Multi-generational living becoming more common in Canada

Some families say multi-generational living is one solution for more affordable housing in B.C. The province says new legislation will make it easier to accommodate multi-generational families in secondary suites and laneway homes.
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[@user-rz8zd1xb2n]

Because people can not afford to survive, not because they WANT to

[@Anonymous.Wisper]

Immigration also

[@guigram1124]

In a few years CBC will be reporting multi-generational tents in BC

[@Seriesediitz]

😂😂😂

[@kirkjong2748]

CBC should do its next segment on how Canadians eating out of garbage cans is a solution to high grocery prices.

[@lapraxi]

A multi-generational one bedroom apartment

[@peej91]

As an option great ! But this is not normal… and not the standard of life we grew up wanting to have. The Canadian dream is a system no longer worth paying into

[@flowmovementtherapy2096]

If you look at our ancestral environment this is completely normal and natural. Living in groups of related individuals and sharing resources and tasks was how we lived for hundreds of thousands of years. Living in large anonymous cities away from relatives is very strange for our brains and biology.

[@peej91]

@@flowmovementtherapy2096 ancestral environment is completely different than today. And you’re completely missing the point. The current system we’re all trying to be apart of is no longer giving us what we need/want.

[@02nupe]

@@peej91 its like this in nearly every developed country unfortunately

[@peej91]

@@02nupe nah not in Japan.. in most of u.s. it’s at least doable. There’s a lot of places not like this.

[@02nupe]

@@peej91​​⁠yeah Japan has a declining population and has its own problems with that. It’s a lot more developed places with a housing problems than not. Japan is an exception and not the norm . Australia, United States, parts of Europe are all having housing issues.

[@user-us8hy5bp2v]

Next they will be promoting 25 guys living in a basement and urinating on the streets 😢

[@semiramis47]

Ooooh - just like in the 3rd worid - our new millons should feel right at home

[@rosssmith8481]

Leaving Camada will be common.

[@bradcanning875]

To go where? it's global in the western world.

[@rosssmith8481]

@bradcanning875 There are lots of countries that have very little inflation. You could stay in a luxury hotel in Thailand for a month and it would only cost you $400. Western countries are trying to convince the public inflation is global and everywhere is expensive. But many people in Canada are already making plans to escape.

[@rosssmith8481]

@bradcanning875 Oh and Thailand has better medical than Canada.

[@bradcanning875]

@@rosssmith8481Yes I see the line-ups for the airport counter to a new life in Thailand. Inflation comes and goes. You snowflakes have never seen a recession or 16% interests, A dead economy and job market with cheap houses everywhere but no buyers. I see new cars everywhere and shopping mall parking lots full every weekend. If your life is a failure it's not anyone's fault but your. Canada has always been a country of opportunity. Now it's one of entitlement. That's so pathetic.

[@rosssmith8481]

@bradcanning875 That's too bad you feel that way. I'm going to be selling in Vancouver, but I am holding out for a developer offer, because you can double your money. I only used Thailand as an example because you can buy extended medical there and they have world class hospitals. I know someone that needed some laser surgery here in Vancouver. He was quoted $6,000 for the procedure. So he went to Thailand for 2 weeks and got it done for less than half. That includes paying for the trip. Even people where I work at have left the country and their positions have not been filled. So it's already started.

[@abcdedfg8340]

I think its a nice option to have for people who want family support and whose parents want to be more involved in their lives, like in some cultures, but its definitely good to have enough space for each person to feel comfortable. But pretending like this is a choice is not really very honest. Many of our parents could buy houses or apartments on their own salaries, so having to live with one's parents out of financial necessity is a symptom a society that has very badly suppressed wages and benefits, and overpriced housing. Meaning instead of raising wages with productivity, our society appears to have prioritized wealth accumulation for decades, leaving younger generations who are more vulnerable to bad rental situations in the dust in many cases. I support immigration, but they really need to slow it down so we can get to know each other better as a community and residents whether local or newcomers can have a reasonable standard of living. All my opinion.

[@weszillich5050]

No more immigration until housing is fixed

[@garionporter5961]

AT this point I would call for a HALT on all immigration - the negative effects of this past surge are just starting to be realized. Sadly, JT shows no signs of slowing down: they want 1M/year (mostly from India!)

