MHMD [09] Muhammad was JESUS' TITLE, then the Abbasids made him a PROPHET?

Mel now moves to the question often asked concerning when the word MHMD changed from being just a title, and became "Muhammad", the name for a man, or better, for prophet from Arabia?
The German scholar Karl-Heinz Ohlig, helps us here, citing Ibn Sa’d, who refers to 6 names which were used by the later Muslims for Muhammad:
-Muhammad (the Blessed/Praised One)
-Ahmad (the highly Praised One)
-Hatim (the Seal)
-Hasir (the Awakener of the dead)
-Aqib (the last prophet; concluder)
-Mahi (the Redeemer of sins)
While Muslims will quickly suggest that these are all legitimate names for their prophet, when you look at each of the definitions, they fit Jesus better than Muhammad, especially the names Hasir (the Awakener of the dead), and Mahi (the Redeemer of sins), neither of which would be said of the prophet of Islam.
Aloys Sprenger (d.1893) another German scholar noted the the letters MHMD were an epithet (i.e. a descriptive adjective) used for Jesus in the 7th century.
Yet another modern German scholar, Dr Robert Kerr suggests that that the 4 letters MHMD were all used by different language groups to refer to the "Praised One", such as 'Mehmet' (used by the Turks and the Lachmids), 'Machometus' (used in Latin), 'Mahomet' (used in French), and 'Muhammad' (commonly employed in Arabic).
Ohlig in his book "Early Islam" notes that the word MHMD is included in reference to the Messiah in the 7th century by Christians, who refer to Jesus as "The Son of Mary ('Isa ibn Maryam'); Muhammad (the praised one), the Servant of God ('Abdallah'), the prophet, the Messenger, the word, and the Spirit of God".
This clearly suggests that the Christians used this title for Jesus quite often in the 7th century, and continued to use it, according to Ohlig, up until 750 AD when the Abbasids came to power.
This supports the evidence that exists still in the 7th - 8th centuries.
Take for instance the coins of Muawiya from 663 - 680 AD, with his image holding a cross and another cross sitting on his head on the front side, while on the reverse side we see the letter M with a cross above it; yet, the word MHMD is printed below the letter M.
How can that MHMD be a Muslim, yet represented by a cross? Obviously the letters MHMD here are referring to "The praised one, Jesus Christ".
In 692 AD and again in 693 and 696 AD the caliph Abd al-Malik mints 3 separate coins with the 'Shahada' written clearly on them. Yet the rest of the inscriptions on those coins all attack Jesus' divinity, the trinity and his sonship. This suggests that the MHMD in the Shahada is yet again referring to Jesus Christ as "The Praised One".
In 730 AD John of Damascus writes his famous book entitled 'The Heresies of the Ishmaelites" where he also refers to MHMD, but by this time the title for Jesus is now changing into a reference of a prophet named 'Muhammad'.
But his Muhammad of 730 AD doesn't have just ONE book, but FOUR books, which are entitled the names of 3 Surahs of today's Qur'an (The Cow = Surah 2, the women = Surah 4, the Table = Surah 5, and the Camel, which is no Surah at all).
In conclusion Mel suggests that the term “Mhmd” functioned both as a reference to God and to Jesus.
It seemed to apply to God in the 6th century Jewish inscription. (Or to perhaps to a contemporary Jewish figure).
It then applied to Jesus in the 7th century coins, as well as on the Dome of the Rock.
It applied to Jesus in the Qur’an.
It was used as a Messianic epithet by the Christians.
This then later got re-interpreted and applied to an “Arabian Prophet”. Vestiges of the earlier meaning are still evident in the Islamic traditions that refer to Adam being created from the “light of Muhammad.”
So, when did the word MHMD get changed from a title for Jesus Christ and become the name of the prophet of Islam?
We can't know for certain, because the Abbasids, who came to power in 749 AD pretty much destroyed all the records of the "hated" Umayyads, and with it any references to an evolving prophet named Muhammad.
What we can say is that the Muhammad we know today is not the MHMD of the 7th century Jesus Christ, nor the MHMD of History, nor the Muhammad of the Umayyads, but was a creation of the Abbasids, post 750 AD.
It was that Muhammad whom they then placed in a city called Mecca, who they say received a book called the Qur'an, and who then became the model and paradigm for every Muslim everywhere and for every place and time.
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[@Ghredle]

Karl Heinz Ohlig sadly passed away on 14 Jan 2024😢. Rest in Peace and thank you for your work telling the truth about Islam without Bias but from a genuine academic point

[@IslamicOrigins]

So sad to hear that.

