Mulan (2020): Disney Remakes claim another soul....

[@ackee39]

This movie is a dishonor on everybody's cows

[@disneyvillainsfan1666]

You got that right.

[@gamebawesome]

Certainly a dishonors on Disney’s Cash Cow

[@ThePorcelainMoth]

Yep

[@jackiegonzalez6814]

🐮🐄🍼🥛

[@ackee39]

@Quilo Sky If so, im genuinely happy you enjoyed it, because if you liked it, I guess this movie isn't completely worthless, eh?

[@ManWithTheCow]

Animated Mulan: Let's get down to business, to defeat the Huns! Live-Action Mulan: Let's get down to business, to defeat the Fun!

[@lyannarhodes5205]

THIS IS SUCH AN UNDERRATED COMMENT LMAO

[@floskywalker6220]

Did they write a good script, when I asked for mud?

[@cintronproductions9430]

To be hip and woke, you gotta be as OP as a joke, even if it makes you bland and uncool! Yes ma'am, I will make you, a Mary Sue!

[@lovewingdovewing]

😂

[@GrandCorsair]

This comments cleared acne.

[@noellevine8551]

To Disney, Mushu would say: DISHONOR ON YOU, DISHONOR ON YOUR CASH COW

[@lucasisofdarkness5423]

Exactly

[@willowweedsYT]

Well the cash cow turned out to be cursed since the budget was $200 million and box office $70 million, sure they will eventually make their money back, but still

[@nicoexists]

Yes

[@achilles_heelys4065]

I got that reference

[@ackee39]

Legit copy of my comment

[@disneyvillainsfan1666]

In the original Animated Film, Mulan wasn't a fighter at first, but as she trained, she progressed to a hero. It's part of what made her relatable with her struggle to find out who she is. She didn't need to be a "Chosen-One" character who was born with chi powers, and automatically a fighter, it just messes up her character.

[@bisine]

honestly a lot of the "shes good at fighting when shes young" criticisms could have been quelled if they had a scene that showed her father training her when she was young

[@cintronproductions9430]

I feel like Disney nowadays is terrible at writing live-action female main characters. Their animated female main characters are always great, like Judy Hopps, Moana and several others, but Rey, Captain Marvel and 2020 Mulan are just Mary Sues.

[@hrpang]

The original tale also has her literally be a normal woman who took her father's place. The Mulan chosen one thing is bad to the historical history too.

[@donnamitsuki281]

Even the original ballad is about her being a NORMAL WOMAN who joins the army to save her father. This is what I mean when I say a character is a Mary Sue,them being perfect or having some magic power that makes them better than anyone else. Doesn't anyone realize that other women can't relate? Like no I wasn't born perfect,if I joined the army I would have to train for years to be at the same level as everybody else

[@jiado6893]

@@cintronproductions9430 I don't get the Captain Marvel complaint at all. Carol Danvers randomly got her powers from the Tesseract, just like how Peter Parker got randomly be by a mutant spider. Or how Bruce Banner was accidently shot up with radiation. Or how Kamela Khan and other new Inhuman characters got exposed to Terrigan Mist.

[@sakuracardcaptor4709]

Mulan 2020: Doesn't save China for her family, but for the Emperor only. Mulan 1998: Values her family and will protect them at all costs.

[@enthiegavoir5955]

Kind of weird that their appeal to China involves dedication to one leader...

[@despinasgarden.4100]

@@enthiegavoir5955 China also values family a lot ... That makes the scene were she trows away her armor even worse because the armor was from her dad.

[@furimindustries3410]

By throwing away her father's armor she has brought dishonor on herself and her cow.

[@liviwaslost]

Did none of them go to a world history class? I'm still learning world history and even I know this. This shit is embarrassing.

[@fluxuous6907]

Yeah, in the original, saving China was simply a result of Mulan protecting her family, here it seems like she's just doing it to save china.

[@_yukidori_8398]

Kung Fu Panda 3 does a better job at explaining chi then Mulan does

[@DemonicRemption]

@Ya Like Jazz? So a kids' animated film did a better than this "mature live action remake?" Actually that's not surprising as hints of Kung Fu Panda having a good grasp of chi and Chinese martial arts was in the first film. Showing that Kung Fu Panda's tea did there research unlike these nimrods!!!!

[@Leftijirox]

And thats saying a LOT

[@tomasyevenes7558]

let that sink in

[@bloodcottoncandy]

@@DemonicRemption It kind of makes sense. Jack Black has been quite vocal about his interests in how rad Chinese martial arts is.

[@conic2721]

@prickly pear 3 is the worst one, but it is a really good movie. Kung Fu Panda 2 is one of my favorite movies, together with Back to the Future, Infinity War and some more.

[@kingsleycy3450]

"Empowering women means slamming down on feminine things!" If only Disney were so self aware...

[@slevinchannel7589]

Remember kids: If you use armor or any defensive strategy or even strategy at all, you're a bad person. It's neither feminine nor manly to use Armor or Strategy or anything. The only thing manly and feminine is Buckets of Water. That and Monster Trucks. YEAH! Seriously: All this reminds of 'The Last Airbender', that disaster. Why the heck do some people still cling to Netflix? Dont they know just how many people need to Greenlight something so it gets made and then airs and then stays?!? A LOT, is the Answer.

[@jeremyusreevu237]

@@slevinchannel7589 Netflix does have some good programs, like The Midnight Gospel and I Think You Should Leave, but they are not that great of a streaming service. Prime is way better.

[@carr0tkake]

​@@jeremyusreevu237 A huge part of why I like Netflix more than Prime is the interface design. Netflix's is way more intuitive and easier to navigate.

[@asalways1504]

And Twitter too

[@RedRoseSeptember22]

@Skeleton Masher Feminists rarely like anything lol.

[@artemiswolf4508]

The Mulan remake teaches us the very important lesson of “hey little girl, you can be as strong as a man” as long as you: -Have special super powers -Do everything men tell you to do -If you disobey the men, profusely apologize and allow them to kill you as punishment. -Already have the respect of another man. -Protect the same institution that opresses you to begin with. -And never trust other powerful women

[@bettyunicorn6132]

🤢🤮

[@Coconut_Prrson]

Original Mulan: "Hey little girl, you can be as strong if not stronger as a man if you.... Work hard for it and not let everything be handed into your hands"

[@misterlanious7214]

Coconut Weeb are you implying female characters need to earn all their abilities? You blasphemer! (Hard work trumps magic)

[@Coconut_Prrson]

@@misterlanious7214 wait tell me this is satire I can't tell

[@Sean-D78]

It's satire

[@metademetra]

"This is the grown up version" No it is not. The original expected a lot out of kids emotionally. This meanwhile doesn't even trust adults to understand any emotional depth.

[@jeremyusreevu237]

We don't even need a "grown up" version of things. Because even when you're an adult, you can still watch stuff like Spongebob and Good Burger. Just because you're an adult, doesn't mean you have to like adult things and nothing else. If anything, I tend to move away from darker, more adult material, and go towards light, campy schlock. Because that's who I am.

[@metademetra]

@@jeremyusreevu237 And aside from that, being brooding and dark isn't always more adult. Like nobody is gonna defend Batman v Superman because it's a "more adult superhero movie."

[@jack90054]

@@metademetra Exactly, the original Mulan is a animated kids movie, but it has extremely adult messages that can be appreciated when you looked back on it many years later (Like how it actually does feminism properly). Also, it's DARK at times, like an entire village being wiped out and everyone is hinted to be brutally massacred (including children), or Mulan being abandoned right after she saved everyone just because she's female.

[@RedRoseSeptember22]

@@jeremyusreevu237 Same :)

[@thecrabs2131]

I like how here people are talking and agreeing, other then arguing and telling each that they are wrong because they have a different opinion.

[@kayleighviegas9115]

The director: we are removing songs and mushu to make it closer to the original Also the director: adds a westernized phoenix, makes mulan a literal super hero, removes the message behind the original myth, takes clothes from the wrong time period because they're "prettier", and so much more.

[@Vristatos789]

I find it weird that this was the same director who made Whale Rider which was praised for being close to Maori customs while this Mulan has issues that can be, arguably, easier to research with a simple google search

[@Angie-ji7be]

I really don't mind that some films that take place in historical settings choose to deviate from historical accuracy for visual aesthetics, at least when it's something as minor as clothing, but I agree with your whole point. They clearly weren't as interested in being closer to the original legend as they claimed to be.

[@kayleighviegas9115]

@@Angie-ji7be yeah, the clothing was the most minor of the issues I had. On its own I wouldn't have had a problem with it, but with all the other issues it was kind of the nail in the coffin for me.

[@laobok]

And added a witch character even though they're not a thing in Chinese folklore.

[@tygerlyn1123]

@@Vristatos789 I've heard that the discrepancies may have been due to studio interference instead of director intent.

