Mulan Was Bamboozled - Let Me Explain

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MULAN (1998):
To save her father from death in the army, a young maiden secretly goes in his place and becomes one of China's greatest heroines in the process.
Directors: Tony Bancroft, Barry Cook
Writers: Robert D. San Souci (based on a story by), Rita Hsiao (screenplay by) | 29 more writers somehow
Stars: Ming-Na Wen, Eddie Murphy, BD Wong, Pat Morita,
MULAN (2020):
A young Chinese maiden disguises herself as a male warrior in order to save her father.
Director: Niki Caro
Writers: Rick Jaffa (screenplay by), Amanda Silver (screenplay by), Elizabeth Martin, Lauren Hynek, The Chinese Gov
Stars: Yifei Liu, Donnie Yen, Li Gong, Jet Li, Jason Scott Lee, Yoson An, Tzi Ma, Ron Yuan, Soon-Tek Oh
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[@shannahbaudelaire]

Changing Mulan to a Chosen One story instead of a regular woman who works hard to save her family is a major theme change and I didn't like it.

[@Rose-xm4og]

That’s a western culture lol. Not Asian. Asian culture is about hard work and perseverance.

[@starscreamslouboutinheels4070]

Yeah, I remember feeling so moved as a little girl watching the old animated Mulan. This new one is just a slap in the face; everything about it is just so poorly conceived and there's no takeaway from this film other than "you can be as competent as a man, but only if you were born special".

[@bobbymarr1297]

I love that about the older Mulan movie. She's clever and hardworking. She goes from being useless in training to skilled through hard work and determination and that's why everyone respects her. In the end she's not a badass, she causes the avalanche by being clever and tricks the badguy to win. She never goes out and fights 50 guys that are stronger and have more training and experience, she's far too realistic for that.

[@shannahbaudelaire]

It goes from a story about empowering women to a special girl "that isn't like the other girls" and that's is why she is empowered.

[@adys6185]

Mulan was the chosen one ☝️

[@ralphemerson869]

That awkward moment when an animated movie from the late 90's is more empowering to women than the efforts of 2020.

[@maxiemus5]

IKR, even with the song “be a man” (which is high key still a bop), the 90s version was still more progressive

[@onuhrita5009]

Exactly... I love the animation... It was powerful and moving! It made me cry even as an adult... This was just annoying =

[@lordblazer]

the 90s did a lot for diversity in media and representation of minorities, and women. It has since then regressed really badly.. Though it's more because there's a white nationalists backlash, and people tend to be digging into bullshit conservative ideologies worldwide again. Why? Simple: conservatism = good moral values and traditions. Traditions are good. So let's go back to treating people like shit right? like the good ole days... This really irks me how easy people fall prey to backwards thinking.

[@Shadowcam00]

They turned Mulan into a Jedi. She's not special because of her perseverance, problem-solving skills, or creativity like in the animated film; she's special because she was born with a high midichlorian count.

[@drmeduimant5066]

I... What happened to this comment selection?

[@Aryan-bk4vv]

@Boo Babylon I already know how to do kataras hair loops 😂🙄 go away

[@Monie71793]

@@drmeduimant5066 😩😂💀💀

[@NoName-st2jl]

@@drmeduimant5066 don't ask the question you don't want the answer to

[@lavenderskye7077]

In this case it’s super bad because she’s only special because of her yang aka male energy. That’s not female power- that’s dismissing women unless they’re able to ‘be like a man.’

[@crazym1me]

"Boy is built like Markiplier" I spit my coffee.

[@tanujoundhakar28]

I WAS SEARCHING FOR THIS COMMENT

[@wonhoscake1214]

They tried to change Mulan for “cultural accuracy” but they made her a superhero, smh. There is no such thing as “chi” in the original legend. Mulan is a legend about a normal girl protecting her family through hard work and perseverance. There is nothing that sets her aside from the rest. After a decade of fighting, the emperor asked her if she wanted power, wealth or fame. She said she just wanted to go home to her family, wear her old clothes and put on rosey makeup. The legend was to show girls that anyone can be Mulan, she isn’t the chosen one, and they can protect their family just as much as a man can so they don’t have to hide behind men’s backs. It shows girls that they can be their own Mulan and she is us. Changing Mulan from an ordinary girl to a superhero was a terrible idea

[@siimpl3anita]

exactly!! i wish they kept true to the story of her just being an average girl. i think it’s definitely more entertaining and more heartwarming. also i love your username😌

[@opelove4220]

JYP!

[@DirtyPrancing]

And now you are either born a mulan or you're just mulan's sister: a girl with little influence who is better off just getting married.

[@krystallights1325]

Totally agree, I felt that they made her way too perfect that she kinda became a little unrelatable.

[@wonhoscake1214]

CherryBomb Love YES

[@ale52dez]

Damnn he went there!! “She has to act like she doesn’t want the citizens of China to be oppressed” deaddd

[@vjo6158]

Right?! Hahahahaha Damn

[@israellai]

ikr my man going for it so much love for LME rn

[@ukonnokia]

I came to say this. Oh it hit so well. It was so good.

[@dragonfly5665q]

wait .. can someone kindly explain?

[@ukonnokia]

@@dragonfly5665q If i remember correctly, she's been very supportive of China's actions towards Hong Kong.

