Plot Twist | S04 E01 | Law & Order

[@tylernorwood5602]

Kudos to the kid for not backing down from the defense attorney.

[@soren3569]

The actor playing him does a pretty solid performance for a kid. Had to look him up, turns out I recognized him from the Santa Clause franchise.

[@memawknowsbest4978]

​@@soren3569He was also on that show, Numbers.

[@koppsr]

@soren3569 He also played Mr Universe in the Firefly Movie. In my opinion he's a sadly underappreciated and under cast actor and very talented.

[@prettyteacher6417]

He was also Wednesday Addams bf in Addams Family Values.

[@TheSchaef47]

He was thinking of buying a Tercel

[@yequi5898]

" I shot an animal, call a vet" best line

[@teodorusdikypermadi]

No freakin way

[@Anon26535]

Sounds like something Frank Castle would say.

[@jdrancho1864]

Came out of left field. Loved it.

[@Vic82toire]

They had the best one-liners.

[@thatwasfunnyhuh]

Four months later after this comment. This line is eternal!

[@bradleybrown8399]

"I put him in therapy, you put him in a murder trial" Great comeback.

[@Gloria-ro4vn]

Not really, Dad put him a murder trial because Mom put him in therapy with a PEDOPHILE.

[@swordwithnoname]

"you put him face to face with the pedofile who raped him not even half a decade ago" should have been the response, kinda psycho-behaviour from the mom there honestly.

[@ChickyParm1972]

Lennie and Mike were awesome Detective Partners!! Shooter: “I shot an animal, call the vet.” is among the MANY great one liners in this episode! I’m proud to be an original L&O MEGA FAN ❤❤❤

[@ethelhoose1196]

They were my favorite on this show

[@FrankskinOrweed-ep4ij]

Me. Big

[@WarGrowlmon18]

Suffice it to say I think that the kid just got even MORE trauma from this situation!!!

[@yucol5661]

Well, he is the kid. The person with the least autonomy in the whole situation

[@queenesther09]

Thanks to his brute of a father.

[@BlaxkSun]

Nah

[@Cokevas]

To be absolute fair, both parents were awful on handling this @@queenesther09

[@marianzisciumaspaniei]

you spelled hero wrong@@queenesther09

[@kittynorville9125]

Good for the kid standing up to that lady lawyer

[@nancyomalley6286]

The actor playing Scott, David Krumholz, was also in the "Law & Order: SVU" episode, "Wet"

[@asicdathens]

@@nancyomalley6286 He starred in Numb3rs

[@spacecadet2172]

That "lady lawyer" is Academy Award Winner Melissa Leo

[@dreamquesttv]

​@@spacecadet2172She starred in another Law and Order that I just watched. About a dog that mauled a jogger to death.

[@davidleedutton]

I saw David Krumholtz on Broadway last season in Leopoldstadt. It's amazing to see a kid like this grow up to be such a powerful character actor.

[@JosephDutra]

He was great in Oppenheimer!

[@Dr-Weird]

He was good in Adam's family values. The scene with him trading "Skitzos, and Serial Killers" cards with pugsly makes me giggle a bit, even tho it has aged horribly. I don't even remember what Amy Fischer did but I know it's bad.

[@theprotagonist1311]

He was Bernard in the Santa Clause

[@sairadha674]

He was the lead in the show numbers and I loved the show.

[@queenesther09]

Wow, he went far!

[@mrroboshadow]

"didnt Mr. Stone tell you exactly what to say?" interesting way to "win" the case, trying to get sanctioned and possibly disbarred

[@michaelmorton5698]

Indirectly accusing the EADA of suborning perjury or coaching a witness? Yeah, that's sanctionable and grounds for disbarment.

[@deathringer1003]

She looked pissed when he didn't give her the awencer she wanted

[@taurnguard]

After this, Scott then moved to the North Pole to work for Santa.