[@GriffinCardinal]

And when everyone needed her most she disappeared but I believe that she has returned to bash a live action movie

[@spacedinosaur8733]

(bum...bum...bum...bum) intro theme song from Avatar: The Last Airbender.

[@blindlobster]

Every high and mighty leader leaves... Jesus (from Religion) King Arthur (from the King Arthur fantasy, perhaps history) Harold Holt (from Australian History/Government) (Arguably) Emperor Sigmar Heldenhammer (until recently, blame new crappy writers) (the character left one fantasy fiction to enter another) (from "Warhammer Fantasy Battle" to "Warhammer: Age of Sigmar"} (Arguably) King Gilles le Breton "the Uniter" (until recently, blame new crappy writers) (from "Warhammer Fantasy Battle") Phoenix King Aenarion "the Defender" (from "Warhammer Fantasy Battle") (Arguably) Lord Voldemort (he came back) (From "Harry Potter") Arguably Elric (this happened in one series of three) (from Fullmetal Alchemist) I'm sure that there are more but I cannot recall more...

[@darkest.diamond]

Hi. I'm your 666th like. Bye.

[@zironthegamer]

😂😂😂😂

[@louruitatsu7633]

Ok good im not the only one😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@unwise_TW]

You know what was pretty mature, for a “baby movie” that Mulan did? They abruptly stopped a musical number and showed the eradication of a village, and for the rest of the scene there was a deafening silence that allowed the viewers to SEE how utterly shocked the characters were and allow the viewer to come to their own conclusions on how the scene made them feel. But hey that was just a “dumb baby movie”.

[@happydemon3038]

@Spectrum Well, technically it was the dragon who landed the finishing blow, but yeah, Mulan's kickass. Actually, the animated movie had Mulan setup a finishing blow for someone else, while the live-action movie had someone else setup the finishing blow for Mulan. But for the animated movie it was more urgent, while in the live-action one, it seemed like just a formality.

[@katlyndobransky2419]

Yeah Disney obviously doesn’t understand. Taking Mushu, the Cricket, and the grandma out of a movie isn’t going to make it “mature.” It just takes out the joy and the fun. Same thing with taking out Shang and the songs. Takes out what made the og so great

[@CMGThePerson]

@Spectrum plus, said "dumb baby movie" had no songs after that moment sunk as shit got real

[@Emelefpi]

Sure, it was Mushu who pulled the trigger, but Mulan 'loaded the gun' so to speak, as it was her planning which resulted in Shan's death

[@lizlazmccringe2043]

What kills me is that Mulan found a girl worth fighting for... the little girl in the village. And of course they don’t include that ...

[@dejaharper8534]

Can we talk about how Cell’s synopsis of this movie is way more entertaining than the movie itself

[@michaelzaiser8088]

Not a hard accomplishment when a kick to the crotch is more pleasant then this movie. However, her synopsis is indeed very entertaining.

[@a-s-greig]

Always has been. The plot to "Strange Magic" was never better than when 'twas told through Celly's sock puppet theater.

[@basedbattledroid3507]

Cell's anything is better than Disney's new things

[@mariokarter13]

You might think that supporting a terrible status quo is a bad thing, but that's just China. Can't have you speaking out against the CCP, or it's off to the camps with you.

[@loreweed8882]

o u c h .

[@AscendantStoic]

China already did a very gritty and realistic version of Mulan in 2009, it's far better than that crappy Disney live-action remake ... watch it instead.

[@ovalayacademy364]

Name? What's the name?!

[@ninka_43]

Tell us the name!!

[@AscendantStoic]

@@ninka_43 Well it's just Mulan, here is the wikipedia page. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulan_(2009_film)

[@daniboy4153]

The movie is on KZbin

[@amandasamson4513]

oooh please link me a site? how can I watch this?

[@yokuchan1172]

S-should I say it..? Just because a character has a love interest doesn't make them weak or any less empowered DISNEY

[@good__person]

Ironically, many villain said that love weaken them.

[@fionamasters1822]

Seriously if you do it right the romantic sub plot can be really engaging like in avatar the last air bender. Didn't make ang weaker at all.

[@lessismore8533]

Ysh and the whole Sheng/Mulan thing didn't even START til the very end of the movie

[@victorthecollector9198]

And they didn't even not give her a love interest they just gave her a lamer one and erased bi icon Shang I'm gonna scream

[@purpleberry3564]

True

[@alastairdeng8972]

All the action looks like the TERRIBLE Chinese dramas action scenes. My parents watch Chinese dramas all the time and they laughed at how bad Mulan was.

[@dcscruz2970]

In dramas is because you like the characters that every bad fighting scene feels intense

[@plutossky7534]

@@dcscruz2970 Instead in this Mulan has the personality of a stick

[@baron-von-masky]

@@plutossky7534 wow, give the sticks some credit!!!

[@jackmack4181]

Alastair Deng did your parents like the original

[@jeanettecabrera9368]

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[@jiggityjack8113]

At least Aladdin had Will Smith’s charm. This movie literally has nothing

[@ZinogreBeam]

Yeah imo out of all of these the Aladdin one was by far the best but not in the terms of that its actually good

[@julianpradarodriguez7336]

Aladdin had very impressive dance numbers and will smith, when allowed to be laid back and charming, was a blast.

[@acewhitlacker2552]

Agreed

[@cometmoon4485]

I think Jungle Book (2016) was really solid. The characters were charismatic and memorable, It looked spectacular, it employed authentic Indian actors, and it changed enough from the 60s version to feel fresh. I think the fact that the original was so many decades ago helps a lot too. There is less nostalgic attachment to the cartoon, and people remember it less vividly than something that came about barely 20 years ago like Mulan.

[@Noquarious]

Ngl, I think Cinderella was the first solid live-action movie. Done well despite not being a musical

[@legotothelegonian]

Disney: We took out Mushu because we want this movie to be realistic Also Disney: We also added a witch with shapeshifting powers, an origami Phoenix, and having the characters have the powers of chi that allow them to do amazing things without training whatsoever.

[@MouldMadeMind]

And not to forget reality breaking martial arts.

[@Shadowkey392]

@@MouldMadeMind that was just them trying to mimic Chinese cinema.

[@Shadowkey392]

They weren’t trying to make it more realistic, they were trying to make it more Chinese.

[@captainmega6310]

@Naukumaija Mau-mau don't know about that. Doesn't the Chinese always produce bootlegs?

[@captainmega6310]

@@skraskraa._.5371 Ah so they are cool

[@cinderstar4377]

With the amount of times “honor” is said they might as well have replaced Mulan with Zuko

[@a-s-greig]

^Would've made a better movie tbh.

[@greenstarlover1]

That would be an dishonour for zuko.

[@TF2Fan101]

I think even Zuko would tell them to dial back on the honor talk.

[@Falxifer95]

Not even Zuko, the Ember Island Zuko.

[@slevinchannel7589]

Insanely bad. An insult to the Source Material is not even 10% of the Problem? Oh, wow. Thats a feat. But Plot Holes, Fake-Feminism, Plot Holes and much more also??? Wow!

[@ThePorcelainMoth]

I told my family that the Live Action Mulan was going to be garbage, but my family didn’t listen and they wasted 30 dollars on Disney+ to watch this movie a few months before it would’ve came out ._.

[@julianmartinez4719]

Your loss will be remember fondly

[@dailygeek1334]

Bro, same! I told them that the movie looked bad, but they didn’t listen!

[@Benjack-so7gd]

Same

[@TtimeXP]

Same dude.... All they said was "it's just because you like the animated version." ... Well yes and the live action track record has not been good. And it looked bad anyways.... Not my money that I spent 💅🙆‍♂️💁‍♂️

[@spritemon98]

My stepdad somehow enjoys this crappy movie

[@P.Whitestrake]

That "film critic" who said this Mulan version is respectful... I wonder how much money Disney had to pay him. Nothing is respectful in this version of Mulan. Wrong period of outfits, wrong concept of chi, wrong mythology (using Greek phoenix myth for traditional Chinese story), & straying far from the original ballad.

[@creaturetransylvania8943]

Phoenix is the empress symbol in China from what I heard.

[@TheVoidofemptiness]

@@creaturetransylvania8943 There is a Phoenix in Chinese mythology, known as the fenghuang But the fenghuang is different, as this is the phoenix that doesn't revolve around rebirth, which is why the Phoenix seemed really out of place in the movie, seeing as Disney could've used the fenghuang instead.

[@creaturetransylvania8943]

@@TheVoidofemptiness Knowing Disney probably not since,they don't even got the armor right.

[@TheVoidofemptiness]

@@creaturetransylvania8943 yup

[@samandsophia5632]

I am also pretty sure there is no witch

[@Kusanagikaiser999]

When the Original Animated classic is more mature, more realistic (yes even with TALKING DRAGONS AND MUSICALS), better filmed, better acted, and have a better message, than the supposed "Mature Live action Remake for GROWN UPS", yeah you know you fuck up hard. I keep saying this, I never ever going to support ANY of these live action remakes until Disney prove me they are ACTUALLY TRYING to make a good story, and this movie just prove they never will. So to quote the great Mushu......DISHONOR TO DISNEY, DISHONOR TO THIS CRAPPY REMAKE, DISHONOR TO THIS FILM COW, DISHONOOORR!!