[@zuzuzuko3947]

she throw away the armor when going to battle?!! She even lost her intellegence in this version!!

[@corrine1717]

While I recognize that Mushu is a problematic element for the story; I thought he had a really great character connection with Mulan in that both of them were imposters. Mushu’s initial selfish motivation to avoid trouble by manipulating and endangering Mulan contrast with her own sacrifice and struggle to protect her loved ones. So obviously I hate the dumb Phoenix.

[@despinasgarden.4100]

Is not even the correct Phoenix XD and Mushu at least helped Mulan trough the movie

[@swimmyswim417]

Yeah. You could replace Mushu with a similar character who doesn’t have Eddie Murphy’s kind of humor but still brings some levity. But the Phoenix is a non-character. It’s just a prop. And not even one that adds to the story.

[@acenull0]

"I thought it was okay. Not terrible but... for 200 million dollars you don't want an okay movie" 😂😂😂😂 I'M CRYING 😂😂 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

[@sharilshahed6106]

Felt the same way about Birds of Prey, which ironically a lot of people defend saying its good for being okay movie.

[@user-to6fy9of9e]

Sharil Shahed Ikr that movie average asf. Still better than this movie tho

[@captainram5259]

@@user-to6fy9of9e yeah definitely

[@slevinchannel7589]

It's delusioanl to think it's ok. It was terrible like heck. It was amazingly bad. Cringe, Fake-Feminism, Plot Holes and Cringe. Also Fake-Feminism. Oh, and Cringe. Did i miss something? OH YEAH! EVERYTHING IN REAL LIFE ALSO!! THE END CREDITS EXTRA-MENTION AND COMPLIMENT CONCENTRATION CAMPS!!

[@IsaacRoz]

Anyone remember Enchanted, starring Amy Adams and Patrick Dempsey? That's my favourite Disney live-action movie.

[@emilyordaz3976]

yeahh i loved that movie when i was small.

[@whatthehellisthis]

it’s a crime that it’s underrated

[@Iggybart05]

i love that movie!!!

[@Ruby-gf2ve]

I loved that movie as a kid, it’s really sad it’s not as popular as other movies

[@trinaq]

@@emilyordaz3976 Totally, it's a definite staple of my childhood, and I've never forgotten about it! 👸🥰💜

[@andieethechibii]

it felt like there was no hardship for Mulan in the live action. She didn’t train and practice secretly during the night, they didn’t shame her when they found out she was a female. Instead, there was the problem of ‘chi’ and the effortless superhero-like fighting and the “le gasp she’s a girl?! now begone i dont wanna see your face”. Not to mention the addition of the younger sister so theres less pressure for Mulan to marry for the family.

[@onuhrita5009]

Making her train was empowering... The pole scene was so important and they just gave her chi... Annoying!!

[@victoriablake3826]

Giving Mulan a sister actively makes the movie worse though. The fact that mulan’s an only child and that all her family’s honor rests on her is a huge part of her character

[@zelamorre1126]

Disney: "Oh, we're changing the original film to make it more like the actual Mulan tale!" Also Disney: Makes a complete trash fire of a cliche "chosen one" arc instead of following any of the many versions of Chinese Mulan - thereby pissing off EVERYONE.

[@DemonicRemption]

@Zela Morre When did they ever say that? Because I would've enjoyed that. But all I heard was that they wanted to make it more realistic. Which is bullcrap PR.

[@slevinchannel7589]

It's delusioanl to think it's ok. It was terrible like heck. It was amazingly bad. Cringe, Fake-Feminism, Plot Holes and Cringe. Also Fake-Feminism. Oh, and Cringe. Did i miss something? OH YEAH! EVERYTHING IN REAL LIFE ALSO!! THE END CREDITS EXTRA-MENTION AND COMPLIMENT CONCENTRATION CAMPS!!

[@trinaq]

1998 Mulan: A perfectly ordinary, courageous young woman who gets by on courage, determination and wits, despite many doubts.💪 2020 Mulan: She has inexplicable superpowers, and doesn't seem to be able to fail at ANYTHING! 🙄

[@cataryad661]

And the superpowers feel kinda sexist... - I have not watched the new film, but I have watched a number of videos talking about it, and from what I understand, chi can only be used by men, and “special” women, which would alienate a lot of women and young girls.

[@anikabella6222]

The live action just made her like the child protigy

[@brbyoutubing]

1998: Gender expression is not a black and white, finite thing; an or woman, through hard work, determination, and perseverance, you can achieve anything, even if you do it differently! 2020: the only way a woman could ever compete with men is if she is BORN special and capable of doing anything a man does but she still has to look pretty so girls will buy toys of her ^^ GIRL BOSS OF OPPRESSION, WE SO WOKE, GIVE US MONEY!!!!!!

[@basicradical3581]

@@brbyoutubing bruh, how did we actually go backwards like that, it's depressing

[@Hiphop618]

Nowadays the only way to write a Stunning and Brave Strong Female Character is to give them absolutely no flaws or personality other than sassy and sarcastic. Otherwise it's misogyny.

[@ashleyyang3743]

Tbh I like the hair cutting scene, but it’s redundant culturally bc they all wore their hair long back then.

