Mulan: The Ultimate Mary Sue (Movie Review)

[@mamaya311]

As a woman, I'm so tired of this woman > man mentality in Hollywood. The thing that I loved most about the original Mulan was that they didn't try to make her overly special. She was a commoner who set out to save her father. She wasn't seeking glory, she wasn't even trying to be a great warrior, she was just trying to survive. But because she was a woman, she had a different perspective to offer that turned out to be just as valuable as her fellow men. But they never put down the man's perspective either. It was the fact that men and women are more powerful working together. How can you watch the original and not understand how powerful that message is? It's like the makers of this mess were not even remotely interested in honoring the original movie.

[@ffordegroupie4931]

They're not.They're interested in making Mulan: The Captain Rey Marvel edition.

[@IsabellaCataldo]

Same here. I’m all for female empowerment, but not when it makes the men look like helpless idiots.

[@saddlerrye6725]

@@IsabellaCataldo Exactly. When you have to make every men being an incompetent fool to make your wamen look 'badass', then it's just sad instead of empowering.

[@kou7191]

The easiest (and by that I mean laziest) way to empower women is by villifying men. Even as a kid I disliked the oh so common "boys vs girls" types of episodes in cartoons.

[@yoitscattystylelady5350]

This! They should have more women = men and not women > men or vice versa

[@Empress_Theresa]

Disney took the most capable and empowered "princess" of their roster, and made her a Mary Sue. How stunning and brave!

[@ihvojd]

Even when Empress Theresa is calling you out for making your strong woman into a Mary Sue, then you know you’ve fuck up royally.

[@Empress_Theresa]

@@ihvojd Despite of popular belief, I'm not a Mary Sue. I have God on my side. That's why even sharks can't hurt me.

[@taylorsmith3211]

@@Empress_Theresa what about street sharks?

[@Roy.A]

@@taylorsmith3211 C'mon dude, everyone knows that Street Sharks deal super effective damage against Gods...

[@nessyness5447]

i heard rummors of a live action hercules and now i fear for meg...

[@missymani]

Past Mulan had very relatable flaws. She has clumsy, lazy, and physically weak. She worked her ass off to be athletic and strong, she learned discipline and commitment to overcome her flaws. That's a great role model.

[@andre_601]

Agree. She made the Emperor Bow to her. A symbol of honour nobody else would get just like that. He even mentioned the "bad" things she did (disguised as a man, go to the military, destroying parts of his castle) but finishes it with "and you saved us all" giving the idea that she made "wrong" (In the eyes of others) decisions for the right goal.

[@ShinkuGouki]

That's what made us root for her. The fact that she had climbed a difficult path and "reached the summit" makes it feel worthy of emotion. In this remake,she just has no emotional impact. A pile of lumber has more emotion.

[@asian123205]

Ikr the cartoon is way better, I watch it more than the reality version.

[@Quinyel]

Mulan 1998: Ordinary girl who achieves everything through hard training, hardship and discipline. Mulan 2020: Only special because of magical powers. Way to promote empowerment!

[@mygoogle1594]

It's all about the Midi-Chlorians.

[@MarioX1818]

and consider that she only set out to protect her father and not get caught so that it does not bring dishonor to him.

[@Drain_Life_Archive]

Exact opposite of empowerment. No one can actually relate to a mary sue because their powers and accomplishments are literally impossible.

[@au7923]

The mulan in 2020 is so bad

[@Obi-Wan_Kenobi]

Pretty much why Luke is better than Rey in a nutshell.

[@fernandobattung0226]

Mulan animated: Earned the respect and honor people gave to her by perseverance and hardwork. Mulan live-action: Born with superpowers.

[@sleepyrowlet]

So many people backed up and supported this movie saying that this live-action is basically based on Chinese cinema cultures with all the kungfu martial arts that were over the top. hence there are Chi superpowers and all. But clearly, they can't even get what makes the classic Mulan so special to begin with, what makes her as a grounded human being that persevered her strength and confidence despite her identity as a woman without the Chi powers. :|

[@solarsailer4166]

It's so disappointing. I really liked the original. It celebrated a woman's strength. Mulan was innovative and clever to compensate for a lack of big muscles, she was determined and found a way to make things happen. _That_ is someone to look up to.

[@sleepyrowlet]

@@solarsailer4166 Exactly, classic Mulan is a feminist movie done right and which I can relate as well with the moral of her character. 2020 live-action just straight up turns her into an Asian X-men mutant.

[@juanmenjivar28]

Yes it is a different adaptation. But little girls will probably look up to her anyways. Who doesn't want to have superpowers as a kid? And if this is their first time watching Mulan, then this will be Mulan for them. Just like you have a different idea from the other Mulan you watched before. Maybe it is not what you wanted but it isn't bad either.

[@sleepyrowlet]

@@juanmenjivar28 Well if I have a kid, I will tell them to watch the classic one instead. Besides, I saw some parents were commenting that their kids were bored watching this for the first time and when they changed to watch the original animated version, they are liking it more because of course it's animation and there are more comedic reliefs as well with Mushu and the sing alongs too. This live-action is a very sombre and a bleak adaptation which I felt that people won't like it at this current time as well because of all the pandemic things that's going on everywhere now. We just want to escape to something that's very joyous right now, simple as that.

[@antobutera]

As a woman, let me say, we need to put an end to this toxic feminism that's taken root everywhere. It's not only utterly ridiculous, but also ruining the effort and teachings of true feminists. Disney should apologize to the whole world for ruining such a wonderful, staple movie like Mulan with all this pandering, misguided pseudo feminist bs. Shame on them. Also, next time they want to be culturally sensitive, they should perhaps consider hiring a more appropriate writing team, familiar with the original tale that inspired the animated movie.

[@antobutera]

@Elisa Castro idk, I think of you look at Mulan and her sister there's a pretty clear message that as a woman you'll only be special if you have this inherent thing that you didn't actually work for and were lucky to get from birth. And that men will only respect you if you can best them because of your superpowers. I feel like the animated movie had a much better message that strength and honor has nothing to do with gender, neither extremes are good, and when you learn to embrace things from both sides everything is better. But maybe I'm reading too much into it 🤷‍♀️. To me, feminism is understanding that even in a masculine, patriarchal world, femininity can be a strength and an asset. The live action lost the message that a lot of the time brains are better than brawn, and it's not physical strength that makes someone strong. But that's just me. Sorry for the ridiculously long reply LOL

[@AnaGarcia-ld5lf]

The first problem with this movie is that it IS sexist because of this new Mulan. The message of this Mulan is very simple and clear: if you are a woman and you have powers like me, you can be like a man, if you are a woman and you are not the best, you have to know what your place is (as happens with Mulan's sister who marries because she is normal). And do you know what? The 99% of women are normal, and if you fight against the system, you will die as the witch. This is why this movie is sexist because of this mary su. It is a very dangerous film.

[@jkyotube]

@@antobutera Both you and Ana Garcia explained it perfectly. Because the original context works and appeals to BOTH men and women. Work hard, team work, think out of the box, honor, family and being selfless. Too bad, certain groups of people just want instant results nowadays however pandering it is.

[@jkyotube]

@H K its just a different form of prejudice. Hate men, take away their "advantage" and give it to women. So men will just end up suffering in silence.

[@jkyotube]

@H K yes i meant the New Mulan. Everyone should be given equal opportunity and chance, and then only based on individual merits. Sadly, seems impossible now.

[@parapendejadas4913]

Old lady: What is your name young lady? Mulan: Mulan.... Old lady: Mulan who? Mulan: Mulan Skywalker Old lady: WTF?....

[@christophershen6692]

Mulan... PALPATINE *Murders the old lady*

[@LieutenantSilver]

Oh my god, what beautiful compound cancer. This is so cursed, it reversed my bloodstream.

[@parapendejadas4913]

@@christophershen6692 hahahaha..LOL, yeah, thats better :)

[@davidjones2102]

pure words of poetry

[@kellanstec]

Old lady: What is your name young lady? Mulan: Mulan.... Old lady: Mulan Hu? Mulan: Yes.

[@greenghoul157]

The idea that women are only strong because they're women needs to end, why are women no longer allowed to have flaws and humility and no longer allowed to love? What is wrong with western cinema?

[@zachscarbrough2727]

Ellen Ridley wasn’t badass just because she was a woman. She was a badass because she did badass things. That’s the problem with these movies, they just constantly say that the female is badass, but they rarely show them doing anything that would earn them that title.

[@shonklebonkle324]

Even some hentai has better women characters. That is a weird thing. since characters in hentai are not made to be good characters, they are made to be fapped to (exluding fat bastards). Some hentai sometimes has amazing stories that can pull on your heartstrings and makes you feel different emotions such as being happy for the characters finally having a child or sad the the main characters life is falling apart and really hits you in the feels. "It's called hentai and it's art"- Samuel l. Jackson

[@elderliddle2733]

Because of a group of people who got together through intersectional politics and gained unprecedented amounts of power in the last 20 years. The took over almost everything. Academics, sciences, the arts, entertainment, the press, and Fortune 500 companies. They now wield so much power they can end your career if you speak against them. They think they can do whatever they want, and get pissed when the realize power does indeed have limits. They gained much of this power using the type of woman they showcase. Single, spoiled, career women who have no interest in dating or sex. That is who Hollywood is putting on the screen.

[@snowleopard9907]

@@shonklebonkle324 ok weeb

[@thanakonpraepanich4284]

@@shonklebonkle324 Hentai are still anime at heart so having a script and a storyboard in place before animating/shooting is still the norm. Mulan remake have neither. Hell, I am ready to call the first Bible Black Trilogy as both hentai and horror anime. Too bad the second one, Second Testament, fell to pieces.

[@Fishpasta4]

Anyone ever notice how Mary Sues always look bored when doing the impossible in movies?

[@falconeshield]

Stop giving me Bleach flashbacks

[@Muzical-Man]

Oh yeah like Rey

[@jovyisbizarre6668]

Because they knew they are boring as hecc

[@itrthho]

She is on record saying she doesn’t want to show emotions, because she fears she will look ugly on screen...

[@vulupus5621]

Oh, you mean like Boruto? :v

[@Rafa-Silva-Alt]

Mulan 1998: One of the best Disney Animated Features period. Mulan 2020: Worst than Star Wars New Trilogy and Captain Marvel.

[@l.c.8475]

That and all the controversy surrounding the movie

[@Revan_258]

damn that's sayin sum

[@metallord6960]

combined?

[@hiewenliem4494]

Wait for holywood to put together the actress who played all 3 leads as the new Charlie's Angels

[@yudhiadhyatmikosiswono9082]

22 years old movies has more than what today movie offer, such a shame.

[@GundamFlexing]

Disney: *WE CAN'T ADD THE DRAGON CHARACTER. IT WON'T MAKE SENSE* Also Disney: _ADD A WITCH!_

[@begobolehsjwjangan2359]

But they add talking utensils before..