[@thecrazyape7051]

Great Mushu? Ha! It's the POWERFUL, the PLEASURABLE, the INDESTRUCTIBLE Mushu!

[@Moonstar79]

Dishonor to your cash cow, Disney!

[@Nunshle_Uvmee]

The only Disney remake I genuinely like was the Jungle Book one.

[@ackee39]

Yeah. And the funniest part is the live action mulan is PG13, while being less mature then a G rated movie

[@RiderNexus]

Pete's Dragon was really the only good one

[@kylesquid]

Every review I see of this manages to point out ANOTHER way this movie is stupidly written

[@mythoughtsexactly2145]

And with every positive review, I learned that it's a "good" film regardless because it is led by a strong independent woman, directed by a woman, and that being traditionally feminine is bad. Because FeMIniSm!

[@froggyringu]

@@mythoughtsexactly2145 ...there are positive reviews? I haven't seen one. ...though, I have only watched reviews from Chinese people.

[@mythoughtsexactly2145]

@@froggyringu you have no idea how many idiots out there claiming this a masterpiece

[@froggyringu]

My Thoughts Exactly jikes! I don’t think I wanna know. XD;; ...I feel sorry for those who think that it’s good.

[@francescaoyanedel4895]

I think I've spent more time watching reviews than the run time of the movie, and each one manages to point out a fresh horror

[@OReily08080]

Tops is a perfect example, even Azula, like it seems they’re naturally gifted, but you could tell how skilled and how hard they’ve worked or at least continue to grow stronger

[@TheMimo2001]

Tophs whole story was about using earthbending as an extension of herself, and as a way to interact with the world. Azula was a prodigy who practiced relentlessly. Their overpowered statuses are totally earned, AND enhance their character arcs and personality

[@maybeeton]

Oh, and let us not forget the most important thing... They had PERSONALITY! Mulan is just bland.

[@kou7191]

@@maybeeton Even MAI had more personality lol

[@Meepo007]

ATLA is an astute example of brilliant writing and certainly outshines the majority of recent Disney films. Which brings up a problem that often results in these remakes: people don't appreciate animation. They think of it as something for children when in reality many if not all animated movies and TV shows are far superior to their live-action counterparts in writing and character and plot development. Every one of these remakes is an empty shell of the original removing or altering what made the animated version amazing. Anything they add just makes it worse. These remakes are pointless, disgraceful money-grabs that have no reason to exist. And truthfully this movie had quite a lot of potential because they could do more than mirror their original movie and create something different. They could start fresh and ignore the original animate movie and base it primarily on the original ballad while adding something new. Creating new characters! They could have hired actual chinese people to write this movie! But, no.

[@TheRoomforImprovement]

Azula was also an interesting example on how her prodigy status gave her immense pressure to live up to, only for her to drive away those close to her.

[@ariyuril]

The sad thing is that Disney execs will probably think Mulan flopped for having a female lead with an all-asian cast.

[@kimifw58]

The audience they care most about now is China, and since China hated it, they might at least learn about cultural sensitivity.

[@novaterra973]

That or COVID. Or they will think it is because they haven't kowtowed to the Chinese government hard enough.

[@viakurari596]

Most likely they will blame covid 19

[@danielarputharaj9918]

@@ocelotlesbian where i live its £5 pounds per cinema ticket, so its not as expensive for me, but still, i eould probably just not watch it

[@changsiah2]

hater

[@randomkword]

I never thought seeing a grown man humping out fire while screaming “ HONOR, HONOR, HONOR” was something I needed to see

[@amberdawn868]

What makes it better is that it's Zuko's VA cosplaying Zuko IRL in that snippet XD

[@finch8703]

Does anyone know the link to the og video?

[@jeswicas]

@@finch8703 it's the nostalgia critic video on the top 11 best episodes of avatar the last airbender

[@sarasamaletdin4574]

It’s really cringe the way he does it. In wish he would have just done some movement from the show.

[@ChasehaWing]

@@sarasamaletdin4574 I disagree. I found it very fun XD

[@Nighthowlerschannel]

The fact that the Live-Action Mulan has earned less than the Animated Mulan's budget should already give Disney warning signs of what they're doing wrong.

[@positivea9111]

Yeah they should using themoney for goo

[@positivea9111]

Typo I meant to say it “They should use there money wisely not with cheap movie with a quick buck.”

[@Nighthowlerschannel]

@@positivea9111 as they say, in for a penny, in for a pound.

[@joshuajoe1419]

But that’s not the movies fault, it’s Covid. If Covid didn’t happen, this movie would have been a success despite being awful.

[@nathanc.8795]

I'm also displeased by the idea that live-action is considered to be the "grown-up" medium. There's so many examples of sophisticated animation in pop culture. It's a shame not enough people realize that.

[@canvas_125]

I HATE how “grown-up” is synonymous with “live-action.” People’s perception of animation in the Western world is a travesty.

[@justsomegamer6719]

@@canvas_125 A lot of western critics heads would explode if they knew about Grave of the Fireflies.

[@joyc.e.7511]

Seriously. The west need to take notes from the east (especially Japan). Anime is a thriving industry and is continually showing that animation is an amazing medium for storytelling and is appealing to everyone regardless of age.

[@josealcazar2922]

Meanwhile Anime

[@basedbattledroid3507]

And similarly a lot of live-action films that are solely meant for kids and not adults

[@scouteques8778]

"this video is brought to you by skillshare, the company that is more interesting and original than the movie itself"

[@kimifw58]

Comparing a movie to a company makes as much sense as comparing a carrot to a blender.

[@Cobalt360Degrees]

19:00 And not only throwing away her armor, throwing away her *father's* armor. The thing that, along with the sword, is her literally and symbolically taking up her father's duty, and her carrying some physical reminder of who she's fighting for. BUT NO. Lets just have her throw it in the dirt because here it symbolizes nothing but *lies.* D'x

[@santiagobarreraruiz7280]

@@LunaTheCommenter she has the most powerfull armor plot armor

[@rattian1976]

That’s awful, I never thought of it that way. It’s extremely selfish to her father as well. She’s so worried about honor yet she throws out her fathers armour from his time in the war. So disrespectful. Can you imagine if someone did the equivalent here in modern day America and like, threw out a veterans war medals of belongings? (I make the comparison because I am American, and not as knowledgeable in Chinese culture, but I feel like it would be just as disrespectful) Especially if the person who threw it out was the persons kid. Like, “Hey dad, remember that time you fought in the war and risked your life, and how it was a large part of your life? Well I threw off your armour and smeared it in the dirt. The armour that you *specifically* took care of all this time”

[@wolveraspeaks]

Eh... It was man armor... It was like... Wearing patriarchy

[@santiagobarreraruiz7280]

@@wolveraspeaks eh no Is like calling a bulletproof chest pratriarchy because It was Made by men and also there has never been woman armor Its just the same as a man's one

[@etherealsoul9386]

@@LunaTheCommenter With how armor works on others in this movie, I doubt it was ever protecting her. But yeah, it angers me when armor doesnt work properly in movies. Somehow, swords can just cut plate in movies??

[@jnetwrk3083]

Having Mulan with magic chi powers completely ruins her entire character In the original she just a normal girl who threw hard work and dedication became a hero to China and grew into a different person than she was in the beginning of the movie In this movie she's the same character from the beginning to the end she makes no mistakes and has no grown as a character Dishonor on this movie

[@thecrimsondragon2379]

gotta agree

[@cintronproductions9430]

Seriously, what were they even thinking?

[@Cinnabun9]

@@cintronproductions9430 Money, Lots. Of. Money.

[@thecrimsondragon2379]

@@Cinnabun9 weve got to have money...

[@Cinnabun9]

@@thecrimsondragon2379 Disney already has billions of dollars

[@juzoinui4627]

To Disney; DISHONOR!!! DISHONOR ON YOU DISHONOR ON YOUR LIVE ACTION DISHONOR ON ALL YOUR REMAKES

[@thejaycrewsshow9827]

Lol I read this like a song and it was funny 😂😂

[@justinschroder7787]

Disney lost there Honor years ago

[@thejaycrewsshow9827]

@@justinschroder7787 when?

[@justinschroder7787]

@@thejaycrewsshow9827 i don't have a precice Date Sorry

[@jackiegonzalez6814]

Dishonor on their cow! 🐮🐄🥛🍼

[@gandalftheantlion]

If she just had personality then overpowered mulan wouldn’t be too bad.

[@billuraral1870]

Her personality is being overpowered (and HONOR!)

