'Muhammad' was JESUS in Syro-Aramaic texts! (#17)

It looks like we have further Proof that 'The Praised One' in both the Qur'an & the Dome of the Rock was really referring to Jesus, and not a prophet named Muhammad!
Once we return to the Syriac Aramaic writings from which those who put the Qur'an together borrowed so much of their material, we find that the reference to 'Muhammad' in those writings had nothing to do with a Muslim prophet named 'Muhammad' at all, but almost uniquely referred to the Christian Byzantine Jesus!
It is because of the very learned and linguistically adept scholarship of men like Christoph Luxemburg and Karl-Heinz Ohlig, that we have been recently introduced to the source for this term (see their books: 'The Syro-Aramaic Reading of the Koran' by Christoph Luxemburg, and 'The Hidden Origins of Islam' edited by Karl-Heinz Ohlig and Gerd R. Puin).
This then helps us make sense of why so many of the inscriptions on the Dome of the Rock are centered on, and confronts the person of Jesus, his divinity, and the trinity.
Thus, the term 'Muhammad' was meant to refer not to a man, but to 'The Praised One', who is the 'Servant of God', who of course was Jesus.
Since so much of the Qur'an was borrowed from these earlier Christian Syro-Aramaic readings, it stands to reason that we return to them to then understand, not only the inscriptions, but the Qur'an itself.
Once we do, so many of the difficult passages in its pages then become understandable.
Once again, when we find curious and anachronistic references in the Qur'an and in the Standard Islamic Narrative which make no sense, or are historically not viable, because they were written during the 8th century and later, the best thing to do is simply return to the century the events they talk about took place, the 7th century, and follow where the evidence leads in that century.
For those who would like to download a PDF copy of Christoph Luxenburg's "Syro-Aramaic Reading of the Koran" you can do so here: ia800409.us.archive.org/1/ite...
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[@thinkingperson2122]

The internet wind is blowing Islam apart. Soon it will just be a bad memory. That will be a blessing for the Muslims and for the whole world. Praise be to the Lord Jesus.

[@dundadunda552]

@Forgiving Fragrance okay u can stay a muslim

[@dundadunda552]

@Forgiving Fragrance its for free..u can have it

[@historyrogue5056]

Keep dreaming , you've bommed us with thousands of tons of boms and did tried ur best to make us change our faiths but Never!, and in shaa Allah we will remain muslims Until we die .

[@historyrogue5056]

@Forgiving Fragrance exactly brother , may Allah bless u and guide these lost people

[@dundadunda552]

@@historyrogue5056 good luck

[@lukasmakarios4998]

Now that it is becoming clear that the Qur'an was partly based on a confused understanding of Gnostic, monophysite and Docetist ideas, we need to go to the other side of the Islamic territory. The coins of Abd el-Malik clearly show some relationship with Persian Zoroastrians. If they borrowed from Christians, would it not be equally likely that they would also borrow from Zarathustra? In each case, they would reinterpret the teachings to insist on a strict monotheism, with a single solitary Unitary Godhead, who is unapproachable by humanity, who must send his words to a prophet via angelic emissary. But Zarathustra believed in an eternal battle between two equals, the good Ahura Mazda and the evil Ahriman. Having claimed the peaceful good sayings from Isa, perhaps they unified him with his complementary opposite, to include those sayings of Muhammad that supposedly encouraged violence and conquest. The inclusion of such opposing ideas implies a criticism of a "too spiritual" Christ, that such ideas could never conquer the world, and would also explain why Muhammad so plainly sounds like a madman who is making this up to suit himself. Indeed, if you refuse to recognize Satan, you can easily become corrupted by his pride and deception. And this is the Qur'an's problem. It is a false bible, based on a contrived "revelation."

[@janetoliver9561]

Don't forget the widely spread Arian Christianity and it's belief of Jesus as man only.

[@lukasmakarios4998]

@free palestine - Nice. That expresses exactly how Muhammad felt about the way the Jews were constructing the Oral Torah. And it's also the way Jesus felt about it, and why Christians and Pharisees didn't get along. It's funny that Muhammad would then adopt the hijab and bourka from them anyway. That's also in the Talmud, for the same reason.

[@theabstracthour178]

The Quran mentions Jesus AND Muhammad, they’re two different people.

[@theabstracthour178]

If he knew anything at all then he’d realize over a million Muslims know the entire Quran by heart. And that Jesus is mentioned by name in the Quran.

[@KabirKhan7_BrazenImpudence]

Look into Salman Farsi a sahabi of Muhammed, and a Zoastrian Magi before he converted years later. Strange.

[@thephilosopherfromdixie7466]

You're doing amazing work, Dr. Smith. Keep it up!

[@theabstracthour178]

If he knew anything at all then he’d realize over a million Muslims know the entire Quran by heart. And that Jesus is mentioned by name in the Quran.

[@danmannz]

Love the scholarly work you are doing Jay! one day I'll ask my question on eschatology!

[@theabstracthour178]

If he knew anything at all then he’d realize over a million Muslims know the entire Quran by heart. And that Jesus is mentioned by name in the Quran.

[@williamgarayua5878]

Dear@@theabstracthour178 : JESUS taught that he NO want to be mentioned, but OBEYED! Otherwise one cannot be His True Disciple; -"LOVE ONE ANOTHER, Love Thy Enemy" 💞🌍🕊 🆚️ ⚔️📗⚔️

[@sgt.grinch3299]

This explains the abduls understanding of Jesus Christ. So the pagans can’t even worship Jesus as instructed in the New Testament. This is another large stone removed from the foundation of islam.

[@asifbrettishmaelmakki9]

Hello Sgt Grinch.A Sgt like you & you know Jesus The Christ? 😳

[@asifbrettishmaelmakki9]

A day is needed to celebrate.why be so obsessed with dates.do you know the date of your fore-parents who where born 2000yrs ago? Qur'an Surah ,Wal Asar (the small Surah). Verily man/time is at a loss. (it means history is at a loss,so do not attach gospel truth too a date,it could be incorrect). And nowt wrong with Santa.kids love him,and the 70s where great "on the first day of Christmas my true love said too me ....five gold rings,four calling birds,three french eggs,two 🐢 !,and a partridge in a pear tree" 👏 Christmas is coming back 🤞.

[@demsyciu]

@Arief Sheik nah! Jesus said : " At that day YE SHALL ASK IN MY NAME: and I say not unto you, that I will pray the Father for you:" Jesus is eternal. "Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am." "And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, THE SON OF THE LIVING GOD. And JESUS ANSWERED AND SAID unto him, BLESSED ART THOU, SIMON BAR-JONA: for flesh and blood hath not REVEALED IT UNTO THEE, but my Father which is in heaven." Jesus said : " I And My Father Are One. Then the Jews TOOK UP STONES AGAIN TO STONE HIM. Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me? The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and BECAUSE THAT THOU, BEING A MAN, MAKEST THYSELF GOD." Jesus said :" I AM Alpha and Omega, THE BEGINNING AND THE END, the first and the last. Blessed are they that do his commandments, that THEY MAY HAVE RIGHT TO THE TREE OF LIFE, and may enter in through the gates into the city." "I Jesus Have Sent Mine Angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star."

[@J1WE]

@Arief Sheik the same can be said of Muhammad.

[@demsyciu]

@Arief Sheik anthony who? 🤣🤣🤣. Who told the writer? The witneses! Luke 1:2-4 (KJV) "EVEN AS THEY DELIVERED THEM UNTO US, WHICH FROM THE BEGINNING WERE EYEWITNESSES, and ministers of the word; It seemed good to me also, having had perfect understanding of all things from the very first, to write unto thee in order, most excellent Theophilus, That thou mightest know the certainty of those things, wherein thou hast been instructed." And also including Jesus' disciple : "The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and SIGNIFIED IT BY HIS ANGEL UNTO HIS SERVANT JOHN: WHO BARE RECORD OF THE WORD OF GOD, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw."

[@thalamay]

Thanks for highlighting my comment, I am flattered. One clarification I’d like to make: while the Christology in the Koran evolved in the context of a strong Monophysite movement in the East and may still contain remnants of that history, the inscription at the Dome of the Rock clearly isn’t phrased in Monophysite terms but indicates more of an Adoptionist Christology. Similar in some ways to Arianism which was still going strong in the 7th century (albeit veining), but even more ”extreme“. Early on in Christian history, there were countless of christologies, today we‘re only familiar with the Trinitarian view which is shared by pretty much all Christian churches. But in antiquity there was a vast array of Christologies and the further away you get from the Roman / Byzantine Empire, the longer these Christologies persisted. The Adoptionist view was one such Christology which was built on the belief that Jesus had only one nature (like the Monophysites believed) but that this nature was Human, not divine. Like Arians, these Christians therefore believed that Jesus was not god but subordinate to god. That’s what we find at the Dome of the Rock and in parts of the Koran when read as an Aramaic text.

[@thalamay]

@mysotiras9 thank you

[@thalamay]

@@Perceptionista I know that Christoph Luxenberg argues that the Aramaic text that is at the Center of the Koran started out as a Monophysite lectionary. I’m definitely not going to argue with him about that, he’s the expert. However, I don’t see the contradiction between that origin and an Adoptionist View under the Umayyads. These things can change. For example, most biblical scholars nowadays agree that the gospel of John originally came from a gnostic, or at least gnostically inclined sect of Christians. That hasn’t stopped early orthodox Christians to repurpose the text fairly quickly. You are right in that the inscription at the Dome of the Rock could also be interpreted as Monophysite creed. I never entertained the idea because other sources seem to be clearly Adoptionist in nature, like the verse in the Koran where (according to the Syro-Aramaic reading) Jesus proclaimed that he himself worships god and that he didn’t add another god. I don’t think he meant that he was worshipping himself. Also, the fact that they call Jesus “son of Mary” on the dome’s inscription seems at least an indicator. If he was wholly divine, that doesn’t seem to be a point worth mentioning so prominently, it rather takes away from the claim. Also calling him “God’s messenger” when he’s literally god seems unlikely. Therefore I still maintain that the predecessors of the Muslims were Adoptionist Christians. There’s for example also evidence from Umayyad Spain. And I’m pretty sure that this is also the view of the people of Inarah. I know that Karl-Heinz Ohlig argues that the group that created the “Koranic movement” were pre-Nicaean Christians, Aramaic speaking Arabs from Eastern Persia who were loosely associated with the Nestorian church but deeply rejected and fought against them formally adopting the trinitarian doctrine. The Nestorians never were adoptionists, but until the 5th century, they also didn’t have a proper hierarchy, at least not in Eastern Persia. When they tried to establish one and bring all the Christians under their roof, the pre-Nicaeans split off in opposition. Ohlig further argues that this Koranic movement must have been influenced by Gnosticism and/or Manichaeism, though not theologically but in terms of imagery and of course there were major Persian influences as well. These were people in the Persian Exile, they compared themselves to the Jews in Egypt and the Sassanid great Kings were their Pharaohs. They yearned for the Hijra, their version of the Exodus. I can’t go into all the evidence here, that would be too extensive, but it means that the origin of Islam does lay in the still intact Sassanid empire, before Muhammad supposedly wrote down the Koran. And it does suggest an Adoptionist view. I will try to read up on this though, maybe I’m still missing something?

