The Syro-Aramaic Reading of the Quran

From Wikipedia:
Christoph Luxenberg is the pseudonym of the author of The Syro-Aramaic Reading of the Koran: A Contribution to the Decoding of the Language of the Qur'an (German edition 2000, English translation 2007) and several articles in anthologies about early Islam.
Luxenberg came into the public eye in the years after 2000, following the publication of his first book (or at least the first one under this pseudonym), The Syro-Aramaic Reading of the Koran, which asserted that the language of the early compositions of the Qur'an was not exclusively Arabic, as assumed by the classical commentators, but rather is rooted in the Syro-Aramaic dialect of the 7th century Meccan Quraysh tribe, which is associated in the early histories with the founding of the religion of Islam. Luxenberg's premise is that the Aramaic language, which was prevalent throughout the Middle East during the early period of Islam, and was the language of culture and Christian liturgy, had a profound influence on the scriptural composition and meaning of the contents of the Koran.
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Luxenberg remarks that the Qur'an contains much ambiguous and even inexplicable language. He asserts that even Muslim scholars find some passages difficult to parse and have written reams of Quranic commentary attempting to explain these passages. The assumption behind their endeavours, however, has always been that any difficult passage is both true and meaningful, and that it can be deciphered with the tools of traditional Muslim scholarship. Luxenberg accuses Western academic scholars of the Qur'an of taking a timid and imitative approach, relying too heavily on the biased work of Muslim scholars.
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[@assyrian2NV]

As a native Aramaic-Syriac speaker I assure you that Quranic Arabic has the same roots as Syriac just like every other Semitic language. For example, the word HOURI comes from the ROOT word H-W-R - In Arabic that is pronounced as HOOR, in Syriac it is pronounced KHWAR-A which actually means "White" and not "Virgin". This book is worth checking out especially if you understand Syriac.

[@bijosn]

@@hm4084 that doesnt help your case much because its still referring to a person (woman - it doesnt make sense that they would get 72 men as a reward). So your allah (fake) is still promising carnal desires in your hedonistic heaven.

[@cheghiskhan3977]

@hm4084 So you try to say that the islamic paradise dwellers will be supplied with white eyed beauties, but no guarantee that they would be virgin. Right??? But, this is also stupid. Do you think purely white eyes are beautiful??? I think it would be very ugly😁...

[@joahua122]

nah lol you are a liar go to hell bitch i am an arab and quranic arabic is just language of quraish tribe

[@joahua122]

@@hm4084 bro they are disgusting lol this aramaic speaker just want to claim arab history

[@mhkwolf]

And I'm a native Italian speaker and I assure you that Don Quixote Spanish has the same roots as Italian just like every other Latin language. Y'all treacherously dumb.

[@qetoun]

This documentary has aged like fine wine.

[@kangleipak_pride]

Syriac Christian from India here.. Peace to our persecuted brothers and sisters in middle east..

[@Phyziacom]

hahaha

[@kangleipak_pride]

​@@PhyziacomWhats that pontification?

[@NorthernGate777]

Thank you for posting this video

[@muhammmadrizwan7334]

Which is the best source to learn Syriac and write it beautifully? Thanks and Best Regards.

[@HZ_LionsDen]

I wish you the best man. Whatever it is may you be rewarded.

[@blechinger]

Very interesting to say the least. The difference between translations on the reading of what the archangel said to Mary is pretty significant, I think.

[@user-cjl3bjc0cms8]

Go to the channel "Thomas Alexander" he is working on this project and provides updates and explanations in English.

[@taoubajouini2254]

Great! Very enlightening video, especially hearing Christoph Luxenberg himself speaking is very intriguing. He has done a GREAT job to decipher the inexplicable words from the Coran and link them to Christian words and to Armaic language. Could you please tell us where did you extract this video from? I am interested in watching the full documentary.

[@sidprice6214]

pile of crap

[@hzoonka4203]

Just watched this video again and the conclusion is this;the Quran borrowed heavily from the early christian writings.[my opinion only]

[@BryceGirdner]

Early Muhammad was very Jewish, then Christian. There are early caliph coins with the ruler holding a cross. It wasn’t until Abd’ Al-Malik that we really start to see Islam solidify. The sword of Islam is a great book to read. Listen to the history of Byzantium podcast with Tom Holland interviews. It’s very clear Islam took a few centuries to really become what we know today. That’s okay as well. Christianity took time to marinate. The Romans thought early Christianity was a Jewsish Hersey…. Which both Christianity and Islam are. FYI, I’m agnostic. I just like history, man. Ali, the 4th Caliph, was an heir to the Ghassasnids, an Arab tribe on the border to Roman levant. Muawiyah, even according to traditional Muslim accounts, held lands in Roman Syria and Palestine. Not really sure how that’s possible if he was from Mecca but okay. It’s likely to me the people who invaded the Romans and Persians after the Great War were border tribes taking advantage of the situation. It sounds anticlimactic, but these Arabs were probably just raiding fertile lands and had so much success it snowballed into the Arab Empire.

[@hydaromar6532]

We believe in the Jewish prophets a d believe Israel was God's chosen nation. Muhammad peace be upon him is the last messenger from Ishmael son of Abeaham peace be upon him

[@whateverbabe]

@@hydaromar6532 that's cause he stole stories from other religions and ancient myths. Nothing holy about that.

[@hydaromar6532]

@@whateverbabe prove it then I'll believe you

[@whateverbabe]

@@hydaromar6532 how about you read some books about ancient civilisations and myths??? Especially those in the middle east, he literally stole everything. Even zarathustrian teachings and rituals like the Kaaba which is a pagan practice.

[@FreeFalasteen4ever]

إِنّا نَحنُ نَزَّلنَا الذِّكرَ وَإِنّا لَهُ لَحافِظونَ

[@moroccanthinker-li8my]

you cant prove that quran wasnt humans word using the same quran as a prove, are u an idiot ? lol if it was really protected by god why the shia have a different quran and even in the sunna community the quran in some countries are not the same like egypt and morocco etc...

[@basilhendricks788]

No virgins only grapes imagine if you get there, to die for grapes and no firm maidens

[@Kungfupanda839]

LOL

[@bigfan2452]

Obviously it is virgins not grapes. No one would die for grapes but people would die for virgins.

[@bossxero]

Where can I find the full version of this documentary and what is the original title for it? Thank you

[@YeshuaYaakov]

If you wanna learn more just buy two books from gunter luling and Christopher Luxembourg

[@HKHasty]

As a Muslim, I welcome such studies and find it interesting. The Arabic alphabet comes from Phoenician alphabet, which all modern Western alphabets come from. Naturally, Arabic language did not exist in isolation but evolved from and alongside other languages in the region.

[@abubaytnighan6480]

I appreciate your unbiased approach. Many muslims refuse to accept that Arabic was created by humans and is not the first semetic language. They feel the need to make it divine.

[@user-vz6vf5zn9t]

When you leaving Islam ?

[@HKHasty]

@@user-vz6vf5zn9t in your dreams

[@user-vz6vf5zn9t]

@@HKHasty You Muslim have Low IQ, Islam is nothing but a fabrication. How the Quran is new revelation but it’s just repeating Stories that be told for hundreds of years also taking stories from the Talmud🤣🤣🤣. Wake the hell up.

[@Cisse142]

​@@HKHastyIslam Dies By The Sword 🗡️⚔️

[@darklightraven]

as a translator of arabic, hebrew and french to finnish, i can say what this guy is saying is a none sens, i read the quran in arabic, never seen the verse saying the earth goes forward, or any word in arabic that he says doesn't mean what he says

[@tinaxoxo1206]

Most of the comments are written in English , i can read Arabic , how do you write صلاه in Arabic. It is ص ل ا ة ، you will find it in the Quran written صلوة ص لو ة ، it is the Aramaic word for صلوة so the one who wrote the letters kept it as it is , while the Arabs read it salat , and write it salat . Ans so many other words which were wrongly written because they did not know the meaning in Aramic and thus had a different meaning . Arabic language was derived from Aramic , Aramic is older than Arabic . Arabs did not have a written language when the Quran was revealed. So they took the 22 alphabet letters of Aramic and added another six which are الهمزة ، الألف، الشدة، ،ى ال التعريف والنقطة . If someone can read Aramic he could read the old version of the Quran easily and interpret it.

