Murdaugh Podcast Ep. 40: Jury tampering? Retrial?

[@cathygoodman5113]

The timing shocks me. Buster breaks his silence and does an interview talking about how the tables were tilted from the beginning then Alex defense attorneys want a retrial. Kind of sketchy I think.

[@lisafox5801]

Good comments!! . I immediately thought that this was just another plan played out by the defense in the masterfull chess game that started way before the trial ended. I believe they have a list of ideas to counter everything. Put doubt out there, script a narrative so absurd that the cout has no choice but to give him a new trial. Sickening!!

[@pollsfriend]

The timing was certainly well played. But it sounds like they have credible evidence here. So regardless of whether the timing was planned or not, this looks really bad.

[@lisafox5801]

@pollsfriend yes, possible evidence is true. I was listening to another podcast and they reminded us that affidavits, even if good intent by the giver, have been infallible. All truth will hopefully come out eventually.

[@brendakauffman2222]

@@lisafox5801 Agree the defense has tried and tried to get the verdict overturned. They are sore looser. Since they are AM's friends and part of the good ol boy system I don't really trust them. Was the clerk paid off or were several jurors been paid off as well? We have to look at the allegations and see if there is any substantial proof that validates it.

[@The.ARCHIT3CT]

Sketchy how? It just seems that the they had a plan as to how to roll all this out. That's called strategy, not sketchy. Sketchy would be writing a tell-all book about things you shouldn't have been doing.

[@elizabeths113]

I was a juror on a triple murder trial in 2004. Sequestered for 7 days. The Clerk of Court never came to the juror room. There were several deputies that stayed with us the entire time. Even at the hotel, they were there all night. Ate meals with us, rode the bus to and from Court house with us. We were allowed 1 call at night and the deputy stood in the room while we talked. This was in Georgia. Maybe it's different here.

[@mariapilarme]

Don’t believe what they say

[@ashleykane4951]

Exactly!!!! Tons of police and deputies!!!!

[@pollsfriend]

@@mariapilarmedon’t believe what the say in spite of multiple sworn affidavits. Ok Jan.

[@brendakauffman2222]

@@mariapilarme me neither.

[@peppywood01]

Well, according to 3 jurors on this case…the clerk of the courts interfered with the jury in an unethical manner.

[@TennesseeUSA2023]

Miss Becky was so below the belt in the things she wrote in her book. As a woman I took issue with her talking about a juror having her monthly cycle and how she and her assistant saved the day because they had feminine products on hand. How embarrassing for a juror to read this and see them play like they were saving the day by providing what any public restroom normally has on hand. Miss Becky came off like a ditzy, self absorbed, small town woman who has a very high opinion of herself. "Big Fish in a Small Pond Syndrome".

[@ZeldaParis-vc5bl]

💯💯💯💯

[@Buddy869-z9x]

Yeah…that was unnecessary, but my eyebrows went up at what she wrote about a juror being behind on child support. I think she’s a good administrator and the trial was a credit to Colleton County. I wish that had been reward enough.

[@sarahcarter113]

Agree 100%!!!

[@mariannesouza8326]

Cheese’n’rice, that’s really juvenile! 🤯. I’m surprised there’s not a prohibition or at least a time constraint on the Clerk or Court being able to write about the cases.

[@jenmdawg]

@@Buddy869-z9xnot to be a pedant but he was in jeopardy of getting behind if I recall and so his friends pooled the money so he could serve. How about the guy getting his traffic charge fixed so he could serve? My jaw was on the floor when I wasn’t yawning or feeling second hand embarrassment for her self importance. The book is a mess in a much bigger mess. I’m betting there is a re trial.

[@cassieshaffer8613]

So my question is why didnt the jurors bring this behavior up with ms hill during THE trial? Why isnt anyone talking about this?

[@pollsfriend]

Because at the time they didn’t know there was anything wrong with it. Remember, the attorneys caught wind of it through the rumor mill, then approached jurors. The jurors didn’t come forward first. It was probably hindsight and then talking to Alex’s attorneys that made them realize something untoward was going on.

[@brendakauffman2222]

agree this allegation comes after nothing they have tried has worked for a new trial etc.

[@sionnach3104]

@@pollsfriendThey we’re given directions by the judge EVERY single day of that trial.

[@sarahcarter113]

​@@brendakauffman2222This is a legal issue based on particular conduct of the court clerk in this case.

[@SuiGenerisMan]

How else does someone like Donald Trump, the furthest thing from a real Republican or Christian, have such devotion from the same type of people? Naivety, cult like devotion to rich people.