[@thalamay]

@@Perceptionista I think you’re spot-on with the Meccan/Medinan split reflecting different strata of source material. However, that doesn’t reflect the Umayyad/Abbasid periods, but came much earlier. We have scripts containing Medinan surahs from long before the Abbasid revolution. I think we can be fairly certain that by the time of Abd al-Malik the Koran as we know it existed (well, more or less). And as I said, we have good evidence of Adoptionism from Umayyad Spain, I’ve written a comment about it here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/anXbmaekZcuCjbc&lc=UgwU8Svc_DXuohFJf0Z4AaABAg.9OvUDcAYNq-9OwXClz0_S5 I will try to read up on it some more, but for the time being, I will maintain that the most likely Christology of the Umayyads was Adoptionism.

[@thalamay]

@@Perceptionista One more comment on later interpolations: I think that could very well have happened. The prime candidate is Surah 33:40 which is one of the four places in the Koran that mentions Muhammad. The other three seem to talk about the blessed one (i.e. Jesus), but this one seems out of place and clearly talking about a real person. I see three possibilities: 1) The Koran is really talking about a real person, which would mean that this is the place where we can see the birth of a new religion in real time. However, that seems unlikely as it would introduce Muhammad in one tiny segment of this book and immediately put him on top of everyone else without ever mentioning him again. Not to mention that it wouldn’t jive with all the evidence outside the Koran. 2) It’s a later interpolation 3) it could be that verses 40, 41, 42 and 43 were individual segments that randomly found their way in Surah 33 and that verse 40 originally meant Jesus, but in its new context it seems to talk about someone else. Alas, more research is needed here. We’re really at the very beginning when it comes to applying the historical critical method to the Koran and Islam at large.

[@cherebyahwatson5727]

@@thalamay All Glory to Yah ! you weel educated Thalamay ... oculd you give me a link to reach you outside out there, then we can talk of all of that, please ? or you can find me easily on f.a.c.e.book ! I am Nazarene, Biblical Monotheist, Adoptionnist... and more. "Nature"... we have to make the difference between the spiritual and the physical aspect of that ! Yeshua was and still is a Man as Adam, was "Partaker" in his Life as never did... He became A Celestial Man, A Mighty Spirit giving Life ! 2 Peter 1 1-4 : "Simon Peter, a Servant and an Apostle of Yeshua Ha'Mashiah, to them that have obtained like Precious Faith with us through the Righteousness of The Lord God and our Saviour Yeshua Ha'Mashiah : Grace and Peace be multiplied unto you through "The Knowledge of The Lord God", and "The Knowledge of Yeshua our Lord", according as His Divine power hath given unto us all things that "pertain unto Life and Godliness", through The Knowledge of Him" that hath called us to Glory and Virtue : Whereby are given unto us exceeding Great and Precious Promises : that by these ye might be "PARTAKERS OF THE DIVINE NATURE", having escaped The Corruption that is in The World through Lust." Amyn ! Cherebyah !

[@GizmoFromPizmo]

One of the fascinating things to me is that Aramaic was spoken (probably) by Jesus and the Twelve back in the first century. Arabic wasn't formalized as a language until 500 or 600 years later. What makes me smile is that the pseudo-scholars of that religion claim that the Quran existed in Arabic, in heaven, ever since Adam and Eve. It is SUCH a wonky religion, it's a wonder anybody believes it. But as a powerful German once said, "The bigger the lie, the more people believe and follow it." Oh how man has fallen!

[@Meine.Postma]

The name you're looking for is Joseph Goebbels

[@aashiqnazeem9410]

Hw stupid. Listen to him again

[@mihailgae-draghici4864]

@Αρτεμης Μπεθανης pagan Hellenic Greek? no

[@sidprice6214]

What should really fascinate you is why there isn't one Aramaic manuscript of the Bible from the time of Jesus instead of this rubbish you put out about Arabic and the Quran. Were you there for the formalisation ceremony of Arabic?

[@Ace-bz2ie]

@@sidprice6214 no amount of insults are going help you change lies into becoming a truth my friend. Many by pompously as well as boastfuly claiming Islam to be the fastest growing religion are authenticating or agreeing with the Bible. Why? Because the Bible says during the last days many will forsake or hate the truth and run after falsehood.

[@sifu9683]

Amen! Good job Dr. J!

[@luisd918]

Jesus reigns even in the Quran. Praise God. The truth always comes out

[@eugenebastian8351]

Luis d . Yes, Jesus the " prophet" , not , Jesus the Lord and God.

[@eugenebastian8351]

@Jor Tra I have no problem. But the Jesus of the Quran is described as a prophet . That is the problem. My Jesus is my Lord and God. I was replying to luis d , who mistakenly believes that Jesus reigns in Quran. It is Allah , old moon god Baal , who reigns in Quran.

[@thewordistheonlytruth8784]

@@eugenebastian8351 The quran describes two natures The WORD AND SPIRIT DEVINE NATURE AND THE ADAM PROPHET.

[@eugenebastian8351]

@@thewordistheonlytruth8784 Yes,. Quran describes Jesus as the Word of Allah and Spirit of Allah. But Quran also categorically denies the Divinity, Crucifixion and Resurrection of Jesus. We cannot consider Quran as the true Word of True God.

[@thewordistheonlytruth8784]

@@eugenebastian8351 ofcours not the quran is not the word of god. But we can proof JESUS IS GOD IN THERE IF WE WANT MUSLIM TO SEE IT.

[@RoninofRamen]

At time of posting this comment Pfander Films had posted this video just over an hour ago. The video is 16 minutes long and yet within 5 minutes of posting there are a sample of anti-biblical posts in the comments. This would imply forensically that Pfander has a number of subscribers who are bots or have the time to drop everything and copy paste prepared rhetoric. This would infer some fear and desperation on their part.

[@horseradishpower9947]

Of course it is. They have to pounce on this channel, they have no choice. They have to use every tactic to stop reality from tearing apart Islam. They have to get in fast, to stop those who stumble onto the video from taking it seriously. They will, ultimately fail. This information is coming out, no matter what they try.

[@nemesis1291]

Spot on

[@samsulazlanosman2287]

we muslims does not fear if our believe and faith destroyed, because its our god will make it prevail or perish, its you and your kind whose worrying of conversion of your beleiver of chritianity to ISLAM,

[@davidsmart8594]

@@samsulazlanosman2287 Given that the 'conversion' to Islam is arrived at through violence, the concern is not unfounded...

[@samsulazlanosman2287]

@@davidsmart8594 if you said so, these days conversion are at their own will,

[@nathanielhamilton5841]

Had to check this out, this is big. God bless

[@arwandajunior1122]

Alleluia ilove this Dr Jay am alway online waiting for new episodes may God bless you and your family

[@justinfalzon6854]

I just stumbled on your channel. Well done, Sir(s). Very articulate and knowledgeable content. I salute you.

[@theabstracthour178]

If he knew anything at all then he’d realize over a million Muslims know the entire Quran by heart. And that Jesus is mentioned by name in the Quran.

[@wylderose3878]

@@theabstracthour178Not Jesus, Isa was.

[@iam_ghassan]

@@wylderose3878 jesus is isa

[@wylderose3878]

@@iam_ghassan How so exactly? How can he be? Jesus is God made man, one in substance with the Father? Isa is a greek word. Was he Greek? The scribes of the koran did not know who he is either. Jibreel blew into the vagina of his mother in the koran so in some way, this Jibreel must be his father. No similarity at all unless contrived.

[@iam_ghassan]

@@wylderose3878 isa for us isnt a greek word its his arabic name. thats all

[@soulbalance4108]

this is very informative thanks Dr.Jay for your tireless effort

[@soulbalance4108]

@RaymondSaint read it if not I will squeeze you like Jibriel?

[@soulbalance4108]

@RaymondSaint what is wrong my friend? I think you don't read my name correctly? am Christian

[@soulbalance4108]

@RaymondSaint oh I think you became confused am saying am Christian what else? ?? I believe in God father Son and Holy Spirit

[@soulbalance4108]

@RaymondSaint how could you clarify it?

[@simonhengle8316]

Very interesting, many thanks for this video

[@theHentySkeptic]

Add new meaning to one of Jay's favorite phrases - come home to Jesus. This is the key to reforming Islam - helping the many good Muslims find Jesus at the true center of their faith.

[@Frst2nxt]

They have no faith to hold to. They are spiritually the seed of the serpent.

[@rizasheik4603]

Don't pray to Man. Pray to God

[@marksimons4108]

@@rizasheik4603 Jesus is the WORD of GOD👑🙌🔥

[@rizasheik4603]

@@marksimons4108 why the Bible don't speak of Jesus's youth.

[@onepiecetiktok2057]

@@marksimons4108 jesus praying to the god not to him self

[@carlose5751]

This is so CRAZY.

[@commentfreely5443]

i was thinking, if you could send modern serious muslims back to about 680 AD they would find that no one in saudi etc had ever heard of Mohammad. 'Bout the only way to open their eyes.

[@samsulazlanosman2287]

@@commentfreely5443 how would you know, christian beleive in jesus even though there are no church of jesus to start with,

[@andanandan6061]

Lmao. Muhammad was Pope's agen. Muhammad was Arabic Jesus. What a joke. I'm waiting for next from Jay Smith. 😂

[@sidprice6214]

@@commentfreely5443 When you do send them back to 680AD send them to the Prophet's mosque.

[@TonyFelix-wc9qz]

Bless you brother for digging and may the almighty lord bless you for teaching these muslims and their beliefs

[@theabstracthour178]

We Muslims see Jesus and Muhammad as two separate prophets who we love with all our heart. We believe God loved Jesus so much that he rose him to heaven BEFORE they could crucify him.

[@sidprice6214]

The man makes a buck from lying for a living.

[@svennielsen633]

Now, THIS is what I call a man who takes an OPEN DEBATE on his own misunderstanding and admits that others have a better point! Respect for Jay.

