Rivian R1T Door Construction Analysis

[@naeem_bari]

Very well done, and glad to see Munroe cultivating the next generation of engineers!

[@aurelio-reymilaorcabal9669]

That will be one of Sandys legacies, he should be retired but he keeps on ticking,and saving companies money.

[@JoieVientLeMatin]

Ditto!

[@Resist4]

She did a really good job, very professional sounding.

[@FarzadMediaINC]

Alex has a great voice!! She should start a podcast for y’all!!!!!!

[@RogerM88]

Simp.

[@1983mack1983]

I was going to comment the same thing actually about her voice. Very pleasant sounding

[@spssajur]

And knowledgeable

[@bernesto2468]

Good to see Munro supporting the co-op program (great job Alex), getting practical real world experience while still in school so helpful, it is a shame that more technical universities do not offer that option

[@Sal3600]

None of this happened in my 4 year electrical engineering degree!

[@johnpapiewski7022]

Alex is so articulate & confident. Hire her TODAY!

[@rodolfoyoshii8345]

Super confident and articulate, correct. It shows she has a good command of the subject matter. She will have a great career.

[@donjones4719]

I've seen it done, I know a couple of young women who were hired before they graduated - they had a job the moment they got their diploma. One was what I call "frighteningly smart."

[@rmeden1]

They probably will. When I was a co-op (1987) I knew I was going to get a good offer from the company. The college recruiter even approached me when I didn't sign up for an interview slot. I said "it's covered." :) I went back to the same group I co-oped with. Alex was great! She spoke well and seemed to know her stuff.

[@fmucklo]

Ben is getting better on camera. Alex is a natural. I'm loving the tear-downs.

[@peteregan3862]

With out Sandy on screen, they all shine.

[@robcossin4690]

Way to go Alex, you have a long career ahead of you!

[@Weezedog]

Good thing Alex did the teardown because Sandy would have had a heart attack with that many screws, especially the screw right next to another screw.

[@andrewashmore8000]

Exactly

[@1djbecker]

At a guess, that was prevent rotation. A molded alignment feature would be better, but it might have been faster to simply add another screw boss in the CAD program. This is likely to be a quick-turnaround low volume part, with a redesign as production ramps up. The extra screws around the speaker assembly is likely to add rigidity and avoid vibrations. Figuring out the minimal acoustic solution is much more difficult than a mechanical one, so overkill is more understandable here. Bottom line: over-designed so that they can under-engineer.

[@donjones4719]

Worse yet, for the one application where they should have used screws they used glue - those access panels to repair broken glass or the regulator. The hourly labor rate for a repair will add up to... let me estimate it... *a lot.*

[@TisforTech]

lol

[@TisforTech]

How many screws should we use???? Yes.

[@steeglehman1237]

Alex, your cadence and delivery are spot on for communicating what you found from your tear down. Fantastic that Monroe is helping provide opportunities to fill your brain up. I can see you already brought a lot with you and are ahead of the curve for communicating what you learn. Look forward to learning more from you in the future in whatever you dive into. Well done. Solid.

[@spuddy4063]

YAY, welcome to the channel Alexandra Kekel. I hope you have an excellent stay at Munro & Associates. It is a welcome sight to see new talent at Munro being recognized and promoted to show off their true calling as an engineer. Congratulations on your well put together dissertation. I am an absolute fan of the Munro team for showing off their staff. Wish every company could learn that their greatest assets are their employee's.

[@chrismarquardt]

Excellent job, Alex!

[@MunroLive]

Thanks!

[@richardalexander5758]

Nice presentation, and welcome Alex.

[@MunroLive]

Glad you liked it!

[@ardenpeters2952]

Thanks for adding in more experts!

[@arnecarlsson9740]

Alex, Great job! You will be a star on Munro Live! Good Luck!

[@normangebhardt2092]

Thanks Alex and Ben for this interesting and informative video.

[@MunroLive]

Glad you enjoyed it, Norman!

[@ichigouzumaki324]

Good to see new faces. Keep up the good work guys and gals.

[@MunroLive]

Thanks! Will do!

[@Toure420]

Alex have such a great voice-over voice it's amazing!

[@raddaks2039]

Good job Alex! Nice to see more faces around Munro.

