Murdered On Her FIRST DAY At Work

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Today's solved true crime case is on the murder of Carol Jenkins. Stalked and murdered on her first day at work as a door-to-door saleswoman, the racism in the police force at the time in the 1960s led to this becoming a cold case that would only be solved after 30 years.
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[@EleanorNeale]

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[@barrronessa]

thanks mum x

[@ellaoliwia5180]

hii eleanor x

[@loonayvespop]

Hi eleanor🫶

[@helloagainitsjasmine3752]

hello eleanor x

[@alicedoesntknow_]

you're the best Eleanor! so happy to see a post of yours

[@cocogoat1111]

Something that seems to be overlooked but why was their boss sending two young black women into a known racist town? That seems insanely irresponsible to me.

[@AMMA83]

I agree. Absolutely shameful.

[@NoirValkyrie]

I thought the same thing. They likely knew they'd be injured, harassed or fail their assignment because of the racism in that town. Very suspicious.

[@HajarJackoub]

Yes!!! He should hold some responsibility for that!

[@Carmen-us1ew]

I thought the same thing!!

[@dreamweaverkhronikles9206]

Wouldn't be surprised if he was a "supremesist" on the low and sent them there to satisfy the sickness lot the clan...

[@patyleetch8526]

The fact that sundown towns are still a thing is disgusting.

[@nicholas8484]

literally, why do we have to hate people for being different

[@rubyxoxo9815]

WHAT they are still a thing that is disgusting

[@who8016]

@@rubyxoxo9815 all over the US there are sundown towns my friend was attacked on a road trip on her way to LA for coachella like 5 years ago.

[@thatdamncrow9197]

@@rubyxoxo9815 kinda They are basically towns where you will likely be harassed for being non white And so they make it awful to be there as a non white person

[@dailydavis1970]

@@rubyxoxo9815 oh yeah my brother took a road trip (we’re mixed) and he had to go though kentucky and he accidentally stopped in one for gas and had comments made

[@124Nightwing]

Bless those two people that knew how racist their neighbors were and tried to protect her. That takes a lot of compassion and courage.

[@puppiepawz444]

agreed. im glad to hear that there were people then who saw the truth of the situation and had decent morals.

[@princesswilson5144]

I pray the kind people are still alive

[@breannabranson4976]

Agreed💕

[@michelleprieur1]

They were amazing. I have to admit that I probably wouldn't let a complete stranger in my house. Not these days, I'm sorry but I can't and won't. I will call the police, absolutely but they were so courageous. Especially considering the circumstances and the times.

[@mirandaablog9179]

@@michelleprieur1 it’s important to remember the context in a sundown town in the 1960s a young very distressed black women shows up seeking refuge from racist harassers. I would 100% let her in, even today she’s alone on foot.

[@magenpatterson9958]

they called her "n-word girl" WHILE REPORTING ON HER MURDER??!! never have i been more sad and disgusted. I cried through the entire second half of this video, unbelievable. Thanks for telling her story

[@sarahrichelo529]

this infuriated me so much i nearly threw my phone. disgusting. all of those on the case should have NEVER even had a badge !!!

[@Devils_Advocate423]

You guys realize that not much has changed in this country, right? Granted they wouldn’t say “n-word girl” these days but the police typically avoid charging white people for murder when they victim is black. Trayvon Martin, stalked and attacked by a known racist while he was walking home after buying candy and juice. Zimmerman told the police it was self defense and the cops said “ok” and the case was closed. It wasn’t until people started protesting that the cops arrested him. Of course the jury let him go…the whole trial was rigged. Zimmerman became a hero for killing a black kid and white folks everywhere donated hundreds of thousands of dollars to his defense. The governor handpicked to the DA and her job was to lose the case. Ahmad Arberry…jogging and minding his own business. Two racist white men chase him in a truck. He’s exhausted so they catch up and kill him with a shot gun. Cops pull up and let him die before bothering to an ambulance. Of course the racists lied and say they were the victims here and the DA told the cops not to arrest them. A healthy black woman goes to an adult slumber party with other moms from her kids little league team. There’s a bunch of women and husbands of two of the women. Everyone else is white. The next morning the blank woman is found dead in the backyard. They called it suicide…no arrests. A few months ago a black woman went on a date with a white man she met on Tinder. Later that day he calls the police and says “she just died”…cops said he seemed like a nice guy and left it at that. They took no evidence from her apartment. I could go on and on. Nothing has changed. If you pay attention to the news you’ll see these cases. But I get it…nobody cares about black lives. While Gabby Petito was missing a black medical school student was also missing and found dead. He wasn’t all over the news 24/7.

[@judywalter9412]

Yes it was ‘negro girl’, it’s so awful 🤦🏽‍♀️

[@tcl09110]

@@judywalter9412 that’s so horrible and such a lack of respect coming from the people who are supposed to so called “protect and serve.”

[@Jellybeansatdusk]

It used to be more common until hatred and prejudice and crimes caused it to become a slur

[@lenamariejackson]

i genuinely struggle to believe that the police ‘accidentally’ failed to do basic things in this case like not tape and close off the crime scene.

[@rhodaakomolafe8845]

they definitely did it on purpose

[@yessica5231]

it's also so ridiculously common for pd's to do stuff like this. plus they were most likely racist.

[@Niallmylove]

Same if 50% of the men were part of the kkk no doubt a big chunk of them were cops too.

[@lalabandicoot4736]

Yea me either. They didn't care is what it boils down to 😔 Disgusting and beyond heartbreaking 💔

[@moniques9127]

That is like saying you accidentally forgot to put one foot in front of the other. She was rushed to hospital and what the retired to the police station for donuts and were like Oopsie I forgot to do my assignment for first day at police school. Secure the crime scene. Rubbish like that makes my blood boil because that "simple mistake" has hurt many cases.

[@H.P.Blavatsky]

It’s a bit comforting knowing in her last hours she found people who showed her kindness in her moment of need.

[@miap]

I wish she had stayed with them or asked someone to drive her home. 😢 I was listening to this story still hoping she would make it out safe.

[@HDNoll]

@@miap me too

[@brian7624]

@@miap that’s the saddest part of these videos i want them to make it home to their families so bad but ik that they’re gone because there’s a video on them💔

[@kaerenparker3364]

Ya'll naive to think 2 wyte people were different. They prolly set her up when she left their house. She knew they were not sincere. Demons gone pay one day.

[@Awakend7]

@@kaerenparker3364 not all white people back then we’re racist, you did find some kind compassionate white people who couldn’t care less what colour people are. Please don’t think all white people are the same.

[@peakofhumanity1022]

the fact those neighbours went above and beyond to help carol letting her in, calling the police, offering a place to stay the night, walking with her etc and yet carol still became a victim is so tragic

[@samanthaM7119]

these are the cases that get me, where they do everything right and still end up falling victim

[@moonblossom7903]

I think that couple was a lesson in history to us that not everyone is vile and cruel.....and racist,but most of all that we can find help in the most unlikely places,cos there are good people out there. Thank you for all the likes.😊

[@rebeccat7912]

@@moonblossom7903 exactly. This case was absolutely devastating, but those two really brought me so much hope for humanity. There are good people, and they always existed.

[@wigglemelon8807]

@@moonblossom7903 that's not the lesson that matters.

[@janewayofchaos3255]

That's one of the most heartbreaking parts, and then the town turned on them for trying to do the right thing....