[@chrisleclerc5254]

The jurors whose sworn statements led to this accusation knew the court clerk was not in a position to influence their opinions in the case. Why didn't they come forward at that time? They were instructed to tell the court about any discussion regarding the case, prior to deliberations. Yet they kept it quiet until now, after the book came out? What makes them so believable? Perhaps they are disgruntled by what they read in the book. Jurors are capable of telling lies,, lest we forget. Just saying.

[@Felhoney1]

I think they looked to Becky for guidance. Not for her opinion on the trial but for what’s appropriate for all parties. From the few exerts I’ve heard from her book, Becky seems to have a lack of insight of how her words come across. Becks is an elected official apparently. From her own words she paints herself as an judgmental busybody. That played favorites. Lackluster.

[@chrisleclerc5254]

@@Felhoney1 Agree, she could be more refined in terms of basic "elected servant" etiquette, but there is no proof whatsoever that she tried to influence the jury. Just going with common sense, I'm thinking she prob. should not have written that book, BUT, more importantly, are the sworn statements of the jurors the defense team made huge efforts to track down, even true? Like I said, I smell a rat in the defense camp.

[@LoveandButter]

1. She did not have a "book deal." Self-published, sel-funded. However... 2. She admitted cheerily in an interview she had planned to write a book. 3. Jurors did not like what she wrote, so they were motivated by the book however... 4. She probably did not like Alex and 3 jurors claim she influenced them 5. If this is true, every jury she has ever worked with can be called into question! Think of the new trials that are possible... 6. IF she did this, remember: she was present with the judge during all discussions out of jury's presence but then she could have relayed anything to them.

[@justme33126]

Becky's co-author said on Court TV interview that the bailiff "was with the jurors at all times" so surely he would know whether Becky did the things she's been accused of. A new trial won't change the overwhelming evidence against him.

[@bobbic9868]

The Clerk of Court (or Deputy COC) position is so much more than the “hostess” you paint. The office is to be fair and impartial in all states. They handle court filings, they can be Courtroom Clerks, who create Minute Entries of every hearing and manage exhibits…just to name a few things. COC’s are NOT travel agents. I will be so disappointed if this COC acted in any way, inappropriate for her position. Being a COC (or deputy) is not an easy job but they should always be fair, impartial, and full of integrity. I have been a deputy Clerk of Court in several states (in the west), and it is a very demanding job requiring great analytical skills, communication skills, legal writing skills, and poise. I have worked for great elected COC’s and some that were NOT good. We shall see what happens! I really appreciate your perspectives.

[@Allthekingshorses2]

I think what they are getting at is that a glorified errand person should not be influencing the jurors nor giving jurors instructions about interpreting evidence presented… i think that’s the point they are making…. I think he is guilty but this clerk should be held responsible if she did what is alleged…

[@dorothygerard1170]

Yes she should be held accountable. If she did this she should have to pay for retrial. I feel it was unethical for her to write a book in the first place.

[@ZeldaParis-vc5bl]

Becky Hill contradicted herself in her book. In one chapter she described her position as being a neutral party like "Switzerland" and in another chapter when she was referring to the jurors trip to Moselle, she stated that "WE" speaking of herself and the jurors "Had our minds made up that day that he was guilty". In essence, she admitted that they had a Guilty verdict even before the trial had closing arguments. I would imagine the Prosecution, the Judge and all of Colleton County are humiliated and angry that she trashed all their efforts to have a successful trial. She became arrogant, self-serving and only thought about herself and how she could benefit and prosper from her position at the courthouse. At the end of the day, I believe Murdough was guilty and with that being said...Guilty or not he deserved a Fair and Just trial. His rights were violated and Becky Hill should be charged for Tampering with a Jury, Fabricating the FB post to have the Juror removed from the case and threatening not to give the Jury a break until the verdict was reached.

[@mpicewe3023]

Read her book. It was so boring.

[@MelVonMonkers]

Wrong about the Facebook to be cause. Anyone could have saved or shared the post. Which would have made it visible long after the author deleted it.

[@sarahcarter113]

Possibly some psychology involved here.

[@BamaCyn]

I want to hear from every juror on the AM trial and why no one spoke up each morning before trial testimony started. Do jurors now need to be admonished to include you can't talk to the clerk of court or bailiff about the case

[@sarahcarter113]

Seriously, yes. The jurors are told that the Clerk is the one ensuring that nothing like this happens.

[@mariaelenagarcia-f2j]

8:03 One more time alex becames a victim again. Lies and more lies just like june 7th and side of the road. Harpootlian did such of poor job during the trial, and Grffin also, their EGO cannot handle it. They should be investigated

[@moonchildpink5525]

This time Alex IS ACTUALLY A VICTIM even if 1/2 of what is said is truth,

[@Brockovich23]

Harp & Griffin are solidifying the definition of shady sly fox lawyer.