[@goose8813]

a very great loss indeed! Thomas Alexander says that hearing Oehlig's interview with Saarland Radio about Oehlig's book "der frühe Islam" (Early Islam) is what first got Alexander interested in Islamic studies (unfortunately for English speakers interview is in German) pcast.sr-online.de/play/fragen/2007-04-09_fragen80407.mp3

[@kafirlindaclark6148]

It makes sense now when Hadiths say, " Creation was made for Muhammad, and were it not for Muhammed, neither would the world"!

[@normalisoverrated]

K.O!!! Islam is Finished. Without LIES islam DIES.

[@hneemann]

youll forgot the 1.3 billion slaves of satan....

[@AlonzoHarris235]

With lies Christianity still dies.

[@normalisoverrated]

@@AlonzoHarris235 God FORBIDS Lying. Mohammad practiced, permitted & has been proven to be a LIAR. Worst of all, muslims try to LIE TO THEMSELF, when they learn what mohammad actually did.

[@AlonzoHarris235]

@@nevetsM5CS You don’t believe that. If you really believed that. You wouldn’t take two non educated people as your highest authority. You would welcome experts in the field to engage with you. You are a sect. You are not interested in real scholarship. You want to repeat your nonsense on your fully controlled channel with yes men. That’s why you never respond to the arguments and evidence against these absurd claims by real experts. This channel proves that Christianity died.

[@trinitymatrix9719]

Amen, halleluyah, is lam is doomed. Soon or later billions will open up their eyes and its all over

[@jdschauss]

"The more we scratch, the more we find. The more we find, the more we shine. The more we shine, the more they whine. Oh how sublime!" God bless you, Jay and Mel!

[@michaelhughes7458]

You guys have to put this and all your other information into a book 👍👍

[@midimusicforever]

The standard narrative has huge holes!

[@commentfreely5443]

The standard lie has huge holes!

[@AlonzoHarris235]

The Christian mangod has holes in his feet in Christian theology. He couldn’t walk on water anymore.

[@mo_51_married_aisha_6]

Alonzo 👇 1) Allah 2) Muhammad 3) Al-lat 4) Al-Uzza 5) Manat 6) Black Stone Muslims believe in 6 gods. The first five mentioned above are in the Quran, and Allah asked Muhammad to consider worshipping 3, 4, and 5. #6 is an added bonus.

[@garybowings1538]

​@AlonzoHarris235 "Hello! He prophesied his DEATH! Hello! Just like Prophet Yahya prophesied his death. Hello! Read Surah 3 ayat 144. All the Messengers before Muhammad DIED! What part of that don't you understand?" - Alonzo Harris

[@defenderoftruth3212]

@@garybowings1538 ...................... 3:144. Muhammad is no more than an Apostle: Many were the Apostles that passed away before him. If he died or were slain, will ye then turn back on your heels? If any did turn back on his heels, not the least harm will he do to Allah; but Allah (on the other hand) will swiftly reward those who (serve him) with gratitude. YUSUF ABDULAH ALI 3:144. Muhammad is not but a messenger. [Other] messengers have passed on before him. So if he was to die or be killed, would you turn back on your heels [to unbelief]? And he who turns back on his heels will never harm Allah at all; but Allah will reward the grateful. -SAHIH INTERNATIONAL -03-02-24

[@azedinebenammar4339]

Hi Jay! I have good news for you. The Salamca Royal Library( Spain) just found a manuscript of the task force that worked during two years giving the final touch of the Coran under the supervisioñ of the Abbasid Khalifa Al Mansour. There are very surprising revelations for your fina blow!

[@tonymason8606]

Please give us a clue. How old is the manuscript. Any hints on it ?

[@monajohnson3321]

Do tell us more about it

[@Turkuazturk]

Is there any link for it

[@IslamicOrigins]

That would be post 750 AD. That'd be great evidence.

[@stlouisix3]

🎉🎉🎉😂😂😂😅😅

[@mysotiras21]

"Muhammad" is obviously a title, not a personal name. It was originally a title for Jesus. Thank you for summarizing the excellent research on early Islam, which is so damaging to the SIN. Islam simply cannot survive the careful, objective scrutiny it is now receiving. Hallelujah!

