist instead of trinitary... As some joe still claim that the spirit of god above the water of the tohubohu was not the holy spirit... So that some judeo christian might has been dualistic... like the 2 head of god father Infinite and the spirit/messenger/light of god being the finite image of worship... And ignoring the holy spirit altogether rather as a element either of the father or the son The same way the eastern orthodox consider the holy-spirit to proceed only from the father not the son.
@criticalsage
@criticalsage 3 ай бұрын
Even their shahada means allah praise to muhammad.
@defenderoftruth3212
@defenderoftruth3212 2 ай бұрын
What a little brain!
@cityliving-rainforestperson
@cityliving-rainforestperson 3 ай бұрын
Isn't the Orthodox churches also has similar shahadah?
@JonK...
@JonK... 3 ай бұрын
These Sufi references to a created divinity for their prophet Mohammed look suspiciously as if they've developed that from the anti Trinitarian theology of the Nestorians and the Ebionites before them. What do you think?
@riasatmobashar9205
@riasatmobashar9205 3 ай бұрын
O Glory HALLELELUJAH! EXCELLENT series! Dear Brother AL-FADI and MEL, Just like Allah, Allah's SEAL is VERY OLD (WORN OUT)! Worn out seals produce DIFFICULT TO READ (CONFUSING) and sometimes UNREADABLE impressions. That is why, Allah's Seal (Mohammed) is FULL OF CONFUSION! Here is the description of THE PERFECT AND CLEAR IMAGE OF The Almighty God (YAHWEH): Colossians 1:15-18 . "15 HE [JESUS] IS THE IMAGE OF THE INVISIBLE GOD, the firstborn over all creation. 16 For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or [e]principalities or [f]powers. All things were created through Him and for Him. 17 And He is before all things, and in Him all things consist. 18 And He is the head of the body, the church, who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, that in all things He may have the preeminence." Hebrews 1:3. "3 who [JESUS] being THE BRIGHTNESS OF HIS GLORY and THE EXPRESS IMAGE OF HIS PERSON, and upholding all things by the word of His power, when He had by Himself [d]purged [e]our sins, sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high". This PERFECT IMAGE of GOD THE FATHER speaks Himself: John 14:9-11. "9 Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? HE WHO HAS SEEN ME HAS SEEN THE FATHER; so how can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? 10 Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father in Me? The words that I speak to you I do not speak on My own authority; but the Father who dwells in Me does the works. 11 Believe Me that I am in the Father and the Father in Me, or else believe Me for the sake of the works themselves."
@LovelyBorderCollie-sw9ig
@LovelyBorderCollie-sw9ig 3 ай бұрын
Perhaps you doubt that calling Jibril a demon is wrong? Check out the opinion of others who were there at the time, according to the hadith: Narrated Jundab bin Abdullah: Gabriel did not come to the Prophet (for some time) and so one of the Quraysh women said, “His Satan has deserted him.” So came the Divine Revelation: “By the forenoon And by the night When it is still! Your Lord (O Muhammad) has neither Forsaken you Nor hated you.” (93:1-3) Sahih al-Bukhari 1125
@johnstag1391
@johnstag1391 3 ай бұрын
I catch the drift. However, the Logos or Word, is not created.
@OrdoMallius
@OrdoMallius 3 ай бұрын
Light of creation that existed before creation itself. Yep sounds like an average warlord from Arabia to me
@asifbrettishmaelmakki9
@asifbrettishmaelmakki9 3 ай бұрын
Hi.Be cautious of sufi's.Yes they pray alot and meditate,yet they lack a key ingredient of having crucified Christ. The nur in quran verse of olive oil nur upon nur,is refered to as refering to Muhammad. Yet i think that nur olive oil is Iblees and is created. Jesu Joy Of Mans Desiring - Bach has,soar to uncreated light,i think that is AL Nur and refers to Christ. Ps.My stance is Iblees and The Devil are different beings.I have not proof,yet think that The Devil is off-spring of Iblees.
@chasecomer6735
@chasecomer6735 3 ай бұрын
The son is uncreated. It doesn't jive with Christian theology
@Elioha-gt8pu
@Elioha-gt8pu 3 ай бұрын
Did Muhamned even excist as he was born 4years after his father died.
