Multicam in Russian Army I Review of the Summer field sets VKPO 2.0 & 3.0 | BTK Group VS Triada TKO

[@Mr66D]

The devil himself: "Look how comfy and practical the uniform is, you know you want to join the multicam singularity" Me, EMR's strongest soldier: НИКОГДА!

[@froginthewaves8450]

0:54 Autumn 6SH122 EMR will live on in our hearts

[@RedIvanMilitaryEng]

Amen

[@surferofthesynthwaves4710]

I wondered what it was called

[@Kroq_Gar]

Its literally the best camo pattern for that part of the world, when dirtied, it blends in well with the muddy terrain. Multicam is a scourge on the earth!

[@froginthewaves8450]

@@Kroq_Gar frick multicam! (i actually like it but don't like everyone using it)

[@froginthewaves8450]

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR MAKING THIS VIDEO! I keep on hearing things in passing about the new VKPO Multicam, but there were like no videos on it. UNTIL NOW!

[@RedIvanMilitaryEng]

Happy to help

[@fridrekr7510]

I know Russia has been using Multicam for more than a decade at this point, I just can't help but think it's problematic when it's fielded across the whole army. I can see why using an enemy pattern could be beneficial for special forces and other small teams doing clandestine operations, like we've seen up until recently, but this just seems like a massive invitation for friendly fire etc. I guess they're only relying on the armbands in Ukraine, but even if that works, it makes it super easy to impersonate the enemy - you just need to keep both colours of tape in your bag. In the current war, I guess it's less of a problem since Multicam is more or less just the unofficial secondary pattern of both Ukraine and Russia, but if a conflict with NATO would ever happen, I feel like there's a pretty strong argument for the Russians wearing enemy uniforms if they mass issue Multicam. Again, this wouldn't be a problem for special forces, but this is being fielded to regular frontline units. It's also funny, because back in WW2 etc. they wouldn't even field uniforms or helmets that looked vaguely similar to the enemy, but today everyone are wearing the same FAST helmets, and Multicam uniforms and plate carriers in more or less the same design. It seems like a huge mess, but it just looks like Russia doesn't care about IFF at all (also with people within the same squad wearing different uniforms and camo patterns). A-TACS FG (Moss) could've been an obvious other choice for camo, but it seems like that's becoming increasingly associated with Rosgvardiya, even though other Russian units have worn and still wear the pattern. One good thing I've noticed about EMR is that it blends fairly well against exposed dark soil, such as in a trench or crater, while Multicam is far too bright and is easily seen from above by a drone etc. If Multicam ends up being a temporary solution, it'll be interesting to see whether Russia will develop a new pattern or use one of their older ones (such as SURPAT which has quite similar colours to Multicam) instead of just ripping off another Western pattern. It's 15 years since Russia last developed a pattern that actually saw some use (SURPAT and Spekter) I've heard your explanations for why they ended up with Multicam, I just can't understand how it was even seen as viable in the first place, rather than just using solid OD green etc. if they couldn't get anything made in their own pattern. If they need to plaster themselves in bright tape to tell each other a part from the enemy, the slight camouflage advantage of Multicam is lost anyway. But I guess everyone will now get to look like the cool FSB guys and that soldiers were privately buying commercial Multicam gear anyway.

[@0bserver416]

100% agreed. Atacs moss would be more suitable for vast majority of Russian and Eastern European terrain. Or they could bring some brighter elements to EMR and increase its pixels. I just hope Multicam is a temporary solution. But judging by the massive production, this temporary solution is going to last at least another 5-10 years. 😅

[@fridrekr7510]

@@0bserver416 The problem with Multicam is that most potential enemies of Russia use it. The effectiveness of Multicam shouldn't be downplayed, especially in the dry seasons (basically from late summer to early spring) on the steppe and tundra, whereas EMR is optimised for dark pine forests etc. like most of the older woodland patterns. If they wanted a light green pattern (like A-TACS FG or the EMR you propose) they already have the spring side of the 6sh122 oversuit which blends great with grass and leaves in the lush late spring and early summer. But that's a more specialised pattern compared to something based on brown like Multicam (or SURPAT). But light green patterns were also used in Syria with surprising effectiveness, so I don't think something like that would be less versatile than dark green EMR, it's just less versatile compared to Multicam.