[@RoarT19]

I am just wondering If there will be experts like Jay in Future , My Lords Warriors , Peace of Yeshua be with you❤❤

[@RoarT19]

@@AffableCounselorNumber1 Pardon me , We are not talking about Muhammad The one who said 7 ajwa Dates a Day Keeps the Poison and blackmagic away for 24 hrs .. We are talking about the one Who speaks Truth like Jay

[@thepoorsultan5112]

Expert in lies

[@RoarT19]

@@thepoorsultan5112 No kid. Muhammad is the liar

[@roshlew6994]

There are many like Dr. Jay coming up and going much further than Jay... But Jay is the pioneer and inspiration..

[@NazzYr101]

@@RoarT19 No jdr Jay is the liar. First he said Muhammad pbuh didn't exist. Now he did exist and he's actually Jesus 🤣🤣🤣 this guy is totally out of control if you ask me. I guess his next finding is going to be that Muhammad was god too all along. And he will probably be the antichrist also. I won't put that past Jay. He never disappoints. Lmfao. This is too much fun in one week

[@jester56]

Wow !! Im loving the New Information about Islam and all of it's errors !! Keep up the GOOD research that God obviously wants you to do !!😊

[@Basaljet]

It’s not new information he is popularising material that has been out there for about 30 years. And he is making a very good job if it except that he is garbling apostolic Christianity because he has not a sufficient grasp of the formation of Christian doctrine in the patristic period as at4.47

[@bamssudardjo2572]

SURA AL IMRAN verse 54.. I am the best deceiver. Wallahu khairul makiriin..

[@JacobAdewumi]

@@Basaljet According to Christoph Luxenberg's Syro-Aramaic reading of the Koran, "For more than a millennium Aramaic was the lingua franca in the entire Middle Eastern region before being gradually displaced by Arabic beginning in the 7th century." (Page 10) • This suggests that Aramaic was the most important written and cu1tural language in the region. Records also indicate that Aramaic was the language of Christianized Arabs, and that a large proportion of them took part in the Christian Syrian liturgy. • Since Arabic was not a written language by this time, its stands to reason that what we call Koran today is a collection of liturgies and teachings of Christianize Arabs, which was later compiled and redacted to fit the political and religious agenda of early Arab rulers in the 8th -10th century. • There is no denying the fact what we call Koran today was borrowed from existing Syro-Aramaic sources, indicating that the Koran in its original form was something quite different from what Muslims have always taken it to be. • Even the word Qur'an(al-furqan) come from the Syriac, in which language it refers to a liturgical reading from (Jewish and Christian) scripture, a lectionary. • Arthur Jeffery wrote in 1938 that “not only the greater part of the religious vocabulary, but also most of the cultural vocabulary of the Quran is of non-Arabic origin." On close examination, the Qur'an itself betrays evidence of having been adapted from a Christian text. • Muhammad as an historical figure, did not exist. From historical records, it is clear that there was no Arab prophet named Muhammad anywhere near Mecca. • The records indicate that if there was a Muhammad, he was not in Mecca and didn't preach anything that closely resembles Islam-until long after his death, when his biography and holy book as we know them began to be constructed by the Umayyads and the Abbasids. • In essence, Islam is nothing but a forged religion ,and Muslims can no longer support their (vile) claims with any historical evidences from the 6th century. • Given all these evidence, I invite You to render your life to Jesus, and accept Him as your personal Lord and Saviour. JESUS IS LORD!!!

[@JacobAdewumi]

@Forgiving Fragrance According to Christoph Luxenberg's Syro-Aramaic reading of the Koran, "For more than a millennium Aramaic was the lingua franca in the entire Middle Eastern region before being gradually displaced by Arabic beginning in the 7th century." (Page 10) • This suggests that Aramaic was the most important written and cu1tural language in the region. Records also indicate that Aramaic was the language of Christianized Arabs, and that a large proportion of them took part in the Christian Syrian liturgy. • Since Arabic was not a written language by this time, its stands to reason that what we call Koran today is a collection of liturgies and teachings of Christianize Arabs, which was later compiled and redacted to fit the political and religious agenda of early Arab rulers in the 8th -10th century. • There is no denying the fact what we call Koran today was borrowed from existing Syro-Aramaic sources, indicating that the Koran in its original form was something quite different from what Muslims have always taken it to be. • Even the word Qur'an(al-furqan) come from the Syriac, in which language it refers to a liturgical reading from (Jewish and Christian) scripture, a lectionary. • Arthur Jeffery wrote in 1938 that “not only the greater part of the religious vocabulary, but also most of the cultural vocabulary of the Quran is of non-Arabic origin." On close examination, the Qur'an itself betrays evidence of having been adapted from a Christian text. • Muhammad as an historical figure, did not exist. From historical records, it is clear that there was no Arab prophet named Muhammad anywhere near Mecca. • The records indicate that if there was a Muhammad, he was not in Mecca and didn't preach anything that closely resembles Islam-until long after his death, when his biography and holy book as we know them began to be constructed by the Umayyads and the Abbasids. • In essence, Islam is nothing but a forged religion ,and Muslims can no longer support their (vile) claims with any historical evidences from the 6th century. • Given all these evidence, I invite You to render your life to Jesus, and accept Him as your personal Lord and Saviour. JESUS IS LORD!!!

[@adnanibnnoor_1]

The bad thing is Jesus is not god as God does not die for one second, but Jesus was dead for the whole day according to your fake bible. In Quran he is totally dead never to come back, while Muhammad SAWW has never died as per Quran,

[@putugede9416]

Thank Jesus, we have you Jay.👍👍

[@siulong1394]

Okay if this is correct, where do the stories composing the biography of Muhammad come from? How were the Sirat written?

[@Frst2nxt]

Monophysites were never anti-Trinitarian. They considered the humanity of JESUS as absorbed into HIS DEITY, and worried that speaking if HIS humanity as a separate thing created ideas of JESUS being less than GOD. It was an opposite approach to what was stressed that differed most between them and Nestorians, and not the underlying belief they were both trying to preserve. Moniohysites accused Nestorians of making the MAN JESUS distinct from the GOD JESUS, though their accusation was untrue, so they said that even as MAN, the same PERSON is first of all GOD. Nestorians accused Monophysites of negating the second nature of JESUS, and said not that there was one JESUS WHO is GOD and a lesser WHO is only MAN, but that HIS humanity is not HIS DEITY, to explain how GOD could live as MAN. And maintaining all these convictions in a balance between these two extreme ends of the spectrum of expression, the general Byzantine Catholics reflected the wider Catholic tradition that both these extremes maintained in their own strain of focus, merely seeming to be polar opposites. This contention is addressed in the latter portion of Isaiah 19, which states that the Egyptian monophysites and the Assyrian Nestorians will worship together again, and the monophysites reverse the rebellion against Nestorius, which the Alexandrian bishopric showed at a council headed by Cyril of Alexandria. Cyril was only the successor of St. Mark of the 72, while Nestorius was the Patriarch of Constantinople, and successor to the Apostle Andrew, and the act of the Egyptian bishop to get him deposed and exiled was insubordination. Those that never accepted that man being replaced by another grew into a community in Assyria. In the making of Egypt, Assyria and Israel a blessing on the earth, there needs to be a removal of islam, hinted at in saying GOD will strike the government of Egypt (consisting of not Egyptian muslim arabs) to save the people of Egypt, whose sacrifice as non Levites outside of Jerusalem HE accepts.

[@ivanipatov6559]

Jay said it right. Monophysites believe in only one nature of the Word of God (Christ). I will clarify that not all historical Monophysites mixed nature. But the heresy of one nature does not remove it. Monophysites still confess Christ in one person, one hypostasis and one nature. Nestorians confess Christ in one person, two hypostases and two natures. And only the Orthodox profess an intact faith in one Christ in one person and one hypostasis of God the Word but in two natures.

[@ivanipatov6559]

@mysotiras9 I don't know about what hypothetical diophysites you are talking. But the Orthodox don't believe in two separate natures. The Chalcedonian definition ... of the One and the same Christ, Son, Lord, Only Begotten, cognizable in two natures is non-merged, irrevocable, inseparable, inseparable.

[@ivanipatov6559]

@mysotiras9If the Monophysites in contrast to the Orthodox Church confess one nature in Christ, then the nature of the Triune God and the nature of the flesh of Christ must be one.

[@preapple]

Monophysites - a person who holds that in the person of Jesus Christ there is only one nature (wholly divine or only subordinately human), not two.

[@ivanipatov6559]

@@preapple And if nature is one, the Trinity should have been embodied.

[@mikaeltordelov2963]

Here is more materials for Apostate Prophet to read about Prophet Mohammed real origin in Islam and Jesus.

[@user-pf7cw5wr4y]

Stay away from Islam

[@ahuramazda32]

Islam is a death cult…but so is christianity

[@jasonbourne4632]

But Jesus is ELISHA and Eliseus (Iésous) in Greek In the biblical narrative he is a disciple and protégé of Elijah, and after Elijah was taken up in a chariot of fire, he gave Elisha a double portion of his power and he was accepted as the leader of the sons of the prophets.

[@R1project0]

does anyone know where to find a translation of the Maronite Chronicles? I'm having trouble finding it as you can guess haha.

[@husainmohd6377]

There is website One Message Foundation where you could ask any question. Please check.

[@proverbs2522]

I love your intros.

[@lifethroughromans8295]

Are the books available on Kindle?

[@jondularswoods6461]

2 Corinthians 11:4 “For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.”

[@abdillahijalalkhan2128]

Modern Christianity.In a Nutshell! 😂😂😂😂😂

[@didierfavre2356]

We could end with funny things like the discovery of a Qur'an older than Islam. It could also mean that Abd-al-Malik had to take this book because it was too well known as the religious reference of the religion his folks were following. The Temple that Jews want to rebuild could be the Dome of the Rock when the same line is followed. It should have brought back Christ. He did not come so he was not the last prophet. Funny things are going to be discovered. Truth has powers of its own and they are to be respected, like it or not is not the point.

[@michaeldoyle7885]

🤔 Certainly food for thought even if, as I suspect, it is somewhat "tongue in cheek"... One thing seems to be becoming clearer though and that is that today's Mecca had nothing to do with any of this...as a the great Lord Soper said on a late night chat show on British TV in the late 80s or early 90s I'm not quite sure, Islam was one of two great heresies and was an attempt to reconcile two (unorthodox) versions of Judaism and Christianity... He, Lord Soper was a Christian preacher from the methodist tradition and when he wasn't preaching Christ's message at Tower Hill or Speakers Corner he was evangelising Socialism.. He was a Labour peer in the house of Lords and a true gent.... Oh and the other great heresy... Communism

[@jannmutube]

---- > Aramaic is a root for many languages. Arabic is a derivation from the Nabatean language. It's not a direct connection. The first sura of the Quran, the Bismilla, cnn sound like a reference to the return of the Lord Jesus but it is not the first revelation of the Quran. The first revelation is in Sura 96: 1-5 which includes Muhammad's encounter with Jibril in the cave.. The name of Muhammad can't be replaced with the name of Jesus in the Quran. Semetic Language Tree Leb Tahor www.lebtahor.com/ChartsMaps/semiticlanguagetree.htm

[@michaeldoyle7885]

It's the "first" revaluation of the Standard Arab Narrative....but it's the echos of the "prophet", Mani and his cave experience and the story told to and recorded by the The Chinese Imperial Court chroniclers, contemporary to the time, of the founder of the... Note Tayye... Kingdom of a lion man directing this individual to a cave where he would find weapons.

