Mum Tries to Download and Install a Linux Distro (2016) - OSFirstTimer Advanced #8

[@OsFirstTimer]

It looks like some people really do read the description. The other channel mentioned in the description (Let's Explore) is getting subs (even though it doesn't have any videos yet). Videos for "Let's Explore" will be coming in the next few days, be sure to watch each episode and vote at the end on what to do next in the adventure. I'm not telling you guys what that particular channel is about yet but... I will say it's going to be very interactive. For those wondering though... "Let's Explore" (kzbin.info/door/R7i2K59kFOjYZ0tGgS7AOg) is not my secret channel, It's my 11th channel. The secret channel is my 8th channel. My 9th channel is "What The Heck Just Happened" (kzbin.info/door/XWdCNzSx5gYOm9XWDaACTQ) and my 10th channel is "How To Quickly" (kzbin.info/door/Z1GQeIhG-CSvwLHEkc9Mow). Viewers of the secret channel are allowed to leave comments telling other people about it but for now, I'm not mentioning it. These other channels DO NOT INTERFERE with the creation of OSFirstTimer videos (so don't worry about that), OSFirstTimer videos can only be made when Diana is available. Simply enjoy my other channels while you wait for more OSFirstTimer videos :)

[@quangmng]

OSFirstTimer After a bursting time...

[@lemons99lemons63]

OSFirstTimer I wish that happened to me! LOL xD

[@kbhasi]

Hopefully this new 11th channel of yours is going to be great because it has a photo of the area outside your house as the channel banner...

[@OsFirstTimer]

Haha, bit hint to the content, and it's interactive... (Similar to how you guys used to vote at the end of Gaming Through The Ages videos on AstralPhaser). This will have a multiple choice system too, yet the pace of the videos will be relaxing with a focus on exploration.

[@EgoShredder]

Well proper tech guys always demand the full specifications and information on things, so naturally we click on anything that will provide this! Yes we do go the extra mile, even when reading KZbin video description boxes!

[@vicr123]

Been looking forward to this episode. Thanks for putting this up! :D

[@OsFirstTimer]

Enjoy :) I feel this is one of those OSFirstTimer Advanced episodes that can be appreciated by both Advanced Fans and those who prefer the normal tries out series.

[@realvivifromloona]

hey :D

[@vicr123]

OSFirstTimer Definitely. This is one of the good ones. :) ...not that any of your other ones are bad :)

[@realvivifromloona]

OSFirstTimer I agree :D love your videos! Watching the video while typing this!

[@hawtboi4724]

Victor Tran can you make a tutorial of how to make operating systems

[@jezbon]

The problem with the installations (whenever I've run into them) is that you're likely using an unsupported hard drive bus. For example is it SATA or IDE or (the others) that is required. When the VM was being made (or afterwards in the settings) you'll find a way to change the type of hard disk it presents itself as. Normally most custom (non-mainstream) distros will work with IDE (old school tech) because that's the default support compiled into the kernels. The only other thing would be to check that the virtual hard disk is even attached. Random: been watching for years (Windows 8 review put me in hysterics and since then have been addicted to the channel). There's something quite humbling watching a non-tech using what we take for granted that really helps us realign how we view IA, UI and UX across all of tech. It's been entertaining and informative to watch. Has Diana ever tried to get herself involved in user testing for council or government websites where users are assigned tasks to complete and give their feedback. Her insight might make quite a difference to many broken/horrid experiences the public have to deal with. Keep up the vids. Love them. 👍😊

[@jezbon]

Yep. At end of video I noticed you're using SCSI for hard disk attachment. See if you can switch it to SATA and give Dragon-whatever or 4M another go at installing. 🙂 If you can't change from SCSI try out Oracle VirtualBox ('tis free), that'll work.

[@OsFirstTimer]

Thanks :) we will try that after ben tries 4MLinux

[@makmm8119]

i think the problem was that it didnt have a partition table... but i dont know

[@InsideOfMyOwnMind]

We have a paradox here. Your Mum is a saint for putting up with your passion for video and OS's and you are a saint for spending the time with her. Here in the US it seems to be the exception rather then the rule. As some have been known to say down there. good on the both of ya.