@defenderoftruth3212
@defenderoftruth3212 3 ай бұрын
Read the Seerah of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) so that you will not be talking like an ignorant person. -02-08-24
@wondergolderneyes
@wondergolderneyes Ай бұрын
I assume the consequence of this theory is that Muhammad was not a real person? How do you conclude this? Or is there significant legend-izing around a real religious leader?
@brandonjeeboo
@brandonjeeboo 3 ай бұрын
If Allah created the earth and everything in it then the 7 heavens why didn't Islam started then ? All of us Christians should've been Muslims.. what was Allah waiting for ?
@defenderoftruth3212
@defenderoftruth3212 3 ай бұрын
You have been a Muslim, but your parents made you a Christian. The religion of the angels and everything in heaven and on earth is Islam. God has only one religion. And that is Islam. Islam is a religion made in heaven. -02-08-24
@rooijemerwe7891
@rooijemerwe7891 3 ай бұрын
I believe in Jesus
@1powerequalsgod
@1powerequalsgod 3 ай бұрын
We know the story of Allah or Muhammad sitting on the throne is highly controversial and suspicious that something is up with the entire story.
@juanbarus9420
@juanbarus9420 3 ай бұрын
And what happened after sitting in throne with -lah is unimaginable, there's rain of... sorry, i cannot type it.
@lovetwentyfourseven7428
@lovetwentyfourseven7428 3 ай бұрын
Montanus would he the prophet that came in 135 ad. Montanus was that prophet Jesus spoke of in the book of revelation. Ahmad. Montanus wrote books and poems. The followers of montanus were around until 6th century. He claimed to be the prophet Jesus predicted. He was an idolater who became a Christian. Etc. A lot of his story sounds like Mohammed.
@mysotiras21
@mysotiras21 3 ай бұрын
Montanus was nothing but a clueless heretic.
@paladin5163
@paladin5163 3 ай бұрын
Does anything about islam ring true or make any kind of sense.
@user-rj8py9ld3j
@user-rj8py9ld3j 3 ай бұрын
Jesus always points us to God because we must know them both: One of the most important things Jesus said was that his Father is the only true God (John 17:3). He tells us that it is not those who cry ‘Lord, Lord’ that will enter heaven, but those who do the will of God (Matthew 7:21-23). Jesus said “he that heareth my word, and believeth on the Father that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life” (John 5:24). He said “my meat is to do the will of the Father that sent me, and to finish HIS work” (John 4:34). Jesus said, “I can of *mine own self do nothing:* as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because *I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me”* (John 5:30). Jesus prayed to the Father, saying “I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth” (Matthew 11:25). He said those who do the will of his Father “will know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself” (John 7:16-17). Why does Jesus point us to the Father? Because he knows the will of the Father is life everlasting, and that you must know them both to have eternal life (John 12:49).
@collybever
@collybever 3 ай бұрын
Well good, but also one does need to note that the Son is Himself God. John 17.3 is saying the Biblical God is the only true God as in people were often polytheists then, John 17.5 shows Jesus is not just human, as in praying that He be glorified with the Father, as He was before the world began. Our sense that humans are imperfect might tend to make us think automatically that God could not take on human form ... but then some messianic prophecies indicate the Messiah would be divine, God also appearing in human form in some Old Testament passages, not limited to being in heaven, and not feeling too high as to reflexively not visibly present Himself.
@mysotiras21
@mysotiras21 3 ай бұрын
STOP the stupid, tiresome cherry-picking. The ENTIRE Bible says that Jesus IS GOD. Get it and get over it.
@defenderoftruth3212
@defenderoftruth3212 3 ай бұрын
@@collybever ............................ jESUs has no glory. He has to beg to God to give him glory. But it looks like his begging was not granted.
@Yeshua027
@Yeshua027 3 ай бұрын
What heresies is Islam professing here?
@juanbarus9420
@juanbarus9420 3 ай бұрын
All of it, there's an orthodox monk from 7th century live in middle east write an essay about it, "Heresy of the ishmailites". That monk live with early moslem.
