Murder Mayhem | S04 E17 | Law & Order

[@Ansible1000]

This was one of the saddest cases in one of the best episodes. Scott deserved so much better. Also, pay your parking tickets!

[@jujujupiter]

Thanks for the tacit recommendation!

[@marvinrichardduran8961]

Scott Hexter has sadly died from The Blacked Ice Accident!

[@AnvilMAn603]

thats how they got son of sam

[@RobertDeLuca-b8t]

Yeah he looked like a mommas boy werido

[@gavindecontie8380]

Your mom chest hair

[@davidleedutton]

This is my favorite episode of the original series. Too many cases all at once. The cops screw up. There's no justice, no closure, no relief. Just like real life.

[@johnm6642]

And just like in real life, not held accountable for their complicity in his murder.

[@fnusecurity5112]

Like where was Grandma when he was arrested? Like where was the lineup for the Girl and Grandma. Like yes that is him or nope I don't see him.

[@HajimeNoJMo]

There was closure five years later in a crossover with SVU

[@Bootmahoy88]

All he had to do was tell the truth. But big bad Dead daddy apparently still called the shots. Wow!

[@nealsizemore7800]

😊

[@catherinep2034]

This is where a half way prison should be used for people who are on trial. They shouldn't be put in with people who are convicted criminals, that are serving life sentences. Or at least separated. Being innocent, but being treated like you are guilty, when it's meant to be innocent until proven guilty. Very scary.

[@toomanyaccounts]

LOL! the guy was guilty. guilty of being stupid. he paid the price.

[@otaviofrnazario]

they mix convicted with non convicted over there? in my country, at least in the bigger cities, there are separate facilities for each group

[@toomanyaccounts]

@@otaviofrnazario new york city is one of the largest cities in the world. Rikers is one of the largest transport complexes in the world. Assaults and murder of uniformed guards and medical staff are incredibly common. Due to democrat catch and release policies criminals are not put away and consider prison a bed and breakfast or even a resort accommodation.

[@catherinep2034]

@@otaviofrnazario I'm not American, but with all the TV shows & movies I've watched they appear to be all together, & haven't heard anyone say it's wrong.

[@adamplace1414]

Rikers' Island is a *jail* - where people who get arrested are held for arraignment, or for people who get convicted of crimes whose sentence is 1 year or less. A *prison* (like Attica, which they sometimes mention on this show) is where people are put after they're convicted for crimes where their sentence is longer than a year. So yes, in theory they are exactly segregated like you wanted. This is also pretty standard in the US generally. However, Rikers also houses prisoners who have long sentences but are being transferred, or who are awaiting a court appearance in the city. So there can be some overlap with people convicted of the worst crimes. Plus, someone charged with murder - but not convicted yet - would be there, because they're still considered "innocent" under the law. Rikers is also very rough as jails go. In theory they keep a tighter watch on high-risk inmates, but in practice not so much.

[@delmicortave]

Thank God the mom knew about his relationship if not they may never found they have the wrong person still it was too late if only the lawyer or the police knew he will still be alive, this is such a sad ending and I hate that they tried to plead guilty when they didn't have enough evidence since anyone said he did it nor the girl or the old lady

[@MuzzyBarker]

Except it made no difference

[@stupidminotaur9735]

They released a 2 parter for this in season 1 of l&OSVU where they catch the guy.

[@veronicam.9396]

He chose to go to jail, he just had to say where he was, if he was worried about his mom, the police were not going to tell her, besides, she already knew.

[@obliviouz]

**He** knew of his relationship and his alibi; don't keep that to yourself when you're a suspect in a murder. "Why can't you just believe me..." - yeah that's not how a murder investigation works.

[@gezenews]

@@veronicam.9396 You don't need an alibi to maintain your privacy. The police need to do a better job. This episode was about a shitty city police department that gets by on favors and stupid voters, not competence. they fucking killed that guy.