[@vicr123]

I think what happened with your distributions is that it had issues with finding the virtual hard disk. :) /dev/sda is _usually_ the first hard disk on your PC, and /dev/sdb is _usually_ the second. If /dev/sda can't be found, then that means that Linux can't find the first drive. :) EDIT: Jerome Bonnet noted that you're using SCSI as the hard drive bus. Try changing that to SATA or IDE and things should work. :)

[@Goolpy]

llooooll

[@ThailandLover8]

Hi victor tran

[@vicr123]

Hi :)

[@ozek5121]

One of the bests. In my opinion this is nearly as good as Diana setting up Arch Linux video.

[@feelsaxelman]

2 videos from you within a total of 2 weeks? YAY :D

[@conndexysdad]

An ISO image is a disk image of an optical disc. In other words, it is an archive file that contains everything that would be written to an optical disc, sector by sector, including the optical disc file system. ISO image files bear the .iso filename extension.

[@SuperTechWizKid]

Nice to see you uploading again! I missed your hysterical and funny videos.

[@amm0nix481]

We use the letter 'V' very rarely in Polish. Besides "Volkerding" sounds more German tbh. PS I am a big fan! :)

[@zak1234motivation]

I've just realised I've been watching for over a year yet these are usually the most boring yet interesting videos ever

[@OsFirstTimer]

Boring and interesting aren't exactly two words that make sense when put together as they mean quite opposite things but I get what you mean... sorta.

[@TheRunefox]

Sounds like VMWare's virtual disk is on an unsupported controller for these distros. You might want to go into the Virtual Machine Settings window and check what attachment method is being used; SCSI might be the default, but there's also SATA and IDE. Try adding a new virtual disk and choose a different virtual disk type (it'll be the first screen after choosing to add a new hard disk). One of the three should work.

[@fabian6514.cr3]

I love those longer videos! I hope your channel grows to 100k soon!

[@fabian6514.cr3]

And it did!

[@samueldavison-henry2347]

I love the more often uploads :) Great work

[@CobsTech]

I think the reason with all the disk errors was with the type you used, e.g SCSI controller, I'd reccommend SATA or IDE, not SCSI or SAS. I cannot get draganora to work with my PowerEdge server which uses scsi.

[@Drago1995]

this episode was fun

[@KeinNiemand]

Make her program next time!

[@sa5urn500]

I glad to see him back

[@smoothiethepotato]

When diana said to install dra... (I don't know how to spell the name of the OS so i used three dots) then she laughed her laughing actually sounded like evil laugh

[@PatxiVergara]

Your mother has tried a lot of Linux distributions, I think a video of her recommending a good distro for those that are not that 'tech savvy' would be most appreciated, specially with the raise of the Linux market in a lot of companies and in schools. Normally when you search for newby-friendly distros most of the recommendations are done by tech experts and not by novice users themselves which I think their opinion is more valuable. Good channel keep it going!

[@Luka7011]

"Keep it simple, stupid" Diana: Perfect for you father ROASTED

[@TJWolf]

That was good nice mum. Sometimes you pick one that doesn't work but that 4MLinux one looks awesome i'll have to give it a go Thanks for the video

[@googolplexgoogol518]

Thank you very much for let me discover argentine's Dragora distribution!!!

[@hunterklowss]

8:40 Turns out the alpha version was released on December 31st, 2017, not 2016. There isn't a stable version yet but the beta was released October 16th, 2019.

[@chiyun2b2b2t9]

Yessss, OSFirstTimer is back!

[@Galactipod]

How to Kill Penguins: In the xtoys menu, at the bottom, there's an option called "StopAll".

[@harris7915]

This guy is the reason I made youtube account in the first place. So, I could subscribe to this channel. :)

[@OldieBugger]

My mom steadfastly refuses to do anything like maintaining her computer herself. When I tried to tell her it's not that difficult, she just asked me: "Why should I do those things myself? I have you!". Not much to say to that?