[@dr7226]

Disney: we can’t add the dragon it doesn’t make sense Also Disney: Rey and Finn can fight against Kylo ren, a trained Jedi, after just learning the force was real 10 minutes ago

[@garylawrence7482]

And a Phoenix

[@Superstar5_]

Disney: The dragon is too unrealistic Also Disney: Makes Mulan a Superhero.

[@invisiblegirlart9162]

GundamFlexing this Is getting old

[@joshperdue6832]

This movie has the same “conflict” as Captain Marvel where the op main characters only flaw is not using their power to its fullest potential, and they never need to learn how to work with others. Cause they’re just better than everyone else. Tell me I’m wrong

[@saddlerrye6725]

And not to forget that the only thing that holds her back from using her full power are the evil men telling her not to do so.

[@realar]

You're not wrong.

[@yiklongtay6029]

I mean those "I am better than everone" characters could work very well. Sometimes people like a lovable *sshole. But when you pair that with the narrative claiming that you are the underdog and you represent some social struggle and a powerful message, you will get some narrative issues

[@chinnidiwakar]

Since you asked for it "You are wrong". I hope you are happy 😊

[@exoticcarfactsofficialchan7050]

No lies detected

[@s.d.703]

The song reflection is more meaningful because she tried to conform to her family ideals of a woman and she failed. She was kinda lazy but also creative. She was not a warrior. She selflessly chose to save her father. She almost got kicked out, but she didn't give up. She wasn't magic. She had to work at it. Same when she was found out to be a woman. She could have given up, but she continued to fight, not to prove herself, but to save China. That is why cartoon Mulan is awesome.

[@stepheneastern7661]

If I could like your comment a thousand times, I would

[@TamunaTsertsvadze]

And that basically proved she was a warrior. Because warriors are not badass peeps kicking enemies around with sheer force - warriors are those who stay true to the virtues of bravery, devotion to family, and self-sacrifice for those they hold dear. Original Mulan had all of that, while 2020's Mulan only had that inscribed on her sword. She had none of those qualities. She was just a superheroine beating everyone up. It was like the screenwriters didn't know how showing a message through a movie works :/

[@nickm9102]

@@TamunaTsertsvadze unfortunately they don't know how to convey a message through a movie anymore. There is a premade outline for movies now. 1. Make the lead a non-white, LGBTQ and whatever other letters that have been added in the 2 minutes it took me to write this, or a female character. (All is better) 2. You must never let your lead be worse than anyone else at anything they do. 3. You must make the lead personable so you must make their weakness their friends so keeping them around means they overcome their weakness. 4. Sit back and watch the cash pour in.(Note: every time this was done in the past it failed miserably but for you it will be different because you know you did so much better than the others did) They went from telling a story to telling politics and trying to pass it off as a story.

[@editorrbr2107]

@H K which, in fact, aligns FAR MORE with ancient Chinese mythos and traditions than an OP Mary Sue mindlessly gorilla-smashing her way to victory

[@aliciamarrow7062]

@@nickm9102 why is non-white lead a problem? Also it is Disney. So it would probably take them 50 years to gave a main character who is openly gay. And another fifty to not hide gay relationship in the background

[@theewildrose]

this is SO depressing. The animated Mulan is a nearly flawless film.

[@huthuthut5788]

Tim McCarthy explain please

[@andrewamp1]

Timeless classic indeed, still watch my old vhs tape from time to time.

[@Drain_Life_Archive]

@Tim McCarthy Welcome to real life. Humanity was very sexist throughout most of its history, especially militaries. But if you understand simple biology, you'd know they had good reasons for doing it.

[@nintonintendo1]

@@andrewamp1 i haven't heard about someone still watching VHS in like, 5/6 years.

[@shineinstars]

@Tim McCarthy still waiting for you to explain

[@Obi-Wan_Kenobi]

Just going to point out that Li Shang (the Captain love interest in the OG film) only ever showed interest in Mulan _after_ she left the army. That's the opposite of having a power dynamic over her.

[@LoneGamerNerd]

The argument is that Shang seemed attracted to her even when he thought she was a man. I'm not saying they're right, as it's been years since I've seen the film... But regardless, that was what made people think it was "inappropriate" to add him. So, in trying to cater to Me Too, they kind of insulted, or at least upset, the LGBT community.

[@Obi-Wan_Kenobi]

@@LoneGamerNerd Personally, I only got the vibe that he was only attracted to her after he found out she was a girl. But regardless, there is nothing wrong with attraction, only acting on that attraction in way that would be deemed inappropriate. And Shang never did anything like that. He never make a move on her, flirted with her, or did anything outside of (maybe) having a loving look at her. And if I'm bing honest, I don't even think he looked at her romantically until visiting her house at the end of the film after she was discharged. Shang never acted inappropriately to her, the MeToo excuse is bogus and an overcorrection by Disney.

[@LoneGamerNerd]

@@Obi-Wan_Kenobi No, I agree. That's always just an excuse for them to, basically, ruin the movies the previous generation grew up with.

[@Obi-Wan_Kenobi]

@@LoneGamerNerd It's a darn shame. Feels like Disney (and a lot of media in general) can't just leave things well enough alone.

[@LoneGamerNerd]

@@Obi-Wan_Kenobi Seems so. It's sad, and frustrating.

[@peterondesign]

What made Mulan in the Cartoon special: Intelligence, Bravery, Persistence (which every young girl can nuture) What made Mulan in the Movie special: Chi

[@felizpcitelgonza3208]

Which isn't used/portrayed properly

[@unicorn1poop]

They took the feminism out and said the only way a girl can be powerful is if she has superpowers. Fucking wack

[@SeasideDetective2]

And they didn't even spell it correctly. It's "ch'i" or "qi."

[@diablo.the.cheater]

The fun thing is that actual chinese stories of high fantasy using chi, the protagonist usually starts as a compelte negate, that has to struggle insurmeable odds to even be able to use chi, and even then they are alaways the underdog, even when they have something special, that special thing make them weaker and if they want to get that thing to make them stronger they have to put 3 or 4 times the efforts that other put, and when they get to be stronger thanks to their perseverance it is only to be tosed to a bigger pond with people that are just as special if not more as they are so they are not special anymore and rinse and repeat. Chi is all about cultivation, training, perseverance, etc. Even when the character is some kind of chosen one with a special power, it comes with a lot of downsides.

[@TheDarkMaster312]

@@diablo.the.cheater even goku had to train

[@EduardoMartinez-fk2pv]

“She’s holding back” So basically Frozen 2, Captain Marvel, The Last Jedi

[@Tater_Toot]

Eduardo Martínez Disney: “Society is not holding back women. Women are holding back themselves.” Just defy societal standards and you’ll be able to kick ass and do whatever you want

[@millybrandwood2466]

I’m sick of it want female who has to earn their power like they do for men it’s depressing and demeaning or show men actually respecting women or healthy relationships

[@millybrandwood2466]

Ria.Orion yeah I want more characters like teen titans 😂 they actually have flaws so many characters that are created are so boring because they’re perfect I wanna see normal people

[@ffordegroupie4931]

It's almost like people at Disney are idiots who don't want to write anything but all-powerful Mary Sues.

[@icecreamhero2375]

This whole song basically sums up what the movie is missing. kzbin.info/www/bejne/f3fYd6BmopeqoJI

[@SapphireAthena1]

I had no interest in seeing this movie, but I've been on a Mulan review binge because I am ASTOUNDED at how badly Disney got this. Mulan is my favorite Disney movie, and Mulan has always been my favorite Disney protagonist. I really liked your analysis, and it made me realize something. When you were talking starting at 12:00 about Mulan's strength not being physical strength, but her mind - which is very obvious in the movie - I realized WHY her strength is her mind. Her strength is her mind because she is at a physical disadvantage to the other men (at first) because she is a woman. (and because of her lifestyle as a woman in imperial China). However, it is this EXACT disadvantage of being a woman that leads her to using her mind and thinking outside the box. Her disadvantages as a woman in this make army force her to be creative and bring in an outside perspective to be considered an equal. Her brains, wits, and mind result from her disadvantages of being a woman, and the new perspective is so valuable and fresh that she is invited to sit on the Emperor's council at the end. THis sends the messages to young girls that "Hey, it's okay if you're not the strongest, fastest, or the best fighter. You can still solve challenges, and your perspective as a woman is valuable, both to overcome those challenges, and to society." In the end, the original movie turns Mulan's femininity, both performative (sneaking in with dresses) and non-performative, into her strength. In the new Mulan, they don't have this message, and they can't have this message, because Mulan is never at a physical disadvantage to the men around her. She is never forced to use her brain. She never has to problem solve. Her strength is physical strength, something that is considered more masculine in her culture and society at that time. What then is the takeaway from this? I think the first movie has a much better and more realistic message, especially for young girls, because it tells them - you don't have to be the strongest or the fastest, or even as strong or fast as the men around you, because you have other skills and qualities that can not only make up for that and put you on equal footing with those around you, but could be even more valuable in certain situations than simple brute strength.

[@Maverick180c]

Great take!

[@gbursine]

I legit am in the same position, and have been doing the same binge. its amazing how from a technical/social perspective western reviewers take it a part, and a cultural/historically accurate perspective asians are dismantling this movie.

[@geovanibenjamin8940]

The only positive thing of this movie is that now we can talk of why animated Mulan was so greate.

[@sparkypack]

Same goes for guys too. If you're muscular, you have other qualities than just lifting weights. However, nobody is flawless, super powerful or simply perfect as Disney tries to make us believe through their characters.

[@Sliider36]

growing up in the 80s and 90s, i was always taught boys and girls are different but equal. DIFFERENT but EQUAL. each with strengths and weaknesses... but EQUAL. its natural balance. but society wants everyone to be women now. feminism is cancer and its eating our society alive right now. its eroding masculinity and men into the void. we want the human race to be all female apparently? jfc.

[@jroggs85]

1998: No matter how ordinary you think you are or whatever life circumstances you think are holding you back, you have the potential to be amazing if you find your own strengths and apply yourself. 2020: Hopefully you are one of the 0.000001% of people who are ludicrously gifted and capable in every regard. Otherwise you suck and probably nothing can change that.

[@gonnegottkehaskamp1667]

Thats whats bothering me: Does Disney think about the effect they have on children? The children that are still supposed to be the main audience of these movies? Like, what is a young girl supposed to think when she sees this movie? "Hey, I know I'm one of these Chi gifted girls, so I can do anything" only to be disappointed when she gets older and discovers that she has no Chi, and therefore is just like anyone else?

[@awkwardorangedrawz5914]

Pretty much...

[@jroggs85]

@@gonnegottkehaskamp1667 I really think they have fallen into the extreme feminist trap of thinking that all-powerful female characters that are better than the boys at everything are "strong female characters." They've given creative control to untalented nags and chumps who want to push agendas without any understanding of the art of fiction writing. Remember when we were children and we'd pretend to be superheroes while playing with other kids in the neighborhood, and there was that one kid who ruined the game by declaring they were Captain Ultragod, and they were stronger than Hulk and faster than the Flash and had more gadgets than Batman and more abilities than Superman, and they were immune to everything and had no weaknesses? That kid writes movies for Disney now.