[@Dominus42]

I'm surprised a few heads didn't roll in the department for this. The police department and DA office would probably be vulnerable to lawsuits from Scott's mom. And judging by how much she cared for him, I wouldn't put it past her to do everything in her power to see the head of everyone involved with her son's death roll from the prisoner who shanked him to all the officers of the law who put him in a position to be shanked.

[@nsahandler]

>heads didn't roll for this Qualified Immunity

[@biruss]

No immunity hear

[@brendanzhang7488]

and also their investigation would turn up nothing, the evidence would match the stories of the cops and they did everything by the book,

[@tomwanek673]

I think it's cute that you believe there's such a thing as accountability for *any* law enforcement organization, far less the NYPD.

[@TheMilitantHorse]

If this story had taken place in 2023, there would be some form of lawsuit. This was 1994.

[@WarGrowlmon18]

They later wrapped up the unsolved case involving the murders that Scott Hexter was believed to have committed six years later in a crossover with SVU.

[@hindenburg2006]

Was it the one with the "Buddy Holly glasses"? Because that's all I could think of each time they said "thick black glasses"...

[@shockmandan]

It was Arthur Pruitt

[@allanfifield8256]

The Bag Lady is Great!

[@TheBatugan77]

Looks like Detective Eames' (Criminal Intent) mother or grandma.

[@niabelizaire3596]

RIP Jerry Orbach 💔🙏🏾🪦🥀🕊️

[@Backroad_Junkie]

Best candlestick ever...

[@josephhicks6445]

Some people have the opinion that Scott has only himself to blame. I do not dispute the fact that Scott could have saved himself. I want to point out that A. Scott is under no legal obligation to provide the authorities with his whereabouts B. Scotts' refusal to cooperate does not change the fact that the authorities botched their investigation. C. The authorities choose to proceed with the prosecution of Scott. Despite the fact that one witness did not identify him as the killer. The other could not be located (this witness was the old woman who did not recognize Scott). The DA office wanted to offer a deal even after doubt was raised about Scott guilt.

[@toomanyaccounts]

they didn't botch it. he fit all the eyewitness, timeline and circumstantial evidence. not one but multiple incidents he was tied to

[@jamesdc9595]

Of course they wanted a deal, cops and DAs care about conviction rates, not actually solving crime

[@toomanyaccounts]

@@jamesdc9595 if that true than we would have a 99% conviction rate based on confessions with full sentences applied like Japan. Japanese prisons like to use the inmates as slave labor in various tasks say a fishing boat and if the boat sinks well who cares if the prisoners were shackled to their work stations

[@jam8539]

he had a corrobated alibi that he could have used but didn't. he was confrontational and evasive. He lied about a hit and run. It is not the prosecutions duty to defend someone accused of a crime, its your defence lawyer and yourself to defend you, that how the law and the court works, you have the right to a lawyer, you have the right to defend yourself in court if you fail to do that then its your fault you get convicted.

[@josephhicks6445]

@@jam8539 So if I understand your argument correctly you are claiming that if a person is wrongfully convicted they have no one to blame but themselves

[@waynewright5023]

🙄🙄.. The shaky ID alone would have had this tossed, and the way that Hexter was basically railroaded into a wrongful incarceration (resulting in his needless death) *SHOULD HAVE* resulted in a massive lawsuit. Showing Hexter's face, and **ONLY** his face, to a potential witness is against **ALL** police procedure!!! 😒😒 This was definitely a blatant case of guilty until proven innocent. I mean even after their investigation revealed another vehicle **exactly like his** with very similar plates. *THAT* right there should have made the D.A.'s office AND the investigators go "Maybe we're wrong about this one.."

[@ericomartins9794]

Realistically, the cops have their heads too far up their own asses to even consider that they are incompetent assholes.