[@jansallings6654]

These 3 jurors are saying they and their fellow jurors have no integrity! If the allegations are true this means each juror and the bailiff ignored their responsibilities to help ensure the accused received a fair trial. Bring in all the jurors, get sworn statements from them, ask them if anything they heard from the court reporter affected their decision. It’s very likely they just ignored her comments.

[@crimenurse8264]

Definitely should be an evidentiary hearing and all the jurors and clerk of court questioned.

[@sharondivis1120]

In all the years I was a court reporter in Los Angeles Superior Court the Bailiff was the one who had interaction with the jury...I wonder if the Murdaugh trial was the only courtroom where the clerk was responsible for the jury...In other words, was this a set up from the beginning so that Becky Hill played a larger role in the trial?

[@valeriewilliams3886]

The bailiff was the point of contact for the jury here, at least that is what is being reported. I think everyone should wait until we have the entire story. JMO, it will look quite different when the facts are presented.

[@Buddy869-z9x]

I’ve been on three juries (one in Beaufort) but don’t remember having contact with the Clerk after the jury was seated. We just gave messages to the bailiffs.

[@brendakauffman2222]

Well Becky Hill would have been present for many cases that AM tried, and could have been influenced to take a payment and encouraged then to write the book.

[@BamaCyn]

Where was the bailiff in all this. They are usually within or outside the door of the jurors room. I'm interested in what the other jurors have to say about these affidavits by these 2 or 3 jurors. Also i would think there would be a video photographer recording the trip to Moselle property for the courts record. I would also want these jurors under oath on the wittness stand. That being said, if Becky Hill did do any of these things it egregious and a new trial should happen. Lets wait to see where this goes as this is all just allegations at this time.

[@SlkrMom24]

How in the world is Becky allowed to write a book?

[@ZenDreaming60]

Vinny, on court TV today talked with mrs hills co-author and he talked about who and how they got approval from some law/court system...so she could write/self publish a book.

[@ZenDreaming60]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/pJnPqXVonrt8l5Isi=DGuTVeLBcCSz2ziz

[@mariapilarme]

This is a free country.

[@cruizingwiththemullins2129]

No she wrote the ethics committee a Email about writing the book. THe email was vague and concerning how she asked. There were 3 pages of laws about a elected officials writing a book..

[@Buddy869-z9x]

She wrote in the book that one of the state Supreme Court justices “gave his blessing” to the project.

[@HouseofStaci]

how are they still positioning the larger guy soooo uncomfortably? Give him the same seating allowance as the other two!

[@Allthekingshorses2]

Just looking at the size of the other chairs, i don’t think he’d fit

[@HouseofStaci]

He needs some training on how to NOT face the camera-the focal point is the DISCUSSION not this guys’ full body and crotch. He rocks in his chair, shuffles his paper. It’s a distraction that could be solved with some training. I mean, this is a tv station for Pete’s sake-get media appearance training and stop showing us your junk. Ew.

[@coletrain3178]

His ass would not fit in those chairs, obviously not.

[@donkirchner4625]

Please change from swival chair or raise camera angle for future reference

[@gailhawthorne8856]

The guy that first came out as a juror to be interviewed said there was one who wasn’t sure but after discussing everything she quickly changed her mind. Pooter and his sidekick are grasping straws and I hope they’re found out about the manipulation quickly!

[@Rick-rw6xb]

I always enjoy these podcasts. I wish the young man would get to the point when talking. He goes around the barn twice to get to the other side.

[@jayes8191]

omg yes! It’s painful listening to the young guy. He needs some coaching on how to get a thought out of his mouth before starting a new thought.

[@lisalisa20907]

Oh my goodness I just typed a very similar thing. It’s really difficult to listen to him.

[@4sstg]

The information that convicted Alex has not changed. Writing a book is not wise for a clerk of courts so soon after a trial. It appears she wanted fame and money. Her book is subjective. So is she.

[@mimi.honey08]

My favorite three for Murdaugh coverage. Great video once again!

[@kristanlooney8898]

WHY would the defense hunt down these jurors and knock on their door after a case? That seems like it is stepping over the line. I think the defense put doubts in the jurors heads and possibly slid them money under the table to file these affidavits. Why did they come up all of a sudden? Doesn’t add up.

[@Brockovich23]

It's not farfetched! AM could very well just become incredibly creative from within his new concrete office to find new ways to tamper with the jury. This isn't his first rodeo. Also, please consider all the money he stole from innocent clients never that was never tracked down. In my opinion its plausible offshore accounts were cashed in to pay the three jurors to vouch for this accusation. It's a crazy theory but not one that's farfetched he wouldn't try. Look at all of his other shenanigans! 45:24

[@Sunshine_Suzie_Q]

It is very troubling to me that the defense felt the need to seek out jurors by knocking on doors. Very disturbing and questionable in my opinion. What they’re saying doesn’t come across as credible but for someone that just hears things every once in a while may be inclined to believe them. I’ve not read anything in the book that makes me question Ms Becky. There was no “book deal” as the defense stated. It’s self published. She said she respected the Murdaugh family. She’d worked with them for years. I can’t imagine how she is feeling right now. Prayers are going up for her.

