Muscle Cars Banned from Houston Car Meet (The Roman Report)

[@MrScottyBCollects]

1:19 How about "Times New Roman"?

[@timothywing8604]

Okay... that's better than my idea.

[@dxps26]

Dodge Calibri

[@fila1445]

that's a latest Queens of the stone age album :P

[@gstorhof1]

New Times Roman

[@jeraldjoyce2995]

New Roman Times

[@sctpoch]

I suspect that what'll happen at C&C Houston will be more or less what happened when my local car meet did the same thing: the modern muscle cars and rice rockets will just post up in an empty parking lot across the street and have their own car meet, with blackjack and hookers.

[@2steaksandwiches665]

Where is this show? Asking for a friend… cough

[@Lui5_torre5]

Matter of fact, forget the car meet!

[@Poorgeniu5]

Yup, I heard about that unoffical H2O car meet that caused the deaths of two people.... These clout chasers will do anything....

[@mindinversions4487]

aaaahhhhhhh.... forget the blackjack.

[@shortstories3349]

can't really do that, considering the POST has nowhere to park anywhere around the premises. (That I can recall). Though it wouldn't be surprising that they would make their own elsewhere.

[@montysport94]

The Houston C&C lost their Vintage Park venue because of some kid in a Genesis Coupe lost control and hit a tree. A separate event lost their Towne Lake venue because some kid spun out and hit a curb trying to show off their moms Tahoe. Seems like if anything they should ban participants under 25, or ban the crowd at the exit with their phones out waiting to catch the next viral crash.

[@boyracer3477]

I would say they should get three responsible guys from the club. Interview anyone who wants to bring their car to future meets telling them the rules. Give them a pass that is permanent based on their behavior. If they act out, take away the pass.

[@michaelzepeda5785]

I remember the tahoe one. Think he almost hit a pole 💀. He went into the grass too.

[@invalidaccount2315]

we need to ban under 25 from a lot more than car meets, can we start with the tech world, every piece of tech they touch they mess up with their know it all attitude which trancends into hiring and recruiting to the point where us serious engineers seriously dont want anything to do with the industry.

[@SparkZ1420]

Pontiac guys sneaking into Houston C&C like 👀

[@RollinRetro99]

PONTIAC MENTIONED RAAAAHHHHHHHH, WHAT THE FUCK IS HAVING CARS IN PRODUCTION🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🦅🦅🦅🦅

[@updog4L]

Callaway owners too I imagine

[@spyderf16]

I haven't really seen any GTO or G8 drivers being utter dipshits around Houston, but I think anyone buying rebadged Holdens is a different kind of buyer compared to the typical muscle car owner.

[@panzerfaust5046]

@@RollinRetro99 ALL THREE PONTIAC ENTHUSIANTS, UNITE

[@SparkZ1420]

@@spyderf16 👈 I'm one of those guys

[@House_of_Schmidt]

They really should prevent crowds from gathering around the exits and entrances to these meets.

[@nathanchildress5596]

You can’t legally ban people standing on the sidewalk, but you can ban assholes doing burnouts.

[@House_of_Schmidt]

@@nathanchildress5596 the police can legally ban people from standing on the sidewalk.

[@magnusthereddidnithingwrong]

@@House_of_SchmidtThe police could ticket people for doing burnouts or speeding through the parking lot.

[@RogueCowTurd]

@@House_of_Schmidt "we're waiting for our friend to come and pick us up, fuck off officer"

[@nathanchildress5596]

@@House_of_Schmidt Only if the sidewalk falls within the private event, otherwise you have a right to be there, and film, and get killed by Mustangs. Just ban the cars who are a problem, it's less messy and no one goes to car shows to look at modern muscle anyway, you can see enough of them on your commute

[@fenixlolnope361]

banning american muscle from a texas car show is like banning hamburger meat from mcdonalds

[@666cemetaryslut]

Modern muscle is like the McRib, it keeps coming around even though seemingly no one likes it.

[@jsimmonstx]

They banned hamburger meat from McDonald's decades ago.

[@drdremd]

Do t worry, there’s no meat in McDonalds patties.

[@alexbarn3841]

@@666cemetaryslutmodern muscle is objectively better in every possible way than classic muscle. Classic cars are dogshit

[@666cemetaryslut]

@@alexbarn3841They drive better but no one cares about them, they are regular traffic.

[@deltacharlieecho4732]

This is a great way to end off the month. I’m currently working on finding both a reliable work car and my next e36/e46 project car and you are the only automotive channel that doesn’t make me feel like a loser for not also having them. If you do this series consistently, I think “And that’s what I think about that” is the most fitting sign off for your combination of content and personality. You speak frankly and unabashedly and that line just seems to pair with the style perfectly.