[@didierfavre2356]

@@michaeldoyle7885 Mani could also be "the chosen one" or "the blessed one".

[@michaeldoyle7885]

I'm suggesting that the whole story of the revelations in a cave to this alleged 7th century prophet by the archangel Gabriel is fabricated but has enough plausible threads woven into it to get by in that region at that time the 8th century...

[@richLminer]

I couldn't help but notice the similarity in meaning between "the blessed one" and "the anointed one" or messiah (which I just looked up was Mashiah in Hebrew and Meshiha in Aramaic) Is it possible the Muhammad was just the Arabic translation of this word? Maybe you could respond if there is any validity to this? Also I am not anything close to a linguist but to me the term "blessed one" makes more sense in context than "Praised one" since as you say a fundamental tenet of this sect of early Christians was that Jesus was not God and that God only should be worshiped (aka praised). This makes me feel "blessed one" is closer to what these people would have though Muhammad meant which as a stated earlier is very close in meaning to "anointed one"

[@theabstracthour178]

The Quran mentions Jesus and Muhammad both by name. They’re two completely different people unless Jesus was given birth to twice, are you suggesting Jesus has already returned 1,400 years ago?

[@Ekim1740]

@@theabstracthour178 nope. Mohammed is a title of Jesus. Some of the verses were added later. But if you replace Jesus to Moahmmed in the Quran it will also make sense.

[@journees4300]

Is St Murrad the same person as Christoph Luxenburg?

[@samiaziz5]

Yes, Muhammad (the Praised One, the Blessed One) is a title for Jesus.

[@historyrogue5056]

Laugh at yourself ,Jesus(peace be upon him) and Our master Muhammad (peace be upon him) are prophets of Allah Almighty .

[@historyrogue5056]

@Cohen&Levi Loves YESHUA HaMASHIACH no that what you dream of, why didn't any pastor or pope say that for the last 1440 years? Because there is no such thing and let's assume that what you say is true , who wrote the Quran? You know If our prophet Muhammad peace be upon him didn't have the Quran there would be no Islam today, so Again you guys laugh at yourselves

[@historyrogue5056]

@Cohen&Levi Loves YESHUA HaMASHIACH everyone in Mecca knew him , even before Islam because of his integrity and honesty and they even preserved their precious things in his house as they knew he wouldn't steal it , even after the revelation of Quran some of them kept doing that , and WOW man just WOW , you Christians first said he is a liar then said he is crazy and .....etc of bad words , now you say he didn't even exist? really?

[@adnanibnnoor_1]

Bad thing is Jesus is not god as God does not die for one second, but Jesus was dead for the whole day according to your fake bible. In Quran, he is totally dead never to come back,

[@samiaziz5]

Jesus is alive and with us.. Muhammad is dead and left you.. If Islamic Allah isn't a spirit what is Allah..

[@MrCyclist]

So now we have two fictions of Jesus and Muhammad. Is the Buddha next?

[@rabukkayeshua2479]

Thank you Jay... You are amazing👍😍 🎖👏

[@orioncoat5258]

How is the sister that worked with you? It has been a while....She will be happy to hear this.

[@suechapel1443]

Jesus be praised! I hope that Muslims will take this to heart and receive the pardon that Jesus purchased on our behalf ❤

[@husainmohd6377]

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[@marksimons4108]

@@husainmohd6377 "My people are destroyed through lack of knowledge" Jesus Christ👑🙌🕊

[@husainmohd6377]

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[@sidprice6214]

I thought Jesus was a carpenter not a trader in buying and selling goods.

[@marleennijland4244]

Dr Smith, I've been watching a lot of the "Search for Mohammad" video's etc. lately, but what keeps on puzzling me is when did the praised or blessed one in the Qur'an and Hadiths become so bloodthirsty and vindictive at every level? And what about all the things Mohammad and Aisha supposedly said in the Hadiths? Where does that come from, when it appears that the title Mohammad actually refers to Jesus? And what about all the violent conquering, even all the way up Spain? When did the Mohammad we know today come into existance and why? In one of the video's you explained that a Mohammad existed who may have been a king and that there may have been another individual who was violent and got a lot of traction. Did it all come from the stories and legends passed on by mouth? Did the caliphs and others make up all those Hadiths?

[@marleennijland4244]

@Forgiving Fragrance Well, I can't believe what you are saying. The hadiths surely paint him as a violent man. "I shall be victorious through terror." That does not sound peaceful to me. There are many, many more examples. I consider dr Jay very knowledgeable, but fact and fiction need to be seperated in a clear manner. Jesus could not have praised this 7th century "prophet"' because Jesus lived 600 years before the big lie (which didn't actually come to life until the 8th century).

[@pfanderfilms]

Marleen, the answer would take volumes and I only have one or two sentences to respond here. Suffice it to say that the Muhammad you know and dislike is almost entirely a creation of the Abbasids, who was put together his biography (Sira) in 833 AD, and his sayings (Hadith) in 870 AD, so 200 - 300 years after the fact. That is why, when we look for him in the 7th century, we simply cannot find him at all. What you call violent and vindictive is not considered as such by the Abbasids who created his story, and I would suggest that our problem is that we are looking at Muhammad through our Christian prism, which paints him pretty poorly, and totally unlike our Lord Jesus Christ.

[@c.aurellaustina6849]

@Forgiving Fragrance @Forgiving Fragrance What a delusion! You 're, to put it in one adjective, delusional.

[@brucemills6558]

@Forgiving Fragrance Dr. Jay Smith has no reason to lie about anything that is a purely academic deep look into the Islamic world and has been peeling away the layers of mystery, which may uncover truths you don't like, but the truths that exist and are found and pieced together are necessary for the process of academic critique. Islam as a whole should encourage such critique as it has nothing to hide, or so it says. The idea that the word Muhammad means 'blessed one' as a title just as the word "Allah" means The God [ unspecified by an individual name to differentiate from many other 'gods'] is a significant development and the notion that ascribes this as a name of a man being possibly an incorrect application is worth exploring. Should it reveal that the use of Muhammad is , in fact, referencing Jesus of Nazareth, the Christ would be quite appropriate as it is Jesus, the Prophet of the Jews who is accorded many special names in the Quran such as: The Spirit of God [ Ruchallah?] and the one from a Virgin Birth and the very Word of God [ Kamalallah ?] [ you know the Arabic words here] which point to a very special person who has the same characteristics of the Creator God of the Torah. Would that be a coincidence seeing that the writings of the early manuscripts may have indeed originated in Syria / Jordan locations using that language and not the later idea of the Qureshi dialect ? This is an academic study and no final conclusions are made as yet. It does seem that traditions of men have had a role in blurring the lines of truth and fiction. Personally I think it would be wonderful to find out that Muslims everywhere are , in fact, worshipping Jesus and have been fooled by political men into believing a very different story all along. Wouldn't you want to know the truth ?

[@alwilliams3628]

@@pfanderfilms Mr. Smith, St. John of Damascus (c.720) lived and worked under Abd. Malik in Damascus and confirms the inanity that he found in much of the early Qur'anic Sura. And, he particularly details the bizarre Sura called "The Camel of God", (which is no longer in the Qur'an), which seems to be an early attempt at a muslim parable. You will notice in it that an enormous 'camel' drinks water from a stream running between 2 mountains. And this location certainly seem to describe PETRA very well. And, then, once this Camel...which is so large that fills the thin space between the two mountains is killed...a baby camel takes it's place. And the baby is taken to a new place..ie 'to God'. This baby camel very probably signifies the 'new' masjid al Haram...down in the Current Mecca. The Mother camel is probably the original 'Masjid' that Dan Gibson details in "The Sacred City". I hope you read what John of Damascus wrote regarding the Camel, as he is one of the first Christian apologists to detail the insanity found strewn through the Qur'an. This parable seems significant to me.

[@walterulasinksi7031]

It still will be enlightening to have the translations of the texts of the libraries of Timbuktu. While these in reference, maybe of a later time, there may be discussions that relate to the subject. It is conceivable that some original texts may have a complained the spread of Islam in it’s westward movement through Northern Africa. And were part of the moorish influence in Iberia, where it is documented that there were centers of knowledge passed through the Moors and scholars into medieval Europe. That a linguistic reference may be made from the surrounding/ Aramaic to spread a story and system of belief, makes sense with the monotheistic versus the polytheistic and the actual moralistic values imparted. It also makes sense in that both the Christian sources and Islamic sources ascribe an attitude antithetical tithe cultural norms of the time regarding women. More especially in that for both Jesus and Mohamed, their closes confidant was the woman that financed all their ministries. For Jesus it was Mary Magdalene who if John: 2:1-10 is interpreted correctly became Jesus’ wife and with Mohamed, he married his widowed employer. In the Case of Jesus, to support his. Ministry, where did the wealth come From? Could it have been a family business along with Mary’s sister Martha and Brother Lazarus? One I which part of which included rather running of the Nabatean( Midian) caravans in the trade of Frankincense and Myrrh? And this family was a descendent of Selene of Syria, a daughter of Cleopatra II? If such lineage can be determined, then Jesus/ Mohamed, would have been able to be within such caravans during at time when there is a a 20 year gap in the Jesus story and would have more emphasis to his reported saying that it is easier for a came to go through the Eye of the needle than a rich person to enter Heaven and with such reference to the passage from Petra to the west, would have been an admonishment to not only the wealthy of Jerusalem, but to the ostentatious rulers of Petra, and which would resonate with the actual Nabatean caravan workers. ( see; NOVA documentary on Petra). For that time and place, using such references to Jesus as Mohamed would still ring true with respect to the Albeit smaller Roman Empire, based in Constantinople that still held economic sway over the entire Middle East and down through Egypt, as with the story of Jesus being of the House of David and his wife having descendent claim on Egypt would have made his death more understandable as a political action by Roman authorities. Therefor Syrian Aramaic texts that would be perpetrated throughout the Arabian world under the use of Mohamed would have escaped notice fro: Constantinople in its very weakened state after the Justinian plague of 547 CE. If as argued that this plague originated in Askum ( Ethiopia) and came into the Roman Empire due to the Ivory trade, then there would have been a path of plague deaths either through Nubia\ Egypt or through the Nabatean caravan routes, as much of 5he Frankincense, came from the Afar in Askum.