[@Felhoney1]

Maybe that’s the plan. Becky may be working for the defense. The good ol boys often look to women to get them out of a bind. Hill is an elected official. So she’s a politician right? So she lies.

[@whiskeyhelps8182]

How insane is it that we elect Clerks of Court, yet appoint judges?

[@mariannesouza8326]

That IS strange. It should be an hourly or salaried job that must be applied for through an HR Dept., complete with background checks and reference checks that any other employee has to go through.

[@sionnach3104]

I just can’t bear listening to Jim Griffin and Harpootlian. Something stinks. The allegations are shocking but I’m going to wait and see what the investigation reveals.

[@Debra711]

Hoot and Poot trying to keep him from staying in State prison!

[@sarahcarter113]

Not necessarily. This is a very serious situation, and whether or not you believe Alex is innocent or guilty, he 100% deserves to have the evidence examined.

[@Debra711]

@@sarahcarter113 I didn't say that he doesn't. But, they stink.

[@mariaboden4658]

Thank you for this very interesting episode. One suggestion, clip on mics rather than handheld so they can be closer to mouths and at (roughly) the same distance for everyone on the panel. I found it hard to hear anyone other than Charlie well and had to keep turning the volume up and down. Just a suggestion. Thank you

[@jayes8191]

Totally agree! It’s like they don’t know how to “do video”.

[@bellpeppergreen8602]

Murdaugh bought 2 jurors

[@Brockovich23]

Off shore accounts cashed in!

[@vickimurray6803]

I tend to agree

[@jojoFranklin]

So now we know where the money went ….. forensic accountants needed.

[@Felhoney1]

Nah he just bought 1 Becky

[@Sumermak]

Awesome! So glad your back! Missed these episodes!

[@lynnlawson4471]

This has nothing to do with whether AM is guilty or innocent. What matters is the integrity of the process. We enforce rules protecting due process rights because constitutionally protected and sound process is fundamental. Just as we suppress evidence of a crime when an officer has violated the 4th amendment in an unlawful search and seizure, we do so because otherwise, police officers will continue to break the rules, take shortcuts when they believe someone has committed a crime. If a Clerk has tampered with a jury and nothing is done, that behavior is likely to continue and possibly worsen if Clerks and other court personnel feel empowered by a court finding such behavior “harmless.” Protecting the integrity of the process is more important than whether any one individual is advantaged when evidence is suppressed or when a new trial is ordered. I am very uneasy about the notion of a Court Clerk (a public official, elected by the voters of that locality) gathering material for her “tell all” book while overseeing a high profile case like this. She has already admitted that she planned to write the book BEFORE the trial began (she gave an interview before the defense filed the motion). We also now have as evidence, the book itself. While I have not read it, apparently she wrote extensively about her observations and interactions with jurors. If the jurors testify and confirm the veracity of the allegations contained in the motion, it is hard to imagine how a judge could justify not ordering a new trial. Assuming the allegations are proven, a judge could find that the error/violation was nonetheless “harmless” and that the jury would have convicted him anyway. That is hard to believe given the nature of the circumstantial evidence in this case and what happened with the “egg lady” juror who was removed. This juror was inclined to exonerate AM. As discussed here, first, the Court of Appeals (which now has jurisdiction over the case, since it is on appeal) must rule on whether to remand the case back to the trial court for the purpose of holding an evidentiary hearing on the motion. A different trial judge would surely be assigned to hear this and depending upon how that judge would rule, the Court of Appeals would have to enter an order remanding the case for a new trial. On these panel discussions, just a suggestion- if you are reporting on something like an excerpt from a book or an affidavit, you risk losing your audience if you do too much “thinking out loud.” Just have the excerpts ready and read them first. I got a bit frustrated trying to follow when everyone started rambling and musing before the passage/s were even read. Just read the passage first. Then if you want to reflect and discuss, it will make more sense to the audience.

[@CBJalltheway24]

Looking forward to season 2!