[@a.w.4708]

Also 1998: Relationship with general who had grown to aprecciate her through sharing experiences 2020: Nah, you can't have a boyfriend who has higher status than you!

[@Mac_Omegaly]

@@gonnegottkehaskamp1667 Look this rewrite is ultimately about Xi Z P. His party of the CCP symbol is the Eternally reborn bird the Phoenix, that Xi is a descendant of the Historical Mulan and on top of everything else claims that he also has the same level of Chi. So the problems with the moral of the story, it's to help Chinise girls to despair that they will never amount to anything, unless they are born with a power, or money. That the feudal system should return and that you should never attempt to cross the boundary from one class to a higher class.

[@noahheninger]

This movie looks so terrible that it's not even worth pirating.

[@sleepyrowlet]

I pirated this movie and I only skimmed through it, saved me at least 50 minutes of my life lol

[@notbudoski]

Also the actor who plays Mulan opposes the Hong Kong protesters

[@sleepyrowlet]

@@notbudoski Yeah and so many people still supporting her and denying the fact that she actually does support it, like wtf is wrong with them seriously...

[@tintinismybelgian]

Not even for the beautiful "northwestern China" vistas?

[@theredblurb132]

I saw it from someone who pirated it to KZbin. Watched through the whole thing (pray for me) it's even worse than they say. Take everything you thought you knew and liked about Mulan legend or otherwise. Now imagine the mouse taking it and chewing off the worst bits of every major scene from all the various versions. Over the centuries. Now imagine him dumping that out of his ass mashing it all together in the toilet as a giant lump. Then he leaves it there to congeal and grow into something horrifying. Next he comes back with a a car battery and some jumper cables. Uses that to bring it to life then carves a mouth into it and forces it to speak. The words that poured forth from that mouth is what the main character was. The squealing remainder is what was then mashed into the rest of the movie. I regret nothing except every second of my life that I wasted on that steaming pile of inane drivel. I honestly feel slightly dumber and kind of want to die now. What have I done to myself?

[@nexttimeon5684]

At least Star Wars wasn’t filmed outside of a concentration camp

[@kongkong1364]

how do you know that?

[@nexttimeon5684]

Kong Kong they thanked the person who runs the camp in the credits.

[@crowthewicked8344]

@@nexttimeon5684 Disney: Whoopsie

[@nexttimeon5684]

A Ninja lol

[@ShayMince]

The word "concentration camp" is so easily thrown around these days. Please come to Germany and take a tour around a real concentration camp. Communists like the chinese government are anti-religion, so they try to "re-educate" christians, muslims and buddhist alike. They don't hunt people down because of their biology and kill them in gas chambers. As much as I detest the practices of the chinese government, I think there is a difference.

[@lewanparesi2763]

Mushu who is not at the movie yet magic /chi is here for dumb reasons: DISHONOR! DISHONOR TO YOU! DISHONOR TO YOUR COW!

[@themanformerlyknownascomme777]

Chi, at least in Asian culture, is something that is "real". But it is not something that gives super powers

[@accelerator8558]

Why the cow? Whe she ever do?

[@Dr3Mc3Ninja]

I thought they removed him because it was supposed to be gritty and realistic, well now, they have no justification for taking him out.

[@Night-Lord]

SunBoxesSky Alois THAT COW HAD IT COMING!

[@metallord6960]

@@accelerator8558 i believe hes refering to diablo 2

[@Laura-qn2nf]

I'm a female. I'm a feminist. And I agree with you. Disney "feminism" is painful to watch, and utterly unenjoyable. Mulan in the cartoon was amazing bc she was not initially the equal of the males around her. She was weaker. And she'd always be weaker But she had great courage, inner strength, determination, and cleverness-- and she found ways to use strategy to become an integral member of the army. Like how athena the female is the goddess of wisdom and battle strategy, while ares the male is the god of war and brute strength. There's your balance. The sexes might be equal but we are not the same.

[@mortuitissedai2085]

This post is so great. I really despair sometimes-not only because of extreme feminism, but the extreme counterbalance that some people feel is necessary. It’s so unfair that feminism is now bad, despite all the good it did for society when women’s rights were so much less. You can’t deny the biological fact that women are generally weaker, any more than you can deny that females generally mature faster, and have a higher emotional understanding. Equality is not being as good at everything the other gender is good at, its being allowed prosper and find happiness in what you are good at regardless of gender.

[@mortuitissedai2085]

When I say “now bad,” I mean the views of a lot of people

[@oliviarichman6035]

Preston Cormick that’s literally feminism

[@danninmatthews5640]

For you Laura, I agree with you. Unlike you, modern day western feminism has lost it's purpose. Modern Feminism doesn't even go after actually problems such as the practices in the Middle East.

[@sourcandykisses5661]

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[@josiemgay7247]

The fact a male writer used the metoo movement as front to remove a perfectly healthy dynamic from a story is just...like dude... Nobody was fuming about the fact that an animated captain fell in love with an animated soldier and didn’t even pursue her until after she had LEFT the ARMY. Like why do so many writers say “we can’t do this this and this because of the me too movement” like oh my god it is NOT hard not to glorify sexual predation. Like if you can’t tell what is and is not glorifying an unhealthy relationship, maybe you need some counseling.

[@SaiIor_Moon]

So Mulan has "Force Chi" now. Why? "A good question....for another time."

[@Yougotcaged102]

Or never because this movie failed so hard either Disney would have to actually start putting *care* into there live action movies or just tuck them under the rug

[@raykenredgrave5692]

@@Yougotcaged102 somehow I don't think Disney is going to learn.

[@Yougotcaged102]

@@raykenredgrave5692 Sadly that's probably true

[@gravtycat9741]

@@raykenredgrave5692 Nah, they did before. I just hope they do before the company finally gets split

[@tonnentonie2767]

"My time has come" - A Turtle in a better film, or something.

[@LucefieD]

Teaching kids that they are special snowflakes and they can do anything without practicing or trying is real bad. When they grow up and realize they aren't just naturally good at everything and they really can't do the same shit as their male counterparts it will absolutely crush them. Old Mulan taught kids about comradely and accepting people who are different and how to think about problems in a different way.

[@Obi-Wan_Kenobi]

I think that kids are special and can do anything *but* only if they work real hard and practice! They have limitless potential, but the test of every human is to harness the potential!

[@woahhhmaithri]

I guess you meant 'girls' in the first sentence? Since you imply in the second sentence that their male counterparts will naturally be better than them, even though it seems like that sort of programming would be bad for anybody

[@lo4tr]

@@woahhhmaithri To be fair, there are lost of things that become difficult, if not outright impossible for people do depending on gender. Of course, OP's comment does tend to read a bit misogynistic, though I severely doubt it was intentional.

[@LilJbm1]

@@lo4tr I hate how misogyny is being used as a label whenever people point out the obvious differences between men and women, and how men are better than women in some ways. It's pretty fucking obvious. Physical strength: Men better than women Communication: Women better than men That is one example, and it's called reality, not misogyny. An inability to recognize this is caused by ideological subversion.

[@idontcare7340]

I'm not sure why people focus too much on gender and what each gender are better at than the other. If you remove men and women, it's just people with certain skills that they excel at.

[@MrFuggleGuggle]

Dragons are unrealistic. So is kicking spears, arrows, knives, and swords into everything from 30 feet away.

[@Ackalan]

Not in China, apparently.

[@naira.carissa]

And so is a girl with a superpower and no flaw

[@asian123205]

No mushu xc what lame movie....

[@ashdust9832]

wait they removed Mushu for the sake of the movie being more "historically accurate" but then they go ahead and give her superpowers? ...ok...

[@zachscarbrough2727]

And a poorly rendered Phoenix.

[@zachscarbrough2727]

Tabitha Monaco Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t the Phoenix also used by the Chinese in their mythology?

[@sierrajohnson9772]

@@zachscarbrough2727 only for the empress though

[@chaskatzman8015]

Probably didn't want blacks associated with the film.

[@AZodiacCancer]

@Tabitha Monaco Fenghuang was the Chinese equivalent of a Phoenix.

[@Ashley-nx4zg]

Love that you spoke about the “training scene” what I admired about Mulan in the cartoon was that she knew she wasn’t the strongest, but when we used the weights as a support to get her up the pole I thought “ya that’s totally possible” but with the live action she beats ALL THE MEN with her arms straight out carrying most likely 50lbs at least of water on either side. I don’t know about you but that seems pretty unbelievable to me. Although she has “magical” powers so I guess that’s just a free pass to be stronger than all the men.

[@hassandahiruado9783]

That training montage is the best part of the film.

[@yanivgalmor1747]

@@hassandahiruado9783 than the film is a complete disaster than

[@ERBanmech]

Because the animated test Mulan went through showed persistence and intelligence, while the live action Mulan tried to show her inherit superiority. Tip: only one of these is a relatable story mechanic.

[@mairuzo]

Hassan Dahiru Ado that was the case with the animated film too

[@Lilac_Lilith]

They didn't even follow their own rules when it comes to Chi/Qi. If the majority of the time, in their universe, men are the ones that cultivate chi then why is Mulan the only one using chi in the army? Shouldn't there have been several men in the army and among new recruits that could use chi? Why is Milan the one they ogle at when, statistically speaking, many of them should have been as good--if not better--than her at using their chi due to never being told to restrain it. Even though it doesn't quite line up with the way chi is used in Wuxia, Xianxia, and Xuanhuan media they could've still gotten a good story with Mulan struggling, helping, and getting help from her friends in the army while keeping in their universe's idea of chi. She could've used her problem solving, wit, and quick thinking to find ways to use the army's existing cultivation methods faster but just as effective so that she doesn't fall behind her peers. They could've shown her struggling to train her physical body to keep up with her growing cultivation; and her army friends taking extra time out of their days to give her more training because they've seen her pushing her cultivation more than should be needed, they want their friend to succeed and watching her be so determined pushed them to where what were just HER added training became all of their added training. And the witch could've been a really easy fix. The enemy hears word that China conscripted cultivators into the army, and out of fear and a desire to win they go to a powerful demon or spirit and form some kind of contract/deal with them or the leader of the enemy finds a piece of leverage over the spirit/demon and they end up working for the enemy. Boom, no witch. Just a demon or spirit doing what they mist with no real stance on either side. If you're gonna add fantastically elements then just fucking lean into it and at least make it interesting

[@MsApril1904]

This movie does not promote feminism, rather insults all the regular women out in the world who fight against all odds while being "ordinary". You say it is a movie for kids, honestly would you have your child watch it?