[@BethHarmon-yh8ms]

Ordinary, I Iike Briscoe and Logan, but I didn't like how they were determined to believe that Hexter was their guy even after doubt was raised he was the killer. Schiff wasn't any better, either. I'm aware that Hexter didn't help his case by not providing an alibi, but back then it was still a stigma to come out of the closet. Even with the alibi, the police still believed they had their man. It was only when the homeless lady told them that Hexter was too young to fit the description that they realized they had the wrong guy. But unfortunately, for Hexter it was too little, too late. Briscoe and Logan did deserve to miss out on the ball game they were so anxious to get to throughout the episode.

[@Jack_Ss]

That was already just a formality. They were already in the process of trying to get him out because they were finally able to get his alibi. It’s awful what happened but because he wouldn’t tell them his whereabouts there was just no way they could’ve done anything else. He was picked out of a lineup and had no alibi.

[@MondoBeno]

If I didn't know that Jerry Orbach was dead, and didn't notice the lack of cell phones, I would not have known that this episode is over 20 years old. Styles don't seem as radically different from 1996-present the way they did from 1986-present.

[@tamekkaknuth9612]

I didn't know this episodes that late

[@allanfifield8256]

This episode - Why the early L & O was so good.

[@nicholasmaude6906]

What was disgusting about this episode is that the guy in prison was so paranoid about being revealed as a homosexual he ended up being shanked, why that happened to him pissed me off.

[@TheBatugan77]

We're supposed to GiveAShit? Ooooh, he's pissed off. Ooooh.

[@Taxationisstealing]

These old seasons need to be available for streaming!

[@nicholasmaude6906]

Watching this clip makes me miss Briscoe and Logan, IMO they were the best cop duo on the show.

[@sebastianmichaelis497]

Absolutely not. It was Brisco and Green

[@nicholasmaude6906]

@@sebastianmichaelis497 Brisco and Green were the second best cop duo on L&O. Now when they were both still alive I'd like to have seen an L&O/SVU multi-episode crossover where we see Briscoe and Much paired up.

[@sebastianmichaelis497]

@nicholasmaude6906 Man you smoking crackers. Brisco and Greene was one of Law and Orders longest lasting team because of the high ratings. Think it was a coincidence?

[@Qazwsxedc165]

If you don't know, they ended up catching the real killer in season one of SVU.

[@Sawdoffzombie]

Whoa thank you I'm watching through L&O right now and some of these episodes have me wondering about outcomes, especially since they started doing crossovers later on. On season 13 so far, then it'll be SVU next.

[@theloremaestro5498]

Which episode out of curiosity?

[@Qazwsxedc165]

@@theloremaestro5498 L&O SVU Season 1 Episode 15 "Entitled"

[@erikdraven1731]

I'll definitely check that out as well. I just finished season 14. (skipping the Dianne Wiest seasons... something about her just annoys the f*ck out of me)

[@lovelyoneist]

Oooh it was the rich heiress wasn't it?

[@DanielRojas-jh6ld]

Zelda " you got those yearnings" 😆 🤣

[@rsybing]

A non Law & Order kind of episode that you love to see the Law & Order characters in. Plus Robin Tunney, so you can't beat that.

[@Bleocrown]

"I got a couple of suits getting pissy out here" always makes me chuckle

[@sistakia33]

As a society we've normalized the way we mistreat prisoners. We take their names away and reduce them to numbers. We then proceed to treat them worse than prisoners of war. And when someone steps up and says, "Prisoners deserve better!" someone always dismisses the mistreatment by yelling back, "They shouldn't have broken the law!" But the question I always want someone to answer is, "But what if the person was innocent? Everyday there are organizations getting people out of jails and prisons that never should have been there in the first place! So how can we justify mistreating people just because they're behind bars?

[@TheBatugan77]

Oh, please.

[@FeedingFrenzy91]

I really don't like that when it came to arresting circumstantial evidence was enough but when it comes to letting them go they seem to have a stronger threshold. God bless everyone.