[@맛집101]

Im surprised that this was the Muscle car scene and not the 350/370z + infinit scene.

[@2steaksandwiches665]

Those guys are typically working at the vape shop when the show happens

[@angelgjr1999]

Meh the VQ will bend a rod before any torque is made

[@RAD-RC]

It's cars and coffee. The muscle car owners have jobs and can wake up for a cars and coffee event. Those guys are the midnight racers.

[@2steaksandwiches665]

@@RAD-RC lot of boomers own muscle cars and they sleep in due to age

[@maskedbugman]

Cause it's Texas, every drives challengers, 2500s, Camaros, f-150 and Silverados.

[@RichardFraser-y9t]

Suspensions were not lifted, they were lowered.

[@AdiDoinStuff]

Well done

[@Grogzu]

"classic" is when the owner cares about their cars enough not to do burnouts and revs. (Bonus points for mentioning the Hawthorne Effect).

[@WhitefolksT]

Naked Dennis Gage bussin in his own hat in the back seat. That's who doesn't do burnouts in a muscle car.

[@testcrit701]

What's the Hawthorne effect?

[@Grogzu]

@@testcrit701 Roman explains it in the video quite well. Better than my professors in management science did.

[@HAL-dm1eh]

That can still be anyone though.

[@TwoDollarGararge]

The muscle car is built to get beat on and destroyed if your looking for that go get some luxobarge cruiser

[@heikkiremes5661]

Anything pre-1999 is a classic. Quarter of a century is the cutoff.

[@flamestoyershadowkill]

Some people use classic to refer to carbirated cars. If it is fuel injection it is not classic

[@thejay8963]

​@flamestoyershadowkill6400 Those people are wrong. Ever heard of a TR6 with Lewis fuel injection? Not a modern car. How about the Mercedes 300SL's fuel injection? Definitely nothing but a classic.

[@angelgjr1999]

New Edge Mustang is classic now ❤

[@ItsJustaMeNow]

I think it should be any car over 30 years, right? a 20 year old car is just old. Kinda how the 60s/70s care were just old in the 80s, but now they're hot.

[@Nick-ue7iw]

@@ItsJustaMeNow 25 years is the standard set by the NHRA and is generally accepted as the cutoff.

[@e30ogPlayground]

Thumbs up for Roman

[@-fuk57]

Up, up!

[@snakeeyes7973]

No u

[@Spazilton1]

No, its total BS. I as a responsible Mustang Owner in my mid 40s that doesn't do stupid stuff, am now banned and can't attend these events because of the actions of a bunch of stupid kids.

[@takcleberry]

@@Spazilton1he’s only making the video, he’s not the coordinator of Houston cars & coffee or (hope not) the owners doing burnouts

[@vapsa56]

In my town of Cary NC, this problem was solved with an entrance fee for all attendees for the car owners to the event organizers. A portion of that fee was then goes to the town to pay for police presence at the event to prevent burnouts and bad behavior. Yes, it has echoes of Mafia protection, extortion money, and of a police state. But we have no bad behavior or burnouts from attendees now. It is a shame that a few bad people always, ALWAYS, ruin it for everyone else.

[@yungfella8474]

Classic example of bottom quartile law

[@Kalkas53]

Look at what's happened to Daytona bike week

[@christopherscott3120]

What event are you referring to? I'm heavily into the Triangle car scene and I don't think I've been to an event in Cary since the Echo Park C&C shut down last year. Cary has the reputation of being the most unfriendly town to car events of any in the area.

[@3404demon]

Our local CofC has talked about this, what has come up is the real problems haven't been these banned cars and many times its not even the participants. People driving by have acted stupid. Last year they had a local police officer there who didn't do anything but block exiting traffic. This year they will have a sheriff. We'll see how that goes.

[@touayaaj84]

Not going to lie, when i was stationed at fort bragg, i frequent the Morrisville C&C a lot.

[@jimmynickelz]

Just moistened the algorithm

[@misterdarkcloud2384]

a porshe 918 crashed at our local cars and coffee and either seriously injured or killed someone a few years back. It could be anybody.

[@andrewmaximo4485]

Statistically, it will probably be an altama or Silverado that isn't at the car show.

[@chrissellshomes150]

Correct. It could be "anybody", but we all know who it is typically......

[@scottjs5207]

@@chrissellshomes150 RWD cars with enough torque to spin the tires? That Includes Supras, BMWs, Vettes and even exotics but yeah, I know the one's people like to point out because of how many exist.