[@user-hf7zu8um3j]

Why would they send two young black women to a sundown town in the first place? Knowing that the final meet-up was after sundown?? And knowing that the town is just super racist in general? Blows my mind

[@rachaelgraceblack]

What an horrific story. Norma and Don were good people, if only more of the townsfolk were like them, she would have survived.

[@casuallycloudy6772]

I guess there was that teenager too

[@dannyg3890]

And the kid 🥺

[@joshsymington189]

@@casuallycloudy6772 kno ok kno on n on. Onoooo onon

[@joshsymington189]

@@casuallycloudy6772 oooo ooooooolkkkoo I kno ok ok okokooooooooooonoooononnnoononkkkkkkkkkkkkkokkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkok

[@BonMooney]

Why are they seen as "good people"? Because they did what any sane human being would do? Stop promoting the "great white saviour" myth

[@Palehotdog]

Now why would they send a BLACK WOMEN to a town like that 😑 obviously her boss was either dumb as rocks, racist as hell or both! Rip carol ♥️

[@jadedavis822]

True plus if she really knew why would she go...

[@nimatajani5723]

@@jadedavis822 Eleanor legit said In the video that she wanted to impress her new boss.

[@shailaadia974]

@@jadedavis822 if didn’t go she would have probably been fired. I wish black women didn’t have to risk our lives to even have a job but it’s what we go through now too

[@HalimaSJW]

@@nimatajani5723 yeah and she should have never been put in that position. They have white employees. Why put her in such a hostile environment?

[@nicholas8484]

@@jadedavis822 are you dense -

[@chaimaeb.6661]

What a horrifying case, and why would her boss endanger her by sending her to such a town…

[@rohanmorningstar7795]

Her boss was probably racist as well, albiet subtly

[@ashleyw6160]

Yeah & I'm sure everyone knew what kind of town it was. It seems to me like the boss didn't really give a damn,either. Especially, when it sounded like they knew they were going to be there after dark.

[@wigglemelon8807]

He didn't care. We're often considered disposable.

[@deltasaves]

We as black women are considered disposable property and have been since our ancestors were brought here centuries ago. We were experimented on for medical research, we were used as breeding vessels... Exploited and abused.

[@johnnys6thtoe]

It was the fact that the boss sent two black women there too not just her 🤦🏾‍♀️.

[@krishoward1360]

It was so unsafe to send her there! Racism is disgusting and I’m thankful this angel is now getting Justice. Thanks for sharing Carol’s story.

[@eden20111]

What Norma and Don did was so kind and selfless. Out of all the houses, Carol managed to pick one who were friendly to her. They both wanted to make sure she was ok and even offered to let her stay the night wow.. I wish more people were like them.

[@mumtazamiri6409]

I wish she had accepted 😔

[@noseexplorer]

Dude yes ! Such amazing people to accept her despite the repercussion.

[@madsxg]

imagine if she knocked on a racist persons house.. im glad she had people who cared for her before she passed.

[@destiniturner3312]

Sad truth: Martinsville is still very much racist to this day. I live in Indianapolis, IN and do social work and case management and get cases from surrounding counties. I used to get cases for families in Martinsville (about 20 mins from me). As a black woman, I experienced first hand the racism that resides in this town. One time I had to stop for gas, and midway through me pumping, a white man came out the store and told me I needed to leave because “surely I was lost”. Yet, he saw my Indiana license plates. Families would refuse to work with me because of my race and worse. Now, I refuse to accept cases or even drive through the town because the people will stare at you through your car. It’s sad because there’s a lot of small towns in Indiana just like this; racist. As a black Indianian, we know which areas to stay out of.

[@lorriegore9796]

So sorry you have to deal with this. Case work is hard enough, thank you for contributing so much to your community despite what you deal with outside of your work. You’re amazing!

[@chloegianna3837]

SO TRUE!!! Im so sorry you experienced that. I grew up knowing not to go to Martinsville.

[@KirstenClaire21]

This kills me 🥺😢 be safe sweetheart!

[@crystolslimbracey]

Please be safe. I’m glad you and others are aware of the dangerous people who reside there.

[@To45ter]

LOL google this liers facebook if you work in social work and case management im a blue dog that searches for clues.....no your not a victim your an attention seeker LOL.

[@wigglemelon8807]

It's honestly kind of insulting when people act so shocked at blatant racism.... Or convince themselves that it *must* just be a "small group" of remaining racists. Listen to us. We've been saying these things. It's not that hard.

[@pearlkelly6337]

I just can't get it into my head like how people can hate someone just because from where they are from etc like it baffles me big time it doesn't make sense at all

[@jj4754]

Exactly. I hear a lot of non black ppl talk about racism and are genuinely surprised as or shocked as if it’s a unicorn. Like for poc this can be an everyday interaction

[@okidgaf7643]

@@pearlkelly6337 has nothing to do w where u r from they don’t know shit abt africa or asia for fucks sake they r racist bc they deem themselves superior to anyone else. anyone else is inferior below them and less capable. this adds up w accountability and these ppl knowing they can do what they want by treating others as less bc they won’t get punished and they find joy in belittling ppl. how much will u bet that white men who r kkk leaders also abuse their wives and children? r sexist? or have sexually abused a kid of theirs? way too likely for that same reason. they never experienced anything other than getting away w everything. they like abusing their power at the end that’s the only thing that actually matters to them lmao power over random ppl so they don’t have to feel powerless and unworthy

[@amandaleighplans]

When people say “racism isn’t around anymore, that was back in the day!” like do they think those people died and racism ended? Nah.. they had kids and passed that shit on to them. And so on and so on. It baffles me that people can know the history of this country and think racism just ✨disappeared✨ because we’re in more modern times

[@jessicawilliams3849]

Acknowledging the truth would mean there’s an expectation for them to stand up and help, and many people don’t want to see the world change. Why help fix racism if it doesn’t affect you?

[@alldayeveryday20able]

No one went to prison but a couple people definitely went to hell.

[@sarabobara8458]

One of the saddest parts is that Carol felt she was being a burden on Norma and Don, but based on how Norma behaved, Norma cared, and was concerned, Carols death is a far bigger "burden" on Normas shoulders than Carol ever would have been had she stayed the night. Remember this if you are ever in a similar situation, be a burden because I am sure it absolutely eats Norma up that Carol didnt stay that night. Clearly Carol is the true victim, but I imagine it must haunt Norma.

[@lexys.6640]

I was thinking the same thing. Also how her job must feel taking her to Martinsville on her first day and having this happen.

[@Reese_Cup]

Norma and Don could've waited with her knowing they lived in a sundown town. It's one thing to keep her safe in your home in private but publicly they didn't protect her.

[@tylerford8827]

@@Reese_Cup I think if they publicly protected her they would've been attacked too

[@Reese_Cup]

@@tylerford8827 They were still harassed by the vile community they chose to live in.

[@generalgamer122]

@@Reese_Cup I get your point, but you don't seem to be taking into account that Norma and Don were told that she had people who would meet her there and that she didn't wanna to annoy them anymore. Thats a clear sign of "you've done enough, I'm fine from here".

[@peachyducky97]

Being a 24 year old black woman listening to this case has literally almost had me on the verge of tears. Thank you for sharing this case with us. People need to be aware of how not very far in the past how racist America was and STILL is.