[@comicsans3421]

thing is. when you are gonna release someone you suspected of murder. you need at least SOMETHING that points to them being somewhere else at the time. the only evidence to him being innocent was evidence he refused to give them and kept lying to them. if he had told the truth he would have been out after their first talk and they would have already been searching for the guy who WAS responsible. in a way he had only himself to blame

[@FeedingFrenzy91]

@@comicsans3421 That's not my point though ( I see yours and your are right). It's not just this case. What I mean is that when they arrest many times they don't even have enough for trial, they arrest based on circumstantial evidence but when they are ready to release they basically need to make sure they are wrong. Even in certain cases where they don't have a motive and they have a weak case they'll arrest but when it comes time to release they gotta know. To bring things home here (sorry for the length of this comment). I'm just saying the episode "We like Mike" Season 7 ep 20 really shows how arresting a person can affect their life and the lawyers just be like (well our bad) and still expect him to help them. It's just one of those things like the lawyers don't take into consideration sometimes the lives of the people involved. God bless you.

[@hunterlee4412]

While I agree that the evidence was circumstantial, if he could have provided an alibi, as long as someone else could have corroborated the alibi of him being somewhere else, he wouldn't have been arraigned. While it's not his fault that the evidence appeared to that point that he was guilty, it is his responsibility to clear his own name. This says more about how Americans viewed/view homosexuality and how someone should be ashamed and hide who they are rather than tell the truth.

[@FeedingFrenzy91]

@@hunterlee4412 I understand your point. I'm not actually saying that he wasn't responsible. I'm simply pointing out that even when it looked like it wasn't him they had to make sure before letting him go. However, when it comes to arresting they don't have to make sure they just have to have a hunch and little evidence. I used Season 7 ep 20. Another episode I believe is the Finale for season 7 where they have almost no evidence on the guy and then arrest and try him anyway. They then only let him go after it becomes obvious it was someone else. God bless you.

[@FeedingFrenzy91]

@@hunterlee4412 You are right that if he told the truth he wouldn't have been in jail in the first place.

[@eb5849]

Poor Scottie 😭

[@Archerfan101]

The truth would have set him free. The guy wouldn't even tell HIS OWN LAWYER. So he very much chose to be in that situation. His privacy or justice; it should have been clear that he could not have both at that moment.

[@KarunanithiNRamachandran]

I always thought they had separate holding cells for those on trial , innocent till proven guilty , or doesn't it apply anymore .

[@blackdandelion5549]

No, It doesn't work that way as this was not someone who was awaiting being arraigned on his charges or something extremely short term. He had been charged and while the prison or most prisons do have different areas for people who have been convicted of more dangerous crimes or have been shown to be problematic the person awaiting their trial, which can take easily over a year or more, can be a general population with people who did lesser crimes and are only in for a few months or others who are awaiting trials, but have a history of criminal behaviors. It's impossible to sort everyone and someone who may be absolutely guilty of another crime and looking at life would have no reason to not take out another person while they are already there for a multitude of reason from joining a gan to stay alive on the inside or simply because they know/believe their life is over or they are just a criminal and not good person. If people believed he was actually a murderer they could have done it to take out another "murder" and prove their gusto. The list of reasons is endless and their is simply no way to screen everyone, some people who have already done their time for a previous time and may return are considered to have done that time and have a "clean slate", some people may be guilty and want to fit in or they may simply want to fit into a gang or other group. You never really know. No separate holding cells I have ever been aware of unless he was well known such as the case was all over TV, a public figure, had threats made towards him and then they put him in isolation, not the other prisoners.

[@GosieKin]

Was that... Lisbon???

[@elchacal2713]

Yess Lisbon indeed

[@madunwagbo4769]

Continued and concluded in Season 1 of SVU and Season 11 (Entitled Parts 1 & 2)

[@Prateek500000]

Was it the guy with the buddy holly glasses?

[@madunwagbo4769]

Yep

[@glenbateman5960]

The actor playing the girl that was in the car - is that Robin Tunney?