[@Zimmy_yegor]

I’m not reading all of that

[@parusol235]

@@Zimmy_yegor tldr; also in layman’s terms IFF/identifying who’s who in a peer or near peer conflict is going to be extremely hard even more so with how everyone is practically using the same camp pattern. Hence why Russia and Ukraine utilize colored arm/leg/headbands

[@davidoblast8291]

I wish SURPAT makes a comeback, such an underrated camo pattern

[@farrazaulia2917]

Another great video man

[@RedIvanMilitaryEng]

Thank you

[@farrazaulia2917]

​@@RedIvanMilitaryEng Your welcome

[@wastestudios6389]

good video man, cant wait to see you guys back out on the field!

[@_c_y_p_3]

Making Ukrainian wildlife morbidly obese.

[@John-mf6ky]

In my opinion, Russia should have went with A-TACS. A very underrated pattern and already in use with some russian soldiers.

[@Daniel_Krivoshey]

atacs already used by Federal troops of national guard

[@KeithT1992]

I couldn’t agree more, I think ATACS is an incredibly effective pattern that would allow the Russian army to stand out from all the other multicam variations used by both Russia’s adversaries and the majority of the world’s modern militaries.

[@trygveblacktiger597]

So Russia and USA continues to have ADHD about their camo patterns.

[@ZacharyBurgard]

Yes

[@theodorekaczynski8147]

Russia try not to change camo patterns every few years and keep all the color and shape palettes consistent challenge (impossible)

[@yaya_is_real]

@@theodorekaczynski8147 I mean same for the us 😭

[@patriotenfield3276]

Exactly

[@AdolphusHitlerus]

@@yaya_is_real No not really. We keep most camos long term besides the last 19 years. Plus we have the money to keep doing whatever we want. Russia doesn’t 🤭

[@GuidoMillonezz]

Great video my friend, hello from Miami FL, USA.

[@RedIvanMilitaryEng]

Hello neighbor, I live in Aventura

[@thedoctorairsoft6813]

Multicam is a good camo but is overused by literally everyone. The uniqueness of multiple armed forces is replaced by it being all the same. it's like m81 woodland all over again.

[@RedIvanMilitaryEng]

Yea, like m81, I was thinking of it too.

[@thedoctorairsoft6813]

The good news is that just like m81 Woodland give it sometime like a few years or so and eventually Nations will start having their own camo patterns again @@RedIvanMilitaryEng

[@Redacted_Actual_]

M81 is still 🔥 🔥 It will always be my favorite. It's what I grew up with and what my father wore.

[@thedoctorairsoft6813]

@@Redacted_Actual_ Trust me I like m81 as well, but everyone using the same thing no matter what it is makes it not cool anymore

[@petervonfroster8i]

i would say WAAAAY worse then M81... take Airsoft, "Larpers", Private Shooters, etc. into it, and Multicam has an even worse taste lul Camomarxism is what i call that haha

[@AguirreA.]

Great video as always!!!

[@RedIvanMilitaryEng]

Thank you

[@VolkZ-wl4ci]

As an American with lots of G99, it seems TRIAD-TKO's VKPO 3.0 is made for combat and war, while VKPO 2.0 is made for Parades and lining of Generals. Also if you are wondering, Gruppa 99/TRIAD-TKO bases their uniforms off of Arc'teryx LEAF uniforms.

[@Sumsar333]

Ivan, I would love to see some videos on equipment for more specialist roles such as Anti Tank, Machine Gunner, etc. and how they are different compared to standard riflemen.