[@Appl3forPFP]

@@billuraral1870 She reminds me of Jiren from Dragon Ball Super, just because both of their personalities are that they’re strong: Q: “What do you like?” A: “Strong.” Q: “What do you want in life?” A: “Strong.” Q: “How did you form bonds with your comrades?” A: “Strong.” Of course, this isn’t an exact 1-1, but I find it’s close enough. Edit: Clarification

[@slevinchannel7589]

Remember kids: If you use armor or any defensive strategy or even strategy at all, you're a bad person. It's neither feminine nor manly to use Armor or Strategy or anything. The only thing manly and feminine is Buckets of Water. That and Monster Trucks. YEAH! Seriously: All this reminds of 'The Last Airbender', that disaster. Why the heck do some people still cling to Netflix? Dont they know just how many people need to Greenlight something so it gets made and then airs and then stays?!? A LOT, is the Answer.

[@remixchild]

It’s like they’d tried to copy korra and did not stick the landing

[@Appl3forPFP]

@@remixchild Yeah. Korra has a personality. And identifiable likes and dislikes. In the ~8 reviews I’ve watched of this movie, I can’t get any information on who Mulan is in this movie.

[@barleysixseventwo6665]

I’d like to think somewhere in the Disney film crews there’s someone who genuinely wants to make a Live Action movie as good as the animated movies. That poor hypothetical person.

[@JaelinBezel]

It’s probably one of the cameramen or boom mike holders tho

[@ADAJ342]

F

[@thefishyminer3572]

F

[@phenomcosmic450]

Yeah but they won't ever be allowed. Because Disney doesn't care about being good, they want to milk that nostalgia cow til its udders lactate dried blood.

[@toganium4175]

The movie is bad/bland enough, but knowing that Disney was filming this near a concentration camp just makes it worse.

[@undeadladybug7723]

A concentration camp the actress playing Mulan apparently supports.

[@krunchykat9249]

With the main actress that can't act emotions and supports police brutality... Yayyyy

[@finland4ever55]

And the actress is communist and anti Hong Kong, as she glorifies civil unrest. Ironic she plays a woman who is the opposite of that.

[@Laiser]

@@krunchykat9249 As bad as that is, you shouldn't use actors' opinions to judge a movie.

[@fermintenava5911]

And to top it all off - they were apparently fine with shooting near a concentration camp and making Mulan a reverse feminist, but couldn't bring themselves to make Artemis Fowl the villain in his own movie. I know - weird priorities, but so has Disney.

[@samuraijaco1]

My biggest problem with the “super overpowered female characters” thing going on right now, is that they drain the personality away from them, and their strength is largely unearned. Toph is an extremely likable character, is extremely strong, but she’s also vulnerable. She’s not perfect. Characters like Rey, she’s got no personality, pilots the Millennium Falcon better than Han Solo, and is “the most powerful Force-user”, all without a minute of training. I have no problem with powerful female characters. I outright encourage it. I would just like them to be interesting and likable, as well as powerful. Showing weaknesses is not a bad thing. It makes for better characters. Hollywood needs to learn this again.

[@Wishmaker25]

I couldn't have summed it up better my self man

[@godmodeextreme]

Agreed. Mary sues are always so bland for some reason.

[@Meepo007]

Yes, Cara Dune and Ahsoka Tano are great examples of good strong female characters. Whereas all the characters in the new trilogy basically have no character.

[@victorthecollector9198]

I know I'm a clown for defending Rey but goddamnit I was so disappointed about her character arc because there was potential in there from The Force Awakens! They could've actually done something with it, she had a personality and the they???? Didn't??? They just trashed her man it's honestly just sad to see

[@leilah5434]

For the 106th time, atla sets the example.

[@reasyrandom]

"Guaranteed to make money anyway" Meanwhile, me watching the Mulan remake crash and burn at the moment: :)

[@grantmoore8228]

Do we know if it's actually crashing and burning? Yeah it's doing terrible in the box office but that's because no one wants to go the theaters right now. From what I gather, almost every streaming platform is pretty secretive of it's viewership numbers so we don't know if it's a success or not. Regardless, that 30$+ cost certainly isn't helping.

[@saiyanscaris6530]

@@grantmoore8228 considering its basicly the most hated of the live action remakes by far. and any and all reviews of it by this point are negative reviews that says something

[@liaminator4950]

I mean rn its only made like a fifth of its budget so its flopping HAAARD

[@grantmoore8228]

@@liaminator4950 thankfully in this case, Disney and Hollywood at large seem incapable of accepting the idea that bad movies can simply happen and instead blame external issues. Hopefully this movie or even the next one doesn't make as much money as they hoped for and will just raise their hands in the air and go "oh well, guess no one's interested in live action remakes anymore..."

[@Goleon]

Grant Moore - If there’s any big lots of money it’ll be from the merch and that’s only if it looks nice.

[@blinkachu05]

Here's one: Dishonor to Disney, Dishonor on their families, Dishonor on their cash-cows.

[@disneyvillainsfan1666]

Dishonor on their Cash Cows indeed.

[@alvinbrown5809]

Which one is it dishonoring more the cash or the the cow

[@blinkachu05]

@@alvinbrown5809 yes.

[@jiado6893]

I won't see the movie, but its existence doesn't offend me.

[@TheHero136]

You know what drives me crazy about making things "Dark and Edgy?" The fact that it somehow means that there can't be any heart or comedy whatsoever. Worse still its not the same as being mature! Look at Adventure Time. Look at Fullmetal Alchemist. Avatar: The Last Airbender. Legend of Korra. Dragon Ball Z. Star Wars: The Clone Wars. Samurai Jack. Courage the Cowardly Dog! Nightmare Before Christmas! Hell, look at the animated Mulan! All of these are dark AND mature, because it balances light heartedness and comedy with moments of drama and seriousness. They don't just scream OOH LOOK HOW ANGSTY AND COLORLESS I AM!!! Sucking out all the color and fun doesn't automatically make something mature and more adult! And something can be mature without excessive darkness. The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh is a bright and colorful children's movie but it doesn't ever talk down to its audience and remains very genuine and emotional. Everybody can enjoy it. These live action Disney remakes just don't respect this idea and they just continue to be immature cash grabs.

[@jeremyusreevu237]

Agreed. I hate how people are equating fun and sillyness with garbage. It's like they think movies are good when you can't have fun when watching them. After all, "No pain, no gain" right? That expression can go to so much hell.

[@leiderhosen7110]

@@jeremyusreevu237 Pain strengthens your character, but only if it has a point. Making a mistake is painful, but you learn from it and become better to avoid repeating it. Adversity fosters growth. Pain and misery for the sake of pain and misery itself has no point. If there's no compelling reason for anything to happen, there's nothing to learn and no room to grow. This is why Grimdark is a tossup where LOTS of stories in that genre end up being trash--it's shock value and misery porn for the sake of itself because it will be seen as "so mature" and "so dark", but it's all surface level, there is no greater point to be made.

[@lance2580]

There's a difference between a mature animation and a cartoonish live action movie.

[@pormpfspimperton6804]

I would t call courage the cowardly dog mature. It sure is dark though

[@godmodeextreme]

I know! Balance between darkness and comedy is important, if there is too much of one, it makes things so much worse!

[@JoshuaDHSW]

That awkward moment when you thought this movie was going to be bad because it's a carbon copy of the original and has bad writing, but instead it's bad because it filmed by Chinese internment camps, pushed nationalism, cast a lead who supports the Hong Kong police beating the peaceful protesters (then Disney tried to cover that up), and ALSO just happens to have bad writing

[@Alan-xg4yr]

lol like they BEG US begging on their knees to hate it like bruh who does that without knowing they will get backlash

[@TheZenytram]

@goran stojanovic yeah dude, it was peace bofere police fucked them up. you think they would just seat there getting shot in the face. not even in brazil 2013 that happened.

[@MatheusHenrique-od8di]

@@TheZenytram You know the answer to that question is yes. People like him think that the only way to protest is to politely request change and let the authorities shoot you for daring to go against the system. Bootlicking at it's finest.

[@dudehappy3278]

@goran stojanovic aren’t you the one who live in fairytale mate? Do you live in Hong Kong huh?

[@dudehappy3278]

Wow,after you watched that much of live and collected that much of research ,you still don’t know the police is using forces on us instead ? sorry,although you did kinda a lot of research,that’s nothing compare to the people who live inside,I watch my friend around me got arrested everyday,and do you know what they did ? They just comment in Facebook about their thought about the government. People here are brave enough to stand against the government,although they will got punch.have you ever saw a police kick a pregnant woman just because she wanna see her husband who got arrested? I agreed few of the protester is using forces too(mostly used on dead things lol),but they are using forces to protect themself from police in a extreme situation,I believe anyone will do that when getting hit right :/

[@vincent1935]

Another thing was that they claimed this movie was aiming for accuracy to Chinese culture, history and geography, yet it’s extremely inaccurate in those departments. For example, they got chi completely wrong, for starters, it is life energy, everyone regardless of gender and age has it, and it is not a superpower.