[@Fadingroses19]

But before that he was Wednesday Addams bf at camp

[@captainsteroid2454]

I knew I'd seen him before! XD

[@carynwaters9153]

He also moved to California with his older brother Don Eppes becoming an amazing mathematician 😂😂😂

[@joncarroll2040]

He also went to High School with Robin and the Joker

[@kristenfilipic3625]

And eventually became a Nobel prize winning physicist who didn’t want the culmination of three hundred years of physics to be a weapon of mass destruction.

[@mrshaggy-z4n]

Isn't Scott the same actor as Bernard, in the Santa Clause?

[@KevinGarethy]

I was wondering where I knew that face from! Yes you are correct!

[@elizabethr4107]

Yes

[@janetkizer5956]

I love the Ben Stone, Lennie and Mike years of L & O.

[@elizabethr4107]

💯

[@sarahw768]

Even though this clip reminds a lot of people about Jerry Springer (RIP

[@leelohaskin7941]

If anything I'm thinking about Jenny Jones

[@hayatie]

Also Oprah.

[@deadpool1dude413]

Catch me outside how bout dat

[@kassykreutzer6972]

I was thinking this dude reminds me of all the hosts in the 80s and 90s

[@saran3214]

Jerry Springer never pretended to help people.

[@dianagoenaga7263]

I don't remember this scene in Addams Family Values

[@aliciabruder1106]

Nor in the Santa clause, is this why Bernard disappear and Curtis takes over?

[@ErisRising]

THANK you. I was trying to place him through the whole clip.

[@that.ll_do_pig]

​@@ErisRising he was also in 10 Things I Hate About You.

[@PrincessLioness]

I knew he look familiar, his voice is very distinct as well.

[@TheObsidean]

He was also in Numbers

[@KarunanithiNRamachandran]

Do 18 months and released to abuse more kids . I sometimes fail to understand parents who don't ask their children how their day was and actually listen , not just to the words but body language .Parents are supposed to know their children better than anybody else . They don't even bother to get to know their children's friends and their parents . The rotten state the world is in now parents have to be more vigilant .

[@Kruppt808]

People close to the family have been abusing kids for thousands of years. What you think of as recent is actually not. What about the priests and altar boys? How was church Joey? Father MacKenzie was there?

[@ShadowSkyX]

Body language? I suspect over half of people aren't good at noticing that and what each thing means.

[@tjaudainofficial]

That's where the legendary of Van Buren began. 🎉❤

[@teodorusdikypermadi]

Nice until seasons 20

[@tjaudainofficial]

@@teodorusdikypermadi Till correction Season 20 finale

[@teodorusdikypermadi]

@@tjaudainofficial oh yeah my fault

[@gawainethefirst]

The “legendary” of Van Buren?

[@teodorusdikypermadi]

​@@gawainethefirst yup the 1st lieutanant

[@jasonluong3862]

This episode is based on an incident on the real-life The Jenny Jones Show when a man confessed on the air that he had a crush on his male neighbor who was told a secret admirer would confess this crush on the show. The man was so embarrassed that he killed the gay secret admirer. In the final analysis, the killer might be closeted gay himself to explain why he would take his revenge in so far as murder. Is it possible that The Jenny Jones Show people knew this and were baiting him to come out on air to get a double surprise? I don't know why some people want their deeply private matters be shown in public. When dealing with such raw emotions, people can react in so many unpredictable irrational ways. Basically they played with fire and got burned badly.

[@thesecretnewbie8872]

surprised its not based on the Larry Plauche incident, in which he shot his son's molester on live television in front of reporters and police escorts for the molester.

[@bradleybrown8399]

That was such an awful, tragic story

[@that.ll_do_pig]

No, it's not. Season 4 of Law & Order aired 93 to 94 and* that episode of Jenny Jones did not occur until 95

[@CharizardMaster69]

Isn’t also based on Gary Plauchet killing his son’s molestor?

[@Sephiroth766]

No, this episode aired 2 years before that incident.

[@rhx_ary]

This is so insensitive- making that boy who was molested sit and have an interview with him????? Pls call Olivia and Stabler right now HE MADE A QUEER PERSON COME OUT IN PUBLIC ON THE SPOT?? WHICH LED TO SUICIDE??🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️

[@Scriptorsilentum]

yes. in the 80s i know two guys who killed themselves after coming out. in each case their respective families threw them out, disowned them. it was a different time than now.