[@dontbemean3942]

actually cutting a woman’s hair back then in China means a lot more than you think ( culturally, morally and religiously )

[@phantomx3902]

miss the "dishonor on your cow"

[@JulianVJacobs]

it's funny that this movie literally has so many people talking about the Chinese government. I don't think they wanted nor expected this

[@wearelegallyrequiredtoeatd3580]

The link above is a virus, don't click on it, why is it youtu.be?

[@SenkoKitsune]

When the Chinese themselves hate the movie: Disney: surprised

[@randombrokeperson]

@@wearelegallyrequiredtoeatd3580 It's best to report it as spam. So far I've seen them leave about 5 comments like that on this video smh

[@wearelegallyrequiredtoeatd3580]

@@randombrokeperson I do but they still take a while to disappear, so I rather report and warn people that may come across it

[@muzicalassassin2901]

Wearelegallyrequiredtoeatdice I reported it

[@Borderose]

Just a few bones to pick with their pathetic attempts to be "accurate": 1) Mulan was from Northern Wei. North. She shouldn't be living in a tulou. Those are Hakka buildings. Hakka people live in the South. Like Shanghai. 2) They used the WRONG phoenix myth. Their cringeshot "rise like a phoenix" visual metaphor doesn't work with the Chinese phoenix because the _fenghuang_ has little to do with "rising" or rebirth. It's a symbol of prosperity, happiness, and imperial femininity. The "wife" of the dragon. 3) Their tactics are shit. Just saying. 4) "Qi" doesnt fucking work that way. Even in its most fantastic depictions. Qi is breathing. It's something you supposedly cultivate to grant you superior control over your body and in wuxia films to such an extent that it's borderline magic. That said, it's not something you can just be born with. You cultivate it. You train to get better at using qi to reinforce your physicality. 5) The costumes are an anachronistic mess. Styles from different time periods and different bloody DYNASTIES interact with each other. There are also rules regarding the use of color and symbols for different social classes and this movie doesn't care to learn about them.

[@TaYLtheWhAle]

They clearly should've hired you instead whoever the heck they decided to overpay

[@silvertheorist]

Thank you for taking the time to teach us so much in this comment.

[@user-lb4bz8tu2k]

Hakka people live way south than Shanghai, mainly around Guangdong province, e.g Guangzhou. And the Hakka buildings were not being built until the 16th century ish, hilariously far from Mulan's time. The original movie had some problems with historical accuracy but I have no idea what they were thinking when they made this one :/

[@miauxy_]

​@@user-lb4bz8tu2k "it looks chinese therefore it's culturally correct" is probably what they're thinking. seriously, I only read some Chinese novels but hell I know the shittiest emperor won't do the shitty dumbass thing the emperor in this movie did. the whole idea of Chi only belongs to boys is the same thing as saying blood only belongs to boys, they seriously thought mixing in some Chinese word can make the movie culturally correct huh.

[@velvet3484]

Thanks for the info but now that i know those things, it makes the movie look even worse.

[@DaveMan1K]

The original legend and movie had Mulan as a real person who went through trials and tribulations and overcame them through her own determination and commitment to her honour and country. The 2020 movie had Mulan as a woman with superpowers who's special because she was born that way, not because of what she did.

[@rei_cirith]

I can't say I understand why people didn't like the haircutting scene... as a Chinese American, I never saw that scene as her cutting her hair to look more masculine. I saw it as her feeling that what she was about to do would dishonor her family, so she was cutting herself out of it. There's a history of Asians cutting their hair when they are forced to leave home (a la Prince Ashitaka in Princess Mononoke, which I know is Japanese, but the root of that exists across many Asian cultures, Chinese included.).

[@despinasgarden.4100]

I think people dislike it becado is more of a japanese tradition than a chinesse one

[@rei_cirith]

​@@despinasgarden.4100 Not true. Google "cutting hair in ancient china" It's super common in Chinese culture.

[@dontbemean3942]

You do know most asian cultures share similarities in culture beliefs and morals ... maybe try not to separate each other or compare but celebrate ☺️

[@semolinalibra]

@@dontbemean3942 thats not the point. People think it’s okay to mix and match asian cultures when writing stories because “they’re all the same”. And that’s not okay.

[@adlirez]

​@@dontbemean3942 that's not celebration. It's called monolith, and its one-size-fits-all thing may sound good, but it's actually bad to the point of insulting. As a Filipino-Chinese, having every single Asian country be smushed into one cultural monolith is an insult to the richness of all our cultures. Our cultures are so similar and yet so different that there's no way to mush it all into one and make it look recognizable to us. There's nothing wrong with comparing and differentiating. If anything, being considered "all the same" is insulting to us.

[@Purple-ey2ou]

The animated version of Mulan was so iconic and did not deserve this atrocity

[@BooDotBoo]

They shouldn't have made any live action remakes; they should have just reanimated them and, maybe, modernized them a bit instead of these turds they keep pushing out. And I feel bad saying that about this movie, but the good about it is too overshadowed by the bad.

[@RobertBaraheon]

Let remake all old movies without any souls for 💰 and act surprise and triggered when ppls complaint.

[@katherinealvarez9216]

So what hollywood usually does? I'm joking (kind of), but yeah, I'm just gonna wait this out. I'll be an old crone by then, but it'll be over.

