YouTube's copyright system is broken

[@ThatMumboJumbo]

UPDATE (as taken from my twitter) Things are a bit muddy. - I do have written permission from the artist to use the claimed song. - However; the song uses a sample that has been picked up by Warners content ID bot. So I am being claimed for a sample, not the song. I'm still hoping we can resolve this. And take this as a lesson from me: Not only should you ensure you have complete rights to the music you are using for your videos, but also ensure that you ask about any samples that have been used. Otherwise you could end up in this situation (And you wouldn't want that). Will do a video on Tuesday explaining. I am taking a day off tomorrow!

[@AtharvaS]

I hope the situation gets better

[@Nathan-p1j]

Sounds rough, good luck pal.

[@Laxinator3000]

Thank goodness for that!

[@iceygamingrulez]

Mumbo Jumbo maybe you should try and reach out to other minecraft youtubers to get help

[@jamesfilyawDigginGabe]

This is blatant abuse of the copyright claim system. There should absolutely be punishment for doing this, or a limit to claims a person can make. This system is absolutely broken, and has to be fixed.

[@biblereadingmum1239]

I bet warner chappell cant even make a 2x2 redstone door.

[@qman5321]

lewisb_124 he cant even use a piston

[@keddethan]

Can’t even activate redstone

[@qman5321]

Ethan Keddy can’t even place redstone

[@AboutTheBuild]

Cant even load up minecraft

[@hiddevanrenssen5129]

Can't even find 1 redstone dust

[@joedpl]

Next video: “I built a redstone machine that issues frivolous copyright claims”

[@yourboi1119]

I beg you mumbo

[@RecompiledBirds]

Specifically issues them at Warner Chappel.

[@lucarr1041]

I'm guessing it'll be something like the live subscriber count

[@matthewm3]

That’s more of a Sethbling creation. A Minecraft invention that works outside of MC.

[@Crystal-nw3hz]

I'm already so mad and this comment made me even more so

[@Teufelsnachbar667]

The Solution would be so simple. A strike system for wrong/frivolous copyright claims 3 Strikes and you loose your ability to claim copyright and all claims that are currently in progress will be dropped as asecurity measure.

[@redroachdk8378]

Or at least when a claimant get 3 stikes, all future claims must be manually viewed/approved by KZbin.

[@chickenjimmy6552]

That'd be sick, but the company who made the wrong claims are the ones who determine whether the claim is legitimate or not. KZbin needs to fix that function before the system can heal

[@ietsanders8793]

So what they could just make a new channel

[@glitchered]

the solution is to remove this system. the machines are to dumb to process it. a lawful claim should always be done by a human. period

[@Flying_Spaghetti_Monster]

But the system claims stuff automatically and the copyright owners just give the algorithm the samples to claim stuff. This would only make sense for manual claims.

[@NotJustBikes]

This whole thing happened *just* when I was lauching my new KZbin channel in 2019. When I saw this happen to Mumbo Jumbo, I immediately scrapped my musical intro and went with an intro made up of only street sounds that I recorded myself, and I never use any. music in my videos. I'm really happy that Mumbo Jumbo went public with this so that others could learn from his mistakes. And now "street sounds in place of music" is basically part of my brand. So, thanks!

[@helloeverything496]

wow, really didnt expect to see you here

[@Noel_Jaco8]

😢

[@SKO_PL]

Wow, I had no idea that was the reason behind your unique style of videos. That's crazy

[@Moon_Jam08]

KZbin: you want to flag this because of copyright? Why? Company: I just feel like ruining someone else's career KZbin: okay

[@evinroen6401]

Mumbo: *Uses 5 seconds of music he had an agreement to use* Warner Chapel: I’m about to end this man’s whole career

[@hatim9687]

@@evinroen6401 literally

[@basiclockpick2182]

I was about to drop imma end this man's whole career but these comments made it before me

[@theklefkiauthority6504]

The reason why I don't make videos

[@thesummitingfalcon]

Yeah,exactly.

[@zhengyang9293]

KZbin: Hey this is your video right? Mumbo: Yes its mine. Some guy: No its mine. KZbin: ok its yours now.

[@ravinduwijayarathna6238]

@Toyota Supra 2JZ-GTE Boob

[@gaylewells6692]

this is unfair I have been watching mumbo jumbo over a year it can't stop no youtube!

[@QuackerHead-j]

Pay attention

[@ravinduwijayarathna6238]

@@QuackerHead-j Boop

[@QuackerHead-j]

Poop….. Hehehehhahahihihihi

[@iseeghost]

So proud of a Minecraft KZbinr speaking up about this sort of thing. This is a very important thing to talk about so I appreciate you talking about this.

[@TheSoloPotato]

Maybe youtubers should put "Music usage with permission from ..."

[@iseeghost]

Ape I said it was important for Minecraft YTrs to make videos about this because they usually have younger audiences. And most of the young audience barely knows about this issue. No reason to be rude..

[@godwillboro1424]

You know the system sucks when even a person like mumbo gets claimed

[@Funesaurus]

fax

[@creynolds4802]

Yes

[@benjie5789]

true

[@K2KOfcoursegg]

Imagine mumbo make a 9x9 with no Slime and then someone copyright it. R.I.P. ads

[@gaudyfurball5811]

the fat rat was put in a similar situation last december but istead, it was with 1 video... that makes ~100-500 usd per day... PRETTY BIG DEAL

[@christopherkerr54]

Mumbo: uses 15 seconds of music that he has permission to use Warner chapel: We own all 10-20 minute videos now

[@MiniMan5450]

Correction: We own your entire god damned channel now

[@spaderkungskuk]

No, that’s KZbin making that decision. The troll maybe just wanted to steal the music part.

[@iniesta8856]

Warner Chappel didn’t want his content, they wanted his money

[@superriley1093]

KZbin stop being a prick, for the love of mumbo, toyota supras and everything british MUMBO SHALL PREVAIL!

[@christopherkerr54]

Miniman5450 facts though

[@warren286]

Thus is the insanity of KZbin law. You're better off hiring a lawyer and suing for loss of income. They're hoping you won't lawyer up and take legal action.

[@kaelin8775]

I think the youtube is drunk again!

[@gmsp123]

@@kaelin8775 Tell me when KZbin was sober.

[@kaelin8775]

@@gmsp123 to be honest i dont think it ever was.

[@vexs4883]

Warren R yes sue a huge company your most likely going to lose cause they have shot tons of money and really good lawyers sounds like a solid plan

[@thecharredone329]

@@kaelin8775 yup

[@johnmiller75]

Gather up your paperwork. Signed agreements, etc. get your ducks in a row and try to find a real person to talk to on a phone about this. 400+ is a heck ton and you can’t make more than 2 mistakes. I wish that a false claim would give THEM a strike

[@WallyHartshorn]

re: " try to find a real person to talk to on a phone about this" Ha ha ha ha ha! Yeah, not going to happen, which is a big part of the problem.