[@garrettplayz664]

you need to do cfdisk /dev/sda

[@david_in_perth]

Great video. I have to disagree about HTTPS though. It's not just for banking sites. Everything should use HTTPS, if only to verify that the site is who it says it is. Diana was on the right track!

[@zoyabl5444]

this is amazing you've got 10 channels. I can't believe it.

[@cstro216]

zoya Nanny 11*

[@v1ncxnt943]

intro: mum tries to make a linux distro for ben. real:Mum tries it

[@snaveow8785]

Wow, I love your channel I can't beleive you do all this crazy stuff just for KZbin

[@plant4143]

meh, he's been doing it for 4 years now. lost all it's luster after 2k14. still remember the malwareup-osfirsttimer internet war.

[@Inaflap]

@20:47 When you entered 'n', you did so at the # prompt. That's the root login for a shell (Bash in this case). The Bash shell interpreter then looked for a command named 'n'. Specify a disk (using the logical name assigned to it)... probably /dev/sda or /dev/hda. As root try " lshw -class disk ". You should see a list of the disks (one you allocated in that virtual system gubbins). Then given the disk name you can start fdisk or cfdisk. e.g. # fdisk /dev/sda then you will be able to enter your 'n' command to create a new partition. Given a disk name /dev/sda you will divide it up... partition it... with say /dev/sda1, /dev/sda2 etc. Each partition has its own filesystem, and the filesystem type is something you will also need to consider when partitioning a disk. Say you created a new empty partition and it's name /dev/sda1 (on the sda disk), then you use mkfs.ext4 to create an ext4 type filesystem. mkfs.ext4 /dev/sda1 I prefer 'parted' or better still 'gparted' for doing this stuff.

[@frankiii9165]

15:18 Dragon is a computer! (Dragon 32 and Dragon 64)

[@aqua0957]

Computer: bash: n: command not found Diana: Well, I will bash it in a minute.

[@michal98ify]

Great video like always ;) looking forward to the next one :)

[@deltatwoforce]

really hard suggestion: MAKE HER CREATE HER OWN LINUX DISTRO *or* MAKE HER CREATE HER OWN KERNEL

[@deltatwoforce]

Suse studio is too fucking easy

[@Jake1702]

We don't want to be watching an 80-year long video.

[@gbdroid8638]

Distro: -Install Arch Anywhere -Change settings/themes -Download apps Done.

[@shaunclarke04]

Delta2Force she has made a distro and i bet you cant even make a kernal!

[@sylveon64yt33]

Poppciccle he made his own OS shut up Poppciccle

[@VVdragon]

Some suggestions: * Let Diana try installing Ubuntu by herself instead of any random distros first as the complexity of installing them variates greatly(The intuitiveness of the installation is also a good aspect to explore on, maybe ArchLinux and even Linux from Scratch one day) * Also I'd like to suggest playing the famous Undertale in the TerrifiedMum channel

[@Mrmarcie]

Love this one. Very entertaining ;). And your mom is great.

[@bobsobol]

I presume the reason neither of these OS could find /dev/sda is because you haven't initialised the drive by adding an MBR, or GPT to edit partition tables on. VMware has given you a shiny, brand new, unformatted, hard disk, and they are *both* expecting that you already have the MBR from the OS that came with your PC. I suspect they wouldn't cope well with a PC that came with Windows 8, or 10 either, since the fdisk tool is really best on MBR disks, and 8 & 10 default to installing on GPT. The way I usually _think_ of partitions isn't about dual-, or multi-boot, but in terms of the boot partition, system partition, work partition, scratch disk and / or recovery partition. Windows 10 defaults to a boot partition, a recovery partition, a backup partition and the system partition, but only the system partition is mounted with a DOS drive letter once you've got to the desktop. Because VMware uses sparse images (by default) for VMs hard drives, you could easily assign 5Tb to your test OS, even if your physical drive is only 1Tb and already has Windows and a bunch of VMs already installed on it... The host would run out of disk space before the VM, and VMware would suspend the guest OS with an error long before you filled the 5Tb, but until the host runs out of space, "everythings' gravy".