@robertjanssens4381
@robertjanssens4381 3 ай бұрын
here we go....Muhammad the anti-christ ?
@defenderoftruth3212
@defenderoftruth3212 3 ай бұрын
Muhammad is pro-Christ. It's those who followed Christ that are anti-Christ.
@sattaurnikki
@sattaurnikki 3 ай бұрын
This is so funny! 😂😂Muhammad was a man, nothing devine. 😢
@ishtarlew598
@ishtarlew598 3 ай бұрын
This sounds like Shirk
@rkaya1651
@rkaya1651 Күн бұрын
for the blind
@HastDuNichtGesehen
@HastDuNichtGesehen 3 ай бұрын
Das Problem ist mit den meisten Moslems kann man über solche Themen gar nicht sprechen ohne das einem 🥊 wenn nicht gar schlimmeres⚰️ angedroht wird. ❤️+🖖
@mysotiras21
@mysotiras21 3 ай бұрын
Ja!
@midimusicforever
@midimusicforever 3 ай бұрын
Jesus is God!
@aaronmusa234
@aaronmusa234 3 ай бұрын
Jesus returns !!!!! a pastor invites Jesus in for supper. p ' here ya go my lord our finest glazed ham ' j' what is this swine you place before me ' p ' no worries me lord Paul said its not what goes in your mouth thats filthy ' j ' how dare you think I would touch swine. and who is this Paul you speak of ' oy vey
@semperfi-1918
@semperfi-1918 3 ай бұрын
First
@greentea8900
@greentea8900 3 ай бұрын
Last
@happenedhappy8389
@happenedhappy8389 3 ай бұрын
I’m sorry but you guys are wrong no where in the Bible it or implies that the Lord Jesus Christ was created.
@Elioha-gt8pu
@Elioha-gt8pu 3 ай бұрын
Yeshua has a different purpose from Jahwe. YESHUA WASNT A SINNER, but Mohamned killed, stole, treatned, he was a liar, unfaithful, and a pedhofile. Hes not holy in any way.
@sidauf7894
@sidauf7894 Ай бұрын
We have the Quran produced by Imam Ali in the order the verses were revealed moments after our Prophets transitioned from this world. You have been lied too We know that the Prophet attempted to perform umrah and was stopped at Hudaybiyah which is in the direction and close to Mecca and not Petra you have been deceived We know the Prophet and Abu Bakr left Mecca to go to Medina they sort cover in a cave called Thawr which is close to Mecca and Hudaybiyah and are no way near Petra your been munipilated We know Abraham made other kaba’s for Allah Allah tells us in the Quran Both East and West belong to Allah, so wherever you turn, the Face of Allah is there. So our direction we turn is to Mecca We know Umar made an extension to the Mecca mosque and all the extension made to the kaba and mosque from the prophet Muhammad tell today both the kaba and Mosque have their history and it’s not Petra The Rocks you say we worship is false it’s the same as were you have been made by the earth from rocks building all over the earth have been made from the earth rocks cement don’t people love their houses We have our religion from Allah the Lord of All the Worlds we believe in Him we accept Him and follow Prophet Muhammad and His Family and Companions we have our guidance and Laws From Prophet Muhammad, who did exist and history confirms it, from the Roman Empire, the Egyptian empire, to the Persian empire, to the African empires, to the Arabian empires. We are happy with Allah as our Lord Muhammad peace be on Him as our Prophet We accept the Quran and Al-Islam as our way of life We can only convey and warn There is no compulsion in religion You have the chose to disbelieve or believe Weather you want Hell or Paradise it’s your choice Please stop attacking other peoples religions Peace and Love to All
@defenderoftruth3212
@defenderoftruth3212 3 ай бұрын
It should be NO surprise at all if the name "Muhammad" or MHMD can be found long before he was born. For there was a Covenant between all prophets and Allah SWT that they should support Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) in his mission and announce to the people about his coming. It means that the name "Muhammad" had been already announced to the people since the time of Adam, him being the first man and the first prophet. Therefore, it is no doubt that the name "Muhammad" had already existed long before his birth. However, the only recorded fulfillment of that covenant is the one made by Prophet jESUs (pbuh). 61:6. And [mention] when Jesus, the son of Mary, said, "O children of Israel, indeed I am the messenger of Allah to you confirming what came before me of the Torah and bringing good tidings of a messenger to come after me, whose name is Ahmad." But when he came to them with clear evidences, they said, "This is obvious magic." 3:81. And [recall, O People of the Scripture], when Allah took the Covenant of the prophets, [saying], "Whatever I give you of the Scripture and wisdom and then there comes to you a Messenger confirming what is with you, you [must] believe in him and support him." [Allah] said, "Have you acknowledged and taken upon that My commitment?" They said, "We have acknowledged it." He said, "Then bear witness, and I am with you among the witnesses." -02-20-24
@jamalbaraja6130
@jamalbaraja6130 Ай бұрын
All the prophets were chosen by God. What the sufis believe is not from the Quran. He is the chosen and servant of God and the last and final messenger to the whole world. You mention references that are not authentic. You are confusing yourselves . Do not involve the Jews because they do not believe in Jesus. Alfadi you are a liar because there is no mention in thr Quran and AUTHENTIC HADITH regarding these allegations.