[@tienouttatien8942]

He's in the wrong, the song in question contains an uncleared sample from a Curtis Mayfield song called "Nothing Can Stop Me" kzbin.info/www/bejne/ooLIomNqj9KloKs

[@vigglewiggle5396]

@@tienouttatien8942 April Showers isn't the song that is being disputed. Also, sampling is fair use.

[@BonziBUDDY]

KZbin is more corporate, so of course they turn a blind eye to the people.

[@YCCCm7]

You're SUPPOSED to be able to sue for false DMCA strikes, but youtube has terms that cockblocks you from having the right. It's a point of contention in their terms of service, but so far that's how it goes. KZbin's system is heavily geared towards copyright holders.

[@nicholasm4830]

KZbin should have a system where they strike the people who claim the content. For example, if they make 3 false claims then they can no longer claim for copyrighted content or there is some kind of limit after 3 false claims

[@MrCatstache151]

This is a very good idea

[@michaelh8368]

That is true but it’s an automated process, but letting them off totally free of charge is very unfair and has to be changed.

[@stonekll2308]

There is it’s called the law you can’t false claim your basically stealing from that person

[@sapokee2830]

everyone's been saying this ever since the system started doing this garbage, and nothing has changed. i dont think it ever will

[@saltypepper6235]

After 3 false claims, ban. And that will cause the bots to be unusable and will open up a new job: the youtube video claimer for people

[@JustRikas]

This is where KZbin should make it so that you have to show EVIDENCE that the video is copyrighted and not just saying; "That right there, yeah it's mine now" Good luck with this Mumbo, we're all supporting you through this

[@blueberry1c2]

Well, youtube "tries" to show the segment of video that was claimed, but its often right baloney. Fir instance CodysLab got a video claimed for LITERAL SILENCE

[@thewannabeweeb]

@@blueberry1c2 You S###ing Me?

[@aquaticguardian3754]

@@blueberry1c2good God who copyrighted silence, if so he's making an infinite amount of money and being sued by the world

[@blueberry1c2]

Story is the company made instrument samples and one of their videos had a long period of silence in it... still baloney

[@trevikk]

The reason they don't do that is because so many copyright claims come through, it would take forever to do that.

[@SoshJam]

KZbin’s copyright thing would be fine if they simply implemented one thing: Innocent until proven guilty.

[@bubblingbluecrab4813]

And repercussions for false claims. Otherwise the claims can still be used to intimidate, harass, silence and financially hurt creators (even if you as a creator win and get the money, it could be held for more then a month and sometimes livestreams and suprchats are suspended until the dispute is over)

[@bubblingbluecrab4813]

@@techie8359 youtube is still protected by article 230 that means they are not liable for anything their users post, the copyright claim system is a privillage, they could do away with it all together and force the claimants to go after the posters directly. This would be a significant increase in the work of the claimants but at the same time youtuber creators will not have the tools at their disposal to counter claim and will have to go through the courts themselves. Either way youtube isnt liable.

[@Joeink100]

@@bubblingbluecrab4813 but if company's pull out of doing adds on KZbin then youtube don't get money.

[@inanjarif1388]

Instead it's guilty until proven innocent. This whole thing is an Ace Attorney game, isn't it?

[@layers3458]

Inan Jarif it's guilty until proven innocent in 16 different ways

[@gognhere1307]

Imagine Mojang claiming all MC vids on this platform

[@marv659]

Imagine Google claiming KZbin Videos, because they are on KZbin xD

[@kasper7203]

Technically Mojang would be able to make such a claim.

[@adriangjonca680]

That’s basically what Nintendo does

[@mcxopjesh]

@@kasper7203 except Mojang gets the internet, and they know they wouldn't be where they are now if it weren't for KZbin. Same with KZbin not being as big as it is now if it weren't for Minecraft.

[@kasper7203]

@@mcxopjesh I agree.. But it is something I am never sure if it is a good thing in reality. If you look at cases like Rodriguez the singer songwriter who is living in poverty despite his songs being known by almost all South Africans, then it is difficult to say whether breaking copyright agreements really is as harmless as people seem to believe.

[@sivertb3515]

Everyone: Fix the broken copyright system! Susan: Huh? You said *MOVE THE COMMENTS ON MOBILE?*

[@eveescastle5866]

KZbin is on a collection course of its own making and everyone is basically forced to watch it happen because there are no viable alternatives. There are some promising ones but they are fairly obscure and it would take some work to bring them to light and even then they aren't all good. Some are just unintuitive and lack basic features youtube has like key word search which makes finding content a nightmare.

[@mr.preston1632]

KZbin is just the worst sometimes

[@mr.preston1632]

@@georgieluvsu The world is

[@chaitanayanathalia2480]

ya thats so fckn dumb

[@white_exe8053]

sad

[@NotACardboardBox]

MUMBO, DO WHAT DANNY GONZALEZ DID! When Danny’s videos were copyrighted, he literally tweeted the company responsible and literally told them he was “reviewing [his] legal options” in order to take action against them. He did this to TWO companies and both companies canceled their claims.

[@bitsandbirbs4174]

"Surely it can't work a second time, right?" *But it DID*

[@kiancroxall2099]

YES!!

[@NaughtyNovaroo69]

I agree ☝️

[@MrHi-lz7ln]

Me 2

[@kitttycatz7778]

Greg

[@manspeej]

You know the copyright system is really really broken when Mumbo has to talks about it

[@Dan-su8qc]

You know it's broken when you can make a better automated copyright system in Minecraft using redstone.

[@diama629]

@@Dan-su8qc lol

[@gamerboy_1052]

I agree, they think mumbo is to great and they have to make a big deal out of it. It they do come out wrong they need a lil punishment

[@noage9084]

Mumbo should make a better system using redstone

[@yoshi4946]

@Jen Hansbrough How is this relevant to the conversation?

[@jakeread9668]

See this as an opportunity to sue, because that's definitely what it is

[@scrappydudes1783]

It is his full time job, so he could probably sue them for the money he lost lmao

[@hayleycakes3435]

Dude it takes money to sue, lots of money. Mumbo might have a chance, but this is bigger than mumbo. This has been happening to channels big and small, and needs to stop like yesterday.

[@caydendewit47]

Here, Here. Sue them

[@eswee6780]

@@MikooOnKZbin I mean, he should have enough money left-over to effort a lawyer. Especially given that "only" 25% of his money is being stolen.