[@RedIvanMilitaryEng]

No resources available

[@froginthewaves8450]

Incase anyone is wondering the intro song is Тени от пальм by Второй Ка

[@ProfessionalMusician74]

Never expected you to make this video :0

[@RedIvanMilitaryEng]

I am unpredictable

[@finnvonfalco1882]

Very interesting video like always! But all I could think of the whole time was: "god I hate multicam" and "Flora was the last effective russian pattern" 😂

[@RedIvanMilitaryEng]

I like EMR

[@Sovietblade5.45]

I believe the emr camo is the best and the ratnik armour is good

[@andrewblackmore3150]

Great video mate, A whole new confusing system to learn....oh goody :)

[@RedIvanMilitaryEng]

Thank you. And no one knows for how long they will stay :)

[@coldwarmilitaria6593]

Another very interesting video!

[@Shadow_3-1]

Another great video as usual but it’s sad to see another country using the overused multicam

[@RedIvanMilitaryEng]

It is not forever

[@Shadow_3-1]

@@RedIvanMilitaryEngvery true

[@autisticANDarmed]

@@RedIvanMilitaryEng EMR in multicam colors! Like multitarn being germany's off volor flecktarn.

[@DrLivesey1988]

@@RedIvanMilitaryEng what will replace it and when?

[@cyngaethlestan8859]

Thank you for a good video. I'm not entirely sure why I watched it as I haven't worn combats for over thirty years but it was interesting to see a good, extensive review of a modern set. These are so far away from the my set of (British 1980s) DPM combats that it seems more like three hundred years. Some things in these sets are very good indeed but bloody velcro everywhere. As to the multicam I am not, and never will be convinced by the idea of one universal camouflage pattern, it just guarantees always having an okay pattern for most environments also todays prevalence of multicam like camo' could, and somewhere will, cuase 'problems.'

[@kevinstrade2752]

I love the Ratnik equipment. Where i live in the US summer is very green, Ratnik emr is very effective. Fall and spring a multi-cam is more effecive as there are lots of browns, then white for winter obviously. Did Russia abandon the green emr Ratnik pattern?

[@RedIvanMilitaryEng]

No they didn’t, on the May 9 parade everyone was wearing VKPO 3.0 suit in EMR. I live in Florida, here EMR summer works all year.

[@JustAdude291]

I hated multicam for so long because of how overused it was, but I live in a US desert and multicam actually is the most effective with all the dark browns and earth colors, so I folded and got a set of multicams

[@VolgogradProductions]

So glad multicam won’t be staying I hope we get emr back.

[@antonkravets5026]

Don’t worry, ‘comrade’ You won’t get anything

[@VolgogradProductions]

@@antonkravets5026 the cope is real

[@farrazaulia2917]

Where the link to the VKPO 2.0 brochure/site?

[@RedIvanMilitaryEng]

Talk to your subordinates like that.

[@farrazaulia2917]

​​@@RedIvanMilitaryEng ? Sorry if i offend you im just asking beacuse you said you gonna add it in the description and i cant seem to find the brochure site in the Internet that why i ask you sorry if i offend

[@ChronicAndIronic]

i would love to see you cover to AOR2 Navy Seal Pattern

[@RedIvanMilitaryEng]

Not in the nearest future

[@farrazaulia2917]

Can you give the link for the VKPO 2.0 Website?

[@RedIvanMilitaryEng]

I will add it to the description later

[@farrazaulia2917]

​@@RedIvanMilitaryEng Nice

[@farrazaulia2917]

Wheres the link? i cant find it in the description​@@RedIvanMilitaryEng

[@hardspecialist]

Hello comrade! Great video, Regards from Brasil.

[@RedIvanMilitaryEng]

Thank You.

[@ItsAFarce]

After reviewing this do you think this is better than thw older VKPO set?

[@RedIvanMilitaryEng]

Yes, absolutely

[@r3dunt3r]

Really nice video Ivan . Just a little request , if you like the idea . Would you like meke a video about guerrillas/ militias load outs ideas ? For example, anarchists groups, the IRA , YPG ecc ecc .

