Edit: I still constantly get white people in the comments acting like I personally desecrated their ancestors' graves for calling out this movie for having a majority white production staff, and I have to say that I was so angry because Disney SPECIFICALLY bragged about how "authentic and accurate" this movie was gonna be and acted like they were doing Chinese people a huge favor, only to come out with THIS. I'd have the same reaction if they employed a majority of any other non-Chinese people to make this movie while claiming that, but let's not act like Hollywood doesn't inherently favor white creators, lol. asdjf;slak y'all really liked this video, huh I want to make more about Chinese history and culture and stuff but with my current computer it took...20+ hours...to edit and render this video. I put a Ko-Fi link in the description, please consider supporting me if you wanna see this channel become an actual thing!
@limxinyi77904 жыл бұрын
Yes please :3
@WhoTookMyMirr4 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see reviews of C-dramas too! Especially the terrible ones.... oh man...
@gryranfelt54734 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing part of what took a lot of time was the skipping around and having to find the right parts? To be honest, I'd be fine just listening to you talk about some topic without much clipping if that makes it easier for you. You have a lot of interesting points and was very engaging to listen to. I really want to hear you talk about some great Chinese litterature that's still accessible to common audiences. Or maybe your favorite Chinese myths or something :O
@FreggFaerie4 жыл бұрын
Even if you only make one video every month or two or less, we're here for it!
@PokemnTrainerRacheal4 жыл бұрын
I'm excited for your book and for more videos!
@gabsgabs12874 жыл бұрын
"no songs because people don't actually sing in battle* *Mulan taking off her armor and letting her hair loose in the middle of the freaking battle for AeStHeTiCs*
@Tamaki7424 жыл бұрын
Forget that historically armies would go into battle and break into songs as self and collective motivator. Modern armies still break into songs when they head to battles.
@pokeperson10004 жыл бұрын
She’s a superhero. She clearly doesn’t need it. :P They took as much use of wires as possible, and made sure that her actions mostly didn’t adhere to the laws of physics.
@Crawlingdreams4184 жыл бұрын
That clearly showed the audience that she wouldn't be harmed, so she didn't need to worry 😂😂😂
@megangwilliam53434 жыл бұрын
Tamaki742 it’s fine she still had plot armor
@gabsgabs12874 жыл бұрын
@@claudia-7917 it's like everytime a girl fights she has to take some clothes/armor off. It doesn't even have to be sexual (like in LOTR or even Wonderwoman). That's the empowered aEsThEtIcS they keep going for
@khamulthewack47324 жыл бұрын
"Have you ever seen a movie that pissed you off so bad that you made a whole KZbin channel just to roast it?" This is how legends begin.
@naomistarlight61784 жыл бұрын
I started my anime blog that I've had for 10 years just because I was mad that Barnes and Noble had stopped carrying my favorite anime magazines. Let the hate flow through you...
@mr5594 жыл бұрын
Hahaha. Just like how the channel "Girlfriend Reviews" blew up after making a review on Red Dead Redemption 2.
@marthapozo48814 жыл бұрын
And I'm here for it! Let the shenanigans begin! :D
@Raccon_Detective.4 жыл бұрын
@@naomistarlight6178 Indeed brother
@Nassit-Gnuoy4 жыл бұрын
I liked and subbed right there.
@alexisfeynman98814 жыл бұрын
"How fast is Mulan's horse?" clearly, the horse cultivates his chi
@stylis6664 жыл бұрын
Hahahahaha! I laughed way too hard at that! It caught me so off guard. Well done!
@queenning284 жыл бұрын
Maybe he/she is a horse spirit that’s on his way to cultivate into human form, with the goal of eventually becoming immortal. And if this is a fantasy romance C-drama, the horse spirit will fall in love with Mulan and give up his immortal cultivation in order to live an ordinary happy life with her (in his human form - does that make it less furry?😂). Then they’ll get married and give birth to a human/spirit hybrid child who later encounters severe identity issues. Then one day the gods/immortals will find out this “sinful” marriage between human and spirit, and decide to punish and separate them. And then blablabla omg the story writes itself😂
@francesgreen35194 жыл бұрын
@@queenning28 that would probably be better than the mulan movie
@FiddlebirdBlue4 жыл бұрын
@@francesgreen3519 I second this. Someone make it.
@Velereonics4 жыл бұрын
To carry more oxygen and stop his body from producing lactic acid.
@rosamy20172 жыл бұрын
My favorite part about the original was the ending. Mulan joined the army not because she wanted to fight, but because she wanted her father to live. She went home to be with him, and he was just happy to see her. Her love interest followed her home and introduced himself politely to her family. I loved that he did that, because Mulan never said she didn’t want love and marriage, and this way she gets it from someone who sees her as a true intellectual AND physical equal. The point was never to dismantle society, or as this movie seems to think, to become a man. The point was to have the choice of how to live your life, both within and outside of convention.
@Mojo1356 Жыл бұрын
And then the sequel completely ruined it.
@bayanmirza6956 Жыл бұрын
@@Mojo1356 we don't talk about that thing. The Mulan animation only had one film we care to mention & know about.
@aeoligarlic4024 Жыл бұрын
Don't forget the grandma Mulan: "Would you like to stay for dinner?" Grandma: "WOULD YOU LIKE TO STAY FOREVER?!"
@21specter Жыл бұрын
@@aeoligarlic4024 “dinner would be great”
@kiwimusume10 ай бұрын
No offense, but y’all have got to stop throwing a tantrum about the few movies that don’t centre romance. If I can deal with 95% of movies ending with at least one happy couple, y’all can stop acting like you’ve been given water in the desert when you’re given yet another happy couple ending.
@coni35384 жыл бұрын
The real hero of this story is Mulan's horse. It outran a whole avalanche and carries her everywhere she needs to go.
@dream_candy21734 жыл бұрын
HAHAHA trueee
@sourlovee33_4 жыл бұрын
HECK YASS!
@sadam-kd5ug4 жыл бұрын
He's the new Mushu
@SHARKBAIT_HOOHAHA_4 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY
@hanoisme78584 жыл бұрын
Lmao yes
@Tyurru3604 жыл бұрын
"How fast is her horse"? Clearly the horse was true to itself and connected to its chi.
@wyntertheicewyvern62264 жыл бұрын
It's chi is beyond imagining.
@Tyurru3604 жыл бұрын
@@wyntertheicewyvern6226 Truly it will bring honour to us all.
@wyntertheicewyvern62264 жыл бұрын
@@Tyurru360 if you had such a horse, its chi, the boundless energy of life itself, would you tell it only a son could wield chi?
@hellzbellz2724 жыл бұрын
HAHA this comment & thread made me laugh, thanks all.
@nanami_akumudeadchannel71154 жыл бұрын
XD
@bluetube3644 жыл бұрын
I like how “the witch” can turn into a bunch of birds but decides to turn into just one bird so that she dies instead of idk losing a finger.
@magsteel98914 жыл бұрын
Or maybe conjuring a shield would have been a good idea
@agnes62764 жыл бұрын
*cough cough* peter pettigrew *cough cough*
@ChristHoon4 жыл бұрын
Liu Yifei encourages to kill the dreams and freedom of Hong Kong children and young people. She supports the Hong Kong police who are using tear gas against the protestors.
@helleswahn4 жыл бұрын
or like she said just killing the dude instead of sacrificing herself lol that scene literally made no sense in any way
@sameerakhan74554 жыл бұрын
At this point, It seems like she WANTED to die😂
@2fortsmostwanted2 жыл бұрын
"Mulan passes out for a bit, wakes up, stares at the FBI motto on her sword, and decides to take off her armor" this is the funniest thing I've heard all day damn
@MagisterialVoyager Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@uzumakirakku4 жыл бұрын
This movie is like pouring an entire bottle of soy sauce on a plate of spaghetti - that doesn't make it Chinese, just makes it salty. Very salty.
@djinn.n4 жыл бұрын
this is somehow a perfect analogy 😂
@sgk15734 жыл бұрын
uzumaki_rakku this comment is too accurate
@jeness4 жыл бұрын
this analogy had no business being so good!
@mythoughtsexactly21454 жыл бұрын
Is it weird I've seen a person put soy sauce on spaghetti?
@ririrarin18214 жыл бұрын
@@mythoughtsexactly2145 Fusion spaghettis exist, but done well lol. This movie is simply dumping soy sauce on spaghetti=ruinin it.
@possiblyvi4 жыл бұрын
Disney: "We got rid of Mushu since it wasn't realistic enough." Also Disney: *Adds witch character and magic*
@teddiespicker4 жыл бұрын
PossiblyViv I WAS LIKE WHERES MUSHU?! WHERES MUSHU?! WHERES THE FLAVAH?!
@alistair1274 жыл бұрын
I got so mad when they said they got rid of Mushu. He's my favorite charter ever
@ConradToledo4 жыл бұрын
Adds mulan with superpowers that lets her kill people with giants spears afters she kick them like a masters sensi
@mariapalomino8034 жыл бұрын
Rip Mushu 🙏🏽☹️
@fatherchungus84164 жыл бұрын
Nooo not Mushu!
@happninmojo4 жыл бұрын
"She didn't need to let go of her father's probably very precious and expensive armor." That sentence was far more Chinese than Mulan (2020).
@fulalbatross4 жыл бұрын
Oh man, I'm boiling at this very practice each and every time it turns up in a movie. Like wtf, people are just willy-nilly throwing 25 Ferraris worth of armor away in every other movie like it's any old trash. And weapons. And don't get me started on ropes... How I wish they'd stop doing that. It'd be such an improvement to every single one of those movies, for literally no effort what so ever.
@patrickcote45214 жыл бұрын
Most movies just really don't understand how Expensive and Effective ancient armor were. To them it's just cheap decorative thing that protect less than clothing ;)
@hannahluke93814 жыл бұрын
I don’t know who wrote that scene, but it feels like something a man would write
@lolawhiterabbit4 жыл бұрын
When I saw this, I was soo confused, I was thinking “why did she just took off everything that was meant to protect her? And her hair too? The whole purpose of the hair up is to make it easier to fight and see. It’s not because she’s a women bc when women fight, we put our hair up”. That whole thing made no damn sense, only a dude would write that.
@ryohoshi84454 жыл бұрын
@@patrickcote4521 It fell out of use because it stopped being effective against newer weapons--most of the changes in armor design have driven by that, and it only became fashion when it held on past when it was still effective. The thing is that if they really want to pull that kind of scene off? Just establish that we're at one of those points where the current style of armor just slammed into being an expensive & ineffective impediment because there's new weapons that punch through it and/or had a "And THIS is why you don't buy from the bargain bin at the cheapest used armor dealer..." moment. (The latter might be good if you want other people to have effective armor--it's just, well, our stripper bought the cheap sketchy stuff.)
@awesomeperson33422 жыл бұрын
The witch being a bird spirit, and Mulan being accused of being a fox spirit would even give the witch more of a reason to empathize with Mulan!