[@carljohan9265]

This is just the latest in a LOOOOONG line of garbage that I wouldn't want to show to any kids. It's quite concerning honestly, and I truly pity kids who are growing up right now because their mental health is at serious risk due to all this crap that is all around them in every medium, not just in fiction. I am not looking forward to seeing the combined costs of mental health care in 10 or so years. Sales of anti-depressants to young adults are already far to high.

[@drakke125Channel]

today's feminism basically does what you just described. It does the exact opposite of what they say they're fighting for, much like a lot of liberal leftist groups out there.

[@isaacbeeby2528]

@@carljohan9265 if you are so upset and concerned about what at the end of the day is just a movie and does not impact your life in any way whatsoever after you have finished watching it, then I think you're the one who needs to be on medication.

[@carljohan9265]

@@isaacbeeby2528 Can't you at least try to be original in your bait? Because you are so extremely obvious that it's no sport to identify your BS.

[@illarionbykov7401]

Feminism has 72+ different flavors, and the dominant flavor today demands movies like this.

[@buntado6]

The most baffling is how despite being a Mary Sue, she's actually more submissive than the original: -Saying she knows she must serve the emperor and not hugging him. OG didn't do that just to spite patriarchy, it was a genuine show of a grattitude to a fellow human being. -Getting her line of "you trust Hua Jin but not Mulan?" taken from her by her love interest. -In the end they don't show us if she accepts a place in the government, an insult even to the original poem. Of course, CCP can't tell it's people that not complying with every wish of the government can be a good thing.

[@esther8847]

Yes! Also in the animated movie Mulan speaks up when her dad accepts to go to war in front of everyone. In this new version, her mom tells her to stay and she stays. Completely agree!

[@rosesske2551]

@@esther8847 Not to mention, the ending basically says that only people with exceptional abilities (in her case magic) or skills can become great and people who cannot or don't have those abilities(like her sister) should just be compliant with whats been set out for them and not strive to be anything more.

[@esther8847]

@@rosesske2551 exactly!! Great point!

[@vito]

Disney really did not want you to see this review. Had to censor a lot of footage to get past their copyright blocks. Please SMASH THAT LIKE BUTTON so we can get this baby trending and destroy the mouse!

[@Ozpin4life]

Hey i just watched I agree with everything you say but there is also another problem I don't think you touched witch is the fact that in the credits Disney thanks multiple organizations in Xianjang China where they filmed some of the movie, the organizations are responsible and know for "reduaction" of Chinese Muslims its basically concentration camp so some research on it a little bit also love you stuff man keep doing what your doing you make funnies on the internet

[@TheLukebeast]

Destory the mouse! I love it

[@sleepyrowlet]

Mickey mouse is a greedy fat money sucker business rat now :|

[@juanmenjivar28]

I don't agree. Rey was a Mary Sue. Mulan isn't. We are told she has chi. We are shown she learned to control chi since she was a kid and we see her training by herself as a kid. However, She also needed to train to be a soldier despite her control of the chi. She was KILLED by the other character with powers. Bruce Lee trained by himself much of the time and came up with his OWN martial arts style. He was a human and didn't have any powers. So if a human in real life can do it , is it surprising to see a fictional character with powers training by herself to become better ? Also this is a different adaptation of Mulan. You may like it or you may not. You didn't. But that is not an argument for her being a Mary Sue. Ps. I totally agree with your analysis of the new Star Wars trilogy.

[@juanmenjivar28]

Also I don't agree with the last bit on your video. Not All super powered characters need to have a story about overcoming their weaknesses. If they are OP, then their journey has to be about something else and not their powers. IE. Superman is OP. His journey is about an invincible alien trying to live as a human and his struggle with that.

[@Matteus2109]

Ughhh, Disney. Why are your animated girls more compelling than your real life ones?

[@Sonofsun.]

Because anime is always the answer

[@somegoodsoup7008]

In the words of a weeb "2D is better"

[@markulyssestabasan3064]

@@somegoodsoup7008 As a weeb I agree

[@keshagriffin3375]

@Miguel Ramos I agree.

[@hilmiya3454]

I'd like but it's at 69 Someone ruin it plz

[@rustyshackleford17]

"We need more strong female characters in cinema" *Proceed to create some of the worst female characters since brazzers.*

[@JimankyGaming]

OOF SIZE LARGE

[@rainboweagle-o8b]

Every remake has been crap. I don't know why they keep doing it. There are so many good stories out there that they could adapt.

[@perrilewis180]

Hey at least porn can sometimes have a compelling story.

[@mldrew08]

Perri Lewis lmao

[@shenronded]

Mr. Biggs has a task for you to complete, Mr. Shackleford.

[@mariaakaannie6138]

It honestly just takes away from how empowering she was. The entire point was that she would get killed if they found out she was a woman, therefor she ran a huge risk which made her sacrifice for her father larger. Mulan isn't a superhero, that was the point. She proved that hard work and determination could get you anywhere. It was like what her father says about the lotus flower, it's a late bloomer but turns out more beautiful. It's a lesson of patience and not giving up when things are hard. That's why Mulan is cool! She was just a girl, but she persevered and she worked hard and smart.

[@arandomelite5448]

The original Mulan with the ghosts of the ancestors and dragons was a more realistic story than the new movie.

[@asian123205]

Ikr until we have phoenix and eagle that transform like wth 😑 😒 🙄

[@aaroncastro107]

It's like Chinese captain marvel. And honestly what did you expect, its Disney. The company thats been creatively bankrupt since 2010.

[@shr1mpsush1]

I feel like Zootopia was their last good movie before they fell ass first into these live-action remakes and the Star Wars sequel trilogy

[@LonesomeBossDaily]

Which is why I am not going to watch this movie. Why waste my time and money where I can go back to the much better animated version. Also why I prefer wonder woman movie (too bad it didn't make a billion) over captain mary sue-opps sorry marvel, which also set in the war, wonderwwoman left her home to fight this war teaming up with 4 side, Captain Li Shang is like captain Steve trevor (love interest) and the other three guys who have their own unique personality traits and quirks.

[@SpectreStatus]

Oh man.That's now the unholy trinity -- Rey, Captain Marvel, and Mulan. Lol

[@mortuitissedai2085]

At least marvel stayed good (apart from marvel obv.) If I was a betting man however, I’d bet that the beloved franchise of 12+ years died with endgame, and in future, we’ll be subjected to a shambling sjw corpse

[@mortuitissedai2085]

Captain marvel I mean

[@heraldyaxelevi8132]

"Magic." -Modern Disney Script writer, answering question about powerful MC.

[@AdoboSoGuud]

"Realistic" they say.... "respective to the chinese culture"

[@noname-kx4cu]

But no mushi That's going too far..

[@hmartinspliff]

10:40 Hey, don't worry! We will live, I guarantee it......because I, the ultimate badass, will protect you. Check it out....independently targeting particle beam phalanx, *FWAP!* Fry up half the city with this puppy. I got tactical smart missiles, phase plasma pulse rifles, RPGs, I got sonic electronic ball breakers! I got nukes, I got knives, sharp sticks.....you do *_not_* want to f**k with me!

[@abc314pi]

Low-key feels like "I'm NoT LiKe OtHeR GiRlS" the movie

[@VesperDoesStuff]

What's next? "I sWeAr I'm A nIcE gUy" the movie?

[@SingerofSongs91]

There's something I realized recently that really made me appreciate the scene where Mulan figures out how to climb the pole to the arrow (can't believe I never realized it before and this video only grounded that realization). It's established from the moment we meet Mulan that she is innovative and can see things from a different perspective, and that's her character throughout the entire movie. We first see her writing notes on her arm for what she has to say to the matchmaker. Then we see her tie chicken feed to her dog and ties a bone in front of him so he'll feed the chickens faster. It continues on and on: climbing the pole, aiming the cannon at the mountain, and luring Shan Yu to the top of the palace to blow him away. As he says, "let's think AROUND the problem". THAT is Mulan's character. She is imperfect and not up to the standard in her society, but she is willing to put her life on the line for her family and she uses her own wit to do it. She learns how to be true to herself and what she's capable of despite no one believing in her, and that's true strength. Mulan learns and grows. THAT is the story we love to see. THAT is the type of female character I personally love to love. Well done video essay. You pointed out everything about the original Mulan that is wonderful and makes Mulan herself an amazing female character done right.

[@Sarah.J.Jacobson]

Mulan: -tries its best to brown nose to China. -the movie is so terrible, China bans advertisements for it. Good luck getting back your $200 million, Disney.

[@queenofallmonkeys]

When you loot at the Chinese zodia wheel, the mouse's nose is deep up the pig's ass.

[@phousefilms]

Add to that they kiss ass of the Chinese government(including the concentration camps set up for Muslim refugees and the main actress supported police brutality on Twitter). It is failing so hard. I DL'ed this without paying and that makes me PROUD!

[@Killerbee4712]

@@phousefilms Lets not get into a political debate, but Im sure either 1. the main actress actually did support police brutality over rioter brutality or 2. forced by government to say that so she doesnt get cancelled

[@kaifenglin5888]

@Omega Zero actually its bot true, her family was just....rich and immigrate to the us long time ago

[@kongkong1364]

@Omega Zero you are the living embodiment of stupid is as stupid does

[@oscher88]

When they decided to cut Mushu we should've seen this coming...

[@gamehero6816]

DISHONOR ON YOU, DISHONOR ON YOUR COW!

[@flameshock1013]

@@waxdood Who knows? We might be surprised. I think that if done right, someone could actually make a good live action remake. All we need are good writers, directors, actors, etc.

[@asian123205]

Lol I love it

[@Capri_00]

@@waxdood the Jungle Book was just as good. To me anyway….

[@joeroganstrtshots881]

@@waxdood Scooby Doo live actions were good

[@youcanthandlemyname7393]

new mulans reasons for going to war are actually extremely selfish. old mulan did it to protect her fathers life but this mulan did it because she wanted to rebel which not only puts her life at risk but her entire family's life and their honor at risk. honor in ancient china was extremely important by the was as families who were deemed to have no honor would be treated like animles. she was essentially putting her entire family at risk for her own selfish desires where as the old mulan did what she did for purely selfless reasons.

[@markorajcevic5183]

Exactly! Old Mulan went to war knowing full well she's physically weak and untrained, it was an act of personal sacrifice so that her father would live, she left to die in his stead. New Mulan risks nothing, she already is the best of the best, she's basically escaping her old life to somewhere she's more comfortable. First Mulan was heroic because she faced meaningful challenges and overcame hardship and danger to rise up on top. New Mulan is not heroic, because she faced no hardship or meaningful adversity, she just has magic powers.