[@sipoffinewine5798]

The issue is the size of KZbin makes it hard to sue it's not impossible to sue them for this as it is an infringement on rights at least here in America were I live you could sue for it

[@charslatts2994]

Was anyone else recommended this exactly 1 year later. It still feels weird without Mumbo's intro and outro.

[@mreeper25]

yes XDDDD in didnt even notice it was from a year ago i tought it happened now

[@yourbeloved5251]

Yeah

[@jellyduck4249]

Yes

[@aadarshraghuwanshi7022]

1 year 1 month later

[@creeper_ninja_]

Bruh fr I just got it too

[@Nitrinoxus]

Warner Chappell went after another KZbinr earlier this year, and was forced to rescind their claim two days later after the backlash from fans hit them. I say we head straight for their PR inbox like the heat-seeking Creepers headed for Mumbo's storage system!

[@dragobane4728]

Wow, what a way to just say d-dos them

[@Nitrinoxus]

@@dragobane4728 It's less plausibly deniable when you put it that way.

[@arionerron4273]

Good plan

[@noobski2798]

D-dos when

[@Nitrinoxus]

@@noobski2798 I'm not really the person to ask about scheduling coordinated DDoS attacks, but if I had to put down a time, I'd say... 12 noon on Monday, GMT?

[@lukaswatke4147]

Mumbo: I have 400 copyright claims KZbin: I can’t see anything

[@KalaniMakutu]

More like "La la la, I can't hear you", only to find they too were copyright striked by Meat Depressed.

[@Lanausse]

404 likes

[@someguystudios23]

PLEASE NOBODY LIKE THIS COMMENT IT HAS 420 LIKES

[@sabersz]

KZbin: I'm blind lol

[@ryc2236]

A video with no music: KZbin: This video has been claimed by Warner Chapel

[@perpetualsystems]

A pixel of a frame in your video is the same color as a video of ours. CLAIMED

[@nubslayerex]

um, what about his intro

[@Blackholebirb]

@@nubslayerex he is allowed to use it, they are on good terms, him and the person who made it.

[@kaldeathar3462]

@@nubslayerex Mumbo explains this at 2:35 or so. He has a written agreement to use them.

[@nubslayerex]

Yeah, I know. The guy Mumbo talked to might have had his music stolen by WC

[@julianbeatty9102]

Imagine if his mom copyright claimed this video because she made his voice

[@nikorinmp]

Same logic

[@yukitai9063]

But I'm God, so I made her voice, her husband's voice, MJ's voice, your voice (Also, God has no voice, they/I show via actions)

[@augwa5645]

xDD

[@osstheboss8022]

What????

[@haze1118]

lol

[@hachingozaimas9202]

Good Content: Exist Warner Chappell: *It’s free real estate*

[@vindovilles3419]

Lol 🤣🤣

[@gotetheraccoon]

Also UMG is a common "striker"

[@RepoDraghon]

Warner Chappell Music I went to their Twitter and reported them as spam... everyone needs to go there and do that too

[@user-bx8pu2fi7g]

"Allow us to introduce ourselves"

[@lucaszhu1028]

Claim Warner Chappell's videos and claim them so that they can't be viewed anywhere. Protesting the abuse with abuse against the abusers.

[@andrewmarthie5062]

Yes,Mumbo please fix the redstone of the KZbin algorithm.

[@youtubeminute4388]

They have too many repeating command blocks.

[@macenanoro826]

KZbin Minute And they all send messages that say "Skittidy scootity, you are our property!"

[@IdaeChop]

There is a water that destroyed some of the redstone

[@tjerkvenema3018]

Grian did the Redstone

[@justinruiz5054]

They had some creepers inside the redstone. I'm sure you know where this is going.

[@JoeJenkins]

This is absolutely ridiculous. KZbin's system has been broken for a while but 400 videos claimed automatically on a channel with 3 million subscribers without any kind of red flag going off is not something that should happen. I hope KZbin will step back from their 'don't get involved in copyright claims' stance for this one and help you bulk dispute them all. That being said, as Roomie pointed out on Twitter it is also worth checking if ProleteR actually owns the full rights to all his songs - as I know April Showers is mostly a sample of another song. Also I'm fairly certain that you will not get a strike for 'falsely' disputing a claim for the first time round, although the only person who will decide if you are right is someone from Warner Chappel themselves.

[@slookyyy8205]

That’s what I’m trying to say

[@drkintrlopr290]

What's Joe Jenkins doing here?!

[@ianhamilton9600]

Hold on so the judge is someone from the big company claiming his videos? And KZbin won’t get involved? Who’s to stop them from just deciding that every single dispute is wrong? Where is the order!?

[@merkiniesto1509]

That’s the big issue with youtube’s Copyright system. The accuser gets to choose whether or not they want to accept your dispute.

[@nellie3184]

@@drkintrlopr290 it the same thing as if Jaiden Animation commented that. Anyone can comment most things on most videos.

[@resijade4342]

This would be like if someone accused you of stealing their phone, then you have to wait in jail for months before you get proven innocent and the accuser gets off with no punishment at all.

[@sietsedegrande213]

That's actually exactly how the law works

[@breadconsumer9320]

You mean the American justice system?

[@auberginemanproductions1608]

Americans: First time?

[@chclt_thndr]

That’s America for you

[@ricochet4674]

@@breadconsumer9320 our country is quite broken

[@carsonhartnett1105]

An actual video criticizing youtube on trending! 😱

[@chrisng2525]

RobinTIS The Iron Sea Congratulations, -KZbin- played themselves

[@Muhammad_Nuruddin]

Well, we know how wrong the 2019 KZbin Rewind would be.

[@CAceDubz]

666th like

[@MrB0SS]

KZbin: Innocent until proven guilty? Nah! Guilty until proven innocent? Yeah!

[@theangrypotato2.031]

*kanye west looking dissapointed* *kanye west looking happy*

[@geomochi4904]

Hotel? Trivago.

[@thearmyofiron]

@@theangrypotato2.031 just like how japan is

[@TheASaurus1]

3 million people on YT: AWE HELLLLL NAW!

[@jjjx32]

that's how goolag works

[@JustJum]

KZbin: why are you copyright claiming mumbo? Claimer: *YES* KZbin: ok you have full rights to this video now.

[@Michael-fr6lo]

So fucked

[@sethflower2067]

Just Jum no more like “Claimer: RUBBER DUCKY TOOTHBRUSH BUCKEY SLIPPERY CAMELS FALL FREQUENTLY MITTENS. KZbin: Okay you have full rights to this video now.” 😂

[@liquidminds]

More like: Nobody: KZbin: ok, ok, stop asking, just register as a content-owner and you can strike channels no question asked. We surrender.