@yukishiro3287 Жыл бұрын
Fox spirit... A serious accusation you got here because this is usually applied when you're calling someone a "slut", in here should be applied when a woman seduces a man and manipulates his mind
@dslai2938 Жыл бұрын
Also the witch used a shuriken, a Japanese weapon to try and kill Mulan. A *Japanese* weapon. 🤦♂️ Look I can give it a semi pass if the movie was based remotely around any of those regions and just was like a mixture, but this movie is about a *Chinese* story and it’s even more confusing that the armor is actually accurate to ancient Chinese armor. However, it could’ve worked if just as you said the witch was a fox spirit that instead of being from China was from Japan since those two countries have been enemies for who knows how long and it’s like Tamamo-no-Mae, a fox spirit who’s origins although were Japanese some versions state she was originally from China and was the reason the Shang dynasty fell and fled to Japan under a different name. Hence why she would use Japanese weapons
@kingdionysus1867 Жыл бұрын
@@dslai2938Wait, DEADASS??? I missed that detail then.
@yuhyi0122 Жыл бұрын
@@dslai2938 yep and fox spirit historically is used for demonizing woman so it fits, most famous was su daji
@oakland7561Ай бұрын
i legitimately would've loved a retelling of Mulan that incorporates magic. just not this..
@ritamvfernandes963 жыл бұрын
Even Mulan's horse in the original movie has more personality in the first 10 minutes than live action Mulan in 2 hours
@Grey_di.ant_4203 жыл бұрын
That’s so true. I got more entertainment from the cricket then the entire live action film. I got more entertainment from the background soldiers then the entire 2020 movie
@magnusbane4203 жыл бұрын
You mean cow
@shaunaray13 жыл бұрын
Damn every horse in that movie
@lourenrose19673 жыл бұрын
Cow* ugh people these days can't even identify an animal 🙄
@tonywoutrs3 жыл бұрын
She's Chinese Rey Skywalker, what can you expect
@still.ines074 жыл бұрын
THEY LITERALY CUT OFF MUSHU BEACAUSE "THE DRAGON IS A TOO MUCH IMPORTANT ANIMAL FOR THE CHINESE CULTURE TO BE REPRESENTED SILLY AND FUNNY" AND THEN...??!
@606aichan7O74 жыл бұрын
I just thought they didn't want unnecessary additional CGI stuff
@luchomscyfy4 жыл бұрын
@@606aichan7O7 opposite to what? Unneccesary CGI like a witch's superpowers?
@606aichan7O74 жыл бұрын
@@luchomscyfy I haven't seen it yet so I didn't pay much attention It's not opposite to anything? I'm just saying I thought they just didn't want to create a model of a dragon that would be somewhat realistic yet similar to the animation, because he probably would be in a lot of scenes. A whole model, as opposed to BG stuff just seems like a lot if they cared about world building..if that made sense....??? -but Chinese martial arts stuff usually has a lot of CGI anyway, so I'd assume that was kinda a normal decision
@BattyButtercup4 жыл бұрын
that sounds like Disney making an excuse to not research whether black people hung out in ancient china (spoiler: they did and, vice-versa, chinese people hung out in africa as well). like, on the one hand, chinese dragons are pretty rooted to chinese geography - they bring rain and cause earthquakes and are rivers, etc - but, like, if they didn't want to just, idk check through 5000 years of chinese recorded history for existing instances of african immigrants &/or visiting dignitaries or whatever, they could have just. hired an actor who was both black and chinese? it would be a HUGE step in on-screen mixed race representation and plenty of people would jump at the chance to be involved, be it as a shape-shifted bird spirit, a dragon, or a dragon statue. but Hollywood apparently only knows that ethnic minorities can find each other attractive but NOT that, maybe, they'd end up having mixed-race kids together who might then go on to be actors and comedians struggling to find work because they're simultaneously not black enough AND not asian enough. the whole "dragons are too ~SACRED~" thing smells like Disney dodging the chinese government's ire at the suggestion that black people exist in chinese history &/or white Hollywood not being able to compute the idea of ethnic minorities teaming up outside shared tokenism in majority-white groupings.
@shadowchu59404 жыл бұрын
who cares about what happens next the whole movie is wrong anyway. Cries in offended Chinese.
@Mel-0n4 жыл бұрын
The biggest female empowerment this movie could achieve was making Xiran so mad about it they made a whole ass channel and a great critique because of how bad the movie is
@yam11464 жыл бұрын
I wanted to like, but it’s at a perfect 420 😌
@XiranJayZhao4 жыл бұрын
Shlgljgss LMAOOOO
@coppersense9994 жыл бұрын
And at 1.2k is well passed (past?) 420 likes. I love the new (resurrected, 2.0) angry feminist, with a hoarse voice and goth look and that classic deadpan cynical sarcasm that only the patriatchy can stir up in an intelligrnt person *wipes away tear. There is still hope for the future. And LEAD with the plug for your book, you bad ass!! It sounds hella good, I want to read it. Geez, multi-talented, I hope! We'll see.
Just a reminder: Disney spent THREE YEARS studying "the physics of curly hair" for brave.
@Lissy_YT481 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, that explains a lot...
@SeaguIISoup Жыл бұрын
disney didn’t, the artists and animators did
@catperson6683 Жыл бұрын
@@SeaguIISoup they did it on company time working for... Disney.
@Wroar2020s Жыл бұрын
@@catperson6683 PriVer Animation?
@sghuntress.mp4 Жыл бұрын
isn't brave pixar?
@hkc85444 жыл бұрын
"And don't tell me a woman can't be Emperor. Wu Zetian did it. She'll be laughing at you from Chinese hell." Why did this crack me up so much
@valentinmitterbauer41964 жыл бұрын
The greatest pirate that ever lived was a woman. Chinese as well, for a matter of fact.
@HuyLe-yt8pw4 жыл бұрын
Cheng I Sao?
@AetherKirin4 жыл бұрын
Fellow Extra Credit History viewers?
@zilan_xiong4 жыл бұрын
@@valentinmitterbauer4196 yep, i feel like more people should know about that
@zilan_xiong4 жыл бұрын
lol that cracked me up too, but i think she forgot to mention that wu zetian was also one of the better emperors of the tang dynasty in china.
@walteracevedo51054 жыл бұрын
Disney: "I command you to love this movie." Everyone: "The mountain does not bow to the wind."
@loisannebarin69954 жыл бұрын
Great use of reference!
@sophchoi46784 жыл бұрын
This 👌
@Nintendon854 жыл бұрын
"No matter how the wind howls, the mountain cannot bow to it." Sorry to be pedantic, it's just such a cool line I needed to put it out there.
@ItsAsparageese4 жыл бұрын
@@Nintendon85 beat me to it by one hour lol
@salenebrom64764 жыл бұрын
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@merrittanimation77214 жыл бұрын
"She's a woman! She can't have chi!" "Are you saying my daughter should be dead?"
@ominousromanpillar2384 жыл бұрын
an extremely creative death threat
@poisonedvices69624 жыл бұрын
Look, if we're going to say chi is like blood, or he'll even life force, the fact that a woman can create life makes its own case
@Mystique-zq9jy4 жыл бұрын
But no one will have such strong chi/Qi during birth because Qi has to be cultivated for many years until it reaches a certain level (Based on my experience of reading wuxia) So clearly the developers of this movie only did surface level research. Not sure if I can trust Disney anymore
@lloydgush4 жыл бұрын
Fun thing is that chi is basically better translated as humor, if one wants to use western magical concepts to understand it, although humors don't have much of the flow thing.
@MushVPeets4 жыл бұрын
I mean, if it means this movie doesn't have to happen...
@panman44592 жыл бұрын
This channel is the equivalent of the story of Wu Zetian becoming the first empress of China. She got pissed. She showed how pissed she was. She rose to power.
@boobitch_2 жыл бұрын
She’s also related to Wu Zetian
@mistuh694202 жыл бұрын
She also wrote a book about Wu Zetian
@bbnagyu77042 жыл бұрын
She's the first female emperor! Not the first empress :)
@panman44592 жыл бұрын
@@bbnagyu7704 Oh, I'm sorry
@CesarACastillo2 жыл бұрын
Not to be a grammar cop but its “rose to power”
@s.e.s.91464 жыл бұрын
"She'd be laughing at you from chinese hell." i'm making you an altar
@bennyton25604 жыл бұрын
that line had me ROLLING lmaooo
@kintamas44254 жыл бұрын
I love the fact that is one of the many ways the movie craps all over political correctness while trying to be pc.
@Abridgelion4 жыл бұрын
Is that a Charles Bronson quote?
@dorothygale96484 жыл бұрын
Just make it a 'historically accurate' one. You know, like Disney!
@FFWorldHD4 жыл бұрын
10:43 best parts lmao
@Arterismos4 жыл бұрын
Disney: We're taking away Mushu because we want Mulan to be more historically and culturally accurate. Also Disney: *adds superpowers, a phoenix, and makes Mulan even less historically and culturally accurate*
@LaurArt_UK4 жыл бұрын
this movie needed many things, but it especially needed Eddie Murphy
@breezyfeer4 жыл бұрын
Right? I was excited about the historically accurate stuff so I didn't care about the things they removed. But 15 minutes into this movie and now I think the original is way more life-like than this one
@ForeverDegenerate4 жыл бұрын
@Desdemona And a Witch! We can't forget Disney said talking animals were too fantastical and then turned around and gave us a friggin' Wtich! (facepalm)
@mrokhaos82694 жыл бұрын
It took me a lot of time to think What the fucking Chi is he talking about XDXDXD It is so confused to link the Chi in this movie to the Chi in Chinese culture XD Further more, if you can use Chi that powerful like that witch ancient Chinese will probably worship you as a god no matter what gender u r............
@Godzillakingofkaiju14 жыл бұрын
Yeah, wouldn't a phoenix be indicative of the Hua clan being of royal blood rather than a nobody farmer family?
@The_Olive_Dragon4 жыл бұрын
“They made her Asian Elsa” That basically sums up Mulan entirely
@vexxi14704 жыл бұрын
Olive _ Dragon its Asian Elsa but without any of the humor or iconic music/moments that excused the terrible story 💀😂😂
@Fisinocean4 жыл бұрын
You know what Mulan lacked amd Elsa has? ELSA HAS PERSONALITY.
@okaminotamashi74114 жыл бұрын
tbh, Chinese Ma'Rey "Not Skywalker" Palpatine Sue would be much more accurate
@zuzuzuko39474 жыл бұрын
@@Fisinocean nah, Elsa only personality is her song. Anything else about her is bland. In my opinion, Anna is the more flesh out character
@Fisinocean4 жыл бұрын
@@zuzuzuko3947 well then again, its a musical and most of elsa scene is a song while 'mulan' just fails man
@reitanthekiller2 жыл бұрын
I love how she says "That's not how women are demonized in chinese culture" at 02:50, like, the demonization of women is so common in basically every culture that one has to specify how they really are demonized in each culture xd
@UnKnowmanNumber2 Жыл бұрын
People are demonized, how you get demonized varies according to your race, sex, beliefs, etc and depends on who is demonizing you.
@GuiSmith Жыл бұрын
The way people are vilified even changes strongly with time. Like the modern idea of a “witch” like they use in this is such a young concept. Pretty sure this vilification came around 1000CE, when paganism at large was being expunged in Europe and all forms of practice that related to the old religions were made illegal. This included traditional forms of medicine, divination, and so on. The movement to make witches truly be “evil” instead of just outside the law “helpers” or healers took a couple centuries and the publication of an awful book called Malleus Malifacaraum. So not only is the concept of “witch” here wrong for Chinese culture, but it’s 400+ years early by European culture of the same era. The fact that she’s a shapeshifter would’ve still been seen as morally neutral to Europeans at the time, too. They would’ve been instead freaking out that she’s using magic against the establishment, kind of like China would too to be honest. That’s the real crime, political and rival destruction, and yet this alignment was not explored. Like this just doesn’t line up anywhere anytime, honestly.