[@JillianWeathington09]

ahh capitalism :)

[@BooDotBoo]

And this has been the case for pretty much all their live actions, so far. I'm not even interested in Disney, anymore, and try to support it as little as possible, even though Disney has a stake in EVERYTHING... and this review pointed out exactly why. Capitalism has killed everything; money is king and few companies have a soul, anymore. Try to buy things from small businesses if you can.

[@slevinchannel7589]

You know, it's hard for me: Normally, i would seperate the actual Movie 'Mulan' from the Real Life. Look at them seperately. But this... THIS is just an extreme case and i dont know how to do it here. All this is so insane. The Movie is full of Cringe, Fake-Feminism and Plot Holes - yet, the Real Life has way crazier problems and I'm starting to think China is so off-track from the rest of humanity that some Nation should - no kidding - invade China and take over, so the Supression ends... Or something like this! I know this normally isnt right, but... i believe there is a 'Point' where such a thing is justified. Of course this point is by no means easy to reach, but... it's possible to reach, you know? Oh, i don't know.

[@englishatheart]

For the love of goodness, use actual words. It's "people".

[@katherinecheng6484]

"even the horse community was livid" dang. they really failed in all aspects, huh? gotta give them credit for versatility

[@mnchnim1004]

"Man is built like Markiplier" That caught me off guard 😂😂😂😂

[@Mojo0729]

They really went out of their way to make it as difficult for themselves as possible instead of just hiring ONE Chinese person who understood the history & culture. Smh

[@singmusic123]

AND THE PERSON WHO SANG REFLECTION WAS WHITE

[@BooDotBoo]

They do this with pretty much ANY show or movie or book about any culture other than white, unfortunately. This is why so much of PoC media still suffers from bad representation, sometimes to the point of being completely offensive.

[@dickmelsonlupot7697]

@@singmusic123 Who the fck you kidding?? The singing voice of Mulan was a Filipino, *NOT* white

[@singmusic123]

@@dickmelsonlupot7697 i think christina auguleria sang relfection...they mentioned it in their trailers..

[@dickmelsonlupot7697]

@@singmusic123 The new one or old one? Because for the animated one it was Lea Salonga

[@dulcelemaire1220]

I loved the 1998 Mulan movie as a kid, it made me feel like as a girl I could do everything that anyone else could. This remake took that away completely, it felt super rushed and I just didn't connect with her character at all. It was a huge let down.

[@davidforde2507]

If you are rushing with 200 million, you a finance issue.

[@Panndia]

I had sooo many issues with the movie. The biggest thing was that they took all the times when she was smart, clever and hard working to achieve her goals and were like, “...magic.”

[@onuhrita5009]

Must every single thing in Disney have magic! 🙄

[@deartsygirlflem3374]

"Mulan's father volunteers as tribute when really he needs life alert!." I'm dead! That line had me floored lol 😂😂

[@laurenpaige3816]

I have a friend who is Chinese and she hated the movie The witch especially pissed her off, she said the witch wouldn’t have been like “oh one person is nice to me I’ll like her” she would have fought her (which would have been so much cooler) Also she said the chi was not done correctly And making the cricket into a human was dumb

[@lifreddy3090]

I am a Chinese,and all I can say is,they have an all Asian cast,but all of the writers are western,I highly recommend a KZbin channel called the Accented Cinema (or Flim,I'm not sure about the correct name lol)He is a Chinese and he explain the best way possible to Westerner why Our Chinese hate it soooooo much.

[@OutdoorsJ]

Yeah the Chinese word for witch 巫婆 Wu Puo. Is such a distinctly western concept that even calling her one makes the character stick out like a sore thumb. Should have made her a spirit of a demon if the production team actually did any damn research.

[@krystallights1325]

Chinese as well and I thought it was okay. I wish they made the movie like actually realistic and accurate, but it's Disney and we need to have some type of magic in it. Honestly though, I thought the idea of the witch was cool, but maybe that's just me having a little crush on her 🤣. My father on the other hand hated the movie and he kept pointing out all of the inaccuracies that the movie had (which is A LOT) and he thought that the movie was to American which I agree.

[@OutdoorsJ]

@@krystallights1325 I honestly liked the witch character too and was probably one of the more interesting characters in the movie. It's just unsatisfying when they didn't really expand the character, give us any of the witches motivations that made sense. If anything it should have been revealed that the Khan was being controlled by the witch all along and Mulan would have to face this powerful enemy. I also don't think people really take issues with the fact that the movie wasn't accurate, it just that disney "CLAIMED" they wanted to be historically accurate and they failed to deliver a fantasy story nor a historical story.

[@inotaishu1]

Then I wonder what she things about Conquering the Demons.

[@pigpjs]

Two things disappointed me: the exposition and the chi as a superpower. In the beginning of 1998's Mulan Shan Yu is on the Great Wall and the poor solider we all know is going to die bravely lights the warning flame and says, "Now all of China knows your here." To which, Shan Yu responds, "Good". Instant chills. That strong dialogue combined with the atmosphere could have been present for the witch (Xianniang) or Bori Khan attacking the outpost. There were a lot of missed opportunities throughout the film to develop characters. Instead, Mulan's dad is providing exposition over what should have been pivotal emotional scenes. The structure and framework were all there with no payoff.