[@grandarkfang_1482]

Another way to put it is like this: Everything Mulan did in the original movie and sequel was done out of love for her family and the want to uphold the honor of her family. So when she is humiliated for the last time (when Shang tells her to hit the road), she relies on her strong will to prove to herself and her superiors that she is not a lost cause, she is not a weak link that will get endanger everyone else's lives, and most importantly of all, she will not allow her father's honor to be besmirched. Meanwhile, everything Mulan does in the remake is incredibly self-centered, because she is the hero chosen by the fate to save China from the evil sorceress. Also, great job Disney, at completely missing the point of having Shen Yu as the main antagonist of the film. The Huns were a terrifyingly powerful force that had taken Asia by storm, and a man like Shen Yu embodies this entirely. Actually, I don't care call him a 'man,' as he looks and acts more akin to a beast that has learned our human mannerisms, while also retaining its power and presence. And so, Mulan, while a strong woman, has to pit herself against beasts like Shen Yu and his army in order to not only uphold her father's honor, but to save China. Meanwhile, Shen Yu gets killed off by an arrow to the head in the remake, and we're stuck with his bird, who is a woman now.

[@emilycanfield2634]

I always thought that during the mountain scene that Shang sparing her was also even MORE dishonorable then killing her. He seemed pissed at her and not only can he NOT bring himself to kill her, I think part of him is like "you need to live with your dishonour". And 100% right about the Huns. Shan-Yu in the animated Mulan is literally a beast. It took me a few watches as an adult to realize it. Not only is Shan-Yu huge and muscular, but a lot of the other huns are as well. Shan-Yu literally smashes through doors with his fist and knocks down columns in the palace with a two handed swing of his sword. Also in the fight at the palace, its a brief thing but after Shan-Yu knocks out Shang. Mulan goes to pick up his sword to cut the rope and it looks like she struggles with it for a breif moment. So that just goes to show you how damn strong he really is. Disney should have either stuck with the Bird Witch, OR the Huns. Not both. Everyone who praises the movie claims the live action was "more realistic" when in reality its more fantastical then the original cartoon Disney version.

[@manofsesame3024]

Even the original tale about Mulan has nothing to do with saving China because it's a battle between 2 turk kingdoms in Mongolia.

[@hangha7016]

"she's preventing herself from being a complete Goku" had me click on that subscribe button Mulan is basically a Chinese Elsa now.

[@PrincessMavenKittyDarkholme]

Rey

[@nathanmoser8914]

Lol

[@ChaosSkye]

Mulan 1998 - Trained, perservere, and used her wits to defeat her enemies. Mulan 2020 - I'm a marvel superhero biatch!

[@EvlynArrow]

They may as well add Mulan to the MCU somehow. Maybe if she’s cyrogen- actually, never mind...

[@le3426]

Screenwriters need to stop thinking that writing a "female character" is different than writing a "character" 🤔

[@Percival917]

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[@nympseudo2096]

UNDERRATED COMMENT

[@timeshark8727]

These new "strong female characters" from Disney take the 'journey' out of the classic "hero's journey".

[@elongatedmanforever1252]

It makes them terrible.

[@dmunozkuster]

“Feminist” writers, “feminist” director; people who think that being perfect is the key to empowerment.

[@leximanning1407]

I’m glad you put feminist in quotes because I 100% agree that that’s not what the movement is about!!!! I’m so upset that this is the idea that Hollywood decided to run with!!!

[@leximanning1407]

Jorge De Burgos I would encourage you to read actual feminist scholars. Especially scholars of color before you make a judgment about a whole philosophy. Feminism is more than what you read on Twitter

[@leximanning1407]

Jorge De Burgos who have you read 🤔 genuinely curious

[@leximanning1407]

Jorge De Burgos what’s the history of the movement 🤔 I’m interested to see what in the hell could make you come to that conclusion

[@facelesstrader1351]

@@leximanning1407 the people of color things I getting annoying, it's putting everyone in boxes when u mention gender, race, color skin, etc. Why can't their intelligence and character be enough? The feminists movement of the 60s already won. They've achieved equality, and also because of technology, they're able to compete with men in any field they want. Women are privileged now, except in other countries. The feminist movement of today don't want equality anymore, they want even more special privileges. That's the core of the current movement.

[@TheSoundOfGeorgia]

I didn’t even really think about it until watching this, but you’re completely right about Mulan not being against the arranged marriage in the original. Given what happens in the rest of the film, I feel like I almost subconsciously retroactively added in that ‘oh she never wanted that’, but that was never the case. She was clumsy and worried about whether she could do it properly, but she was willing to do it.

[@Mysikrysa]

Well, arranged marriage was a normal thing back then, so it makes sense she wanted what the other girls wanted because she didn´t know there could be another option. Children aren´t dumb and can understand some traditions from the past don´t exist anymore. Mulan wanted to get married and she got more than potentionally unhappy arranged marriage - she found real love. Her journey to it was longer and more complicated but she earned it because of her qualities, not only because of her pretty face.

[@politicallycorrectredskin796]

It's not exactly as if arranging a marriage is inherently evil either. It makes sense from a survival perspective that the more wise parents find a marriage prospect who isn't completely useless, because young people are stupid and make unnecessary mistakes that often ruin their lives. If you are a man you want a kind woman you can trust, and if you are woman, at least for most of world history, you want a dependable man who will provide for your family. It's not complicated.

[@icecreamhero2375]

Bart Gets an F the classic simpsons episode. *Real version:* Bart will be held back to the 4th grade if he doesn't pass the test. He does his best to study but he is bad at it. He even prays for a snow day and he can't go out side and have fun he is stuck in doors studing, He barely passes by the skin of his teeth and gets a D-. *Mary Sue version:* *Bart:* Here Ms. Karbaapple I'm done I did the test in 2 seconds *Ms. Karbapple:* Wow they are all correct did you study *Bart:* Nope *Ms: Karbapple:* Well thats not a good moral do nothing and you come out on top *Bart:* Since there is no point to the plot any more I'm gonna stare at a wall for 21 minutes

[@yourfatboy5359]

*B R U H*

[@yourfatboy5359]

*B R U H*

[@XiaoFury]

No. Bart has magical CHI that gives him other worldly powers to ace tests without studying.

[@Cloutcommando]

*_YOU CAN'T TELL ME THOSE WINGS AREN'T SOME OC PHOTOSHOP GARBAGE AND A MULTI BILLION DOLLAR COMPANY PRODUCT._*

[@arkboi2145]

To paraphrase a quote from a famous Disney character: "Dishonor! Make a note of this: Dishonor on you, dishonor on your cash cow, dishonor on your whole company!" Lol. So I rated 2020's Mulan a 3.75/10. My family and I watched it on Sunday. It was decent and some parts were genuinely enjoyable. However, unfortunately, I think it has far more negatives going for it than positives I'm afraid (especially since my 6-year-old was so excited to watch it, but wound up walking away in the first 10 minutes). To start, this new "Mulan" is an entirely different story from the 1998 Disney animated classic or even the 6th Century Ballad of Mulan. Mulan was a heroic story of a young girl in Ancient China who, in order to bring honor and pride to her family, risked death and torture to keep her father safe. Taking her father's place in the war to save his life. She overcame obstacles that men, bigger and stronger then she could not. It never overshadowed or undermined men. It was a story of leadership, and putting the needs of others before your own. A story of doing the right thing, no matter the personal cost. In the end she tries to offer to her father the treasures she got from the emperor as gift to bring honor to their family only to find out that she herself was more precious to him than anything else. All while having a positive message about both sexes doing what was needed to be done. It's a story beloved by people of all ages and backgrounds. 2020's Mulan is more of a reimagined historical documentary than an actual Disney live-action adaptation. It's lost the magic that made it Disney. No heartfelt positive message. No comedy. No light-hearted interactions. No songs. No animal sidekicks. No Bisexual Le Shang. It's just a story about a historical Chinese figure, turned Mary Sue, being exceedingly monotone, uptight, and strict throughout a war who will fulfill her duty and "bring honor to us all" (China) by being a one-woman wrecking ball. It's obvious the movie tries exceedingly hard to be "realistic" in multiple aspects of the film. However, this Mulan was born with incredible Chi and godly natural talent and abilities, was a complete badbutt from the start, the fact that there is magic and sorcery in the film, and unnatural acrobatics that would absolutely require assisted rigging say otherwise. Especially since the Green Screen and CGI in this film are painfully obvious. Other than that, the movie tends to be slow-moving with dry and stale interactions from the cast. There are many awkward interactions that feel out of place. Lastly, I have to mention all of the negative publicity and acts behind this film and during the production of it. Especially the human rights crimes that were taking place in Xinjiang were video footage of hundreds of Uighur prisoners who were blindfolded, shackled, and shoved into busses headed for internment camps. The actress portraying Mulan, Yifei Liu, has been very public about siding against freedom and the people of Hong Kong by supporting the Hong Kong Police cracking down on protests. In the final credits of the film, Disney offers "special thanks" to eight government entities in Xinjiang where several "re-education" camps have been documented. The film also expresses thanks to the "Publicity Department of CPC Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomy Region Committee," the Chinese Communist Party's Propaganda Department in Xinjiang. Finally, just as a last show of toxicity surrounding this film, the film crew have allegedly filed a complaint regarding the films diversity issues and for being forced to take DNA tests to prove their "Asianness" because there have been complaints that the film is too "White" despite having an all-Asian cast. *Sighs*…Sorry, but Disney absolutely missed the mark. I don't think I'll be seeing this one again and I will be informing the rest of my family and friends about it. 2020's Mulan looks like it's been turned into a glorified propaganda piece for China. #Disney #WaltDisneyStudios #Mulan #BoycottMulan #Dishonor

[@woahhhmaithri]

Disgusting isn't nearly strong enough a word. Neither is appalling. On the bright side, your 6-year-old sounds like a smart kid.

[@SammEater]

The one thing that offends me more than the characters is how cheap everything looks for a multimillion dollar budget, the original animation is so cinematic and epic while the live action one looks like one of those shitty Scorpion King sequels that are made for the direct-to-DVD market.

[@darkart-mr8wu]

They need to do her real life story not wonder women. First mulan was raised by her father who spent 20 years in the army and got sent home after his leg was broken and ge took an arrow threw his lungs and lived. Then mulan grew up hunting for her family as was gifted with the bow and arrow. For her village where hunter gatherers or nomadic. He father trained her in martial arts ever since the day she was born. For sadly he saw many women rape or even just killed while being pregnant by the Huns. No the hole part of her taking her father gear is true. Because mulan was rich by her hunting skill and her family was better off then 80 of the rest of China 🇨🇳. For he father had medicine to treat his injuries but never fully recovered. Mulan took her father armor and his sword and left when another war broke out about 1673 years ago and all men where order into service. She bought a horse and a saddle from her home town. How many of you today can do this with your 💰. Now imagine that 1600 plus year ago.. She then got a tent and cooking gear and set off to boot camp a Journey. Took 90 days all by herself in a war turn Countryside and a ride without a scratch. On day one she stood out because of her martial arts skills. In a time WHERE many could not even afford a sword let alone a 🐎. She road in like a Samurai. Then quickly rose threw the rank for she on day 1 could easy kill with a sword and already mastered the bow and arrow and a spear for she hunted wild bore as a child. Then not much is known about her military career other then she made General in a long blooded war that last 13 years. She came back home after securing her release from the army and walk back into her home along with 20 of her male friend's who all where deadly bad asses. She went up stairs put on a dress as her family race home to see HER. She came back down and all her TROOPS shit them selfs when they learned all this time she WAS A WOMEN. That it her story WAS written down about 30 years after she LEFT the army. So yes she was real in a time of fog of war. No much is known after she left the core. Its amazing she kept her gender secret all that time four women were not allowed in the army so I'm guessing she must have look like Cris Cyborg and fought like her as well.