[@hunnybean269]

Arabic is not derived from aramaic, but influenced by it. Arabic is much closer to proto semetic and shares its characteristics much more than hebrew and Aramaic

[@kcthefree5976]

بالضبط

[@guardingsoul6652]

All semetic languages have always existed

[@chrislux3687]

@@hunnybean269 Do you mean spoken or written Arabic ? Written Arabic is not older than the Qur'ân (more exactly Syriac "Qeryân")., "Classical Arabic" not older than the first Arabic grammar of Sibawayh or Siboyeh (second half of the 8th century)., the "classical" Arabic literature not older than this grammar. How do you believe that this "neo-classical" Arabic is older than the Hebrew and Aramaic literature ? The so-called "Classical Arabic" is a late conventional language, inspired from diverse old Semitic languages as Accadian, Ugaritic, South-Arabian and Aramaic. You may believe or not believe.

[@abdur-rahmanapenebiik923]

U wrong mr. Arabic is not origin from Aramiac. Aramiac is one of the slightly weak semetic root today. Arabic language is purest and in the Arabic tongue. There is nothing that is Arabic borrowing words from Aramiac. U wrong

[@ranro7371]

The Aramaic word for God is "Alaha". It's the word Isa PBUH used. Sounds familiar? Written without the confusing vowels it is written A-L-H ܐ ܠܗܐ (alap-lamed-he) as found in Targum or in Tanakh (Daniel, Ezra), Syriac Aramaic (Peshitta), reduced from the Arabic original (of which Aramaic is a dialect continuum as will be explained) it is written in the Arabic script 'A-L-L-H' (Aleph-Lam-Lam-Ha) add an A before the last H for vocalization. The word God in another rendition in Hebrew ʾĕlōah is derived from a base ʾilāh, an Arabic word, written without confusing vowel it is A-L-H in the Arabic script, pronounced ilah not eloah. Hebrew dropped the glottal stop and mumbled it, aramic mumbled a little less and it became elaha. Infact both are written written A-L-H in Arabic, it is pronounced i in Arabic and not A because it is an Alef with hamza below (إ أ ) They are two different forms of Alef. And it mean "a god", it is the non definitive form of A-L-L-H, in which the Alef is without a glottal stop/hamza,(ا), but this kind of nuance is lost in the dialect continua. infact "YHWH" itself is an Arabic word as discussed by Professor. Israel Knohl (Professor of Biblical studies at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem) in the paper" YHWH: The Original Arabic Meaning of the Name." jesus as his name is often misspelled due to the lack of the ayin sound in Greek, which was rendered to Iesous, coupling the nearest sound to ayin, same letter found in 'Iraq', which sounds entirely different in Arabic form 'Iran' in Arabic, with the -ous Greek suffix that Greeks typically add to their names 'HerodotOS', 'PlotinUS', 'AchelOUS' and later mumbled into a J. The yeshua rendition of Isa (his name in the Qur'an) PBUH which is purported to be the name of Jesus is KNOWN to had been taken from greek. Western Syriac also use "Isho". Western Aramaic (separate from Syriac which is a dialect of Eastern Aramaic) use "Yeshu". Western Syriac has been separate from Western Aramaic for about 1000 years. And sounds don't even match up. Syriac is a Christian liturgical language yet the four letters of the name of Jesus «ܝܫܘܥ» [ = Judeo-Babylonian Aramaic: «ישוע» ] sounds totally different in West vs East Syriac, viz. vocalized akin to Christian Arabic, Hebrew, Aramaic «ܝܶܫܽܘܥ» (Yēšūʿ) in West Syriac, but pronounced more akin to Muslim Arabic Quran character name Isa in East Syriac «ܝܑܼܫܘܿܥ» (ʾĪšōʿ). The reason for this confusion is their dropping of phonemes. Only someone that has no idea what the letters are or how they sound would have a name ending in a pharyngeal fricative like the ayin, if it were to be used in a name it would have had to be in the beginning, thus the Arabic rendition is the correct one. An example in English is how the appended -d is a common error amongst the English pronouncing Gaelic names. The name Donald arose from a common English mispronunciation of the Gaelic name Donal. Just how it is with donal becoming donald and the two becoming distinct and the original being regarded as something seperate so too did Isa PBUH turn to Iesous turn to jesus and when they tried going back to the original they confused it for yeshua ( ysu is how it is actually written) for Isa PBUH ( 3'eysah ) Schlözer in his preparation for the Arabia expedition in 1781 coined the term Semitic language: "From the Mediterranean to the Euphrates, from Mesopotamia to Arabia ruled one language, as is well known. Thus Syrians, Babylonians, Hebrews, and Arabs were one people (ein Volk). Phoenicians (Hamites) also spoke this language, which I would like to call the Semitic (die Semitische)." -Before Boas: The Genesis of Ethnography and Ethnology in the German By Han F. Vermeulen. He was only half right though, Arabic is the only corollary to "proto-semitic", infact the whole semitic classification is nonsensical as will be shown. "protosemetic" Alphabet (28), Arabic Alphabet (28), Latin transliteration, hebrew (22) 𐩠 𐩡 𐩢 𐩣 𐩤 𐩥 𐩦 𐩧 𐩨 𐩩 𐩪 𐩫 𐩬 𐩭 𐩮 𐩰 𐩱 𐩲 𐩳 𐩴 𐩵 𐩶 𐩷 𐩸 𐩹 𐩺 𐩻 𐩼 ا ب ت ث ج ح خ د ذ ر ز س ش ص ض ط ظ ع غ ف ق ك ل م ن ه و ي A b t ṯ j h kh d ḏ r z s sh ṣ ḍ ṭ ẓ ʿ ġ f q k l m n h w y א ב ג ד ה ו ז ח ט י כ ל מ נ ס ע פ צ ק ר ש ת Merged phonemes in hebrew and aramaic: ح, خ (h, kh) merged into only kh consonant remain س, ش (s, sh) merged into only Shin consonant remaining ط, ظ (ṭ/teth, ẓ) merged into only ṭ/teth consonant remaining ص, ض (ṣ, ḍ/Tsad ) merged into only ḍ/Tsad consonant remaining ع, غ (3'ayn, Ghayn) merged into a reducted ayin consonant remaining ت, ث (t/taw, th) merged into only t/taw consonant remaining The reason why the protoS alphabet here is 28 and not 29, is because the supposed extra letter is simply a س written in a different position, but it was shoehorned to obfuscated. In Arabic letter shapes are different depending on whether they are in the beginning , middle or end of a word. As a matter of fact, all of the knowledge needed for deciphering ancient texts and their complexity was derived from the Qur'an. It was by analyzing the syntactic structure of the Qur'an that the Arabic root system was developed. This system was first attested to in Kitab Al-Ayin, the first intralanguage dictionary of its kind, which preceded the Oxford English dictionary by 800 years. It was through this development that the concept of Arabic roots was established and later co-opted into the term 'semitic root,' allowing the decipherment of ancient scripts. In essence, they quite literally copied and pasted the entirety of the Arabic root. Hebrew had been dead, as well as all the other dialects of Arabic, until being 'revived' in a Frankensteinian fashion in the 18th and 19th centuries. The entire region spoke basically the same language, with mumbled dialect continuums spread about, and Arabic is the oldest form from which all these dialects branched off. As time passed, the language gradually became more degenerate, Language; When one looks at the actual linguistics, one will find that many were puzzled by the opposite, that is, how the other "semetic" languages were more "evolved" than Arabic, while Arabic had archaic features, not only archaic compared to bibilical Hebrew, Ethiopic, "Aramaic" contemporary "semetic" languages, but even archaic compared to languages from ancient antiquity; Ugaritic, Akkadain. What is meant here by Archaic is not what most readers think, it is Archaic not in the sense that it is simple, but rather that it is complex (think Latin to pig Latin or Italian or Old English, which had genders and case endings to modern English), not only grammatically, but also phonetically; All the so called semitic languages are supposed to have evolved from protosemetic, the Alphabet for protosemitic is that of the so called Ancient South Arabian (which interestingly corresponds with the traditional Arabic origins account) and has 28 Phonemes. Arabic has 28 phonemes. Hebrew has 22, same as Aramaic, and other "semitic" languages. Now pause for a second and think about it, how come Arabic, a language that is supposed to have come so late has the same number of letters as a language that supposedly predates it by over a millennium (Musnad script ~1300 BCE). Not only is the glossary of phonemes more diverse than any other semitic language, but the grammar is more complex, containing more cases and retains what's linguists noted for its antiquity, broken plurals. Indeed, a linguist has once noted that if one were to take everything we know about languages and how they develop, Arabic is older than Akkadian (~2500 BCE). And then the Qur'an appeared with the oldest possible form of the language thousands of years later. This is why the Arabs of that time were challenged to produce 10 similar verses, and they couldn't. People think it's a miracle because they couldn't do it, but I think the miracle is the language itself. They had never spoken Arabic, nor has any other language before or since had this mathematical precision. And when I say mathematical, I quite literally mean mathematical. Now how is it that the Qur'an came thousands of years later in an alphabet that had never been recorded before, and in the highest form the language had ever taken? The creator is neither bound by time nor space, therefore the names are uttered as they truly were, in a language that is lexically, syntactically, phonemically, and semantically older than the oldest recorded writing. In fact, that writing appears to have been a simplified version of it. Not only that, but it would be the equivalent of the greatest works of any particular language all appearing in one book, in a perfect script and in the highest form the language could ever take. It is so high in fact, that it had yet to be surpassed despite the fact that over the last millennium the collection of Arabic manuscripts when compared on word-per-word basis in Western Museums alone, when they are compared with the collected Greek and Latin manuscripts combined, the latter does not constitute 1 percent of the former as per German professor Frank Griffel, in addition all in a script that had never been recorded before. Thus, the enlightenment of mankind from barbarism and savagery began, and the age of reason and rationality was born from its study. God did bring down the Qur’an, Mohamed is his Messenger.