[@ilovepossumsforever3809]

How many me does it take to deliver a message One Chills for me

[@pigpjs]

@@ilovepossumsforever3809 Yes! Perfect example of show don't tell. We all know what is going to happen but they never outright say to kill one of the messengers. 2020 Mulan would have said it directly.

[@xx_rocio_xx9905]

I'm still boycotting it because of where they filmed

[@aeri2512]

Where'd they film?

[@shi_.]

As a Muslim, THANK YOU GOOD SIR

[@onuhrita5009]

Me too.... We are many!

[@Morgan21590]

Personally, I found Shan Yu's motivation of being an incredibly prideful warrior and seeing the great wall as an epic challenge from the emperor so much more interesting than Bori Khan's revenge over dead dad angle.

[@despinasgarden.4100]

Also, Shang Yu was way more intimidating and charismatic.

[@danielhounshell2526]

@@despinasgarden.4100 it's not even close, comparatively, Bori Khan is a joke.

[@despinasgarden.4100]

@@danielhounshell2526 agree, Bori Khan is just a bad and boring villain

[@danielhounshell2526]

Shan Yu was just a fantastic character all around he wasn't just a stereotype that could be summed up in one line from Inigo Montoya. He had intimidation, charisma, and intelligence. His army didn't end up being painted as incompetent by dropping an avalanche on themselves, instead, they were overcome by Mulan's ingenuity and quick thinking. More than that, at the end he simply wanted the Emperor to acknowledge his victory, which really helps characterize him in a way we just didn't get with Bori Khan.

[@despinasgarden.4100]

@@danielhounshell2526 totally agree, Shang Yu is such an underrated villain, he is way more seious than most villains and yet, he is still charismatic and competent.

[@anweshaiz9]

I’m a little worried that Disney corp might use the failure of Mulan as an excuse to not venture into POC leads and cultural stories, instead of just doing their research and making better movies.

[@TaYLtheWhAle]

I didn't even think about this and the dread literally gave me goosebumps.

[@shadotarot]

So they are holding us hostage: like this crappy movie or no more poc leads?

[@sunnylin2279]

no. this should teach them to make better movies instead of kissing China's ass

[@_aiborie]

I never thought of that! Damn you Disney but I doubt it, there would be backlash for sure. I know they'd bend over for the sake of $$$. That's one of the reason why they pandered to China because of the big market share there. Also considering how China's operations are back into full gear, people moving freely and all.

[@aishas2497]

I think the issues is that the movie industry's have forgotten to develop characters who happen to be non white. They focus so much on race, gender that they forget to develop the character. I mean look at finn in star wars i was looking forward to his character being developed but actually he was brought in so that Disney could tick a checklist of just being a black character. So this mulan had to have superpowers because for some reason women cannot be allowed to be weak anymore but already has powers that they have to hide from men.

[@kenji1856]

made for china china: we hated it disney: inverse stonks

[@KatanaShojo159]

The whole film was a flop once the Chinese Communist Party put their hands on it. Not to mention Disney just doesn't give a crap anymore as long as it makes money. It was such a waste of talent having Donnie Yen and not showing how awesome he is lol!

[@cheddarcheese5476]

I was so excited because he was on. -_- But alas, the disappointed. I'll stick with Ip Man.

[@lukebytes5366]

It's funny because they actually lost money here, nearly 3/4ths of that 200million. And the money made was just low in general compared to their other live action films. Their running out of films to milk and it shows, this crap is finally starting to bite them in the ass and they do not care.

[@SoloJona]

20:40 "In 1998 Disney was willing to risk Mulan's box office to go against China's censorship... and in 2020, they thank them in the credits"

[@horsenuggets1018]

"Chi" just means "air" in Chinese and it's mostly a way for martial artists to regulate their breathing while fighting, but c'mon superpowers? You might feel fly, but you ain't flying cuz your breathing hit a bit different

[@wwaxwork]

It's used in acupuncture & Chinese medicine as well. But it's not like OMG super power.

[@horsenuggets1018]

@@wwaxwork it's like the director watched Iroh's "firebending comes from the breath" speech in Avatar and said "this shit real"

[@ykyk6828]

idk but it means something like energy flow in other Asian countries? It's definitely been given a new meaning or it's actually a different concept

[@vay5540]

Well sometimes chi is used as like borderline magic, and if you REALLLYYYY stretch it, then it kinda works for this movie? But the main aspect is; chi needs to be trained. That’s always how it works and you aren’t just born with op chi. It’s more like energy flowing through the body. Also the whole “chi isn’t for girls” is like saying “girls should breathe” or some shit like that.

[@horsenuggets1018]

@@vay5540 so if they be using chi like in wuxia stories then it isn't realistic Another point to jab at Disney for not including Mushu

[@stephr2048]

"even the horse community was livid" 😭😭😭

[@robertagren9360]

At least the horse had superpowers to ride faster than an avalanche

[@cadencaptures]

Dang. Disney is such a passive aggressive dictatorship

[@Skyewastaken2]

MING NA! That was the best part of the movie, SHE is Mulan, I dunno who this new chick is.