[@alejandromeneses7735]

Alex is knowledgeable, explains everything clearly and has a great voice with excellent volume and intonation. A pleasure to learn from her. Ben, as good as always. Top!

[@MarkGoshorn]

Great job Alex, I appreciated your perspective!

[@darrencsturgis]

Thank You for having a co-op program. My Brother and I had a co-op program in Graphic Arts and Mechanical Drafting & Design. I was in a recession in 1982 New England so I went another way. My brother went from co-op to full time for the same company , for 50 years!

[@jeffmoberley550]

You guys are going to make Sandy have a love/hate relationship with his truck:)

[@deejay4922]

Ben's really coming into his own niche as these dissections evolve. At first, he was a bit awkward as you might expect a shop engineer to be but in recent episodes he's proving to be a competent & respectful host for these tear downs. This is an important program for those of us interested in the details of how these vehicles are put together. Good job here.

[@nonyanks2510]

Ben, you have come far Pilgrim! Alex, smart very good communicator. Rivian has some work to do to lean things out. That was fun!

[@392redienhcs]

Great help is hard to get. She's articulate, knowledgeable, and a great presenter. Quite a keeper.

[@ruftime]

Great job! Got to drive my neighbor’s R1T in LA this weekend, very impressed after driving Teslas for a decade. Historically, the closest his truck will get to off-roading is parking at the Greek Theatre😎

[@rickscars7395]

Thanks for the great video. In regards to the interior door panel with screws vs plastic welds, I own a w222 Mercedes S class and noticed a lot of creaking from the door grab/handle when I close the doors (exacerbated in hot weather). Upon pulling off the panel to inspect source of noise I noticed the panel is plastic welded AND the source of the noise. Nothing I could do to fix the problem. Here is where I think screws are an advantage as used in the Rivian.

[@cienciadedados]

So much talent in this company. How are you finding so many good engineers?

[@RogerM88]

How to you even know they are "good"? Just because they know how to talk with fluency?

[@Prositon1]

Wow what a soothing voice and subject matter expertise. Looking forward to hearing more

[@drfish69]

Great work by the engineers behind the Rivian door panel!

[@timw1971]

Simply great commentary from Alex. I wish I had that confidence at her age.

[@jschlock448]

Excellent! Alex does a great job with clear voice too

[@oddarne]

Alex is a natural! She’s a keeper. 😉 Great to see so many excellent people at Munro getting a chance in front of the camera.

[@wongman2001]

Alex is so natural on camera and works great with Ben. And we finally get to see Eric! Love this channel

[@hardyvonwinterstein5445]

Alex did great on the first show. Competent and professional. Nice voice too.

[@laloajuria4678]

A+ for a non-sandy presenting team!

[@budgetaudiophilelife-long5461]

🤗👍 THANKS BEN AND ALEX…for sharing this with us 🤔😍😍😍

[@MunroLive]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@latemhh5577]

THAT voice. Can listen to her all day!

[@amon_san]

i love that you're also giving the younger generation a place in the limelight. well done.

[@DouglasJMark]

Well done Ben and Alex. Congratulation Alex, you're not only a natural and talented communicator, but also an inspiration for the future of humanity. We older folks can feel comfort in knowing you will take good care of our little blue marble as it hurtles around the sun for generations to come. (Maybe add a little red marble as well!)

[@miljanc]

Great job Alex!

[@jayz007]

great job Alex!

[@ryanstubbs3211]

Nice work Munro, and especially you, Alex.

[@PhotoHoag]

Great job by guest presenter! Awesome for more women in engineering and young minds excited about improvements.

[@emceh]

I'd love to see Alex more often :-)

[@carloscarpinteira3717]

Rivian have a great product. Their concept, their ideas and solutions are just great and I hope that Munroe will be able to help them to improve their production and keep doing this truck. Thank you.

[@darrencsturgis]

Yes Alex, you have an inspiringly bright career ahead of you!

[@lastboyscout6437]

Thanks for participating in training new engineers. Its been hard for trainees to get a place in Denmark.

[@jamesengland7461]

Excellent teamwork, you two!

[@xyz12334567898]

Awesome video, keep it up!

[@MunroLive]

Thanks!

[@Smarmey]

This channel is criminally good.