[@SilentWatcher-cl5sn]

😂

[@marieassaad-faltas1299]

​@@SilentWatcher-cl5sn, I don't think Alex Murdaugh ("AM") should get a new trial; he should be acquitted outright if it turns out ANY lies were used to get "the egg juror" off the panel. First, once a jury is sworn, jeopardy attaches. And a criminal defendant is entitled to the jury that was chosen and sworn. The exceptions are mistrial (hung jury, act of God, etc.) and certain types of reversals on appeal. The criminal defendant can then be retried without offending Double Jeopardy. But, when the State itself, or someone acting on behalf of the State (as Becky Hill was), causes the originally-chosen-and-sworn panel to NOT deliberate together, Double Jeopardy throws away the conviction FOREVER. Before the haters start at me, I am NOT a lawyer and never met AM or knew who the Murdaughs are before all this started. What I am is a Coptic Orthodox Christian quadrilingual LAWFUL immigrant MD, MPH who, thank God and WITHOUT A LAWYER, defeated an evil plan to frame me for "harassment in the first degree" which could have gotten me 36 years in prison. Yes, not a typo, 36 years. And I did before a jury with none other than Judge Clifton Newman presiding. He would have given me every day of those 36 years along with a stern lecture had MY jury, God forbade, gotten it wrong. What does that have to do with AM being cleared of the murders ONLY? First, BASICALLY the same people who tried to frame me are the ones who prosecuted AM; and they used against me MOST of the tactics they used against AM except for jury tampering. Not that they would not have tried it against me; they only probably thought they did not need it: that I would, God forbade, fall on my face as they called their first witness. Notice how Zelenka started applauding when Alan Wilson thanked Becky Hill? She was their insurance. They had learned from my case that they can't avoid a mistrial if there is even ONE honest juror on the panel. And Becky Hill had the Prosecution's and SLED's backs. Now, they have hers. Why is "the egg juror" ONE honest juror? First because she works in a lab, with monkeys, trying to find cures for cancer and such. There is no room for dishonesty in science. Do I want the guilty to go free? Of course not. AM may be guilty of financial misdeeds but NOT of murders. How do I know that? From the stomach contents of the victims. The coroner-without-a-thermometer lost the temperature approach for us. But the forensic pathologist who did both autopsies MEASURED the stomach contents at 500 mls in each stomach. Friends, that is TOO LITTLE for the death to have occurred so close to the time of the last meal. The death occurred AFTER AM had left Moselle for Almeida. That AM was at the kennels shortly BEFORE 9:00 pm has NO significance even if, out of his lying habit, he lied about it. The deaths OF THE HUMAN BEINGS occurred closer to 10:00 pm than to 9:00 pm, not withstanding the time of death of the cell phone batteries. End of story.

[@sharondivis1120]

I wonder if the judge was as blindsided as the rest of us....I can't imagine the conversation where Becky Hill excitedly tells the judge, "Oh, my Murdaugh trial book is coming out tomorrow!" and the judge saying anything other than, "WTF? What are you thinking?"

[@michellemitchell1842]

So much of what you are guessing about was discussed during the trial! You could easily go back and find it. Judge Newman said that it was his practice to choose the foreman.

[@notbornagainbornright5046]

Becky needs jail! My whole family is disgusted! Thank god the jurors are speaking up

[@mpicewe3023]

Feel bad for the stool the redheaded guy is sitting on.

[@knightwriter2989]

The guy on the right is painful to watch. FORM A SENTENCE!!! The two on the left are fun to hear and insightful.

[@lisalisa20907]

Typed a similar comment. It is excruciating time to listen to him.

[@valeriewilliams3886]

First and foremost, is it not possible that Dick and Jim did some underhanded stuff and could have “persuaded” those 3 jurors to say what they did? I find it very strange, timing is everything. I had a suspicion that his attorneys would pull something, this could possibly be that. Alex was guilty and still is. Would be interesting to hear what the other jurors have to say. I do not trust Alex, Dick or Jim!

[@trigremlin]

No. They signed affidavits under penalty of perjury.

[@IzzyMariel]

@@trigremlin and Becky took an oath. people lie and do stupid stuff all the time

[@mariapilarme]

These 2 are going to loose their license, people write false affidavits all the time. I don’t believe for a minute the accusations.

[@cruizingwiththemullins2129]

The jurors opened up because of the book the clerk wrote the jurors didn't like the book

[@valeriewilliams3886]

@@cruizingwiththemullins2129 well, at least 2 of the jurors that sat on the panel, the 3rd was the one that was removed. Seems sketchy to me.

[@bettycattk5298]

I think judge Newman was a judge that was just fine. However, if he was white, I wonder if everytime his name came up, people would start pandering and talking about how wonderful he was. I expect all judges to be fair and to “do a good job “. To me, it sounds as if they are fawning over a child who can tie his shoes.

[@Objection_23and1]

Guilty or Not guilty everyone deserves a fair trial im sorry and I feel worried so many people find that what Mrs Hill did/ said was okay.