[@apollontheintp3257]

Why would John 2 refer to Jesus' marriage? Where does it say that?

[@walterulasinksi7031]

@@apollontheintp3257 if you read John, it section refers to the wedding at Cana. At this wedding, both Jesus and his mother were present. His mother admonishes that they have run out of wine. The orders the servants to do what Jesus tells them. Jesus them instructs the servants to bring him ewers of water. Next we are told that the guests are admonishing the groom about leaving the best wine for last. The questions that must be answered are, why are both of them at this wedding? By what authority does Mary order the servants ? Why admonish the bridegroom?. Who is the bridegroom, who is the bride? Traditional explanations are insufficient in that they are more concerned with the notion of turning water into wine. Have you ever been involved in a Traditional Hebrew wedding? While not being Hebrew, I have. Such weddings are three day affairs with wine being consumed throughout. Have you ever imbibed too much alcohol? After a certain point, any liquid consumed will reactivate the effects of alcohol but to a lighter concentration. John does point out that Mary( Magdalene) and he sister Martha were the big contributors to Jesus’ ministry Jesus had cured Mary Magdalene of he “ demons” and while they believed in actual possession by demonic forces, such demons did not have to be all consuming. Psychologists today in helping a patient with their difficulties could be said to be curing them of their demons. ( the things that torment their minds). Later on, Martha sends word to Jesus that her brother Lazarus has fallen gravely ill. By the time Jesus arrived, Martha admonishes him for being too late and that Lazarus had died three days earlier. Question: Apart from the financial backing, why would Jesus accept Martha’s admonishment? What relation was Martha to Jesus? From what is given in the tales, we can infer, that Mary Magdalene was wealthy and had the difficulties of being pursued for her wealth and had covered it over by her own indulgences. That Jesus helped her through theses difficulties and they were the Bridegroom and bride , so the families would be together at a wedding. ThatMary Magdalene , Martha and Lazarus were brother and sisters, all wealthy.So they could pay all the bills for Jesus and his top followers. Thus making Martha, Jesus’ sister in law and Martha turning to her brother in law as the top male figure at the time. This is a parallel to the the later tale of Mohamed becoming a top organizer for a transport firm owned by a woman that he then winds up marrying. In both cases, the central figure marries wealth and is able to be supported in their endeavors.

[@apollontheintp3257]

@@walterulasinksi7031 Well, you must acknowledge that this is quite hypothetical, right? I mean, I have been at a lot of weddings with my mother where I was not the groom. And Mary speaks with the authority of "the person who has a solution for a problem"; this is universal I would say. Also, at the start of John 2, it says that they were "at a wedding". If this was Jesus wedding, would that not be mentioned more specifically?

[@walterulasinksi7031]

@@apollontheintp3257 In much of the Testaments, the writing is vague bordering on obfuscation. While it does not specifically say it was Jesus’ wedding, it never states who’s wedding it was. Secondly, I can agree that Mary was acting as a problem solver, but the manner in which she talks to Jesus about it is different than just being as a guest. There seems to be an urgency as though it will reflect badly upon her and Jesus. I mentioned a Jewish wedding that my wife and I attended. The groom was a good friend, and the couple had hired a wedding planner. Unfortunately, her planning and problem solving ability were insufficient. Being a traditional Hebrew wedding, it was to be under a Hupa. ( tent top). This was a rented item with folding metal stands and metal flimsy rods to hold up age corners. After discovering this the night before the wedding, ( it was so flimsy that it would have fallen down), our friend knowing that I am a theatrical designer and technical director confided in me the problem. My solution? To have three if his nephews holding a corner each and because we could not find another person, I decided yo jump in to support the forth and keep control over the nephews. Both my wife and I actually kept an eye out over the entire affair, to the extent that we were the witnesses at the signing of their Hebrew Marruage contract, I helped both the bride and groom dress, and the bride, being a large woman, had a fear of climbing stairs. However, by trusting me we were able to climb four steps so she could throw her bouquet. All if this was because We as catholics, understood the Hebrew traditions and respected what needed to be done to make a very successful event. Fortunately, they did not run out of wine or I would gave been stumped. Especially as the Silver Springs, Maryland hotel in which the entire three day affair was held on a 4th of July weekend, had made the hotel very low on their wine provisions apart from the catering company. As a point if reference, the groom was paying for everything including the hotel rooms for the guests. My wife was the one who walked the bride down the aisle to the groom already under the Hupa.

[@apollontheintp3257]

@@walterulasinksi7031 Of course, the Bible is vague on some of the subjects on which our curiosity would wish more detail. But we can always only speculate about these things. I like to believe that - on the other side - the Bible is not too vague about the things that really matter: Love God, love thy next, put God on the throne instead of your own will, keep his commandments. May God give us the mercy and power to do so!

[@eui6037]

Second post Jay, one question: Where is the contradiction between monophysitism and Holy Trinity? Since Christ is God and the human nature doesn't existed anymore, de divine nature didn't became compound. Therefor, monophysits had nothing against Holy Trinity. I don't understand why do you think that a monophysit view meens a religion where Christ doesn't fit in the Trinity, or next to God as an equal? Why do you think monophysits would write those inscriptions? They don't look monophysite...

[@ItsJustAdrean]

And now we have confirmation, the entire movement was based on a gospel of another Jesus, who the apostles never preached, a doctrine of demons, that Jesus had not come to accomplish exactly what God said he would, restoring the relationship of all man to God and forgiveness of sins

[@MU-we8hz]

@Arief Sheik hahaha. Mohamed false, islam false. JESUS ALIVE! Deal with it!

[@razuhl9269]

@@AffableCounselorNumber1 do you know why he was called Jesus Christ or Christ the Jesus or Jesus of Nazareth?

[@c.norbertneumann4986]

The Qur'an was originally a commentary to the gospels in Syro-Aramaic language.

[@MU-we8hz]

@@AffableCounselorNumber1 false-hood. Hahaha. You serve a prophet who was just a man. Just a mortal man. Jesus Lives! I am the way the truth and the life, nodoby comes tot the father expecr through me.

[@MU-we8hz]

@@AffableCounselorNumber1 hahaha, 300 years after Jesua. Your book is 600 years after Jesus.... 🤣🤣🤣

[@rundaniel8221]

It also makes a lot of sense that Christ appears to a lot of Muslims - and there's tension whenever you read the Quran about the true identity of Isa - and a deep desire to get close to the Son of Maryam. On a different note, "Aram" is another name for Syria, anyhow. So that Aramaic is simply "Syrian" in that sense.

[@nemesis1291]

Their Isa is not my Jesus!

[@rundaniel8221]

@@nemesis1291 Of course not.

[@rundaniel8221]

@@BlueOcean696 The word "Aram" for Syria comes from The Book of Genesis - Jacob lived in Paddan-Aram with his uncle Laban. So the OT captures the history of ancient Syria and the place name of the surrounding region where Jacob dwelt accurately.

[@Eissara]

Ajay Daniel the word Aram has nothing to do with those who are syrian orthodox, they only adopted the term in order to deny their Assyrian (Ashur) roots. The name aramean was that of tribes which lived in the lands west of the Euphrates and have nothing to do with the syrian orthodox.

[@Eissara]

@@BlueOcean696 They call themselves Suryoye but the word Aramean has nothing to do with them. Many Suryoye recognize that their roots are Assyrian but their church is syrian orthodox, the name was changed in recent years to syriac orthodox and those who claim that they are aramean do not even know how they became Suryoye and the theories which they present are as empty as those who created them.

[@stevemcgaha864]

I remember a Theology Class from years ago which dealt with why there was such a sudden apostasy in the church in the 5th and 6th centuries especially in Arabia, and North Africa. I remember the professor saying that it was really about Arianism....and that Islam was Arianism re-purposed...especially since Mary is so prominently mentioned (much more than in the NT). Is there any scholarly work on this apostasy, and the proposition that Islam is an amalgamation to assimilate Arians????

[@thalamay]

I‘m not aware of Arianism spreading Eastward. Maybe the Professor used it as shorthand for similar ”heresies“. The Arians did believe that Jesus was divine, but created and therefore subordinate to god. The Christology of the early Koranic movement is rather Adoptionist IMHO, so one step further than Arianism in that Jesus was fully human. Only after his resurrection was Jesus adopted by god according to that view. We know of course about the infighting that was going on, how the Monophysites managed to get the Nestorians deemed heretical only to later be deemed heretical themselves. I think that the main difference in Arabia was that it was outside the domain of the Roman / Byzantine Empire, hence it was mich easier to be ”heretical“ and not suffer any consequences. Within the empire, the emperor made sure that the clergy would follow the agreed upon doctrine. Outside the empire, you often didn’t even have a proper clergy and when you did, it didn’t just replace their leaders with ones that followed orthodox doctrine after a council like it would happen within the empire. Different Christologies could therefore live on, grow and compete.

[@thalamay]

One more point, we’re talking about a time when the Sassanid empire was still alive and well and was starting to be Christianised as well, but the Christians there were mostly heretical from a Roman / Byzantine point of view, they were pre-Nicaean or Nestorian or Monophysites. While the Persians first opposed Christianity, once they saw how much some of the Christians in their Lands were in opposition to the Byzantine Christians, they did start to support some of these heresies, so that was probably another factor.

[@albertpurification9413]

Jay , Come home is you best dialogue.

[@abrahamnewsalem]

Praise be to Jesus Christ

[@prakashmasihmission4251]

Hallelujah 💟 glory to God I got Jesus Christ my Lord Almighty God savior 🙏❣️

[@prakashmasihmission4251]

We know the Mohammed is false prophet as Jesus said in Mathew 7:15 Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but are truly ravenous wolves. 16 By their fruits you will know them. Do people gather grapes from a thornbush or figs from thistles? 17 In the same way, every good tree produces good fruit, but the bad tree produces bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot produce bad fruit, nor can a bad tree produce good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not produce good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 So then, you will recognize them by their fruits. 21

[@buqtair3129]

Titus Flavius started a really long avalanche, that naughty naughty Roman.

[@prakashmasihmission4251]

@Jomy Mathew AMEN Hallelujah Jesus is son of God almighty father God who created Mohammed and all human being,,

[@TohouBohou]

@@prakashmasihmission4251 Its Hallel (u) Yah 🙌🏼

[@sticky59]

@@buqtair3129 People have no idea of what the guy started ...and it rolls on.

[@PraySurvey]

Hey Jay, just a random thinking by me. Muhammad's father was named Abdullah (accordiny to traditional Islam narrative). Both Muhammad and Abdullah is literary more of a title than a name. If Muhammad is Jesus's title, so Abdullah must be Joseph's title right (or even Mary)? What if the title for Jesus was actually Abdullah (servant of God)? That would make Muhammad the title for Jesus's son. I hope you could examine this 'random thinking', were there any cult around Arabia which believed that Jesus has offspring(s)? If so, do they praised the offspring(s) and see him/them as prophet?