[@kappy765]

Screwing is used to save upfront tooling costs (vs US welding/heat stake), which is a consideration for startups, even if it’s cheaper when amortized. Also, it’s great to see Kettering co-ops holding their own.

[@TOMKATPEDALS]

Yeah I was thinking the same being a new production product it’s holding them over until they can actually scale up. Almost like a beta run prototype to see how it holds up.

[@GET2222]

@@TOMKATPEDALS yeah… but 120 screws, per door! That’s nuts.

[@TOMKATPEDALS]

@@GET2222 it totally is. Hopefully rivian can learn to scale production and actually make some money in the future.

[@ElectricAdventurer]

probably the same reason for the glue. Couldn't get a seal maker for that part yet due to supply chain constraints probably.

[@johnnicol8598]

Future versions will be cost and screw reduced. They will also fall apart. Like pretty much everything does today.

[@willinwoods]

Everyone is so talented and good on camera around Munro's! I would have been a nervous mess if it were me, going onscreen as a relative newbie, but this went great. Well done!

[@CharlesPare]

Way to go girl!!! You definitely have a place in the field. Go show them!!!

[@Kilowatt887]

I would like a car with so many screws. After a few years when every car interior starts to squeak, you can just tighten everything back and be happy. Also when a car comes back in warranty or small complaints about squeaks or scratches or something, they can replace just little damaged parts from that door panel, instead of changing the hole thing. And that also helps being eco friendly and recycling just a small part instead of a whole panel.

[@Kulric]

The screws in the door pocket will allow replacement of the elastic strap when it gets tired.

[@ricknplano1401]

Alex is a natural. Excellent job.

[@ThomasMarteau]

Thanks Ben and Alex. Very instructive comparison. Clearly, an episode on the making-of could be entertaining too! We would love if you apply Munro ideas to video production ;-)

[@larryspiller15]

Great duo. Both are knowledgeable nerds 👍

[@rockyonguard]

Nice work Alex! Luv this stuff!! Awesome to see how today companies are promoting internships.

[@stuartcarter2690]

Really good video, thanks for explaing everything so clearly.

[@Eric-xp1kl]

Another great presentation on the R1T! I can’t take the slow rollout of videos. I need like one per day to fix my addiction please and thank you! 😊

[@Alb3rn-]

Alex is awesome!!! You guys should hire her!!!

[@GET2222]

Wow. 120 screws is nuts.

[@shortaybrown]

Great explanation job guys. Thanks! The Rivian does look a little complicated and difficult when it comes to maintenance or replacement of the window.

[@redhorse554det1]

well done , thank you for the detailed video.

[@andrewashmore8000]

OMG Sandy is gonna freak out when he hears there is 120 screws per door. That seems a bit mad in fairness.

[@poplaurentiu4148]

No need to downgrade or decrease Rivian quality for cabin insulation since the softer materials need to be properly fixed not flapping, also gaps between different materials that have different structural build of doors faces resulting in overall superior quality they also have sound & vibrations proof much better then Tesla, that is why lots of people who own Teslas are ending up resale them and putting deposits to buy Rivians because quality does matter.. No need changing for Rivian that is already good, the changings need to be made on Tesla for better quality if they still want people to like them, specially for Tesla Plaid that feels so cheap inside compared even to an Audi RS3 but yet Tesla are charging people so much more instead offering a good balanced quality interior for that range of prices ..

[@andrewashmore8000]

I do agree with you sir. I think customer satisfaction must comes first and then cheapness of construction second. If it takes 120 screws to do the job right , well so be it then , screws cost pennies so won't effect overall cost that much maybe will cost assemble time in labour though. I've seen cheap do panels on my vito van and it is super annoying. Agree build quality of audi is probably far superior. 120 is a bit much though . Would have thought maybe about 40 to 50 would be ballpark.