[@redlupo6193]

​​@@Scriptorsilentum *sigh* Unfortunately, in many ways it's not different enough today from then. Still happens every day.😢

[@ntinosaggelopoulos6718]

🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

[@ntinosaggelopoulos6718]

🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

[@adeleaslan8182]

And the mother has the audacity to say she wanted to get closure. What a disgusting woman

[@TenguTalks]

I saw this clip right after watching David Krumholtz play a dermatologist in a season 23 SVU episode. A shame they didn't have him play "the kid, all grown up." That woulda been continuity right there.

[@marianaguardiaa.k.amariana4780]

For the fellas this cap was Lt Van Buren and ADA Claire Kincaid first debut

[@electroskates2434]

😍😍😍😍🤩🤩🤩🤩

[@tjaudainofficial]

Yes indeed! That's where the legendary of Van Buren began.

[@marianaguardiaa.k.amariana4780]

@@tjaudainofficial Yeep

[@jamesfracasse8178]

Didn't Kincaid get bummed off in a car 🚗 accident in a later episode?

[@marianaguardiaa.k.amariana4780]

@@jamesfracasse8178 Yes, in the cap "Aftershock" (Last cap of Season 6)

[@forever_empress_marie]

Let me be the first to say 18 months that's not enough for one victim yet alone more than 4 woow

[@nialap]

Can we please get these older episodes on peacock please. They are good

[@sheg1969]

I agree

[@Loveroffood41]

Fully agreed right here.

[@danexplainsscience2205]

I am down to view this as a Numb3rs crossover.

[@Gear_Head]

That boy cooked that defense lawyer 😂

[@hellwraithcrow6273]

Poor Bernard. Might be why Santa hires hin

[@Beefer-e4j]

😂 a pity hire

[@TheStuport]

crazy timing that this was posted literally hours after Jerry Springer passed away.

[@daltonnorris8992]

Or that’s why it was posted in the first place.

[@yung1717]

It was obviously on purpose be so fr

[@erkful]

This is scum just like springer

[@posharay3871]

Jerry died?????? I have less words.. RIP

[@TheStuport]

@@daltonnorris8992 Good Point Dalton! Salute

[@RSLindsay]

That's the late Jim Boyd - J. Arthur Crank on "The Electric Company" - as Tommy's father.

[@shawnjackson3562]

I know that there are some that think this eposide was a wink at Jerry Springer. It was more of a head-butt at Morton Downey Jr. Jerry's show was smut. Morton shows were waayyy slimy, and low brow..This character was much closer to Morton's likeness than Jerry's.

[@kentallard8852]

being season 4 I think it would predate Jerry

[@AndyBluebear-fi9om]

Plus this episode came out years before Jerry started that phase of his show.

[@LatelyLucy]

The guy from numbers looked literally exactly the same as a child

[@evanescence7583]

They’re the same person- David Krumholtz

[@mew10521]

Ha ha I know

[@rogoth01themasterwizard11]

@@evanescence7583 sorry for the late reply, but I think the insinuation is that the guy looked EXACTLY the same as a kid as he does as an adult, meaning despite growing up, his physiology hasn't changed like most people do, which is abnormal.

[@evanescence7583]

@@rogoth01themasterwizard11 oh well then I guess they’re right lol

[@corduerorose9747]

Shouldn't David or should I say bernard help Santa make presents for the next 7 months 😁😂🤣1:46

[@draco84oz]

Or perhaps this is where Charlie gets his first insights into the Eppes Covergence?

[@corduerorose9747]

@@draco84oz as soon as dunston checks in 1st 🐒🤣

[@aliciabruder1106]

That or go to camp with the Addams family.

[@jamesfracasse8178]

Wait that kid is Bernard from the Santa clause movie franchise 😮!

[@corduerorose9747]

@@jamesfracasse8178 guilty as charged 👍

[@forestrot666]

32 and my mom still jokes about how I would watch this while doing homework for yeaaarss.