[@Ninetails2000]

It feels like they did all their research on anime message boards with neckbeard otaku who couldnt tell the difference between Japan and China.

[@naprizodenvtuber2529]

Ninetails2000 yeah, basically, some spokesperson was like, “hey, they have this chi thing, could we put this in the movie to be more culturally accurate?” And some guy who only watched early 2000s Shonen was like “yes, I know all about how chi works, it’s basically chakra from naruto and ki from dragonball! You use it like the force!” And then they got rich off this steaming pile of crap.

[@changsiah2]

hater

[@Ninetails2000]

@@changsiah2 How so?

[@TF2Fan101]

Forward or Jump About that... The movie flopped in China and here in the US.

[@samuelromerosoto3497]

You missed the part where Nick Fury invited her to become one of the Avengers.

[@daelen.cclark]

What?

[@meghanrodriguez2393]

She probably declined to stay with her family

[@ChRW123]

This whole movie is just a prequel to the real badass Marvel Mulan crossover that will appear soon out of nowhere!

[@aztn19]

Was that before or after the scene where Luke Skywalker dismissively tossed her sword into the sea because he didn’t care about joining her fight against the First Order of Shan Yu?

[@Imeggscelent]

no, no it was after they filmed the acclaimed nature documentary: the lion king

[@Arcademan09]

"it looks oddly cheap" *THANK YOU!* I swear I thought i was the only one who was pointing that out because every positive review keeps praising the look of the film but it looks so cheap! There's older chinese films with smaller budgets that look *WAY* better than this movie, KUNG FU HUSTLE LOOKS BETTER THAN THIS, ESPECIALLY THE FIGHTING

[@Laiser]

I think it's the camera they're using plus the props and lighting. It feels like Disney Channel movie at some times.

[@MutatedPercent]

I know right! I swear some sets look like they're mad out plastic I've seen playgrounds at McDonald's that look more expensive

[@user-rc3cm1zv4j]

Not to mention how empty it looks

[@corberus3119]

Iirc one of the costume designers got paid to travel Europe and go to museums with Chinese artifacts, instead of going to China (or hiring someone who had knowledge of Chinese culture)

[@claus8148]

God, I fucking love Kung Fu Hustle

[@LordSumSums]

“My extra chest padding to enforce my lie saved my life.” So the turning point in the remake is Mulan’s boobs? 0.o

[@blazer3756]

*E X T R A C H E S T P A D D I N G* IF this is what they were actually going for, Why, just why was THIS a way of trying to reach equality. Imagine: “Hey young girls! You guys will make excellent warriors when you are older because you will grow breasts!” But even if this is a sarcastic joke, what if you are actually right?

[@slevinchannel7589]

Insanely bad. An insult to the Source Material is not even 10% of the Problem? Oh, wow. Thats a feat. But Plot Holes, Fake-Feminism, Plot Holes and much more also??? Wow!

[@Rex67657]

Your profile picture is shantae and well you know. you know.

[@leiderhosen7110]

@@blazer3756 That's not really what they were going for. The extra padding was to bulk up the rest of her chest so her boobs wouldn't stand out--and her profile would look more masculine since on average men have more upper body mass than woman and you wouldn't want to join the army looking scrawny and weak. If anything it DIScourages having breasts because it makes it harder to hide your femininity, though I suppose this particular movie gets a pass since she needs to hide the fact she's impersonating her father...until she's not. No, the REAL reason this is really fucking stupid is because cloth armor is an actual real thing and was very effective on the battlefield since it's good at absorbing shock and very cut resistant when made properly, but also very lightweight and cheap, so anyone could afford it. It also compliments plate armor as an extra layer of protection, as you can just fix the plates onto the cloth and have a very tough, very form-fitting protection. So she takes this armor--which any soldier should be wearing--which just saved her life, and tosses it out cuz she's a hipster who doesn't need no man-armor. The real moral is "Don't let no man influence what you do, even if they are employing common sense in an extremely dangerous profession. You don't need so safety gear because you're a queen."

[@st_z0na]

To be honest, the animation was far more empowering, as a woman, it made me feel like I could be who I wanted to be and no one could stop me but the new one makes me feel that I need super powers to be anything in this world

[@JaelinBezel]

Having superpowers would be neat though.

[@firewall5189]

@@JaelinBezel if it robbed me of my personality though i might reconsider lol

[@geardog24]

Let's be honest, when we first heard there was no Mushu we knew this movie was a failure.

[@M星の水晶]

They lost me when they said they want to be more realistic but added a witch and a phoenix.

[@cartoonmaster2401]

One does not simply make people like a movie more by taking Eddie Murphy out of it...

[@aboredgarchomp482]

That alone was enough to make me not excited for this movie.

[@changsiah2]

hater

[@xoLoveTruelySucksxo]

when they said there will be no Mushu or songs I knew it was gonna be one of *those* movies.

[@interrobangings]

thank you for the comment about "haha let's shame women for being feminine and not wanting to be girl bosses" my best friend isn't less of a strong woman because she loves pink and frilly things she isn't telling anyone else how to live their lives, so I'm tired of people telling her How To Be A Woman (TM)

[@daelen.cclark]

Right on!!

[@sophieamandaleitontoomey9343]

My biggest problem here is that it completely erased the bond Mulan had with her Dad. It was the secret core of the movie and the original makes it a priority to show us how much they love one another. The teasing moment they have together before the matchmaker where she brings him tea, to the cherry blossom scene where he reassures her that she may not be ready for the matchmaker now but that she will be later and the fact she takes her dad’s place because of how much she loves him. And the moment when they come full circle at the cherry blossom tree after Mulan comes back and he tosses aside the emperor’s gifts to hug her makes me cry every time. That bond is completely gone from this movie and it’s straight up unacceptable.

[@nutsandbolts1264]

I'm gonna be honest, I didn't see the movie and I still won't

[@audreym3908]

Same here. Gonna spend my 30 bucks on something that I actually like instead

[@zaredluna2456]

Good stay away from it

[@lizardman7718]

You aren’t missing out on anything.

[@audreym3908]

@@Snoffety I met someone that likes the beauty & the beast better than the original. Dk if I want to be friends with them lol

[@Peku_G]

Same

[@EternalYorkieMom]

I’m so sick of the women need to be perfect to exist thing. NOT EVERYONE CAN DO IT ALL!!!

[@aaaah540]

Hey, women! If you do everything exactly perfectly and are super-duper powerful, you’ll be good enough to be an equal to a perfectly average man!

[@blazer3756]

It’s fine if it isn’t obviously just for “empowering!”. Want a powerful lead? Ok good! Doesn’t matter what gender they are just make sure they’re not too OP and lame. If it’s based in a world where men rule everything? Make the freaking protagonist interesting and have an arc to defeat this. Are they already trained really well or are just average or their role doesn’t need a huge training backstory (ex. a scientist, a student, etc.) because they’re not in a world where men rule everything? Great. Is it in a modern world BUT needs a lot of training? Make them train! It’s hard to explain but I hope you get what I mean.

[@JaxHolo]

What's he means it's that women in general needs to be perfect to exist and arrange marriage.

[@blazer3756]

@@JaxHolo Who said that?

[@JaxHolo]

@@blazer3756 I mean she Hannah thompson mention she's sick that women are treated to be perfect to exist and force into arrange marriage

[@crisisasp5396]

"KNOW YOUR PLACE UTERUS HAVER!" not gonna lie, that one got a good chuckle out of me

[@Ramsey276one]

“ i literally didn’t say anything “ OMG XD

[@Ramsey276one]

1:27

[@duchi882]

The first 6 minutes and 8 seconds of the video is Top Tier Disney's Mulan Live-Action Adaptation Summary

[@slevinchannel7589]

Insanely bad. An insult to the Source Material is not even 10% of the Problem? Oh, wow. Thats a feat. But Plot Holes, Fake-Feminism, Plot Holes and much more also??? Wow!

[@slevinchannel7589]

Remember kids: If you use armor or any defensive strategy or even strategy at all, you're a bad person. It's neither feminine nor manly to use Armor or Strategy or anything. The only thing manly and feminine is Buckets of Water. That and Monster Trucks. YEAH! Seriously: All this reminds of 'The Last Airbender', that disaster. Why the heck do some people still cling to Netflix? Dont they know just how many people need to Greenlight something so it gets made and then airs and then stays?!? A LOT, is the Answer.

[@chrono-glitchwaterlily8776]

@@slevinchannel7589 why do you keep spamming this comment?

[@anapeglar4602]

"I shall fight the avatar MYSELF!" "..what?"

[@Tehnameless1]

The Pitch Meeting vibes from it, just *chef's kiss*

[@abthedragon4921]

CellSpex is back!? CELLSPEX IS BACK! Sorry, just a little excited, my favorite movie review KZbinr is posting again.

[@wafflecatanimalspets3784]

Yea Same

[@lockskelington314]

You speak for us all!