[@magnusthereddidnithingwrong]

Yo, I'd love to get a regular editorial vid like this on car news. This sort of informative stuff is really in Roman's wheelhouse like with the excellent RCR Car Stories series, and it's absolutely fine for him to give an opinion on current events as well.

[@beverlyhillbilly7914]

This type of behavior is everywhere. Here in NorCal it could come from any type of owner, driving any type of car, at any type of event. And there’s always a crowd big enough egging it on. This whole problem is a deeper car culture problem than most will admit. People love seeing it, no matter how it ends. Social media gets so moist over it. It got to the point where I decided to currently not engage with my local car scene in any way. And that’s sad, because I do miss it. I can’t be the only person deciding this because of a potential bad situation. I feel that car enthusiasts coming to this decision is almost worse than the ones causing problems, or these blanket bans that come across as lazy and reactive at best. The people causing problems will always want to come back. Quiet people who behave and want no drama may not. Maybe we can’t have nice things?

[@shakyjake2133]

Couldn't have phrased this better myself. Very well put.

[@Nick-ue7iw]

It's not just cars. You cant have a nice event ANYWHERE now without some jackass misbehaving and ruining things. So many people out there are desperate for attention, and society has been trained to not stand up and tell the sore thumbs to get f**ked.

[@JollyGiant19]

Too many people wanting to play out the original version of Let’s Get It Started with their car

[@mrfoohy11]

I appreciate this short-form opinion video essay from you. I think this type of video can compliment your RCR stories while also allowing smaller topics to have a moment in the light of Roman.

[@Ghostbustingjedi]

I've always wanted to own a Mustang, but I never fit in with the 'stang bro mentality. And now I'm too close to 40, for it to be considered anything but a midlife crisis.

[@skyraiser9]

It def is a midlife crisis-mobile. I am 41 and just bought one and have wanted to do so since I was a teen, though I got a Ecoboost with the High performance package, so enough to have fun but not a "real" mustang and I def dont fit the 'stang bro look. Heck, I got pulled over by a cop on the way to work 2 days after buying it to make sure I hadnt stolen it and when the officer saw me get out of the car he pretty much went "Oh, nvm, move along"

[@robertspadaro4329]

Get a vintage one. Then you'll be associated with driving it like a granny and being your exact age (or even older lol). They look better, too.

[@rickc303]

Imagine letting other's considerations dictate how you spend your money and enjoyment during time living

[@jinezawa7089]

Nah, you shouldn't care what other people think, get what you want. You're not spending your own money to get a car for other people to drive, you're spending it to get a car for YOU to drive. You start letting other people decide what you drive, then at the end of it the only thing that'll be "okay" to own is a corolla. Then you'll get blasted for being boring, old, and unimaginative. It ain't worth it

[@omniphoriusvcf907]

Just bought an 2014 s197 rag top. I know it's not the car people expect me to have, but it's actually a great car for a 49 year old who doesn't want to drive like an asshole. If you have a V6 and automatic, it's a great cruiser with light, old school American steering. The way to do midlife crisis is to not give a fuck. But you do have to get used to it...I see myself as more of a BMW e30 kind of guy, so it was an adjustment.

[@Thohean]

I went to a car meet a few weeks ago in Houston and this exact problem shut down the car meet. Cops came and told everyone to leave.

[@byronjones4635]

I agree with it. I’ve seen quite a few Arizona meets die from behavior such as this and it’s usually either modern muscle or early to mid 2000s Nissans. Unfortunately many drivers of those cars just don’t know how to respect other’s property

[@electrofreak0]

If I was running the show, I'd have cars sign up with info and a proper set of rules of conduct. Getting in would require you to submit info about your car such as make, model, color, plate #. Then if someone is being disruptive, you can identify that specific individual and revoke their ticket for future events (or give them temp. suspensions for first time offenders). Of course, the issue here is big corporations not wanting something bad to happen so they don't have bad PR associated with their name b/c that's all that really matters. They could care less if someone is hurt or killed, they just don't want that to be with their name stamped on the flag above it.