[@sedastiannomoca9609]

oh you forgot the part where mumbo email KZbin and KZbin egnors it

[@maplesyrup6382]

Why do people dislike this video? The people that claimed it did so

[@karai5082]

The reason that this is a problem is that even though mumbo has an agreement with proleter, proleter doesn’t have an agreement with someone made a sample, that was 0.4 seconds long, that was used in part of the intro

[@teunkleingunnewiek4934]

Geels bad

[@hamley9744]

if it's a sample for 0.4 seconds then its fair use lol

[@mr.preston1632]

Still, its basically ruining Mumbos careers

[@alexhobbs2209]

@@hamley9744 it's not how that works lol

[@TheLked]

The main Instagram page for Warner Chappell has disabled comments. Ryan Press is the president of A&R and is easily found on Instagram with a quick search. He might be interested to know what we think of this.

[@azulknight474]

I like where this is going

[@liamh9064]

Drake Wilson same

[@TheASaurus1]

instagram.com/p/BwYc5cjAQc2/?igshid=ryja7frfxmip I'm leaving my comments here. If he gets a large comment spike, it may get some attention.

[@Yee485]

Watch dA video too

[@StrikaAmaru]

@@TheASaurus1Done. And because I'm a believer in very politely threatening people... "Dear Mr Ryan, Your company has made (as of yesterday's count) 400 fraudulent copyright claims on KZbin, regarding 2 songs by the artist ProleteR. The artist is not, and has never been, associated with the company you currently lead. We are aware that KZbin is historically terrible about punishing false DMCA-ing, but this doesn't mean everybody else will share in their attitude. Do please stop this blatant stupidity."

[@GrimJahk]

A bot screws you over in two minutes and it takes you 12 hours to fix it. Yup, broken.

[@sheenberkski8591]

Yup

[@somedude2963]

Corporate sabotage. Review your legal options, hire a lawyer, all of that.

[@adventureaeryck]

like me

[@bde3616]

Decently Derpy truly greg

[@Atropos866]

@@bakedpotato_1396 you are truly Greg, and be sure not look up growth rates on KZbin.

[@ethanlivemere1162]

@@bakedpotato_1396 I see you are a man of culture. And legal options.

[@abaddon101]

Well damn. KZbin really is broken if this is recommended to me OVER A YEAR LATER.

[@jaydenmirchandani1950]

Hehe

[@kittyvidi4371]

Yes

[@kittyvidi4371]

Same

[@epileum67]

Same

[@kittyvidi4371]

@@epileum67 ok

[@jasonkeats931]

youtube sounds like they take copyright very seriously without actually taking it seriously

[@gamerman6405]

@F2P Gibus Noob go away scout

[@FerHDz7]

3 strikes And Its DONE

[@lemonboiyoutube]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z3vaoGinmJxrh7c

[@sheenberkski8591]

Yeah

[@redsox258]

They take it seriously in a way that profits them, they want to demonitize everyone for any reason they can come up with.

[@ericl9738]

It’s crazy how easy it is for companies to unfairly claim videos and steal ad revenue. Really hope this sorts itself out and goes back to normal!

[@user-zz3sn8ky7z]

Eric L press x to doubt

[@supersuccfcy5863]

Press X to REALLLLLLLLLLLLYYYYYYY DOUBT

[@jakubb8472]

I can claim this video, and I didn't have anything to do with it.

[@ericl9738]

super succfcy I never said I thought it would happen, just that I really hope it does get fixed

[@shannonravenclaw2195]

KZbinrs: KZbin: wait, that’s illegal

[@hikaruishida1420]

Outsanding move

[@nirellesampang4311]

KZbin supports channels that post more than 1 video a day like bright side and company channel's I think there is no more you in KZbin it's ridiculous like what the heck KZbin man you can't be famous on KZbin if you did not start when KZbin was fresh like smosh which started early they are big

[@Potaytowhales]

KZbin: OBJECTION!!

[@nirellesampang4311]

@@Potaytowhales Every small channel: we OBJECT the algorithm is messing us up and we have the permission to use copyrighted stuff so what you gonna say now youtube

[@Potaytowhales]

@@nirellesampang4311 KZbin: HOLD IT!! But its still copyrighted so sorry thats a strike

[@dembrowi_n_c.5111]

I was expecting the most epic moustache ever my life is a lie.

[@mynameissuziesuziewithaz8257]

Hahahaha, same!

[@zarovskisnt]

First time huh

[@yourbeloved5251]

Hah same

[@noahdoesrandom]

I can’t believe he lied to us

[@mertozbek680]

First time ?

[@tranarchist6335]

You should sue them for abuse of copyright law

[@NotLe0n]

A law suit costs a lot of money and is *very* time consuming. (example: h3h3 lawsuit)

[@Hat_shaped]

You can't really win... you waste a lot of time and money on these a**h*les who don't deserve it... and even if you win.. they could possibly just pay up by the money they earnt through their illegal and sh***y methods (and maybe even continue afterwards)

[@robertmendez8383]

KZbin should actually do someething about the false claims cuz its not just Mumbo getting hit. Check out Repzion and onisions claims

[@martijnvanweele6204]

With what money?

[@samlh52]

Samuel Ares. Yes papi. KZbin is gay

[@EliteElk221]

Glad your addressing this Mumbo, you’ve got my full support!!!

[@T.Tagges]

Mine too!

[@millie-pj3st]

Hate to be that person but you're*

[@TranslucentMediaFilm]

Mine too. I will cross my fingers. You are my favourite Ytuber

[@jdragon8812]

Mine also

[@millie-pj3st]

@ScoutSniper Never heard anything that true until now

[@okayge_]

I would definitley take legal action. This is so messed up on so many levels including legally.

[@tom-esvar]

But how do you handle 400 claims at a time, you should be able to box all the cases and present one big one. Otherwise you *will* get the 3 strikes.

[@jenkoloret9725]

@TerrorisingChicken Maybe even sue them for slanter and defamation. I think a decent lawyer could make a legit claim for this.

[@arielsproul8811]

I think a lawyer could get ~5 million subs in a few months by representing these KZbinrs in court and making videos explaining the outcome of each case

[@okayge_]

Jenko Loret Yeah, he could probably just say that if they dont remove the claims he will take legal action. Most companies or whoever is doing this will get scared and not risk it because abusing copyright law is a serious crime.

[@user7421]

Imaging the internet claiming every media because it's on the internet

[@liamreade]

The U.S Armed Forces would be doing the claiming mate, it was their's first.

[@perereiii5160]

Mumbo needs to join the KZbin team. I think he has enough skill in redstone to *compactly* fit and fix this design.

[@notabeachuk]

Gacha W0lf yes😂

[@vilmamanreza4840]

*I agree*

[@KittyCat-YT]

OwO

[@waffthewaffle]

LOL YES

[@amsard4953]

I wouldnt say compactly to be fair, but I am sure his will work better lol.