[@AndyBluebear-fi9om]

Some interesting info on this episode from one of the L&O wiki pages: "According to Law & Order: The Unofficial Companion, the episode was so heavily focused on Briscoe and Logan so as to give Michael Moriarty a rest after suffering a manic episode during the shooting of Breeder, during which his wife was summoned to bring him to a doctor. Stone only appears in two brief scenes here. Moriarty, however, did not see this as an effort to help his mental health and insisted the producers cut his scenes to force him off the show after he accused Attorney General Janet Reno of trying to censor the show and end his career."

[@Midnight_Cereal-x9u]

Scotty resurrected and become a cold contract Killer later LOL

[@TheApollotd]

This woman should lead a police team with a fake psychic in it...

[@dreb1846]

And they should call it the "Mentalist".

[@red_five3325]

Who are we talking about? Is Kirsten Nelson, the actress who plays Karen Vick in "Psych," in this episode?

[@theoriginalstulty]

@@red_five3325 no, the woman who witnessed the murder played Lisbon in the show the Mentalist. One of the main characters in the Mentalist is a fake psychic :)

[@MrBmick79]

Vick is a fox!@@red_five3325

[@89five3five]

In the real world, the city, cops, prosecutors would all be named in a massive lawsuit

[@icu8128]

Can't wait to see the results of that civil lawsuit.

[@jpprophete1988]

If only all the seasons of L&O were available on peacock.😔

[@adrianharris1921]

Unfortunately we are still unable

[@linrue8515]

no clue why either. You can't watch them anywhere else, and Peacock owns the rights to them.

[@rachelgarber1423]

If they did that people wouldn’t subscribe to Peacock. These little excerpts are an enticement to subscribe

[@MarionGKeller]

You can tell how long ago this was made -- there's a light-hearted reference to someone driving under the influence. (One of the best L&O episodes, to be clear. I love Zelda.)

[@ItsSkeletor]

This would’ve resulted in a giant lawsuit if it were realistic. And the NYPD definitely would’ve lost.

[@jaimeduncan6167]

no, it does not work like that. They will crush his character, it was not in 2023 so it will be easy to do. Then he did not present his alibi etc. I am against violent protests, but remember that police were getting away with the murder of African Americans all the time until the protestors touch the capital. Now they get fired all the time, and even go to jail. Seeing the police so concerned about taking someone that was not 100% cooperative will be ludicrous if the reality was not so sad.

[@ItsSkeletor]

@@veedocapone Because Law & Order is one of the best shows ever that at depicting the daily happenings of crime in NYC, with a lot of the episodes based on real cases. Just pointing it out because I don’t think there was a connecting episode to this one that concluded how that affected the department, like quite a few episodes had.

[@Xyanthium3889]

​@ItsSkeletor they wouldn't have lost if he told the truth from the start he would have been fine he killed himself

[@ItsSkeletor]

@@Xyanthium3889 “You have a right to remain silent, anything you say can and will be held against you in a court of law.” It doesn’t matter wether you tell the truth or not, you only tell your lawyer.

[@gorgan4714]

​@@ItsSkeletorand by doing so with the circumstantial evidence pointing to him he would still be in jail. If you won't prove your innocence until trial then you will have to accept if you don't make bail you will be in jail until the trial in concluded.

[@citythink]

feels like the jail in my Ontario City where people waiting trial are held with people serving sentences. No shortage of sad endings to stories there.

[@mattmurry8481]

This going to be on Peacock soon?!? I’m over you advertising the best stuff only to push the mediocre years. The fans deserve better!!

[@in_vino_veritas7938]

I wish we could stream it for free

[@Sawdoffzombie]

I think you'll be waiting a long time. I think the earlier seasons have been locked for so long is because of licensing stuff that won't get sorted anytime soon.

[@mattmurry8481]

@@Sawdoffzombie Probably. It’s annoying they post these parts of the episode to advertise a streaming service when the content used is not available on that streaming service. There should be a law against streaming services advertising using content they don’t have.