[@hendo337]

If they grew the event up, like Hot Rod Power Tour, Cleetus and Cars, Woodward Dream Cruise, LS Fest and held the event at a racetrack or huge stadium parking lot, they could set up one or more supervised events like an autocross, drift course, short drag strip or burnout box and there would be significantly less reason or temptation for anyone to act like a hooligan on the streets near the event, how can a bunch of people who are supposed to enthusiasts and companies that promote ownership of fast street cars expect people to not drive fast on the street, that is the most hipocritical thing I ever heard, if these were all illegal racecars being trailered there to only be shown that would be one thing, this is a celebration of fast street legal vehicles, grow up the event, make more money and give these people a designated place to show off and have fun. If the place where the event happens is against that, move it to somewhere that will accommodate it, the event certainly brings money to the businesses in the vicinity of the event selling fuel, food and so on its horse to say they don't and they need to accommodate the visitors and attendees, even if it means having police block off a section of a side road, setting up concrete barriers, wetting the road and letting people do a rolling burnie with supervision and relative safety, this Fudd attitude is disgusting and stupid.

[@ra0929]

Safety, perceived or otherwise, is usually going to be one of the top priorities for an event organizer. There is insurance needed to cover an event, the reputational risk for the organizers and sponsors, plus the litigious fallout if something were to happen.

[@gregoryholland6126]

But that would take effort and thought; can’t have that, gotta react

[@ElyDooo]

Honestly as a VQ owner i would support this even if/when this comes to my locale and they come for G/Z's. I mean, id just park somewhere away from the event and walk just to be able to still have these events at all

[@PenskePC17]

I dont understand why they're not putting out individual bans....oh, wait did you say Challengers? Nvmnd, I understand completely. We got to keep up those ratios for appearance sake.

[@PropaneTreeFiddy]

In Houston too, so yes

[@ROVA00]

Stereotypes are earned

[@expo4266]

I implore you to make more of these, this made my morning better.

[@MogoPrime]

Really loved this thinkpiece. Looking forward to more monthly Roman thoughts!

[@PintoPopProductions]

You guys attended my local cars and coffee (Blackhawk) several years ago. That show was a victim of its own success, growing until it started taking over the entire shopping center parking lot. Some of the businesses complained about parking, and some of the local Karens up the hill complained about noise. And one particularly famous incident involving an orange BMW that lost control into the median. Someone else organizes a cars and coffee now in a different location, much smaller, and on a Friday because they know that the old guys who are retired can attend it while dumb kids are at school or work. Blackhawk Museum still hosts car shows from time to time, but they are much more strict about it.

[@davyrando1203]

If it's invitational-only, it's no longer Cars & Coffee. It's now just another big car show. The whole point of Cars & Coffee is to be a more casual car show with a wider, non-gatekept variety of vehicles. Perhaps it is time for that car show to no longer be a C&C event.

[@tman1990]

Well the mustangs, cameros and challengers owners will just start their own events and not allow any of these other cars and coffee attendees.

[@thejay8963]

​@@tman1990 Yeah, it just becomes an arms race of pettiness, which is why I think the overall ban is ridiculous. If something goes down between disgruntled owners and the organizers next time they host it, I have to blame the organizers for banning an entire group and expecting it to play out well.

[@Modi_]

I could listen to roman talk about any topic for 4 hours and not be bored. Just like with james may, you articulate everything perfectly.

[@bryanthorne3474]

Good report Roman! I love mustangs and think they're a lot of fun. I'm sad and a little frustrated they've been banned, but can kinda understand because so many idiots seem to drive them and have no idea how to control them. I wonder if this policy will spread more widely in the car show world?

[@SerdarGrube]

Over here in Germany also many complain about burnouts. Going to a modern car meet complaining about that IS just nonsense. It's a ban of fun. 😂

[@JamesDeanYoungs]

This was really well said. I know it’s slightly off topic but here goes. I can totally understand why they did this because of a huge personal reason is probably gonna sound like a broken record. Last year a friend of mine suggested a local Jeep meetup called “ Jeep’s & Java”. I was a little reluctant to go because my 98 Cherokee is not exactly a pinup model and I’m a huge introvert. Nobody ragged on me about my faded trim pieces or paint chips but rather everyone that went welcomed me with open arms. There are few better sensations than that. There was one time that one of those meetups got me out of a big pit of depression I was in. I think that it’s completely understandable that the big 3 muscle cars were banned because when someone acts rowdy, they risk the future of that one car meet. That car meet I bet has guys like me who don’t have a lot of self-esteem, are shy, and are huge introverts where a car meet helps them breathe for a little while around fellow car enthusiasts. I hope you do more “Roman Reports” :)

[@CullodenCowboy]

This is why classic guys have our own meets and don’t let new car guys in. Often times they are totally different kinds of people who have unique cars for opposite reasons. I drive my little Falcon because it legitimately makes people smile, seems that new muscle guys get a messed hellcat to piss people off.