@palofrasca1775 Жыл бұрын
Yeah it's weird, it's like women are not goddesses, but mere mortals to whom sometimes bad things happen. One thought they were immune to bad things because they don't poop. Cos they do not poop, right...?
@hauthot287 Жыл бұрын
You’d be surprised how many cultures thankfully didn’t demonize women, like at least the great majority of Native American cultures
@melanoc3tusii205 Жыл бұрын
Yes, everyone can be demonized, every culture does it in its own way. What a shocker.
@izzylapis4 жыл бұрын
Disney: We removed mushu, li shang, and the music to make it more accurate! Also Disney:
@r3ll2824 жыл бұрын
"We removed them cause cgi is gonna cost money and we love money that we dont care what you say afterwards"
@reyiscoolest4 жыл бұрын
R3LL “so we are going to hire another expensive actor, make a whole new fight scene, give mulan freakin powers, and we will do this for no reason
@kiyoqr4 жыл бұрын
they literally said they added the phoenix to make it more accurate, but the red dragon is a literal chinese god,,
@kkuralina4 жыл бұрын
w a f f l e exactly bruh
@exist40464 жыл бұрын
@@kiyoqr honestly when i learned they removed mushu i lost all want to see the movie. The original, in my opinion, is amazing- sure, it may not be entirely accurate, but its better than this botched shit. FAR better.
@archieyiu71114 жыл бұрын
"Qi is not for daughters, it’s for wireless chargers"
@lukaf54 жыл бұрын
Wi-Qi
@imveryangryitsnotbutter4 жыл бұрын
@@lukaf5 Qi Tea Latte
@andrean7334 жыл бұрын
@@lukaf5 i wish i could give an award to this comment
@Danae784 жыл бұрын
Nice. Useful energy.
@PlatonicPurplePanda4 жыл бұрын
Did they just genderized chi! *gasp*
@alyssasteed82274 жыл бұрын
"Half of great Chinese literature is just fantasy fan fiction of historical events". I laughed out loud at that.
@ClingyKiwi4 жыл бұрын
You know I just wrote a small paper on what mythology is and its purposes, I used a great quote from a book... I wish I used this though.
@jim-bob30934 жыл бұрын
This just reminds me of all the bible fanfiction from Europe that i live for
@Spyno414 жыл бұрын
Basically anything in writing is a fanfiction of a fanfiction of fanfictions.
@1987MartinT4 жыл бұрын
Romance of the Three Kingdoms is a good example of this. The Three Kingdoms Era was a historical period of civil war in China, which lasted 96 years. The book is kinda similar to the Trojan Cycle, in that it depicts a historical conflict, featuring supernatural elements, hundreds of years after the event. Real historical characters are featured in Romance of the Three Kingdoms, but like how Achilles is invulnerable except for his heel and the Greek gods keep interfering in the Trojan War, Yellow Turban leaders have magical powers and Zhang Fei has the strength of 10.000 men.
@rainbowosprey16194 жыл бұрын
As a Chinese American whose dad is a history nerd, can confirm
@doodle41782 жыл бұрын
I will NEVER stop rewatching Xiran absolutely MERCILESSLY destroying this excuse of a movie.
@BrennaBridRogers Жыл бұрын
Excuse of a movie? Mulan 2020 was barely an excuse of a loud fart.
@zihanwang4078 Жыл бұрын
@@BrennaBridRogers😂
@kiwimusume10 ай бұрын
I feel so bad for Xiran because you can see their…qi (see what I did there?) ebbing away as the movie goes on.
@deathsheadmothranch71884 жыл бұрын
“Cutting your hair dishonors your parents.” Proceeds to leave her fathers armor behind in the middle of a war.
@oddeye24124 жыл бұрын
Disney: *i'm gonna pretend i didn't see that*
@luisawashere46304 жыл бұрын
Aaaa I was the 505 like! Anyone knows that AM reference??
@BingDwenDwen4 жыл бұрын
you didn't pay attention, that wasnt her fathers armor she ditched, she got a whole new set of armor when she joined the army. if you going to hate at least check your facts.
@pouncepounce74174 жыл бұрын
@@BingDwenDwen even in european medival times armor was either privatly owned or from your landliege, the only part of the army that had issued armor was the tiny standing army they had, levee troops had them not issued. I doubt it was different in China. Everything not akin to an knight or house guard had gambeson and an helmet, at home, so they where able to defend the place they where living in. To equip an whole army would not be practical for exact this reason. So the armor she ditched was either her fathers or historical inaccurate armor. She wears what would have been top notch stuff, expensive stuff, never issued to normal troops.
@BingDwenDwen4 жыл бұрын
@@pouncepounce7417 we are not talking about historical facts here, we are talking about the movie. the armor she wore to get to camp was a different and oversized armor than the one she went to battle with, it look totally different. check the movie again.
@Gurianthe4 жыл бұрын
"at one point, Mulan loses her FBI sword" I lost it, that's just hilarious
Liu Yifei encourages to kill the dreams and freedom of Hong Kong children and young people. She supports the Hong Kong police who are using tear gas against the protestors.
@bellevoor4 жыл бұрын
My favorite moment from the cartoon version was when they saw the village after singing "A Girl Worth Fighting For" and Mulan sees the doll and places it at the base of her commander's sword. Because in that moment, the little girl and all the little girls in the village became "The girl worth fighting for" All the soldiers understood that they weren't doing this to come back for the ladies or whatever. They were doing this to protect the citizens of China
@RAJ07.14 жыл бұрын
That scene has a whole new meaning for me! Thank you
@Luinta4 жыл бұрын
That scene was also a meta transition for the movie itself. No more songs, no more jovial fish out of water humor. From here on it's all...real, in a story sense. The reality of war slaps them, and the audience in the face and there's no going back.
@moonkingkei55474 жыл бұрын
I’m not... I’m not crying! 😭
@MyBoyBuildsCoffin4 жыл бұрын
Wow, I had never realized that
@vianjelos4 жыл бұрын
@@Luinta that transition would have worked better if they didnt go straight back into comedy for the climax of the film. I think had the climax been more realistic and grounded(like the lion king) it would have been more satisfying. Dont get me wrong, I enjoyed the call back to the climbing the pole and the way Mulan disarmed the Hun leader...but the whole using fruits to incapacitate the other huns soilders and the men having to cross dress(where did they get the time to do so?) And The hun leader being killed by fireworks(launched by Mushu not even Mulan) its all very slapstick and not really fitting with the tone that the transition into a cold war epic created. I liked the animated movie but the climax is the weakest part.
@yin42962 жыл бұрын
the thing about chi absolutely killed me. firstly i’m a white person with no asian background, yet i learned what chi was in a single chinese course i took in high school lmfao. i learned the same basic concept in INTRO to religions when learning about daoism. it’s such an easy thing to understand that’s how you know the directors didn’t even google the world chi before using it
@DancerVeiled Жыл бұрын
They probably watched DBZ and figured chi is a battery you have to fill up to throw kamehameha waves.
@auricstorm Жыл бұрын
Could they have made it chi-BENDING? Thought of that when they said "chi is like blood, would say Blood is only for warriors"...ooh blood bending 😈
@andrewgreeb916 Жыл бұрын
I have a grasp of what chi is from acupuncture, and frankly it's just not magic. As far as the AMA is concerned it's voodoo. You have energy within you that can be harnessed to heal you, ease your pain, and enable you to recover from injury, not that modern medicine approves of any method that keeps patients away from their expensive drugs that do little to help.
@andrewgreeb916 Жыл бұрын
@@auricstormhemomancy, which is probably western as heck.
@AsianIdiots323 Жыл бұрын
@@DancerVeiled Even in DBZ, ki is described as an innate aspect of your body that you harness. Ki isn't a fucking superpower lol. It's how you utilize your Ki that gives you power
@illustryfe53544 жыл бұрын
Mulan was originally a normal, average woman but she could do the same things as any man could: wield a sword masterfully, dutifully carry out stressful orders, hard labor, etc. The fact they had to make her have superpowers to even compete with her male, military compatriots degrades the original storyline. It makes it seem like she's still lesser anyway, as a female.
@wammert4 жыл бұрын
Just like that one rabbit saying, they totally missed the point.
@lilithhecataniangoddessesm1874 жыл бұрын
Also putting MAGICK in it IN MY PERCEPTION is like copying Elsa from Frozen, I DON'T THINK THEY WANT IT TO BE ACCURATE BUT RATHER A KIDDIE MOVIE
@nosai104 жыл бұрын
I mean, it's not like she's the only one that can fight like this.
@woofwoof81464 жыл бұрын
That is actually a really good point, I hadn't thought of it that way, but now I understand. You have to be something *beyond human* to best a man as a woman. That is deeply insulting.
@miceatah93594 жыл бұрын
@@woofwoof8146 i mean its also true
@colachan914 жыл бұрын
Disney: Gathers an entire cultural team of people from Polinesian islands to make sure Moana is culturally accurate. Also Disney: This
@BelleFlower154 жыл бұрын
The people making the animated movies and the people making the live action movies are clearly from different universes and there's no one in authority trying to make sure Disney's movies have any kind of quality assurance
@sillau94 жыл бұрын
Moana was awesome,but it did had some things that wasn't accurate..They basically took the many different islands within Polynesia and mashed them together in the movie..and how they visually depicted Maui(when Maui was visually depicted different in Polynesian myth)..and some parts they made up..like the chief stone part and such..but other than that,I still loved the movie,even tho it had it's flaws and plot holes and whatnot,but no movie is perfect..and I was just glad that they did a Polynesian character/movie that was enjoyable(same when they did Lilo & Stitch).
@starburst984 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's mostly about intent, moana wasn't perfect but the intent was good.
@mighty_polar_bear37864 жыл бұрын
And moana wasn’t even that culturally appropriate. My dad and I are Polynesian and we... where disappointed in the cultural accurate aspect of the movie BUT I still watched it over and over because at least it was entertaining
@sillau94 жыл бұрын
@@mighty_polar_bear3786 lol,right..which Polynesian are you guys from..
@catherineliu4724 жыл бұрын
The thing is literally all children in China who have gone to school are taught the Ballad of Mulan and have memorized it. My mom can still remember the ballad from literal decades ago. So Disney literally could not have afforded to misinterpret or mess up the poem, because basically everyone knows the poem.
@freelemonade96954 жыл бұрын
Not if they didn't hire any Chinese people ;)
@applesauce38734 жыл бұрын
welcome to what whitewashing a production team does to an attempted 'culturally accurate' movie
@jalifritz80334 жыл бұрын
It is even read in Germany in elementary school when we talk about China.
@akut17934 жыл бұрын
ya i was taught the poem when i was in 6th grade and mulan was a normal girl who was sewing something and only became a fighter to save her father because he was too old and she didnt want him to die in war. she also didnt have superpowers oof disney rly went and westernized it😔
@freelemonade96954 жыл бұрын
applesauce gdi imagine America doing that 😔 uncultured gang. I think I'll read it in my own time because I appreciate parts of chinese history and my ties to it since I'm partly chinese and I am so mad at this suburban wine mom take on an otherwise good movie that I need good writing to wash away the feeling of "oh wow, the stupid actually hurts".