[@RedIvanMilitaryEng]

Hi, have such plans, but not for nearest future.

[@fridrekr7510]

Are there any differences between the issued and commercial variants of these? I’ve atleast heard about some between the commercial Triada TKO and the issued VKPO 3.0, but I haven’t found any links. Are any of these more common than the others? I’ve by far heard most talk about the 3.0, but that could just be because it looks more distinctive. And thank you very much for the video. There’s been a lot of talk about the VKPO 3.0 and a lot of pictures of it shared in the Russian reenactor groups, but I didn’t know about the other two or all the details of the program.

[@RedIvanMilitaryEng]

I don’t think VKPO 2.0 is even available commercially yet, speaking about Triada I don’t know. In my experience I see VKPO 3.0 more often with Marines and Airborne, VKPO 2.0 used by higher officers. VKPO 4.0 did not even see yet on the pictures.

[@sebjones1566]

Would have had buttons instead of velcro for the field. Velcro falls apart after sometime.

[@RedIvanMilitaryEng]

Amen

[@Sajasta]

Hey Ivan, I have a question, would a tropical multicam uniform blends well when combined with EMR loadout? Like, would the tropical multicam stands out too much than the EMR? Or would it be dark or green enough that it would somewhat passed?

[@RedIvanMilitaryEng]

It will stand out.

[@Sajasta]

@@RedIvanMilitaryEng I see, thanks for the info!

[@Dmac6969]

Would you consider the russian VKPO layer 8 in EMR high quality?

[@RedIvanMilitaryEng]

I would call it the best thing available after American one. But my level of experience on the winter uniforms is limited, I live in Florida

[@Dmac6969]

@RedIvanMilitaryEng fair enough. Personally, I dislike the ECWCS level 7. It isn't durable enough and the idea that only needing that type of insulation layer is when your static is wrong. But I live in northern alberta. And work outside in the winter. I currently have the Canadian ICE suit. But not super impressed with the build quality (stitching,zippers,fit,etc) compared to other items I've worn in the ECWCS layering system

[@WilliamAshleyOnline]

Very througough, wonder if they can make an edible version of the padding?

[@12226]

Will you ever do a video on soviet and russian footwear? It's such an undocumented field, finding objective information is very hard. Not much beyond nicknames like derevyashki, krokodili, lightweights...

[@RedIvanMilitaryEng]

Problem is that Russian boots do not have oficial models too, except 1981 model ( derevyashki)

[@12226]

@@RedIvanMilitaryEng That's true, I also think it's possible to mistake civilian boots for military boots sometimes.

[@pilotmanpaul]

EMR will always be the best Camo of the modern Russian Army. RIP EMR.

[@RedIvanMilitaryEng]

It says I will be back

[@subcomandantetroncos6914]

the cut of Gardarika Company is copied from the G99 combat uniform cut that has been around since at least 2016. G99 copied from arc'teryx. In fact the VKPO 3.0 is a rebranded G99 combat set.

[@jerryrichards8172]

How do we get these Russian camouflage in America?

[@RedIvanMilitaryEng]

Ask Nick. facebook.com/shapkinnikolai?mibextid=LQQJ4d

[@whybother8400]

Where do you get it? I'm interested in getting my hands on the EMR VKPO 3.0

[@RedIvanMilitaryEng]

It is not something you can easily get.

[@troy-gy2oh]

Where do I buy this?

[@RedIvanMilitaryEng]

Ask Nick facebook.com/shapkinnikolai?mibextid=LQQJ4d

[@sebjones1566]

Still using EMR ?

[@RedIvanMilitaryEng]

Yea

[@danielmakac583]

I think the gorka suits were a better fit for the Russian army. Good for all terrain environment and better to have one type of uniform for the army.

[@RedIvanMilitaryEng]

It is at least 20 years outdated technology by now.