[@MeBeCreepy]

How do you get a $200 million dollar budget and not get ONE Chinese person that studied Chineses history and knows about Hua Mulan

[@Pastadudde]

The most hilarious part is that they spent part of that 200 million hiring a white costume and set designer team who went on a field trip through museums in EUROPE (and a few weeks in China) so that they could get ideas / inspiration 💀💀

[@NerdX151]

The producers at Disney do not care about culture or feminism for that matter. They cater to a very small (but loud) minority of SJW's that think progression is about giving women superpowers and showing different races on screen, without having them actually do anything meaningful. Its funny that in 1979 we had Alien, which showcased a naturally strong woman, but in 2020 you can't be strong woman unless you were born with special powers...

[@michigames1201]

Anyone else thought her name was fa mulan

[@KyrieFortune]

Disney in the '90s, just saved from the verge of bankruptcy: so, we're making a movie in Africa, send our best artists to study African nature in detail, get immersed in it Disney in the new '20s, one the biggest entertainment conglomerate in the world: so, we're making a movie in China, send a couple of people to European museums and see a couple of dresses

[@breannajefferson912]

"She has to act like someone who doesn't want the people of China to be suppressed." Got her. 😂 I wondered if you were gonna mention that.

[@thewildcard600]

savage

[@amaplicab12345678912]

Boo Babylon | Spam and malware, report this.

[@pancakemuncher66]

"she already had to act like someone who didn't want the Chinese people to be oppressed" XD

[@tumbke]

1:10 Coco was actually accused of being a copy of book of life lmao

[@emmasue9365]

very wild to see an actor who supports the hong kong police play mulan 👀

[@wwaxwork]

I mean what is she going to say when her family live in China? Do you know understand what the Government would do to them?

[@LittleHomieLightningtech]

@@wwaxwork she's a us citizen

[@alexander-hu9mu]

wwaxwork she’s a US citizen and her father is a government official

[@whyphy2213]

Mulan 2020 was a trainwreak that was going to happen. Everybody saw that coming a mile away

[@isaiahtomoana1101]

Mid fight bad guy be like "oh hi Lilo, your sister round?"🤣

[@MuraCasardis]

That moment when the animated series that has ghosts and a talking dragon is more grounded in its themes, character actions, power level and relationships than the live action remake that claims to be closer to reality.

[@poweroffriendship2.0]

_"LET'S GET DOWN TO BUSINESS, TO DEFEAT THE HUNS..."_

[@trinaq]

"Did they send me daughters, when I asked for sons?"

[@Introverted_Otaku]

2020 Disney: nope get rid of it the live action will be fine without it Lmao was it worth it disney was it?

[@pearornopear]

"You're the saddest bunch I ever met. But you can bet before were through, Mister I'll make a man out of you!"

[@abrilmolina5012]

"Tranquil as a forest But on fire within..."

[@enchantralx715]

Once you find your center you are sure to win

[@carta360]

The shade you threw at Screen Rant though 😂

[@katherinealvarez9216]

Couldn't happen to a nicer site.

[@RonaldMcPaul]

Anytime the KZbin algorithm recommends a Screen Rant video that ISN'T a Pitch Meeting, an angel loses its wings.

[@bakivaki]

Disney: *Notices you didn't Credit Mulan 2 in the Description* Also Disney: It's free Real estate

[@mirimarina6387]

I forgot the bit when she took out her hair before racing into a windy battle🤦🏾‍♀️👏🏾👏🏾

[@zalsabillafaratria2108]

I don't know if this is because I haven't seen a Disney movie in a while, but a lot of the editing seems off. Like unnecessary zoom-ins, a scene with a second too long which makes it cringey, not to mention the oddly placed remarks. I don't know how to feel honestly 😂

[@RenaDeles]

It is Western style quick editing for what should be a Chinese action film. To properly show off the action you need to actually have a long shots, so you can see all the choreography in the fights and properly appreciate them. And it honestly did look like a number of the fights actually were okay, just they were murdered by the quick jumps.

[@miauxy_]

Yeah the western editing doesn't fit the Chinese action film. Really, at least they can do good in terms of cinematography.

[@tamhuy10]

@@RenaDeles too bad they didnt get a director who specialises in fighting scenes

[@irEyERWO]

@@RenaDeles Huh, so that's why it felt off. I was thinking there where so many pointless shots that took too long instead of progressing the story. Some scenes where just plain corny.

[@nathan8750]

I felt like I was watching a Bollywood movie

[@highmynameskev]

it’s the “liiisteen” for me

[@trinaq]

Me too, the "Listen" always entices me to watch further! 👂🏾👀

[@jessicayoung3656]

When he says that it actually makes me want to listen.

[@noa5414]

Man I was so pressed that the pole scene wasn't in it... like what even was that walking up the mountain scene ????!?

[@meap6474]

"Boi is built like Markiplier" That line got me 😂 Really sad they cut him out though, he was one of my favourite characters

[@hcaz5818]

The slomo scene of her releasing her hair is probably the most hilarious thing I've seen in a movie this year

[@cynthiang]

And she just abandons HER FATHERS ARMOUR.

[@lrose1310]

@@cynthiang legit rides into battle taking off her armor. Not a good idea...

[@aquarimas]

Untying your hair when going to battle is a horrible idea😭 the enemies could just pull on her hair

[@tasheenajohnson602]

What’s crazy is they copied that scene from Wonder women when Diana about to go into no mans land but in that particular scene and movie its better directed, has better build up, and is actually earned within the character which doesn’t come off as a total cringe fest like in Mulan lol.