@Irenicus912 жыл бұрын
"And don't tell me a woman can't be emperor. Wu Zetian did it. She'd be laughing at you from Chinese hell." This brought me many serotonins thank you
@Xisstillalive Жыл бұрын
i laughed harder than i have in a while!
@yuhyi0122 Жыл бұрын
The chinese hell line is so funny because even the concept of hell is different between the chinese and european lmso
@JKingSniper2 ай бұрын
@@yuhyi0122yeah 18 levels
@tylerlindsey47724 жыл бұрын
I remember when people used to say cartoons aren't cinema, now cartoons are the only thing that have tangible emotion and beauty.
@johnnyritenbaugh12144 жыл бұрын
Switch to real Asian dramas. They still get it right. Hollywood is so lifeless right now.
@DragonLandlord4 жыл бұрын
Hollywood forgot animation is just a format. Japan's full-on embraced it and China's just remembered.
@marshmellow_melmel4 жыл бұрын
i hope people in the west start seeing animation as a serious medium rather than just "cartoons for kids"
@thegrayyernaut4 жыл бұрын
@@DragonLandlord I agree. Animation isn' a genre, it's a medium/format, just like the type of film a movie is shot on, or whatever.
@wadhaal-marri93194 жыл бұрын
And try to be accurate where the animators and storytellers research before working on it, which is why they take years to complete.
@byme.91834 жыл бұрын
I’m not Asian, but my mother does acupuncture and she went into a 20 minute rant when this movie pulled the chi card.
@allthatsheiz4 жыл бұрын
🤭🤭🤭😆
@oddeye24124 жыл бұрын
AS SHE SHOULD. PERIODT.
@aliceinwonderlust4 жыл бұрын
Ur mom is a great person
@TheSpawnfan4 жыл бұрын
I read many Manhuas and chi is not something you are born being able to Channel, but something you have to train to be able to use, such training, combined with martial arts so you can use the chi is called Cultivation, you also need a certain number of Meridian Roots so you can channel the chi and your Dantian, a region near the stomach has to be intact, and to get stronger you need herbs to make cultivation pills (screw up and you make poison pills instead), learn techniques and acquire different artifacts known as treasures, even a genius cultivator would need a sect or a master to refine the techniques, so, Mulan pulling those crazy stunts on her own, without prior training in cultivation is absurd, even by OP MC manhua standards because said OP MCs have decades worth of training under their belts, and they turned Mulan into a Mary Sue, to please China, a country that dislikes Mary Sues
@dontestevens48314 жыл бұрын
@@oddeye2412 you mean period?
@docvince14914 жыл бұрын
Kung Fu Panda was more respectful to Chinese culture.
@alexanderbemu61904 жыл бұрын
I think kung fu panda is THE movie of how to do chinese culture in a movie.
@MyFictionalChaos4 жыл бұрын
@@alexanderbemu6190 honestly, knowing nothing abt Chinese culture, im so glad kung fu panda did it right
@nine-vi7rw4 жыл бұрын
If this is true (from a Chinese perspective), I'd be happy to say I love those movies and they are severely underrated.
@drakke125Channel4 жыл бұрын
thats why I love dreamworks followed by Pixar. No political bullcrap in DreamWorks and they keep it traditional for gender romance and family values like how it should be.
@bigdipper15784 жыл бұрын
@@drakke125Channel um,Abominable 2019? Yes... DreamWorks tried to suck up to Chinese govt with that movie. But at least that movie is watchable and not a total trainwreck. This,Mulan however....bruh... They didnt get a single thing right with this movie,not even the costumes
@juniperrodley9843 Жыл бұрын
"Blood is for warriors, not daughters" would actually be kind of a great line to have a misogynistic character say
@HadridarMatramen Жыл бұрын
Oh, I would have loved it if that WAS the line, and Mulan answered really deadpan "So, I guess you haven't heard about menstruation, dad..." But I suspect that would have been a very different movie XD
@jalejablonsky23969 күн бұрын
I would love add in the underrated line, "Warriors don't dance." along with that. Lol
@sapphiree.unordinary4 жыл бұрын
Disney: We’re taking out all your favourite characters and songs to make it more “realistic” Also Disney: Haha magic chi goes brr
@graceus51014 жыл бұрын
Sapphire Wolf 💀😭
@MySadKitchen-Ash4 жыл бұрын
This made me burst out laughing 😅🤣
@ororaborealis39924 жыл бұрын
Lmfao 😂😂😂
@ilovecats37784 жыл бұрын
LMAO, ikr
@Kai-bz9ym4 жыл бұрын
BAHAHAHAHAHA
@sammygecko_4 жыл бұрын
Her sword just feels like the equivalent of “Live, Laugh, Love”
@ATEReacts4 жыл бұрын
Lmaooooo 🤣🤣🤣
@outbymidnight4 жыл бұрын
correct
@stephanieamanze67634 жыл бұрын
LMAO
@monicaraybrandt4 жыл бұрын
does this mean that mulan is a karen
@sully14924 жыл бұрын
raybrandt and shops at Hobby Lobby
@slhpproductions67074 жыл бұрын
Omg. Did she literally make this channel JUST to roast Mulan, and her only video got over a million views. What a power move
@fukkthisnewupdate88824 жыл бұрын
She got over 60,000 subscribers from one video
@Arcessitor4 жыл бұрын
She actually made it to roast white people, while being fully westernized and out of Chinese culture herself. But sure.
@christhomas15034 жыл бұрын
@@Arcessitor Well she might know to speak in chinese but then who would watch it
@takemeaway55484 жыл бұрын
@@Arcessitor why are you so mad
@29rbs4 жыл бұрын
@@Arcessitor Aw are you offended that someone didn't like a bad movie because it was about something they knew nothing about :((((( are you a little baby snowflake :((((
@consumingkazoos Жыл бұрын
"And don't tell me a woman can't be emperor. Wu Zetian did it, she'd be laughing at you from Chinese hell." literally the most iconic line of all time thank you for this masterpiece!!
@lessismore85335 ай бұрын
😂😂😂..
@DozerfleetProd4 жыл бұрын
"Just hire a Chinese screenwriter, who knows what they're talking about." Sums up the entire video, and the entire Disney controversy. Spot-on!
@fc73074 жыл бұрын
Not just that, why not hire a Chinese director also? Disney also hired tons of Chinese consultants(based on what I have read online, not sure if its fake news?) and I don't understand how they could have missed all of these.
@ashikjaman19404 жыл бұрын
They could have gotten Middle Eastern guys for Aladdin but nooo. Fuck man, even if they got like a Bollywood guy to direct the movie we might have had Shah Rukh Khan genie!
@kucingnumpakalphardasli81784 жыл бұрын
@@ashikjaman1940 I would love to see shah rukh khan as a genie
@mattboy23134 жыл бұрын
@@fc7307 They considered Ang Lee.
@DozerfleetProd4 жыл бұрын
@Shane L : The minute you tried to make it about Trump, you lost the argument. The inclusiveness was only for those who still recognized a strong Chinese state, and were ethnically Chinese. Trump doesn't care about ethnicity, he just wants a strong America that has some resemblance of sovereignty on the world stage. Real candidates who aren't part of the 2-party WWE, such as Blankenship, additionally want a return to actual rule of law. Which you'll find no mention of ethnicity in most of those early documents. Because those documents are color-blind. They make some reference to class status, but only insofar as to see to its eventual elimination as a critical factor. Nothing in Trump's America First says immigration is a no. However, invasion is not immigration. Everything for nothing for this or that ethnicity is not an acceptable set of terms. To say that's "discriminatory" is facially dishonest.
@mitarashi80914 жыл бұрын
yeah I'm gonna say it, making 2 female characters "stronger" than every man in the film by giving them superpowers isn't making a strong woman, it's weak, it says they're not capable of even being equal to men without a large advantage.
@emblemblade92454 жыл бұрын
Obviously
@notarealspy40904 жыл бұрын
Obviously
@LPSWeirdCow134 жыл бұрын
Obviously
@Grass-mc9ur4 жыл бұрын
Obviously
@acaracsc97794 жыл бұрын
Obviously
@bewilderbeastie88994 жыл бұрын
The original cartoon might have been inaccurate, but at least it was well-made and the makers cared about it.
@卂爪丨几卂4 жыл бұрын
I agree
@卂爪丨几卂4 жыл бұрын
It wasn’t perfect but it had a lot of heart poured into it
@Bluey3064 жыл бұрын
also it was still faithful to the essence of the original ballad in a few ways: notably mulan having to work hard to become a capable soldier -- like she was still a bit of a tomboy in the animation, but more in the "kinda messy and all over the place" rather than the "not like other girls bc she likes swords and can do backflips" kinda tomboy, and regardless still participated in the duties expected in her as a woman -- that she did it precisely to protect her father and how she went straight home after the war because she wasn't doing it for notoriety or anything. there were western "flavourings" to the whole thing (establishing mulan as a bit "different" -- but again, mainly in personality and habits rather than abilities -- the over-emphasis of "honour", the musical aspect and animal sidekick, the haircutting, for example) but it had a central heart to the story, carried the core resonance from the ballad, AND knew what it was doing when it came to emotionally impacting the audience. i'm chinese and i remember talking to my mom about it, and she too thought the mulan animated movie was pretty well-done and was accurate to the ballad in all the right parts (don't even get me started on how the ballad is VERY short so i don't blame people for wanting to embellish things....just not like mulan 2020 please.) also at least when mulan cut her hair in the original animation it absolutely slapped. the music, the lightning, the reflection in the sword. THE CHILLS.
@richerDiLefto4 жыл бұрын
Like pretty much any other Disney animated film ever made before the 2000’s, it was inaccurate but full of watchable fun.
@useddirt4 жыл бұрын
The original had so many powerful scenes and messages. Mulan was my favorite Disney Princess when I was a kid because I always tried my hardest in sports and I wanted to be strong and smart like her.
@ellahere23002 жыл бұрын
One thing I hate about this movie is how they... vilianize Chinese people. If a seven year old performed highly acrobatic acts, people would be impressed and praise her, and even call higher ranked people to witness her talents. She would quickly become popular, and even documented. This has in fact, happened before.
@seanmaclean13414 жыл бұрын
"Half of great Chinese literature is just fanfiction of historical events" *nods in Romance of the Three Kingdoms*
@infinity-gn9xq4 жыл бұрын
😂😂
@XiranJayZhao4 жыл бұрын
Romance of the Three Kingdoms is just Zhuge Liang Gary Stu fanfiction pass it on
@rubenaalexander50074 жыл бұрын
Oh right, I did laugh because I understood that. If even I, as a westerner that knows next to nothing about anything in the whole continent of Asia learnt all of that from C-dramas, maybe it indicates that the directors did less than that.
@johnmccarron70664 жыл бұрын
@@XiranJayZhao She ain't lying!
@thetalantonx4 жыл бұрын
@@XiranJayZhao As a Saltine American Zhuge Liang fanboy, LMFAO. I would love your thoughts on 2008's Red Cliff.
@cliff_hange72843 жыл бұрын
The original movie is: She's exactly like the other girls, but was treated as one of the guys for a short time and her potential to be a warrior and be as strong as the other men around her was reached. She's a girl and she doesn't need to be different to be strong, all she needed was the practice The live action: Well, sorry, girl, but the only way you can be as strong as men and be equals is by having literal super powers
@animelovergirl84613 жыл бұрын
Which is what I call a "Mary Sue" for the live action.