[@crazydaveo30]

Disney: this is a mature version. Also Disney: so hear me out, super powers!

[@st.joanieofarc6115]

Haven’t seen this movie and never will because it was terrible and filmed near concentration camps. CONCENTRATION CAMPS

[@jclkaytwo]

I hate concentration camps too, but how does that affect the movie at all?

[@turquoisecrow4513]

JCL Kaytwo DISNEY THANKED THE PEOPLE RUNNING THE CAMPS IN THE CREDITS

[@jclkaytwo]

@@turquoisecrow4513 oh. I haven't seen the movie so I didn't know. well that sucks.

[@rangopistacho6928]

@@jclkaytwo geuss Disney are Chinese nazis now

[@cayden6057]

I really feel like more people should be standing up against this. It's not "like" concentration camps or "comparable" to them, they literally *are* just camps. The ones you hear about in history class set up by the Nazis, yeah, the Chinese Communist Party is literally doing that _right now._

[@jstarwars360]

12:20 - The filmmakers behind Scott Pilgrim vs. the World treated the action scenes like musical numbers. If characters don't question the logic of breaking into song, it's only fair that characters also don't question the logic behind someone exploding into bit coins.

[@monicaenns9967]

Ooo, bus fare!

[@zachblair3794]

Monica Enns pretty sure the line was something like “aww man it’s not even enough for the bus fare”

[@NobodyC13]

"Sounds like someone wants to get . . . funky." Scott Pilgrim is also probably the only good live-action anime.

[@portable_rat]

@@NobodyC13 cough cough you're forgetting the live action scooby doo movies

[@NobodyC13]

@@portable_rat Scooby-Doo is not anime.

[@ejoshcoron]

"For a $200 million dollar film, it looks oddly cheap" AND it had EXTENDED post-production time. VERY extended. You often hear the time crunch in post is the main cause of sub par CGI. Mulan really has no excuse

[@tandnmom100]

Adding to the list of things that piss me off about this movie is that even though the cast is mostly Chinese, the four - count 'em - FOUR screenwriters were all white. Which I suppose explains why such baffling things as "chi is not for women" and "witches are evil" and "the Chinese phoenix rises from the ashes too" are included in this movie. Also, the costume designer was white too, and they sent her on a culture tour of China so she could get a real sense of the traditional dress that the movie tries to frame as ugly as possible for the sake of comedy, when they could have just hired a Chinese costume designer and have the costumes be actually authentic rather than secondhand imitations of authenticity. Remember, this was the movie that Disney tried to hype up as "more accurate and faithful to the original ballad and to ancient Chinese culture and tradition". That description tagged onto a movie this dense offends me, and I'm not even Chinese!

[@Lillowh]

Even worse is the main actress supports the human rights violations by China in both hong kong and THE LITERAL CONCENTRATION CAMP they were filming nearby. Disney even thanked the propaganda agencies in the credits

[@buggart]

@@Lillowh I mean, there is also the possibility that she was forced to say it or she would *wink wink* disappear.

[@Dylamn]

I don't see why so many people haven't realised, if you wanna see some authentic chinese cimema, watch some goddang chinese movies. It baffles me that people expected this to be made with any care.

[@silvereyes242]

I wouldn’t say the writers being white is inherently an issue, there are plenty of perfectly knowledgable white people who can easily represent a culture very well. Just look at Avatar the last airbender for instance. The problem is that none of the writers has a clue what they were doing or what made the original Mulan so beloved.

[@tandnmom100]

Silvereyes 24 ATLA was not trying to represent a specific Asian culture, it was making an entirely new culture using real-world ones as a springboard. But if you're TRYING to authentically and respectfully represent a very specific real-world culture in your movie that costs literal millions to make, then WHY IN THE NAME OF EVERY POSSIBLE GOD WOULD YOU NOT HIRE SOMEONE FROM THAT CULTURE TO WRITE THE FUCKING SCRIPT

[@bitty29]

“WITH BLACKJACK AND EQUALITY” *angry bender noises*

[@rdphoenix07]

And Hookers! You know what? Forget starting a new country!

[@ChasehaWing]

@Socialist Sylveon Only if we get some bear hookers beside them.

[@andre_601]

Mulan: I would sacrifice my life to protect my country Mulan 2020: HONOR! HONOR! HONOR!

[@somerandolad]

"Dishonour on you! Dishonour on your cash cow!"

[@sweetpixiesmile]

I laughed waaaaaay to hard at "Jedi Elsa."

[@thefishyminer3572]

Jedelsa

[@InRealTime769]

What bothers me most is that Disney won't see all this mess as "Hey, maybe we should hire more diverse writers". They'll see this as, "You're being ungrateful, this is why we don't have diversity in film"

[@cestalia]

I think research is better. I don't mind non diverse writer if they did a research for it (maybe like the animated Mulan). But nooo, let's just stick on the stupid writing!

[@phousefilms]

Three writers and not even one of them was Chinese. That tells you all you need to know right there...

[@Shadowkey392]

@@phousefilms not really...

[@RiveroftheWither]

@PH5121 You do realize that the Chinese Government funded and played a major role in the writing of this movie right? It was literally made by their specifications, to appease them. They were even the ones who picked the main actress, a well know nationalist that is very vocal in her support of Hong Kong being an oppression police state...

[@claireglover1391]

@@RiveroftheWither wow they were the ones who helped f the movie up?! Yikes…

[@r.sanyasinaidu3576]

Mature means understanding life, values, responsibilities, being more real means having good charm, comedy, feeling, knowing when to be serious and being good and kind person. Rather than being edgy and not caring about anyone and with no motivations and good action storytelling like actual good Hong Kong movies like jackie Chan, Bruce Lee and other. So being dark means not mature and adult

[@theaboveaveragefangirl]

FINALLY THE TRUTH COMES OUT.

[@gracepan8534]

The whole point of a rabbit metaphor from the ballade was that you COULDN’T tell their genders apart when the rabbits were running. But Mulan can cause... chi?

[@TheZenytram]

the most IN YOUR FACE metaphor that men and women are the same, and they get that wrong.

[@slevinchannel7589]

Remember kids: If you use armor or any defensive strategy or even strategy at all, you're a bad person. It's neither feminine nor manly to use Armor or Strategy or anything. The only thing manly and feminine is Buckets of Water. That and Monster Trucks. YEAH! Seriously: All this reminds of 'The Last Airbender', that disaster. Why the heck do some people still cling to Netflix? Dont they know just how many people need to Greenlight something so it gets made and then airs and then stays?!? A LOT, is the Answer.

[@lizlazmccringe2043]

Weird dig but the animation for the rabbits looked really floppy ??? Like they _looked_ hella fake ...

[@RamdomLolola]

Critics: Live action version is better than the animation version because animation is only for kids and live action are for grown up! ..... Are we still there in 2020? When they are going to GROW UP!? Both of those affirmations are false and even more together!

[@sedij2358]

I mean seriously, TRY to tell me that an animated movie like Spirited Away is targeted towards kids.

[@RamdomLolola]

@@sedij2358 and try to tell me that what the serie Primal is for kids! 🤣

[@slevinchannel7589]

Remember kids: If you use armor or any defensive strategy or even strategy at all, you're a bad person. It's neither feminine nor manly to use Armor or Strategy or anything. The only thing manly and feminine is Buckets of Water. That and Monster Trucks. YEAH! Seriously: All this reminds of 'The Last Airbender', that disaster. Why the heck do some people still cling to Netflix? Dont they know just how many people need to Greenlight something so it gets made and then airs and then stays?!? A LOT, is the Answer.

[@RamdomLolola]

@@slevinchannel7589 ahah, "airs" 😁

[@RamdomLolola]

@@slevinchannel7589 Mulan 1998 : i am an ordinary girl, but i will do anything to protec my father and take his place as a soldier, even i have any basic training and low to none chance to survive! Mulan 2020 : i am magic lol! I can do what ever i want! So deal with it! Some how, the "kids" version i more mature than the "grown up" one

[@KazuhaEien]

So here's what I thought of this weird-looking movie over time: *Me when I watched the first trailer:* NGL this honestly looks like one of the better Disney remakes... *When I discovered they were removing the dragon and cricket:* Ah, that's quite disappointing but also really understandable. Hope they make up for that- *When I discovered they were removing the songs:* OH NO!!!! Oh well. At least I don't have to see them ruined. *When I discovered they were removing the love interest:* Okay, Disney's going a bit too far. *When I discovered that Mulan is now a Mary Sue in the movie:* OH MY GOD!!!!!!! *When I discovered that she now has a bland overpowered Falchion sword thingy:* WHA- *When I discovered that there is now a fake boring Pheniox:* WTH- *When I discovered that this new Mary Sue Mulan took off all her armor just so she could "be herself":* OH NO THEY'RE TRYING- *When I found out that the symbolic hair cutting was cut:* HOW CAN THIS- *When I saw the awful editing:* I'M LITERALLY CRYING RIGHT NOW!!!!!!! *When I found out that they filmed near concentration camps, and Disney thanked them:* Pfffft I'm so done with this.