[@existinginaspace8347]

My 69 Falcon was loud, anoying, and slow. I loved pissing people off with it. Especially since I work night shift in a residential area and drove it to work. Make friends with the PD around you and you won't get noise complaints

[@CullodenCowboy]

@@existinginaspace8347 Oh mine is loud and slow, but it makes people excited not angry. I dunno when you owned yours but maybe there's a statute of limitations on when people decide a car is too old to be mad at.

[@Jaykwan88]

I will always like any rwd v8 from a 96 4.6 gt with fckd paint and an exhaust leak to 6 figure mondern day monsters...and I've taken some hideous Craigslist cars to shows as a younger me proud of myself...but imagine being parked next to thousands of way nicer cars and still thinking "they'll like me if I just full send it right now"

[@angelgjr1999]

People who rev up their engine and do burnouts are annoying. This is coming from someone with a modded V8 (most mods by previous owners.)

[@SkylerStMarie]

I really enjoyed Romans’s reports, I like that it talks about news involving the car scenes today

[@AdamG1983]

I love this channel: Roman's long form informative reports and Mr. Regular's "B R O W N", and *"HOT DICKS!"*

[@NothingTooSpiffy]

I’m from Houston. I attended the meet they banned them at, the next meet, a challenger decided to do it again. Some people here are dumb.

[@MrJommins]

Very cool I enjoyed the Roman report. And honestly, as far as car shows are concerned all you need is my family of dealerships. Screw the Astros! Sincerely, Joel, Kunkleman, Dealer Principal, Kunkleman Fiat / Mazda / Yugo.

[@zachfolts]

Who else wants an rcr stories on Tommy Fenstemacher

[@JesusGarcia-en3pj]

Cant stand Roman’s voice enunciating words like “nuanced” “digress” “purgatory”… or the entire middle English language. I just skip every Roman review. Except this report. I wanna know whats going on with Houston’s Cars & Coffee.

[@rogerwalnut]

I could listen to Roman talk about just about anything. This was great!

[@davidhaim89]

Safety issues aside, who wants to see a parking lot full of identical, almost-new mass-market cars, when there are plenty of interesting retros, custom builds, exotics and supercars filling the invitational lot? The sponsors know what they're doing! (Full disclosure: My '96 Buick Roadmaster Estate Wagon was accepted by Houston C&C for display on Retro Appreciation Day.)

[@seanmetzinger]

I stumbled upon a "car show" that had almost all new (2000s and newer) Mustangs, Camaros, and Challengers ... the only two cars that were different and had people surrounding them to look at them was a VW Thang and a DeLorean. Even the enthusiast around the modern muscle cars had that "Seen it, own it" attitude and were flocking to something different.

[@totalmetaljacket789]

Everyone wants to see something unique, whether they like to admit it or not. I'm the only local with a Baja bug and it always draws a ton of attention.

[@jackattack5928]

I thoroughly appreciate Roman’s even-handed approach to a this situation. Well-considered discussion of a contentious topic.

[@davidhein5045]

I appreciate the mix of reporting and discussion

[@nlpnt]

Definitely something to think about. With 9000 cars they don't have to worry about who else will show up, if anything it'll make the other stuff easier to see. And windows that don't go down all the way aren't a child-safety thing, they have to do with how much space in the door there is for the window to retract into with the rear wheelwell in the way.

[@totalmetaljacket789]

Personally I see it as a win. A line of 20 challengers that are effectively identical isn't exciting.

[@wykydytron]

And line of 20 identical bmw, Hondas or whatever is?

[@totalmetaljacket789]

@@wykydytron No.

[@Kinann]

Hot Rod TV takes some responsibility for this by popularizing doing ridiculous burnouts for the sake of being idiots.

[@Pixels_And_Petrol]

Just want to give my two cents this is very enjoyable and it's great listening material when I'm driving

[@oldgranite6467]

How about "All Roads Lead to Roman"?

[@theothertonydutch]

I downloaded NFS2: SE and I have never felt more connected to the universe.

[@billymercury3897]

Hell Yeah, Classic NFS

[@RM61827]

There is a completely unorganized meet in Rancho Santa Fe (Uber-rich suburb north of San Diego) that happens every Saturday morning, hundreds of people show up and there is literally zero organizing body involved which is likely the only reason the old ladies haven’t shut it down yet. I attend and I’ve personally seen several multi-million dollar vintage Ferraris, 300SL Gullwings, 1920’s coachbuilt cars like Packards, Porsche 959’s, every flavor of 911 you could ever imagine, hell Doug DeMuro personally shows up a lot of the time in his Carrera GT. Yeah we have some bad actors but they typically get the evil eye from those in attendance. It proves it can be done even without big-money sponsorship and I think letting in corporate money is making a deal with the devil, sooner or later there’s a catch when their interests conflict with yours.