[@Malbeefance]

The one criticism I had of this show was the inaccurate depiction of the various prosecution and defense attorneys looking like they're locked in a personal war of one upmanship.

[@avocadoaficiando]

I think actor who plays the abused kid is the same guy who then later played Paul Sobricki in ER - the one that stabbed Lucy and Carter

[@calvinallen3424]

No, that's the kid that dated Wednesday Addams 😊

[@sheg1969]

David Krumholz...?

[@spacecadet2172]

Melissa Leo was also the defence attorney

[@emilythomson418]

Bestie that’s bernard

[@MuzzyBarker]

They could have at least let Mary sing first.

[@Beefer-e4j]

😂😂😂😂

[@davidhull1481]

Why did I bother watching the whole shows back then? In 13 minutes here’s the entire show.

[@lenitaa7938]

The airline and the stewardess ought to have been charged also for the manslaughter! (That also goes for any bartender that over-serves alcohol!) Serving over 12 glasses of alcohol 🍷 to anyone is seriously negligent and complicit! How about saying , ‚No!‘!?

[@onumaytuu]

The guy playing Mr. Mason also played a creepy journalist on " tales from the Crypt " same persona . He was killed that episode because of his narcissistic behavior.

[@blackermarket123]

Dude, is that kid the Polka-Dot Man? Edit: Oh, no this kid is def Bernardo the Elf.

[@janisgay5507]

The Captain looks very pretty in this episode.

[@michaelmorton5698]

Lieutenant. Cragen was a captain.

[@queenesther09]

"Oh, don't dump this on me. I put him in therapy, you put him in a murder trial." Pretty good point. Quite honestly, everything about that dad says he's a grown bully whose solution for most things is his fists and blaming everyone else but himself, and I doubt that came just from the molestation incident. And notice he didn't imply that his revenge did anything for his son, just for him. Yeah, nice guy.

[@JohnSmith-ct5jd]

Right. Sometimes, not all, of these fathers who want to avenge child molesters do so more out of revenge against their own masculinity being insulted rather than out of concern for the harm their sons suffered.

[@WadeAlma]

Suuuuure, son is molested and his momma wants him to go on tv and talk to the guy who molested him. He killed that man because he’s a child molester. Absolute nonsense.

[@bigravensfan21]

@@WadeAlma I don't think she was defending the mother putting her son on TV, just pointing out that the father's response was completely unacceptable.

[@WadeAlma]

@@bigravensfan21 Nah, father’s response is absolutely correct. Defend more peds why don’t you.

[@Ashbrash1998]

​@WadeAlma What he did was earn himself in jail for years, meaning he won't be able to see his son grow up or see any if his life.

[@aurorynfrost9817]

The kid sounded like a younger version of Bernard from the Santa clause

[@kassykreutzer6972]

He is the guy lol he's just younger

[@catmeurig]

He is the same actor 😂

[@dakotasavage2192]

The guy who played Scotty wasn’t he the kid that dates Wednesday Addams

[@enforcerridley158]

Yes, as well as the head elf in The Santa Clause starting Tim Allen.

[@KronnangDunn]

That kid played a middle aged, bespectacled Jewish physicist in Oppenheimer. I just recognized him. Wow....

[@Udle101]

That's David Krumholtz!! From 10 things I hate about you!

[@solsticebaby]

THAAAAAANK youuuuuuu! I couldn't place him and it was driving me crazy

[@marcosjuarez7809]

That episode of Law & Order was loosely based on what happened to Maritza Martin Munoz who was shot to death by her ex-husband, Emilio Nuñez, at Our Lady Queen of Heaven Cemetery in North Lauderdale, Florida. Nuñez had been interviewed by Ocurrió Así (sort of like Inside Edition but for the Spanish-speaking audience in the United States) television reporter Ingrid Cruz, who accompanied him when he visited his daughter's grave.

[@JosephDutra]

I thought it was based on Gary Plauche.

[@marcosjuarez7809]

@@JosephDutra That too was loosely based on.