[@theabstracthour178]

But the Quran talks about Jesus and Joseph by name and they’re completely different than Mohammad and Abdullah.

[@sonnyjim5268]

Any suggestions for a good source that lists all these passages that make no sense?

[@engineerauwalauwal355]

So funny jay was still thinking christianity is true religion. I think jay was so blaine

[@dirtycash131]

If you don't know specifically who Jesus was, you can't say who Muhammad is either. Not true?

[@eui6037]

First post Hy Jay, small corection, the monophysits think the two natures are mixed, leading to one mixed nature. The problem is that Cyril of Alexandria (he and Pope Leon had a key role at the Council of Calcedon, against the... yes, monophysits), great opponent of monophysits did used the same expresion, but he stated that the natures after the union, do not become something esentialy different than what they were. Human nature remains human, it is not swallowed by the divine nature. The part with the mix/swallowing/confusing, is monophysitism. One mixed nature as a result of incarnation. You can check Jaroslav Pelikan on this, he is not the only, but one of the best. I think he is the best, but it's just me 🙈. Other than this, I realy realy enjoy the videos, very informative. God bless! (Excuse my english 😄)

[@harveyespiritu7936]

Thanks bro. SHALOM

[@muezamueza2797]

Didn't John of Damascus call Muslims "Saracens" and Muhammad a "false prophet"?? The biggest earliest critique of Islam is John of Damascus or St. John of Damascus, also called Saint John Damascene, Latin Johannes Damascenus. He was born c. 675, Damascus and died December 4, 749, near Jerusalem (Eastern and Western feast day December 4). In his book The Fountain of Wisdom, in the second part he wrote Concerning Heresy (Perì eréseon) - the last chapter of this part (Chapter 101) deals with the Heresy of the Ishmaelite. He explicitly wrote Muhammad and Islam, like this There is also the superstition of the Ishmaelites which to this day prevails and keeps people in error, being a forerunner of the Antichrist. They are descended from Ishmael, [who] was born to Abraham of Agar, and for this reason they are called both Agarenes and Ishmaelites. They are also called Saracens, which is derived from Sarras kenoi, or destitute of Sara, because of what Agar said to the angel: ‘Sara hath sent me away destitute.’ [99] These used to be idolaters and worshiped the morning star and Aphrodite, whom in their own language they called Khabár, which means great. [100] And so down to the time of Heraclius they were very great idolaters. From that time to the present a false prophet named Mohammed has appeared in their midst. This man, after having chanced upon the Old and New Testaments and likewise, it seems, having conversed with an Arian monk, [101] devised his own heresy. Then, having insinuated himself into the good graces of the people by a show of seeming piety, he gave out that a certain book had been sent down to him from heaven. He had set down some ridiculous compositions in this book of his and he gave it to them as an object of veneration. Sorthodoxinfo.com/general/stjohn_islam.aspx On the Catholics Ensyclopedia you can find a short paragraph on Jhon of Damascus about Islam and Muhammad. The second part, "Concerning Heresy", is little more than a copy of a similar work by Epiphanius, brought up to date by John Damascene. The author indeed expressly disclaims originality except in the chapters devoted to Islamism, Iconoclasm, and Aposchitae. To the list of eighty heresies that constitute the "Panarion" of Epiphanius, he added twenty heresies that had sprung up since his time. In treating of Islamism he vigorously assails the immoral practices of Mohammed and the corrupt teachings inserted in the Koran to legalize the delinquencies of the prophet www.newadvent.org/cathen/08459b.htm Conclusion In his book The Fountain of Wisdom, St John of Damascus called Muslims “Saracens”, “Ishmaelites” and “Agarenes”, except that the “Saracens” designation might have been used earlier. All those names were pejorative. He specifically called Muhammad by name six times 1) From that time (the reign of Heraclius) to the present a false prophet named Mohammed has appeared in their midst 2) As has been related, this Mohammed wrote many ridiculous books, to each one of which he set a title. 3) Mohammed had a friend named Zeid. 4) This man had a beautiful wife with whom Mohammed fell in love 5) Once, when they were sitting together, Mohammed said: ‘Oh, by the way 6). Mohammed says that the Christ asked God for a table and that it was given Him How could a Christian Saint, who live his earlier adult age in 7th century, a few decades after prophet death, vigorously assails Islam and Muhammad, but Muhammad didn’t exist.... ha ha ha. Jays put a big lie that Muhammad is Jesus and St. Jhon of Damascus attack this Muhammad who are Jesus himself A Christian Saint attack Jesus ... how stupid

[@karmacounselor]

Thé praised one!! I love it!

[@historyrogue5056]

Yea he is our prophet Muhammad peace be upon , may Allah guide u brother

[@theoarsman1]

Jay, when you and your team have unpacked so much of data from other sources, why don't you dedicate a few sessions towards Õhlig, Püin and Luxenberg.

[@sidprice6214]

Thats it don't forget to unpack their bullshit too.

[@akinsdecaprio]

Wonderful information

[@WerIstWieJesus]

I know about this book of "Christoph Luxenberg" since a very long time and like this interesting book. I am pretty sure who this christian theologian is. He has learned theology and aramaic when he had finished another profession and tried his method with the aramaic words of Jesus, without any success. His results weren't received by the scientific community. I don't take him to serious. But some of his results are interesting. And if you follow my comments you see that also I think that "Mohammed" in the dome of the rock is a title for Jesus. On the other hand in the whole ancient history of the church there is not one heretical christian group known that would deny that Jesus is the Son of God. If such a christian group would have existed it would have been known by the historians of the church. The thesis that there were christians that denied that Jesus is the Son of God and pretended that he was only a servant is absurd. IMHO the inscriptions of the dome of the rock are more catholic than the Byzantines who began to accept Arianism. IMHO the inscriptions polemize against arianism that said that Jesus was only higher than the angels but created. Abd'allah = Son of God.

[@WerIstWieJesus]

@John Wick That's it. We shouldn't take the arab of today, but the old arab. The hebrew word ebed that is at the source translates the greek pais in the LXXII. Pais is son. In the oriental world servants were treated like children. Jesus says that when the son is under the authority of the father there is no difference between servant and son. The ancient arab abd is a word for son.

[@thalamay]

You are wrong regarding your assertion that there weren’t any Christian sects that denied that Jesus was the son of god. They definitely did exist. Look up the term “Adoptionism”. While I personally don’t subscribe to the “evolutionary model” of Christology championed by Bart Ehrman and many others which states that Christians started out with a “low” Christology (i.e. Jesus being human) and evolved towards a “high” Christology (i.e. Jesus being divine), we have plenty of evidence of prominent Adoptionist from antiquity. Personally, I rather believe the opposite, that Christians started out with a “high” Christology and it evolved into lower and lower Christologies. But I’m aware that this is a fringe opinion.

[@WerIstWieJesus]

@@thalamay Also the early adoptianism thaught that Jesus was Son of God after adoption. It even taught that Jesus was God after resurrection.

[@trinitymatrix9719]

Another nail in the infamous i slam coffin. I can literally see the coffin being lowered into the hole in the earth.

[@twistedtitan5485]

No.... A burning lake of fire

[@historyrogue5056]

Hehe Islam is 1.8 billion people how is that a coffin?

[@twistedtitan5485]

@@historyrogue5056 It's a coffin because Jesus said so in the ingeel which you claim is corrupted. He says: Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: 14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. That's how 1.8 billion can be buried in a coffin being submerged in to a burning lake of fire.

[@andanandan6061]

@@twistedtitan5485 that is just fabricated Hadith of Jesus without chain of naration. Just information from unknown dudes 2000 years ago. 🤦

[@bachamadu2076]

I've yet to listen the whole thing. Though it's far strerch, it's possible in so far as the Mohammed means the appointed one in comparsion with Christ meaning the annoited one. Now i'm going to listen what Jay has to say...

[@silitongakantate7255]

Thank you Dr.Jay Smith

[@preapple]

The praised one. MHMD. Hallelujah! I am more and more becoming convinced that the Ummayads were not Muslim. Some mix of melkite, arian, monophysite influences.

[@thalamay]

I agree, they were Christians, albeit a different kind of Christians to the trinitarian view we see today. That’s actually also quite obvious when you look at the supposed Muslim conquest of Spain. In 839, Kalif Abd ar-Rahman II organised a Synode for all of Spain. The Bishops there didn’t talk about Christology, apparently there weren’t any issues, they didn’t mention a separate religion like Islam which should have been on the forefront of their minds if Islam was taking over Spain. No, their biggest concern was a heretical sect called the “Casians”, a movement so insignificant that we don’t even know who they were or what they believed. We have a letter from the Bishop of Córdoba from 840 in which he decried that the people of Córdoba believed that Jesus was only a man, not the son of god and that they used the gospel of Matthew. So we’re clearly looking at Christians. But then something changed and in 850, we have the first reference for a new religion when the Spanish bishops take up a position against Islam. In the East, that evolution from Adoptionist Christianity to Islam took place a bit earlier, maybe a decade or two. But it’s very visible in Spain where there was some back and forth going on for some time with Islam slowly gaining ground. Only in the 12th century a rigid Sunni Islam was forced upon Spain which basically put an end to Christianity in public.

[@c.w_]

@@thalamay interesting hypothesis. I would love to hear Mel, Jays etc response to this and whether this was also the case in the wider empire too. The evidence must be there to back up or deny this hypothesis.

[@fantasia55]

@@thalamay Fascinating! Please write more about this.

[@preapple]

@@fantasia55 google " Umayyad dynasty conversion to Islam"

[@fantasia55]

@@preapple Thanks! The article is fascinating, though it should have been edited better. Too many asides and non sequiturs (eg, Spanish Saracens Reaching Italy).

[@manager1166]

The Aramaic Language of the Quran by Gabriel Sawma is also very clear.

[@sidprice6214]

Very clear rubbish

[@firstclass444]

Please keep unpacking

[@africarisingsoontv9604]

Ooh my God this is good and true because God can not confuse people by giving them many ways

[@theabstracthour178]

If he knew anything at all then he’d realize over a million Muslims know the entire Quran by heart. And that Jesus is mentioned by name in the Quran.

[@peacock69mcp]

Mohammed was a title. Definitely not a man's name.

[@samsulazlanosman2287]

yes, a person only a title can come up with a book that every persons read, follow or even questioned,

[@Bei-Abedan]

It is a biblical Hebrew name for the Temple of God. For the Messianic Hebrews who wrote the Quran that would mean none other than Jesus.