[@mznxbcv12345]

Very enlightening detailed work

[@ranro7371]

Schlözer in his preparation for the Arabia expedition in 1781 coined the term Semitic language: "From the Mediterranean to the Euphrates, from Mesopotamia to Arabia ruled one language, as is well known. Thus Syrians, Babylonians, Hebrews, and Arabs were one people (ein Volk). Phoenicians (Hamites) also spoke this language, which I would like to call the Semitic (die Semitische)." -Before Boas: The Genesis of Ethnography and Ethnology in the German By Han F. Vermeulen He was only half right though, Arabic is the only corollary to "proto-semitic", infact the whole semitic classification is nonsensical for anyone with a somewhat functioning mass between their ears. hebrew, aramaic, rest of madeup dialect continua only have 22 letters of the 29 protosemitic letters Arabic has all 29. The difference betweeen Arabic and the other creoles and Pidgin is the same as that between Latin and pig latin or italian. |Classical Arabic | 28 consonants, 29 with Hamza and 6 vowels; some consonants are emphatic or pharyngealized; some vowels are marked with diacritics | Complex system of word formation based on roots and patterns; roots are sequences of consonants that carry the basic meaning of a word; patterns are sequences of vowels and affixes that modify the meaning and function of a word | Flexible word order, but VSO is most common; SVO is also possible; subject and object are marked by case endings (-u for nominative, -a for accusative, -i for genitive); verb agrees with subject in person, number, and gender; verb has different forms for different moods and aspects | | Akkadian | 22 consonants and 3 vowels; some consonants are glottalized or palatalized; vowels are not marked | Similar system, but with different roots and patterns; some roots have more than three consonants; some patterns have infixes or reduplication | Fixed word order of SVO; subject and object are not marked by case endings, but by prepositions or word order; verb agrees with subject in person, number, and gender; verb has different forms for different tenses and aspects | | Aramaic | 22 consonants and 3 vowels (later variants have more); no emphatic or pharyngealized consonants (except in some dialects); vowels are not marked (except in later variants such as Syriac) | Simple system of word formation based on prefixes and suffixes; some roots or patterns exist, but are less productive than in Arabic or Akkadian | The reason why 'salam' is reduced to 'shalam' or 'shalom' in Aramaic and Hebrew is because they lost the distinction between S and SH (س , ش) "Semitic" is just mumbled Arabic, really. Imagine English with a third of its letters removed and simplified grammar. That's Aramaic, Hebrew, etc. For example, combine T and D into just T; there's no need to have 2 letters. The same goes for i, e, y - they should all be just y from now on, etc., etc. Arabic is the only corollary to proto-Semitic. In fact, the whole classification of Semitic languages is nonsensical for anyone with a somewhat functioning brain. Hebrew, Aramaic, and the rest of these made-up dialect continua only have 22 letters out of the 29 proto-Semitic letters. Arabic has all 29. The difference between Arabic and the other creoles and Pidgin is the same as the difference between Latin and pig Latin or Italian. "Phoenician" is an Arabic dialect continuum, and not only that, it is pidgin. It is simplified to the point of stupidity. Anyone with a basic knowledge of Arabic would see this clearly. What happened was that Arabic handicapped "scholars" saw the equivalent of Scottish Twitter spelling, with added mumbling due to phonemic mergers (22 letters, not 29), and mistakenly thought they were seeing a different language." Let's start with a simple sentence: ## The house is big Arabic: البيتُ كبيرٌ al-bayt-u kabīr-un Proto-Semitic: *ʔal-bayt-u kabīr-u Hebrew: הבית גדול ha-bayit gadol Akkadian: bītum rabûm Amharic: ቤቱ ገደሉ betu gedelu As can be seen, Arabic and Proto-Semitic have the same word order (noun-adjective), the same definite article (al-), and the same case endings (-u for nominative). Hebrew and Akkadian have lost the case endings and changed the definite article (ha- and -um respectively). Amharic has changed the word order (adjective-noun) and the definite article (u-). But Arabic is not only similar to Proto-Semitic, it is also pre-Semitic, meaning that it is the original form of Semitic before it split into different branches. This is because Arabic preserves many features that are not found in any other Semitic language, but are found in other Afro-Asiatic languages, such as Egyptian and Berber. These features include: - The definite article al-, which is derived from the demonstrative pronoun *ʔal- 'that'. This article is unique to Arabic among Semitic languages, but it is similar to the article n- in Berber and the article p-, t-, n- in Egyptian. - The dual number for nouns and verbs, which is marked by the suffix -ān or -ayn. This number is rare in other Semitic languages, but it is common in other Afro-Asiatic languages, such as Egyptian and Berber. - The imperfective prefix t- for verbs, which indicates the second person singular feminine or third person plural feminine. This prefix is unique to Arabic among Semitic languages, but it is similar to the prefix t- in Berber and Egyptian. - The passive voice for verbs, which is marked by the infix t between the first and second root consonants. This voice is unique to Arabic among Semitic languages, but it is similar to the passive voice in Egyptian and Berber. Finally, a more complex sentence: The letter was written with a pen. Arabic: كُتِبَتِ الرِّسَالَةُ بِالقَلَمِ kutiba-t al-risāla-t-u bi-l-qalam-i Proto-Semitic: *kutiba-t ʔal-risāla-t-u bi-l-qalam-i Hebrew: המכתב נכתב בעט ha-michtav niktav ba-et Akkadian: šipram šapāru bēlum Egyptian: sḏm.n.f p-ẖry m rnp.t Berber: tturra-t tibratin s uccen Here, Arabic and Proto-Semitic have the same word order (verb-subject-object), the same passive voice marker (-t-), the same definite article (al-), and the same preposition (bi-). Hebrew has changed the word order (subject-verb-object), lost the passive voice marker, changed the definite article (ha-) and the preposition (ba-). Akkadian has changed the word order (object-subject-verb), lost the passive voice marker, changed the definite article (-um) and the preposition (bēlum). Now how is it that the Qur'an came thousands of years in a language that is lexically, syntactically, phonemically, and semantically older than the oldest recorded writing? Now how is it that the Qur'an came thousands of years later in an alphabet that had never been recorded before, and in the highest form the language had ever taken? God did bring down the Qur’an, Mohamed is his Messenger.