[@maliuuum]

I have never lived or been to the USA, but as a kid I really wanted to take part in the "American dream" we're all fed. Now I learn how terrifying it must be for people to live in certain places, and my heart goes out to all of you. It's crazy that this sort of thing still happens, racism should have been left in the 1800s, or ever better; it never should have happened.

[@Mspianonotes]

LIES. Don’t lie this comment is ignorant af.

[@Mspianonotes]

@@maliuuum don’t be deceived. The only scary places to live are those ran by Democrats. Look it up. That’s the most violent areas. Also, black on black crime is SCARIER than “racism”

[@milkncookiegurl778]

It is honestly so exhausting having people say and do wild shit because my skin is dark. Can’t go a single day without being reminded “I’m black so that makes me different” 😕

[@peachypeggy6140]

❤️❤️❤️

[@uniklyme]

I find it so crazy that places like these still exist, utterly disgusting. Rest In Peace Carol. And thank you Eleanor for covering this ♡

[@strange.wonderful]

What? In 2022?

[@Anna-xe6nu]

@@strange.wonderful yes in the us

[@michellepittman7828]

@@Anna-xe6nu really? Can I have an example, that’s so horribly unbelievable

[@andria8279]

@@michellepittman7828 wdym?? It’s all over the internet

[@andria8279]

@@michellepittman7828 wdym?? It’s all over the internet

[@WhoIsThatGirl79]

As a black woman...this case is so sad and makes me angry.Your storytelling kept me engaged to where I didnt even realize how long I had been watching this video.It's so messed up that these racists have soo much power in that town.There is evil out here and there is good.This poor young woman did not deserve to be murdered like that.Just doing a job to make money to support her and her family.I also think she deserves some type of memorial some where.😔

[@EryberrieTrueCrime]

Wow, what a tragic case. Racism makes me so fucking angry, especially when it obstructs justice. Thanks again, Eleanor.

[@puppiepawz444]

same! i will never be able to understand why racism was ever an issue and i will ESPECIALLY never understand why it's still such a struggle in our world to this day. i dont understand how there are still so many people out there who havent opened their eyes.

[@EryberrieTrueCrime]

@@puppiepawz444 I get that totally. WE ARE ALL HUMAN!

[@puppiepawz444]

@@EryberrieTrueCrime PERIOD. i wish more people understood that.

[@EryberrieTrueCrime]

@@puppiepawz444 On my channel I'm trying to cover cases from all over the world, different cultures and ethnicities, trying to show that life is life and crime is crime. One day, we will get to a place in which everyone is treated the same.

[@puppiepawz444]

@@EryberrieTrueCrime i hope so!! thank you for doing your part! i'll definitely check the channel out after this video 🤪

[@samuellasyoutube]

"She got what she deserved" those men are disgusting. I can't imagine how scared Carol was for her life when they attacked her. I feel sorry for her family 💔

[@ashleyw6160]

Beyond disgusting 🥺

[@yahairadatbrat27_]

Beyond disgusting 😔

[@Msubulldogs09]

They were completely disgusting, and should have been prosecuted much sooner, but we also know that they're in some place kinda warm 🔥 right now.....#hell

[@hannahjohnson698]

Norma helping Carol is so heart warming .. as a native woman in Canada.. we are at the highest risk for being missing or murdered .. I am so scared whenever I'm alone if I get attacked or ask a non native for help that they won't.. an hearing that Norma helped Carol so much and cared so much.. makes me feel that there is actually caring human beings..

[@hannahjohnson698]

@Ghost boy thank you

[@EnderPanReigns]

its awful how high the rates are for violence against native american women- it's astonishing. stay safe!

[@tiffanystarkey6620]

I’m so sorry… My great grandfather was stolen off a reservation and put into slavery. I really want to know our real last name. Maybe even meet family. I will pray for your safety ❤️

[@aj32769]

This makes me so sad. I would help you if you came to my door. I would make sure that anyone was safe. I can’t even believe someone wouldn’t do the same.

[@Ray-oz1hv]

Wait, seriously? Is Canada racist? I'm sorry to ask this, I'm an African woman. I've always heard wonderful things about Canada, however, I have 4 daughters, I'd much rather hear the ugly truth, than the beautiful lie.

[@TheNerd-Y]

This is sickening. Poor Carol and her family

[@Kai-dl2bq]

As soon as Eleanor said that Carol heard "a lot" about the place she was being sent to I cringed. Knew instantly it was going to be a sundown town. That poor woman, she had so much left to do.

[@chill525]

@Sam H this is very true half the information learned is from random videos and stuff from the internet.

[@iluvmochipoland]

@Sam H Unfortunately they are still a thing. Vidor is a horrible example of one.

[@starslights9834]

@Sam H sundown towns are still around, now that you know you can spread the word to your friends or bring it up to your teacher for them to spread the word!

[@804smiles]

@Sam H very very true fam! Be safe & the good thing is at least u guys have the internet Google & sites like KZbin where u can learn about this type of stuff while I'm 40 & still learning out how horrible our history really is

[@crimenerd2452]

@Sam H same and I'm in 10.

[@classical3185]

I hate racism. How anyone can despise someone so much just because their skin is a different color is a seriously appalling thing. The fact it’s still a thing that exists is beyond sad. We are the same!! ✊🏻✊🏽✊🏾✊🏿

[@thefemalefuture1]

PERIOD

[@Violetlovell]

Just because someone is born a certain way is apparently enough for said person to be harmed in anyway and it’s sad 😓

[@kimdracvla]

THIS!

[@emeraldbenson828]

Me too and that creepy part is she kind of look like me

[@KittyCat260]

I can't remember the exact words, but I had a teacher when I was little who told us that if everything in the world was painted blue then everything would be boring, and we had a rainbow of skin tones just like a rainbow of colours that made the world a nicer place to live in. I always thought that was cute.

[@dorothydrevnak6139]

Maybe someone has already mentioned this but… during that first encounter, the police didn’t take the NAMES of the stalkers that admitted to stalking Carol? Insanity!!!

[@rmcar549]

It's not unusual bc stalking wasn't even a crime back then.

[@laurabuehler]

@@rmcar549 Exactly! It wasn't illegal to terrorize anyone like that, whether race was involved or not.

[@huldah1605]

@@laurabuehler To a certain extent cos if race were reversed I definitely do not think the police would ignore the case.

[@cj1812011]

1 in 2...

[@Seamonkey555]

It likely wasn't the same people. The first harrassers were in a car, and the second, the murderers, were in a truck with a child. I was surprised she said "car" both times. However, she did correct herself to "automobile or whatever".

[@Jaya-zn7vr]

To be a woman is hard enough but to be a woman of colour even in 2022 must be harrowing. My heart goes out to Carol's family 🧡

[@shalomyisrael6931]

Woman of color?...er...isnt white a color?

[@khav11]

poor women...wah wah wah

[@Jaya-zn7vr]

@@khav11 well you're obviously a totally creep!!

[@khav11]

@@Jaya-zn7vr you must be a witch!

[@mqib681]

@@khav11 all your comments are just disregarding these victims of the cases so ur comment is irrelevant

[@jenjones90]

My view of small towns in the American South/Midwest from back then was so negative that when you said she was let into the couple's house i actually thought they were going to hurt her. It's nice to know that she at least was shown respect and care from that couple amidst these horrific acts.