[@gk-qf9hv]

You misunderstand (maybe on purpose) what Dr. Luxenberg is saying. He is saying that there are Two Muhammad! The first one is Jesus (found on Dom of the rock). And the second one is the prophet.

[@theabstracthour178]

Exactly, it’s so weird that these people can’t comprehend that Jesus and Muhammad are both in the Quran.

[@9jaForce]

That's the idea he is trying to communicate. You're the one misunderstooding him. The first Mohammed was based on a unitarian heresy representative of the Jesus of the earliest Muslims. The second mohammed may likely be a contrived representation of Al-Malik and some other false prophet whose stories were merged and further corrupted by the Abbassids.

[@gk-qf9hv]

@@9jaForce At what time in this video is he saying that? 🤔

[@gk-qf9hv]

@@9jaForce And again, this is NOT what Luxenberg is saying!

[@9jaForce]

@@gk-qf9hv it's been a series. You have to put it all together.

[@joelgough6902]

What would be particularly useful for us who cannot read Arabic or Aramaic, is for someone to put together all the (claimed as 20%) Quranic passages that most likely are from the prevalent Monophysite understanding / literature of the 7th and 8th centuries in a simple straightforward publication. While the videos by Jay, Al Fadi, et al, are fascinating, they stimulate yet also wash over us and don’t provide us with something to ponder in detail. It would be nice for us to have at our disposal a pre/proto Islamic Quran.

[@aaaabraham837]

@mysotiras9 Mohammad (saw) was Jesus...ha ha ha,...you must worship Mohammad (saw) now!!!

[@sidprice6214]

Thats because they are making it up as they go along.

[@cavalier2097]

@PfanderFlims Jay are you familiar with this book Islam: In Light of History written by Rafat Amari

[@CharlesCherub]

I'm unable to tolerate this; any cult that teaches Jesus is not God should never be described as Christian.

[@andanandan6061]

Wait. how about early cult of Jesus ? They Didn't worship Jesus bcz Jesus himself never Told them He Is God.

[@CharlesCherub]

​@@andanandan6061 IDK what cult you are referencing, the cults that denied Jesus was fully divine emerged later, second and third centuries, eg arguing he was a created being or not a physical being for example; almost all these heretical cults still afforded Jesus divine status in some respect. You have to bear in mind - that in English I have the distinct advantage that the capitalised God refers only to the God of the Bible. That clarity is a function of written English only, and wasn't available to Jesus speaking in Aramaic in the first Century. During his ministry, and shortly after many Jews did not accept Jesus' claim to be divine, ie *the* Son of Man, whom the Jews of that time - based on the book of Daniel understand to be God appearing in Human Form (Which the Jews also called the Messiah *the* Son of God) . It was this claim that cause the Chief Priest to tear his robes, and send Jesus to the cross. Mat 26:63 But Jesus held his peace. And the high priest answered and said unto him, I adjure thee by the living God, that thou tell us whether thou be the Christ, the Son of God. Mat 26:64 Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven. Mat 26:65 Then the high priest rent his clothes, saying, He hath spoken blasphemy; what further need have we of witnesses? behold, now ye have heard his blasphemy. Mat 26:66 What think ye? They answered and said, He is guilty of death You have to understand that if Jesus had in the C1st said something as simplistic as "I am God" that would have come across to his audience as "I am a god" because many people eg Roman Emperors made such claims. Simply it's not enough to say in a first century Jewish and Roman context that "I am the God" It would be a functionally meaningless statement - the speaker would need to identify the one true God - from all the other gods, using the one true God's proper names. Otherwise people would shrug and say to you which god are you talking about? This is what Jesus did by calling himself *the* Son of Man, and by taking the name "I AM" The Jews who heard this were in no doubt he meant God, and not a god, hence some tried to stone him for these claims, and later at his trial the Chief Priest sent him to be crucified by the Romans.

[@donavonmorrison931]

when does GOD pray to Himself or die for 3 days and 3 nights? What happened to the world when GOD died for 3 days and 3 nights ? If GOD died as you said, then He is not omnipresence or omnipotent! You are confused, too bad!

[@CharlesCherub]

​@@donavonmorrison931 You are rather confused. Your god swears by himself, what is that if not praying to himself? What happens when you die, do you cease to exist? Are you an atheist, denying there is a spirit of man, a soul? Seriously you argument is nonsensical. God is Spirit, it is the nature of God, we are made in God's image as spirits, that is why the true word of the true One God, describes God as the Father of spirits, Because God is a Father and has a Son, and the Son brings many sons (mankind) into glory. God is a Spirit means the body of the man Jesus Chrsit can die, be buried for three days, but the Spirit of God cannot die, so continues to be omnipresent, omnipotent and omniscient. Taking on flesh does not change God who cannot change, nor more than creating your flesh, my flesh, and the entire cosmos changed the nature of God.

[@donavonmorrison931]

​@@CharlesCherub I am not confused, all I know is from scripture like Matthew 10:28, John 8:23, John 18:36, and John 10:18 confer Quran 4:156-157; if according to both Quran and Bible Jesus PBUH is the WORD of GOD, then common sense teaches us that the WORD of GOD is ETERNAL, which means it never died or dies, meaning He did not suffer spiritually, but physically as a man He suffered, but His true nature was a SPIRIT and not a man! If this makes sense!

[@rooneye]

Never heard this theory before lol

[@firstnamesecondname852]

That theory is more than 100 years old and was first introduced by a German-Hungarian Jew already during the 19th century. That you never heard of it just reveals your utter ignorance and stupidity. Lol

[@sidprice6214]

Thats because its balony.

[@azedinebenammar4339]

Jay, I envy your enthusiasm! You're doing great work for Islam and Muslims without knowing it! By trying to refute the obvious you are motivating many Muslims to delve into subjects they have neglected hitherto. Thank you!

[@NazzYr101]

I thank jay for all his efforts so we as Muslims can focus on worshipping God while jay and company go forth with there little adventure into the past on wild goose chases while we all know for a fact that Jesus pbuh was a practicing Jew in all respects. Submitting to God and actually being Muslim. So have fun. And thank you for your efforts 😊

[@NazzYr101]

@Eli Sheets finally. Someone who can construct a proper sentence. Hello 👋

[@NazzYr101]

@Eli Sheets what's weird about that? A Muslim Jew. Has a nice kinda ring to it don't you think? If you translate it to English it goes like: "Hebrew speaking man submitting to Gods will"

[@diarmaid0heineachain314]

@@NazzYr101 You say that Jesus (Praised be his holy name) was a Muslim. A problem with that is I never heard of him chopping off people’s hands, slitting people’s throats, or teaching his disciples to do so.

[@NazzYr101]

@Eli Sheets Lol once you push yourself beyond your comfort zone and learn a new language then new horizons appear for you. That's a basic fact. So learning Arabic for the purpose of understanding an Arabic Quran. One of the richest languages in the world btw. Opens you up to a plethora of meaning. Levels upon levels of light. And those who take it in ridicule are enshrouded in a darkness they just simply can't perceive. Yet. The message from God to humanity is such a simple one. Even an illiterate man could get it. Should put anyone else in modern times to shame for being so lost in conjecture and doubt about it. (This includes doubts in the Torah, the Zabur and Injeel)

[@judahsamaria5250]

Thank you so much I'm continually learning more and more.

[@theabstracthour178]

If he knew anything at all then he’d realize over a million Muslims know the entire Quran by heart. And that Jesus is mentioned by name in the Quran.

[@sidprice6214]

bullshit baffles brains

[@gilbertjones9157]

Barrowed in language and theology, barrowed in stories, it seems to be their way.

[@neo3768]

Stealing is a more correct word

[@sidprice6214]

@@neo3768 Show one verse of the Quran that was stolen.

[@theabstracthour178]

If Muhammad is a title then the man it’s talking about can’t be Jesus unless the Bible lies about virgin birth.

[@9jaForce]

He is referring to the understanding of the earliest Muslims, not the Islam of the hadith.

[@Kielimies]

_Aslama/muslim_ ( verbal noun _islaam_ ) is the Arabic cognate of the Aramaic verb _ašlem/mašlem_ "hand over, betray" (the verb in Luke 22 verse 48 in the Syro-Aramaic NT). #themoreyouknow

[@moonshine456sundays3]

Okay, but in christianity we are taught/ fall under grace teachings from the book of Matthew which aligns with the teachings of Jesus Christ, and from my understanding the Islamic religion follows more the old testament which falls within law which wasn't Jesus's teachings but Moses hence their recognition of Jesus as a prophet?Now I am even more confused.

[@moko8870]

Jesus scarified his life for humanity. The other one sacrificed humanity for personal glory!

[@NoOne-ul8ni]

😂

[@husainmohd6377]

Okay, then will you type One Message Foundation in KZbin. Check honestly and firm your faith even more.

[@nuryatitarakan9298]

jesus is not god. he's just a prophet. therefore you often compare him with Muhammad.

[@kaydod3190]

@@nuryatitarakan9298 STFU

[@thinkingperson2122]

Well. The Muslims worship Jesus after all. This is an extraordinary turn of events! Praise be to the Lord Jesus!

[@davidporter9147]

With the intent of providing clarification, Muslims do not worship Jesus or Muhammad.

[@Frst2nxt]

@@davidporter9147 they worship satan

[@husainmohd6377]

Okay, will you type One Message Foundation in KZbin. Please check it out.

[@andanandan6061]

@@husainmohd6377 your Christian brother and sister from SEA call God the Father as "Allah the Father" or according to you He can be called as "SATAN the Father". 😂

[@sidprice6214]

More idiocy.

[@justinhadley2583]

I always wondered why parts of the Quran read like they were Christian products, not the work of a 7th century Arabic merchant. Any thoughts on how this may have impacted the late date of the crusades? If Islam was developing it may make sense as to why they allowed pilgrimages longer and why Christians only resorted to the crusades later.

[@lefamiglia2392]

Dr, isn't there already a backdrop and stories of Muhammad and his wives?

[@morneterblanche2228]

I would like to know the real reason why thy set the world view calander to zero in the year 666AD

[@bamssudardjo2572]

Check on the BIBLE . Prophet Daniel said.. about time.

[@morneterblanche2228]

@@bamssudardjo2572 thank you , will do so

[@surface4985]

And yet they take there cult so seriously.

[@cbak1819]

😢 that is so tragic😢 but I rejoice in the Spirit and in Truth!

[@trinitarianchampion]

The Hidden Origins of Islam is not available anywhere unless you are willing to pay a higher price. I'd like to check it out.

[@thalamay]

Try Google books, you should be able to read large portions there.