[@jeanallan8106]

@@garionporter5961There’s such a labour shortage though. I say doctors, or nurses get in automatically. Same if you’re willing to do child, or elder care. I would imagine we need to keep the workforce growing to fund CPP too.

[@user-rz8zd1xb2n]

Because people can not afford to survive, not because they WANT to . But, whyyy are we a Nation of immigrants??!! 😂

[@ENTHUSIASTICFIFAFAN]

Because government wants free tax revenue~~~~

[@robertlan222]

So that our corporations have access to cheap labour.

[@strawberries217]

​@@robertlan222 Not necessarily for cheap labour, there are jobs that local Canadians are not qualified. They want to bring more greater talent individuals from outside.

[@user-ei9kw1yu9i]

What about singles who don't have family? Where are they supposed to live if they don't have family or others? Are they to be in everyone else's basement? Geee... great job Canada!

[@garionporter5961]

Honestly singles cannot afford (never really could) anything without room mates or being in a couple - getting an apartment. The "home/house" was classically for the married couples - one or both bread winners. If apartments (??rooming houses>?) are built to accommodate just a low-earner (minimum wage) worker - they will be quite small. Cities in China/Japan do this - often with sq' around 100. Thats like a modest bedroom with a bathroom. Sadly, cities are doing this more and more - so "the good life" is for the rich - or moving to a small town. (or shacking up with 1 or 2 more people)

[@bensanderson7144]

my grandfather bought a home in north Vancouver, and he raised his 7 kids there. And he did it all on a carpenter’s wage. My father also bought a home in north Vancouver, and he raised us three kids there, my mom never worked. I’m 55 years old, never married, no kids, and I rent an apartment in Victoria. The Great Replacement isn’t a conspiracy theory; it’s real

[@garionporter5961]

Honestly, I'm not conspiracy person at all - but I think these idiots (politicians - worldwide) are doing in for the $$. Nevermind the corporations that get rich by this.

[@islandgal500]

My relatives did this in Europe in early 1970s. Upstairs were the grandparents (original homeowners) and their one son and his family lived downstairs in a big house that was renovated. Of course the elders eventually die and leave the whole house to the next generation. The grandparents were there to babysit when the parents were at their jobs and grandparents got any care they needed and financial support.

[@Bunny11344]

Ya my coworker who is from India told me she lives with her mother and mother in law. They save $ on childcare

[@abcdedfg8340]

Makes sense. Europe has alot less space.

[@MrAlen6e]

@abcdedfg8340 but culturally is part of it as well ( less in English households)

[@abcdedfg8340]

@@MrAlen6e Thats like saying japanese choose to live in tiny houses. Sorry but if given the choice, most people want some space for themselves. Just my opinion.

[@islandgal500]

@@MrAlen6e Very true. I lived only a few minutes away by car and the 3 times a week I visited my parents was never enough for them. They grew up where families who even lived in separate housing visited family nearly daily.

[@12345678hgjghjvg]

awesome, can't wait for more carbon tax in april

[@TheShpmusic]

Terribly terrible.

[@Crowback354]

Importing Indian culture and forcing it upon Canadians. Difference is they live like that because they are too many people in their country we will live like that because the rich and politicians have destroyed the country.

[@sharinglungs3226]

They also brought their culture of scamming and fraud. That’s how so many without the income qualify for homes they can’t afford and love our no capital gains tax on principal residences.

[@yingyang1875]

They live like that because it a farming culture.

[@abcdedfg8340]

@@yingyang1875 That and they have way more people in way less space. So no other options in many cases.

[@yingyang1875]

@abcdedfg8340 true same thing with Canada lots more space and a declining population.. India doesn't need more "Man power" but Canada does

[@garionporter5961]

@@yingyang1875 No we don't. Think of a population "cap" or "freeze": the economy would slowly stabilize and the country could strengthen. Politicians would have us believe "diversity is our strength" but its not. It just dilutes Canadian culture and values. Really - opens up too many holes that are exploited by more eager (and desperate) cultures. Is that wise?

[@samoday2992]

Yeah lets all live like Indians ….

[@karentoffan7027]

That's the plan.

[@yingyang1875]

You don't have too but if you work an average job, you most likely won't get ahead in todays society... the middle class has grown tremendously in 3rd world countries.. the globalization effect is here and if you work a simple Job that anyone can do, you won't get ahead you will just get by doing 40 hours.