[@carpespasm]

Yeah guys, it can happen anywhere. As long as the only people for miles are millionaires preening for one another and you're surrounded by state parks and a canyon keeping the riff-raff at bay. Anyone's welcome to show up to the impromptu country club car meet.

[@kilovwdude6457]

Dude I went to cars and coffee at the post here in Houston at the beginning of the month and I've never seen so many burnouts! I was scared the venue was gonna kick everyone out

[@w.e.s.]

No ban of transams or g8s or gtos...

[@passacaglia28]

Nick, I never feel like my time is wasted on your content. Keep doing you!

[@Grogzu]

I wondered about having a separate burnout/rev area. However, the cost of liability insurance and security countermeasures would be exponentially higher.

[@HoneyBakedHam7]

Make the drivers pay for it

[@ROVA00]

@@HoneyBakedHam7 you mean the drivers that will probably take off after they hit something/someone? It’s not just the danger. It’s also annoying.

[@HoneyBakedHam7]

@@ROVA00 no, you charge them to be there. That way, whatever they do break, you got that coffer to give them for the damages.

[@ROVA00]

@@HoneyBakedHam7 it’s annoying and unwanted even if they don’t actually break anything. The only ones that enjoy muscle cars doing burnouts are the attention seeking drivers and those who can’t afford to be those same attention seeking drivers.

[@HoneyBakedHam7]

@@ROVA00 I agree, but if they don’t want to understand why muscle cars are being banned, then you price them out of wanting to show up. And those that will still pay will be on their best behavior because they literally paid to show off their cars. I’m thinking a starting point of $500 per muscle car entry.

[@This_man500]

This couldn't have happened soon enough. Not only do muscle car drivers endanger everyone at these meets, they're bad for variety. If there's 50 cars at an event, 37 of them are always pony cars. Ugh.

[@RhodokTribesman]

Seeing stock Mustangs with wraps and under glow gets tiring quickly

[@airjordankel]

Thanks Nick! Always enjoy your commentary. Please consider doing more videos on topics of your choosing

[@mrlt1]

Another great video, I like the idea of this one. if you can do more that would be cool. Thanks for the great content. It actually helps listening to or watching the videos at work. I work as a technician and a lot of the regular car reviews have got me through some really crappy days. Anyway, have a good one.

[@RavTokomi]

Been getting worse as the whole "takeover" trend makes its way to other gatherings and shows. The banned cars, especially the Dodges, are the cheapest and easiest to get.

[@chrisk.6531]

This was great, Roman. You valid, don't change the name (or intro istg)

[@mark63366]

This is how a risk adverse corporations shrink customers and profits. This is how competing events gain ground.

[@johncallahan118]

Hi ! I enjoyed this video. 😃 The title is fine for me. It’s simple, straight to the point. You’re doing great. Keep going like this. Take care. 😄

[@mry82]

Roman, always down to listen to your banter!

[@jmanke6057]

Yes these days some people don’t take responsibility most of us just want a show and coffee. But guess it is hard for some when egged on doing things their vehicle or skills can cause things go poorly. Come on it’s a meet (show and coffee) not a race or burnout box. Find a track or go to Mexico

[@WookieDrives]

The muscle car tomfoolery is why the Charlotte Cars & Coffee got moved locations before ultimately being cancelled for the near future.

[@jshumphress13]

6000 cars? Holy shit that’s a huge car show. On a regular basis? Holy sh*t.

[@thepsychobilly88]

I enjoyed this segment, would totally not mind hearing/seeing more segments like this :)

[@Anwar74]

This was really good, loved the conversational feel honestly.

[@WhiteMouse77]

...in EU...some mainstream TV cable providers started to ban and remove american channels where are frequented series about muscle and super cars... Also NASCAR and Monster Jam were removed from spor channels...

[@Nick-ue7iw]

The EU enjoys banning fun.

[@JonathanCabot]

thank you roman for talking about cars 👍

[@jorgejefferson8251]

I've read posts online asking why people bring modern cars to the typical car shows that give out trophies. I explained that the majority of car shows use the entry fees and food sales for donations to local charities and the generated revenue would suffer greatly if modern cars were excluded. Most modern car owners who attend don't expect to get a trophy because they know the local car clubs that normally run the events are biased more towards the classic cars that they own. Some of the car shows have instituted separate categories for more modern cars. I've only been to one cars and coffee event and it was a different animal all together.