[@courtneylomax5180]

Everyone is recognising rhe kid as a young Bernard from The Santa Clause, am I the only one who sees Joel Blicker from The Addams Family Values?

[@_nwoony]

I deadass can’t believe my favorite actor was in this episode as a small character 💀

[@landang7906]

1:08 Why would anyone accept to appear on those interviews, criminals or victims? The show is a bit sick, retelling the crime and making people relive them. i am glad someone agreed. 3:37

[@MadameChristie]

Hey, it's baby David Krumholtz!

[@banizuku1675]

I remember being 8 years old watching this in tv. I'm now 17 and I rewatch episodes all the time

[@jeremyjones6577]

Wow. The very young David Krumholtz.

[@karilinn4260]

That's Bernard! From the Santa Clause movies!

[@Boskov01]

In the immortal words of the great Sherlock Holmes at the end of the Master Blackmailer Case, "Inspector, my sympathies are with the criminals in this matter." The father's actions were pure and justified. If I were on the jury for that dad, I would not vote to convict.

[@MadMontyMN]

That opening with Robert Klien was interesting

[@555nadira]

Are the earlier seasons now available on Peacock? Do you need the highest tier to watch?

[@markusbrauns4274]

I loved Law and Order from the very beginning, but ever since watching the movie Ted, I can't help but laugh, when I hear the music, I automatically hear Ted and Mark Wahlberg singing in that strong Boston accent, Let's go to court...

[@kimberlywiederhold627]

That boy is Charlie Epps from Numb3rs.

[@casanova419]

The Judge should have called Raymond RED Reddington and the kid Santa Claus.

[@claytonalva7042]

Was this the episode directed by Dan Florek (captain Cragen) ??

[@Technobabylon]

Naw, this was James Frawley. Florek directed S4.E10, S4.E16 and S5.E20

[@hannahlynn7133]

Hey wasn’t he from the Addams family I forgot the name of the other one was it value? Value something idk

[@geoffwilliams4478]

Addams Family Values. He was the boy who liked Wednesday at Chippewa Summer Camp.

[@sistakia33]

Where do THESE episodes come from? Every time I see Peacock, I only see seasons 13-22! Most of us want access to full episodes that show seasons 3-12! Where are THOSE?

[@Ironmew05]

The boy playing Scott? Isn't he Bernard from The Santa Clause movie?

[@JeremyRobbins-b1n]

Yes. And if you watch cable tv or stream...look for a tv series called NUMB3RS (Numbers); a great show from the early to mid 2000s.

[@BodaciousWench]

That kid could play a younger version of David Krumholtz.

[@BodaciousWench]

Holy moley it is David Krumholtz. This show has been on for a long time.

[@SmokeyMcb]

@@BodaciousWench He could play a young David Krumholtz in a biography movie about David Krumholtz

[@TSC-hr7ir]

LOVE THIS SHOW ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@Kiel-74]

Almost More commercials in this 13 minute clip than if I just watched the entire episode on tv.

[@Star-dj1kw]

You can pay for KZbin premium and you won’t have any ads

[@that.ll_do_pig]

​@@Star-dj1kw or, usually, you can scroll the video to the end and hit the replay button. I have Premium now but that's how I used to do it before paying.

[@Kiel-74]

@@Star-dj1kw right, because people aren’t already spending stupid amounts of money on all the various streaming services.

[@gipsydanger5020]

I use KZbin adblocker

[@SRFAA]

​@@Star-dj1kwThat's not a good point. There shouldn't be more ads on a clip of an episode than the actual episode.

[@alex1vid]

Who remembers the early to mid 90s with smut TV? Springer, Rickey Lake, Sally, Maury, Jenny Jones and MORE. At the same time reality TV was starting in a different way with Real World on MTV. Something about the kids acting felt more natural (like it matters). Slower, deliberate... like he would be medicated - which makes sense.

[@laurelsilberman5705]

That was a good one.

[@stanburk7392]

Wouldn't there be a no contact order for the molester and his victims?