[@kfcchicken1610]

Ya I was like, "oh no, this girl is gonna get beat up or murdered while she looks for help." There was so much racism that I wasn't expecting good people. It's nice to know that there have always been good people in bad places. This case is just awful, the fact that it was ignored because nobody cared about this girl. They were all racist horrid people

[@MonkeyD.Luffy56]

It's still like thisv

[@margo-sophiehawkins978]

Bless those two people who took her into their home and helped her so much when she was scared. It’s heartbreaking that Carol could have stayed with them and been safe but she didn’t want to impose on them anymore.

[@envyly]

Carol was failed by everyone except for her family. I can’t believe it took 30 YEARS for them to solve this case and that they dropped it two months in. RIP Carol

[@aileen8492]

Except Norma and Don too

[@arielperez3613]

They didn’t fully solve this case because they didn’t find the accomplice

[@Psshyeahbby]

you had my jaw dropping in the drive thru waiting for my order, at the grocery store, AT WORK, listening to this story?? it made me so fucking angry to hear the absolute injustice carol jenkins and her poor family received. you’re 100% right eleanor, racism is ridiculously strong and deep rooted. even in 2001, 2014 and 2022. makes me fucking sick that the guy NARROWLY escaped justice. i am almost mad at shirley for not speaking up? but i can’t blame a 7 year old… absolutely heartbreaking and sick and UNFORTUNATE event for everyone involved.

[@bloodyneptune]

Wait, the murder had nothing to do with the people shed been running from? That's absolutely terrifying

[@shakairakaira]

Nope she was in a sundown town if they didn’t get her somebody else would’ve unfortunately this was the 60’s

[@its_me961]

@@shakairakaira the sad thing is is that sundown towns still exist

[@Hopeandpeaceinjesus]

@@its_me961 even here in the U.K. we still have sundowns too. It’s disgusting.

[@claireeverard2369]

@@Hopeandpeaceinjesus are there? Where?

[@nicholas8484]

why did I not realize that

[@reneethomas8539]

48:00 I don't care how old the offender is, if they are actually guilty, time doesn't matter. Just like the Nazi Hunters, even 80 year old men and women deserve to be punished for their crimes.

[@punxie89]

Agreed. Many people just think oh sweet old person! No...they very easily could have been a horrible person their whole life, they're just older now! Plenty of old people are horrible, and often become worse in their old age

[@olynellis9151]

As a person of color living in america, we still have sundown towns. And yes, this father was very very right that the reason her murder was so mishandled and investigated so lightly was because she was a single young black woman murdered in a sundown town. You said it yourself, one in two of the white men in that area were members of the KKK and unfortunately that's the reality, those statistics apply to the police as well there. This poor woman was brutally murdered in cold blood and despite her having as much of a life as any person, the police ignored the claims of her stalking and harassment, and this led to her death. Its disheartening and saddening to realize that this still happens today in this country constantly. Including the backlash Norma and Don faced.

[@nyxicy]

Still in current day and time, harassment and stalking on first occurrence goes unpunished. As a white female, I had this happen to me and it took three reports and an almost child abduction to get the police to believe and do something. I could not imagine if I was if color how many more resorts had to be filed. But my point is, they (police) don’t do ANYTHING with just one report of harassment. Sadly ☹️

[@ellyssarose712]

I am filled with such rage and disappointment that sundown towns were and still are a thing I had no idea and I never will have any idea what it’s like to be a person of colour as I am a young white female but I really hope and pray you never have to go through this I hope and pray no person (especially a person of colour) has to ever go through this it genuinely breaks my heart how poorly poc cases get treated x

[@HakuFreak19]

Didn't know that. What area have these!!? That's insane.

[@brandonduet7771]

What about the black versios of those towns? Cause there are plenty of them in the eastern parts of Louisiana

[@cosmicnic]

@@brandonduet7771 probably a safety precaution lol

[@DrewJacobson61]

There’s a place of torment reserved for Kenneth and all his ilk. Thanks for sharing this horrible story ❤

[@crystalmichellef3rg23]

I really appreciate the fact that you covered this case Eleanor... SN: How in the hell did the police "forget" to secure the crime scene?? I have my theories, but....

[@peachyducky97]

Right I don’t think they forgot at all. They just didn’t care.

[@brandonduet7771]

There's literally 100s up 100s of cases between Eleanor and other you tubers where the police didn't give a shit, didn't respond, poor investigation and the victims are white.

[@crystalmichellef3rg23]

@@peachyducky97 definitely 🤦🏾‍♀️

[@mumtazamiri6409]

I'm still intrigued about that chisel in the gas tank... And how did the private investigator find out about the guy in Florida ? And if he did, what was done about it ? I mean, if you know he's alive then you know where he is and if you know where he is..... hmmm

[@janewayofchaos3255]

More like "neglected" to secure.....

[@MiChiLolipop10]

this case made my jaw drop the entire video. the racism she and her family had to deal with is insanely disgusting.

[@puppiepawz444]

right? hearing everything she went through made me sick to my stomach

[@Steampunkkids]

Welcome to Indiana! I know that things (on the surface) have gotten better there over the years. People have just gotten better at not being as outwardly racist. Smh

[@wigglemelon8807]

@@Steampunkkids EXACTLY. People who act like racism just isn't a thing or it's "not as bad" are ignorant. It's not as openly legal, but racists still find a way and systematic racism has barely changed at all. I'm sure those same people would be just as surprised to learn the KKK still exists 🙄

[@cammyt9030]

The couple that let her in to try and protect her are absolute angels on earth.

[@fffffff6822]

I know what you mean, but its just so depressing that helping a black lady hide from racists makes you an angel. Its what anyone should do in a situation like this just as a normal decent person. Id call someone whos fighting in courts trying to change all these racists laws angels.

[@cosmicnic]

@@fffffff6822 i get what youre saying, but in that time it was pretty fuckin ballsy to do what they did. Id say they are "angels of their time" if anything. I do agree though, the real angels are the ones in the courts fighting these types of laws

[@Lisalee5469]

Thank you So much for Sharing this Story!! I’ve heard so much about many murder mystery’s, never this one! It Saddens me how vile, evil and Racist people can BE!! Justice for CAROL!!

[@aestheticg0]

i feel like Carol probably would’ve been alive till this day if she said yes to sleeping over at that couples house. it’s so sad on how she died

[@mememe217]

😞 ❤️

[@kathymachen8342]

I thought that too.

[@courtneymichelle5746]

Or if she left just a little later when her coworkers were there :(

[@lewid019]

Or in the case of Emmett till. They would have dragged her out of their house to kill her.

[@foxymama2003]

I grew up in a sundown town. It was awful! Things didn’t start to change until the late 80s. I recently moved back to help with my mom along with my son and his biracial girlfriend. I was so terrified that she would be insulted or hurt, but thankfully it seems this town did some major self reflection and it is no longer that way! Edit: Bless that couple for giving Carol refuge. It shows that not all of those born or living in those towns agreed with such sick racism! My parents taught me better than that and I taught my son better than that and now I will have grandchildren that I hope will live in a world where racism becomes a thing of the past.

[@kellidunn5655]

I also grew up in one of those towns. I think it's still predominantly white, but those who are non white do not get harassed, Thank God. I'm so glad that times have changed for I do have 3 biracial grankids.

