MuseScore 4 | Working with VST

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@SpooksHD Жыл бұрын

Fantastic video! There's not a lot of coverage on non-included VSTs for MuseScore 4 and their compatibility when it comes to communicating all the proper markings. I haven't gotten to try out any of mine with MuseScore to see how they would work - I am a heavy Kontakt user though so I am very happy to see that you've covered it and that it works so well!

@valtteripennanen4043 Жыл бұрын

as musescore is an open-source project always ongoing some updates, like minor tweeks here and there, I'm sure that the "Working with VST and VSTi" forum in musescore's forum page will be updated in some time in the foreseeable future.

@sympho-cs6pt Жыл бұрын

Very usefull video, thank you ! I wondered if other sounds worked wtih musescore 4, this is the answer.

@franciscoaragao5398 3 ай бұрын

Sua reação em (6:07) foi muito expontânea. Muito bem.

@adriendecroy7254 Жыл бұрын

I wouldn't expect velocity to work for dynamic for anything except percussion, or pizz / col legno. It's normal to use CC11.

@bobogus7559 Жыл бұрын

Or CC1, or occasionally CC2, or CC7.

@RobKennedyEditor Ай бұрын

How did you get Kontakt to work? Did you need to change anything in MS or in Kontakt? I have tried to get Kontakt to work in Windows 11 and on my Mac Mini M1, and I can not get a sound to play in MS on either if I use Kontakt. It loads and opens in MS but will not play a sound.

@bobogus7559 Жыл бұрын

In Muse Sounds, solo violin 2 seems to sound much better than solo violin 1 and is also a bit better balanced.

@stevendunn7928 13 күн бұрын

I came to this video looking for help. I added a VST drumkit (Monster Drums by Agus Hardiman) with brush sounds. The sounds that don't map to the standard "large drum kit" in MuseScore are simply silent; they don't play. I found the corresponding note (D#1) and gave it a name in the "edit drumkit" dialog. It shows up on the list of available drum sounds when I go into entry mode, but both the sample at the bottom and the note in the staff are silent.

@RubenFromTheNetherlands 3 ай бұрын

Thank you so much. You've just helped me a bunch!

@marcmagras Жыл бұрын

Good to know the Kontakt libraries work. Ofc I only have the Spitfire Audio ones. Ugh!

@Joe-blogcomposer Жыл бұрын

You could always try the free version of Dorico, you'll get more out of your sample libriaries in that notation software (I know your limited to 8 instruments) but at least you can do expression mapping!

@maxtofone Жыл бұрын

Thanks for this video... I would like to ask how to handle patches with multiple articulations like for example Spitfire Solo Strings multi patch with several articulations. Do you use MIDI CC to switch from one articulation to another? Many thanks and best regards, MaxT

@Mark_Nowa_Taylor_Composer Жыл бұрын

Have you tried right clicking on the knobs that alter the volume and dynamics and clicking "Learn CC Automation"? I believe MuseScore uses CC2 and LABS and other Spitfire Audio products like BBCSO uses CC1. Maybe try that and see if that works?

@Joe-blogcomposer Жыл бұрын

I tried using my faders that were mapped to those CCs but they didn’t seem to do anything, and I’m wondering how to program that into MuseScore 4 as well, if there any markings I could use or change CC values. of certain markings… this is why I use Logic Pro X for these sorts of things 😂

@Mark_Nowa_Taylor_Composer Жыл бұрын

@@Joe-blogcomposer Yeah, I guess DAW is probably a good idea for things like that. I don't have a MIDI Keyboard, so whenever I tried crescendos etc in Reaper (my DAW) and I would use BBCSO Discover andI right clicked on the faders they have on there andjust clicked "Learn CC Automation". So I just presumed that could maybe be the case (this was before switching to Muse Sounds btw.) I'm sure there will be a way around doing it in MuseScore 4, considering there is a way around keyswitches.

@soundtreks Жыл бұрын

Dorico 5 is as close to a DAW as any notation program can get.