[@travisshiflett6822]

This chould be anyone, wrong place wrong time ...anyone can say oh it was this man and you get arrested...if I was has mom sue them

[@woodwyrm]

"Nun ya business!" 🤣🤣🤣

[@jodie4609]

@ 1:40 I had to stop and acknowledge this actress from awakenings .what a marvelous actress

[@Tulane_Gargoyle]

If a person is very lucky, one day he or she will meet a version of Zelda.

[@mikbt2000]

I totally agree.

[@Backroad_Junkie]

This won't end well...

[@andrewenserro3185]

Are the detectives going to be in so much trouble for someone innocent in prison getting killed?

[@ayameisastar]

They have enough paperwork to show that they gave him every out and that they investigated and moved to get him out in a timely manner once they knew he was innocent. He had many chances with plea deals, a chance to give a truthful alibi. The mother has a strong case if she wants to sue the state but I don’t see negligence on the part of the cops or the DA’s office

[@asecretone]

There'll be an investigation but if there's no impropriety they'll be fine.

[@ChrisCosat]

You're optimistic that a LEO would ever get in trouble and have consequences!

[@emilyrobinson6080]

A cop could gun down a kid in broad daylight while filming it and not see a single day of prison. Theres enough qualified immunity there that everything from accidents to all but the most absolute brain dead of deliberate crimes can be weaseled out of.

[@MuzzyBarker]

You must not be American.

[@withlove2963]

Ah! Robin Tinney looks so young!

[@bensumw]

She looked familiar and recognised her from The Mentalist as Teresa Lisbon

[@varianschirmer9375]

Years before her 1 season as Lincoln Burrows lawyer in Prison Break.

[@DaneOrschlovsky]

Just goes to show you: Always take care of your parking tickets, and your mom doesn't care if you're gay. Just be honest and you'll avoid Scott's fate. If we're taking the allegory literally.

[@MrBmick79]

she probably knew before he did

[@marianaguardiaa.k.amariana4780]

A really hardest case

[@wanderingyoutube]

The first actress was Robin Tunney later to be on the Mentalist

[@robertplatt1693]

The bookstore - Murder Ink. They had great stuff and counter people who gave great recommendations.

[@fuchsraeude1294]

What a fool! Going to jail instead of coming out and providing an alibi? I prefer guys myself and I know those were the 90s, but that's totally on Scott.

[@nothobbesmufc949]

police didn't have much of anything on him though. he was a short guy with glasses. No witness lineup, no real evidence of anything, just charge him? wasn't good police work.

[@toomanyaccounts]

@@nothobbesmufc949 wrong plenty of circumstantial evidence

[@ameliarose47]

The cops botched it and it's not necessarily Scotts fault, but he absolutely could've gotten out of it. It would probably be easier the be a known gay man in the world than a known gay man in jail.

[@umungus518]

​@@toomanyaccountsname the circumstantial evidence please. The old lady said it wasnt him, the other witness said it wasn't him, the plate lined up with his car which was spotted 15 minutes away. Try again authoritarian.

[@toomanyaccounts]

@@umungus518the old lady who disappeared? the other witness admits to only seeing the glasses. watch the episode it outlines the evidence. all he had to do was not lie

[@nickyd.4695]

Big time wrongful death law suit.

[@YouTubeallowedmynametobestolen]

"Why can't you just believe me?" Ummmmm, ...

[@stupidminotaur9735]

Zodiac killer this is based off, Funny thing is it came out after this episode aired is 1 of the police officers wrote the wrong car type the zodiac was seen in, by 1 of the survivors it was a chevy 4 door, cop wrote wrong car type.

[@grizzly6018]

What did we learn kids? Dont lie to cops, it might just save your life

[@sanderbos]

3:20 So number 2 did it after all?

[@WarGrowlmon18]

No.

[@themermaidstale5008]

If he’d given Briscoe and Logan his alibi, the police would have looked for the real killer.