[@kannot1]

@@kellidunn5655 There are still sundown towns all over USA, Canada and UK today😥💔👀

[@rdawg5939]

Hi Eleanor, please can you look into the case of Noah Donohoe, he was a 14 year old who was found dead in Belfast in 2020 under suspicious circumstances and his mother is fighting the police to get information surrounding his death. Despite the attempts to get attention for the current petition, lots of people have yet to hear about this case so a video about this would be really helpful!

[@natorieaiko9110]

I hope she sees this and covers the case ❤

[@ann-qj9qz]

@@natorieaiko9110 same

[@favrawr]

yes^^

[@shauneenmallon7053]

I'm from west Belfast where that poor child was from. I'm actually wearing his Jersey atm His mummy needs and deserves answers. I would say it deserves to be talked about but so much is being kept away that his own mummy can't even get. 1 thing I'd be certain of is when fiona does get justice it will bring this country to its knees because of the cover-up

[@shauneenmallon7053]

@Leon Gillihan oh no 😢 I'm so sorry to hear this about your sister. If you have that gut feeling follow it. I'm in no way related to noah or his family but the story just reeks of coverups and as you have family history in Belfast you'll know how the communities are divided(wish they wouldn't be) and how the police are viewed on both sides and in this case its showing more and more. I do still definitely think so much is being kept from his mummy fiona because it goes wayyyy up and this country will go mad when it does come out

[@ashleyburton3542]

This case kept me on the edge of my seat, thank you Eleanor for all the information you found on this case, that poor girl didn't deserve to die.

[@miloowens7382]

As someone who grew up in Indiana, the minute I heard you say "Martinsville, Indiana" I went "oh no" That place is still bad news

[@marias748]

Same exact thought .

[@olivesalad]

It was so undeserved so carol i feel so bad for her, He case should have never gone cold. Ive heard about her before. Thankyou for covering her case

[@AxxLAfriku]

Chill out, what ya yellin' for? Lay back, it's all been done before. And if you could only let it be, you will see that I am the funniest YouT*ber of all time. Admit it, my dear follow*r oli

[@TriciaMaria]

Agreed; it breaks my heart that this case ever went cold. It should not have.

[@21_f_aus]

There's so many I've never heard of but I'm Australian so most of these American cases I've never heard of unless I go looking online or watch documentaries on different cases...

[@Madisita]

This was all wild…. The sundown towns… the fact that the town harrassed and got mad at the couple who helped her. All backwards. I feel so bad for the victim and her family.

[@blacknoir4131]

What surprises me is she was outside after dark (8:30 PM). Sundown towns aren't just white only towns. They are towns that if a black person is caught outside after dark, they can be hung. A map was made by a man of color to help travelers avoid those areas. Those murders weren't solved. Today, less of those towns exist and they don't kill people after sundown anymore (not that I know of).

[@norah945]

@@blacknoir4131 that's just horrible

[@axtaxt8372]

SUNDOWN TOWNS STILL EXIST

[@jackiechun5817]

@axtaxt8372 it's ALL good til they try the WRONG one and get BODIED. You CAN'T possibly think you're just gonna run up on EVERYBODY and NOT get your wig pushed back eventually. Delusion is a helluva drug 👀😒😒😒

[@jordynvincent3071]

i love that your always so incredibly respectful and empathetic in your vids, THIS is what true crime reporting looks like!! love you eleanor

[@princesslea864]

The policeman who gave only a warning should also be jailed.

[@AngelDelight69]

What he did was correct. He never knew that they were going to murder her. And in real life if a guy or girl stalked another or catcalled the most they will give them is a warning. They can't really arrest them for that. The police officer did the right thing. He let them off with a warning. That's appropriate to do. In his eyes, he saw these as little creepy and horny individuals. He could not physically perform an arrest just based on that, If they had touched her fair enough but the police officer couldn't legally do an arrest even today they would give a warning.

[@iija5238]

@@AngelDelight69 The stalkers actually weren't the ones who later murdered her.

[@AngelDelight69]

@@iija5238 I guess thats a side effect of reading comments while listening

[@princesslea864]

@@AngelDelight69 cat calling is not the same as stalking tho. It's not normal that someone stalks you around. Also police is useless. So many true crime stories are about how many evidence people had that someone stalked them and police "couldn't do anything" and later they found women dead. A lot of "laws" just protect criminals. Like here where I live someone can break in to my apartment, try to k!ll me and they can sue me if I hurt them physically lmao... in some states of usa as I know you can shoot a person who breaks in and tries to harm you. This was a bit off topic but just one of many examples how laws just help criminals and not victims.

[@humanbeeing4780]

For…. What, exactly? What law did they break, besides offending you?

[@julzjalo7761]

“They were saying some awful horrible men things” I laughed at this but I also felt bad because it’s horrible how normalized catcalling, sexual harassment, and sexual assault is today. I can say (I’m 17 turning 18 soon) that I’ve been catcalled by GROWN MEN since I was 12 when I would walk home from school, a time I didn’t even hit PUBERTY. I was a CHILD. And guess what? It was every day. And it still happens so often. I understand my womanly parts are apparent and kinda hard to hide, but a woman can be walking down the street with baggy clothes and get catcalled. And it’s NORMAL. Like I’m used to this and so are so many girls and women. It’s the same with social media, with the unsolicited images i and many woman receive. I get them so often, I delete social media. Men cannot keep it in their pants and nobody is trying to change this in the law. Awareness is being raised online, but nobody is doing anything. Unbelievable. And carol probably had it 20x worse back then as a young and beautiful black woman. I feel so bad for her and all black women who have had similar experiences. I love your videos!

[@leavemealone7108]

Smh I'm sorry you went through that I hope your ok 🙏🏻 💙

[@SmoshBaby2468]

It is truly sad. I realised something quite scary recently that I have experienced more cat calling and verbal harassment when I was under the age of 18. Since I hit 18 its lessened and bare in mind I have always looked younger than my actual age, and these GROWN MEN are hitting on a 14 year old and yet I looked 12??? 🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩

[@rme1383]

Yeah happened to me a lot of times. I remember once I was in a crowded bus and some one touched my personal area I tried to release my self but he was so strong and I didn't know whose hand it was. All I could do was screaming so loudly until he let go. It was 6pm and rush hour and I was just 17.

[@kdizzle901]

All men think about sex all the time but some are actually good people and can hold it in

[@imani7979]

@@SmoshBaby2468 100%, when I was 15-17 I was openly ogled by grown ass men a lot more then than I am now that I'm 18 going on 19 next month. I have a feeling that the men that still do prolly think I'm younger than I look :/

[@nerdoseven332]

My heart dropped when you said Sundown town. I remember when I first read about those when learning about racism in the USA, it's absolutely horrific that people could be so openly intensely racist that whole towns or suburbs proudly advertised it. I can't help but feel a little bit angry at the people who maybe knowingly sent a young black person to sell encyclopedias in that area.

[@nicoleKerry23]

The whole of South Africa was basically a sundown town during Apartheid. People would have passes and if they were in a certain area after dark without a pass, they'd be arrested or probably worse

[@princesswilson5144]

Exactly even another young black girl. I guess they figured oh it’s day time they’ll be ok idk just heartbreaking

[@TriciaMaria]

My coworker lives in a sundown town and it’s so scary for her. This is a very real thing with very real fear attached to it. So so sad.

[@Anime_no_joō]

They had a sundown town in an episode of Love Craft Country.

[@TriciaMaria]

@M B yes; sadly.

[@mandieam]

I was born and raised in Martinsville. I didn't hear of this story until I was an adult. This is so heart breaking!