[@ARRusulOneMessage]

EXcellent

[@MichaelJahckson]

Whre i can finde the full video ?

[@user-ks4rf9us2u]

How do I find the full documentary?

[@nickmansfield1]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y4aznaKAjJWCpZY

[@zerinsahman7589]

what is the name of the full documentary?

[@Ayman-mt5sy]

the original vd plz

[@almazchati4178]

Certainly they are semitic languages, and most likely they were closer to each other when Quran was revealed. Many words may be common or sound similar. The problem may be that Quran uses the Aramaic version of a word, not the Arabic, at a few versus. Since it makes a distinction for the usage of words, any other Aramaic interpretation of similar words must be excluded. It is written inArabic.

[@ProgressiveLiberty]

What’s the full documentary this is from?

[@user-cjl3bjc0cms8]

I don't know which documentary this clip is from, however, the channel "Thomas Alexander" is a follow-up. He is working on this project and provides updates and explanations in English.

[@Portubella12458]

This is great....Where can I find more?!!! I'm talking full documentaries here!!! It would be wonderful if more people could be as open-minded...

[@BryceGirdner]

Take the time to read his book.

[@user-cjl3bjc0cms8]

Go to the channel "Thomas Alexander" he is working on this project and provides updates and explanations in English. There's also a documentary "Has Modern Archaeology Changed The History Of Islam? The Sacred City" that is revealing.

[@ares9748]

Could i get the full documentary please

[@whateverbabe]

Read the book. You will find it the website of zlibrary, I'm currently reading it.

[@Mrbrainiac]

where i can get the whole documentary ?

[@rabi78jallo]

Buy the book

[@Mrbrainiac]

@@rabi78jallo What book?

[@Mrbrainiac]

@@rabi78jallo What book?

[@rabi78jallo]

The Syro regarding of the Quran

[@nickmansfield1]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y4aznaKAjJWCpZY

[@adalarddeutschland1294]

where is the full documentary?

[@nickmansfield1]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y4aznaKAjJWCpZY

[@logitech4410]

very good Luxenberg

[@williamkey4165]

The dark passages are in fact Christian lectionaries, and is stated so in the book, it is proof of a Christian proto-Quran from which a large portion of the Arabic Quran was taken. Using the same techniques for instance a lot of the poems are in fact Christian Hymns. The seems to have been a heretical Christian sect from which Islam seems to have risen, one in which Christ is not divine. Mecca, after all at that time if it existed at all, was a small village and was not a center of anything. Fake place, fake man, fake book. A created lie, there is no truth there.

[@ssifr3331]

If you add/change dots of course it's gonna be different letter and result different meanings. Kha, ha', and jim, the only difference is 1 dot. And ba, ta, tsa, ya, and nun, they are very similar in writing and the difference is in the dot.

[@Wise__guy]

Arabic used to be written with no dots. Dots and markings have been added during the time of compiling the Quran, in order to remove ambiguity and preserve the way people orally recite the Quran.

[@darklightraven]

this is what it says in arabic if we translate it: purified spouses. AZWAJAN MUTTAHARAH, which means litterally purified spouses.

[@Ebuverthebicepcurler]

Whats so hard with thinking some of the words are Syro-Aramaic? Is that so god damn hard to accept? Religion does not seem to enjoy logic.

[@miovicdina7706]

It seems that the Quran was actually a CHRISTIAN book. A brief summary of Jewish Mishna laws and Christian beliefs, loosely translated into Arabic, re-told and abbreviated, for the potential new Arabian peninsula conversts from paganism.

[@nickmansfield1]

Definitely moreso than what they tell you, just as The Torah and Evangel are more muslim.

[@miovicdina7706]

@@nickmansfield1 Ahahahaaa, you have GOT to be kidding me 😂 3000 years Torah and 2000 years old Evangil can, by definition, NOT have anything of the 1400 years old Quran. The influence doesn't work backwards in time. It's like saying "Mozart was influenced by the Beatles just as much the Beatles were influenced by Mozart." Nah, bro. Only Mozart could influence the Beatles.

[@nickmansfield1]

@@miovicdina7706 So you are unaware of the names Ahmad and Mohamad encoded in Deut.18:18, 33:2 respectively? Moreover have you examined the meaning of the word muslim in Isaiah through Job as Yeshua ben Miriam elucidated in Matthew? I am currently active on f/bk as admin for the group: Understanding The Qur'an From A Judeo-Christian Perspective. My most recent post has covered Deut.33:2 which encodes both Mohamad and Moshe, both of whom delivered a fiery judgment on faith; one to bani Israel, one to the nations.

[@moroccanthinker-li8my]

@@miovicdina7706 also even the book of judaism comes from older religions of the region like summeria in Iraq etc the story of noah and moise etc match the stories of old kings of sumer and the thousands tablets of sumer civilisation discovered recently showed us that all the three big religions are a joke and just a copy past of the legends of the region of iraq and iran etc...

[@sidprice6214]

The Quran never was nor ever will be a Christian creation. That is only what you tell yourself to hide the fact that there are no Aramaic or Syriac manuscripts among the 5500 Greek manuscripts of the New Testament. One or 2 verses from the Quran are sufficient to prove this let alone the historical record which your ilk always wants to tamper with. So grow up and face facts, not everything in this world came from Christians.

[@MuhammadFaiz-zr1np]

I would like to Try Recite it

[@rainer1980]

If there's a Christian bias in symbolism that the author uses to re-interpret some of these Koranic passages, some would argue that Jesus wasn't trying to start a new religion, but that he was trying to reform Judaism, and give the Jews a refresher course, like saying "love thy enemies," vs. "love thy neighbors" in the old testament; their neighbors were often their enemies too. Jesus even says himself, "I didn't come to abolish the laws of the prophets. I cam to fulfill them." The Romans did a makeover of "Christianity," sanitizing it of it's Jewish origins... Romans: What? You're telling me if I believe in Jesus we can't eat pork? We can't have wine a certain way? Do you know what that will do to our economy? We conquered the Jews. How would it look if we practice a religion of a people we conquered? No. We have to say it's a different religion, and say the Jews didn't accept it, so we can still oppress them, and not believe like them. I did actually hear from an Iranian secular professor I had in Islamic studies talk about the mistranslation really meaning "You get 72 grapes" as opposed to 72 virgins. Specifically, the Koran uses an Aramaic loanword "herr," which refers to a variety of white grapes. In Exodus 14:19-21 God has 72 names, so maybe it's really a metaphor: eat a grape, reflect/"meditate" on each name of God for each grape. Once you've gone through them all then maybe you know God in his entirety.

[@javiqbal4023]

There is no mention 72 virgins in the quran.

[@Eopyk]

Aramaic hade a great influence on Arabic especialy Syriac that is easterm Aramaic.

[@joahua122]

nah is not

[@peterstill3760]

I love it when a detailed work is commented by people who argue that the text does not matter because it is subject to interpretations. Even better when it is relegated to European orientalism .