[@totalmetaljacket789]

Well often there's no sense in giving them a trophy. Your 3 year old car is stock and pretty? Okay so?

[@jsimmonstx]

The show organizers support it by having classes for those cars. If not for modern muscle, car shows would be overrun by corvettes (which leads to the largest collection of New Balance sneakers you'd ever want to see) or JDM stuff, or not have many cars at all, because the classics are getting hella expensive.

[@stephen3164]

As a S197 owner, modern Stangs, Cameros, and Doges can stay home. Don’t need them at a car show. Let’s see more interesting cars instead.

[@Unholyhairhole]

I'm loving the idea of the Roman Report. I vote let's keep doing that!!

[@captainbigboy1063]

I was at that event in my Jurassic Jeep and with a friend in a Jurassic explorer. It was the day they actually permanently banned muscle cars. Unlike events before that it was complete disorganization and chaos, it was supposed to be 80s 90s retro day and we were supposed to have reserved spots for movie vehicles. nothing. they gave the spots to random vehicles (although the Delorean made it) complete opposite of last year's 80s 90s themed show. Hopefully it'll be better next year.

[@wrotenwasp]

Wow, how times have changed. I can recall going to car shows in the 80s-90, maybe to about the mid 2000s and I recall very few people driving like butt holes ,doing holeshots, leaving the parking lot like a maniac, showing off. It was 95% low keyed. My 86 Olds 442 isnt too bad running mid 12s but it never crossed my mind to drive like a jerk in a parking lot at a car show or leaving the show doing fish tails, running into the curb or slamming into a crowd of people. Shows were more about bench racing while drinking a beer with your hood popped, checking out the sound of that lumpy bump stick in your mill. However, as you talked about, these were classic muscle cars owned by people who weren't total ass wipes.

[@chrishuff1419]

Oh yeah. The Roman Report and Last Week Tonight are what keeps me informed about the important stuff happening in the world.

[@colincraigo5793]

Requiring owners of these specific muscle cars to register or get/request an invite to event is a smart alternative to just flat-out banning them. Like you said, it then allows the organizers to hold people accountable.

[@unclesamlore]

As someone who hates constantly getting tailgated, honked at, having brights flashed at them by the cars in question, this is something that feels a bit cathartic. I understand their importance to the scene as a relatively new car enthusiast, but still at the same time the culture of burnouts and everything else can cause just, weirdness to me. Maybe that is a bit old man yells at cloud, and I can admit it is, but its less about my dislike of the cars, and more the individuals I see driving them giving everyone else a bad name. Great video!

[@ynotw57]

I know nothing about these car shows, but I would assume each one is registered and has a ticket or a number associated. If the security or event runners witness that registered number acting out, they’re warned, then suspended, then banned. Or better yet, each one has a tether when they arrive to ensure the vehicle is stationary during the show, and if that tether is removed without approval or goes out of its assigned range…warn/suspension/ban. Weed out the offenders so it doesn’t punish the ones who follow the rules. I dunno. Looks difficult to enforce a whole group without becoming draconian. Great video, Roman. Oh, what about “The Roamin’ Roman”?

[@orest395]

By moddern, does that include early 00s?

[@abhishekrao1525]

Modern muscle cars are a dime a dozen. Burnouts, donuts, and engine revving takes no real skill and is not impressive. I support this ban. Leave the limited time and space of C & C for actually interesting cars.

[@Sunday_Woodward]

Good video. My only comment is that I’m confused by how you guys determine which video is for RCR and which is for R&R.

[@Dago2109]

As someone whos attended coffee and cars in Houston for the past 10 years, im fine with modern muscle being banned from these events. These cars are nothing special, you see them everyday in Houston. Like how unique can a dodge charger be? Definitely better than the occasional modified chevy cruze I see there tho...

[@GigaCivic]

Times new Roman would be an incredible name and yes please give us more of this!

[@seed_drill7135]

I used to have a Charger Daytona. It was fast-ish for 2008, but, by 2015, not so much. But, because of the way it looked, I constantly had people trying to goad me into engaging into street racing.

[@RandomActsOfBlindness]

I love when you do videos like this. Keep it up, and be well!

[@BassOutcast]

RCR, are you gonna do more bike content? Some fans aren't that into cars but really love your motorcycle videos!

[@abhishekrao2178]

Regular CAR Reviews.

[@evanulven8249]

Musclebros acting like musclebros, get slapped down for their conduct and go full surprised pikachu.

