Multituberculates of the Known World

Multituberculates were a clade of mammals successful throughout the Age of Dinosaurs and into the Cenozoic. In Kaimere, they persist into modern times with a wide range of families. Though many giants are found in Kairul, most in the known world are quite small.
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[@MrT_Rex]

Rodent : who are you ? Multituberculate : I'm you but better

[@bewtspeeder]

It’s nice to have an episode about multituberculates, it’s always felt like the mammals of the Mesozoic are swept under the rug in paleo media in comparison to the dinosaurs and marine reptiles. I like seeing these equally fascinating animals being represented in Kaimere!

[@lochness5524]

Can already imagine your reaction to learning about Adalotherium in prehistoric planet

[@dubuyajay9964]

Is this the era of the Monotherium? The largest land mammal to ever exist? The hornless rhino with a giraffe like neck and elephantine legs?

[@dubuyajay9964]

A whole lot of questions? ​@@lochness5524

[@dudotolivier6363]

Most mammals back then, during the Mesozoic, were very diverse indeed, but as most still look and were analogous in appearance and lifestyle to rodents or shrews, it's understandable that documentaries don't really stop on them.

[@deddasna]

​@@dubuyajay9964monotherium? you mean paraceratherium or something?

[@hinskiemaso9198]

When you mentioned that Lasuga is second biggest multituberculate in Known World, I was like: "Holly shit! Right, Bilaruk got redesign some time ago, oh crap I can't wait"

[@dudotolivier6363]

The "original Bilaruk", odd beast feeding in one side of the head, I think, it still canon to Kaimere but now restricted to Kairul's Inland Sea. While we will not see this one before a long time yet, I agree it still a very pleasant think to have this other dude that the now true Bilaruk is :)

[@hinskiemaso9198]

@@dudotolivier6363 yeah, I know that

[@Taste-k7q]

Perfect! All we need now is for one of these bois to train a small group of pizza eating mutated crime fighting turtles and Kaimere is saved

[@operandwriter]

Oh gosh. We do not need the Krang or Baxter Stockman getting their hands on Kaimeran magic

[@CoralReaper707]

Seeing Multituberculates still alive and kicking in Kaimere really feels like an alternate reality where Multituberculates on earth somehow hung on in a certain part of the world into the modern day

[@praetorianrex5571]

Evolution as an example of fate ❌ Evolution as an example of fighting against fate ☑️

[@juiceart9199]

100% agree, WWD did the fate thing in an annoying way

[@praetorianrex5571]

@@juiceart9199 it's been awhile since I last saw WWD. Could you refresh/elaborate, please?

[@josephlongbone4255]

You say this, but we and all other beings are fated to evolve into Crabs.

[@jessehunter362]

think it could be interesting for a group of shrikes or shrike-like birds to be especially good at feeding on the bad-tasting multies

[@dubuyajay9964]

Like some Aussie birds have learned how to safely feed on the invasive cane toad?

[@jessehunter362]

@@dubuyajay9964 ya, though more specifically like how shrikes feed on lubber grasshoppers, which are toxic, by letting them hang out impaled on spikes until they stop being toxic.

[@TalesofKaimere]

Indeed. Passertheres and spur rats aren't venomous, it's just their spurs and their fur. A shrewd predator could reliably work around that.

[@chadgorosaurus4898]

We need more speculative biology media about Multituberculate mammals. The possibilities are almost endless.

[@TalesofKaimere]

Oh absolutely!

[@viktordemenev9616]

Check out Multituberculate Earth, you might like it

[@Carlos-bz5oo]

My project Multituberculate Earth is about them

[@CoralReaper707]

Multituberculates really are odd little critters. Gondwanatheres and even Non-Mammalian Cynodonts also have so much speculative evolution potential

[@SCR_ProductionsYT]

Bro conjured up a multituberculate whale.

[@Stooltoad5017]

Not the weirdest he’s concocted. Have you seen the shoggoth? It’s the stuff of nightmares.

[@CoralReaper707]

@@Stooltoad5017 I just looked it up It is...Horrifying to say the least.

[@chancegivens9390]

Wow! There's a lot of amazing animals here. I like that the pouched rat gives the black rat a run for its money. Rats dont have enough proper niche rivals on earth. It caught me off guard by how different the Bilaruk looks now! I thought to myself " Holy shit!! Its like if a basilosaurus and gomphothere had the ol sea bound snu snu!" Im really digging the redesign.