[@RLucas3000]

People usually say ”don’t talk to the police” but here he died because he didn’t tell the truth to the police. He didn’t even tell his defense attorney.

[@reginaldshort8486]

I watched the whole clip waiting to see a smiley face drawn in blood.

[@Ualari]

😂😂😂😂

[@herbertadams8433]

Lisbon looks so young!

[@MiniM69]

Imagine that cops to this all the time - they are poorly trained and managed. Weep for the real Scotts lost to police incompetence and ignorance.

[@TheBatugan77]

You wanna make an omelette, you gotta crack some eggs. BACK THE BLUE! 💪🤠👍

[@tbam73]

@@TheBatugan77 wow, fortune cookie?

[@KatriceMetaluna]

@@TheBatugan77 So it's OK if the law kills a few innocent people as long as the guilty are all caught and punished. Might as well just shoot everyone since we're all probably guilty of something. Zero population means zero crime, after all.

[@WadeAlma]

If he told the truth he would of been released the first day.

[@blackdandelion5549]

There is a local criminal lawyer where I live who says that he is a firm believer that PD would be so much better with a 4 year college education, including any education into psychology as they deal with many people from mental illness to DV, and that it would help them understand the law better as the PD break it all of the time and escalate issues or do not really follow protocols. He loves body and dash cams because PD do make some fairly significant mistakes. He does appreciate what they do and is a strong advocate for them, but believes they do not have the education in order to do the job correctly when it's going to be scrutinized by lawyers in a court of law.

[@TheBatugan77]

It's the Mentalist babe!

[@latalik2518]

The girl from the craft, the quiet woman from To Wong Fu....this is an episode lol

[@whywelovefilm7079]

*“…and he kills people for relaxation? Don’t waste my time counselor, remanded without bail.”* As the saying goes, Innocent until proven guilty…….Unless you’re trying to get bail. In that case you’re already considered guilty and will be denied.

[@Shonte-i8v]

Hey...It's Ray Finkles mom..😂😂😂😂

[@iomis2001]

Why don't these people ever ask for lawyers? It's literally the first thing you should do if you are in an interrogation. These detectives bully people into saying things. None of any of this would hold up in court. Even the judge was way out of line saying He kills people for relaxation. They literally bullied and badgered him the whole time. Any good lawyer would get him off on that alone.

[@MMAavatar123]

If the guy just told the truth, it would've saved him.

[@pelu101]

It's not that simple, at that time it was even harder for anyone to admit that they're gay. His reasons for not revealing himself went even much deeper than that, he was scared of his father even in death. Also they couldn't find the bag lady, otherwise the whole thing would've never happened.

[@ronryan7398]

Just another example of the American penal system. You treat people like animals, you get a jungle.

[@TheBatugan77]

You know any place better? As good?

[@EricLing64]

@@TheBatugan77 There are European countries that rehabilitate criminals, at least non-murderers I think. That probably helps a fair bit. Not sure it would work in America anyways, even with rehabilitation if they can't get hired and stuff they'll still be stuck with crime as the only means of getting by. Bit of a stupid circle some people are stuck in with blame to go all around.

[@jdrancho1864]

There is an interesting 'Tatort' episode that deals with a German employee of a multi-national corporation who gets sent to a Florida prison on a corruption/ bribery charge after he gets off the plane in Miami. While the hook is the investigation of the murder of his boss, the focus is his reintegration into a society where his experience in a US prison is extremely detrimental to his functioning as a contributing member.

[@brianellinger6622]

sounds like a very eventful weekend

[@S1M0N3-AI]

So closeted he died for it. What a fool.

[@delorean36]

Ray Finkels mother.

[@MrSirwolf2001]

Laces out

[@1972glm]

Thank you, I was just about to look it up. I could hear her offering cookies but couldn't remember the context

[@willthor6639]

einhorn is finkel finkel is einhorn

[@jamesfracasse8178]

Who?