[@unknownguyindo4356]

So it's not immediately powerful then, she need time and experience to become that powerful and skillful. Not like this "Chi Superpower" Mary Sue Disney bullsh*t. Cultivation may look like a very powerful ability but the people who have it, must struggle first through trials and challenges to become powerful not immediately after they receive it.

[@olymolly3637]

This is wonderfully captured in the 2009's version of Vicky Zhao's Mulan, although they focused on the war with the Huns more instead of her upbringing. I'd love to see that younger part of her explored but it'd have to be a three hour movie if done today.

[@psyfi5428]

In our time, the "strong female character" is just a fad. I feel like modern movie writers are so afraid of being perceived as sexist by the general public that they put their female characters on this pedastal, turn her into a Mary Sue to make sure there is *no way* she could be considered inferior to anyone else in any way and - bam - she just got stripped of everything that could make her unique or interesting. Ironically, this process is the actual sexist thing to do. Think about it: These people believe that the only way to "empower" a female character is to give her traits typically associated with the male gender - physical power. As if a woman couldn't be strong in her own female way. No, she just has to be good at totally dominating her foes in a battle. Because apparently that's what counts to Hollywood writers as positive personality traits. Not strength of will, determination, the power to overcome your own fears, the ability to make friends easily, the ability to strategize or to think two steps ahead. Nothing inspiring like that. Nothing that a normal, real person could identify with. No, she just needs to be better than those dastardly men around her. What a cope. She doesn't gain her skills through work or by nature of her interests. It doesn't matter who she is. She is good at what she does because of her gender, not because of her character. And that is just insulting.

[@IncredibleFulk1]

100% this comment here

[@ffordegroupie4931]

Imagine how embarrassing it will be to look back in 20 years, "ughh remember when they thought the only female characters you could have were flawless all power-ful stronger than everyone else goddesses who show how inferior men are?"

[@The_Court_Poet]

People eat that up. My mum’s friends all say that they love the movie and that it’s soooo wonderful. It’s so disappointing to see this when it’s so objectively bad

[@Mysikrysa]

Yes. It is insulting and it also makes the movies boring. I avoid anything with female leads because the Mary Sueization of enterntainment got to the point when I automatically expect the movie will su*k if the main character is a woman. And I am a woman, a tomboish woman on top of that, so I should be the target audience.

[@Game_Erica]

Us: Disney, can we get a good Mulan like in the original? Disney: We have Mulan at home! Mulan at home: The live-action Mulan

[@MasticinaAkicta]

Modern Hollywood! You can't have a female be bad at things, require training or *gasp* GROW into a role. Instead they need to have in already in them and they need to kick ass. That will make a "Strong women" everybody loves that right? Right? Why are all of you watching the OLD movies and series instead of the stuff we are making!

[@jonnyboy4289]

This is leaving me concerned about how they're gonna handle Ariel in The Little Mermaid remake.

[@thanakonpraepanich4284]

If Bob Iger stay resigned the remaining live action princess films would have been canned. Now he is back in the post, God save Disney Princesses...

[@FaithfulofUltramar]

So we have China Woman 1984 B.C. and we will get Aqua Queen with Ariel. It’s gonna be terrible

[@mothermahapp5338]

They’re making her black, why not south East Asian? I’m SEA💁‍♀️ Just keep the original script and tell those sjw to fuck off plz Disney👄🙏🙏

[@facelesstrader1351]

You ain't getting Ariel. They casted a black actress, when there's uproar about it, Disney says she's a different mermaid.

[@FaithfulofUltramar]

Faceless Trader so she will be Sha’Nariel or A’Real. Her dad will be the Substitute Teacher lol

[@yeetymon3252]

as a human being, i don't want a character who is strong because they are female *I want a character who is strong and happens to be female.*

[@feliciasmoon3323]

Is that a quote from the KZbinr Dr. Shayn? Because i heard these exact words in a video from him about female characters in Movies. Sorry if i am wrong.

[@yeetymon3252]

Felicias Moon yeah im probably not the only one who has said this, as i probably saw it on some video and typed it here!

[@d1nsumd1n42]

Well said 👏🏻

[@yourfatboy5359]

@@feliciasmoon3323 wait i thought it was from filmento he said You don't write a female character you write a character that happens to be a woman

[@feliciasmoon3323]

@@yourfatboy5359 this also could be but I've heard this the first time in a video from Doctor Shayn.

[@SunlightGwyn]

Anakin Skywalker was the literal chosen one and even he was vulnerable kid that needed years of training to become an unstoppable badass. Same goes for Aang from Avatar. Live Action Mulan is just a superhero from birth.

[@shaykhmhssi3246]

I actually can't believe how much of a mary sue they made mulan. Like even characters people commonly call mary sues aren't actually mary sues. Korra from the avatar sequel series, she can bend elements at a young age, but then she still spends years mastering them, and then struggles to deal with political issues and her own trauma. It's not that hard to make someone a skilled character and have them struggle.

[@aceofswords1725]

In short, this new Mulan is a sociopath, like Ray incidentally. And disney truly believes that this is what a hero is, and what we should all look up to. Tells you all you need to konow about that company and the general state of mainstream media and entertainment industry.

[@andrewhan1927]

why sociopath?

[@dikon0172]

Andrew Han because they are in a complete egocentric view, relationship to other people is just functional, mostly every other character is seen as obstacle. Ask yourself a question, do you believe any positiv feeling, like love or friendship of Rey, Dr Who, the new Star Trek female Leads or Mulan? Have you seen the interview with Daisy Ridley about the changing of Reys backstory? You see a normal human, with a clear relationship to the person she talks to. None of that is in her role as Rey, she is complete fine with herself and she interacts really rare with other people, she is forced to, accept the relationship with Finn. That made her a sociopath, ( that doesen‘t made her a psychopath, that is something differen’t) but I am pretty sure, when Rey came back to the desert, she couldn’t care less about all the other resistance „friends“. (Quite difficult to subscribe a psychological case in a foreign language, I hope you understand my discription) @Ace of swords, pretty accurate coment about the state of mind in the headquarters of big media company’s.

[@kendra_t]

There's no character growth for modern heroines. They all have the same story: "She's already awesome but just doesn't realize HOW awesome she is because she's being oppressed." Can't relate. I'm average. I want to be inspired by heroes who work hard and struggle and earn their glorious moment of awesome. Give a lady a proper character arc. Please!

[@sarahsushel7067]

I don’t understand why Disney in 2020 couldn’t have men dress up as women to get past the enemy in a clever way? How is that offensive to anyone, I’m genuinely curious...

[@SlapstickGenius23]

Disney is humped on and off by the CCP, of all things, for the lack of a better word available.

[@chrisrudolf9839]

Probably because some stupid SJWs would start a flame war in the internet accusing them to make fun of crossdressers and transsexuals. Or to make fun of women in general when they show the soldiers to clumsily try to act girly in a cliché way.

[@ExtremeWreck]

Because SJWs hate femboys.

[@vloggerbonakid6178]

@@chrisrudolf9839 Oh,Of couse! Because Disguising yourself as the opposite gender and using those advantages of that gender to save the city is now considered an insult to Transsexuals! Because *That* is clearly more important than it being a clever solution around the problem! I will note that the next time I see a couple of soldiers disguising as women to save our city in an upcoming war!

[@chrisrudolf9839]

@@vloggerbonakid6178 I think from the wording of my original post it is quite clear that I myself do not think that way. But I suppose that is the general concern with such a scene that made Disney cut that indeed clever tactic from the story. It's less the crossdressing as such though and more the silly comedy that used to come with it in movies of the 20th century. If you watch the original Mulan animated movie, there are indeed some cringeworthy gags in that scene when the soldiers clumsily try acting like "girly girls".

[@劉嘉琪-d6k]

I don’t even want to go watch this movie anymore , people around the world hates it, my whole Chinese community hates it, it just wasn’t a good movie, of course we find some cultural mistakes made in this movie, but the story itself is too terrible we don’t even care about that anymore!! That’s how bad this is... The Mulan poem is where all of this originated, in this old and beautiful masterpiece of Chinese literature, it depicts a young brave loving girl, who defies the law in order to save her father,(her brother was too young for this), she fought a war for more than a DECADE, so many people have died along the way , but she came back with victory at last, the emperor offers wealth and position as rewards, she turned it down only wanting to go home, and only at the very very last, when she is finally back home, she wore dress and put makeup on again,her fellow soldiers are the few people who found out about this, and they were shocked(they never noticed, because gender is never a restraint for you, and it cannot stop anyone from doing great things (the 1998 version is one of the best movie base on this story but this one is just pure disappointment

[@EveTheRaviolo]

from what I heard chinese people also hated the animated mulan

[@Ari-bs1hb]

@@EveTheRaviolo a few of the reviews from chinese people i have recently read dislikes the movie more than the animated one.

[@luislee3247]

@@EveTheRaviolo Not really, one of the popular tv adaption in 1999 even featured an original character based on Mushu.

[@ambroseburnside1950]

Some people told that I shouldn’t regurgitate other people’s opinions without trying for myself. I laughed my ass off when they told me to watch Mulan 2020. There’s no way that I’m gonna waist $30 just to take half of my brain away

[@Losshe]

@@EveTheRaviolo On Douban(a Chinese movie/reviewing site), 1998 animated Mulan has a score of 7.8/10, and this new one is at 4.7/10 last time I checked

[@solarsailer4166]

I really liked the original idea of Mulan. A girl wanting to fight, cuts her hair, and disguises herself as a boy so she can join the fight. There is a lot of great action and tension in that alone. Why did we love the female characters in GOT (when it was book-based, i.e good)? Because they were at a decided disadvantage in their world due to gender. If new characters are OP, where is the tension? Where is the risk, the sacrifice? For the most part, women don't have physical strength or fighting skills to over-power the average man (yes, my best mate's ex-army ranger wife could probably kill anyone) so what do women use to fight? Their mind. Their wits. What is wrong with acknowledging women's natural strengths and celebrating these? This films seems like heavy-handed pandering. Disney's been having problems marketing to certain parts of the world. I'm wondering how this will turn out financially and if there will be blow back for an obvious cash-grab ploy. How well do Mary Sue's market around the world? SW Mary Sue didn't. I guess we'll find out. I hope you didn't pay Disney twice, Vito!

[@vito]

They got rid of the haircut because Chinese men had long hair back then anyway

[@solarsailer4166]

@@vito I know, thanks for pointing that out. But in the original film I saw it as a symbol (despite the inaccuracy) that she was willing to give up beauty and a girl's life to go on this fight.