[@IsaacJuett]

Um i don't even want to know what a "sea bound snu snu" is.

[@chancegivens9390]

@IsaacJuett Gotta watch Futurama to get the reference my good man

[@Nigel_BC]

Wow! The Bilaruk redesign looks incredible!! Can’t wait to learn more!!

[@TalesofKaimere]

Thank you!!

[@miquelescribanoivars5049]

You might not like it, but this is what peak mammal performance looks like.

[@brastionskywarrior6951]

the leviathans gave me a good jumpscare i did not expect to see that

[@TalesofKaimere]

Oh yeah they're freaky

[@beastmaster0934]

I totally forgot about the Bilaruk’s redesign. Can’t wait for its spotlight episode next week.

[@NP3GA]

When was first shown?

[@beastmaster0934]

@@NP3GA Either on his Twitter or Instagram, I can’t remember which specific site.

[@sivanlevi3867]

Wow, I really like these multituberculates, so variable in size and shape! The Lasuga reminds me of the Shagrat from The Future is Wild, except the Shagrat is an actual marmot relation. It's also fascinating how these critters have evolved and gotten a variety of niches for themselves. Also, I love the redesign of the Bilaruk! That's gonna be fun to watch!

[@dominicpizano887]

"Big if true" made me laugh... loved the second anthology! Keep up the good work and God bless!

[@TalesofKaimere]

Gotta keep it light sometimes you know? Thanks, and glad to hear it! Right back at ya!

[@griffinhunter3206]

bilaruk has changed greatly

[@TalesofKaimere]

Indeed!

[@griffinhunter3206]

@@TalesofKaimere i liked the big sideways lawnmower protocetid but i am very curious about the venom spiked whalerus

[@alghoulaj7172]

I'm glad these ancient mammals are still alive and some are thriving in the known world, although... Kairul became a bit too interesting. Hope one day we'll be able to have a journey there... And I'm so excited for the leviathan of Kaimere. The early cetaceans are one of my favorite mammals which are underrated.... To see a Multituberculate going the same body plan is just wonderful. Although, I now started to wonder more and more about the many wonderful and unique faunas of Kairul?

[@Iterator_NSH]

I NEED a video of all the sparrowmouse songs. I desperately want to keep a couple in my home. I *crave* sparrowmouse content.

[@CoralReaper707]

that would be fun :3

[@paleo-zoo-keeper-association]

Alright! This is one of the videos I have been waiting for 😁

[@TalesofKaimere]

Heck yeah! Quite overdue and there's still so much to say about their diversity in Kairul.

[@paleo-zoo-keeper-association]

@TalesofKaimere Can't wait and are any of the creatures we saw here gondwanatheria? I've recently got a little bit of an interest in these creatures for a couple of my projects.

[@dudotolivier6363]

@@paleo-zoo-keeper-association Gondwanatheres are currently indeed theorized to be part of Multituberculata, but so far isn't proved yet. Because of this, unless it's proved before it, making a video apart of Multis and dedicated to this clade would be preferable. But yeah, I would love to have Gondwanatheres being part of this order, mostly to made the latter having survived longer into Cenozoic.

[@TalesofKaimere]

@@paleo-zoo-keeper-association Unfortunately I don't think gondwanatheres coincided with any harvests (at least not the Cenozoic ones)

[@rileyernst9086]

Our hard core cousins who survived and thrived alongside dinosaurs in some of the toughest places on earth. Good to see they're going strong in Kaimere!

[@bignelly9476]

Big Ounce will forever live on in our hearts.

[@simonpitt4632]

someone needs to sponsor of a part two of this thank you lincoln

[@Stooltoad5017]

The appearance of the Lasuga makes me more curious about what other relics exist in that area of Arvel.

[@theabstractguy411]

Always great to see another video!

[@TalesofKaimere]

Thanks!

[@MrT_Rex]

18:25 WTF IS EVEN THAT ?! Multituberculates, niches stealers

[@oddjam]

Keenan with another banger. Lowkey one of my favorite episodes I think. I'm not even sure why tbh, but these critters have so much charisma in my eyes.