[@KaiSub]

Mumbo needs to put his foot down and tell Warner Chappell that he's looking into legal actions if they don't remove the claims, because legally Mumbo is in the right here.

[@NotACardboardBox]

Lizz Wellne Are you truly Greg? I’m asking because Danny Gonzalez used this tactic twice. 😅

[@KaiSub]

@@NotACardboardBox Of course I am! But that's not why I suggested it, haha.

[@suneenough]

@@dmnos1 Of course not, but you can usually get your legal fees paid once you win!

[@KaiSub]

@@dmnos1 But if he gets all of his disputes denied he's up shit creak. The thing is that Warner Chappell know they're in the wrong, and that they're abusing youtubes shit system, so once Mumbo starts talking about his legal options they'll back down, they always do.

[@cagiestmonkey8585]

Don’t worry mumbo, if this keeps happening you have 3 million people who have your back! We’re here for you. 👍

[@GS-px7oh]

:)

[@momsundercover]

**channel gets taken down** Oh well, guess i'll never watch anything that is related to Minecraft anymore.

[@karmicknight]

To be honest, I doubt all 3 million channels active.

[@leotrace9158]

3,088,15*

[@minoarno7415]

3 million people just moving to pornhub for Mumbo since it is seen as a good youtube alternative lol

[@AngieTheCatGD]

This got recommended 5 years later in 2024. Reminds me of how Warner brothers are copyrighting everything regarding the minecraft movie teaser.

[@Twilight_Buster]

Warner Chappell: Copy strikes Mumbo Community: TIME FOR A F**KING CRUSADE

[@Bodoko]

YEAH FUCK THEM

[@Bonnie-wk9ze]

Like seriously 400 videos ??? Like wtf KZbin and warner chappel

[@grugiv]

We be goin’ sicko mode.

[@doctor7842]

DEUS VULT!

[@Crutchces]

#fuckWarnerChappell

[@crownmetal]

Someone got their VOICE claimed. There was ZERO music, ZERO footage, just simply a person talking. Someone got THEIR OWN SONG claimed. "Oh? You made something original? Give me money." This is stupid, KZbin is digging their own grave. NOT COOL. edit(06/29/2020): good jesus this comment from a year ago got WAY more attention than i thought it would, lol

[@klapudo119]

Happened to a Song of TheFatRat

[@TheDeadOfNight37]

Someone got claimed for a video of their pug and nothing else.

[@LuxAce]

@@klapudo119 I heard, super unfair

[@benjaminpattison1907]

We should claim all of KZbin's own KZbin channel's videos. How quickly will this force them to fix it?

[@twa9995]

CzechGamerCZ I agree

[@funnylaughed7423]

KZbin: what’s your reason for copywriting this video? Guy: I want it YT: ok

[@unwono]

Your profile picture is really relevant for this video 😂

[@olle5555]

UNWONO r/woooosh

[@mesaplayer9636]

@@olle5555 not really a woosh

[@olle5555]

Mesa Player r/ihavereddit

[@unwono]

@@olle5555 just stop. This is not a moment for GOOD subreddits

[@made2098]

Famous KZbinr: exists Big companies that already have enough money: we will watch your career with great interest

[@standerrick5361]

Not just famous, any channel in existence

[@adityabhalekar3506]

Seeing a SW ref on a minecraft vid "A Surprise to be sure, but a welcome one"

[@adityabhalekar3506]

@TowBy the Mudkip LMAO

[@vedantbhard]

Mumbo!!! Your tweet was posted to reddit!! We all love you and are behind you in this.

[@diggitydingdong]

127k upvotes, and the top post of all time on r/assholedesign

[@Echs_D33]

I got here from a r/gaming cross post.

[@antonioreyes9859]

r/pewdiepiesubmissions lots of posts about this

[@Spagote]

I got here from r/teenagers and there’s tons of support

[@ultr42]

link?

[@ArtBoneOFFICIAL]

KZbinr: *criticizes KZbin's copyright system* KZbin: *puts video in trending page* Also KZbin: i pulled a little sneaky on ya

[@zenmasterwannabe]

KZbin's algorithm is dealing with some inner-conflict, needs therapy.

[@mabelcorne]

KZbin doesn’t put videos on trending, it’s based on how fast a video gets views, how many subscribers that person has,a whole fuckton of algorithms

[@gerardcummins2580]

KostecGaming r/woooosh

[@mabelcorne]

gerard cummins r/woooooooooooosh indeed

[@aenoofficial]

@@gerardcummins2580 You need to learn what a joke is.

[@beanbyte]

This worked twice for Danny Gonzalez. Make a tweet that is something along the lines of "@WarnerChappel I'm currently reviewing my legal options." The two different companies attacking him completely dropped the claims. I'm not joking please even check his video. Edit: I have the top comment on a copyright video. I can put that on my resume.

[@clickbait7396]

*Yes.*

[@antoniokf5]

Warner Chappel is a way bigger company than billiontoyreviews or something

[@raspite3195]

@@antoniokf5 With more money to take? Sure.

[@sarah-janemccall562]

@Mumbo Jumbo this is true. It will also save time.

[@ItzFridayz]

@@clickbait7396 *Indeed.*

[@PigmentBlanks05]

I think that KZbin actually forgot that they not only need big companies and advertisers but also the creators .. If there is no creators there will be no place to put their ads on and advertising companies will have to encourage new create Ors and existing creaters , creaters are actually KZbin's valuable customers , and KZbin doesn't know how to take care of thier costomers..while doing guideline strikes and stuff KZbin really needs to think from their side too..then they will understand the feelings.

[@accountdeactivated5546]

🖕

[@jacobschoenbaum1338]

Redmi K30 5G what?

[@vsm6847]

KZbinrs need to lawyer up and start a class action suit... this has gone on for too long.

[@markulyssestabasan3064]

Marvel: Endgame is the most ambitious crossover ever. KZbin: *Does several massive oopsies* KZbinrs: Hold our beers. KZbin: YOU DARE OPPOSE US MORTAL?.

[@quentk8886]

TRUE

[@snerk_]

I would love for KZbinrs to fight back, but doing something like this may cost them a fortune

[@snerk_]

@Sisyphus Sapiens If that's the case, then let's wait for war lol

[@TrishaRyan]

My entire KZbin channel is dedicated to uploading music compositions I've created - that I made on my own, nobody else. Days, sometimes weeks of time spent making these tracks. No sampling. I don't even use a midi keyboard, just the program. I had been a (hardly) paid KZbin Partner for a couple of years and then all of a sudden, KZbin decided to demonetize my channel and all past and future videos, claiming that I was uploading music made by other people. I have not uploaded any music from other people. Just music I have made by myself. Even my status is clear. Absolutely no strikes. No claims. Nothing. I have been through at least 4 or 5, maybe 6 reviews now all coming back saying the same thing - I'm uploading other people's content and my channel cannot be monetized. And of course there is no way to dispute this. They don't even send me any emails. I had found out because I didn't get paid. They won't even tell me what videos I supposedly had stolen.