[@markintexas3030]

@@jamesfracasse8178 Ace Ventura: Pet Detective

[@chaisepomme4070]

Sad and brutal.

[@Comicsluvr]

Ouch. My first time seeing this one.

[@joshuaengleman1131]

# 192!!!! WHOOOOOOOO..... DOGGY!!! 🤘🤘🤘

[@robertsteinbuch1199]

Next time. Give up your bologna sandwich !😊

[@TheBatugan77]

He was going to get the whole salami regardless.

[@biruss]

6:06 they should have let him out pronto. They knew he had an inferred alibi.

[@jamesodell4249]

Lady lawyer is Jill henasey from crossing jordon.

[@CandiceGoddard]

I remember this episode.

[@davab.]

His lawyer is incompetent. how does your client go to prison with no evidence? 😐

[@toomanyaccounts]

there was evidence

[@davab.]

@@toomanyaccounts there wasn't any sufficient evidence for an address. He didn't get picked out the line up. His gun didn't match the ballistics. His DNA wasn't found on the scene . And you can't lock up people because they won't give you an alibi.

[@TheMartuksxxxx]

Circumstancial at best

[@toomanyaccounts]

@@TheMartuksxxxx which is more then enough when a credible alibi is not offered

[@TheMartuksxxxx]

@@toomanyaccounts most people dont have alibi. Its not a default state

[@roryqpotter8242]

The editing in this one is weird. Did you hire a new editor to put together the clips?

[@andreachilton6037]

Is the female victim Robin Tunney??

[@alexhughes715]

whats great is they never really got the guy, svu had a follow up episode years later where he resurfaced

[@rizqeenurhani3683]

wouldn't the cops and the da who put him in rikers on hold be liable for manslaughter? cause didn't they confict someone of manslaughter for making a false statement and putting a man in jail?

[@shawncarlen9009]

Ray Finkle’s mom!!!

[@carwashslayer4235]

4:20

[@Durhandoni80]

These looks at 9:20....

[@lYBRA_GMD]

Agent Lisbon??

[@TheBatugan77]

Yes indeed!

[@joelellis7035]

Remind me never to eat Bologna in prison!

[@nextbarker2702]

Why did Michael moriatrity leave the show after 4yrs?

[@SkyeRwby]

Arthur Mcknight is that you?!?!

[@themachoechidnaugandarandy7583]

I can't friggin find this and the dvds dont friggin work!!! Can somebody spoil me what happens??? Do they find the real killer? What happens to the team for having an innocent man killed?

[@chrischin_94]

Ends with a crossover episode with season 1 of SVU. And I doubt it, they didn't do anything wrong

[@nycdweller]

I loved Zelda!!

[@Kruppt808]

Zelda said the guy was way older, the girl in the car doesn't know an older guy for a younger one? Bad Detective work?

[@slowazzd2165]

The entire concept of being able to take away someone's freedom and potentially their life based on arbitrary laws some random people decided we should all have to live by forever ago is so ridiculous I'll never get over it

[@TheBatugan77]

Get under it.

[@TheBatugan77]

Shanks a lot!

[@ramazriel]

I'm trying real hard to feel bad for Scotty, but can't seem to. He made it real hard for himself and he paid the price. He brought this on himself. All he had to do was give them an alibi and he could go home. He's not the first guy to have a liaison with another man. I get he was embarrassed, but if someone accused me of murder, I'd be singing like a canary.

[@kartikprasad4359]

Zelda, the librarian from Ghostbusters.

[@TheBatugan77]

Give me that baloney!

[@douglasnyenke2505]

Sad bro so sad 😞

[@michaeldowson6988]

The least secure place to be is in prison.

[@allistairlethbridge-stewar163]

If you’re mad at the Mishandling of this case, then the main message of the episode worked.

[@markmnndoga4248]

George Santos and his lies, you know what I mean.

[@toomanyaccounts]

lied far less then any democrat

[@arielg7000]

😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