[@samoday2992]

@@yingyang1875 a simple job in this day and age is at a desk . Anyone can do those jobs and now with AI a lot of ‘simple’ tech jobs will go away . A proper job will be real skills that seem to of been lost with this generation

[@yingyang1875]

@samoday2992 capitalism has exported all industries for cheaper production cost and labor cost. The only thing that's kept up is city jobs, health care, and tech. Most mom n pops businesses have been completely obliterated. If you live in Canada, you are better off working for a union.

[@samoday2992]

@@yingyang1875 yep its weird when the best paid people work for the city …. Civil servants should not make mote then the general population. Tech here is Almost non existent.

[@prashanthsubburam1605]

In my street there r 3 multigenerational family with 3 gen living under one roof and out of which two of them are white and one south Asian, they all seem to be happy. This is only a good option if you have a good strong family.

[@garionporter5961]

all one house?? what ethnicity??

[@D4rkBl4de]

So much for what my parents told me was gonna be a great quality of life when I was a kid.

[@bolero4554]

Like an ostrich sticking its head into the ground.

[@bernardocastro1046]

What part of Italy are they from?

[@truebrowncanadian]

They are just tanned italians or greeks though.

[@Barvey26]

Um, that’s because there’s more and more Indians living in Canada. It’s not a Canadian thing. It’s an Indian thing. Soon this country will be india Jr

[@KH-hc6sy]

They act like we don't have land here

[@garionporter5961]

Not in the Valley (BC) limited room! hence the real estate prices.

[@dylanbishop1940]

Apartment buildings are kinda the same thing🎉🎉🎉

[@islandgal500]

Except the mortgage is already paid off or close to it instead of bleeding money to a landlord.

[@sharinglungs3226]

We have a naturally declining population which in turn means housing gets cheaper. The fact we have expensive homes and talk of needing more supply should tell everyone the demand is artificial and is controlled by the government and its importation of people. Control that to more sustainable levels and get back to targeted importing of people of specific professions. You also need to fix the mortgage and real estate business to root out money laundering and fraud. Need to start seizing properties and proceeds of sale from real estate purchased by illicit activities.

[@samoday2992]

Bang on the money . The extreme left are so scared to say whats true .

[@garionporter5961]

I agree - but EZ profitable fix is : BRING IN THE IMMIGRANTS!

[@nikaa4237]

The goverment is going to push multi generational home design big time. Not only because of high home prices. But to ensure your grandparents do the childcare instead of the goverment providing childcare through higher taxes. Also keeping your elderly parents in your home and hiring home care is cheaper than putting money money into long term care homes. This isnt third world this stuff used to happen in the West less than 100 years ago.

[@Don-ex5ih]

Keep pumping more immigrants 😂

[@vividvideos6087]

Trending now, we'll soon live in communal barracks

[@garionporter5961]

own nothing and be happy (AKA shut up and stay in your unit) >:(

[@destinyschild5768]

I’m doing this with my mom but in a one bedroom apartment…. It shouldn’t be this way

[@garionporter5961]

wow should have a 2 bedroom - for about $1600 (thats modest I would think!)

[@PrettyHazelEyedMLS]

This is the future for sure. Its already happening, as more do it, it will oneday be the standard of living and there will no longer be a stigma about 20 and 30 year olds still living with their parents, 18 year olds won't be kicked out anymore. And unfortunately or fortunately depending on how you view it, single adult living will be a thing of the past.

[@Oldeagle66]

It's never happened in my family. Everyone leaves at 18. Been this way for decades and still going on.

[@garionporter5961]

yeah - a blue collar/worker model - great for boom countries. (Which Canada was). But unless Canada re-thinks immigration...this madness will only get worse.

[@cdnsilverdaddy]

East Indians have been doing this for decades with minimal furniture to flip it later

[@carmenlajoie2719]

Where are the solutions? All in Beijing cooperation in Agricultural-Poverty alleviation-STEM Healthcare-Infrastructure Domestic manufacturing. CGTN The Point-Hub-Heat, Reporterfy Media-Cyrus Janssen

[@MrMannyhw]

Only for certain cultures!

[@NoneNone-yt6nv]

Thanks to immigration

[@morgantough]

Because we can't afford anything and the world is mean and hard even scary since not only is it safer , we hope not to starve or become homeless . And if not helping each other as a family then why do we call it family . it would be normal to the caveman that is how they survived , and how are we going to survive now when all odds are against you .