[@TrishaRyan]

And then you have to go out of your way to keep checking the status to see if you've been approved or denied, of course only to find out you've been denied and then *they won't allow you to file another review for an entire month.*

[@vr8652]

Working on a similar project with live music. I may not be on it for the money, but accusations against originality that are false is just absurd.

[@TrishaRyan]

I wasn't originally in it for the money, but I'm a single mom without work, and the $100 every three months is better than nothing. Here's the really lovely part... They're still placing ads on my videos.

[@kylefinn5301]

Yea... companies will exploit it to get money and steal content. So I would recommend you stop uploading music to yt and upload them to SoundCloud or something until this gets resolved. Plus, by claiming your videos, they get access to AND will put a trademark on it and sell it as their own.

[@keith_]

ooof, that sucks. I wish there was something you could do and it would actually work. Keep trying though!

[@chrisgrib1381]

KZbin:KZbin is fine nothing is wrong. Also KZbin: Yes put this on Trending.

[@thomashuang5053]

Yes CEO, this video right here

[@moostachepikachu4085]

Yes that's weird

[@lelandgillham]

Who else thought that when he was saying "Warner Chappel", you thought he was talking about Warner Bros lol

[@ZomBeeNature]

The system *is* broken. Companies even claim Public Domain recordings of Public Domain songs.

[@someguystudios23]

NOBODY LIKE THIS COMMENT IT HAS 69 LIKES

[@mr.rabbit5642]

Lol, that's so fucking messed up

[@FireRupee]

The community should push for change. Maybe a collective letter to YT from content creators and users?

[@waah5901]

@@FireRupeewhile that makes endless sense and would be the best way to do it but unless every top creator threatens to boycott yt, they wont give a shit ahaha. KZbin don't care about you

[@someguystudios23]

God dammit.

[@king_pineapple3266]

I’ve seen many people get unfairly copyright strikes but this is taking it too far

[@shaelynweslynkunkel2797]

Yes KZbin fix your copyright issue

[@mr.boomguy]

400 claims in a few hours. That should ring some Bells!

[@michaeladrianciruela2846]

Mumbo: **makes videos** Waner Chappell: "hippity hoppity you're now my property"

[@14104]

@@maximilianfranz2158 hippity hoppity, *edgy grandpa strikes again*

[@JamesBond-xx1lv]

Ima travel back in time and use this somehow. Don't worry about it.

[@coolspeedgun3518]

Are you a voicey veteran

[@JamesBond-xx1lv]

Mr. 5.56 hmm damn somehow i missed that, but I still wanted to tell you to go fuck yourself anyway.

[@vijeyasenaveluppillai1369]

Hippity hoppity mumbo jumbos channel is their property

[@user-iu6vn3fv]

Random but i just got here because today this guy called hwang hyunjin from the kpop band stray kids who last month won artist of the month and got around 10mil. Views on it and he worked months on it and now warner chapell took it down and we are infuriated nobody is doing something since they are doing this for the past 3 years and it's litteraly stupid

[@kingdededethegod5313]

KZbin's copyright system is honestly so bad, you can get claimed just for saying the word despacito

[@eyesack6845]

*gets claimed

[@streetcube-x3h]

First Copystrike. Only two to go and you hella out of here xD

[@gl1zzy999]

Good job getting the video claimed, buddy.

[@mv8qh]

despacito

[@thilensavignon1999]

Be careful, your comment will be claimed

[@gwpgamingandfunnyvideos7497]

Mumbo: I got copyright Fans: Grab your diamond sword

[@newttrz]

You mean *redstone*

[@BasicallyIncrediblyBored]

@@newttrz no bc as he was trying to say that we are going to fight for his claims

[@zennith5224]

No one: LITERALLY NO ONE: Large groups that own a lot of music: EVERYTHING IS MINE YOU ARE ALL PAWNS FOR MY MONTHLY INCOME

[@vairysp3176]

We are going to sticky piston-push the copyright claims.

[@kanzunhawari6172]

Nah... Just use"@kill", it would be quick

[@ChickenScratch]

Good luck Mumbo. I've been watching your videos for 4 years. I hope everything turns out fine.

[@qwertykeyboard5901]

KZbin: We should limit the amount of copyright claims that can be sent to a channel KZbin: Nah

[@gingerfool]

Teeheehee

[@diablo2706]

"#11 on trending" Yup they know. Will they fix it? No.

[@4oli800]

jeez man i knew how broken yt's copyright system is, but i didn't expect it to be that bad I hope you all succeed

[@whiskeytengofoxtrot9670]

Its not youtube the laws are horribly outdated

[@raspite3195]

@@whiskeytengofoxtrot9670 No, it's KZbin's copyright system that is broken. KZbin has a system where companies can claim and strike any videos. The bad thing is, if you want to remove it, YOU CANNOT ASK A 3RD PARTY OR KZbin TO REVIEW IT. You can only ask the companies "please". And what huge company on earth does not like money? This is Mumbo, a nice, clean KZbinr. How about people with edgier content? The copyright system is actual bullcrap.

[@kingghast167]

This needs to be heard. If this can happen to the larger creators like Mumbo what’s happening to the smaller content creators. I hope you win Mumbo. Good luck with the 400 claims. Wish I knew more on how to help.

[@alexso820]

King Ghast my friends channel got copyright claimed, they then just quit and deleted their channel.

[@LadyVineXIII]

I tweeted #FreeMumboJumbo #BoycottWarnerChappell Honestly, I think strength in numbers is the only way we can help.

[@RecompiledBirds]

Smaller channels are getting destroyed left and right. It’s 1800+ claims now, I think.

[@hayleycakes3435]

This has been happening for months now, the problem is no one gives a shit til it happens to them. Its happened to big names, but the smaller channels are what suffer most and are preyed upon more often. There have been tons of youtubers that this has happened too, over a period of a year, and KZbin has yet to give a shit. If they don't care about it happening to their golden boys, they sure as shit aren't gonna care about some redstone youtuber bitching about it.

[@ΚοσταςΚαλιακατσος]

Nice house in the backround Also u are right this needs to be fixed

[@Bonniegamer360]

"KZbin Copyright system isn't broken. The world's is."