[@chercheacomprendre8088]

peter still they always hit with not so convincing arguments it’s just insane how much the Islamic scholars and the Muslim world is stubborn towards the flaws and contradictions of the Koran

[@darklightraven]

there is no where in the Quran the mention of 72 vergins, what are these people talking about, and as he said hor el aïn if you change the dot it would mean something else, well i wrote it down tried all the possible ways to put the dot and it was gibrish, nothing to do with what he said, this is a scam , that's all i can say

[@kennorton1478]

Ajmal masroor says here: German studies of Quran is very Christian centric as far as I'm concerned! Well, Quran itself is highly Christian & Jewish centric as far as quran is concerned, here is how: - Jesus makes 25 appearances in the quran. - Mary mother of Jesus makes 34 appearances in the Quran. - Moses makes staggering 136 appearances in the Quran. - while " Mohammed's" name mentioned as little as 4 times only in the Quran! Does that sound like far from Christian and Jewish centricity?! Furthermore, as a correction of Masroor's statement; they were no Arabic dictionaries existed at the time of the prophet , first arabic dictionary created some 200 years after the time of the prophet لسان العرب ,the tongue of Arabs by ibn mandhoor.

[@sugerdrops]

well this is intresting well islam quran encourage reaserch and study yet we should after studying testing then we can find a conclusion good job \

[@Eopyk]

Also his book is from 2007 not that old.

[@davidd2053]

The teacher of Muhammad was an Assyrian named Sergius Bahira who was a Christian (Nestorian) monk. Sergius or sargis is a very common name in the Assyrian community which comes from the Ancient Assyrian King Sargon.

[@Thor-Orion]

Everyone seems to overlook the Manichaean influences in the 7th century Syriac speaking world. I firmly believe this is the missing link in the chain, Mani was born into a Jewish-Christian Gnostic sect and then traveled east and learned about Buddhism, which along with the Zoroastrian influences all around him as he grew up in the Sassanid empire and was born in Ctesiphon, laid the foundations for the theology that would come to be called Manichaeism, he wrote 6/7 works in Syriac, and he called himself the seal of the prophets and the next in line after Zarathustra, Buddha and Jesus. The coins from the time period are very telling, some feature the blended imagery of Zoroastrianism, Christianity and Buddhism, and when I see that I immediately think of Mani.

[@user-cjl3bjc0cms8]

That's fascinating. You might want to go over to the channel "Thomas Alexander" and inform him of this information. He is providing updates on current scholarship in Germany on the Syro-Aramaic early documents and versions of the Quran.

[@husaamsaif]

Any description dedicated to a character is fit to that character only. So describing God with any adjective is only dedicated to his incomparable character not to ours. So, When you say God is good, it's not like saying Sam is good. God's goodness belongs to his incomparable character only and so on.

[@cigitur]

Aramaic Reading of the Quran

[@eatingeatingeating]

Does anybody know if Puin has actually provided any alternative readings to the presently understood manner in which it is read. Luxemburg talks about being married to grapes in paradise - which doesn't sound right and so let us completely ignore Luxemburg's efforts as unscholarly and illogical. Now - can we have examples from Puin??????

[@user-cjl3bjc0cms8]

That's not what Luxenberg said. Unfortunately you've confused the various passages.

[@pantheroleoleo536]

As far as the earliest stages of Syriac grammar is concerned, our information about it is scarce. Most of what we know about the terminology of the early Syriac grammarians (e.g., Jacob of Edessa) is derived from the reports in the later writers, such as Bar Hebraeus [d. 1286 CE], and it is likely that their terminology reflects Arabic influence rather than a genuinely indigenous development. Versteegh says: Unfortunately, we do not know very much about the earliest attempts of the Syrians in grammar and reading, in the sixth and seventh centuries. Most of what we know is derived from later Syriac writings, which were, however, composed at a time when the Syriac tradition had undergone the influence of Arabic grammar, and had taken over most of the conceptual and terminological apparatus of that tradition. As a matter of fact, both Syriac and Hebrew grammatical terminology, as we know it, are a calque of the Arabic terminology. Unfortunately for Mingana and Luxenberg, their assumptions of Syriac orthographical and grammatical influences on Arabic fall flat on their faces. LOLZ !!

[@G33KN3rd]

+In Lulz We Trust I natively speak Syriac-Aramaic. Aziz Salih is simply not putting 2 and 2 together... Syriac is older than Arabic, if there was any lingual contact, it would mean that Syriac would be influencing Arabic alot more than Arabic influencing Syriac. Arabic uses a modified version of the Syriac alphabet and even uses Syriac loanwords. How would Arabic become more advanced than Syriac considering that Syriac was born from a more advanced population that lived in an advanced civilization that was incubated from Mesopotamian, Persian, and Greek knowledge while Arabs only had so and so knowledge from Greeks, Persians, and Romans?

[@fobbyjose7161]

The Kandahar Edict of Ashoka dated to 270 BC attests to the age and spread of Aramaic . The Aramaic part of this bilingual edict is found to be of a higher standard grammatically than the Greek part of the same edict even though the Greeks had conquered the region half a century ago and were still politically powerful. No vestige of Arabic is to be found in this time period or before in these parts.

[@fobbyjose7161]

Koran 16:66 in Arabic waxes eloquent about milk supplied by the male of the species ! It is proof of the translater suffering from translation fatigue slipping into the easier word by word translation instead of considering the verse as a whole. If the contents were originally expressed in Arabic there is no chance of such an error occuring .

[@samuelmorales2344]

The Quran was finished post 7th century and developed in the areas of the Levant and Mesopotamia. One reason why Muslims don't understand the Quran in that it has no context is because the Arabs took Christian lectionaries and liturgies to make scripture. To understand Quran, you actually need to be Christian who knew the lingua franca of the time. In addition, the Quran contains Jewish and Christian apocrypha. Islam came later and became what it is a couple of centuries when the Arabs found a consensus on the story of their prophet which originally was Jesus. Just like Christians, they must profess faith in God and the prophet. What is strange is Muhammad of Islam is just a man while Jesus is a god. Why would you profess faith in a man? When Islam was developing it's conduct for the people, that is when you start to see science decline, and philosophers going into exile. This points to a clearly man-made religion that was removing things to accommodate a new religion created under the order of the caliphs. The people who would become Muslims were actually part of the Byzantine and Sassanian Empires. When the Byzantines defeated the Persians, they retreated, and left the regions in the Levant unoccupied and the Arabs took over as a de-facto client state paying tribute to the Byzantines. Eventually the Arabs would defy their former rulers and create their own identity. Many things, including cultural customs such as women wearing veils over their body and faces existed in Christian communities in Himyar, present-day Yemen, and within Byzantium itself. Islam surely comes from Christianity as a fabrication. There is plenty of evidence where Islam really comes from with many dots to connect.

[@ykn9240]

@@samuelmorales2344 nice speculations 1400years after the event

[@GodsSeer]

@januk36 , Science rules? Then why is it always changing in its ideas?

[@musessadi1032]

Science is nothing more than believing that the past will repeat itself in the future science don't provide answers

[@user-cjl3bjc0cms8]

Science is the act of constantly learning more. As we learn more we must change with the added information. Science is a process of discovery that never ends -- it is eternal.

[@ryanlogic]

surely any handwritten qur'an in the past would have been cross referenced orally. And even of one was mis-dotted it would not have been able to change the meanings or the sounds of the actual quran. in short, the Qur'an was written after it was memorized by thousands of people who all memorized exactly the same thing. It was and still is passed down orally, so it is impossible to assume that and incorrectly written words could have changed the oral tradition itself.

[@comentedonakeyboard]

Modern German has the word "Tohuwabohu" meaning Chaos. However if i read the Luther Bible i would have to read the Hebrew meaning of void and empty. The reason is that Luther introduced the word in his Bible Translation (having problems like beeing in hiding and the most wanted) and then Germans read an entire new meaning into it. So perhaps something similar happened with early Arabic.