[@ZenDreaming60]

Why not wait and see if Mrs. Hill is guilty or innocent of these act first? It’s not that we are “OK” with her actions, BUT BUT we don’t have the evidence that proves her guilty yet! 🤷🏼‍♀️🥴

[@tommymyers3183]

​@@ZenDreaming60sworn affidavits are evidence.

[@ZenDreaming60]

@@tommymyers3183 yes they are evidence! How ever there was a lawyer, either on court TV or one of the podcast channels talking about how this has happened before where people have signed sworn affidavit, thinking that they are helping the people asking the questions only to be interrogated later in a court of law, and for it, to be proven that they lied on their affidavits, because they did not understand the significance of what they were saying…and how serious it is to tell the truth and only the truth!

[@Felhoney1]

Omg her book is sus.

[@myamericans1112]

This is a very good program. I appreciate the clear and detailed information they gathered and how they are presenting the details. I watched the trial and was convinced of Mr Murdaugh’s guilt. But, they helped me see the reason he might get away with his conviction. Making him a very fortunate person. But still it’s 🤮, but a good program.

[@Nonameforyoudangit]

I expected (and hoped) that we'd have more commentary for this thoughtful trio, but never would have guessed that this would be the next Murdaugh topic of discussion. God bless us all.

[@ernestinephillipsawesome4295]

✨Very intelligent man in the suit and tie. He is awesome👍 He is Making Wise observatios.

[@beachgal2]

I just love you guys! You’re always fair and informative.. Please, never change. You’re respected more than you know.

[@sheilafinn1344]

Is it strategy from the defense to get Murdaugh off??

[@evelynmariesmith1345]

This smells

[@DianaBurkley-zu8kd]

Small town America isn't as idyllic as sometimes represented.

[@giseledesjardins8239]

The three jurors made their statements completely independent of each other and with a attorney representing them supporting them.

[@ANSNify]

I do think AM is guilty but the clerk sounded quite biased judging based on her interviews. Saw Netflix Murdaugh Murder season 2 yesterday and looks like there is going to be season 3.😅

[@Blacklabs2000]

Cover the guy up or have him sit in anything but a stool!

[@McQScot]

“She got a book deal!” Her book was self-published. In other words, she paid her own money to have it published. Shame on you. Bad reporting.

[@ashleykane4951]

I stand w Ms. Becky and the judge!!! Alec didn’t tell the truth about kennel being there until the trial. He lied for yrs!!

[@Sunshine_Suzie_Q]

Agree. I’m almost finished with the book. It’s a good read. These defense attorneys are grasping for straws. It’s all suspicious in timing also coming just days after the documentary dropped on FoxNation. I think it should be against the law for the defense to go “hunting down the jury” in ANY trial!!!

[@Sunshine_Suzie_Q]

Even Judge Newman told the jury that they were not under any obligation to speak with ANYONE about the trial & that if anyone pressured them for them to come straight to him!

[@Emy53]

I feel that Harpo's comments about him being a witness to the jury tampering, means he was present with the jurors and why didn't he expose any wrong doing during the exact tine Harpo witnessed it? He's a liar and unless the jurors say it happened, then I want to hear it from ALL the jurors. No attorney's should be alone with any juror except during the trial, in front of the judge and general public in the court room. Why was Harpo there as he claims he witnessed the tampering?

[@lulubells930]

Spit it out… Not another trial for Murduck. What a waste of money. Nothing burger.

[@chicosmummy]

It just so happens the only juror to be bumped is the one that would have voted not guilty.

[@Buddy869-z9x]

Nobody would’ve known how she was going to vote if she hadn’t disregarded the (daily) instructions by the judge to not discuss the case. I know that doesn’t resolve the questions about the Clerk, but I think anything the egg lady says should be disregarded…just move on to the jurors who actually deliberated.

[@chicosmummy]

The juror said in her affidavit the clerk asked her what way she was going to vote and she told her she was undecided and would wait until she heard all the evidence.

[@serteksales]

Listening to this in my car. I have to keep adjusting the volume…the AG is very loud and the reporter and producer are quiet. Perhaps some audio adjustments may be made? I love your analysis

[@lwgrantsmom1603]

So reassuring to see Charlie Condon weigh in.

[@SisterWomen]

Fantastic Job. I really enjoyed watching this. Well spoken, balanced. Perfect. My take is, watching the case myself I felt the heart of every person involved had been laid out. I truly admired the job done by all involved. To ruin that case for one person's corrupt intent ... I can't imagine a bigger travesty.

[@pollsfriend]

But the corrupt intent was to sway the jury. And sentence a man to life in prison. That’s a pretty big deal. The travesty would be if allegations were true and Alex DIDN’T get a new trial. How about we wait for an evidentiary hearing before we speculate too much.

[@depoquest7928]

I will wait and see.