[@IDKMANTECH]

[Verse] Oh, I was just sitting down at my PC Reading all the comments on my vid-videos Then I saw Victor Tran, Victor Tran And I thought, "OMG!" He's got two wide eyes And a smiley mouth Oh, what will I do? I think I'd better run away before He kills me [Part 2] [Verse] Hey, why did I just freak out? Why did I freak out? I'm sure there was nothing to fear I just over-reacted I don't need this knife I can go and put it away Yeah, I don't know why I was scared of a smiley blue face, that is so insane Yeah, I can forget this whole thing and return to my bedroom, what the heck! [Chorus] This is crazy, crazy, crazy he's hacked my PC I think I better go and dial triple 0 But wait a second, I think he just hacked my phone I've got to escape, and get out of here [Verse] I am at the door but it won't seem to budge I can't be stuck in here with Victor alone Please help me, please help me, please help me-e-e Wait, who opened the door, there's nobody here I guess I will just go into the lift now And be free, and be free, and be free-e-e-e And he's long gone, he's not next to me But then I realized that he tricked me [Chorus] I knew this was trouble when I saw him so please don't hurt me Then he took me to places I've never been Now I'm lying on the cold hard ground [Part 4] [Verse] I'm starting to wonder if This is a nightmare And maybe it's my real test To wake up from this dream I will travel across the land Searching far and wide For a place where I can hide From evil Victor Tran He won't find me It can't be my destiny No, it's a dead end And theres no way to defend Wait is this true My courage just pushed me through I beat him and succeeded until I sleep again

[@windowselectronic1016]

What version of W10 was that running? W10 original, 1511, or Anniversary update? (For all you people who say i'm missing the creators update, this video was uploaded before April 11, 2017, which is when the CU was released of W10).

[@BrennanWest85]

I love the tech videos! Keep up the cool & good work! :)

[@SepiaMN]

22:32 There’s ‘openindiana’ distro! 😊

[@magmakun9277]

My pc at school is multisystem. It comes with Arch Linux (for teachers), Fedora (for students) and Windows 7 (for those who dont know how to use linux)

[@Galactipod]

2 videos this month! Yes!

[@Galactipod]

Oh boy, this is gonna be a long one.

[@ControlAltDEFEAT]

last time I was this early, the PowerMac 7500 was released.

[@BonensProject]

I never knew that Dragora was an argentine distro. That's cool.

[@Inkydink]

Thanks! I was waiting for this!

[@swordkorn]

Both fdisk and cfdisk require drive specification when a PC has more than one drive otherwise it will fail as it’ll just try to open it on your live USB

[@deltatwoforce]

suggestions 1) make her create a basic website 2) make her create a website with a simple register/login option 3) make her create a professional website with a complex, hashed register/login option that saves to an mysql database. 4) make her create a really professional amazon clone (but with downloads) with a hashed register/login option that saves to an mysql database. 5) make her create a really professional twitter clone with a hashed register/login option, picture uploading, video uploading, avatars and privacy that saves to an mysql database (Extra: *using arch linux, apache and nano*)

[@BlackPixelLP]

I'm not sure, but that's probably TOO advances. Maybe if she has some sort of tool for creating websites, but just like that from scratch? No, she'd have to learn quite a bunch about HTML and different programming and scripting languages first.

[@deltatwoforce]

she could try it Xd

[@Ograws]

That's far too advanced lol

[@deltatwoforce]

no

[@maxkilroy3014]

LOL! (Dating myself?)

[@Infernooo]

Make her program in javascript, html, css or visual basic or at least batch

[@deltatwoforce]

no html is no programming language

[@Infernooo]

Delta2Force It's web developing programming

[@deltatwoforce]

.......... html is a markdown language

[@Frankfurtdabezzzt]

Delta2Force Markup

[@deltatwoforce]

up down up down... fuck it Ah, ich glaube das du Deutscher bist. Kann auch Deutsch. Ich finde es cool das viele Deutsche OSFirstTimer gucken.