[@catherineto]

That’s a very good idea. Everyone get their privacy while close enough to take care of each other!

[@jpsion]

no, but can be a part of it.

[@zomgoose]

The Developing Country of Canazuela

[@abcdedfg8340]

Canada turned from a country of hope to the laughing stock of the world, it seems. Our living standards are effectively poverty level for much of our population, even in our middle class who often struggle with choosing between bills or food or rent even when they share accommodations with roommates. And many newcomers live in conditions little better than slums like closed balconies, living rooms, and shared rooms, while working as effectively cheap labour that probably grows to resent us, and may pay us back in kind through slum lords, which while not justifiable, is understandable. Just my opinion.

[@garionporter5961]

KHanistanada lol

[@JSRTales]

so you are boasting this wow 😮😮😮

[@dipro001]

Upbeat rosy background music making a sad pathetic nation crisis into something positive. Please stop this nonsense

[@johnnyboyvan]

How pathetic. Awful lives.

[@ashleyambrose1216]

Uhm no

[@pytle]

Like for Cookie

[@Anonymous.Wisper]

Why news piece like this? Because you will own nothing and be happy.

[@user-lt9pq9fr5z]

Housing crash is a solution. If it doesn't speed up soon just watch people leave who the cost of a micro condo here buys them a 3 bed two bath with a yard in a city that welcomes them and rolls out the red carpet for their skills. Losing friends to the few remaining cheap provinces or other countries each month. Going to be fun driving away the ppl our cities needs to function, but will never earn enough to buy a family house. Hey maybe there will be an uber platform we can exploit w cheap imported labour renting by the mattress in slumlord houses to keep operating rooms clean and running or an ambulance to keep you alive, or in home care for all the aging boomers who want to stay in their homes.

[@MrAlen6e]

Impossible in Canada, too many pension funds, and just like 2008 the banks are " two big to fail" or will be bailed out as they did before. A housing crash means economy calamity for this nation.

[@sharinglungs3226]

@@MrAlen6ehousing crash in Canada has happened before and is the best thing for the country to get rid of speculators and fraud in the market. Banks will be fine as they are well capitalized and just write off the bad loans. It’s worse if we keep on this path as housing will be a drag on economic growth and productivity.

[@bharatbhushan5730]

Multi generational housing system mày be à one option , joint family system is another option which will overcome the loneliness of grandparents as well as grandchildren along with saving of miscellaneous expenditure,, yes there may be need to educate to all concerned and some time psychologists sitting of and on when ever required, but this should be managed by the state

[@KH-hc6sy]

Wtf, is this even real?

[@rishi505]

Justin. t worse PM

[@ctawab]

Joint family system

[@tristanshears3048]

This made me really angry. Shame on you, CBC.

[@abcdedfg8340]

Your not the only one. Lots of local residents are angry, no need to be alone in your desire to have a reasonable living situation. Use our democracy, talk to others, dont suffer alone silently. We have human rights in canada like free speech, and its only through open discussion and not burying our heads in the sand that housing will get fixed. Just please do not make others suffer the same. Just my personal opinion.

[@yonathanmeza6931]

OMG

[@michellekirlew3425]

I don’t think so!

[@michellekirlew3425]

It’s for a different culture

[@edocms]

Just build free tiny homes for everyone who needs it.

[@garionporter5961]

put them where??

[@bryankerr9174]

Isn't this just poverty? Canada has become a poor country.

[@truebrowncanadian]

This is disgusting and @CBC should be ashamed of themselves for even trying to promote it.

[@MrAlen6e]

Pre wwII canada was pretty much this way until the post war boomer period happened and created the current standards. Canadians today seem to be on denial of the reality on the true cost that America suburbia model has , you cant have youre cake and eat it too. they want the same 1970s lifestyle when the reality is even if immigration is cut to 0, current statistics show theres just not enough supply. The fact of the matter is the utopian suburbia detach house is a false dream, we don't have the land, the price of materials are too high and the infrastructure is costly. Wether some realize or not the utopian suburbia model is death. Boomers created ridiculous housing bylaws and now they cannot downsize and their children and grandchildren will never afford a home in their own neighborhoods. Zoning bylaws and housing restrictions have singlehandedly destroyed home ownership for the Canadian middle class

[@sandywieringa4434]

You nailed it. Zoning bylaws and housing restrictions. Governments have gotten way too greedy.