[@lilacollette1741]

I don't like that he only gets a year for all the lives he destroyed

[@OrbitalLocket]

I think the lawyer in the red blazer is the same as the defendant in the dog fight case. Interesting haven't watched many of these but was pretty quick i saw a reapeat actor in a different role

[@sheg1969]

Why don't they show the early seasons on Peacock?

[@TheBatugan77]

Lick my peacock.

[@sgodil2739]

Where can I watch all episodes in full for free in the Uk Also I can’t seem to find season 9 episode 17

[@lelandunruh7896]

"And that's why you always leave a note."

[@AndyBluebear-fi9om]

@10:24 Is the judge allowed to offer previous rulings to counter one side's argument? Wasn't that Ben's job?

[@kentallard8852]

that tv host is obviously meant to be based on Morton Downey Jr

[@keelieinwonderland]

Well he’s on the bad list 😂

[@TabsT-vy5jy]

That judge was in raymond reddington

[@EthalaRide]

So a Gary Plauché incident facilitated by Dr. Phil. Interesting they had to add on the last part because if it was just a dad capping his son's abuser after he got a slap on the wrist, then yeah, no jury would convict him.

[@samanthab1923]

Oscar winner Melissa Leo!

[@paulcoy9060]

9:15 Mr. Kaplan?

[@Faagata21t]

Fellow Blacklister I see😊😊😊

[@slottyken]

Do they really have programmes like that on US TV? 18 months for sexually abusing 7 kids and then appearing on TV with his victims and writing a book ffs! I mean I know this is a TV show but it must be based in some kind of reality. Surely this cannot be indicative of US TV?

[@meljohnson2852]

No, it is not. Plus, in America a criminal can not profit from his crime(s). So, the book thing would not be allowed.

[@Beefer-e4j]

No

[@ottokarl5427]

I always wonder that in US shows. But since all of them do it, there must be something to it? Like how possible suspects in the news always get called by full name or those shots from helicopters of takedowns etc. Like...in Germany, none of that would happen. At "worst", suspects get called by their first name, but nothing more. And kids in particular are so much protected, there aren't even visitors allowed during trial, not to mention the media

[@earlleeruhf3130]

I thought the twist would be the lady that testified against her boss would take over the show and be just as bad.

[@redbigun]

David Krumholtz was on Law and Order before?

[@mydadownsadealership]

5:46 "We go to commercial" *cuts to KZbin ad about the crisis in Gaza*

[@rachelgarber1423]

Kid reminds me of Sal Mineo

[@leafy_5]

Charlie Eppes years before he started helping the FBI using math. 😮🤓😳

[@Kidapollo92]

Ayyye is this oh boy from the Adam’s family movie

[@rochelle-xz8gl]

I would have no problem acquitting this dad!

[@chriiiiis]

Honestly? Don't like the mom. Why would you put your son in the same room as the guy who assaulted him? And why would you want that televised?

[@dandymaiden]

She probably doesn’t think it or maybe it’s internalized to lie to herself it’s for her son ,but I think she craved the attention, even at the cost of her sons mental wellbeing

[@LynneCrisp-w2h]

So smug. Then she lost they found him guilty

[@austinsmith1505]

I wonder what Geraldo Rivero would think about this episode

[@zero-vi2uz]

Jeremy Kyle uk....he did the same.....vile human😊

[@aleisaetheridge8682]

Mason should have been found guilty of alot more than he was ,what a evil creep .

[@MondoBeno]

Why would the mother have her kid go on television for a face-to-face with the man who abused him?

[@RhyperiorRanger]

3:17 hey that’s what inmates say

[@Fecker_Carlson]

Husband was not crazy, totally sane and valid

[@ReymundoCortez]

And as a grown up he came out in an episode of law and order svu

[@randylenz4201]

Was 'Mr Kaplan" the judge?

[@josephrmancini3877]

Conan judged the words and Answered To His Queen Thea Bernice Mancini

[@MrDeadsr]

"still be a bit angry"

[@noobimax]

Je savais pas que Greg du Palmashow était bilingue 😂