[@hendo337]

It's still stupid, it's the police's jobs to give bad actors tickets and not right to punish everyone for what a couple people do and it's extremely stupid from a business standpoint.

[@eliirvin5576]

@@hendo337Sounds like a great personal argument and opportunity for starting your own event in Houston!🎉

[@totalmetaljacket789]

​@@hendo337Which doesn't work if the event doesn't have police presence.

[@Undertaker93]

​@@hendo337Found the muclebro coping

[@raykay11xd82]

@@Undertaker93wow nice roast

[@lawrenceh.7011]

Was necessary. However, should have separate show (2nd Sat of every month) for just "muscle cars" with allotted "burnout area" for those that want to. Put up portable concrete barriers to protect onlookers. Then, see which car show brings in the most cash.

[@TheOystei]

just a comment on the windows not going all the way down, it''s usually less a case of passenger safety and more a case of rear doors often having a wheelwell making fully lowering the windows impossible. (can't say this is always the case, but it is often the reason)

[@SantiagoAntonutti]

Yooo this section is great, love you Roman. Invitationals also are just an inch from making you pay for entry, on a dodgy website.

[@nathanchildress5596]

The ban is justified, because frankly modern muscle cars are just regular traffic, I wouldn’t even look at them at a show. It’s like if I brought my G35 Coupe instead of my 84 Supra,

[@wotertool]

I think you missed an opportunity to upload a/the roman report on april 1st, in full roman senator clothes, talking about a meeting of horseless, self propelling carriages in old latin. ... with translated subtitles for me please.

[@Tizen]

I like the report format. I'd tell a friend, but I don't have any. I've got a wife, and two teenage kids that I have nothing in common with. I love them, and they love me, but we just have nothing in common other than having the same last name. I work at a call center where they stagger our breaks and lunches so that I hardly ever see the same person long enough to establish enough of working relationship that I would feel comfortable recommending them a youtube channel. I did give the video an earned like though, so there's that.

[@deioaros]

Good video, well thought out and presented.

[@hypocycloidiaspora]

What's this, bonus RCR videos? Nicely done, Roman, I won't turn down a monthly automotive story, though I do think the RCR stories are more important. For the Houston C&C, having invitation only is the best choice, if you make it invite only just for the Muscle, it's discriminatory, blah blah blah

[@totalmetaljacket789]

I mean, there's nothing saying you can't discriminate against car owners.

[@KennyCnotG]

Roman content is my favourite RCR content. Just soooo good

[@kingerikthegreatest.ofall.7860]

Are Mercury cougars available?

[@Rubedo222]

This was great, I'd like to see more of these. They can even be shorter if you don't have a lot of time to dedicate to them. The anything in the news format has a lot of possibilities. As to C&C Houston, hopefully they find a more just way to deal with troublemakers but I definitely understand why they did what they did. Even if money wasn't on the line, safety is and if people got hurt because of dudebros acting out in public then that would be the organizers' first concern. And beyond safety, there could also be police and legal trouble to come along with it. Individual invites or registrations to have a record of who is there and who can then be banned if need be sounds like the best solution.

[@11.9lsupercharged4]

So ctsv's aren't banned

[@maweitao]

Douchebag enthusiasts are a real issue and not just at car meets. The problem is that the authorities always come up with the worst kinds of passive aggressive solutions. I feel like there are plenty of things that could be done to discourage bad behavior without resorting to bans. If an asshole is acting up within the event, issue a warning, then a fine and ultimately a permaban. When leaving, create narrow exit lanes so that drivers don't have the room for antics. Have cops standing around with cameras so if someone acts up, they snap a pic of the license plate and the driver gets a hefty fine in the mail. There's also the insufferably aggressive, ego-fueled nature of American car culture but that's a whole separate discussion.

[@ROVA00]

A) I suspect this ban wasn’t the first move. I suspect this is a result of a series of repeated offenses by a bunch of different drivers and ultimately it was decided to ban them outright. This isn’t a surprise to anyone that watches car stuff on social media and knows it’s always the same people and cars blocking intersections to do burnouts, doing burnouts leaving the meets, and crashing into medians and other cars. B) the insufferable aggressive ego-fueled American car culture IS precisely the topic of this discussion.

[@totalmetaljacket789]

You seem to think cars and coffee events are more structured than they actually are.

[@peatyxxjxxx1494]

Makes sense. I go to car shows to see the unique and interesting cars you don’t see in everyday traffic.

[@jsimmonstx]

Car shows used to be this - Either classics, race cars, or customs - nothing civilian. One problem is that "custom" has been eased to include people that swapped out shift knobs and wheels.