[@thedjgamer-productions]

Looks at clock 8:58m PM in Australia, Canberra!

[@butanikuman]

TheDjGamer and Sydney .-.

[@quangmng]

TheDjGamer my next target

[@attomicchicken]

TheDjGamer I'll do you one better manly beach

[@AviatorSammy]

OSFIrstTimer, AYYYYYYY that intro is from fiverr, i got it too! xD

[@MarkAJAgi]

To install 4MLinux run GParted Click select on Desktop and click on Maintenance - Partitions - GParted Then in GParted, click on Device - Create Partition Table... Click on Apply and close GParted You can now click select on Desktop and click on 4MLinus - Installer

[@InflamedMean556]

October 16th, 2019 Dragora linux went into Beta 1 and here in July 2020, It hasn't passed that.

[@garbageday587]

The only version of Linux that worked for me was Peppermint . With all other versions I tried I had problems with audio and (or) video drivers.

[@loudestproductions]

You are My favourite KZbin ever!!!!!! I laugh to much at your content!

[@Nonje4560]

KISS should stand for Keep It Stupidly Simple

[@krono9451]

I suppose the virtual disk was not actually mounted, thus why you couldn't execute cfdisk along with the installer.

[@LuanCristianThums]

Quite the contrary, you have to unmount disks before partitioning them. If I am not mistaken, when you open cfdisk without any argument (like they did) it defaults to /dev/sda (the first disk in a Linux system). So either the 30GB disk Diana set is not /dev/sda or it was somehow not actually added to the machine. Checking the available disks with "lsblk" and then running "cfdisk /dev/sdX" (where /dev/sdX is the appropriate disk) would have done it.

[@spulmusic]

This has been recorded on 9/11.... Check the date below.... (Maybe it's like a different date system where you put day before month like we use in The Netherlands...)

[@HarleyMayes]

you need to do lsblk, find out what device the vdisk is, eg /dev/sdx the do cfdisk with the device specified. for example, my VPS there is a virtual disk and I used fdisk the command was 'fdisk /dev/vda'

[@bloodrace]

Im early... Really waiting for a new vid... Ty OSFT!

[@EdiSantosoIdeas]

You guys just fabulous ... love it

[@meesternadim]

I think native language refers to programming languages that run natively on the machine, like C.

[@GoldDominik893]

I love the inro btw

[@Sabyoficial]

LOL when you said about the dualboot with win7 and ubuntu when she tried to boot it, i thinked: wow my laptop is dualbooting on win 7 and ubuntu

[@MarkAJAgi]

In VM VirtualBox I get the following error with 4MLinux when installing: 'This kernal requires the following features not present on the CPU: pae' I had VirtualBox setup as a 32-bit and not 64-bit machine.Changed to 64-bit and now working.

[@DAVIDGREGORYKERR]

If you get the LINUX FORMAT Magazine you will get a front cover disc, Linux Mint 18 (Sarah) MATE 64bit is the way to go.

[@alexkorshunov4876]

Diana have a good english speech, nice to hear

[@jeroenfigee]

fantastic channel. loooove this video and mum really hang in there... the pinguins were cool too. in the xp time i had one that was little sheep that walked the screen and made funny sheepnoises.

[@masonplayz5492]

Did anyone notice that the penguin near the home folder flipped and exploded into to blood at 30:43?

[@alessandrotrezza37]

I think that you didn't cofigured correctly the virtual disk....

[@ithinkitspickingupalittleb8011]

8:48 Diana was right! It’s 2018 already and it has not yet been released. Huh.

[@BetaMaster2]

Wow, she's changed!