[@Liv-bp7qr]

One thing that i love about Eleanor's videos is that the video isnt based on the life of the murder but the victim the innocent life that was taken. A lot of people who make videos on these topics focus on the murders which causes people to kind of idolize them so i just really appreciate that.

[@imadethiscuziwsbored]

Sometimes. She has also done videos more recently that focused on the murderer… kinda disappointing tbh

[@Zombina638]

WhT ur saying is all wrong and just biases. So I suggest u get over it

[@Zombina638]

@@imadethiscuziwsboredgirl bye womp womp

[@jordanhelaine]

@@imadethiscuziwsbored she normally goes into detail of both. she (usually) only focuses on the murderer if it’s a spree/serial killer as going into equal detail on each victim would make the video not only impossible to make but also 6 hours long. she still tries though

[@Kenyaraae]

it’s sad how much we still don’t know about the black lives that were lost in these sundown towns. it effects so many of us even to this day. i wasn’t even surprised they didn’t even name her in articles or reports. my grandmothers birth certificate doesn’t even say black for her race just the n word. it’s insane to think how these things aren’t even that long ago and can continue when we’re supposed to be more open and have laws in place.

[@Msubulldogs09]

The fact that sundown towns existed, and that there are still some people with that mindset is scary. It's sad that happened to Carol, and that they wrote what they did on your grandmother's birth certificate. Glad this case was finally solved, but not that it took so long.

[@mumtazamiri6409]

Because black is a color, not a race. Back then, if I remember correctly, calling someone black was considered the "n" word. It was very offensive and a no no to refer to someone by their color - red, brown, yellow, black, etc. Can't judge the actions of people back then based on the values of today.

[@ayybibi]

@Mumtaz Amiri would “african-american” help?

[@keshaestevan3623]

@@mumtazamiri6409 what are you talking about?

[@shennarice5749]

N word on your granny’s birth certificate? That’s a damn shame, the fckn audacity...smdh

[@nobody8328]

Oh, Elenore. You're such a kind person. The reason it took 2 hours to get medical attention for Carol is that she wouldn't have been allowed in the 'white' hospital, unless they had a separate area and staff for 'colored folk'. Since that's pretty unlikely in a sundown town, she would have been taken to the nearest facility that would see her. And by nearest, I mean many miles.

[@HoneyBee-br6hi]

Where did you read that? Like she said the police was called first before the ambulance.

[@nobody8328]

@@HoneyBee-br6hi I didn't read it, I lived it. That's how sundown towns worked. Edit to add- that's also why the teen called the cops instead of an ambulance. Because that's how sundown towns worked.

[@camellia8625]

Thank-you for sharing your lived experience with regards to this case. Extremely helpful

[@samroberts82]

Elenore really is a sweetheart. I was waiting for her to mention the "white" hospital bit but I'm sure she didn't know.

[@nobody8328]

@@samroberts82 it amazes me that someone who researches brutal murders for a living can still be so very innocent. But since Elenore isn't American, I guess I can understand why she isn't familiar with the real horrors of racism here. Her genuine naivety at the cops 'not seeming to care about this young woman' makes me feel several different types of ways. It galls me that things like segregated hospitals and the general attitude of whites back then are being forgotten, and makes me want to hack out an entire dissertation right here in the comments. 😞 There is a lot more to this story, and it's so, so much worse than a lot of people seem to realize 😢💔

[@leviworshipper6290]

I still doesn’t understand why racism is still a thing now, when we know better and was better educated. To think that some people still think that disgracing someone because of the difference in their skin color is just simply disgusting. Rest in peace, Carol

[@jackiechun5817]

Until they cross the WRONG one and get "dealt with"... unmercifully 👀😒😒😒

[@chelsea-t]

Bless Norma and Don for sheltering Carol, good on Shirley's sister in-law for writing the letter and call. Shame on the towns police work at the time. RIP Carol 💖

[@PHlophe]

i think what helped this was because Shrilee had fallen out with her dad and she revealed the tea 2 decades later. had she been on good terms with him. she could have kept quiet.

[@heatherpetunia7778]

This is horrendous. Sundown towns, racism, any kind of hatred should not be existing. Things need to change. We all bleed the same and are all created beautifully. RIP Carol. I am deeply sorry and saddened this disgusting crime even happened. May you be at peace.

[@Elizabeth-fp7os]

Get over it it was the 60 s. Now it's anti white

[@abbysaxon1643]

As someone who’s also from the small town of Rushville (the town Carol lived in after her mother married Paul Davis, attended high school in, and is buried in), it’s so surreal seeing this case covered on a true crime channel for millions of people to see. Carol’s story is so heartbreaking, but you did an amazing job covering it. Thanks, Eleanor!!❤️❤️ Edit: Martinsville did place and dedicate a memory stone for Carol in 2017!

[@hollyleehenry2766]

I grew up going to the horse auctions in Rushville almost every weekend. I'm from a small farming community in Ohio. It makes me feel nauseated to think of the racism in the communities throughout Ohio and Indiana.

[@sarahbaggott673]

SUCH a heavy case☹it's somewhat comforting to know that she found people to help her when she needed them. The fact that the police failed to do basic things to protect her - a warning isn't enough and it clearly WASN'T enough. This poor poor girl😮‍💨

[@janewayofchaos3255]

Really puts into perspective how prevalent racism in America is... That wasn't even 50 years ago, meaning the people who lived in those sundown towns are still alive today.... Such a sad heartbreaking case....

[@angiesol19]

Hate to break it to you but sundown towns are still very much a thing.

[@janewayofchaos3255]

@@angiesol19 your not wrong. Sadly.

[@periodtpoo3031]

Sundown towns are all over the united states!

[@darladawn1111]

Depends on how old they were in the 60's. My mom was born in 1956 so she wouldn't have been very old in the 60's. Anyone who was 30 in 1960 would be would be 92 now so I have a feeling many are probably dead, if not most, are probably dead or on their way out.

[@wigglemelon8807]

@@darladawn1111 so...? The KKK is very much still a thing. So are sundown towns and many other racist atrocities that people seem to think just magically disappeared after the Civil Rights Movement

[@annageracoulis]

Eleanor, believe it or not there are still technically sundown towns in certain places in the US. Oprah actually did a special many years ago where she visited one

[@joujud6308]

What? The world really is a sad place 😔

[@CathysWorld383]

Yep. They are still a thing to this day. And Lynching is too. Lynching only became recognized as a crime in the USA THIS YEAR. 2022. We still have a long way to go. Sundown towns should be illegal.

[@shakairakaira]

Yup unfortunately in smaller souther cities some still exist

[@jesileigh]

@@shakairakaira Oregon, too. Racism is still alive and well all over the place, but the racists in the US have been very emboldened thanks to our previous "president" and his BS.

[@A_Little_Bit_Of_Everything06]

I live in texas and I believe there actually is a sundown town a few hours from my town which is terrifying

[@monayuki]

I actually live in what used to be a “sundown town” and it makes me feel disgusted that this is a part of our history. We’ve come a long way in the face of racism here in America but not far enough, it’s honestly really embarrassing.

[@Msubulldogs09]

My family is from a sundown area (more than just one town), and there are still some people with that mindset there, unfortunately, it is an ugly legacy to have, but grateful that it is changing.

[@wigglemelon8807]

Not really. Certain things just aren't openly legal.