[@brianaguilar8283]

@@solarsailer4166 at least that’s a change that’s justified. Mulan cutting her hair would be redundant. Everything else sucks though. And GOT isn’t a good example anymore because they fucked up all their characters by the time the finale came around

[@solarsailer4166]

@@brianaguilar8283 Yeah, it's fair on the hair. however, I can say with certainty, that fighting with long hair is a disadvantage if you don't tie it back! I do HEMA and my hair is ited back for that! I get it that it looks cool and sexy, but I've got too much experience that I just cringe at the sight of it. As for GOT, I've just blocked S 6-8 from my mind. Like SW, just 'cause it ended badly, doesn't mean the beginnings cannot be appreciated. They're not taking that from me! Cheers, mate.

[@gonnegottkehaskamp1667]

Wait, the original idea of Mulan was not that she wanted to fight. She wanted to save her father from being drafted imto the army, where he would be killed. So she went in his stead, knowing very well that she can't fight. But she prevailed through wits and determination. She doesn't WANT to fight. She does it to save her father.

[@TheSameYellowToy]

I'm a feminist, and this movie sounds downright horrible. Female empowerment doesn't mean "Woman who's a flawless badass because she just is for some reason". Cartoon Mulan was empowering because she was ordinary and flawed, but was able to train and become strong, and she was also able to think outside of the box. That's what made her such an interesting character, because she was showing that anybody can become strong and overcome obstacles with enough dedication. Also, the reason they got rid of Shang doesn't even make sense. Shang never made any advances on Mulan when she was still in the military, he waited until she was out of the military to make his move. Sure, it would have been inappropriate if he were shooting his shot at her while he was still her superior because of the power imbalance...but there was nothing inappropriate at all about him making his advances on her once he no longer had authority over her. Whoever made the decision to get rid of Shang doesn't understand what workplace/military sexual harassment or the ethics in dating in the workplace are.

[@soraalolanvulpix7224]

Everyone: Ew Rey is a Mary Sue Disney: Aight, time to add one more to the list.

[@sleepykitty8918]

Disney: This is what it means... To go further...BEYOND! HHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH!!! Super Sue 3

[@PlanetZoidstar]

Don't forget Captain Marvel.

[@soraalolanvulpix7224]

@@PlanetZoidstar Yup

[@SefniAsheforr]

I keep hearing people defending it by saying "but it's an adaptation of the Ballad!" But that isn't an excuse for bad character writing. I mean, there's already been many more accurate adaptations of the Ballad, many FROM CHINA. This is a DISNEY version, if you want a realistic adaptation of an Ancient and/or Middle Age mythology then Disney is not the place to expect that. Back in the 90s Disney butchered the Heracles/Hercules mythology, but I've never given a fuck because it's a Disney adaptation that I find to be very fun and compelling. Greek and Roman mythology (and history) is very important to me personally, it's a field of study I am experienced and in love with. Yet, I love Disney's take on the tale of Hercules; it's a very unique fusion of Hercules and Clark Kent combined with some really creative decisions like Gospel music. It's not loyal to the period or mythology at all, but I wouldn't expect Disney of all companies to produce a more direct adaptation of such violent, sexual, and adult content. It was the same with the animated Mulan; a very original take on the ballad that oozed with Disney flair and creativity. Not to mention that they actually wrote Mulan better than the ballad and improved upon her hero's journey arc. Who doesn't love I'll Make a Man out of You? Hercules did a similar thing, as his story is much more tragic and brutal in Greek Mythology, so they gave him an original character arc based around becoming a true hero. Like new Mulan, Hercules is born with spectacular powers. Yet, he still had to train for YEARS to become a capable hero and not just a clumsy kid with super strength. That says a lot about where he started and who he became by the end; his training, trials, and tribulations made him grow and become a better man. In fact, it was something that his powers had no control over that made him a true hero. He defeated Hades and became a god not through physical strength or individual glory, but by sacrificing himself to save someone else. He was willing to throw his soul away forever to save Meg, and that is what completed his journey, not just being a strong independent badass. Whereas the new Mulan was always perfect and just needed to show it.

[@ntfoperative9432]

Yeah especially since in the ballad she was still executed even after saving all of China

[@vito]

Don't adapt ancient Chinese legends. They aren't good stories.

[@lowearthsurfer]

@@vito omega-oof

[@megabuster3940]

@@vito I speak from experience. I live in East Asia and had to study Classical Chinese literature in high school. It fucking blows.

[@laserbeampussydestroyer6279]

@@megabuster3940 Ancient stories usually depend on a good storyteller to adapt them in a way that resonates with their specific audience. You know, like Mulan (1998).

[@palmer1495]

OG Mulan Teaches you you will not be the best at everything, you might be told you have no talent for something, but if you never give up and find your own strength you will succeed. New Mulan Teaches you just be born talented or you will never be a main character.

[@kingbash6466]

I don’t know whose crazier: Vito for posting a Mulan review in the middle of the morning, or me for being up this early watching the premiere?

[@ntfoperative9432]

Im right with you dude

[@davidjames2802]

I loved it 🤷‍♂️

[@Imperialstorm03]

It's like their inspiration for this movie was Rey from Star Wars lmao!

[@Ramsey276one]

The new bad Character archetype: ReiRey! XD (Note: REI is Japanese for ZERO. I'M sure you get the other reference...)

[@kingbash6466]

Honestly wished more scriptwriters took notes from Mrs. Frisby from the Secret of NIMH. She isn’t a great character because she’s the strongest, smartest, or even bravest; she’s a great character because in-spite of those aforementioned facts, she’s willing to put herself through hell so that her family will be safe.

[@dominicviner6619]

This story for the most has been around for a grip

[@icecreamhero2375]

Pixars 22 rules of storytelling a great hero is admired more for their failures than their sucesses. That rule is very close to my heart. Its good to never give up even if you fail at something over and over again. I guess this movie forgot that LOL. People complain about superman being OP but he has Kryptonite and he died in Batman v Superman.

[@Mysikrysa]

Superman is also so OP he had to hold himself back to not kill someone accidentally every time some stupid kids bullied him when he was a young boy. To be too OP can be blessing and curse at the same time.

[@BlancoDevil]

Letter from a Uyghur, "I heard fighting outside my extermination camp and I thought we were being saved, but it was just Disney, ensuring my death."

[@thetruestar6348]

Dont forget they got themselves censoref by the China media lol

[@otre3947]

It's so awful, evil and horrific. CCP China is the new Nazi Germany. CCP truly needs to go down . And Disney and others that were accomplices to CCP, need to be punished.

[@woahhhmaithri]

Where can we read this letter?

[@MultiCklee]

Yup. Tell that to Jamal Kashoggi's family. United States is a hypocrite country. Talk about human rights but when their interest are at stake, u can kill all u want and they will still supply u with the weapons

[@MultiCklee]

@@otre3947 cccp is not nazi germany. Don't be swayed by the west's ulterior motives. Yes, I agree china is not as free as other countries with lots of censorship and restrictions. But look at how China has progressed over these last 20 years. Hundreds of millions of people have been lifted from poverty. Technologically , they are so advanced now. In china, your capitalist dream can come true if you work hard. Millions are now USD millionaires. Life is good for them. Is is never easy to rule china with over a billion population who generally are recalcitrant citizens. A nearest comparison of a similar size country is India. Look at how India has progressed compared to China. India is a democratic country adopting the British Westminster system. Look how backward they are compared to China. The British didn't do much for India all these centuries of governing them, only knew how to pillage their natural resources. India to this day is a mess.....Never listen to the west. They are hypocrites. Talk about human rights but when their interest is at stake, u will see the true colors of these democratic nations.

[@JohnSoapMacTavish-tb6pk]

Disney is dead *Period*

[@Muzical-Man]

John Soap MacTavish they screw themselves so many times that they lose so much money every time. Classic

[@UMBChannel2019]

NFL is Dead Too Period

[@thanakonpraepanich4284]

@@UMBChannel2019 Take the number. They are too busy cremating NBA's corpse. By the way, I consider the league dead when the network TV no longer buy their broadcast rights. When would be the first year none of the four carrying NFL, NBA and perhaps no MLB too?

[@Muzical-Man]

Noonien Soong Jr I’ve heard the phrase “too much of a good thing”. People sometimes get tired of watching something with the same elements of the first movie. Also some directors and writers make poorly written movies just because they maybe try to forget the past of earlier movies

[@LuigiTheItalian]

To be fair, yes, Rey is a mary-sue in Star Wars, but at least you can see that she's grown up alone as a scavenger so that's why she good at defending herself with her stick weapon, and when she first came in contact with the force when she touched Luke's lightsaber, she wanted nothing to do with it and ran away. She had struggles and she overcame them. Not Mulan.

[@LuigiTheItalian]

@Elisa Castro "someone can be a mary sue and still have struggles" thats exactly what I said. Mulan had no struggles in this movie

[@elongatedmanforever1252]

Her struggles never were overcomed.

[@mrpro538]

Tbh, even with the LUDICROUS interrogation scene, I enjoyed her un Ep7, *only in Ep7*

[@Marsssbaby]

Mulan is my favorite Disney princess because I related to her more, she wasn’t girly, she was more of a Tom boy and her journey for taking her father place to save his life was amazing! The training montage is the best, and Mulan our in the work, but also it showed that her friends as well had flaws too! But also the fact that she was strong and smart and still had a love interest in Shang and they felt equal NATURALLY was great too! They needed each other a worked TOGETHER! They both had flaws and they had their own individual arcs that brought them together in the end. She earned the respect of her peers because she worked just as hard as them, Mulan taught me about hard work and that you don’t have to wear dresses and have a Prince Charming, you can be smart, athletic, strong, and be one of the boys as well, and still fall in love. Basically be so good they can’t deny you, but put in the work to get there. If that makes sense.

[@mightymight24]

But what I like the 1998 Mulan is she doesn't have to be hyper masculine to bring honor to her family (like whenever there is a war/problem, she uses her wit and creativity to solve the problem and doesn't resort to physical strength to solve her problems). Yes, Mulan isn't your typical 'girly' female protagonist but she isn't scared to embraced her feminity either to be called 'strong'. And I think that's empowerment. Like a woman doesn't have to be completely act like a 'man' to be called 'strong'. Because telling young girls to act as a man and not really embracing the traits they originally have and just be yourself to be called strong/worthy isn't a good lesson to give.

[@Marsssbaby]

Ee Katrina I 100% agree! It wasn’t about trying to use brute force as strength but your mind! Everything you said hit the nail on the head.