@aaronmusa234
@aaronmusa234 3 ай бұрын
quran ' say he is one. eternal. he was not begotten nor does he beget. and there is nothing like unto him ' rules out Jesus. Muhammad. moses. no man can be god muslim since 2002
@aaronmusa234
@aaronmusa234 3 ай бұрын
@@garybowings1538 naw son. 'Muhammad was a man. many men died before him ' I think you got the kkk imperial wizard translation.
@defenderoftruth3212
@defenderoftruth3212 3 ай бұрын
@@garybowings1538 .......................... "Many" is not a general term. It has a limit. But if the term is "all" then your claim is right that it includes Isa. But since the term has a limit, then it could apply to even just one prophet that is not included. -02-15-24
@aaronmusa234
@aaronmusa234 3 ай бұрын
@@garybowings1538 nah son. t=yoyu may want to translate it that way but you have your own agenda. you and yours have decided to go down with the sinking sheep of christianity. the wide road Jesus said to avoid. good luck to y'all on judgement day. as for us muslims we will follow Jesus word ' greatest command is to worship our lord the one god only '
@prophetspath.319
@prophetspath.319 3 ай бұрын
Muhammad is not the divine Creator. Jesus is not the divine Creator. Only God is the divine Creator.❤
@defenderoftruth3212
@defenderoftruth3212 3 ай бұрын
@@garybowings1538 ........................... Allah SWT revealed the Qur'an which is recorded in the Eternal Record. -02-14-24
@defenderoftruth3212
@defenderoftruth3212 3 ай бұрын
@@garybowings1538 .......................... Let us analyze carefully what you wrote. 1. Allah SWT is the Creator of everything. Being the Creator, He is uncreated and eternal. 2. The Qur'an is revealed by Allah SWT to Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) progressively, or as Ahmed Deedat termed it like a "telegram". The verses were revealed in accordance with the need of the time, or by the call of the circumstances. So, it is created according to the need, and then revealed by Allah SWT Himself. But as He revealed the verses, they are being put into the Eternal Record. That is why there is a copy of the Qur'an in the 7th Heaven. My conclusion: 1. Allah SWT is uncreated and eternal 2. The Qur'an is revealed by Allah SWT and in the Eternal Record. The Qur'an has a time for its revelation and its recording to be an eternal book. Therefore, Allah SWT and the Qur'an are not co-eternal. -02-15-24
@syedosyedo6626
@syedosyedo6626 3 ай бұрын
What nonsense is this?
@mysotiras21
@mysotiras21 3 ай бұрын
This nonsense is Islam in a nutshell.
@defenderoftruth3212
@defenderoftruth3212 3 ай бұрын
@@mysotiras21 ...................... The nonsense in Islam will have all the senses in the Hereafter.