[@JulianVJacobs]

"they couldn't have 2 womxn by the end of it" when i tell you i died

[@TaYLtheWhAle]

My face genuinely went 😯 lol

[@sarap9431]

"woo! Sign me up for the next war" hahaha favorite line 🤣

[@raytan956]

those who set a room for the elderly, instead of kicking them into a nursing home-

[@dayy4115]

6:57 "Built like Markiplier" Never thought that sentence would be said by you lmao

[@daijajohnson7321]

LMAO facts! Mark's fans are to come here just for that reference

[@Romandy13]

I mean.... he's not wrong. XD!!!

[@elisekiko]

Liu yifei is the most bland actor ever and has only one facial expression.

[@suminarai7910]

I agreee I would have enjoyed some of the movie ignoring the politics and storyline had only the main star of the movie done better acting

[@suminarai7910]

She did mulan injustice

[@littlecuteangel112]

Funny thing is, when she was first cast Chinese audiences already voiced their distaste cause shes known as a wooden plank actress.

[@marvelous_680]

Fun fact about her: She's also known for being expressionless, just because she always want to look pretty. She should be a model instead if she doesn't like to do expressions.

[@user-ce4wb8sd7l]

the live-action Mulan tried to give her strong power (Chi) at the beginning, so she don't have to struggle through all the practice or "physical disadvantage"......the animated film have done it so well, audiences can easily "stand beside her" and watch her fight animated version is not cultural correct all the way, but the changes and the adaptations fit the aesthetics so they're well-done btw thank you for using the Taiwan(ROC) flag!!!!

[@onuhrita5009]

I love the way you put... We followed her through her training... She didn't have a free pass on life which made it realistic

[@TheAnnoyingCat]

"boy is built like Markiplier" i can't 🤣

[@rhianonradtkey1786]

He did say that!! I thought I had totally imagined this and had to do a double take! XD

[@FFisJEmatieMATIE]

If people love the original, maybe NOT change it too much?!?

[@fabiofuoco]

But at the same time they should get to the core of *why* people loved it. Take The new Lion King movie, is supposedly a frame by frame copy of the animated one, but lacks the heart and the emotions that made it great.

[@safetypinforkeeps]

This is my favourite essay of yours, honestly. Good work man

[@Hotsong780]

We're even tricked we've been backstabbed and we've quite possibly bamboozled

[@cassidy4037]

Watch Accented Cinema’s video on this, he’s from china and has a VERY INTERESTING opinion that BUTCHERS this movoe

[@MeBeCreepy]

That was great!😂

[@fa1ruz]

I love how on every other Mulan related videos there's always someone recommending Accented Cinema... And I'm here that!

[@RachEl-ub9ep]

Fairuz Fairuz I watched it just because he popped in my recommended and his take was actually really impressive

[@nelmarbenavidez4946]

Watched it also. Its deep!

[@GraceLum]

Ive been reccomending them too!!! omg im glad more ppl are sharing them

[@Allisonlikescats]

They tried to make Mulan into a Marvel superhero 🤦🏼‍♀️

[@fangabxyfangabxy8563]

Alli Burnett does she get frozen and enter the new MCU Captain America Style?

[@day_saram]

That was a very impactful way to wrap up this video and exactly why I watch these videos, amazing job

[@chadcognac5626]

Great video, as always. I really enjoy film and love deep diving everything I watch, in attempts to better critique films that I will watch. You two always provide high quality videos that highlight 1-2 (sometimes several) things Ive missed. Thanks!

[@Beraksekebon21]

make Jackie chan as mushu would save this movie ass

[@gpaderx6105]

lol. yucks

[@just-pure-chaos]

Why

[@AlexR2648]

But still have Eddie Murphy dub his lines

[@bigstunna2049]

Everyone and myself was hoping it would be ken jeong

[@chizzieshark]

No, Jackie Chan is pro-CCP and a traitor to the Hong Kong people. A drowning man can't save a sinking ship.

[@oct9653]

the culture *cha-ching* of disney

[@maxiemus5]

17:49 I’m SO glad you commented on that aspect of the actress 😂.

[@pikeyMcBarkin]

Thank you for your work on this video. Very eye opening.

[@nishthaarora9533]

"Honestly it's all the things Blumhouse could afford." Bruh you are hilarious and lovely. That line cracked me up.

[@dobbycinema]

Lowkey a month without new LME was not good for me, I’m so happy y’all are back! I was going through withdrawal

[@snickerrs1]

Yeasss thanks for name dropping JohnSolo 🙌👏❤️

[@Nitzah]

The worst part for me was the fact that they decided to make mulan a superhero. (Aside from the fact that their discription of "chi" is grossly innacuarate so being "culturally accurate" was bs) What made Mulan awesome in the cartoon was that she was an average girl who wasn't good initally and had to use grounded realistic tactics to become a great soldier. Throwing in magic powers making Mulan a magic lady who is just instantly amazing is cheap, unrealistic and has no payoff. I looked up to the 1998 Mulan who was able to work with just being a girl, but that's all she needed to be to prove what she could be and become a strong woman.

[@Boohoowahh]

The way I like to think of it is that it's a completely different movie but with the same name.

[@AveryTalksAboutStuff]

Love the Jon Solo shout out. His videos are always great.