[@greasemonkey1489]

Screws are more forgiving than misaligned molded retaining clips. Especially for a startup. Easier to mold simple parts (simpler molds) and drive screws into them

[@DorkJelly]

@@poplaurentiu4148 Lol...just no. There are not "lots of people" reselling their Teslas for Rivians. And people are still buying up used Teslas for higher prices than new ones. If there truly were quality problems as bad as you are trying to portray Tesla demand would have collapsed ages ago especially with alternative options out there now, and yet people still wait over a year to get them, and people still buying used Teslas AFTER inspecting them. Tesla has no more of a quality issue than any other company including rivian and other luxury brands. The outsized attention on quality of Tesla is just a media made up narrative like "range anxiety" for EVs. Another narrative that gets busted when consumers own the products. The only difference is the name"Tesla" sells and generates clicks. If you go on Rivian forums guess what....there are complaints about build quality and gap issues. The difference is most people dont run to KZbin or twitter if they have issues with their new Mercedes, Honda or even Rivian. Why? Because they know that nobody cares.

[@poplaurentiu4148]

@@DorkJelly My opinion was formed after driving in Europe Tesla cars and plenty other full electric vehicles owned by companies like Bolt, Uber.. etc, also after disqus about with few friends that are owners of different versions of Tesla, and since my uncle owns a BMW i3 the build quality from Tesla & BMW is like a mile distance but i tested other full evs like Jaguar i-Pace, Hyundai Kona & ioniq 5 ev, Kia EV6 GT, Audi e-Tron and volkswagen iD3.. all feel like the quality is superior over Tesla specially inside.. beside most Europeans are not such big fans of looking often to the Tesla center TV instead prefer & like a head-up display projected on the windscreen specially while driving in the night, as i mentioned i used to work as driver part-time for taxi services (Uber & Bolt) and sometime the night shifts is more profitable but is a much helpful feature, way better regarding safety and super easy to drive if the car has a head-up display projected on windscreen.. which not all Tesla's have.. beside the charging network can be shared so each owner decide what they like better and what not.. i put first deposits to replace next year / (trade-inn + cash difference ) for my wife old Volkswagen Sharan with a new iD-Buzz, i got a very good deal from my local dealers with lots of bonuses.. so yeah.. Cheers ! ;0)

[@fredbloggs5902]

Nicely done.

[@h57s]

Alex did an AMAZING job! Bring her back!

[@polkijain97]

Rivain is an off-road capable vehicle. Which means the enginnering design choices should have been made considering such conditions. Wouldn't it be fair to compare it to a similar category of vehicle instead of Tesla?

[@BeanEW]

I was thinking the same!

[@paulw575]

Exactly. The Rivian is made for rugged trails and up to 3ft of water. The Teslas aren't. They should have compared it with another off-road vehicle.

[@PhotoHoag]

Yeah I really think that plays into a lot of the over build. I would be glad for it if used and abused. But hopefully they can find more economical ways in future.

[@d3xdrive]

Team: The over-fastening on this door may be to overcome squeaks squeals leaks and vibrations caused by a powerful stereo system or indeed using the panel in that stereo as a a sealed air volume. In almost all of the cases you mentioned, I could see a plausible argument for this idea including the light strip at the top (that kind of plastic is notoriously noisy when it rubs). I don't know if the active and passive acoustics of the panels are considered in tear-downs or not, but I suspect you did not get the opportunity to hear/feel the door before you disassembled it.

[@rufus7376]

I was going to say this same thing! High power audio drivers need lots of fasteners. The baffle needs to be dead solid. She missed the boat on that section of the analysis

[@rayfoster7989]

At 10:33, I have seen similar "bolts" that match up to a hole in the door opening frame on many car doors and always figured it was for crash safety to keep the door within a certain position for occupant safety in a crash or vehicle crush characteristics. I don't believe it has anything to do with the door closing in the right position.

[@1djbecker]

It's for side collision intrusion. It ties the door and door beam to the aperture (side stamping).

[@williewalker8048]

Alex is a star with her confidence and knowledge. Nice to see a young whipper snapperthere to keep Sandy in place.

[@Knightairman1]

Okay so lots of over of screws, but if I'm taking this offroad, I want it to not vibrate thinks loose so soon. Have you been in an old 4x4. They make a lot of rattling

[@MrFoxRobert]

Thank you!

[@MunroLive]

You're welcome!

[@iConceptPhones]

I really love watching your video. Great work and feedback! It would be great, if you can also use an overhead camera for better view of construction.