[@messianicrogue]

@VipericVampire "I'm a Sunni Muslim. I do not see any logic in Shi'ite Islam and all other forms of Islam" The sad thing with religion is that even in groups that profess, by and large, the same knowledge, rituals, beliefs - there is this division and elitism that is seemingly inevitable. All religions seem to deliberately set themselves up for conflict by forming sects that denounce others sects for slight variation in practice or interpretation.

[@TheLatiosnlatias02]

Ahmadiyya, Nation of Islam, Mahdavia aren't counted as Islam

[@logitech4410]

quelqu'un pourrait me traduire cette vidéo en français ?

[@user-of8jd8pu7s]

Go learn english you french basta*rd

[@kenmcclellan]

At 4:25, you have something important. Actually, both versions are probably accurate. There will be pole shift and there will be great fissures in the Earth due to earthquakes.

[@nickmansfield1]

In the Hebrew Bible one should often read things 2 ways or more when a single letter change solves a problem, etc. Judaism also speaks of 7 ways to read Ha-Torah.

[@radwanabu-issa4350]

I think this kind of videos will invite more people to look into the Quran and make their own understanding because everyone is ultimately responsible of him/herself and nobody else can save or damn him/her!

[@bijosn]

dumbo

[@Portubella12458]

I won't be converting just yet there's still alot I need to learn first and if it IS the only method of salvation then i hope many others are saved too. But I thank you all the same. Peace : )

[@ashleytheseeker8480]

Don't. There is no salvation in al islam. We're taught we have a higher chance going to jahannam than jannah.

[@MilesianPaul]

@@ashleytheseeker8480its about truth not certainty, christianity fails because its followers can sin all they want because they have "jesus"

[@ashleytheseeker8480]

@paulmccollum there is no salvation. God hasn't torn the sky apart to tell its truth, itself. Its time to grow up, respectively.

[@Wise__guy]

@@ashleytheseeker8480 again please understand that it’s about TRUTH. It doesn’t matter what a religion teaches, what matters is if it’s is from God or Man made. I’ll pick the one that has more evidence that it’s from God.

[@ashleytheseeker8480]

@Wise__guy god is mighty quiet when it comes to which of the 1000s of religions he wants us all to follow.

[@VipericVampire]

@truthhitmanisback Lol, when I said independant, I meant that you do not identify yourself with a particular faith, just like when you call someone politically independant when they do not identify themselves with a party.

[@igorvova9555]

The old language, scripture are three kind, it is ( Arabic, Aramaic, Hebrew)

[@VipericVampire]

@truthhitmanisback It was not sent to Abraham. Difficult to explain. Gabriel told Abraham to go build the Ka'aba and it was there. Go on Wikipedia, read the article about the "Black Stone", History and tradition, second paragraph. The text is too long to include here.

[@ClearLight369]

Modern Aramaic can also be heard in remote areas like the Chicago suburbs.......

[@anonymousunknown1085]

Assumption 1: The region of Mecca at the time of revelation (approximately 1400 years ago) was an initial Aramaic settlement. Counter Argument: There is an absence of historical Syriac-Christian works prevalent in Mecca at that period. Assumption 2: The language of the Meccans was a hybrid language of Arabic and Syriac. Counter Argument: No manuscript evidence or 5th /6th century inscriptions indicate this. Assumption 3: No presence of an Arab oral tradition and culture. Counter Argument 3: Historical information indicates that there was an adequate and thorough transmission of an oral culture. Assumption 4: The Arabs during the Prophet’s time forgot the Syriac language and lapsed into what is now known as classical Arabic. Counter Argument 4: This would entail that a mass loss of memory had plagued the Arabs during that time. Assumption 5: The Prophet could read and write fluently (knowing many dialects). Counter Argument 5: An assumption (or speculation) that is no stronger than the argument (or assumption) that he was illiterate. Assumption 6: Various scribes wrote the Qur’an from the Meccan hybrid (‘mutant’) language. Counter Argument 6: No analysis given that indicates different influences and linguistic sensitivities that arise out of multiple authors. Assumption 7: Employment of an exclusively philological approach. Counter Argument 7: This enables freedom to stretch interpretations as well as emend the Qur’anic text in order to make it correspond to the desired Syro-Aramaic texts. Even though that Luxenberg’s study is based upon weak assumptions he attempts to substantiate his conspiratorial claims by re-interpreting single words in the Qur’an by using corresponding Aramaic words. As a result of finding similarities in words - which can be done with all the Semitic languages - he concludes that the Qur’anic text must then be borrowed from Syro-Aramaic Christian texts. This is equivilant of saying that Shakespeare was originally Homers work because many English words have Greek origins! Marrying ‘White Grapes’! Luxenberg’s re-interpretation of the word for “hur”, meaning ‘chaste beautiful girls’ in Arabic exposes his fundamentally flawed approach to studying the Qur’an. In Aramaic “hur” means ‘white’ or ‘white grapes’ however Qur’anic commentators say that “hur” is the plural of the Arabic word “houri”’ meaning ‘chaste and beautiful girl’. The word “hur” occurs in the Quran 4 times at 44:54, 52:20, 55:72 and 56:22. At each of these places the word “hur” is mentioned the context of marriage and paradise. For example in 44:54, “…and We shall marry them with hur, having attractively wide eyes” And at 55:72, “They are hur, guarded in pavilions” If anyone was to take Luxenberg’s view that this word means ‘white’ or ‘white grapes’, how could anyone fit this re-interpretation of the word in the Qur’anic context? Have you known or seen anyone marry ‘white grapes’ before? How can Luxenberg show the link between the Qur’an and a supposedly Syro-Aramaic text when only one word has been provided as a link and the context of the verse and its literary structure have been ignored? There are many more examples that demonstrate Luxenberg’s insistence that the Qur’an must be a manipulated text whose origins are a variety of Syro-Aramaic Christian sources. This persistence has blinded Luxemberg’s academic judgement as the Syro-Aramaic texts he accuses the Qura’n of ‘borrowing’ from are in fact post Quranic (dated after the written text of the Qur’an!). So what came first? The Qur’an or the text that is supposedly borrowed by the Qur’an, but yet emerged after the Qur’an? Confused? I don’t blame you. Just by discussing Luxenberg’s assumptions and the above example he uses, it can be easily pointed out that the evidence he provides is based upon weak assumptions and lacks historical evidence.

[@user-cjl3bjc0cms8]

except that you are mistaken. For one thing The Prophet Muhammad pbuh, did not grow up in nor live in Mecca, as was originally thought. The place he grew up in and lived was Becca. A mistake was made in the transmission of the name of the location. See the documentary "Has Modern Archaeology Changed The History Of Islam? The Sacred City" The original name of the documentary was "The Sacred City."

[@yroy4457]

Now think of those muslim who thought they would get 72 hoor instead they get 72 raisin

[@dap6339]

The Prophet, PBUH, to whom the Qur'an came down, is an arab. His companions are also arabs. The communities in mecca and medina, where the prophet initially spreaded the religion are arabs. So it makes sense that the Qur'an will contain mainly arabic vocabularies. Some foreign words will of course be found in the Qur'an, as also happen in any languages in this world. But to interpret any qur'an readings, people should merely rely on the two internal sources of islamic teachings, those are, the Qur'an itself and the hadiths. Any interpretation outside those two will lead to misunderstanding and false knowledge.

[@knockoutfever4]

Muhammads’ crew likely copied from Ephraim the Syrian’s writings to create the Quran.

[@dannysalinas947]

But I thought Arabic was the language of heaven? 🤔

[@user-cjl3bjc0cms8]

But Mecca is NOT, after all where Muhammad (PBUH) had lived. Have you not seen the recent scholarship on this, which reveals the actual location where he grew up? WATCH the documentary "Has Modern Archaeology Changed The History Of Islam? The Sacred City" The Prophet, PBUH, grew up in and lived in Becca, not Mecca. It was originally written "Becca" And someone changed the way the location was written. Archaeology in the current location of Mecca shows there is nothing there before the 8th Century.