[@michellemitchell1842]

The female points out how similar the language in the affidavits are. I noticed that, too. And peculiarly similar to phrases Harpootlian uses. 🤔 I hope that if these accusations are proved to be false and contrived this clerk pursues all these people financially.

[@moonchildpink5525]

Missed u guys and your commentary, glad your back. 😊

[@lisafox5801]

I completely agree that affidavits are infallible. This is not passing the smell test. I am intrigued in hearing more on your thoughts. Im not judging either way but there are 2 sides. Lets just hope the narrative being pushed by the defense doesn't cause lynch-type attack against her until all sides are heard.

[@juliecarpenter1532]

My three favorites!! Thank you for doing this

[@marlenemartin3528]

They’re drawing at straws. I’m calling it bull.

[@giseledesjardins8239]

Sorry but the guy on the right should not be on the show. He is bot a good speaker He may be good at orher things but not this.

[@bettycattk5298]

I agree. He uses too many words to make a simple point. He probably is a good candidate to take the controversial diabetic drug to lose his weight. I know 2 people who have used it with great results. See your doctor!!

[@MelVonMonkers]

Why???? the action's alleged actions of another does not make him innocent. Think about that.

[@annettebarnaville]

No book deal. She self published apparently

[@pattypalumbo5512]

I know I was on a juror in USDC of Boston and a few of the jurors wanted to talk about the case while it was still ongoing. We had to remind them that we couldn’t talk about the case. It was frustrating but all in all never discussed

[@jodyhankey8721]

I enjoyed this but the stimmer stammering is annoying. Spit it out dude

[@frisbeeshawn5356]

The video of him being at the kennel when he lied is what did him in .. No one else was in property dogs didnt bark at no one else. Even Alex said that when asked. I call BS. Sore losers . Good ol boy club membership ran out .. .

[@Sunshine_Suzie_Q]

It is very troubling to me that the defense felt the need to seek out jurors by knocking on doors. Very disturbing and questionable in my opinion. What they’re saying doesn’t come across as credible but for someone that just hears things every once in a while may be inclined to believe them. I’ve not read anything in the book that makes me question Ms Becky. There was no “book deal” as the defense stated. It’s self published. She said she respected the Murdaugh family. She’d worked with them for years. I can’t imagine how she is feeling right now. Prayers are going up for her.

[@ricks2123]

The clerk of the court put a person in prison with her mouth for the rest of his life how many other jurors has she influence over the clerk of the court tour they're not little county

[@coletrain3178]

Judge Newman just retired so he won't retry. He could be a witness though, nothing says he can't. Imagine having to go through all that again! Man, I hope not. What a waste of money. Side bar. . I hate that woman's butt-ugly shoes.

[@pamelasinclair-karney8856]

Lol 😅😅😅😅

[@bettycattk5298]

I too kept looking at her shoes because she keeps looking down at them. They are so unflattering because they accent her bunions.

[@Tracey777]

You all watched the trial. I don't think it would matter. The evidence made him quilty. Period.

[@TheLakingc]

What do other jurors say? This is too bizarre! I just cannot believe it. It seems like Murdaugh got to those accusing jurors.

[@VintageReplay]

Clerk knows the law and the risk of breaking it. Follow the money meaning the money that AM stole and who that it was stolen from. The state smells like a South Carolina fish boat.

[@bellpeppergreen8602]

Not buying this bs from poot griffin not buying it murdaugh paid for statement follows the money

[@PureMischiefAliCarter]

To me. My instinct is saying the clerk was a plant, working for alexs team they look guilty as sin, and they are and were not phased enough after verdict

[@renaelimburg2510]

do not worry, it is not true!!!

[@truecrime_and_everything_else]

Get to the point... so frustrating listening to some of this...

[@MD11339]

In regards to the foreperson of the jurors was made by Judge Newman. My recollection was Judge Newman stated on camera that he chooses the the foreperson in his trials. I do not see a issue with this at all. Most judges do have their own sets of criteria that are upheld in the trials the judge oversees.

[@helenfisler-parker9005]

Just more Murdaugh BS.

[@dalily9607]

These defense lawyers are a joke , they twist anything to make headlines. Thank you for the breakdown on what all this means. Murderer shouldn't have so many rights, the victims should.

[@moonchildpink5525]

In Florida, the Addendum Bechy sent to Fox Nation & asking for an exchange for her likeness on the Courthouse Stationary after contract was already signed would have her in jail. Even accepting a hotel night has put "State Actors" in jail.

[@christieprince6991]

In addition the Motivation may also be Hill didn't Like Alec and was happy to have him "hanged "

[@clwmentsvale]

How is Alec going to pay for a second trial?

[@mariapilarme]

Maybe they found the missing money!

[@Brockovich23]

Now the off shore accounts come cashing in but you need a whole new team of lawyers AM...just saying.