[@sharinglungs3226]

The only thing I disagree with is you have to reduce immigration because without it you have a declining population. This will lead to more affordable homes as the boomer gen dies out putting many types of homes back on market. Many boomers don’t want to downsize. They don’t want to move and they don’t want to get rid of things they accumulated over the years. They’ve gotten very attached to their homes. With no immigration it destroys speculators base case for buying real estate. May even see less foreign investors if they see property values declining making it an unsafe place to park money. The only immigration we should target is professions we sorely lack. We’ll have to shut the door to migrants and illegal immigration.

[@samoday2992]

Yep lets ll live in high rises where community abounds and creates warm and pleasant surroundings for families . That was just regurgitated tripe that has not been thought through right?

[@bytesizedscreencasts]

The stupidity of American culture that each generation needs a new home has reach its peak. This was always ths solution whether you are in developed country or a developing. The reason any non-americans are successfully in North America is they have been following this principle. Brothers live together and buy a huge home. If parents already have a home in the city and the children are doing job there, they live together as long as possible.

[@abcdedfg8340]

I understand that, but the norm here has been for families to be able to afford their own place. If we lose that ability, we really have gone down the economic ladder in my opinion. Of course its easier to do it with family, but the idea is that we should not have to rely on them to be able to afford to live, especially since not everyone has access to a very supportive family. If we cant do that, then we definitely need to reflect on how far living standards have fallen. Dont forget, america and canada have people from all over the world, but not all have the same values, so its only fair in my opinion, if they work a decent job that they should be able to support a reasonable lifestyle for themselves with decent work life balance and reasonable paid time off and benefits. You also have people who are abused by their relative or their partners, and have no one to support them, and very often they end up in vulnerable situations when they decide they cannot live like that anymore. Just my opinion.

[@bytesizedscreencasts]

@@abcdedfg8340 "ou also have people who are abused by their relative or their partners, and have no one to support them, and very often they end up in vulnerable situations when they decide they cannot live like that anymore." This happens besides people having seperate homes. Newer times need newer solutions.

[@abcdedfg8340]

​@@bytesizedscreencastsSpousal abuse mainly occurs in one unit. As for relatives or others that can differ, so agreed on that. But i think there should be the affordable option for those who dont feel safe in a communal unit to be able to afford to live on their own reasonably well. Lots of solutions are in the works, i hope they get to fixing this housing crisis fast. Not everyone wants the same sort of living arrangements.

[@MrAlen6e]

​@@abcdedfg8340 your also need to realize this is not an issue the just came today, this is 30 years in the making, what do you think it would happen when you restrict the development on a neighborhood to maintain " character" that land will just increase. Post suburbia Canadians dotn realize the way housing has been built and developed is unsustainable in the sense that we don't have the land, it's costly to maintain and it requires resources that ad into the value of construction. Building auto dependent American suburbia was the worst mistakes this nation could have made in its 150 years of confederation.

[@abcdedfg8340]

​​@@MrAlen6eAlso, look at it from another perspective. If we actually had a country that valued affordable living costs and families, we could still take in a sustainable amount of newcomers and have a real chance to get to know them instead of scrambling to find affordable living or struggling to pay bills. I do think we really need to invest in real public transit in a long-term project, but i also think that not everyone can live near good transit. Even in europe, many small towns and cities are more accessible by car unfortunately. But transit works great in large and medium sized cities.

[@bradcanning875]

The entitled ones who think they should be able to buy a house where they grew up for 1970 prices and blame Trudeau if they can't are the loudest voice. Today is today and you learn to adapt.

[@MoonbeamBase]

Smells like boomer in here

[@MrAlen6e]

You created the current environment with the ridiculous bylaws and building restrictions that killed missing middle housing and preveted more supply in existing neighborhoods, all to drive prices and property values up. now you can't downsize nor your children and grandchildren will be able to be in the community they grew up with, what a legacy ....

[@alexg9727]

old boomer

[@bradcanning875]

@@alexg9727 Who enjoys a nice home and life because I started building at 16 and knowing whining and expecting entitlements are for the weak and failed ones. Pretty much what the last 2 generations are about.

[@alexg9727]

@@bradcanning875 a salary of 100k doesnt even afford a starter condo anymore. You're delusional