[@plantemor]

Can I say something that might be kinda mind blowing to some ppl? I was a little girl in the 90s and I LOVED playing with Barbie dolls. I owned an Esmeralda doll, a Phoebus doll, a Quasimodo doll (yes there actually was a Quasimodo Barbie doll) and I owned Shang and Mulan. I saved up for Shang and had the owner of the local toy store hold on to his last Shang doll until I could pay for him. Shang and Mulan became my main Barbie dolls that I played with. I especially loved shang because he had long hair and ive always loved men with long hair. Before Mulan and Shang were my main dolls it was Esmeralda. I loved these dolls so much and I acted out long convoluted stories with my sister who had her own esmeralda doll. I also remember owning a Pocahontas doll at some point. I'm white as snow and yet I loved playing with these dolls because of what they represented. Mulan was a lot like I felt as a kid. I played like a boy and dressed like a boy. Esmeralda was the woman I wanted to grow up to be. Someone who is kind to others and don't judge them for what they look like on the outside and who is true to her values even when facing adversity. Someone who is not too petty to help people out who technically are at a better advantage than herself and someone who is willing to have her prejudices challenged. Mulan made me feel that who I was, was valid and that it was okay to struggle as long as you keep fighting. That is why I loved those dolls. I do not think I at any fucking point in my entire childhood thought about the fact that I wasn't playing with white, blond dolls that looked like me. I didn't care because it wasn't what they looked like that mattered to me. It was who they were on the inside. It seriously baffles me that some people today think that diversity didn't exist when we were kids. I feel like a fucking alien in this world sometimes. I honestly think Phoebus was the only white, blonde and blue eyed Barbie doll I ever owned. Lol

[@alvirfrancisco3691]

That's a nice story. Refreshing. And o yeah when I wanted to become batman when I was a child I didn't thought of being white first despite being Asian.

[@jayzenstyle]

@@alvirfrancisco3691 same here. Asian too, who wanted to become Batman.

[@silencio00]

Congratulations! You understand that identity politics and representation are fallacy.

[@plantemor]

@@alvirfrancisco3691 can't blame you for wanting to be Batman. He is my favourite super hero ♡

[@DeistPaladin]

It's a common trait of the Mary-Sue/Marty-Stu trope, that the one "flaw" they have to overcome in their story is realizing how great they are and coming to terms with their greatness and go on to their great destiny. If that's the supposed driving force of the story, you may be looking at a Mary-Sue/Marty-Stu character.

[@LiveLucidly]

YES VITO, we need another in depth video about how bad this movie is. I tried to watch this piece of shit and I couldn't get through the first 10 minutes without turning it off and throwing in the OG Mulan that I have had on disk since before I was born. I will make sure I never see this full movie, Disney is really selling out lately, it's ridiculous. Thanks for making my night with this upload, I will be around for the next one. You should do a review on The New Mutants. I would love to see it. Or an in depth review of The Avatar(not The Last Airbender). That would be even better. Have a good Thursday everybody.

[@LiveLucidly]

Meme Unit Of Law & Order Nah thank you 👍

[@wny488]

The original animated movie has much more soul, it was charming. This one feels like it's just going through the motions.

[@falnesioghander6929]

I have never seen something unite sjws and anti-sjws like this movie has.

[@socialmoth4974]

They had lost me at "no mushu". The Mary Sue aspect cemented it.

[@LazyDeath666]

I didint even reached the mushu part... They lost me at chi, then killed me when they gotten rid of granda and cricket... The two originals that gave mulan confidence at the start and the only ones who believes at her from the start. In the original anyway lol.

[@MultiCklee]

She is not a Mary Sue. She trained hard since she was a little kid. Unlike the cartoon, where just a session of being in the army can make her invincible

[@socialmoth4974]

@@MultiCklee She is in that she has no flaws. What is her weakness?

[@MultiCklee]

@@socialmoth4974 I'm not defending the movie. I don't like it too . But is just the part on the mary sue , I think we should give her credit for the wushu training since young. Of course, the witch is a bit far fetched , transforming into a flock of birds etc

[@socialmoth4974]

@@MultiCklee Yes, I agree with that part. She is shown training in the opening scene. :)

[@eliaskountouris4214]

Don't forget to mention that the witch person is literally Darth Vader. They stole half the movie from star wars.

[@jzayas5698]

No, I am your mother.

[@grishnakh4509]

The witch is also a Mary Sue

[@brianaguilar8283]

Is the witch her mother?

[@jzayas5698]

Nah man it was just a joke based on what he said about the character being based off DV.

[@iamthesenate5769]

Did someone mention Vader? That filthy traitor?!

[@jthm419]

Child: Mom I want to be a Feminist like Mulan. Mom: You can be a Feminist at home. At Home: Mulan's sister.

[@saladcena2186]

Any sensible person: Who premieres something at 3 in the morning!? Vito: Oh boy 3am!

[@SPCBROWN]

Who needs sleep.

[@PatrickSilent]

At least Amy is a sensible person.

[@solarsailer4166]

I think he's still awake. :P

[@zoltanperei4789]

Vito uploads for the Europeans.

[@PatrickSilent]

@@zoltanperei4789 His Italian blood sings to him.

[@nlatimer]

I just realized that Captain America: The First Avenger is a Mulan remake

[@laserbeampussydestroyer6279]

In WWI they called the Germans "The Huns"

[@colliric]

...... Want me to let you in on a little secret? James Cameron's Avatar is a remake of Pocahontas..... IN SPACE!!!!

[@Miki-jn4vr]

I feel like they were trying to make the theme just "oooh but ya gotta be tRuE tO yOURseLf" and just failed drastically to do so.

[@ruthreyesmoreno4670]

Disney’s woke movies are proving to be the missing most of the point.

[@andysee6996]

I get the feeling that there's at least one person at Disney who thinks that a female character with flaws is inherently misogynist.

[@frankdux3605]

And she shares the same initials as Kim Kardashian....

[@guilhermepalombo3355]

@@frankdux3605 i see what you did there.

[@ffordegroupie4931]

Considering the large number of them they have crapped out in recent years, it's probably more than just one.

[@gabefuller5212]

Ohhhhhhhh there’s way more than one.

[@CKMLMA8]

They literally had to just remake the animated version into a live action and that's it. It would've been fine.

[@sketchyssk8shop]

Has anyone else noticed that disney has ruined everything they touch for the past 15 to 20 years?

[@icicle_ai9748]

Marvel was good till captain marvel :/

[@sketchyssk8shop]

@@icicle_ai9748 sure visually they were good and still are but, story wise they suck. Seems like they spend too much time and money on effects instead of acting and a plot

[@icicle_ai9748]

@@sketchyssk8shop true

[@AveryScarlet]

I know she technically didn't fight much with a sword in the original, but this movie was just- Look, I was fine when they chose to exclude Mushu. Why? There is no way they could properly give our favorite guardian dragon a realistic look without making it look funky, especially if they try and have the voice direction feel similar to Eddie Murphy. That was fine. Then everything else happened. Let's be honest, we didn't memorize much of the characters because their personalities were all generic. There wasn't much uniqueness at all. Aside from Mulan, I forgot the names of some of the other characters. I even forgot the name of her sister!

[@someidiotwithafryingpan3752]

How believable is it that the only name I knew by the end was Mulan's?

[@xolang]

and if she were not the main character, I would've forgotten her name as well. she's unbelievably forgettable there.

[@lnsflare1]

In all fairness, I forget the names of my real life sisters, though mostly through deliberate repression.

[@iamyuheismi920]

Mulan had a sister?

[@akmal94ibrahim]

I think that's the actual reason they don't have Mushu in. Because he would be difficult to animate into the movie properly. Not this "it's not historically accurate" bullshit when they also have witches and magic

[@JaggedBird]

This movie pissed me off. The 98 version's animation was stylised, it was fun, heartwarming and very well written with fleshed out characters! THIS HOWEVER, is a DeviantART version of her! Only difference is 'good art, bad conscept'. There's no character! It's dull At least with Star Wars' Raye, she has a bloodline and did somewhat grow up around these things (and yes still is a Mary Sue I'm not questioning that, there's just at least a reason for some of her skills), this isn't anything with any reason! They bastardised the original story and that's why I'm so angry. Why does she have magic? Where's Mushu? Where's the teamwork? So dumb.. I mean for fuck sakes, Disney you're getting worse. The only good remake they've done with this is Jungle Book; the original 54 version was an hour of filler, least that one fleshed out shit and kept close to the original. The biggest crime of Mulan 2020? *ITS BORING.*

[@LouKelevraSlack]

Yez, destroy this monstrosity like you did The Last Jedi. This has to stop.

[@4xdblack]

This makes me wanna watch the original Mulan.

[@ravenwhiteduck6460]

Same

[@9tailjeza]

do it, but don’t pay disney

[@Rafa-Silva-Alt]

Do yourself a favor and watch the original over and over again. I saw in the theaters back in the day when I was a child and I fondly remember it. Avoid this new one at all costs, and if possible points its flaws everywhere.

[@sonicdash9652]

Gonna pirate it.

[@DrRyan82994]

Gotta get the white box vhs tape out

[@HawkinaBox]

How did they not know she was a girl? Her voice is so high that anyone could question it, especially in that time period.

[@notheretoargue2885]

I think that she was probably recruited as a teenager (in the original 6th century BC ballad she's at war for decades) so her having a high pitched voice would've camouflaged well among the other teenagers

[@NutpuffTheWolf]

She STILL looks feminine

[@Losshe]

@Cherry Mae Raviz I'm Chinese and I've seen this actress for over ten years. I can tell you that she's a terrible actress, and most Chinese people think that too. Still can't act after 15 years of experience. She's just famous because she's pretty (according to the general public)

[@cykurosaki1337]

Disney: Women can’t be seen as weak!!

[@p47_thunderbolt39]

Talk about unrealistic standards for women

[@5erase]

@@p47_thunderbolt39 Right? xD

[@saddlerrye6725]

And by the way, working in a team, or falling in love, or being polite to others are all signs of weakness.

[@everydaybodybuilding2282]

I’m just glad Disney won’t film in Georgia because of pro life laws but they’ll film this movie in a country with concentration camps.

[@anonymouslyanonymous6931]

Preston Cormick progressive towards what?

[@MonteKristof]

Well... concentration camps aren't pro-life, so that's logic!

[@shelmmii9425]

Such huge hypocrisy yet people look over it.

[@darkmistico]

@@anonymouslyanonymous6931 progressive towards the MONEY

[@thanakonpraepanich4284]

And they threw away lots of Zhinjiang desert footage to reshoot on green screen make it looks crazier.

[@MushroomEater64]

This is reasons why cartoon and live action doesn't mix.

[@Launchpad05]

Roger Rabbit would like a word with you.

[@MushroomEater64]

@@Launchpad05 Lmao XD

[@MushroomEater64]

@@Launchpad05 At least Roger Rabbit was a good one-

[@Launchpad05]

@@MushroomEater64 It'll always be superior to 'Mulan 2020', 'Captain Marvel', 'Disney Star Wars', and all the tween crap on Disney Channel.

[@MushroomEater64]

@@Launchpad05 Preach-

[@giuliamingotti9323]

no. that's it. i'm so fed up with disney.