@thelinkofperfectioncharity9469
@thelinkofperfectioncharity9469 2 ай бұрын
​@@defenderoftruth3212You will need to take your passport in Hell before😂
@user-vp8pg3zq3m
@user-vp8pg3zq3m 3 ай бұрын
*Bible authors are still unknown until today. Also until today, nobody knows Mark, Luke, John, Matthew second name (family name)* 😄
@user-vp8pg3zq3m
@user-vp8pg3zq3m 3 ай бұрын
@@garybowings1538 *Thank you bro. I'm not arguing yet. Just telling facts*
@leechrec
@leechrec 3 ай бұрын
So what?
@Indah-tjs
@Indah-tjs 3 ай бұрын
No offence… this is one of the dumbest comments ever on KZbin, even emphasized with bold font. Asking for a family name for 1st to 3rd century people is the same as asking if Muhammad traveled from Mecca to Medina on a motorcycle or a Mercedes Benz! The first recorded family names are from Venice/Italy, which were introduced there to identify people in the 9th century! In your naivety, you believe that the evangelists should have given their family names 700 to 800 years earlier? Are you serious? 1) First of all, may I congratulate you on coming out as a kafir. Your "God" Allah has emphasized in Quran āl ʿim'rān (3:3) to have also "revealed" the Torah and the Bible. If you now speak of "unknown authors" of the Bible, you are contradicting your God and calling him a LIAR. Wonderful! 2) Whether the Bible was written by known or unknown contemporaries is completely irrelevant. Although the Bible was written by different authors over 15 centuries, it does not contradict itself and contains no errors. The authors present different perspectives, but all proclaim the same true God and the same way of salvation through Jesus Christ (John 14:6, Acts 4:12). Few books of the Bible give the names of their authors. By the way, papyri exist from a time not even 100 years after Jesus' death on the cross! 3) This laughable comment must not only be described as arrogant, but rather as a desperate all-round attack by someone who considers myths, legends and fairy tales to be "proven" truths. WHO are the authors of the Quran? - Unknown. The first known authors at Al-Azhar University date back to 1924, when the version of an impostor and text thief was chosen for political reasons. All other numerous different versions of "Allah's uncreated and unchangeable word" were destroyed. However, the authors of the completely different Quran of the 8th century and later thought they were being clever enough by adding "Do not ask questions..." to al-Maa'idah 5:101. * WHERE are the Qurans of Uthman ibn Affan? - They never existed! A Quran was first compiled only rudimentarily by a governor of Abd al Malik ibn Marwan, who called himself Al-Hajjaj ibn Yusuf, and who made a new anti-trinitarian ideology binding (first half of 8th century), which was finally called "Islam". To this end, he largely used biblical content, as well as pseudo-gospels and other apocrypha. * WHO are the authors of the Sira al Rasul? - They are unknown; there are NO written records. A German orientalist, Heinrich Ferdinand Wüstenfeld, started a search around 1860 for ALL the "Muhammads" he could find between the 8th and 10th centuries, and whose stories ended up relating to a single person, from which he then fabricated a "biography". These stories were then translated by Alfred Guillaume. * WHO are the authors of the hadiths? - Here, too, there is not a single proof of the existence of their authors, who are supposed to have lived between 250 and 300 years after the alleged death of Muhammad! Of the six so-called most reliable hadith authors, there is again not a single written legacy - absolutely NOTHING! All these hadiths were invented sometime between the 11th and 16th centuries, redacted back to the 7th century, and sold to the naive Islamic people as "traditional truths". And YOU dare to speak of unknown authors of the Bible who did not want to give their "family names"? You don't seem to know anything other than thoughtless and unintelligent parroting... SMH
@user-vp8pg3zq3m
@user-vp8pg3zq3m 3 ай бұрын
@@garybowings1538 I have no doubt at all about Allah and Prophet Muhammad. Nothing wrong about telling facts. If my facts are wrong then tell me. People deserve to know about facts
@user-vp8pg3zq3m
@user-vp8pg3zq3m 3 ай бұрын
So it means that believers in the NT are all following utter conjecture and anonymous words whose source we cannot know and neither can we trace back the words or verify them
@LuisVazquez-hx3bk
@LuisVazquez-hx3bk 3 ай бұрын
Muhammad is also the Holy Spirit because you can blaspheme Allah and if you repent you will be forgiven but if you blaspheme Muhammad you will not be forgiven.