[@kimifw58]

Removing the hair-cutting scene is the only change that makes sense. In traditional Chinese cultures, cutting your hair is considered disrespectful to your parents. That said, they could have replaced that scene with something equally dramatic, but they clearly didn't.

[@WiloPolis03]

The fact that Disney abused a portion of the population of China to make a movie that didn't even turn out to be good is hilarious

[@greenstarlover1]

Yikes!

[@sarasamaletdin4574]

Disney didn’t abuse anyone because they filmed a movie in the same province (Chinese provinces are sizes of European counties). I don’t like China and would not go there for even a vacation currently (in case there was no corona) since I would feel I was normalizing the sitsuation. But it’s not support to go to country and do business there nevertheless. I am sure we have all bought things made in China that are as problematic as filming a movie there.

[@Sh1ranu1]

Sara Samaletdin sure we may have bought stuff that has supported China, but that doesn’t mean we should keep doing it. Now that concentration camps are more and more blatantly exposed, we should be fazing out such support

[@changsiah2]

hater and lieeee

[@slevinchannel7589]

Insanely bad. An insult to the Source Material is not even 10% of the Problem? Oh, wow. Thats a feat. But Plot Holes, Fake-Feminism, Plot Holes and much more also??? Wow!

[@sebastian2456]

There's a difference between adult and mature something that has blood, bad language, or in this case is super serious without much comedy is adult something meant for adults. Maturity comes from understanding how the world works for instance Mulan in the animated film using her intelligence to become a great warrior despite being in a woman in a man dominated field is mature and shows empowerment. Mulan being born with powers that give her unnatural fighting abilities which she uses to kill several power might be adult but its not mature because it doesn't portray any theme of empowerment because it has the message "You can only compete with men If you are born with certain attributes" which should never be your message.

[@SS-xr7jf]

At this point, I just take "mature" and "adult" to be coded words meaning. "Boring as hell". Checks out pretty well. Doing your taxes ✔ Scheduling appointments ✔ Mulan 2020 ✔

[@mariokarter13]

"Just support the status quo like a good girl and maybe you'll be empowered one day." It really is a Chinese film.

[@trashwithanxiety2922]

have you seen martial art girl movies? this mulan has nothing on them, the HK movie martial arts movies has been doing badass female fighters for a long time, I recommend checking out the crouching tiger, hidden dragon fights!

[@vidhio3849]

noooooooooooo... I haven't watched any Chinese movies but I can assure you that the main complaint of the movie for Chinese audiences is that it wasn't a Chinese film. They messed up their culture and all of the writers and directors are American, they never bothered getting a single Chinese writer to even look it over.

[@mr.x2567]

@@vidhio3849 I think they meant it sounded like Chinese propaganda

[@curesaul5749]

Disney just needs to stop every remake gets worst than the last.

[@thejaycrewsshow9827]

I hope they don't reboot Hercules

[@portable_rat]

@@thejaycrewsshow9827 honestly I'd be interested to see that as long as it's animated

[@blindlobster]

@@thejaycrewsshow9827 Good news! Emma Watson will be playing the character of "Hercules" in the movie "Hercules." I heard that Michael Cera also applied for the character but he wasn't popular enough to get the part.

[@Alucard2091]

@@thejaycrewsshow9827 Disney wiki confirmed it

[@boydixonentertainment]

Porridge You know it’s not.

[@SupremeLeaderKimJong-un]

Fun fact: The OG Reflection by Christina was recorded at the China pavilion at Epcot

[@cailleach8416]

Thanks for the info, Supreme Leader!

[@zacariasvelazquez8400]

I have a question: wheres the fun in the fact, like, what you said is a fact but its not funny, im confused, someone, please answer my question

[@derock78videos5]

hey ik u

[@Shimase24]

Thought u where dead

[@Comment-gg2hs]

@@zacariasvelazquez8400 fun facts are rarely, if ever funny. That's not the point of fun facts.

[@feliz695]

"This is the GROWN UP version of Mulan." Animated Mulan is literally one of the Disney characters with the highest kill-count.

[@blackday1013]

"We'll start our own country. With blackjack and equality." That's a 10/10 reference right there.

[@kotorandcorvid4968]

I don't get it

[@blackday1013]

@@kotorandcorvid4968 It's a Futurama reference. The original line was, "I'm going to go build my own theme park. With blackjack. And hookers!"

[@kotorandcorvid4968]

@@blackday1013 Ah

[@CinnamonGrrlErin1]

The Grand Duchy of Robonia

[@Stormfire1777]

@@blackday1013 “you know what, forget the theme park and blackjack!”

[@courtney1329]

I think it's absolutely insane that Disney made such an issue about hiring an all Chinese cast but couldn't be bothered to hire ONE Chinese writer.

[@slevinchannel7589]

Insanely bad. An insult to the Source Material is not even 10% of the Problem? Oh, wow. Thats a feat. But Plot Holes, Fake-Feminism, Plot Holes and much more also??? Wow!

[@dorothygale9648]

There's also the removal of Li Shang, bisexual icon, and replacing him with a plastic spoon.

[@awsomedude23456]

I honestly never understood why people thought he was bi anyway

[@semidecent4395]

@@awsomedude23456 at least he had personality

[@seanbernard4212]

@@awsomedude23456 Cause he was starting to crush on Mulan before he found out she was a woman

[@awsomedude23456]

@@seanbernard4212 no he wasn’t, that was respect, or admiration, not romantic

[@Eeep-f7y]

Even if he was supposed to be bi or not, Shang was one of the best characters in the movie and replacing him with a bland soldier just made me scream

[@KiraAotsuki]

That clip of Dante Basco will never stop being funny. Also very well said about this movie, love the spoof at the start

[@ajshim]

Having seen the 2020 Mulan Disney film proved to me how little the 2020 version of the company understood Chinese culture. To quote a Chinese person I spoke with "The 2020 Mulan Disney film is like eating American Chinese food. A bastardization of the actual thing. The animated film although much less realistic felt closer to the actual thing." Hell the same person told me he was going to show the film to other people to teach how not to make a film about Chinese culture, history or myths. Side Note: For a "More Historical" film about Mulan with the Mongols using magic makes no sense. Since historically Mongols feared the supernatural. It was rare if ever they would use someone like a witch. Second Note: Chi is not magic. It isn't something that you can just conjure up or are born with. Chi is earned over the course of time via mastery of oneself. Or if you want a less philosophical explanation. Chi mastery is knowing how to control your body via breathing control. Not exhausting yourself and pacing yourself. Also, China hates the whole "Chosen one" trope because it doesn't blend with their culture. Also I will never understand how remaking an animated film into a live action one as an "improvement" or some how superior to a "Children's Only Medium."

[@pantyeater-kun5788]

So chi is hamon then?

[@slevinchannel7589]

Remember kids: If you use armor or any defensive strategy or even strategy at all, you're a bad person. It's neither feminine nor manly to use Armor or Strategy or anything. The only thing manly and feminine is Buckets of Water. That and Monster Trucks. YEAH! Seriously: All this reminds of 'The Last Airbender', that disaster. Why the heck do some people still cling to Netflix? Dont they know just how many people need to Greenlight something so it gets made and then airs and then stays?!? A LOT, is the Answer.

[@ajshim]

@@pantyeater-kun5788 Sure, let's go with that. Breathe properly & be able to pull off amazing stunts.

[@pyroshrimp4073]

This is not Mongols. If it were mongols they would have lost and angry horse man did more conquest than just china

[@powwowken2760]

"Let's make Mulan like a wuxia film!" "That actually sounds kind of cool, so we'll get some really talented martial artists to play the leads?" "Oh hell no, we can just jump cut around the bad action" "So you want high quality actors instead?" "F#@K no, good actors are expensive, and be cheap with the effects as well" "You want a wuxia style movie, with bad fight scenes, bad actors, bad effects and made cheaply, how could this possibly fail!"

[@positivea9111]

Wait then why the movie cost 200 million dollars was it most spent of the bad actors.

[@commercialchase8442]

If you ever feel like you make bad arguments... Just know that whenever I tell my parents that Disney is money-hungry, they rebut it with "It's not wrong to make money."

[@obliviousotterI]

Y E S. I T. I S.

[@ebitoro4590]

It's hilarious because the movie didn't even manage to do that.

[@bluewinterstorm]

"Oh good! So you don't mind I've sold you on the internet then? Cool, they'll pick you up in the morning : D"

[@justyouraveragecorgi]

My parents say that I can't formulate an opinion on it because I haven't watched it and that I'm biased because I have one friend who didn't like it. Yeah...no. I saw multiple reviews before I even knew that my friend had watched the movie.