[@defenderoftruth3212]

This is nothing but envy. Because of envy, Mel Who and Jay Smith are now crumbling to obtain what Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) has and put the meaning of his name "The Praised One" to Prophet jESUs (pbuh). Prophet jESUs (pbuh) whose real name in Aramaic is ESU has its own meaning. I don't know if JESUS has meaning because ESU is only being Anglicized and Latinized by adding "J" before and "S" after, thus making ESU jESUs. What is really the meaning of ESU? Is it The Redeemer? Well, if that is the meaning of his real name, why not just accept it? Why resort to stealing the identity of another prophet and put it to another prophet? This is bad. Prophet jESUs (pbuh) with not be happy with this kind of bad attitude. It seems that he is unsuccessful with his teachings. -03-04-24

[@southbug27]

Nobody envies anything in Islam or about Mohammad, especially not Christians who worship the real God & study the real holy book. Read the Quran & Hadiths in your own language & then read at least one book in the Bible such as John in the New Testament & proverbs in the Old Testament so you have the basic idea of both religions & don’t embarrass yourself publicly with completely untrue statements.

[@mysotiras21]

@@southbug27, bravo! The idea of Christians "envying anything in Islam is so preposterously funny. Would you "envy" a sewer and its contents?

[@defenderoftruth3212]

@@southbug27 ........................ FYI, I had read the entire Bible from cover to cover. I know everything what's in it. But I doubt if you have read your Bible. -03-11-24

[@southbug27]

@@defenderoftruth3212 I went to a Christian elementary school with daily Bible class, church service during school hours, & church on Sunday with my family. Years of reading the Bible, listening to sermons & lectures online by professors who teach at seminary schools & in theology departments. Of course, your statement is a complete lie, & it should bother you that your religion teaches you to lie; lying is a sin of a person who lacks character, & in most religions, it’s a sin. You should listen to “The Bible in a Year with Fr. Mike Schmitz” here on KZbin. He reads the daily Bible verses while they appear on the screen. I notice you didn’t even bother to lie & say you’ve read the Quran or any of the Hadiths. If you had actually read the Bible & the Quran, you wouldn’t have posted that comment. I was once a defender of Islam, but then I began to research it to defend it to “Islamaphobes”, but I learned that every horrible thing they claimed about the Quran was true. I also learned that most Muslims don’t have any idea what the Quran, the daily prayers, & the Hadiths actually say because none of you read those things in your own language, & even worse, the Imams all lie to all of you, telling each individual whatever it will take to keep them enslaved to them & Islam. Several Imams have famously been caught admitting that, admitting that the Quran’s “scientific miracles” are all false & how to get people to stay in the religion once they have figured those things out. If Islam were true, then Muslims could ask all the questions they want to Imams, parents, & grandparents, but y’all get in trouble if you ask questions. Again, if Islam were the truth, the leaders wouldn’t kill anyone who leaves the religion to keep everyone else terrified & enslaved. Only cults & violent warlords & cartel leaders kill people for leaving & don’t allow people to ask questions. Mohammad himself believed it was the devil that first appeared to him, but Khadijah & her cousin talked him into saying it was an angel & he was a prophet. His 6-year-old bride, Aisha, liked to point out how strange it was that every desire that Mohammad had soon became what god wanted to, proving that she knew he was a fraud, conman, & that he used god as an excuse to make people participate in his sexual desires & perversions. I’m truly sad & heartbroken for everyone who has been led astray. If you do truly want to serve the real God, then I would think it’s an important enough priority to read your holy books in your own language. If you truly want to talk to Christians about the two religions, then it would help if you’ve actually read or listened to Fr. Mike Schmitz read the Bible. 💒

[@kafirlindaclark6148]

We know how screwed up Islam is "scripturally", but the deeper dive literally kills Islam. I thank our Lord for this research!