@literateartist93043 жыл бұрын
fr tho-
@anamazing22973 жыл бұрын
Cartoon: Boys and girls are both capable of fighting for and protecting loved ones, but girls aren't allowed in the army, so *disguises!* (Also, bigger range of emotion.) Live action: Too bad I was born a girl. Woe is me, I have to lie. 🤷 Yup, totally agree. Funny how the animated version has more depth than the live action abomination.
@lanceducusin46963 жыл бұрын
The cartoon: I'm an ordinary girl who uses my own wits to solve problems and save my country The live action: "i'M noT lIkE OTher GiRLs!"
@crowbar_the_rogue2 жыл бұрын
@@anamazing2297 Mulan didn't win through fighting though, did she? She won by being clever and thinking outside the box which is not something the army would teach her to do. I think the message of the original Mulan was that there are often more ways to accomplish a goal and that you shouldn't be afraid to do something unorthodox. It has very little to do with the "girls can fight too!" idea. Because being a solider is exactly what Mulan didn't do. And that makes the remake even more insulting because Mulan won by literally becoming a man. She even started smelling like one! Are you telling me that the only way a woman can succeed is by being a man? I thought Disney was being taken over by radical feminists? It's even funnier because they call it "female empowerment" even though the person they're empowering possesses no female traits whatsoever! They're trying to achieve more respect for women but just end up disrespecting them even more!
@maya_tl4 жыл бұрын
This woman was so damn pissed she straight made an entire channel _just_ to express how pissed she was. She really did that. The _respect._
@Whosaskin4 жыл бұрын
That's the level of petty I aspire to be
@halloweenheathen43944 жыл бұрын
Yeah but it wasn’t really culturally accurate. She got a lot of stuff wrong. I guess that’s what happens when an Asian woman makes a video about European people.
@Tamaki7424 жыл бұрын
@@halloweenheathen4394 the have turns tabled????
@seth53474 жыл бұрын
@@halloweenheathen4394 I'm sorry I didn't really understand what you mean by that. Could you eventually explain? Of course just if it isn't too much trouble.
@Tamaki7424 жыл бұрын
@@seth5347 It's supposed to be a sarcastic joke, because the movie is not even trying to comprehend Chinese culture.
@rebelturtle74942 жыл бұрын
Even though I hate everything about the 2020 remake I finally decided to watch this one after watching your other two analysis videos. And I remember a really good explanation for why the "girl worth fighting for" transition hit so hard. Because the entire song they are singing about exactly that, but in a naive romantic light. But when they get to the village they find the girl they should have been fighting for all along in the doll that Mulan finds. The innocent civilians and children and little girls. There is no way I explained it as well as the random Tumblr post I saw but like... it hits hard when I think about it!
@testerwulf33572 жыл бұрын
It does..it's a light silly song about dreaming of a lover to fight for only to stumble on a destroyed village and realize they already have a reason to fight for; the women and children of villages, their families, their country, ect.
@korsekil Жыл бұрын
Exactly. All their dreams of glory and the burned village reminds them that it's not about what they gain if they win, it's what, or rather who, will be sacrificed if they lose. It's not just wanting to win, they HAVE to win for the sake of those they love.
@Burn_Angel Жыл бұрын
"Mercenaries fight for victory inspired for what they can win, heroes fight inspired to avoid defeat for what they may lose."
@xxprologancool35383 жыл бұрын
Disney hired like a whole council or whatever for Moana to make it culturally accurate, but they can't do that for the Mulan remake. To top it off everyone behind the scenes weren't even Chinese not even Asian.
@taquitoxiq14443 жыл бұрын
i think that might be because the Rock went so hard for making it accurate and respectful.
@paradoxzee68343 жыл бұрын
But they work closely with the communist party of China and they aprroved everything
@randompromises10383 жыл бұрын
@@taquitoxiq1444 props to him because moana is a genuinely good movie that shows a lot about a culture to people who probably wouldn't have known about it otherwise
@stareyedwitch3 жыл бұрын
Some people have criticized Moana for having, in their view, a too western plot line. Taika Waititi was the first person to submit a script, which he said was very different from the end result. He has said that he found the end product respectful and not insulting.
@ollympian_art3 жыл бұрын
@@stareyedwitch fair criticism, but it's still miles better than Mulan 2020.
@annashamory25744 жыл бұрын
Disney: has millions of dollars for their budget Also Disney: won't even hire one historian who coulda fixed most, if not all the historical/cultural inaccuracies
@Astralify4 жыл бұрын
Propaganda doesn't care for "historical/cultural accuracy".
@peronkop4 жыл бұрын
Did it have to be historically accurate?
@sambradley90914 жыл бұрын
@@peronkop Yeah because they intended to make this historically accurate to start and they failed incredibly
@starandfox6014 жыл бұрын
@@peronkop considering how much work went into the original and modern times when it comes to culture.yes.
@peronkop4 жыл бұрын
@@sambradley9091 its hard to believe that was the goal when they included magic as a corner stone of their story.
@LazyAlternativeBrat4 жыл бұрын
Disney: "we're remaking this movie because we wanted a redo in representing a culture that has been white washed and abused for years in Hollywood " Also Disney:
@maia_gaia4 жыл бұрын
Just goes to show that Disney doesn't actually care about diversity. They only care about the marketing potential of pretending to care.
@AgentSkidZ4 жыл бұрын
"I think not being racist is the new racism." - Jeff Winger
@yucol56614 жыл бұрын
It’s about getting you to pay for the movie not to like it
@MrGrizzzlik4 жыл бұрын
@@maia_gaia All of the corporations do it, zoomers are a big market and all did the market research properly. What is even more disgusting is the way how they try to pretend they don't care about maximizing profits. Just remember Pride Month for Coca Cola, Bethesda and other corps posting "woke" ads everywhere but in Middle East and Russia lol. So much for "leading change".
@diegotm43654 жыл бұрын
@@maia_gaia yes
@zegeck Жыл бұрын
Strategy and tactics nerd here: Marching your slow-moving, heavy infantry into a field battle with no cover against horse archers is a great way to die. The trebuchet/catapult thing was hilariously unnecessary. They could have just sat back and plinked away with bows until casualties or morale caused a rout.
@kidsdomath13308 ай бұрын
Damn lol
@stellaris57265 ай бұрын
Not to mention, trebuchets are notoriously terrible with aim and movement. They're heavy as all get out, and they were used to attack castles because it's a giant target, so regardless of where it lands, it is young to hit the castle! A trebuchet would never ever hit multiple groups of people consistently. It'd be an absolute miracle to hit even ONE of those groups. So many things in this movie cause me physical pain
@fishface83343 жыл бұрын
I hated the movie because they removed Shang’s character and split him into 2 people. A really old general dude with no personality and a really hot dude that has no personality.
@zoneanomaly47803 жыл бұрын
@Lucky Lila Yeah, despite how much liberty the OG animation took with the Chinese cultural symbols, it at least had symbolism.
@Dandidoodles3 жыл бұрын
Bisexual legend Shang! NOOOOOooooo......
@EssentialBlue3 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad that I didn't watch it in the movie. When I first saw the trailer I was sstill looking forward to it. I didn't believe that it would be similiar to the animation but I expected that there would be some character growth and someone like Shang who would support her and makes her do her best. At least I didn't waste my time and money. This review is very entertaining.
@marinadeburgos86663 жыл бұрын
I read that they removed Shang because of the "person on a position of power- subordinate" situation might be insensitive, specially since the movie was made round the time Harvey Weinstein was exposed... They could have place Shang's father (who was in the animated movie) as the person in charge and place Shang in the same level as Mulan and it would have worked
@demnbrown3 жыл бұрын
@@marinadeburgos8666 yeah but that Harvey Weinstein is a western thing that should have nothing to do with the peace that tries to be a period piece while also being mythological lore
@flyfish58214 жыл бұрын
They not only made Mulan the Asian Elsa but also gave her an eagle fairy godmother.
@sakusserafim87554 жыл бұрын
i want cute lil cricket holding grandma back
@jeffreygao39564 жыл бұрын
If I wanted Asian Elsa, I'd just see She-Ra and the Princess of Power with Frosta.
@ajshim4 жыл бұрын
2020 Mulan doesn't hold a candle to Elsa. Elsa at the very least wasn't a mary sue & had faults.
@lessismore85334 жыл бұрын
@@ajshim Mulan is a Mary Sue in this remake? How? Her powers?
@BlackCat-hn9hs4 жыл бұрын
Plot twist magical fairy godmother is actually her girlfriend and I know that makes no sense but still
@tagdavid95034 жыл бұрын
Chinese girl: Is born The father: Sorry child, no blood for you
@kariissmol91724 жыл бұрын
I mean... From what I understand a girl in a Chinese family meant just someone to marry off. Like... I try to understand but genuine love seems to lack in all I can find.
@ebrahimwadee75744 жыл бұрын
@@kariissmol9172 they were referring to to chi and blood analogy
@smrtfasizmu72424 жыл бұрын
@@kariissmol9172 the same was true in Europe for most of history, are you going to seriously argue that's evidence that the French are incapable of loving their children too?
@ametsunami40704 жыл бұрын
listen The more “civilized” an old culture was the worse it treated the girls.
@haypochi12634 жыл бұрын
Until she has her first blood that is... 😂... Or at least according to GoT
@pnkpanther Жыл бұрын
Loved your breakdown scene by scene! I worked on this films VFX for about a year and I just wanted to add some even more upsetting context; I worked on the Phoenix character, and it was originally billed as a *physical* animal that started out looking kinda like a pheasant and slowly morphed over the course of the movie into the full blown colorful phoenix (and she was more of a comic relief character to replace Mushu, silent comic relief tho). We had DOZENS of iterations that looked better and months into the work they scrapped the whole idea seemingly because someone told them having comic relief AT ALL would have been in bad taste (???) Which I think is a great indication of the whole tone deaf direction of the film at large. The whole project felt like a half assed cash grab where the directors and on set leads were somehow convincing themselves they were doing something great by "making this adaption closer to the actual Chinese epic" while paying themselves millions instead of bothering to hire people who were culturally connected or even knowledgeable about the source material. In my 10 years of film work, I don't think i've ever worked on a film with such a wishy washy milk toast artistic direction from the client.
@nanwijanarko196911 ай бұрын
Wait, you actually worked on THIS film? I think that idea was good though ... If we didn't get any character development of Mulan, at least we would have gotten the phoenix's 'character' development
@pnkpanther11 ай бұрын
@nanwijanarko1969 Yeah it was a huge mess project wise. I was doing lookdev for the phoenix for probably near 8 months, the client just really didn't know what they wanted. which i guess is why they ended up scrapping it and all the scenes of Mulan actually interacting with the character when they needed to cut stuff for time. what showed up on screen was only the final, fully evolved form. I do think it could have been a nice metaphor for growth, even if it was a bit of a standin for actually writing character development lol
@im_an_oyster3 жыл бұрын
there are two genders: daughter and warrior
@jalifritz80333 жыл бұрын
No it is before and after the vampire visit!
@rachelleredd88033 жыл бұрын
That makes Mulan genderfluid, which is about as close to representation we're going to get from Disney, so enjoy it
@KeepCalmContemplateYourChoices3 жыл бұрын
@Depressed Gay Wizard *crying* hOw CoUlD tHeY
@WlSTERllA3 жыл бұрын
@Depressed Gay Wizard right 💔
@ctdaniels70493 жыл бұрын
Lasers and Feelings.