[@mumtazamiri6409]

Don't be embarrassed for other people's actions. As long as *you* try to be a good and just person to the best of your abilities and teach good values, morals and integrity to your children and others around you, it's good enough. There will always be people with a different mindset because that's what they are taught or rather, brainwashed with. Do not carry the baggage of your ancestors' sins, break the chain and stay blessed 🙏

[@shennarice5749]

Embarrassing and Sick AF

[@IwaChansSpike]

As someone who lives in the state of Indiana, this case makes even me disgusted at the amount of racism that took place in my own hometown/state

[@brendapadgett4864]

She was just a baby. She was obviously going on to be a productive member of society with a bright future. Killed all because of HATE…hate bc she was a different skin color. This literally breaks my heart. God Bless Norma & Don. What beautiful souls for trying to help that sweet girl.

[@dragonfriott]

Thank you for covering cases like these. Here in Texas we still have Sundown towns and I’ve actually encountered one before when traveling for school. And this is in 2022🤦🏽‍♀️

[@SarahAndTheFlora]

Wtf thats horrible 😡

[@b.brodie3021]

I've never even heard of a sundown town. Its crazy these still exist, and that we have to do serious racial research before taking trips to different cities, states and countries.

[@QueenRamenNoodz]

Sounds like vidor Tx

[@Bee-ly4gx]

Oh my that’s horrific. It makes me feel embarrassed to be white. Racism should never ever, ever have existed never mind still exist. Nobody should ever feel ashamed, embarrassed or any other negative emotions about something they can’t change about themselves.

[@suzannelee4686]

Oh my goodness! I’d never heard of them so took to google to see if they still exist.. that’s absolutely shocking 😢

[@princessashley6784]

As someone from Texas who now lives in Indiana, I often say “Indiana wants to be southern so bad.” It amazes me how many confederate flags I see flown daily, how frequently I witness racism, and how conservative it is up here. Coming from Texas, I expected the south to be worse.

[@JordanWilliams-ix2td]

I'm black, My brother went to Purdue University & GIRL! the stories he told me 🤯 My family asked him has he experienced racism there & his reaction told it all. He stopped what he was doing & looked at us like FUCK YES! What kind of dumb question is that? He was so offended & triggered 🤣 When Obama won in 2008 he said LITERALLY all the black students stayed in that night. They couldnt even turn up like that in public our go out b/c they knew what was up. You couldve not even voted for Obama but ur black sooooo. Purdue has this area dedicated to black history, there's a significant tree there & someone carved "NIGGER" in the tree. People will look at the black student's like "how did you get in, thats crazy" they all knew what that really ment. we're from South Florida so it was kinda shocking but not really. We were blessed to have it both ways growing up around EVERYONE & Some bomb ass, pure amazing, loving, Chill white people who really riding with & love us black folk. If they don't like u it's *GENUINELY* not b/c ur black, They hung around around you & just can't stand you & be more mad when white people are racist then us. We see yall & love yall for that 🥰 Alot of The white people we grew up around were built different lol but best believe we know what & experience racism, micro aggressions, racial profiling as well. At the end of the day, we're black & everyone see's color. my brother's Indiana experience was shocking because we expect you to hide the racism not be proud of it lol at 18 My brother quickly realized he wasn't in Florida anymore & couldn't wait to get the fuck out of Indiana

[@lolawinewinelola]

Wow I know plenty black conservative people from there

[@evemichaels3060]

Yes, I moved to Indiana from the west coast. Racism is horrible here and my whole street is lined with confederate flags. I'm half native and have been told to go back to Mexico more than once.

[@katiemartinez5490]

Conservative does not equal racist

[@Mad-yc1eo]

Cases like these are the reason I’m doing a policing and investigations degree

[@imariwalker7248]

This is terrifying… especially since there’s sundown towns that STILL exist.. makes me terrified to travel if I was just passing through

[@KoriJami]

I live in Indianapolis this case has always bothered me . I actually work as a traveling nurse at a martinsville nursing home and I’m happy to say that everyone I’ve met there have been really sweet and nice sundown towns still exist sadly and I still get nervous making that drive out there . Anyways Eleanor thanks for covering I see you losing a lot of weight girrrl show out then !

[@healthylife2988]

Courtney Jones, I am not being paranoid but honest be very careful I those places, for your own safety please try and find a different place to go to. Do not ever trust those people. Things don't change as much as we think and hope

[@asmrtpop2676]

@@healthylife2988 A traveling nurse goes to the destination of their patients. It’s not as simple as just avoiding the town from the sound of it. 😔

[@aj32769]

We must live quite close to one another. Thank you for being a nurse. It’s a hard job and you’re not thanked or appreciated nearly enough

[@destinyharris2916]

I live in Indianapolis and was a caregiver for Kenneth and his brother at Lynhurst Healthcare. I will never forget this story and the many stories Kenneth told me now are haunting🤧 He loved black people and even had a Blk girlfriend at one point in his life. There’s so much I could say, but it hurts he befriended myself and many more hiding the truth inside.. 🤧

[@fabievillaruel6077]

Huge respect to the couple who helped Carol and her family. It takes courage to do that especially while living in that hell like neighborhood.

[@sarahbarnes1633]

Thanks for doing this story. I am glad that she isn't forgotten in the public.

[@VividFlames]

I'm black and I live in Indiana. Before I was born, my mom was dating and had a child (My older sister) with a man who was working on becoming a police officer. This was in the 80's. He was still in the Academy and was not yet considered an officer. He was afraid of some of the police officers because most of them were white and not very nice to him to begin with. In around 1987, he was shot and killed by an officer while acting out an academy scenario of an irate tenate (played by my moms boyfriend). In the statements, it says it was an "accident" but considering he never felt comfortable there to begin with, my mom always believed otherwise. The man who shot him wasn't a rookie cop by any means, he had been a cop for about 14 years and should have known to check if the gun was loaded or not. Apparently, he left to fuel a vehicle and because of that he loaded his gun and when he got back for the scenario FORGOT to unload it. I'm unsure if it is protocol for an officer to load their gun to fuel a vehicle but it doesn't sound quite necessary to me.

[@quicksilverlacey]

Sounds very suspicious & likely premeditated to get rid of that man. I'm sorry for your family's loss.

[@de5072]

I could see a need to have a loaded weapon but that should've been smart enough to unload it once back ag the academy... if it wasn't premeditated

[@jamericanrebel]

I’m a cop, I can tell you now. They murdered him in cold blood. That’s no mistake ma’am.

[@elizabethgraceb]

this happened in my hometown. people tried to get some kind of memorial put into the courthouse (basically town hall) for her a couple years ago, and they wouldn’t allow it. the racism in that town is alive and well.

[@heyjude6680]

has anyone made their own memorial for her??

[@elizabethgraceb]

@@heyjude6680 i've never seen a memorial in our town for her, i could be wrong but it's really not talked about ever :(

[@Zenythycat]

I actually felt sick and started crying when she got attacked. I can’t understand the motive, she was a lovely lady and bless those who helped her. May she rest in peace.

[@-KMA-]

Bless Paul Davis for being that father for Carol and never giving up and Connie/Shirley for coming forward for Carol

[@shamiyamarshay4657]

It’s sad that sun down town’s exists and they still exist in some places now🤦🏾‍♀️and most the people that went missing in those areas bodies were never found so their families had to bury empty caskets🥺

[@shauna9419]

I live in Northern California and we have a few sundown towns up here.