[@danielmakac583]

@@RedIvanMilitaryEng old but gold as the saying goes. They can always update the suites for improvements. But then again it's just my opinion. Haha

[@khrisforleone]

bro is in an hovoboard

[@razorspetsairsoft2538]

I managed to receive a vkbo 3.0 rain set but it doesn't fit me, I'm disgusted :')

[@RedIvanMilitaryEng]

It’s life, are you looking for one?

[@razorspetsairsoft2538]

@@RedIvanMilitaryEng I'm trying to get the full set hahaha except the armor

[@RedIvanMilitaryEng]

@@razorspetsairsoft2538text my friend facebook.com/shapkinnikolai?mibextid=LQQJ4d

[@todddick3655]

Imagine meeting an American and happy calls you a coy cat

[@RedIvanMilitaryEng]

I live in America, but didn’t get a single word you said. What language do you speak?

[@todddick3655]

@@RedIvanMilitaryEng I was trying to say that he called you a copyer

[@RedIvanMilitaryEng]

@@todddick3655 who did I copy?

[@RedIvanMilitaryEng]

@@todddick3655 ah you are joking about Multicam and copy, I got it now, sorry, too complicated joke for a foreigner.

[@ArthurCleveland-d1g]

Scottie Route

[@Floppa_eslavo]

Vast Curious

[@SKARA101]

Funny Russia pushing the idea western equipment is inferior yet copies the whole multicam pattern 🤣🤣🤣

[@RedIvanMilitaryEng]

They just needed uniforms fast, in pattern that works on the terrain. Now they are partially back to EMR and adopting a new pattern

[@Kroq_Gar]

@@RedIvanMilitaryEng is 6SH122 being phased out?

[@RedIvanMilitaryEng]

@@Kroq_Gar not yet. Entire Ratnik is still being produced and issued. It is just less common with the SF and other front guys.

[@Kroq_Gar]

@@RedIvanMilitaryEng Thank you for the video and for the reply! You have great insight. I hope the MoD doesn't get rid of it, it's a great pattern mixed with EMR.

[@RedIvanMilitaryEng]

@@Kroq_Gar they are adopting EMR-M soon, which is very similar

[@Divano-qw2sb]

EMR was much cooler (visually). Change my mind

[@mosesnoble5236]

Everyone going multicam I guess

[@RedIvanMilitaryEng]

If Russia keeps Multicam NATO will may need to develop new camo.

[@mosesnoble5236]

@@RedIvanMilitaryEng yes it will be a pain too since a lot off nato countries have just recently switched too multicam

[@Anarcho-harambeism]

this seems like a stupid idea, now they're just gonna have more ff incidents, sure, steal our camo, that wont have any consequences

[@RedIvanMilitaryEng]

They fight with people having the same faces, speaking the same language ( for the most part) and using the same weapons, there is already enough friendly fire.

[@sullathehutt7720]

​@@RedIvanMilitaryEng All the more reason for a different uniform, rather than brightly contrasting IFF armbands that negate camouflage.

[@surferofthesynthwaves4710]

Tell me where to get the Telnyashka combat shirt with the old school flora camo right now, please!!! My wallet is ready to be abused!

[@RedIvanMilitaryEng]

Unfortunately the guy made it for me is now in army, maybe ones he is back

[@surferofthesynthwaves4710]

@RedIvanAirsoftEng it's a very good opportunity to make meme combat gear

[@AzysAnimzimr]

Shit, i forgot you got EN channel, still good video tho

[@oberkommandowest4836]

They should have went with ATACS-FG instead of Multicam, Multicam just makes them look American and deletes the unique look of the Russian Military

[@RedIvanMilitaryEng]

Unique look is the last thing army cares about, as long as it is not increasing friendly fire.

[@oberkommandowest4836]

​@@RedIvanMilitaryEngis EMR going to be phased out by VKPO?

[@RedIvanMilitaryEng]

@@oberkommandowest4836 watch the video till the end