[@diggs4191]

Tom Scott viewers also watch

[@mydickisincrediblytinyandi7380]

:0

[@MalcomFV]

r/im14andthisisdeep

[@Synthels]

@@MalcomFV what??

[@dominatorjam4428]

Tom Scott be like

[@stephenmayoryk4991]

We’ll show ‘em what Fire Aspect II feels like. #SaveMumbo

[@priyanshugoel3030]

Bane of arthropods for these spiders.

[@LGivik]

Priyanshu Goel Smite they are zombies

[@goldkat1]

CHANNELING TO SMITE THE UNWORTHY

[@mybutt268]

nah add just put impaling on your trident sooner or later they probably drown in dept,or tears maybe both

[@iniesta8856]

Lol

[@doaa7941]

Wow, no way, a big corporation taking advantage to independent creator and the youtube copyright system? *I bet youtube cares a lot*

[@strikefallgaming]

DoaA I feel like it’s YT at this point, not the company

[@mona7465]

StrikeFall Studios yeah

[@nirellesampang4311]

There is no more you in KZbin they should fix their name it should be company'stube

[@SkippyTheLost]

DoaA Warner Chappel was not involved in the claiming of videos. Check out LinusTechTips’ video about it. kzbin.info/www/bejne/p5XNkp6rgsaKlcU

[@strikefallgaming]

cgcoyote cow it’s automated, if a video does better than his average videos it’ll possibly go to trending.

[@Thunder-bw9xm]

I would recommend getting a lawyer to talk to, along with making sure that the dispute is 100% error free, as if it had been written by a lawyer, then copy/paste the message to each dispute. I would also send a message to both youtube and Warner Chappell, asking youtube why this has happened, and asking Warner (as politely as possible) what claim they think they actually have. If Warner responds, that would give you some time to see if their claim could even be considered possibly valid on any sort of grounds, and if not, sue them. They shouldn't be able to defend it if you've done your research. but getting consultation is a very important first step.

[@vojtastruhar8950]

Yeah, but now you have to pay boatload of money (that you are not going to see again) for a lawyer, just because someone just had the idea to make a bot that claims your channel

[@robbywings]

It's Sunday as he said, it'll have to wait until Monday. I'm sure he will though.

[@aaronking2020]

Everyone like this 👆

[@mikuwong]

And the same company claimed Hyunjin’s AOTM video 😡😡😡

[@generic_soda]

KZbin in the old days: A fun job KZbin now: A fun job that is 100% risky

[@fredygump5578]

Assuming KZbin is a "secure" job in any sense of the word...is a big mistake!

[@3vorp]

Coppa is the dumbest thing in the world. Fine, hide videos that have swearing in it from people under 13. That seems fair, you don’t want a 6 year old screaming f*ck because their favorite KZbinr does it too. Taking the money from a video they put time, effort, and money into is just plain rude. You’re taking their money, not just their profits, but their insurance, eating, and heathcare money too.

[@Brahvim]

​@@3vorp ...But, yes, hiding wrong stuff from us kids is exactly what COPPA is doing, which is correct! I mean, no...the fact that you can't even comment IS stupid, LoL! You shouldn't be able to see other's comments, but should be able to comment and blah Blah BLAH!

[@bruhmomentwhyamidoingthis4687]

Brahvim what?

[@doppevan]

@@Brahvim are u missing a brain cells?

[@tttITA10]

7:27 is just Mumbo low key promissing to turn Warner Chappell's social media communication into hell. And I like it.

[@jamesdean9934]

and honestly, good on him for doing so. making false claims? ruining their social media seems like a more than fair trade-off.

[@maverillion4610]

Have you seen it 20 hours later, they screwed like wow mumbo fan base too op

[@attilalorincz9910]

I've just imagined Warner Chappell's incoming notification rate and their face looking at it. I'm laughing so hard.Good job Mumbo

[@FrostBird347]

@@maverillion4610 lol

[@GloriousDutchPancakes]

it already has! and it is bloody beautifull!

[@blacknight1833]

Mumbo: exists KZbin: Stop you've violated the law.

[@JochCool]

wait. that's illegal.

[@estherkhoo6513]

Mumbo: ah shit here we go again

[@kiweping5]

I think you mean youtubers in general not just Mumbo

[@kiweping5]

Miguel Hernandez Delgado were you talking to me or...

[@kiweping5]

Oxidezz _ I know that’s what I just said

"KZbin's copyright system isn't broken. The world's is" - Tom Scott

[@mihirx27]

So Mumbo is Guilty Until Proven Innocent. Didn't know that KZbin used Witch Law in their Content ID Claims. Edit : 400+ likes for a Sabrina reference. Thanks, I guess? Also, Do watch the Netflix show if you can, and are legally of age (16+), cuz it can get pretty dark in there.

[@louisewest8810]

Zenthic Epic dude calm down

[@jackburns6403]

@Anthony Mangano I don't think he was commenting with racist intentions

[@lazyanimator4188]

Also Napoleonic law. Annoying as heck.

[@Nindroid-zw7zc]

Mihir Bhole woah that’s amazing (not good)

[@zacharytrudell2411]

That's how the world works nowadays.

[@ariamathias2134]

That's what we call exploiting the system nowadays... KZbin seems week against that.

[@vindovilles3419]

Weak*

[@Simon-ps3oj]

*joke alert* *joke alert* Really? I thought it was "day" against that.

[@TheRealHelvetica]

Thank article 13 for this

[@eloisanzara237]

Keep in mind that KZbin is a company. From their eyes, this is really profitable, especially since it has become so popular. Also, any lawyers or attorneys here confirm if this is illegal or not?

[@TheRealHelvetica]

id Ferno This is exactly what the EU wanted. Automated copyright strike systems to be implemented across the internet.

[@jmrumble]

They have to keep advertisers happy? Without you content creators, they have nothing to offer advertisers.

[@scarstewart175]

#17 on gaming. KZbin has to notice this

[@may.d.a.y]

they don't push gaming it's been happening for a long time. KZbin doesn't care

[@PrototypePlatform]

#15 now its growing xD

[@redaksi0666]

Holy Smokes

[@sheepcommander9445]

#26 gaming

[@sora5662]

KZbin doesn't care at all about gaming. Go watch game theories video where he calls out the how Google doesn't consider top gaming channels as proper influencers.

[@ROLLIN2247]

Mumbo you need to get a lawyer just in case!!!!

[@Justin-fk6br]

Screw just in case, he needs one now!

[@flaxyd]

ROLLIN TWINTURBO he can put him in the closet so he will have one when it's en emergency, like now!

[@melonmaker289]

Ya good idea

[@RunicSigils]

It's not just in case. They have made a legal claim and are now open to legal resolution. Even being sued since they're now taking some of his earnings illegally.