@cursapear4 жыл бұрын
"Half of Chinese literature is just fantasy fanfiction of historical events." LMAO
@Towkeeyoh4 жыл бұрын
Cursa Pear she has so many amazing lines!
@zhaoyun2554 жыл бұрын
She's not wrong. Romance of the Three Kingdom mixed both Historical and Fictional event.
@hpqphpqp4 жыл бұрын
This applies to most literature to be honest (e.g. in Europe: Illyad/Odyssee, Sagas, Arthuriana, etc.)
@ChewThePRO4 жыл бұрын
Not to mention journey to the west. It supposed to be a solo trip but ends up with a bunch of nonsense 😂 but at least thanks to journey to the west we have dragon ball
@zerocalvin4 жыл бұрын
yeah, that is pretty much it... the story of Wong Fei Hung for example, it's all fictional made up by his student but it is base on the real person with a museum dedicated to him back at his birth place Fushan. China have alot of story like this, it's fiction that base on real event.. Romance of Three Kingdom is the most well known fiction that kinda loosely base on historical event...
@MetaphoricallyRose4 жыл бұрын
I’m a biracial Chinese girl and I strongly disliked this movie, it’s soooo stupid and disrespectful. And it’s not just that almost all of the writers/directors were white, Kung Fu Panda also had those and they did a great job. Why? Because THEY DID RESEARCH
@lordmuhehe46054 жыл бұрын
Everyone disliked this movie, lol.
@oddeye24124 жыл бұрын
Kung fu panda its amazing youre right
@cutecloverrunevalyn25734 жыл бұрын
Wow, does that mean kung fu panda is more accurate (though still a fantasy and not a historical fiction) than Mulan is?
@ari-cs3ih4 жыл бұрын
as expected from kung fu panda 😌❤️
@Isabelle-hv6ny4 жыл бұрын
@@cutecloverrunevalyn2573 Yes
@viperblitz112 жыл бұрын
If the US saw animation as a real and legitimate art form, Disney would never have bothered with any of these remakes.
@avivastudios23112 жыл бұрын
They did see it as a real artform. They are making these movies to make extra money. That's all. And the sad thing is, it's working.
@viperblitz112 жыл бұрын
@@avivastudios2311 I meant more the culture's tendency to prioritize live action as some objectively superior form of storytelling. If there hadn't been a market for "better" versions of these childhood classics, Disney wouldn't have pursued them.
@barbieblues76392 жыл бұрын
American animation tends to look ugly and be shitty, to be fair
@jharris31102 жыл бұрын
Honestly out of the few I've had to sit through Jungle Book (2016) is one I enjoyed despite some of it's flaws
@avivastudios23112 жыл бұрын
@@jharris3110 a lot of people say that was the best Disney remake but I was just bored by that one.
@doro6264 жыл бұрын
Damn, she's not joking. This is her one and only video.
@zhannad7504 жыл бұрын
With that kind of professionalism, hard to believe, right?
@Mary13374 жыл бұрын
@@zhannad750 Honestly, since we (non-KZbinrs) watch KZbin - it would feel natural to "learn" from them.
@Turt37524 жыл бұрын
Most of this is taken directly from the Twitter thread she made while livetweeting lol. Me and others were just like “hey you could make this into a video!”
@breathingart4 жыл бұрын
Ya!! hahaha...
@zhannad7504 жыл бұрын
@@Mary1337 well I've seen numerous people sing and act, and I still suck at that, hahaha I think some ability and talent must be present to talk to a camera naturally like a friend, and to write a script that entertaining
@heididugas10033 жыл бұрын
God I HATE it when shows and movies act like women have to sacrifice protection in battle to show their womanhood! Why would any sensible person remove armor in battle. I just watched the live action yesterday and was like what the fuck, Mulan isn’t a god she’s a regular woman who needs armor!
@capncake88373 жыл бұрын
I mean, she WAS a normal woman. Not anymore. Disney decided they’d give her magical powers and now she’s a demigod.
@cece66613 жыл бұрын
@@capncake8837 My name is Hua Mulan. I'm twelve years old. Until a few months ago, I was a boarding student at Yancy Academy, a private school for troubled kids in upstate New York. Am I a troubled kid?
@SwizzleDrizzl3 жыл бұрын
@@cece6661 LMAOOOO
@queue97733 жыл бұрын
@Killua Zoldyck Man I sure do need to re-read pj because I forgot majority of what happened there
@capncake88373 жыл бұрын
@Killua Zoldyck Oh, is it? I’d forgotten his school’s name and that it was for troubled kids.
@LCBanga4 жыл бұрын
The fact she created a whole channel just to critique/complain about this movie is awesome lol
@slevinchannel75894 жыл бұрын
You know, it's hard for me: Normally, i would seperate the actual Movie 'Mulan' from the Real Life. Look at them seperately. But this... THIS is just an extreme case and i dont know how to do it here. All this is so insane. The Movie is full of Cringe, Fake-Feminism and Plot Holes - yet, the Real Life has way crazier problems and I'm starting to think China is so off-track from the rest of humanity that some Nation should - no kidding - invade China and take over, so the Supression ends... Or something like this! I know this normally isnt right, but... i believe there is a 'Point' where such a thing is justified. Of course this point is by no means easy to reach, but... it's possible to reach, you know? Oh, i don't know.
@eclair69104 жыл бұрын
I personally thing that since we live in an age where anyone on the internet can interact. That actual Chinese people should make an adaptation of the Ballad of Mulan. Just look at all the high quality web series that are out there.
@rogerfaint4994 жыл бұрын
@@eclair6910 There are tons of China-made Ballad of Mulan and they are way better than the Disney adaptation.
@RadenWA4 жыл бұрын
and she got like 30k subscriber just with this video! 🤣
@irony3734 жыл бұрын
@@slevinchannel7589 ok, dial back the imperialism bro.
@hunter_hiebert2 жыл бұрын
Only one good thing has ever come from this movie: It pissed off Zhao enough that we got this KZbin channel. I am so happy to have been here from the start and rewatching this a year and something later makes all her points hit even harder.
@ArwenRO244 жыл бұрын
Plot twist: the whole movie was actually about Mulan's horse and how he is the actual true warrior, out running avalanches and always being there for Mulan even though we didn’t always know he was still around to safe her ass.
@notmonaca4 жыл бұрын
honse
@TheLnGirl4 жыл бұрын
Seems like a better plot line honestly
@gummidon16184 жыл бұрын
I’d watch a movie about that
@mkilauj4 жыл бұрын
The horse is actually a cow.
@drawnwithlove34994 жыл бұрын
the horse knew Mushu wasn't gonna be in this movie so he became Mushu instead. It wasn't like the damn phoenix was gonna do anything
@aesthelie9534 жыл бұрын
This movie is less celebrating Chinese culture and more like celebrating western chinese takeout restaurants! Disney went more with fortune cookies than chinese mythology and culture
@InfernosReaper4 жыл бұрын
Fortune cookies are something American Chinese stole from the Japanese. Chop suey is what you're really looking for. It's a food dish that's the epitome of westernized Chinese cuisine.
@slevinchannel75894 жыл бұрын
It's an incredible Insult to the Source Material.
@White_Recluse4 жыл бұрын
Aesthelie I like how this movie doesn’t even appeal to the Chinese or western markets
@user-qd5gq9ec8k4 жыл бұрын
Bwhahahahahaha it’s Panda Express
@wendyokoopa70484 жыл бұрын
You guys forgot mulan was a brave transgender woman
@ericthered29634 жыл бұрын
Xiran Jay Zhao: "Have you ever seen a movie that pissed you off so badly, that you make a whole KZbin Channel just to roast it?" Me: *stops the video* "Hold up a minute." *Opens her KZbin page* KZbin: "Checks out. Only one video" Me: "Allllllright then. This is gonna be gooooood." *resumes playing the video*
@HI-fh2mj4 жыл бұрын
I gave the video a like immediately after I heard that line
@Luinta4 жыл бұрын
Omg me too. I checked the channel. Now I'm subscribed.
@jeanetteb0094 жыл бұрын
Did the exact same thing lmao
@litaraduodox57994 жыл бұрын
same lol
@Digmer4 жыл бұрын
that was the best shade ever.
@nobodyimportant281 Жыл бұрын
2 years and I'm still returning to this iconic debut. The fact that she made an entire KZbin Channel just to hate on a movie! The level of dedication and pettiness I inspire to be!
@certifiedmonsterfucker Жыл бұрын
im like 6 months late but xiran uses they/them iirc!! not mad ya ofc
@kiss2cry4 жыл бұрын
Original Mulan: with enough effort you can succeed no matter who you are Animated Disney- young woman overcomes her own physical weakness and uses her intelligence to become an awesome warrior in her own right Mulan 2020: sorry girls but you gotta be a superhero type person to impress anyone! not like other girls, am i right? who needs role models when you can have figures that you cant even aspire to be.
@cinnamoony39964 жыл бұрын
quirky
@Melissa-bm9to4 жыл бұрын
This movie is all about giving Mulan *I'm not like the other girls* vibe
@heavenlynana044 жыл бұрын
@@Melissa-bm9to that's literally all Disney movies lmaoo
@panigbrowardcollege3 жыл бұрын
@@heavenlynana04 tiana “I’m not like other girls.. I’m a frog”
@heavenlynana043 жыл бұрын
@@panigbrowardcollege LMAOO
@ChaoticNalilitoMC4 жыл бұрын
One of the things I liked about the original in regards to the transition between "A Girl Worth Fighting For" to the destroyed village is also the implication that they DID find a girl worth fighting for. A little girl who had been killed alongside her family and village. That scene hit fucking HARD
@Roberta_Trevino4 жыл бұрын
The whole thing is a masterpiece. Disney just made another movie to keep the rights to Mulan
@thatsdisco4 жыл бұрын
also, after that scene no other musical numbers happened! So they actively added depth to the latter part of the movie and were able to keep the beginning lighter! It's so good
@excessivelyfangirlingbookw33394 жыл бұрын
@@thatsdisco oh wow, I didn’t notice that. Thanks now I love it even more 🥰🤗
@doodle73424 жыл бұрын
I’ve never thought of it that way that makes it even sadder
@aduckwithayoutubechannel4 жыл бұрын
Original Mulan: Remember, gender doesn’t matter. You can accomplish amazing things, no matter who you are or how you look. Mulan Reboot: Okay so we’ve got this magic shit and a girl chasing a chicken-
@charlottewalnut31183 жыл бұрын
Sex not gender One of those is reality and the other is in your head only
@sparkypack3 жыл бұрын
Reboot is a train wreck.
@spaghetto98363 жыл бұрын
@@charlottewalnut3118 I'm just anxiously waiting on your behalf for someone to respond to the argument you potentially started.
@_stupidbro3 жыл бұрын
@@charlottewalnut3118 Neither matter that much for how fit someone is to serve.
@jacobw46123 жыл бұрын
Mulan Reboot: Okay so women can only be as good as men if their born lucky with magic powers
@dianasmith8166 Жыл бұрын
In the 90's, a Chinese exchange professor at my college discussed Mulan with us. He also thought she was from the north. In his town, it was generally thought that while Mulan wasn't ugly, she had been considered "undesirable" because she was a farm girl. She would have been strong, and they thought larger than many girls because of better nutrition and exercise. An only child, Daddy may have spoiled her as far as social mores of the day. When the conscription notice came, she went, like the stories say, but the gender discovery would not have dishonored her. There had been female soldiers before, some of which were great warriors. It is more likely that she was left because of her injuries. He said that traditionally, Mulan (not her real name?) Went on to be a great general, an ambassador and to sit on the Emperor's council. That once, she even sat on the throne as his representative while he took a trip.