[@dawidwsmole]

Diana we don't use v in Poland so this name on 9 minutes weren't polish, it was more of a German name

[@baconmunchh]

Mum is personal assistant Much originality

[@RealGengarTV]

wow 4m Linux looks pretty fresh :)

[@OsFirstTimer]

It's ok, I haven't really looked into it much personally but the interface feels dated to me, as if it's come from 2003-2005. Still, can't judge it on that. It's just my first impressions.

[@SunburntRock89]

You'll have to use fdisk, I think it's fdisk dev/sda, I can't see right now, I'll tell you how to do later

[@BlueWorldPL]

9:37 In Polish we don't use "V" ;)

[@Janek01]

O witam witam, jeszcze innego polaka tu nie widziałem :D

[@BlueWorldPL]

a ja juz od paru miesiecy ogladam

[@fabian6514.cr3]

Wojtek Konowrocki A ja od roku :P

[@BlueWorldPL]

ja moze nawet wiecej pierwszy odcinek to byl win 8 na surface

[@Dawid8]

Ja od kilka lat :P

[@Souls4Roca]

get her to install fedora next, took me ages to figure out that the usb was not starting because i had to press ESC to cancel the check and load the live media XD, btw how the heck you missed the stop all?

[@scopestacker9787]

Richard Stallman will love you.

[@blackrose7763]

I tried Dragora with Oracle Virualbox in 32 Bit, this means i486, and had no problem. Maybe your image was corruptet or the x86_64 image has a bug. Do you checked the checksum?

[@QuantenMagier]

Lol how she says the Mandragora Root looks like a Chicken.. xD

[@Christiaan-]

Have you set up the partition table on your virtual drive?

[@DouglasWalrath]

i would love to see her install ubuntu

[@OsFirstTimer]

Ubuntu from memory has a nice installer, it's very easy to install. Arch Linux on the other hand... She would just BASH THE FDISK, even with support from the wiki. I don't know if she will do another installation so soon though, gotta space these out a little.

[@DouglasWalrath]

OSFirstTimer i know how easy ubuntu is too install firsthand, i've done it like 20 times now, all of my computers run ubuntu

[@12pearcj]

Use the Evolution installer for Arch, or, Arch Anywhere for something that is up to date.

[@rileystanley2174]

wait I have not watched it all but she downloaded it on your real computer?

[@nizzystorm7067]

get diana to install XP as a virtual OS next time please i think it would be cool to see how she handle's XP now that she uses 8. BTW i would recommend getting 8.1 for diana though. Like rthis comment of you aggree

[@TheWeirdGaming]

She is on windows 10 now :)

[@Thomasynthesis]

She obviously has Windows 10 now. There was a free update. Unless you pirated windows.

[@nizzystorm7067]

I have 8.1 and i naver upgraded because i prefare windows 8.1 in fact 81 is my second favourite OS

[@csaREEM]

Can she root and install a custom rom on a android phone?

[@bpfuels]

Stewart Craig I don't think any of them own an android phone

[@bpfuels]

They all have iPhones

[@csaREEM]

Ben Paulsen iPhone, lolz

[@HeelerHouse]

Ben Paulsen Philips dad has a Galaxy S5

[@bpfuels]

Andrewleeplays Last time I checked he had an iPhone 6 plus

[@ItsMzz]

are we getting a dragora video anytime soon👀

[@ThePixelPolygon]

Why didn't you just get the bootable version of gparted?

[@markusTegelane]

You could have used gparted or any other partitioning live cd and made ext4 partition

[@RKBibleStudy]

What a great bideo! It made me smile big. :-D

[@Nobody59300]

You should make a video where you get her to install an SSD or other type of hard drive into a PC then install an operating system onto it. You could even ask youtuber Duraga1 to do a collab

[@WhiteDemonata]

This hardly seems like a "KISS" install process. You are right, Ubuntu and most Linux systems I've seen are GUI driven installs. What a mess. I use Ubuntu or its "other" versions, personally.

[@Tech-Multiverse72]

Noooooo Victor Tran catched up!

[@stutavagrippa8690]

Dragora is supposed to be a make it yourself I think

[@Jos3phJust]

That's a really pretty disro