@defenderoftruth3212
@defenderoftruth3212 3 ай бұрын
If you blaspheme Allah SWT, he will curse you to become ape or pig.
@akkadian4709
@akkadian4709 3 ай бұрын
You claim to be saudi fadi! I wonder if u can travel to Saudi given your stand on islam and muhammad!
@0786AHA
@0786AHA 3 ай бұрын
What nonsense did al fati came up with now ..😂😂😂😂 i can't wait...
@mysotiras21
@mysotiras21 3 ай бұрын
This nonsense is Islam in a nutshell.
@0786AHA
@0786AHA 3 ай бұрын
@@mysotiras21 pagans will never admit the beauty of Islam. 😂😂😂
@0786AHA
@0786AHA 3 ай бұрын
@@mysotiras21 a lot of very talented people become Muslims... Look up Jeffery Lang. Very talented professor of mathematics at university of Kansas is a Muslim. See his bio. We Muslims will not be chastised for the truth of Islam. 💯☑️☑️
@osamaalafghanee8868
@osamaalafghanee8868 3 ай бұрын
You did not do your homework,and you are just guessing.
@0786AHA
@0786AHA 3 ай бұрын
Yeap i thought so. You bake your cake and eat it too. Just nonsense... Bye. 💯☑️☑️☑️
@mysotiras21
@mysotiras21 3 ай бұрын
Do you have any EVIDENCE for this claim??? Of course not. You CANNOT refute what is presented here, since it is from Islam's own sources. So you lob a childish insult and RUN AWAY. Pathetic behavior that reflects VERY badly upon Islam.
@AntonioRodrigues-cc2fw
@AntonioRodrigues-cc2fw 3 ай бұрын
Without lies evilreligion evilislam dies, big iblisala's deception to destroy the creation of living God. Never trap. Jesus Christ is lord. Bless you both and the channel reach to many.
@reynoldthemagnificientthun463
@reynoldthemagnificientthun463 24 күн бұрын
SURAH 3:81 ISLAMIC ALLAH VS MUHAMMAD : ARE THEY IMPOSTERS OR ARE THEY FICTITIOUS CHARACTERS??? Surah 3:81: And remember when Allah took the Covenant of the Prophets, saying: “Take whatever I gave you from the Book and Hikmah (understanding of the Laws of Allah), and afterwards there will come to you a Messenger (Muhammad) confirming what is with you; you must, then, believe in him and help him.” Allah said: “Do you agree to it and will you take up My Covenant which I conclude with you?” They said: “We agree.” He said: “Then bear witness; and I am with you among the witnesses for this.” (Hilali-Khan) Allah took a covenant with the Prophets, saying: “Now that you have been given the Book and Wisdom; there will come to you a Messenger who will confirm that which is with you, you will have to believe in him and help him in his mission.” Then He said “Do you affirm this covenant and agree to take this heavy responsibility?” The Prophets replied, “Yes, we do affirm.” Allah said, “Very well, bear witness to this and I too bear witness with you.” (Farook Malik) A careful examination of Surah 3:81 reveals the following: (1) Allah made a Covenant with the Prophets who lived before the time of Muhammad. (2) These Prophets were called upon by Allah to pledge their support to a forthcoming Messenger who was to appear to them later. (3) The Prophets agreed and Allah secures their pledge to assist this forthcoming Messenger. (4) This coming Messenger will confirm the previous Book of Allah which is in the possession of these Prophets. (5) Since this Messenger will come during the lifetime of these Prophets, they will be on hand to personally witness his confirmation of their sacred Book. (6) Allah concludes the Covenant by bearing witness along with the Prophets to ensure the fulfillment of this divine agreement. (7) Therefore, Surah 3:81 testifies that Allah himself is a witness to this irrevocable Covenant which guarantees that there will be Prophets on hand to assist this forthcoming Messenger in his assigned mission. All Muslim scholars acknowledged that the Messenger mentioned in Surah 3:81 refers to none other than Muhammad. This conclusion is further substantiated in the above translation of the Qur’an by Hilali-Khan. This raises some very vital questions: Who were the Prophets who lived during the time of Muhammad to fulfill this Covenant of Allah? Who were the Prophets on hand to help Muhammad in his mission as the Messenger of Allah? Who were the Prophets present at the time of Muhammad to witness his confirmation of their