[@davie8906]

"Literally" ! 😂

[@defenderoftruth3212]

@kaffirlindaclark6148 ............... One verse in the Bible that made Bishop KLEOPAS DACLAN of the Philippines converted to Islam: JOHN 17:3. And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. Bishop Kleopas Daclan was a priest for 21 years at the Catholic Orthodox Church. He studied Hebrew, Aramaic, Latin, Greek languages, and found out that the translation of the Bible into English is totally erroneous. He then changed his name to MUSA IBRAHIM. Isn’t this worth pondering for? -03-02-24

[@kafirlindaclark6148]

@defenderoftruth3212 Absolutely not worth pondering for one second. You think that because one lost Bishop loses his faith in Jesus, that makes Islam correct? Hahahahahaha! I myself study my Scriptures, and the meanings of the original languages. Billions of Christians do. AND I study your ridiculous Islam the same way. Islam is so lost it couldn't find its way with an atomic blast lighting the path.

[@salvadormartin4203]

@@defenderoftruth3212so one passage in the Bible changed his Whole outlook? I known of a few priests that have left the priesthood and ended up in the arms of a waiting woman. Sex and carnal pleasure is a powerful force; even one Martin Luther. From no mate to four submissive bed partners is really enticing.

[@defenderoftruth3212]

@@kafirlindaclark6148 .................... Here is another EYE-OPENER to the Christians. Another PRIEST who had served for 45 years converted to Islam recently. GOULD DAVID, an Australian priest, after serving priesthood for 45 years, converted to ISLAM and changed his name to ABDUL RAHMAN which means "Servant of the Most Merciful". In most cases, CONVERTS would prefer to be called REVERTS since they are returning to their original religion. Is this not worth pondering as to why this Australian priest left his priesthood after serving for 45 years and joined the bandwagon of priests flocking to Islam? Is it not because he came to know that Christianity is TOTALLY FALSE? -03-03-24

[@pr7049]

A mere man cannot be The Praised One.😌😌😌 Islamic doctrines does not make sense.

[@jupitamoon7029]

Thanks for your important work.

[@user-jg3du2ko3q]

Disturbing news for Muslims. Keep it coming.

[@mikeigori2983]

Ramadan is around the corner.It's time to glutton,no fasting.Fasting is simply a cover-up.All supermarkets,fast food outlets, restaurants and cafes will be making millions,no doubt.

[@defenderoftruth3212]

One verse in the Bible that made Bishop KLEOPAS DACLAN of the Philippines converted to Islam. Indeed, this is a disturbing news to the Christians. JOHN 17:3. And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. Bishop Kleopas Daclan was a priest for 21 years at the Catholic Orthodox Church. He studied Hebrew, Aramaic, Latin, Greek languages, and found out that the translation of the Bible into English is totally erroneous. He then changed his name to MUSA IBRAHIM. Isn’t this worth pondering for? -03-02-24

[@sheikhboyardee556]

@@defenderoftruth3212 Sure, defender. You are not paying attention to the facts.

[@defenderoftruth3212]

@@sheikhboyardee556 ................. What facts are saying? All I know is the fact that Prophet jESUs (pbuh) is only a mere messenger and not divine. -03-03-24

[@bhaashatepe5234]

@@sheikhboyardee556 - the word religion is a modern concept - English adopted the word religion in 1200 AD. and the meaning of the word had been through an evolution before it was understood in its modern meaning. (Before Religion, A History of a Modern Concept) - the word DEEN was never been translated as religion before the 20th century. the questions need to be asked to Muslims: - when was the word ISLAM, meaning submission, bcome the brand of a modern religion, a concept that didn't exist in the 7th century. - DEEN ISLAM can also mean: submission as the way of life, hence the phrase 'the religion (DEEN) in the sight of Allah is ISLAM' can also mean 'the way of life that is acceptable to Allah is submission'. The Quran emphasize the importance of submission to the GOD (Al lah), but not to a man made concept (religion). - Thus, the prophet who lived in the 7th century didn't actually spread the religion of ISLAM because there was no such thing as religion at that time. He simply spread the message of submission to Allah. the Hadits that came 200 years later have muddied the understanding of the Quran.

[@julietabraham476]

God bless you brethren, as Pandoras box is opened .Keep up the good work..Ameen

[@FouadGuendouz-vy3wl]

I am XMuslim, born in Algeria. I remember very well how we were beaten in school at the age of six and even left school in order to learn these stories and lies in Islam. Great regret for the wasted years and all the bad memories with Islam that is taught to children by beating them in schools. Thank you for these wonderful videos. I learned English, which I believe is the best thing I have learned in my life. I got rid of this religious cancer and now I live a decent life with a mind worthy of a human being.