[@RobertHamon]

Nice to see the next generation getting into it! Good job Alex, very clear voice and concise points. Maybe a touch judgemental vs sticking to xreferences/comparisons to hammer down the points. Loved it a great deal over-all so congrats to you Alex!

[@craigd8455]

For those saying 120 screws is to many. Too many screws, sure possibly, but too many attachment points not really… Most luxury level doors have upwards of 80 to 140 attachment points depending on content. Yes Rivian could save some money on screws by investing in plastic welding equipment but the quantity likely will remain very close to the 120 on the current product. Good video, great job Alex & Ben

[@jeffreyhampton9130]

Nice job.

[@MunroLive]

Thanks, Jeffrey!

[@Pedro5antos_]

Awesome content!!

[@MunroLive]

Appreciate it!

[@tobias..6688]

Wonderful voice ✌️

[@gmv0553]

Alex is a natural!!!

[@chriauc2976]

Wow that is total BonGO. My landcruiser BJ70 serie reputation to be a tank has 12 plastic clip to hold same thing in place ..

[@wernerengel4919]

Alex is a natural. ❤️

[@dhp9691]

Would be cool if you guys do a video addressing R1T wind noise and overall cabin noise levels!

[@tycurtin7565]

More Alex!! She's super cute and smart.

[@alanlight7740]

LOL - I was wondering when someone was going to state the obvious. Everyone on tiptoes because mechanical engineers aren't supposed to be that cute....

[@rleon8183]

Alex Kekel is smart and CUTE!!!! Give her more opportunities for tear downs!

[@mohamedh0786]

Love the Break Down, enjoyed it very much and very educational, Rivian forsure is over engineered, I am sure they are aware of that, It's always continuous improvements, Done an outstanding job for being their Very First EV

[@cybergigafactory]

She has done a great job! Would love to see her in the future as a colleague of you 😅 👏👏👏

[@capslock9031]

Not to take anything away from your technical knowledge, which is fantastic, but could you please record some asmr teardowns with that soothing voice of yours? Cheers!

[@jaykay1852]

Alex has a pleasant voice and is also pleasant to look at. She seems to know the sensible and resource saving construction practices that Sandy keys in on.

[@jamesengland7461]

Sandy will be lying awake at night counting screws. 120 in the driver's door, 120 in the front right, 120 in the left rear, AGGGGGGHHHHHHHH!!!

[@JRattheranch]

Just be thankful that Mr. Munro isn't available.... 🤣🤣🤣 He'd be apocalyptic seeing so many screws and the added weight and labour! 🤔🤗

[@strykerace]

Great Job Alex! Sandy better watch out, Alex is coming for his job. On a more serious note. If there is a shortage on screws, we now know Rivian is to blame.

[@Wised1000]

In fact that bolt on the corner of the door, is not an alignment feature. Its a door re-enforcement for side crash performance. In a crash it serves as an anchor point for the door into the pillar. The IIHS has made its side T bone test significantly more severe this year. You will probably see a variety of adaptations to door frames, side rails and door mounting hardware as manufacturers adapt to the new standard. For example, on the new EQS, the front door bracket now include a very thick L bracket which when closed forms an almost 1/2 inch thick locking cage around the attachment bolts. Something that they had not done before.

[@slartybartfarst9737]

Sandy is right, from the outset screws should tend to zero, use clip/lock features.

[@abcqer555]

Alex was fantastic

[@streetmoney21]

Great job Alex, you really highlighted where and how Rivian can reduce cost and be more efficient. Looks like Rivian should really listen to Elon and try to drastically reduce the cost of goods sold. Getting rid of all those screws reduces weight and can improve the efficiency of the battery. I hope they are listening. They have a great product but need some really good engineers that can reduce the number of parts required for assembly. It would help them to ramp up big time.

[@mgarofalojr]

Great job Alex! Just loudly clear your throat every 15 seconds like Sandy does and your voice would be perfect for podcasts.

[@MrSnicol]

Sherman tank comes to mind!!

[@mkzenthusiasts]

My 2016 Lincoln AWD MKZ has that locator bar you call it. I believe it's for extra support in a crash than a locator

[@georgemaurice9179]

excellent presentation and commentary by both of you I also agree with Jason Wiese, Sandy would have had almost unprintable commentary (although funny if you are not the recipient)