[@roshlew6994]

Jesus written in Syriac looks like Mohammad written in Arabic

[@roshlew6994]

@@AffableCounselorNumber1 Isa ibn Maryam is not Jesus of Bible

[@Joorawon.M.Yousuf]

#Rosh there's no "J" in aramaic nor in Hebrew❗how are you going to reconcile that❓

[@roshlew6994]

@@Joorawon.M.Yousuf how is it relevant? Yeshua in Aramaic/Hebrew, Yehsu in Arabic and Jesus in English.. Issa is a made up name. Jesus Christ in Aramaic is Yeshua Msheekha . In Syriac there are of course variants ,Yeshuo Msheekho in Western Syriac,Yeshua Msheekha in Eastern Syriac.

[@greenbird679]

@@Joorawon.M.Yousuf Abdul come up with better question. Jesus is English translation of Yeshua in Aramaic. Don't ask stupid questions, just because stupidity is amazing

[@thehandofjibreel8756]

@@roshlew6994 issa or isa is an Arabized transliteration of the Greek word iesous or iesou. It is a Greek loan word for Jesus. Some Arabic scholars have painfully admitted it. It's possible that the Qu'ran copied the name from an Arabic translation of the Greek Bible.

[@conferenceroom910]

I have the Luxembourg book and it is so fascinating. After reading that book, you will just conclude that Quran is nothing but, totally a Christian book. I would like to borrow this to my Muslim Boss at work, but i am afraid. Thank you Dr. Jay for your effort.

[@Ilsethomas]

If you write down the title and author of the book and you write that you absolutely want to read it and you put it on your desk so he can see it, he's definitely going to look for it what it is about it. After that, you have woken up the interest in the book.

[@Joorawon.M.Yousuf]

#SUBHAAN_ALLAH❗ Earlier the al-Qur'an was considered to be a book inspired by SATAN❗So what happened over night❓What about the SATANIC VERSES ⁉️ and the DEVIL in the cave ⁉️ and the "PRAISED ONE" marrying a 6 years old girl ⁉️ the MISSING verses that was eaten by some goat ⁉️ #Subhaan_Allah #Allahou_Ackbar

[@saligia9230]

@John Wick You have to read Luxembourg in german. If you don't understand german, you have no propper understanding 😎😛

[@conferenceroom910]

@@Ilsethomas Definitely. Maybe I take the book to the office and keep it on my desk in a visible location so he can see it.

[@allistaircampbell9282]

@@saligia9230 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@AprendeMovimiento]

great time to be alive!

[@roncoleman2535]

Jay, how does this view clear with what is said of the Muslims, God who begets no offspring, etc. ?

[@begobolehsjwjangan2359]

you don't bring logic in here. this is a "no logic allowed" channel.

[@husainmohd6377]

I have references for your question. Please type One Message Foundation in KZbin.

[@davidchase1439]

Like a proto Mormonism heresy cloaked in scriptures

[@fantasia55]

Joseph Smith patterned Mormonism after Islam.

[@davidchase1439]

@@fantasia55 due to same person that talked to Muhhamed talked to Smith

[@humansdosuck]

Three basic important things I've not seen you answer ever: 1. If everything regarding early Islam comes from the north how does that coincide with the Sanaa manuscript which is from Yemen? 2. Why would the abbasid want to make everything centered in south in the Hijaz region? Wouldn't it be much better for them to base everything in their stronghold in what is today Iraq? 3. You claim there were "no Jevvs that far south" but what about the Jevvs of Yemen?

[@pfanderfilms]

mysotiras9 has answered your 3 questions adequately above, which were all referred to in previous episodes, but perhaps you haven't seen them?

[@humansdosuck]

@mysotiras9 1. Okay but you have no evidence it was written much farther north and it will be more likely that it was written in the area it was found or atleast close to it. 2. There is no such thing as "pure Arab". Arab is a term that originally describe someone of the desert, and it is not an ethnos. If it was all about gaining power and influence, making it all based in their stronghold in Iraq or somewhere nearby would still benefit them much more, so this explanation is not too convicing. 3. He claims there were no Jevvs "that far south" which would include Yemen, and it is simply not true. Also Yemen is not that far from the Hijaz compared to other areas in Iraq or Syria. The hijaz was a wasteland and not very much populated, but it is certainly conceivable that some Jevvs from Yemen arrived there at that point.

[@humansdosuck]

@@pfanderfilms I have seen them and you did mention some of these things but that is not the same as providing a proper answer to it. For example you mentioned the Sanaa manuscript but that does not mean you answered the issue I presented here.

[@humansdosuck]

@mysotiras9 Please stop with this moronic attitude of thinking anyone who questions things presented here is a MusIim troll. Not a MusIim. I'm actually trying to examine things critically and get closer to the truth of what has transpired, which is why I question things that are far from being certain or accurate.

[@MrOsiric]

Very interesting, First i heard of Bismilla thing as referring to Jesus was from Christian Prince.. But not sure if he elaborated upon it.

[@nirvanasamadi2542]

Your research on the origin of islam, Muhammad, and other religions and prophets are appreciated and much needed. However, in my opinion, it is equally important to remember the real message revealed by all messengers and other enlightened people, which is finding the real Christ in every human being, and not to focus much on the historical Moses, Jesus, or Muhammad. Understanding the real message behind all holy books, prophets, and enlightened people means realizing the real Seer internally, and not to pay much attention to external appearances or historical persons who might existed or not! We are very grateful to every one is helping us realizing our own TRUTH and remembering who we really are. Gratitude, love and harmony is very different from worship and slavery, and if we were to ask the same prophets and messengers we believe in, I do not think they could agree more! For those who know the difference among direct experience, true KNOWING, blind belief, and blind disbelief I know that they do not even need to read!

[@sidprice6214]

He didn't do much research on the origins of Islam - what he is doing is speculating.

[@jameslanning8405]

So, is "Aramaic," the same as "Arabic?" For many years, I was given the impression that Aramaic was a 'Greek, hybrid,' or derivative, of Greek. For many years, it was my impression, that Muhammad, desired to gather the scattered tribes of 'his people,' the Arabs, and bring them together, as a singular nation. Ridding the Arab tribes of the pantheon of gods, was the singular way he had devised, to do this. Israel was a singular people, serving one God. They were a nation of 12 tribes. But one people, under one God. And their link to the Arabs was all the way back to Abraham, his two sons, Jacob and Ishmael. The Christians, also had many countries and tribes, that also became one, "at least religiously," under Christianity. While that's a very simple way of stating it, It seemed true enough, when the Christians went to war against the Islamic expansion of their kingdoms. The children of Ishmael, the other son of Abraham, now comprised the tribes of Arabs. Yet, the Arabs were mostly a waring lot, attacking one another, and seeking blood for every offense.

[@Kevin_Beach]

Aramaic and Arabic are entirely separate languages. They are connected, in that they are both semitic languages, as is Hebrew, but they developed more than 1,000 years apart from each other. Aramaic was current in the Middle East generally from about 1000 BC and was the mother tongue of Jesus and His disciples; its linguistic descendant, Syriac, is still spoken in small areas of Syria and Iraq. Arabic was a very local language that probably grew somewhere in the Arabian peninsular and did not become widely spread until it became the language of Islam and was spread with the Islamic movement starting in the 7th century AD.

[@joelpaddock5199]

In Genesis 31:47 when Jacob and Laban make peace and put up a boundary marker, Jacob calls the monument by the Hebrew word Galleed and Laban calls it by a name in Aramaic with the same meaning. Jacob had gone to Laban to find a wife in a similar way that Isaac did, that is going back to the area of Mesopotamia where Abraham had left after he was called by God. So by the time of Jacob, the language in that area was Aramaic, and there's a sense that a lot of the conflict that went on between them was due to not being able to easily understand each other's language. They are similar, but different enough to cause mix ups.

[@michaelh070]

Aramaic is actually the mother language of Hebrew and Arabic. It was speaken way before these two languages, and some scholars even claim that Adam and Eve spoke Aramaic. Jesus also spoke the Aramaic as it was the lingua franca at that time in the Near East. Syriac is a dialect of Eastern Aramaic and was the mother tongue of the ancient christians from northern Mesopotamia, and is still spoken and used in the liturgy of the many Syriac churches. It is incorrect that many of these christians, just as in this video, were called ‘Monophysite’. Most of them were actually ‘Miaphysite’ and believed in 1 Nature in Christ, a Divine-Human nature, so not only a Divine nature. This is still the believe of one of the Syriac churches, called the Syriac Orthodox church of Antioch, with Peter as her first bishop. (This is also the belief of the other Oriëntal orthodox churches.) Of course there were also Nestorians, who believed that Christ and God were separate. These believers also spoke and still speak the Syriac language but live more to the east of Syria, in Northern Iraq en Northwest Iran. It is important not to mangle all these Syriac christians in 1 group of faith, although they might have the same ethnicity. Some claim that the Syriac christians of Northern Mesopotamia are descendants of the Arameans, others claim that they are descendants of the Assyrians. God bless.

[@jeid3822]

Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)says never treat me as GOD as you (christians) treat JESUS CHRIST(pbuh) from prophet to GOD ♥♥♥✌🤣

[@purplesand3874]

Can't wait to learn more!!! Thank you Dr. Smith!!!

[@inspiration638]

I subscribed to brother James channel why it's unsubscribed?? That's why I wondering why I don't get notification from brother James channel. Now it's appeared but unsubscribed.

[@MarkCyrill]

The real name of Muhamed is (quthom ), But the word Muhamed in Syriac means the praised one it was refer to Jesus, but quthom took that name to deceive Christian people, So the name exists before him but he named himself after that name. It doesn’t mean he didn’t exist.

[@aaaabraham837]

Show me where...

[@hans471]

The "critical scholars consensus" = oxymoron ;-)

[@firstnamesecondname852]

Those who neither know who is meant by these scholars, nor what is a consensus or even an oxymoron should not comment on these topics at all.

[@hans471]

​@@firstnamesecondname852 In case you did not understand my point, let me make it more simple for you: If you define a subgroup of people which all of the same opinion and then claim that there is consensus within this subgroup of people, then you don't cnvey much information. However, then you use the term 'consensus' in a context which contradicts its meaning.

[@firstnamesecondname852]

@@hans471 🤦 It's like I already said: You don't know what you are talking about at all. The number is completely irrelevant. Two people are already enough. If they agree with each other, they have reached a consensus. Whether you like it or not doesn't matter, Hanswurst.

[@hans471]

@mysotiras9 "Muslim scholars" would be an oxymoron following your definition 👍😉

[@alisimsir9259]

Professor Ahmed Osman writes (see his books about islam ) that quran was a tranlation of Christian en jewish writins in arabic language. old testament was also an translation of egyption writings after 600 years in greek, latin and hebrews. The story of genesis mozes etc. are changed after 600 years. proofs of ahmed osman are very interesting. can you say something about thad?

[@somalimasixi9750]

Victory belongs to Jesus Christ