[@astrowolvez]

@@shauna9419jesus

[@crystalbutler659]

@@shauna9419 Where??

[@shauna9419]

@@crystalbutler659 Placerville. To be fair they did remove the noose from the City’s seal in 2021 so there are people trying to change. But from personal experience we always make sure to pass through during the day on the way to Tahoe now. I am a transplant so I found out the hard way about that town and surrounding towns up here.

[@Raaaaven]

The fact that she was just a few years younger than my grandparents just makes me shudder at the lives they lived in their twenties. How scary it must’ve been at that time and they all lived in Michigan, which also had sundown towns.

[@JMac7395]

Carl Jenkins's murder had a bittersweet resolution. At least Carol's parents & siblings got a chance to see the face of the demon that took her life. One thing I'm curious about is what happened to Carol's 3 coworkers? Why were they late? Did they ever show up to the meet up spot? Did they encounter any danger too?

[@moondivine2288]

I was curious about one of the coworkers. I know there was another black woman among them and I was scared for her too. The other two coworkers would probably be fine because they were white.

[@jessmagoa]

I don’t think that bittersweet is the right word, implies that there was something sweet about it. Probably relieved.

[@j04370859]

Bittersweet? They got away with it. Also, even if the killer had been sent to prison and wasn't dying, he was an old man and didn't have that long left anyway.

[@Haley783]

I would love to see you cover the Lacey fletcher case. The story about the girl who literally melted into the couch because her parents starved her there

[@BritneyAlise]

It’s so impressive you can research and tell these stories so well. My grandfather killed my grandmother, and I’ve always wanted to try to figure out the story but don’t even know where to start. It’s just mad that you do it so well💛

[@PHlophe]

Girl did he not murder her instead ? because its a big difference there

[@marmaladegirI]

I want to acknowledge Carols bravery for seeking help in a town that’s known for being racist but thank God for the sweet couple who genuinely cared for her safety. She could’ve knocked on the first door and be met with someone who would refuse to let her stay seriously bless the couple n I hope Carol continue to rest peacefully while those 2 men rot in hell including the racist people supporting them.

[@crystolslimbracey]

I just really appreciate this girl. For speaking the truth and the many other youtubers who cover stories about racism, without holding any punches. Much love from Michigan!

[@brileigheubanks1807]

this case is so heartbreaking. I’m not really sensitive when it comes to listening to your videos but this one really had me in tears.

[@cor289]

whenever eleanor talks about the early (happy) lives of the victims it's always heartbreaking because you know what comes next😢😢

[@yu-bj1he]

She was so beautiful, and she seemed so eager, trusting, and full of life... It makes me so sick that anyone could judge others only by their skin

[@parkershepherd2567]

I used to live in a town near Martinsville, IN. It’s still racist, and it’s still a “sundown” town, but all that will happen now is you’ll get a ticket. I’ve avoided Martinsville purely because of how racist and disgusting most of the people in the town are. I’m glad Carol got ~some~ form of justice, but I’m not surprised at how the police handled it and the response to the memorial.

[@promethous7773]

Your spot on I live in martinsville and my nephew is black he tells me nasty things people tell him and he is ok with it because he is use to it that is really sad.

[@azeller]

So tragic. RIP Carol. She deserved so much better. I'm glad there are people like Don and Nora in this world.

[@bre.kafka13]

Go Norma and Don for not backing down and knowing they did the roght thing. This case I'd so sad. Carol deserved justice right then and there when it happen. The way her case was handle os so sad.

[@aleesharenea1477]

Racism back then was so bad they didn't care about anything about Black people. Racism still exists it's just more that can be done about it now.

[@mamasgun21]

Norma and Don are the genuinely decent people you would hope would be the ones your daughter would encounter if she were ever in trouble. They did it because they saw her as a girl in danger and knew it was the right thing to do, even if it was socially unacceptable. You were too good for that town, Norma and Don. I wish she took Norma up on her offer to stay the night. 😩 My heavens, this is such a terrible story. I’m just grieved for the loss of this lovely girl for absolutely no real reason at all.

[@kendylhoward2669]

Eleanor is simply my go to murder podcast listener case reader whatever she’s amazing I fucking love her voice I love how she explains it to me she just is simply amazing lots of love from America!

[@armygirl85fuckhitler74]

Same as well! I love learning about their culture. I've learned a lot like what is a till and a boot of car haha. You should try That Chapter with my guy Mike he's Irish and does true crime. He says tree instead of 3 so us Americans are getting culture watching true crime😂

[@hollyleehenry2766]

I love Eleanor and That Chapter with Mike!! Better Off Red is awesome too, Sarah is great!

[@kendylhoward2669]

@@armygirl85fuckhitler74 I’ll definitely have to go find this mike guy! Sounds awesome!

[@holleyb1856]

This will stay with me for the rest of my life . That poor woman and family. Goodness , this is heart breaking through and through.

[@lisacolborne]

This poor girl! I cannot even imagine how scared she was that day! The people who took her in are great people! It is very very sad to me to hear some of these stories and find out that we have so much farther to go to stop racism! I cant even imagine how much trauma her family went thru to find out who did this, but he died before he could be prosecuted! He deserved to spend the rest of his life behind bars, but, instead the family gets no justice whatsoever. They cannot even put up a memorial for her. Just another kick in their hearts which is so, so sad! I am sure she knows what a great family she had and that they were doing everything they could to bring someone to justice for her death. My heart goes out to her family!

[@samanthaM7119]

Could you imagine just how bad Norma and Don felt after finding out? They knew she wasn’t safe, tried to keep her safe and even offered a bed for the night and that same day her being killed I think I’d be a wreck thinking she would’ve lived if she stayed

[@thekendrashow]

As a black female who was also born in the Midwest, this is scary to hear about. Yes, racism is everywhere but I didn’t know it was that bad back in the day up here in the Midwest like it was in the southern states. May Carol rest peacefully with the other angels.

[@sammorgan9334]

Sundown towns still exist, even in the Midwest, though they try harder now to hide their dark nature. Jelani Day was killed in one last year, in Peru, Illinois.

[@thekendrashow]

@@sammorgan9334 I heard about his case but never knew Peru, IL was a sundown town.

[@sidneyjayyy]

Racism has been severe all over this country since the literal beginning.

[@kyleighwhite1409]

They were everywhere except the south because whites in the south wanted the black men and women to do the “dirty” jobs.

[@whoome1638]

@@thekendrashow they make sure to hide their intentions. Their hoping that people will come their so they can attack them.

[@hypernovaxs8756]

I hate listening to videos like this one around racism because it’s so scary to think that back then and even now people were so filled with hatred of others simply for the color of their skin, and they’re willing to kill over it. I really hope that our world and the people inside of it start to do better because this is just vile. Thank you Eleanor for covering these topics because they need to be heard.

[@kinnydoll7027]

its so heartbreaking how they dropped her case within 2 weeks, poor girl that is absolutely sick. she deserved sm better from the beginning

[@JewelsWenyaa]

Sending her to Martinsville was setting her up for murder 😭 All odds were against poor Carol! Love your content Eleanor. I enjoy you from here in Kenya. 🇰🇪

[@lizw.4901]

Such a tragic story. Carol seemed to be a beautiful, lovely young lady. So sad that she experienced the terror she must have felt before her death and her terrible loss of life. Bless her.