[@Eopyk]

Some people like Mr Grand Dragon thinks declaring something debunked means it is. I have seen similear arguments in more recent works. We know that Western Aramaic that is Syriac hade a great influence on the arabs.

[@VipericVampire]

@truthhitmanisback I am an Arab. In Arabic, we call Baal (the Phoenician God) as Ba'al. I don't know from where you think we call God Baal.

[@mrdaudouchiha47]

ba'al is husband in Hebrew. mean Polyteism of Filistion old time use stone as god call ba'al mean husband for closed between wife and husband.

[@nickmansfield1]

@@mrdaudouchiha47 That just means lord by interpretation.

[@nickmansfield1]

Maybe: Coming-god.

[@Portubella12458]

Bingo. Unfortunately many people from many other religions in the past and present have done and continue to do this. That's why it's our job to have a brain!!!

[@harrylime8077]

Ok, I admit it, I wrote the text. I did it as a college prank!! Everyone sit down, calm down and have a margarita!!

[@Kielimies]

_Aslama/muslim_ ( verbal noun _islaam_ ) is the Arabic cognate of the Aramaic verb _ašlem/mašlem_ "hand over, betray" (the verb in Luke 22 verse 48 in the Syro-Aramaic NT). #themoreyouknow

[@nickmansfield1]

Last time I checked Luke wrote in highly proficient Greek. Moreover the Tanakh clearly defines muslim in Hebrew and this is confirmed in the Evangel.

[@Kielimies]

@@nickmansfield1 Nothing comes from bringing the Greek translation into this, as I was talking about the Syro-Aramaic translation of the New Testament (NT) a.k.a. the Peshitta. I was unaware that the Tanakh contains "Hebrew definitions" of Arabic active participles like _muslim_ . You are going to have to tell us what kind of a "definition" you are talking about here and what you are trying to prove.

[@nickmansfield1]

@@Kielimies What then is the relevance of the Peshitta to the NT Gospel? Others who have examined a case for Pesh. primacy have concluded, there is none, so that is your fallacy given their case is strong. My case was succinctly made insomuch as Luke was Greek and highly proficient in Greek so his Gospel was written in Greek. If you are making your case from somebody else's claim, how do you know they are correct? Even if they are correct then the Aramaic would be totally contrary to the Hebrew and Arabic. Yeshua ben Miriam was an expert in Hebrew so I cannot see any case for him having spoken Aramaic words which clearly contradict the Biblical message of the Tanakh. Another issue is that you seem to be identifying Arabic grammar with Hebrew grammar. I am no expert on grammar but I believe that they are quite different languages in terms of grammar although they share many common words, taghut for instance. The prophets of the Tanakh and Yeshua ben Miriam himself certainly wrote/spoke about Mohammad and Islam. You require a case to prove that the definition from former prophets matches that of the modern adherents to Islam, or otherwise. If you are prepared to criticise me then you need to examine the usage of the word muslim in the Tanakh in the first instance. Moreover this video is all about examining ancient scripture from a technical perspective rather than traditions. Thank you.

[@vivimolina3320]

The Syro-Aramaic Reading of the Koran: A Contribution to decipher the language of the Koran

[@tariqkamal6141]

I did master in islamic history, Also did research for proof, In history of Islam , first Qur'an was written on animals bones, skin and wooden slap, also some on stones which was on prominent places like macca ,madina, At 1 kalif abu baker ,he collects all Qur'an in one book, At 3 kalif Usman again Qur'an collect due to damage of only copy first Qur'an,by using all people who memorized it,6 copy were made and send to all 6 States, Later people make copies just for memorization,with no dots, with no helping verb, people using this method still today , Islamic history tells us about how extremest were Muslims, they didn't like it ,to change it to others languages, others meaning,not even a single dot, Nobody can proof if anything changed,or same , History also tells us 7 different Arabic dialog Qur'an, people also mixed them and makes 47 different qirat,

[@lushu3943]

Aside some few academics, most people don't care if Quran was preserved, because they already know that it is not authentic from its composition, that is the most shocking and little is talk about it, the blatant plagiarism. Keep in mind that the Quran has a legend from a popular novel about Alexander the Great, also about many content in circulation during the time.

[@ashleytheseeker8480]

I learned that there was 10 different qirat. But you said is what's told to us. There's a difference between actual archeology and what's been repeated to us in our Islamic classes. Who's to say 1000 years in the future that ppl will even find anything for Islamic archeology when the Saudis claim they are destroying ao many historical sites to "prevent shirk"

[@randomuser6306]

That's the standard narrative but that's been torn to shreds over the past 20 years

[@nickmansfield1]

@@ashleytheseeker8480 In Kabbalah the #s 7 and 10 are important, just like Daniel and Revelation - the Roman Beast.

[@afifkhaja]

Luxemburg's Quran only shows what the Quran would have meant had it been written in Syrio Aramaic. The Quran was written in Arabic so it should be understood based on what it means in Arabic, not in Syrio Aramaic

[@AymaneSabbane]

If read in arabic some parts of it will then have no sense...

[@watchyourmouth8232]

@@AymaneSabbane which verse?thats why we have ulama..they learn and discuss,later they decide the meaning of the Quran..

[@edward1412]

@@watchyourmouth8232 Thus, they have to find new meanings to words that don’t make sense in the Quran.

[@almazchati4178]

You should try other languages as well. French is quite sonorous language. A French monk may have traveled to Arabia in search of Jesus and Moses, and may have met with Mohammad. How ebout a french reading?

[@dennisdabney1091]

Jeremiah ch16v19

[@VipericVampire]

@messianicrogue YOU are the one who is missing the point. I can not be an elitist, since my religion forbids me from doing so (it's called the sin of pride). I love how you just took what I said about Christians and Jews and make it look like I was insulting them.

[@GodsSeer]

@januk36 , In 1Co 15:41 There is one glory of the sun, another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars; for one star differs from another star in glory. We JUST recently found that the planets all have a different substance and not all are the same elements, which disproves the big bang theory.

[@riyadhf1rdausehh]

PfanderFilms brought me here

[@jehdmahdi5959]

common mr luxenburg, at least when you translate something in the Qur'an when you thought you did hit the jack pot, at least check if other verses in the Qur'an negate your conclusion or not! As for 'huris' for example, there is mention of them straight after mentioning grapes in surah Al-Naba' verses 32,33 ..also there are cases when arabic, hebrew or syriac might have the same word but with different meanings .. thanks

[@Eopyk]

Really I find it in recent sources the same arguments we know that classical arabic was extremly influenced by Syriac and that the Syrian christianity influenced the Arabian peninsula.

[@husaamsaif]

Rapid evolution!!! Who said that? And you lied and said that scientists agree with your conclusion about languages. Can you name your reference? Scientists only have speculations not vivid evidence. Do you know the difference? I am not asking you to teach me Mr. I am showing others in this page the difference between you and me.

[@leedza]

The Imam at 7:15 cracks me up. When it's inconvenient the Bible and Qur'an are not the same. When it suits them My God is your God. Given the amount of borrowed theology from the bible and apocrypha. It's fair that the Qur'an is measured against the bible. Also given how much of the Qur'an relies on Hadith to understand the context, scholars need to understand the Qur'an without a Islamic lens.

[@TheSaffyone]

@BurnAllLiberals Is marry peace be upon her, the mother of God or the mother of the son of God?

[@TheLatiosnlatias02]

She is the mother of Jesus (peace be upon him) and there is no "son of God".

[@laszl045]

9:29 I applaud this man for his open mindedness, there is nothing offensive about this study, watch the video before rating it down at least, also learn to turn the other cheek, do not be mindless in your actions, Islam doesn't need mass rallies defending its messenger Muhammad or does it?