[@irishheritage893]

Another brilliant talk, thank you Jay and go raibh maith agat Mel.

[@uncensoredpilgrims]

This all serves to underscore that Islam is nothing more than a Christian heresy gone super-mutant.

[@fnjesusfreak]

Satan cannot create, only corrupt...

[@kaydee3407]

Done by the baramkids .. Star wars could be a retelling of this preisthood ..creating a dark side via a creation of an antichrist figure , the illiterate warlord..a sex crazed fanatic that destroys the innocence of 6 year olds.....ie the exact opposite of christ ..

[@JonK...]

Your reference to Chinese sources are most interesting. My mother's family's paternal ancestors were officers of the Chinese Court in the 700s-900s, and I've always found their sections of our zupu to be most confusing. It reads as if they encountered traders from two different Arabic kingdoms following and partly overlapping each other and that where there was overlap there was conflict. This now makes some sense.

[@diogenes2590]

When do we see a BOOK in which all this is addressed, written down, in lingo everyone understands, and translated in many languages?

[@HenrikRClausen]

Good question! I just watched one of your videos about coins, and remain unconvinced that 'Muhammed' was anything but a honorific title until well into the 8th century.

[@henryknox4511]

And another one gone, and another one gone Another one bites the dust...

[@John155-hq3hb]

Let's go Dr. Jay

[@wsv1975]

excellent program

[@openai395]

Gotta love the balloons

[@Primero.Christ]

Wikipedia should be updated with this data

[@haiderhannan8038]

I come from the Pashto speaking region of north Pakistan, an area which borders with Afghanistan. Prior to the establishment of international borders these regions also had a Truman influence. In the villages of these regions, the name Mohammad is written as Mohammad but pronounced as Makhmad or Mkhmd مخمد

[@Taydutt13]

When will we get another one of your seminar?

[@user-qi8ok8zt8m]

Brother Jay, We are concerned about Hatun's well being.... Is she in touch with you and safe.... Our prayers are with Hatun for her well being and of course for all of you who are defending us from dangerous anti-human Islamic ideology...

[@goose8813]

why oh why can't Pfander create play lists of series of videos???? It is very frustrating not being able to find all the videos in a series!!!!

[@davidabramovichkosciuszko4216]

❤

[@Zebred2001]

@9:33 does not the "islamic" coin on the left clearly show Mary and her baby?

[@joshmajumdar6673]

One year before I 4old to hatun tash 4hat Mohamad is not named its title and belongs to Tamil

[@karensaxon5846]

❤🙏✝️

[@urbandsouza7279]

Jay the coin m is it English or Arabic or syriac

[@leedza]

Probably Latin

[@ron88303]

Question: It's common knowledge that anyone drawing picture of Mohammed risks getting beheaded. Does the same risk apply to drawing a picture of Allah?

[@economician]

At Mel: the reference ” Muhammad Jesus” cannot be found when examining the works of the late Karl Heinz Ohlig, may God bless him with Paradise. Oxford University has looked into his foot notes but they cannot find the source. Do you have more information about this? Where can I read more about the chinese sources?

[@msm91]

I think you are right about it that Muhammad is titled name for Jesus Christ but some Arab changed into Muhammad from Jesus Christ.To show the power.

[@alikoubrujup_Argentina]

From above video, Jews are waiting for Messiah and that Messiah should be name MHMD( Jesus) ? Meaning, in their prayers, the name " MHMD " might be mentioned??

[@OrdoMallius]

Give us the Chinese sources

[@ekondigg6751]

They are mentioned in a couple of previous videos with Mel. I don't remember which ones. Anyone remember?

[@irishheritage893]

Look at Mel's play list. He did a number of history videos.

[@Thomas-pq5uw]

I read somewhere it is mohamedene Means beautiful

[@yoops66]

I'm always wary of people who take a single fact, assuming it is a fact, and build a whole theory around it. Here, for example, they don't talk about Mohammed's family, just that. However, IMHO the caliphs did indeed falsify the Koran and Islam to make it a religion of their own devotion.

[@salvatorefanara482]

Huge holes!

[@rdslayer738]

Maybe i’m not following these very closely and correct me if i’m wrong, but is saying that early muslims saw jesus as God? 😮

[@hetrodoxlysonov-wh9oo]

Jay, google Saladin coins.