[@lisalisa20907]

Just as an “aside”….the red headed host dominates too much of the conversation in that he seems to talk more than others and more important he is rambling and hard to listen to due to his MANY asides.

[@bellpeppergreen8602]

Excellent podcast

[@MelVonMonkers]

NOT a Problem that facebook post was deleted prior , Because anyone on FB could have shared or saved the post. So the post would still be visible on other people's facebook pages regardless of the writer of the post deleting it. Can't believe no one brought that up. This whole thing sounds fishy to me. I read her book and maybe it was ill timed but I don't see her as being a nefarious bad actor. Dick and Jim however are another story altogether.

[@Rita-yi4vv]

There are have been a lot of people in those Murdaugh forums on Facebook claiming to be friends with so-and-so and family of so-and-so.. and just kind of inserting themselves into the middle of all this and feeding off the drama of the trial. I have a feeling someone was impersonating Mr Stone.. just because Becky Hill saw that and reported it doesn't mean that she intentionally misled the court about that because she may have thought it was real. But perhaps they should have done a bit more due diligence and determining whether it was real or not. Further, can we get meta to to pull his history, not just providing it for himself (of which you can delete or even archive your entire account)? Regardless it definitely looks like Alex is going to get a new trial.

[@anjanean]

We're you not listening...THEY DID..THEY PULLED HIS ENTIRE FACEBOOK and came back...NOTHING was found! FBI did not find nothing

[@chicosmummy]

It wasn't her job to do due diligence. She should have brought it to the judge and let him investigate. The judge even said he wasn't happy the clerk interrogated a juror.

[@Rita-yi4vv]

​@@chicosmummyI agree.. She's definitely appears to have gotten out of her lane and acted inappropriately and potentially even criminally.

[@ratatouillesabatejr]

Becky has stepped in it.

[@eileendriscoll4002]

It will be interesting to see what her defense says!

[@jeffbrunke9904]

In my opinion, one of 2 things happened. Miss Becky is either guilty of what she's being accused of or the defense found the weakest links in the jury and paid them to sign affidavits.

[@StellaDog-ul8rr]

I think that that was a clear shut case. I think he paid too much with these two defense attorney any other attorney as well they were out rent completely and I think they’re upset that they had no ground about it. Did he finish team was in barest there they’re open statements with the week in the closing was even worse then you had griffins standing up trying to see if he can get the judge to get a retrial and mumble jumble in words out to meet at told me that he knew he lost a case, he was very boring and dry and defeated and that’s what it is you all are defeated in your upset. He had a fair trial and won’t be sad. I’m quite sure they gave him a better break. Then he gave media of the people, his family prosecuted and put the third where is sunglasses cause they’re in Bears that they got whooped in the quart room badly

[@mcmulcat]

Huh? Unintelligible.

[@Tracey777]

@StellaDog-ul8rr Did you really spell "court" as "quart"? And your entire post has no punctuation except 3 .'s. It makes absolutely zero sense reading it. I'm sorry. I don't mean to sound rude. But maybe use talk to text if you want to comment and all you have to do is read a sentence and say period at the end of each of each statement you make. At least that way, someone can understand it.🤷‍♀️

[@RossBetsy]

Duh the tables were tilted…

[@mariapilarme]

I don’t believe it for a minute.

[@trigremlin]

You need a defense lawyer on this panel to shake you back to your senses. She’s going to jail for this.

[@Brockovich23]

I can agree that writing a book so quickly is probably in poor taste but it doesn't mean she is guilty of these accusations. AM could very well just become incredibly creative from within his new concrete office to find new ways to tamper with the jury. This isn't his first rodeo. Also, please consider all the money he stole from innocent clients that was never tracked down. In my opinion its plausible offshore accounts were cashed in to pay the three jurors to vouch for this accusation. It's a crazy theory but not one that's farfetched AM wouldn't try. A smear campaign is not below what AM could try to pull off! Look at all of his other shenanigans! These accusations create doubt on both sides, exactly what AM wants to happen so he can get another trial. It's a hail Mary attempt in my opinion.

[@vucat]

Judge Newman chose the foreperson. This was discussed on another podcast that I also watch where an attorney who has practiced before the judge multiple times said it is a process that he always follows. I think the attorney said that the judge always picks the person who sits in the seat that the person he chose is in. I do not remember the attorney at the moment, but I remember that comment because it was so unusual to me regarding how a jury foreperson would be selected.

[@IzzyMariel]

This is true. I've watched 4 Newman trials and he always selects the foreperson.

[@mariaskinnider115]

This is so set up. The retrial has to be out of state. The clerk was always going to throw the trial

[@moonchildpink5525]

Would love to hear about Cory Flemming.

[@RossBetsy]

Love this lawyer!!!