@lidaw.514510 күн бұрын
ooh this sounds interesting, is there a source so i can read up on this more?
@tehdipstick3 жыл бұрын
Disney: We're gonna cut "I'll Make A Man Out Of You" from the movie because it's sexist. Me: B-but isn't that kind of the point? The juxtaposition of hearing the gender-biased lyrics while at the same time being shown Mulan doing as well in her training as the men? Disney: Too subtle. Let's just make Mulan superhuman and incredibly skilled from the start. Strong female characters shouldn't have to struggle or grow. They should be put on a pedestal.
@karlarao87363 жыл бұрын
Couldn't have said it better 👏 🙌
@adzukibean21903 жыл бұрын
I’ll make a man out of you was FIRE! Damn you Disney! Just give us a shirtless man who sings! Can’t I just have this one?!
@ReyndommVideos3 жыл бұрын
A pedestal where, *crucially*, actually human beings cannot get to them. You cannot aspire to be a superhuman magical hero lady; it's not attainable. "We can't give actual women or trans or non-binary people (or any other oppressed group) a decent role model that they can aspire to be. That would give them more sociocultural recognition and actually empower them."
@discordiadingle32033 жыл бұрын
@@ReyndommVideos I feeeel that. I really *really* want to like Captain Marvel, but her only flaw was a damaged memory. They made her so powerful, they couldn’t even put her in most battles because there would be no struggle. And when she was in the battles and struggled, it didn’t feel accurate to the amount of power they gave her.
@ReyndommVideos3 жыл бұрын
@@discordiadingle3203 Saddest thing about Captain Marvel to me was how boring it was. I was never interested or engaged in it. It was profoundly wrote and unsurprising and there was basically no tension whatsoever. And then I think about how much money was spent on it and I just feel angry.
@kettle_called_black49994 жыл бұрын
"that is some white person tattoo nonsense" this movie in a nutshell
@eldritchcupcakes31953 жыл бұрын
Like I’m 100% white and know that chi isn’t a superpower from a year of karate, yet these people who claim to have done extensive research act like it is?
@poison_raine52193 жыл бұрын
one time I saw a white person with a tatoo 大傻逼 and I nearly fell over in the middle of the street in nyc
@poison_raine52193 жыл бұрын
@@mary-bethholland2871 it means big stupid uhhhhh bleeeeeeeeeeeeeppppp it can be interpreted in many different ways depending on your region
@bluet77773 жыл бұрын
@@poison_raine5219 LMFAO YOU’RE KIDDING 😭 that is hilarious
@poison_raine52193 жыл бұрын
@@bluet7777 sadly i am not. I feel bad for that person if he ever visits china
@ButterflyScarlet4 жыл бұрын
It's kinda wild that they marketed this as a "yay, girl power!" movie and yet the two main female characters are only strong warriors because of obvious magic. Wow, glad to know the only way for women to advance in the world is if we were born lucky. *EDIT:* They talk about how the witch had to work her way up to being that powerful, that it took years and she suffered for it (which honestly sounds like a way more interesting story lmao) but she dies in the most pathetically pointless way possible.
@illustryfe53544 жыл бұрын
That's what I was saying though! Jeez....Why they gotta do Mulan and in general, half the world population, like that...
@CidGuerreiro12344 жыл бұрын
They also butcher the message in the original film, that girls could achieve anything if they worked hard for it, and worked together with their friends. Here the message is that you can achieve anything if you're born perfect and invincible, lol.
@SnowyWolborg4 жыл бұрын
Right?? The "Chosen One" aspect that they added completely took away from what made Mulan cool in the Disney version. She earned the Shang, Yao, Ling and Chien Po's respect because she worked hard and came through when it mattered. Not because she was just born better. _How_ did the writers and director think people were gonna buy this shit and not roast it?
@arcticgem28004 жыл бұрын
that's cuz every Disney villain is destined to die even if they are redeemed
@LaurianeG.4 жыл бұрын
Or it's not even framed right. Like okay, you could have played this angle: somebody is gifted, but nobody takes her seriously because she's a girl. It's simple, but it would be a start. But nope! I mean after all, we accept super powered characters in lots of fictions .... to be fair, stuff like 80s actioner will get snickers for it too but let's not derail too much.). I can understand why poeple might dislike characters which are too strong or "pure" (it's why some poeple dislike superman for instance), but done right they can be used as sort of icons you look up to: there are always ways to be clever about it and make it work, make it part of the point, of the story, make commentary on it, etc. Point is..... I think the question is more context and execution. Like first tought is, it feels out of place in the gritty tone of the film (because damn if disney ever let their live adaptations "feel" fantastical (like yay lion king but now ugly grey and brown with inexpressive characters! It might be incredible animation and effects, but it was just wasted.)
@nootcena6957 Жыл бұрын
15:42 Wtf is an auspicious moon? There is such a thing as an auspicious day. On auspicious days, there are weddings, haircuts, going on a long journey, trotting out the toddler, doing good deeds in the name of god, and etc.
@superzilla7844 жыл бұрын
Disney: Mushu is unrealistic. a talking dragon? lets be more serious Also Disney: Mulan now has magic and is fighting against a evil witch that can turn into a bird
@sarahstar30384 жыл бұрын
Yeah where did the witch and pheonix come from that doesn't even make sence.
@RobinundCobra114 жыл бұрын
Don't forget the arrow-kicking ☝🏻😂
@sarahstar30384 жыл бұрын
@@RobinundCobra11 Yeah I saw that and I thought that is impossible, more than the witch turning into a hawk 😂
@yaoibabe4 жыл бұрын
@midgetydeath nope, wish it was tho
@Frungi4 жыл бұрын
Fly a kite and call it a phoenix.
@ToruKun13 жыл бұрын
"Her chi is beyond imagining!" Sounds like the screenwriters learned everything they know about chi from Dragon Ball, MULAN'S POWER LEVEL IS OVER 9,000!!!!
@urbanzealot49583 жыл бұрын
This wasn't the DBZ live action film we deserved but it was the DBZ live action film we needed.
@pewdiepieismypapi9213 жыл бұрын
I wish they had stolen the character developement in DB too. Goku: I was the weakest child ever born in my planet. so my tribe discarded me. But I will train myself like hell and will become super hero. Moolan2020: I AM NOT OTHER GIRLS!!! IM INVINCIBLE AT BIRTH
@ToruKun13 жыл бұрын
@@pewdiepieismypapi921 LOL wow I totally forgot the Saiyans sent baby Goku to a backwater planet called..."Ee-yarth?" because he was so weak (thinking Earth would be easy for him to conquer), whereas 2020 Mulan is Broly. 😂😂
@tillydee9333 жыл бұрын
This comment wins. 😅
@mechasentai3 жыл бұрын
Darth Vader: “the Chi is strong in our family.”
@pastelsunset4 жыл бұрын
I hate how they excused cutting Shang as not wanting to portray rape culture or a toxic power dynamic, bc Shang and Mulan's relationship was literally 100% consensual and didn't even start until after the war was over. It wasn't a commanding officer abusing his power to force a girl into sexual interaction, it was two friends getting together in their own time bc they both liked each other. Disney probably just thought China wouldn't appreciate the bisexual undertones tbh
@Gabi-yc1gf4 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@Momocham234 жыл бұрын
There's was never any bisexual undertone. Shang was never interested in Mulan that way when she disguised as a man. He saw her as a comrade in the army and then asked her out when he realized she was a woman. Idk where people got Shang was bi. Yall interpret two dudes having some semblance of friendship = romantic and that's kinda encouraging toxic masculinity. Pls normalize men having friendship thanks. And as a side note, the whole "girl cross dress as dude and end up with male lead falling" for them is EXTREMELY common in asian media (Hana Kimi, Sungkyunkwan Scandal, Maiden Holmes etc). The month Mulan came out there were 2 Chinese dramas airing with woman disguise as man theme. The tired trope isn't play as the male lead is bi, it is more like he would always sense her "womanly pheromone" no matter how she disguise herself kind of thing since most of the time the actresses always look/behave feminine that they would never pass for a man realistic
@J_Lynn4 жыл бұрын
Jyuri is right, though it would be nice to have some more diverse representation, it's frustrating(as someone who is bi), when people see a friendship and forcefully interpret it as being romantic. Not everything needs to be about romance and, looking back, a romantic vibe wasn't really present in the cartoon, I don't think. That comment about "rape culture" is especially confusing.
@pastelsunset4 жыл бұрын
@@J_Lynn Ok yeah fair, the whole "Shang is bi" idea isn't accurate. It's more of a meme than anything tbh. As for the "rape culture" thing, that was my entire point: Disney claiming that's why they cut him is complete bs, since there really wasn't a romantic relationship between the two throughout the film.
@lumiukko42964 жыл бұрын
I think it was actually more believable that Mulan would get romantically involved with a fellow solder and not her commander. She spends all her days with other soldiers but she only sees the commander when he gives her orders. It makes more sense in that regard.
@jules36492 жыл бұрын
Mulan 1998: no matter who you are, if you work really hard, anything is possible. Mulan 2020: anything is possible if you have super powers
@biancat77614 жыл бұрын
They turned mulan into a superhero instead of telling a human story.
@BearMeOut4 жыл бұрын
Executive meeting: people love the Avengers, how about we make more of it?
@keyannalee24324 жыл бұрын
Damn
@Meri-Muru4 жыл бұрын
I love Marvel, but I wanted a Disney princess movie :/
@Bradyboy264 жыл бұрын
@Sean even a shot for shot line fore like remake of the cartoon mulan would have been better
@AngeliqueJDavis4 жыл бұрын
Yeah that was my issue with it, the Mulan cartoon was amazing. It taught young girls that they can become strong even if they aren’t at first. And to never give up even if you might be put matched. But this Mulan was like “Oh I’m already a strong warrior” it just lacked growth and that was sad.
@pastelcloudpainter4 жыл бұрын
All these reboots Disney keeps doing to make their films "more Feminist" just seem to make them more sexist instead
@erocenturion28094 жыл бұрын
Probably because what mainstream culture says is a "strong female character" is just a girl acting like a dude. :\ Most girls are feminine. Some are tomboys, sure (myself included), but there are just naturally a lot of differences between men and women. There's nothing wrong with that. We need to stop pretending there is. For instance, like Xiran mentions, the cartoon Mulan uses her wits to solve her problems. She's not naturally as physically strong as a guy, so she compensates by using her brain. Disney took that away in the 2020 movie, and now the character is bland. Come on Disney; you can do (and have done) better than this.
@carolleboxill40444 жыл бұрын
@@erocenturion2809 THANK YOU!! I don't want a movie to tell me I'm valuable because I can do the same things a man can, I want to know I am valuable for just being me, even if I like "girly" things. Girls need to know that "girly" things are valuable not that only boyish girls are. lol and I am also a tomboy but i hated any girly sides of me thinking it was useless.