[@britanikothegreat8513]

Ecclesiastes 3:10-11. Bone Fitness. Ecclesiastes 11:5. Isaiah 65:20. Genesis 35:11-12?!.Malachi 1:11.

[@huribenabdul]

Guidence from allah only other wise lots of knowledge stil blind to recognise truth.ask for guidence

[@britanikothegreat8513]

Genesis 12;1-3. Genesis 17:1-10. Romans 11:8-10. Bone marrow Cancer. Hebreo 4:12.

[@fredericflintstone-ik6kg]

messianic rabbi waraqah ibn nawfal thougt his cousins husbant was messiah and started training process. after nawfal died training stopped later other rabbis continued dictating book of jesus. after they realized he was not messiah waited for death and left body out three days so everyone see he will not resurect.

[@islandbwoy90]

Imagine following a person who killed Christians because he said he had a vision. Paul and Constantine have the same story

[@user-hc4ye4sk9d]

Ok. I have some doubts about this research. I can't really explain it, but some of it just doesn't sound right. Perhaps you can bring in one or two of these Germans you mentioned as confirm ing some of this, or others? I'm sure it's on the up and up as they say, but i want more concrete proof. I'm sure mel is doing honest research (he will be the first irishman that does; i mean c'mon, a country that has two tombs for Jeremiah?). I'm just saying, i need more.

[@IslamicOrigins]

Regarding the two tombs for Jeremiah, I have no idea what you mean. Never heard of Jermiah being buried in Ireland. Did you mean St Valentine? There are bones of St Valentine in Dublin and in Scotland, presuming the provenance is correct - but that is not diffcult to have multiple "tombs" as bone relics were often separated. (I have no opinion on whether the provenance of those bones is reliable or not.) It is good that you do have doubts, keep the scepticism, as we are dealing with incomplete evidence and are making tentative conclusions based on that evidence. There is a lot more evidence to come that will confirm that Islam is a Messianic religion that keeps thinking that different figures are the Messiah. These are sometimes called Mhmd (Muhammad), sometimes Ahmad, sometimes the Mahdi. The fact that the frequency of other figures in Islam over the centuries were treated as new Muhammads strongly suggests that it was a rolling title. Same as being a descendent of David was important to be the messiah, being a descendent of Muhammad was treated as important to be the Caliph, at least in Shiaism; the implication is that they were other Muhammads. The Muhammads had the divine right to rule. This becomes clear with Benjamin of Tudela's report of a visit to Baghdad, where he reports that the Caliph was treated as a Muhammad. Another piece of evidence is from St John of Damascus, writing in the 730s: "And so down to the time of Heraclius they were very great idolaters. From that time to the present a false prophet named Mohammed has appeared in their midst." How can a false prophet have appeared in their midst from the time of Heraclius until the 730s, a period of over 100 years, unless there are multiple Muhammads-false prophets each claiming to a Muhammad?

[@user-hc4ye4sk9d]

@@IslamicOrigins well then you need to do more research. There are two tourist sites in Ireland gor the tomb of Jeremiah where the children of Dan supposedly brought a princess of David to Ireland.

[@IslamicOrigins]

I'm surprised I never heard of it.@@user-hc4ye4sk9d

[@AFRIKTODAY]

Islam is by far the most fragile of the three Abrahamic faiths. That's why it is also the most authoritarian and the most aggressive. Its foundations are thoroughly political and ideological. However, all Abrahamic faiths are nothing but literalistic adaptations of far more ancient and even spiritually richer traditions in Ancient Egypt and Ancient Mesopotamia all the way to Persia and even beyond. Jesus, Moses, and Muhamad are all avatars of the Egyptian Osiris/Horus born and resurrected savior who is central to not only Ancient Egypt but to the birth and development of Human civilization as a whole. The fact that Romans, 2000 years ago committed "the error" of moving the focal point of Human spirituality outside of its Nilotic development and promoted a semitic Nomadic paradigm, is the most fundamental cause of our current spiritual and philosophical demises. Egypt is " cursed" in all the 3 Abrahamanic faiths as a land of desolation while a " mysterious" Jerusalem is elevated at the lieu where all the mysteries shall be revealed. But only one religion " can" the one recognized by God! Thus the conundrum and confusion with the 3 faiths battling each others for a legitimacy. Only bloodshed can result from this! Until Ancient Egypt, and to another extent Mesopotamia and Persia are restored into their fundamental role as drivers of Human spirituality and thus CIVILIZATION, the battles and warfares between the different factions of Abrahamanic romanticism will not cease. Islam cannot be false and Christianity true. Islam is a Judeo/Christian Schism with a militaristic bent. All 3 Abrahamanic Religions are pure Romanticism, delirious Millenarianism that have always lead to destruction, wars, and all types of extremisms.