[@commercialchase8442]

@@justyouraveragecorgi My parents also say that, but here's the thing: I'm not a 90s kid, so I am not nostalgic over these movies. For me to enjoy them, I need to know they're good. With such overwhelmingly negative critical reviews, It's a safe assumption that they're bad.

[@AverytheCubanAmerican]

They changed her so much from the OG to this. She was so relatable in the OG. But now apparently you need a magical power to do anything

[@ahmadkazan7994]

"Were getting invaded by an edge lord and a witch" I never new shadow the hedgehog was an intrest to diseny.

[@lorenerd7780]

I watched mulan with my 8 year old cousin yesterday. We had so much fun, she really loved it and the burned village scene was really emotional for her. She said she liked how clever Mulan was multiple times in the movie. In the end she even said "I want to watch this again. It was really good." And i don't think she would have felt the same way about the 2020 Mulan movie.

[@SquidInkAnimations]

Or Disney can get back into animation and make more originals than these stupid live remakes

[@TT-ig7tg]

I miss 2d animation smh :(

[@thejaycrewsshow9827]

Nickelodeon needs to take the same advice

[@sawderf741]

What has it been? Like 11 years?

[@em.the.awful.waffle]

@@sawderf741 9 years :(

[@bluecrystalclear2344]

I mean they are making a new Animated Disney princess movie...

[@thenewguyinred]

I feel like Disney’s gonna pretend that this film never existed in the following years to come.

[@carsfan1995]

Well it’s still going to be on Disney+. They should do their research next time in where they decide to shoot on location so they don’t film by a concentration camp

[@Stormfire1777]

@@carsfan1995 they did their research and knew damn well where they were filming. They literally tried to hide the fact that they filmed it there

[@positivea9111]

Wide Darth Vader Wow that very cruel and mess up all because of money, that out of the line.

[@troodon1096]

I can still see the live action version of Mulan on Disney+. I can also see The Black Cauldron. Can't see Song of the South though...

[@darkhelmet87]

Given how good ducktales and owl house have been, maybe disney should just stick to animation

[@lutube7897]

YES! We really need some original Disney+ animated content! I mean, just look at how Netflix has been with their animated shows! Seeing that on Disney+ would be the best!

[@darkforge1013]

Yes 1 second of both of those shows is better than the actual 2020 mulan movie

[@sunspotmill1291]

TV animation and the movie industry are two very different things there. But I certainly don't disagree with you

[@a-s-greig]

Amphibia exists too.

[@jmann531]

Yeah dont forget amphibia

[@mofthemoth5755]

"an edgelord and a witch" LMAO-

[@RaptorTheWild1312]

As Mushu would say: "DISHONOR ON YOU! DISHONOR ON YOUR COW!"

[@benstorf2940]

Gotta love the " cartoons for kids, live actions for grown ups" stereotype :]

[@MrTristy22]

Them: "Live action is for adults and cartoons are for kids. The two just can't go together because of that." Who Framed Roger Rabbit: "Am I a joke to you guys?" (Also considering that particular film casts the toons as second class citizens, that does feel pretty appropriate.)

[@ryanmaclean1720]

If I may, the reason that people take issue with the OP women like Rai, this Mulan, or whatever, is less that they're OP, but the only real character they have is that they are OP. there is a balance to OP ness and character in ANYTHING, look at kirito from SAO, people HATE him for being a boring character AND OP, but compare Kirito to Shigeo from Mob Psycho 100, while Shigeo is OP, he has a personality, and grows as the series goes on, and is a loved character. so Lets compare this Mulan to Toph, this Mulan is naturally gifted and is just magical in a place where magic is rare, she is bruding, always right, and is perfect at everything. Toph is a blind earthbender who took what most would consider a serious condition in the realm of bending, and used it to her advantage, while she is usually tough and has a dry whit, she also has a softer side, and she does face the consequences of her actions. Her over confidence and love of tricking people has gotten them into serious trouble with the wooden cell and combustion man, she is an instigator and has put the group in jeopardy the most out of anyone, in other words, she's a fun character. All I'm trying to say is that it doesn't matter if the OP character is male or female, if that is there most Identifiable trait, they're going to be boring to watch and people are going to hate it

[@herpderp3916]

This, this, this. Main characters that are strong and flawless and perfect right at the start are boring as hell.

[@michaelzaiser8088]

Agreed. The problem in this movie is not that Mulan starts OP (although there are a lot of issues I have with this in regards to the story they are trying to tell). The problem is that she is a boring stick in the mud that, as far a I can tell, never changes her facial expression once. She might as well be a robot in this version, given her emotional range.

[@novaterra973]

Also, in many of these kinds of fictions, OP women seem to be OP due to some inherent special qualities that only they have. The rest of the females are still muggles. I really don't think this is 'Empowering Women', just a usual pandering to viewers who think they are secretly special unlike those around them.

[@rdphoenix07]

@@michaelzaiser8088 Kind of reminds me of Captain Marvel: OP, but with zero personality, two expressions: bored indifference/constant scowl, and little to no emotional range.

[@stardoogalaxie9314]

!! You mentioned Mob Psycho! I could go ad naseum at how much of genius One is at writing. There's a simple, palpable contrast to the character that grounds the character and the story.

[@everwildart3563]

Your impression of Mulan in the beginning has more personality than actual Mulan in the live action movie

[@lessismore8533]

I agree its accurate and hilarious!!

[@Cheetahgirl_Studios]

Less Is More “Halt there witch! I will defeat you with the power of the male genitalia that I totally have!” “No you don’t.” “CURSES! I have been thwarted!” “But now that I’ve carried two buckets of water up a mountain, I HAVE EVOLVED!”

[@kinglycrimson]

Main actress supports police brutality Mulan didn't do it for the glory she did it because her dad couldn't Disney thanked propaganda companies Disney thanked propaganda companies Disney thanked propaganda companies They got rid of mulan's friends and mushu but decide to give chi(instead of doing what she did in the original and TRAINING) Edit: they in reality would've tried to excute her

[@gabylix71_52]

All chinese actors talk well about the police cause ya know, if they go agains them. They will kill their family in China, cause that is what the government in China does

[@marianov3977]

What do the main actress' personal thoughts have to do with all of this though?

[@kinglycrimson]

@@marianov3977 idk heard it around so I just put it there

[@brawlboy84]

@@marianov3977 the Hong Kong police are like the states's but a lot worse. the people of Hong Kong have been fighting for freedom for a while now and a big name endorsing the police is like, really not cool

[@kinglycrimson]

@@brawlboy84 ok thanks for explaining it

[@nothayden9192]

This dub of the movie is way better than the actual film

[@ThatOneDudeWhoPostsStuff]

Mind going into a bit more detail?

[@Moonlitwatersofaqua]

Which dub?

[@eoghanfeighery7383]

@@ThatOneDudeWhoPostsStuff Cell doing a hilarious recap. Look up her reviews on Strange Magic, Netflix's Death Note and Emoji Movie to catch my meaning.

[@henryconner3002]

@@eoghanfeighery7383 it's like how SAO abridged is better than the real thing

[@kimifw58]

@@eoghanfeighery7383 That's a parody slideshow, not a dub.

[@otaking3582]

A movie that went out of its way to appeal to Chinese audiences, even at the expense of the rest of the world, and yet the Chinese don't like this movie and didn't even want it in the first place. To quote the Code M.E.N.T. version of Lelouch, *"WHAT IS THE POINT OF THIS THING?!"*

[@janyip398]

Hollywood made this movie to please their CCP overlords, the PRC population thinks this is a load of crap.

[@cuvpake]

"Know your place uterus-haver" Laughed harder than I should've

[@Ramsey276one]

1:27 XD

[@Schwazoom]

"Now you asked, it doesn't seem like a punishment" Okay, that part made me laugh out loud

[@daelen.cclark]

I’m pretty sure that kind of thing happened in history.

[@kiranaarthavitaherdiana5359]

The first 6 minutes of this video is better than the actual movie

[@Ramsey276one]

FACTS

[@Indonesianboy]

True

[@avivastudios2311]

Celly needs to write comedies.

[@lele_noobzilla]

"empowereing woman means kill feminine things" never frase was so accurate...isn't better to embrase the feminine things that society usually see as fragile or weak instead of also hating on it?

[@pelinalwhitestrake8195]

Not only is this movie extremely historically inaccurate and extremely inaccurate to the original story but the movie was literally filmed at a Uyghur concentration camp

[@sarasamaletdin4574]

No the film was filmed in the same province as the Uighur camps. The Chinese provinces are sizes of European countries.

[@vixeon_0454]

When my mom told me they were making a Live-action Mulan this is how our conversation went. Mom:Oh did you hear their coming out with a Live action Mulan? Me:Cool Mom:I thought you'd be more excited. After all Mulan is your favorite. Me:Its perfect the way it is it doesnt need a remake. Mom:Welp now you know how i feel

[@theindiefox347]

"Critics who treat 'adult' as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. Young things ought to want to grow. But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development. When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up." C.S. Lewis