[@TalesofKaimere]

Thank you! Filling out the roster of small critters is always nice and I've become very fond of multituberculates

[@TedShatner10]

Marsupials are "placental" too (up to a point), but of course the gestation is far too brief, and their placental cord equivalent is convergent to that of "true" placentals' (and that's likely the case with the Kaimere multituberculates' version of live birth).

[@TalesofKaimere]

True. I should have been more clear: placentas are not unique to our clade, but the time frame, flexibility, and complexity is diagnostic.

[@TedShatner10]

@@TalesofKaimere Marsupials are even odder than first assumed and diverged from the last common ancestor to modern placentals roughly 160 million years ago in the Jurassic (with multituberculates perhaps diverging not much earlier, with the still extanct monotremes perhaps splitting off in the Triassic, so arguably never crown mammals!).

[@knightelkwarden]

Oh I am absolutely excited for next week's episode. I love marine animals, and its always a gift to see non cetacean or piniped marine mammals!

[@rileyernst9086]

Your bilaruk is evolving! You bilaruk has evolved into bilaruk the mighty sea serpent!

[@vasantmasurekar4826]

Absolutely stunning videos about the multis. Lasuga is amazing and wish it was abundant as a multi bear look alike it would be would be something to marvel at. Greater Sea beavers and Bilaruk are absolutely amazing. Can't wait for the Bilaruk episode next week

[@Mario-kl8yq]

To think about these animals once, and could have lived with us if given the chance that sorta makes me feel sad that we will never see multituberculates in the world, thanks kaimere,for the chance.

[@justinmerrill2093]

Awesome

[@Gelatinocyte2]

20,000 years from now: _"Multituberculates of the Known Universe"_

[@kearsargeyt8848]

Rabbit of Caerbannog :

[@rylanbrewer3320]

What happened to the paraankylosuars of southern arvel

[@TalesofKaimere]

Might still be there. Not yet sure

[@smashers6971]

Nice to see that the mammals of the Mesozoic are still clinging on to this day especially with their more advanced relatives. More of a general question how are Rhinos and Tapirs doing in Kaimere? We know Caliotheres and horses are doing fine but what are about their cousins?

[@dudotolivier6363]

Chalicotheres are Ok, in term of diversity, with the Glanos and some others species of its lineage present in Kairul and the Hugoldun in the Western Arvel making the Schizotherinae subfamily, and the Hugor in Lowland of Arvel making the Chalicotheriinae subfamily. But there already videos about these animals already made on the channel. Tapirs are in a unknow state, they are likely to be presents, but so far, there zero info about them that have been given to these days. Rhinos are good, with the Kaimeran Rhinoceros in Lowland of Arvel, the Houze Rhino in the Houze Prairie, at least one species in the Highland of Arvel, with on Kairul an hippo-like family (likely Amynodontidae) and a Horse family. But more are still possible. Aside, Horses, outside being just confirmed being here and well spread everywhere, are rather not very presented still today.

[@paleo-zoo-keeper-association]

So are any of the creatures we just saw descendants of Gondwanatheres?

[@TalesofKaimere]

Unfortunately not

[@loisonnut]

Nice to see the multis of the known world get chipped at. Hopefully this inspires someone to head to Kairul with this clade. 1. Which multis are kept as pets? Are they suitable for the task? 2. Contrarily, which multis are consumed by sophonts? 3. You say the Eutriconodont and Multi paradigm is the same on Kaishel. Does that mean stuff like the Atluratu and Nokutlok are Gobis again or are both clades successful? 4. Very excited for the Bilaruk episode. Since the actual animal has been drawn already, there's hopefully a lot of room for new scene art. 5. Heads up, youre using the Tlalassochoerus typo genus in the profiles in the vid.

[@TalesofKaimere]

1. Don't have a full list but some are plausible. Bright colors of the passertheres certainly present some neat options! 2. Don't have a full list. A lot of them. 3. Time will tell. 4. Heck yeah! 5. That's life sometimes

[@regularbricksstudios1109]

Lovely video dedicated to the multituberculates, very interesting clade of mammals overall, I am glad they are diverse and well settled in Kaimere! Keenan, will there be a remake on the basal megaraptorans? Throughout your videos I've seen some have been redesigned, so I just wanted to ask out of curiosity

[@thedarkmasterthedarkmaster]

Great video really neat to see this obscure group of extinct mammals get their time to shine. Though it also makes me curious of the status of Eutriconodonts, how are they doing. Do they have any giant forms in the world and how come they don't seem to be doing as well

[@lincolngravemann682]

Thanks Keenan for making this series and thanks Lincoln for spontaneous this video really grabbed my attention when he said Lincoln sponsored the video my name is Lincoln too just found it cool

[@Pufflizard]

I wonder if people keep Passertheres as pets. The venom might be a turn off but their coloration and small size might make them attractive.