Scriptures? None! Not a single Prophet, from among whom Allah allegedly made the Covenant with, was present at the time of Muhammad. Yet, Allah clearly testified to the presence of these Prophets during the time of this Messenger. In fact, Allah swore these Prophets into his Covenant for the sole purpose to support this forthcoming Messenger. And Allah bore witness in the Qur’an that these Prophets will be on hand to assist this Messenger in his mission. However, there were none - not even newly appointed Prophets to act as substitutes for these Prophets. This leaves us with two options: One: Allah was wrong in his claim regarding the presence of Prophets during the time of Muhammad. Two: The Messenger mentioned in Surah 3:81 is referring to someone other than Muhammad. Either option spells disaster for Islam. What is even more damaging for Islam is the fact that Muhammad excluded himself as the Messenger in Surah 3:81. Muhammad clearly ruled out the co-existence of any Prophets during his career as the Messenger of Allah. Muhammad openly testified to this reality when he proclaimed the following to his early Companions. Sahih Muslim, Book 30, Number 5835: Abu Huraira reported Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: I am most akin to Jesus Christ among the whole of mankind, and all the Prophets are of different mothers but belong to one religion and no Prophet was raised between me and Jesus. A well-known Islamic website was asked how many Prophets were there between the time of Jesus and the birth of Muhammad. Here is their reply: The only Prophet Allah appointed after He raised Jesus (a.s.) to Himself alive, was the Last and Final Messenger of Allah, Muhammad dur-Rasool Allah (saw). There are no Prophets between Jesus (a.s.) and the Mohamed ar Rasool Allah (saws). (www.islamhelpline.net) Muhammad clearly taught that “no Prophets” were raised between the time of Jesus and him. In other words, the only Prophet who came after the time of Jesus was Muhammad. This means that there could be no Prophets on hand to either welcome or assist Muhammad. However, Surah 3:81 clearly testifies that there would be Prophets available to assist this new Messenger. Since all Islamic scholars without exception recognized Muhammad as the Messenger of Surah 3:81, they must now explain why there were no Prophets at the time of Muhammad. Muslims cannot provide the name of a single Prophet who was a contemporary of Muhammad. The instant they come up with a name, they would be challenging the teachings of Muhammad. Here we find two conflicting teachings in Islam. Allah clearly stated in Surah 3:81 that there would be Prophets to assist Muhammad. In contrast, Muhammad taught that there would be none. Muslims have to choose between Allah and Muhammad. If Allah is right, then Muhammad is wrong. On the other hand, if Muhammad is right, then Allah is wrong. Either option destroys the legitimacy of Islam since this clearly demonstrates that one of them is definitely in error. As events unfolded, it became evident that there were no Prophets at the time of Muhammad. Thus, Allah was clearly in error. Man can make mistakes but not God. This fatal error of Allah in the Qur’an proves that he is a false god. As such, Muhammad was a prophet of a false god. Can a prophet of a false god be a true prophet? Absolutely not! This is an irrefutable evidence in the Qur’an that Muhammad was a false prophet. Muslims have to choose between a false prophet and a false god.
@sultanahamed2484
@sultanahamed2484 3 ай бұрын
U both schalors without collars first u ask ur people to be modest honest moral integrate considerate mannerful avoid robbery steal nudity intoxication than teach to people of other faith
@sultanahamed2484
@sultanahamed2484 3 ай бұрын
@@garybowings1538 iam day drinking water u r day dreaming🤯🤯🤯😭😭
@sultanahamed2484
@sultanahamed2484 3 ай бұрын
@@garybowings1538 sounds like wine
@sultanahamed2484
@sultanahamed2484 3 ай бұрын
@@garybowings1538 on the land u people convert water to wine no need to go up
@sultanahamed2484
@sultanahamed2484 3 ай бұрын
@@garybowings1538 proof ?
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