[@LockheedRep]

Legal eagle

[@my-king]

You are on Trending! Hope you get this fixed! The system is broken and open for abuse as shown here.

[@deditor7867]

@flynn marxsen USA

[@my-king]

@flynn marxsen UK

[@Automaticstudioss]

xXLiL_GupXx What KZbin is doing can be seen as illegal. You cannot take away revenue. And you cannot spam users... AND you cannot allow Corporations to spam fake copyright claims. Legally that company can be sued by Mumbo here, and they will loose no matter what. KZbin will get sued by said corporation for letting them file these claims.

[@eeimantasgataveckas8566]

Mumbo: Makes an intro with a song that he can use. Warner chapel: Hippity Hoppity some of your money is now my property.

[@JTSF]

Correction: All.

[@riverplasmahero2508]

I agree, there really needs to be some serious repercussions for people who make illegitimate claims. And Warner Chappel in particular is really bad about taking advantage of content creators. Your fans are behind you 100% Mumbo. Don't give up, and don't get discouraged.

[@LadyVineXIII]

Have you met the guys Welsknight ran into. They were making claims and they didn't even hold the copyrights.

[@riverplasmahero2508]

@@LadyVineXIII Actually that's a good point. Wels was basically a lawyer for years, if he can't help Mumbo himself, then surely he knows someone who can. Or if nothing else there's always the get a big group of affected content creators together and sue KZbin to make them fix the system option.

[@MikeAckerschott.]

Well, not 100%, because it got some dislikes tho. More like 99%

[@arcangelv16]

You sir have the right idea. If the content creators can get copyright stricken for incorrectly disputing a claim, then why not implement the same system for making false copyright claims. There has to be some legal way of banning a company from making copyright claims if they make 3 false claims. This mantra of claim everything because you can without consequence needs to be stopped.

[@thegtry4706]

Definitely

[@whitebloodcells7750]

Mumbo: shows himself in the video Some divine being: Hey! I created men! This is getting a copyright strike

[@Grey-The-Skeleton]

You look like the shopkeeper in Enter The Gungeon. Is that intentionnal?

[@Vonias]

God: "gimme your revenue"

[@brothyr]

he's shown himself in his film channel videos.

[@zessh.9669]

we dont need revenue but what ever you think of us i guess

[@sadiakhurshid8087]

@@zessh.9669 hello

[@Hutch2Much]

pull a Danny Gonzoles and tweet that you’re “checking your legal options”

[@FireAlarmFreak]

Yea do that it actually works

[@th3doctor764]

That should work

[@signgames3717]

Best idea ever.

[@lukeavr]

I could not agree more & also cannot believe I’ve found someone else who watches Danny and mumbo

[@ohohoho7056]

Legally skilled 😎

[@hemishramchurn1492]

5 years later, they're back at it again, this time, THEY CLAIM THEY OWN C418'S STUFF

[@nova_i3702]

Next, redstone video: -Mumbo makes an original volt door. -Door company claims the video for featuring a door.

[@midnightnotracer]

video: how to craft dirt dirt company: *hEy wAiT tHaT's IlLeGaL*

[@aaronking2020]

Video: Paying off a illegal hacking group to destroy Greedy corporations Software company: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[@Cartasio69]

*vault

[@zytzig3564]

Welsknight had the same problem... talk to him about it

[@Klayton_bs]

Wayward Winchester is another person!

[@kobibryant4203]

You know its bad when a god dam minecraft channel is getting effected

[@lilith1544]

Your point?

[@patrickjamessilerio9884]

Yep

[@thegaminggeek8504]

NiraNekomata No, it's usually the small channels that are getting affected, not just "controversial" channels. ThFatRat, for example, got a copyright claim a few months ago on one of his original songs. Also Jake Eyes got a copyright claim a month ago so it's not really new.

[@mahirooyama9424]

@@thegaminggeek8504 thefatrat's channel was taken down for "multiple violations of community guidelines" he got it back around a day later.

[@xCptLegendx]

Enough to make a grown man cry

[@JohnJCB]

Right under this is a recommendation from Tom scott about how the youtube copy right system isn't broken

[@iplayedagame5376]

Same here

[@Sevrgpro]

Tom’s video starts off talking about this one.

[@gidster192]

When a Minecraft youtuber starts talking about KZbin issues that’s when you know the system’s seriously flawed

[@audreyhogan8285]

Gidster1 yeah it really is

[@cerulean_cat8702]

Gidster1 69th like

[@kevagames850]

I mean, in this context, the Content ID system worked. Warner has a right to claim all of Mumbo's videos because his intro song uses a sample of a song licensed by Warner.

[@terner1234]

@@kevagames850 but he has written permission to use it

[@kevagames850]

@@terner1234 It doesn't matter. The guy who created the intro theme sampled part of a song owned by Warner and he didn't get permission for that. It sucks but Warner is in the right.

[@gwpgamingandfunnyvideos7497]

Update: Eminem's song Stan is also claimed by WarnerChappell as someone else uploaded it. The flip, Eminem has the right to do it only. That means WarnerChappell is nothing but a beach lasagna.

[@andrewb378]

WarnerChappell "claims" that they're claiming content on behalf of the person who owns it basically saying "Well if they *knew* it was being used without their permission they *would* claim it but they don't know so we'll claim it for them." It's like if I made a cheeseburger and went to the bathroom but before I came back my friends showed up. Then my one friend goes "Well if Andrew *knew* his burger was here he would eat it so instead *I'll* eat it for him" It's actually insane that youtube allows that because everyone knows WC doesn't go then to the artist that made the song like "Oh yeah we got this money for you from this random guy who was using it on perfectly harmless content on youtube"

[@bruizapottzy9043]

Eminem bout to end this mans whole career

[@streetcube-x3h]

KZbin Copyright System is ABSOLUTELY broken I seriously hope for you, that they would fix this problem

[@spotty2012]

No, but they designed the system wherein a company can make claims with absolutely no legal right to do so, profit off of the videos they've illegally claimed, and then suffer no consequences for doing so

[@RecompiledBirds]

They should have punishments if it’s proven false. Like deleting the channel that made the false claim.

[@martinsindans1341]

TheFatRat song got "the calling" got copyright claimed. Idk what happened next, but the channel was removed. I dont know for how long tho

[@aleksamarilovic9405]

The fact that KZbin's algorithm is recommending this video after a whole year is so annoying. Even more so because that problem doesnt seem resolved properly... But at least they moved the comment section, right? 😒😡

[@Hans-gb4mv]

There is nothing to resolve. Warner Chappell was correct in claiming the music as they own the original work that was sampled by the artist without him taking a license on it to be eventually used on this channel with a license from the artist who did not have the right to do so. And if WC does not want to give a license, that is their decission.