[@dubuyajay9964]

Guard/Watch Pet? Like the Chinese "Sleeve Dog?"

[@TalesofKaimere]

It's something I'm definitely considering. I imagine some species might be able to be bred to minimize their venom glands, and having a lot more color options would certainly open doors for some interesting breeds!

[@luckyahmadtawakkal7130]

4:39 4:44 Actually, I think placental-like viviparity had convergently evolved in Placentals and Multituberculates.

[@TalesofKaimere]

That is certainly possible! From what I’m could find we’re still not sure

[@pranilpanda6789]

Okay but now I need know about the monotremes of Kaimere. WHERES THE GIANT PLATYPUS!

[@loisonnut]

Up in the jungles of Ni'Khar, according to the Sahul video

[@rylanbrewer3320]

Were Docodonta and other mamaliaforms harvested if so what happened to them

[@dudotolivier6363]

Nice video as always, and a very good intro about the Multituberculates of Kaimere as a whole too ! Hope others dedicated to them will follow overtime, in order that we can see the species present in the relms beyond the Known World, from close to it to more and more farer to Kairul where their oddest and weird nature reached it full peak !

[@RacoonMasterTM]

Multis :)

[@twomato8902]

BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ONE!!!!!!!!!!

[@TalesofKaimere]

Hell yeah!!

[@ryanchen1819]

Which island is the soktol present?

[@praise_kek340]

Marsupial have placentas but theirs is not as complex and does not stretch as much like placental mammals but i think one of them has evolved to have a similar placenta like ours and i think its the bandicoot(correct me if i am wrong)

[@TalesofKaimere]

Indeed I should have clarified.

[@Carlos-bz5oo]

Yes, bandicoots have relatively complex placentas, but their main gimmick is a stalk that deposits the joeys in the touch, thus allowing them to develop hooved forelimbs as they don't need the paws to crawl them up there at such a young age

[@ryanchen1819]

Do lasuga have predators?

[@TalesofKaimere]

Absolutely: cave lions, Homotherium, cave hyenas, black sloths, and the occasional zentaur will snack on them given the chance

[@maozilla9149]

nice video

[@TalesofKaimere]

Thanks!

[@maozilla9149]

@@TalesofKaimere your welcome

[@glarnboudin4462]

Huh. I have to say, I'm gonna miss the old bilaruk design, but I'm eager to see what it's been made into!

[@TalesofKaimere]

Oh best believe I'm using it for something else in Kairul. As I'll explain in next week's episode: just didn't make sense for something that made the journey it would need to. Not a great build for swimming lol

[@praetorianrex5571]

Do Multituberculates have trichromatic vision? Or able to see the color red?

[@TalesofKaimere]

The passertheres and a couple other clades do, yes. They also see into the UV spectrum, which is how the highly venomous passertheres often signal warnings to their predators

[@rylanbrewer3320]

Do any of the steppes predators hunter lasuga regular

[@TalesofKaimere]

Yes. Lions hyenas and Homotherium all hunt adults and leopards and wolves hunt their young

[@transnewt]

1:48 way to alienate skraa'aee and notzokideu viewers

[@Primordial_Soup]

Mesozoic Mammals are so fascinating to me. Its a real shame that most books and programs focused on the time period treat them as a footnote, end note, or merely "small and shrew-like". Nice to see dead uncle Allotheria doing well in Kaimere!

[@TalesofKaimere]

Absolutely! I appreciate why docs have to focus on the big names to get funding and public interest, but I would really enjoy a mammal documentary that didn't treat the mesozoic as a brief prologue. Mammals were doing a lot more than cowering in the shadows back then

[@aidengabriel3508]

Can you do synapsids of kaimere please.