@zumhoferpreiss77744 жыл бұрын
Exactly. It bothers me so much because all these feminist things they add just make the movies and characters bland and weird. Mulan is such a strong iconic character in the old movie. Why the hell did they have to change her? It makes no sense to me. Instead of making her train hard and just become strong, they had to add all that chi/qui (?) thingy and give her some sort of superpower gift? By doing that they're basically telling us that women need some strong chi/qui force to be as powerful as men. Like... that is not feminism at all. Also, the witch (had they just have her be a spirit) could have been such an awesome, strong character. The way she obeyed that bad guy despite being much more powerful than him and then just died really sucked.
@chillpeachie4204 жыл бұрын
Yesss like women being strong only because they’re born with it, no flaws, no character development
@akiishitster17424 жыл бұрын
Lindsay Elliss made a great video about this called "Woke Disney". The feminist part isn't exactly the main subject but it's one of the things that points out Disney's try-hard at pandering the modern generation
@Nosebluds4 жыл бұрын
When the witch says "not witch, warrior" all I can think of is Doofenshmirtz in the wizard of oz episode of Phineas and Ferb when he says "Not witch, warlock! It's a robe not a dress!"
@princessazulaofthefirenati58704 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@jaredwalley56923 жыл бұрын
Yeeeesss...
@akuraproductions35503 жыл бұрын
Isn't that also a qoute from The House With a Clock in it's Walls or am I just mixing the two up?
@jeffreygao39563 жыл бұрын
Kronk! Why did I think you could do this? This one simple thing!
@josephmatthews76982 жыл бұрын
Still haven't watched despite my unmitigated love and obsession with Chinese history particularly the Han dynasty. One thing I always loved about Chinese literature is the lack of boring "chosen one" storylines. You might get a portent or say something cool when you're young, Liu Bang's dragon and slaying of the white snake while drunk or Xiang Yang getting frustrated with swordplay because "Swords only let you beat one man I want to to defeat the world." But this always felt like "oh yeah cool things happened when you were young maybe we should have seen it coming" but they NEVER "get good" without busting their ass first. My only regret is that idiots in Hollywood instead of reading this as "this movie was bad" will interpret it as "America doesn't like or want East Asian storylines so we can't spend money on them for like another decade."
@testerwulf33572 жыл бұрын
Honestly I feel like the more likely response is "wow this didn't do good in asia which was the target of this movie..they must not appreciate our movies! Lets just avoid doing stuff on them so they don't get pissed at us for it"
@justinbowers2749 Жыл бұрын
Han Dynasty huh? Cool! I’m a Ming Dynasty guy myself
@waffles83644 жыл бұрын
They turned Mulan into a generic Western "Chosen One" story.
@shadowmoon16574 жыл бұрын
Most of these “chosen one” stories are Asian
@queer-ios31554 жыл бұрын
Which wouldn't technically be a bad thing, but pleeeaaase don't market it as culturally correct movie, because it wasn't. It was a fantasy story that kidnapped mulan's name and selective pieces of chinese culture.
@adam.n-steve4 жыл бұрын
@@shadowmoon1657 Wait, didn't she said that half of the Eastern Asian stories are "work hard to earn it" stories?
@usprulse4 жыл бұрын
Neo ~
@arichan75994 жыл бұрын
@@adam.n-steve yeah but mulan 2020 is about being a chosen one and not hard work to earn the trust and loyalty
@riakun4 жыл бұрын
"She'd be laughing at you from Chinese hell." That line was seriously on point. 👍
@viceroymarx4064 жыл бұрын
is that next to super mega hell with castiel?
@kjanaeblue4 жыл бұрын
@@viceroymarx406 cries in supernatural pulled the "bury the gays" trope
@kylefrank6384 жыл бұрын
My favorite was "FBI sword"
@t.h.mcelroy65974 жыл бұрын
I snorted aloud when she said it 🤣
@tgiacin4354 жыл бұрын
I actually want to look her up, I wonder what her reign was like if she’s in Chinese hell
@MuriKakari3 жыл бұрын
MULAN 2020: Let's get rid of I'll Make a Man out of You, it's sexist. Every little girl (and little boys too) inspired by MULAN 1998: *BELTING IT AT THE TOP OF THEIR LUNGS WHILE CLIMBING A TREE, PRETENDING TO SWORD FIGHT, FIGHTING WITH A FAN, OR BEGGING THEIR PARENTS TO SIGN THEM UP FOR MARTIAL ARTS*
@eyesofthecervino33663 жыл бұрын
I mean . . . the song ends with commander dude saying he _can't_ make a man out of Mulan, and then Mulan realizing she should do things her way and suddenly finding her footing and becoming an effective warrior. So. . . .
@uncertain_zee3 жыл бұрын
@@eyesofthecervino3366 right??? Like calling that song sexist is honestly being willfully ignorant of the purpose it serves in the story.
@rachelleredd88033 жыл бұрын
The song's entire purpose was to be sexist. It's an absolute banger, but yes, the lyrics are to be taken literally, and it's supposed to be sexist. You can't battle sexism in a world where you're too scared to set it up as an issue in the first place. Being afraid to set up a sexist society in a movie doesn't help fight sexism; it actually does the opposite by refusing to acknowledge the issue. This genuinely makes me mad. And, yeah, there's also just the fact that they removed the objectively catchiest Disney song in history
@thorndoll_523 жыл бұрын
@Rachelle Redd Forgive me if I read this wrong but- yes the song is ment to be sexist, but it's to show how the times were back then. Not to say that this is how we should think. Once again sorry if I read your comment wrong.
@rachelleredd88033 жыл бұрын
@@thorndoll_52 that's what I'm saying. My reply was basically a repeat of what you just said. I'm sorry, I could've made it more clear
@crowposting2 жыл бұрын
I fucking died when I realized that the cop apologist had an FBI sword because of course they gave the cop apologist an FBI sword.
@tillydee9333 жыл бұрын
Even as a white girl, I was offended by Mulan being "magical." I love Mulan because she is a normal girl who trained her butt off to places she was denied. It makes her impossible to attain. I prefer attainable heroes. Thank you for the information, because I honestly didn't know how inaccurate this movie was.
@nautilume71143 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@PrincessMavenKittyDarkholme3 жыл бұрын
2009 is better
@galactic_worm63933 жыл бұрын
exactly!
@rabidL3M0NS3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. As someone with blue eyes, I’m getting sick of all these new protagonists in movies being skilled and powerful right from the get go, with no character development. It happened with Rey in Star Wars. Disney just sucks.
@a_gal.in.your.basement3 жыл бұрын
@@rabidL3M0NS EXACTLY!
@alcerdemon97684 жыл бұрын
Westerners: You ruin the movie >:( Disney: Ho Ho of course you’ll think that you intolerant, we made this movie for the Chinese pe- China: **Bans the movie for how awful it is** Disney: ...
@sephandremanticore54384 жыл бұрын
Disney: well of course, China would ban this,we didn't make it for them. We made it for the gays, feminists, and cultural left!
@echowoods79774 жыл бұрын
@@sephandremanticore5438 bruh they worked with concentration camps why do you think this was for the left
@jairesemccoy97794 жыл бұрын
@@echowoods7977 because of the feminist message.
@ricksanchez57154 жыл бұрын
Alcer Demon China NEVER bans the movie.
@autumnlotus62504 жыл бұрын
@@echowoods7977 because the american left ignores the evils of other countries if they are POC. It's why no white liberals talk about the black slave trade in Libya, or how most middle eastern countries murder homosexuals legally
@delphidehavilland4 жыл бұрын
Getting a roast of a terrible disney movie AND a fascinating culture and history lesson in one video... iconic
@robosing2254 жыл бұрын
🙏
@katuni084 жыл бұрын
For sure! My first thought while watching Mulan was “how accurate is this?” Hey Disney! Stop patronizing us. We can handle other people’s cultures. As this review said, just a few tiny tweaks would have made this movie more accurate, which I suspect would have also given it some heart.
@jeffreygao39563 жыл бұрын
Xiran Jay Zhao is the Chinese equivalent of Shadiversity/Metatron.
@mikeor- Жыл бұрын
"We have no obligation to make history. We have no obligation to make art. We have no obligation to make a statement; but to make money. If we continue to make movies, we will inevitably make history, art, a significant statement, or all three. Yet all of these come from our only objective, and to make money is our only objective." -Michael Eisner, CEO of Disney from 1985 until 2001.
@digitaltailsmon4096 Жыл бұрын
At least they are honest. Still horrible but honest
@mikeor- Жыл бұрын
@@digitaltailsmon4096 Bob Iger is following the principles of Eisner. He also says that making money is Disney's only objective.
@officialmonarchmusic5 ай бұрын
First, I hate to be that guy, but it was 1985 to 2005, he was booted off the board of directors in 2001, but stayed CEO. Second, yeah, and honestly, at least Eisner knew that being creative was THE WAY to do that, whereas Iger sees brands and IP tie-ins and whatever else these CEOs like. He doesn't even know art when he sees it. Eisner literally even said to some of his close friends that he wasn't sure if Iger had the creativity for the position. (Not when he succeeded him as CEO, but when he took the second in command position after the passing of Frank Wells)
@caraYmii3 жыл бұрын
My favourite message is "if you're super gifted, naturally, you can succeed EVEN as a woman, but if you're an average woman (like Mulan's sister), you get to get married to some dude you've never met, and either way, support the patriarchy!" So empowering, truly. That movie was such a mess.
@pofromteletubbies12432 жыл бұрын
“What’s the matter little Stacy? Oh you want to play football with the boys but they think you’re too weak because you’re a girl? well too bad you don’t have supernatural abilities!”
@manjumohanty87942 жыл бұрын
@@pofromteletubbies1243 THIS! No one needs to have a "supernatural" power, and what the fuck is that even?
@pinkpinkmermayyy2 жыл бұрын
@@pofromteletubbies1243 mulan 2020 in a nutshell
@Kairos_Akuma2 жыл бұрын
@@manjumohanty8794 I feel they wanted to make it into what they perceived Wuxia to be like while keeping the Mulantopic in it.... and failed MIIIIIIIISERABLY.
@patriciafrancis15142 жыл бұрын
Remember ladies, the patriarchy doesn't exist. I know and I have the right to say this cause I'm a woman well fifteen year old girl using my mother's phone to type this comment even though I have an account😀😅😐😐. (I wish I wasn't though. Being feminine sucks. I hate this gender. 😤😝😡😠). Just remember that😘
@spoopyd.89104 жыл бұрын
That movie brought dishonor to not just my family's cow, but to EVERYONE'S family cow. Truly dishonorable.
@thosechocolatebrowneyes4 жыл бұрын
or Mushu's famous line : down, Bessy
@jamilstopleftsnake49004 жыл бұрын
Spoopy D. I actually have a “family cow” (gots a farm)... I’ll have to go ask for forgiveness.
@BlueBoxRevan4 жыл бұрын
Moo.
@Red-Magic4 жыл бұрын
Underrated comment
@sairapoleon32154 жыл бұрын
I understand you😂😂😂
@tex41393 жыл бұрын
My teacher was planning on using this movie as an example of certain aspects of Chinese culture. He knew that the movie was inaccurate, so I sent him this video, and he just messaged me that he’s changing the test and lecture :)
@xhagast3 жыл бұрын
He could still use the first Mulan movie. It had enough to work with. And a lot of a better watch.
@inkheart1513 жыл бұрын
This is rude. And she’s made a video on that too.
@katefresina8323 жыл бұрын
Or he could use Mulan: Rise of a Warrior, which was made by an actual Chinese director. It's really close the the Ballad.