[@JB-jkhb1972]

... so where is the source of "mohammad jesus"?

[@mysotiras21]

Watch all of the videos in this series.

[@Thomas-pq5uw]

New ​testament False gospel of Barnabas and childhood gospel of Thomas tora Babylonian. Talmud lus sonme Arabian stories.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@ahmaduahmed8760]

The bible is a collection of write up by unknown thousands of authors. There were gospels only four were taken, still there is dispute which books to be taken (Catholics and protestants). Written centuries after, not eye witnesses, almost every decade a new version by councils, each denomination has it's own version, contains porn stories not good for less than18, language and style not eloquent (human). Uncountable extrapolation, additions, insertions, purging etc. We are waiting for new version soon, will be updated its modern age. The Qur'an is compiled by eye witnesses, astonishing scientific miracles, stood the test of time 1,400 yrs, one single copy globally to date, no one, no council, has ever review it, it's word of God revealed verbatim, speaks in the name of God, no one can review it cause it's not human.

[@santhiramorgan8329]

IT WOULD BE MORE REALISTIC IF BOTH OF YOU SAT AT 45 DEGREE ANGLES.

[@aaronmusa234]

ramadan upon us next in 10 days. ..fasting a small part of the month. the recitation of quran worldwide in congregation from start to finish over 30 days is the larger benefit. no other scripture was archived by god in this manner pastor Bosworth smith after 11 yrs of research concluded ' the quran is the only scripture preserved in its original language ' bible only in hands of church clergy from 325afd to 16th century inserted trinity. man/god. free salvation sun. day worship under the cover of 1300 yrs of darkness when not busy chasing the 11 yr old altar boys around the rectory. oy vey. muslim since 2002

[@garybowings1538]

"Ramadan is a feast not a fast. Afterward, I go for Weight Watcher. 😂" - Bob Muh

[@mysotiras21]

Ho hum. You tout your stupid PAGAN practices here, and expect us to be impressed??? Listen carefully, and you will hear the INTELLIGENT portion of humanity LAUGHING at Islam's childish pretensions.

[@aaronmusa234]

@@garybowings1538 trinity christians fast from chocalate lol some fast from the 11 yr old altar boys during lent

[@garybowings1538]

@aaronmusa234 Your prophet's "wife" still played with Barbie dolls but that didn't stop him from putting on her nightgown and kicking her puppy out of the house so that jibril wouldn't be afraid to enter. Okie dokie.

[@loulou2ist]

I was suspecting that maybe mohammed is the name of jesus becaus eonly god can have title like praised one! But what about mohammeds actions and marrying aisha and beating women?

[@AlonzoHarris235]

Can anyone have the title Father except your god?

[@annemurphy9339]

These are snippets & anecdotes from the lives of the whatever men islam’s creators used to sculpt into their mortal muhammad.

[@garybowings1538]

​@@AlonzoHarris235"All the Messengers were Messiahs! Ask me how I know!" - Alonzo Harris

[@mysotiras21]

The stories about Islamic Muhammad are almost surely pure fiction, created long after the knowledge that the original Muhammad was Jesus had been lost.

[@faithfulsoldier519]

He never beat any woman, they have fooled you and you believed it! "'A'isha reported that Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) never beat anyone with his hand, neither a woman nor a servant . . " Sahih Muslim, Book 43, Hadith 108

[@dravindion]

Guesd who is the world's greatest travel agent?

[@almazchati4178]

Yes, it was a title for Jesus, and you missed it for thousands of year. So repent and make your shahada.