[@liambrandley2716]

Aside from dinosaurs, pterosaurs, marine reptiles, and the multituberculates, what other Mesozoic lineages are still dominant in kaimere?

[@rohacha9iin40]

What happened to the Kaishel ones?

[@TalesofKaimere]

Nothing. They just haven’t had many official designs yet

[@transnewt]

bilaruk! bilaruk! bilaruk! wonder why we didnt get any of them in the north sea giants video. are they exclusive to kairuls inland sea? cant wait for next week.

[@TalesofKaimere]

They are indeed exclusive to Kairul and to the south, as the outlet is to the southern hemisphere, and any that can endure the cold outlet would get roasted alive trying to swim north. Bilaruk can handle a lot more heat than a whale their size, but they still can't handle the equatorial waters

[@transnewt]

@@TalesofKaimere when i first read about them i thought they came from north kairul. glad my critical thinking skills came in clutch tho. id love to see their cousins.

[@birdguy1581]

would love to see a surviving true tyrannosaurus

[@UTKC_RadiusCelestialGeneralius]

The nehamu is an tyrannosaur, but they are robust alioramines

[@wildtoonproductions4427]

there technically there a tyrannosaur dinosaur called the nehamu

[@bmw895]

This wascneat to see. I know Megafauna get all the spotlight but most animals are generally small and getting to see more Multis was neat. My question for the Kaimeran Leviathan is what happened to the older design, has that been moved to a relative or has it been scrapped. Will the episode focus only on it or will it cover it's clade

[@TalesofKaimere]

Just the single species will get coverage. Old design will be repurposed but didn't make sense for the history I'd laid out, which will be a segment in next week's episode!

[@Colton-fc7sh]

I'm just wondering but what do you use for your colored illustrations of animals.

[@TalesofKaimere]

I use Prismacolor colored pencils.

[@Colton-fc7sh]

@@TalesofKaimere ok thankyou. I tried using other colored pencils but they did 5 show up that well on my scanner

[@shingtiong9425]

Aah multiterbuculate, I also have a succesful diversity of them in my project. With the aquatic species basically being a mermaid. Too bad I won't illustrating them for a few months as the project's on hiatus because of some mistakes surrpunding the climate stuff.

[@Carlos-bz5oo]

Can't wait!

[@notthebest2968]

Wow the biluruk changed a lot

[@TalesofKaimere]

Indeed. As I'll get into next week: old design wouldn't make sense for an animal that had to cross an ocean.

[@Fragboi-f3o]

He should make a penguins of kaimere video

[@wildtoonproductions4427]

great episode Keenan, it is perfect to see multituberculates to get expanded on this also can't wait bilaruk episode coming soon, one last question how many animals in kaimere are there?

[@TalesofKaimere]

Thanks! I have no idea how many animals exist on Kaimere. Planetwide? Probably around 20 billion species

[@rylanbrewer3320]

I imagine flight helps give songbirds an edge but I’m curious how passertheres do DIRECTLY compete with songbirds other than diet (since squirrels and bluejays do as well to a lesser degree

[@TalesofKaimere]

They eat the same food and like similar nest sites

[@rylanbrewer3320]

We’re there any non therians on the pre houze ni khar prairie

[@TalesofKaimere]

Yes there are multituberculates all over Kaimere

[@zacharystoddard6826]

One has to wonder how modern-day animals would have evolved without Magic taking certain populations

[@rylanbrewer3320]

How do the relatives of the Moa'Ashe survive in Kaishel if tapping would mean death by silent ones?

[@TalesofKaimere]

The silent ones aren’t so proficient of climbers that they automatically are a threat. A lot of animals up high can get away with some tapping, and the same extreme hearing they have to find insects also warns them of incoming silent ones clicks

[@ianswinford5570]

Random thought, but what would deep sea fish on Kaimere be like? What nightmarish creatures lurk in the lightless depths of Kaimere’s seas?

[@TalesofKaimere]

I've got a lot of ideas cooking but none fully baked lol. As I hinted at in the harpid trilobite episode: the portal doesn't harvest from the abyss, so Kaimere's abyss is descended mostly from coastal animals that went deep, not deep sea animals taken from Earth

[@ianswinford5570]

@@TalesofKaimere OK. Still, though, the idea of what terrifying bioluminescent beasts may lurk in the depths of a planet like Kaimere is fascinating and terrifying!