[@daijajohnson7321]

There was one, where was it?

[@lavenderr77]

Great video! So informative. Really appreciate the comparison between the 98' movie and this one.

[@samiroxs6973]

"And boi is built like Markiplier" is the most accurate thing that I've heard all year.

[@anonview]

Surprisingly enough, I enjoyed Mulan 2 because I got so attached to Yao & co. in the first movie. It made me happy that they did eventually find girls worth fighting for. I'd choose this movie anytime over the live action disaster.

[@jadeoreo]

I loved mulan 2 too. It was a bunch of fluff and romance sure, but it was 100% better than the dumpsterfire of mulan2020

[@ashewood3918]

For like the past week my recommendations were just barraged with "Mulan 2020 is the bane of society" kinda vids that just shat the fact that the movie got rid of their favorite scenes. This was the first vid I saw that actually went into something deeper than "no mushu me mad" and I really appreciate that

[@KyrieFortune]

This is the fourth video that goes beyong "no mushu me mad", including a video by a Chinese woman who knows plenty of Chinese culture, ancient and contemporary Up your algorithm game

[@krystallights1325]

@@KyrieFortune What video did you watch??

[@KyrieFortune]

@@krystallights1325 "Everything culturally wrong with Mulan (2020) by Xiran Jay Zhao

[@shannahbaudelaire]

Shocked anybody missed Mushu. I'm my opinion he made a really amazing movie un-watchable, similar to the gargoyles in Hunchback.

[@frankiec3659]

Shannah Thurber wow that’s probably the most unpopular opinion ever

[@nerdycat2625]

This reminds me of the old Aesop's Fable about The Man, His Son, and the Donkey...

[@iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii7738]

LME: ‘Can you imagine someone going into a football game with no pads’ Rugby: Exists LME: ‘I’m gonna pretend I didn’t see that’

[@jovanym2931]

But you have to admit coco was more authentic even down to its cast than the book of life not to mention way better plot Ex the architecture found in the book of life is something you’ll find in Spain not Mexico.

[@emilyordaz3976]

i still like the book of life tho lol

[@secret3811]

Mulan got Elsa'd *Let it go*

[@i8dacookies890]

One of the more informative videos out there, good job.

[@kevinc2895]

the my sister's keeper joke was the best bit in the video

[@stacybarron346]

Live-Action Mulan sucked so much that I slept almost through the whole entire movie. They should of gone with the same story line and the same characters and the exact same plot as the animated movie. Just sayin....

[@fabiofuoco]

As much as that would have been better, I think ppl would have still complained about it, and I think a good reason why that is is because it’s nearly impossible to replicate the charm of Animation. See in an animated movie the director has FULL liberty of the characters moves, line delivery, expression, even the world they live in. So it’s pretty clear this new era of Disney is flawed at its base, it’ll never be possible to replicate what their classic were. Period.

[@itsjustvin7630]

@@fabiofuoco then it shouldnt replicate but instead make a better structured story

[@miskellaneousK]

@@fabiofuoco maybe not necessarily replicate but it should have charm. Aladdin and beauty and the beast are both recent live action adaptations and with whatever faults they might have they did the original justice. With Mulan they tried so hard to please everybody and be "different" that they ended up with a mediocre product. Personally the moment I heard they cancelled General Shan and changed Mushu i knew we were headed for disaster

[@lizzymaii4459]

I agree with you and they could of added a bit more to it maybe how the mom and dad are coping at home worrying about Mulan hoping she is okayy and the ancestors talk about how they wonder if Mulan is saved by the great dragon yet ect... just added a bit more to than before and maybe made a few more things accurate and the woman that voiced Mualn would of been a better option to play her! Or maybe she be the mom

[@LetMeExplain]

What's the best Disney Live-Action Movie?

[@spinhozag.3972]

Let Me Explain idk

[@setokaiba7995]

Beauty and the beast or aladin

[@abiodunsulaiman2297]

None of them

[@abruoon]

101 Dálmatas

[@kingretro2473]

Lowkey they are all great

[@Neon_Ghost1]

I didn't like how expressionless she was, she really failed to emote a lot

[@charlieland8454]

Omg one of my fave youtubers mentioned one of my other favourites. Also ace video great info ☺️

[@toganium4175]

This movie was a lifeless experience. It’s Mulan, but without any personality.

[@stephr2048]

"the culture *cha ching* of disney"

[@theaceofspadez_]

When they removed Mushu and the cricket, I didn't wanna even acknowledge this movies existence.

[@riptobias]

9:55 I was so ready for him to say "dishonour on your cow" :P

[@aryeng3004]

The current culture of Disney turn every woman into a Marry Sue and make the man the but of the joke

[@melfree2545]

Aryen Ganesh they don’t seem to understand the difference between a strong female character and a strong character who happens to be female. Give me the second one every time.

[@junikigai]

The man wasn't the butt of the joke. At all. I recognize she was a bad character but you're just whining about "feminazis humiliating men!!"

[@aryeng3004]

@@junikigai I honestly don't care about who shames who because I am a actions speak louder than words kinda guy so there is that

[@deborah8056]

They’re trying to have this feminism trend in Hollywood/ Disney but they’re completely missing the mark and dare I say making it worse in so many ways.