[@VipericVampire]

@messianicrogue I did read your comment. How else could I have responded to it? Anyway. I am ending this conversation. You are ludicrous for judging me like you do, without looking at this from the Islamic perspective. This is not about elitism. Get that through that little hot-aired head of yours, "messianicrogue" (lol). And have a nice day.

[@nibzlegend99]

Did any body translate the Quran from the Aramaic ??

[@joahua122]

bro is not

[@nibzlegend99]

@@joahua122 what:?

[@joahua122]

@@nibzlegend99 al quran came from arabic not aramaic is just conspiracy theory as an arab atheits i am sick of that also what written is in hijazi arabic script not aramaic script

[@nibzlegend99]

@@joahua122 Hello fellow arab atheist. Quran is essentially first known written arabic. It was dotted many years after it was written. The undotted arabic that's in it is aramaic based.

[@joahua122]

@@nibzlegend99 you are wrong arab never write with harakah until islam reach central Asia those people can't read without harakah idiot, and this script is called hijazi script it don't come from Aramaic, you don't know anything my friend this pan Arameanist love to claim our history, land, culture and language they always think we steal something from them which is not we build our own city and villages all humans originated in Africa these people wanted to genocide arabs and they love to dehumanize us just look at their pages from Facebook, twitter, instagram and many more we arabs are tired

[@husaamsaif]

Nixon's page 199:" While Europe languished in the Middle Ages, the Islamic civilization enjoyed its golden age. The Muslim world made enormous contributions to science, medicine, and philosophy. In his book THE AGE OF FAITH, Will Durant observed that key advances in virtually all fields were achieved by Muslims in this period. Avicenna was the greatest writer on medicine, Al Razi the greatest physician, Al Biruni the greatest geographer, al Haitham the greatest optician...

[@sebassanchezc-1379]

But after that nothing else. Islam is against new ways of thinking. They kill everyone who tries to develop an open minded way to see the world. Just look the number of Muslim nobel prize awarded. Islam doesn't understand secularism or freedom of religion or freedom of conscience or any human rights. Technology hasn't had an Islamic contribution in thousand years😅

[@AlexKomnenos]

Muslims tend to leave out the fact that Byzantium/Eastern Rome had preserved that knowledge and likewise the Christians of the Middle East. Most of the doctors to the early Khalifs were Syriac Christians. Muslims didn’t come up with this knowledge on their own

[@husaamsaif]

@@AlexKomnenos who developed the scientific method and who is the first to implement it?

[@darklightraven]

best comment bro

[@romandacil3984]

Interesting video and makes total sense but try telling that to a Muslim. For blending of languages look no further than the Philippines which combines multiple languages into their national language of Tagolog (English, Spanish, Tagolog and other tribal dialects)

[@romandacil3984]

@Fighting Media The significance is that it shatters the myth of perfect preservation of the Quran and the Standard Islamic Narritive of how the Quran came to be. The Arabic compiliers of the Quran had problems translating certain Syro-Aramaic words and made several errors. These errors changed the meaning and context of the passages in question. Saint Murad kzbin.info/www/bejne/aITah4aKf6eri6c can give an example of Surah 106

[@romandacil3984]

@Fighting Media It changes the meanings of what the original manuscripts meant. Which Quran are you referring to? There are 30 official Quran's and of those 10 (Readers) are from different schools. Each school had a different way to recite the Quran but they also have differences in meaning as they disagreed with each other in how it should be recited. Surah 27 verse 21. has Soloman and Sheba talking about a bird. With the Hafs Quran there is an affirmative action while in Warsh's Quran no action took place. So which is it? If you compare Hafs and Warsh there are around 5,000 diferences which change the meaning. Most of the Muslim's I know and have talked to do not know about the 30 Official Quran's. Hatun Tash was the one who brought this to the attention of ordinary Muslims and created quite a stir with "The Holes in the Narritive".

[@Wise__guy]

Ah yes I love sitting under white crystal clear grapes

[@NewBornAssyria]

This is why our enemies want make tension between Assyrians and Muslims.

[@marlinkhoshababratdeel2250]

Dr. Christopher Luxembourg, it is The truth about The interpretations of Qur’an. it is perfectly right. because the Qur’an it was written and Syriac Aramaic , because back then they tried to translate the holy Bible to different dialects, for other people that they live around that area , and they started modified the Syriac language , but when Islam ☪️ came they change a lot of the words in the book, when they did not know how to read the Qur’an, they ask Syriac people, to put the dots on the letters. In order to read and understand the Qur’an, you should ask the Syriac professor Goryal Sume ,

[@oprophetisfake9482]

It is clear that the interpreters who tried to put the Qur'an into Arabic made many errors.

[@Anonymous-sq6eo]

@@hm4084 how do you know they didn’t? Critics of Moe were killed.

[@Anonymous-sq6eo]

@@hm4084 then again, how do you know nobody did, if critics were killed?

[@VipericVampire]

@truthhitmanisback No, I don't have to go and look for proof. If you're trying to convince someone of something, do you go and tell them "find the proof yourself." When you're a prosecutor in front of a judge, do you tell him to find the proof himself? When you write an article and have to prove your thesis, do you write "Please find the proof yourselves, but it's THE TRUTH!!!111ONE!one1" No, that's not the way the world works.

[@luqmanproadminvip136]

The Quran was revealed in Quraish dialect, with few borrowed words from other languages... Why should we refer to the other language, other than Quraish dialect??? Except for those words borrowed from other language.. Just imagine, Shakespeare evaluated in French, Portuguese...

[@nickmansfield1]

English is half-French, half-Germanic.

[@carnivoreisvegan]

I thought 7 different dialects were revealed to Mohammed?

[@greatmaister3950]

y es asi como rafa magufo pal saca sus videos , lo tuyo es espercir ódio ...

[@SubmissionAndPeace]

@januk36 Islam is growing fast in United States, England, Sweeden, Russia, and etc., there are European Nations that are Muslim, like in the Balkans, Bosnia, Albania, etc., and in the Caucasus, Azerbadjan, and Chechnya, it is growing fast in China, many tribes in Russia are Muslim, All the -stans are Muslim, so it is not merely a dream. Check the growth of Islam in wikipeida.

[@assyrian2NV]

@januk36 Bsheyno/Bsheyna - Basima raba, itly raba eeqara biyookh. Peace unto you aswell - Thank you, I have alot of respect for you.

[@Nimroud]

Funny how whenever a really smart Christian person solves a mystery, there's Muslims ready to debunk him. Well, at least the guy at the end seems open-minded about it. Luxenburg, you're the man!

[@darklightraven]

well the translators can put what ever they want, that doesn't mean it's in the quran, just find the 72 virgins in the quran. and give me the reference of the verse you're talking about and i give you the verse(i'm a translator as well from finland, and translate arabic, hebrew, french and swedish to finnish, cause there are so many around that distort the quran

[@ryanlogic]

@exa0 you obviously dont understand what an oral tradition is... The quran isnt written, it is recited. traditional scholars never learned it from a book. it was only written for the masses. to this day, the quran is transmitted orally to students. its called an ijazza.

[@zzap999]

Because Arabic and Islam came later. Furthermore, you muslims don't even realize that the black stone you kiss is a shivaling. Your Kaaba has hindu incriptions in it, i.e 786("OM"). The crescent and star are actually symbols of Shiva. You muslims say it is just Byzantine, wrong! The Haj is also Hindu. Your prostrating is Hindu. Mecca is Hindu. And so is your Prophet.

[@husaamsaif]

Evolution doesn't explain the origin of languages because language is a software. Who designed and inserted that software into our system? He is the same one who inserted the information in the DNA Mr.That why great scholars like Einestine and Bohr even Hawking and Dawkins could not deny the Creator but they rejected to accept God as presented by religions. No one can blame them since theists failed to prove that the creator is the one who is worth of worship. I hope this cleans your mind.

[@davidm1904]

ok you had me and I was willing to listen but most of this is just nonsense I'm sorry

[@amins1673]

This book was written by a lebnani christain and all scholars debunked it