[@tysonwastaken]

​@@TalesofKaimereI would make them decide to in the future and if you don't, its what deep sea animals are anyways

[@rylanbrewer3320]

Did the thylacosciuria evolve during the third Mesozoic dynasty

[@1998topornik]

So Bilaruk gets completely new design, will older design will get reuse for other creature or will be scrapped completely?

[@dudotolivier6363]

I think its still up in the air and restrcited to Kairul's Inland Sea.

[@TalesofKaimere]

Old design will be repurposed. The name needed to remain in the known world as it wouldn't make sense for a Kentarim word to be applied to something in Kairul, but the design will remain for a new multi

[@WILDMUTTDude]

11:38 IT'S A KAIMERAN SHAGRAT

[@Lurtz848]

when the lasuga was discovered, was it initially thought that it could be a diprotodont?

[@TalesofKaimere]

It sure was!

[@samanthagibson5791]

I dont think you can have a pouched animal which spends any significant amount of time in the water. Short amounts of time would work, but longer times would suffocate the joeys. Placental babies get oxygen from the mother, but marsupial babies breathe themselves

[@TalesofKaimere]

Indeed! Which is why the Sea Beavers need to air out the pouch every 10 minutes or so, and the bilaruk clade lost the use of their pouches

[@TedShatner10]

What about those strange badger like creatures on the Jurassic Islands? They definitely don't seem to be crown mammals that the Kaimere multis and Earth marsupials are, most likely a remnant of gobicon (or some other kind of mammaliaforme).

[@TalesofKaimere]

Iirc I didn't specify what clade they belong to because the Assembly doesn't yet know

[@TedShatner10]

@@TalesofKaimere They had a theory it was possibly the remnant of a very basal multituberculate or metatherian clade....

[@NP3GA]

18:20 😮

[@IsaacJuett]

Oh my god! Dudotolivier was right all along! So is the old bilaruk still canon and in kairul's inland sea cause that's what he said.

[@rylanbrewer3320]

In southern arvel what kind of dinosaurs lived there

[@TalesofKaimere]

Mostly just elasmarians

[@rylanbrewer3320]

@ sauropods and a species of megraptoran once lived there

[@RobertusHartomo]

Ok but how many spesies of multituberculate in kaimere?

[@TalesofKaimere]

Thousands. Don’t have an official number

[@samuelscott-schroeder8597]

What would you say is the personality of Flying Cats?

[@TalesofKaimere]

Honestly not far off from house cats

[@rylanbrewer3320]

How and why could multis the size of lasuga develop in arvel

[@TalesofKaimere]

Because the Dynastic Extinction opened up niches

[@rylanbrewer3320]

@@TalesofKaimere so the evolved shortly after the dynastic extinction

[@swiftlet5346]

Is all this info inn the books? As much as I like these videos, I honestly think I would digest the info better in text form.

[@ParkerOrosz]

Go to his deviant art page

[@TalesofKaimere]

Not yet, but I do plan on making a bestiary or field guide once the known world is done with development

[@SanderVF]

Guys, how do I get a Pouch Rat out of my house?

[@UTKC_RadiusCelestialGeneralius]

What the next sponsored video you will do?

[@TalesofKaimere]

Leviathan

[@UTKC_RadiusCelestialGeneralius]

WH- *an episode about the new Bilaruk would be good

[@andrearossi6953]

Wake up Mommy, the pouch rodents are coming today🐁🐀🐿️

[@deddasna]

big if true

[@TalesofKaimere]

Big If True

[@tysonwastaken]

small if false

[@elshebactm6769]

🗿👍

[@noahcreutziger7690]

I normally don't comment this but... "first"

[@kearsargeyt8848]

Sorry but you are not the first :P

[@noahcreutziger7690]

@@kearsargeyt8848 rip. well at least i'm *one of* the first :P

[@NP3GA]

More furry friends

[@Samy-jk2ru]

First

[@amm019]

Do they really have venomous spurs like the platypus, or is it creative licensing?

[@TalesofKaimere]

To my knowledge it wasn't known for certain in every clade, but there were multis with venomous spurs and appear to be an ancestral condition of mammals. Probably was lost by the ancestors of marsupials and placentals as it's an expensive trait.

[@seanessdracosaurus2793]

Awesome