[@aaronharun1394H]

Say (Muhammad), "I am only a man like you, to whom has been revealed that your ilah (deity/god) is one ilah. So whoever would hope for the meeting with his rabb (Lord) - let him do righteous work and not associate in the worship of his rabb (with) anyone." (Al-Quran 18: 110) Muhammad is not but a messenger. [Other] messengers have passed on before him. (Al-Quran 3: 144) The Messiah, son of Mary, was not but a messenger; [other] messengers have passed on before him. And his mother was a supporter of truth. (Al-Quran 5: 75) Their messengers said to them, "We are only men like you, but Allah confers favor upon whom He wills of His servants. It has never been for us to bring you evidence except by permission of Allah . And upon Allah let the believers rely. (Al-Quran 14: 11)

[@garybowings1538]

"Dear Broder: Please allow me to clarify: Surah 3:144: "Muhammad is no more Than an Apostle: many Were the Apostles that passed away Before him..." The term "many were the Apostles," is the Arabic al-russul and is more precisely translated as "THE Apostles." The phrase is inclusive and affirms that all the Apostles before Muhammad (including Isa) have passed away. Hope this helps." - Aaron Harun

[@schmuckpuppet4842]

You're defending a book that is being debunked by quoting from said book. I don't think you understand how logical reasoning works.

[@mysotiras21]

YAWN. Cat vomit from the book of fabricated, error-filled cat vomit. What do you hope to achieve by quoting form your stupid fake scripture?

[@r1ght3ousness-of-the-faith]

@@schmuckpuppet4842 more like samshamounpuppet4842

[@idris_haris_al-kalima]

'Say , "Indeed, I am a man like you, to whom has been revealed that your God is [the] Only God. So whoever would hope for the meeting with his Lord - let him do righteous work and not associate [other lords] in the worship of his One Lord."' - Surah 18:110 'The Praised-One is not only a messenger; the messengers have passed on before him. So what if he had died or was slain, will ye turn back on your heels? He who turneth back on his heels doth not hurt the God, and the God will reward the thankful.' - Surah 3:144 'The Messiah the son of Mary was not only a messenger; the messengers have passed on before him, and his mother was truthful. Both [ie. the messengers and Mary] ate the food [ie. the body of the lamb of the God]. See how We make the revelations clear for them, and see how they are turned away!' - Surah 5:75 'Their messengers said unto them: "We are not but mortals like you, but the God giveth grace unto whom He will among His slaves. It is not ours to bring you a warrant unless by the permission of the God. In the God let believers put their trust!"' - Surah 14:11

[@davidbestermann4738]

islam is dead

[@faithfulsoldier519]

How is it dead when its world's second largest religions, and tons of nations from the east and west are shaped by its teachings? You can say that to yourself, but your statement will remain baseless.

[@davidbestermann4738]

dont cry lil girl without lies islam dies @@faithfulsoldier519

[@fado792]

Mohammad had sisters who were gods

[@davie8906]

😂

[@defenderoftruth3212]

Who is the sister of Prophet jESUs (pbuh)? Salome? A god-sister? Who are his brothers? James, John, Jude, Jose? god-brothers? -03-12-24

[@fado792]

@@defenderoftruth3212 According to Muhammad Allah had to God sisters. And you sit on seven merged tail bones, from the time apes separated from monkees 25 mln years ago. Halelujah. Jesus had a tailbone too. From Darwin.

[@AlonzoHarris235]

Jay Smith believes in three gods.

[@garybowings1538]

Harris wears panty hoping to receive revelations. 😂

[@igorsigetlija5810]

even if we belive in 3 neither one of them have nothing to do with quran or quran god

[@AlonzoHarris235]

@@igorsigetlija5810 Three gods is a logical contradiction.🫠 You are right. We have nothing to do with logical contradictions.🤣

[@AlonzoHarris235]

@everyisnaadisfabricated3784 What’s the logical problem exactly to create a bird?🥴

[@garybowings1538]

​@@AlonzoHarris235"Muhammed flew on a donkey to al Quds? That doesn't make any sense. Donkeys can't fly." - Alonzo Harris

[@TheHappinessOfThePursuit]

They were many Christs. Christ was a term those who overcame thought. Well, I don’t know the truth of who existed and how they existed, I know the truth of the metaphor of the story in the Bible, I know the truth of clear of thinking of the I Ching and Buddhist texts. The text can only points you to the path and work of self cultivation. Those who grab onto the text literally, and use it to beat others down based upon their beliefs are doing the work of evil…

[@mysotiras21]

Many people were anointed for certain purposes (the original meaning of "Christ"), but there is only ONE Christ Jesus, God Incarnate.