@trevorholt3658 6 ай бұрын

Hey there, so, I am experimenting with this plug-in called Musio, and I can't figure out how to get the legato sounds to work. Is there a way to get them to work?

@pogikoshet9351 Жыл бұрын

do you know how to fix corrupted file on musescore 4? I always encounter this problem even if I always press "save as" whenever I do minor changes in my score

@Joe-blogcomposer Жыл бұрын

Sadly I don’t, but it might be worth periodically exporting it as MusicXML which you can then reopen in muscore, and a less likely file type to corrupt

@Pax30001 Жыл бұрын

I think try to check for backup files. I think maybe you could see an autosaved one before it crashed.

@Totoleguitariste 11 сағат бұрын

articulation dosn't work on bbcso ?

@johnpcomposer Жыл бұрын

This is very useful as I'm considering Musescore4 and wondering if any VST worked well. Can you do a video about or comment on how well Musescore reads xml files if I want to import my scores from my current software. I am considering a move to either this or Dorico which has EastWest templates built in (I got for 60% off last year but haven't been able to use in Notion 6.

@Joe-blogcomposer Жыл бұрын

I actually do a short on this - kzbin.infobv38N48oV14?feature=share - In short Yes MuseScore reads XML files very well, if your transferring to Dorico from MuseScore or the other way around. Hope this helps!

@netherbliss 5 ай бұрын

im confused.... how do i open sineplayer within musescore?

@HenryHanson921 Жыл бұрын

try clicking the crescendo and then choose a dynamics so the crescendo is locked to to the dynamic

@Joe-blogcomposer Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for this! I’ll give it a try and report back

@kierenmoore3236 Жыл бұрын

@@Joe-blogcomposer. how did it go?! 🙂

@lllewelll 11 ай бұрын

@@Joe-blogcomposerAny luck?

@GeorgesGondard Жыл бұрын

Hello, Is Muse articulations affects spitfire audio libraries ? For exemple if I want to write a line with legato then trills then pizz it can works together ?

@Joe-blogcomposer Жыл бұрын

As far as I’m aware no, without a key switch or the correct CC MIDI data, the articulation won’t change.

@GeorgesGondard Жыл бұрын

@@Joe-blogcomposer so only with the muse instruments it works correctly, ok 👍

@TWClark3 Жыл бұрын

Many thanks for this. I've got Kontakt Komplete Kontrol showing up in the MuseScore mixer (VST/Native Instruments/Komplete Kontrol) but when selecting it the Kontakt window with instruments is very small and I can't make it bigger, so very difficult to work with. And although I can hear the instrument when I click on it, there's no sound when playing Musescore itself. Other software needed perhaps? Any suggestions most welcome!

@Joe-blogcomposer Жыл бұрын

I have so much trouble working with VSTs in MuseScore, I end up moving over to the free version of Dorico, you can have up to 8 instruments, or exporting Music XML into a DAW :/

@TWClark3 Жыл бұрын

Thanks, but if I want to keep using MuseScore, are there any fixes for the two problems I've mentioned? You were able to get Kontakt working in this video so there must be something I'm missing in terms of the window size and the sound not playing (I'm using Windows 11). @@Joe-blogcomposer

@Joe-blogcomposer Жыл бұрын

@TWClark3 hmmm I’ve personal not experienced those issues, as I use Mac OS, I don’t know if it could be an issue with MuseScore and Windows 11 with regards to window size. When you switch the instrument back to Musesounds does it work fine? This could be something to do with range, or certain midi not triggering it. I’ll look into it.

@Joe-blogcomposer Жыл бұрын

@TWClark3 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your thoughts. When I switch the instrument back to Musesounds it works fine. Perhaps I need to install something like Midi Looper, not sure if you've done that. I've got a query in the MuseScore forum, and I'll try Kontakt support too. @@Joe-blogcomposer

@barakarbel6424 Жыл бұрын

thank you for your video. I didn't understand how to make the key switch without writing this notes in the score? how did you handle it?

@Joe-blogcomposer Жыл бұрын

Sadly you do have to write a note in the score to actually do the key switch, I’ll do some more investigation to see if theirs a way around it

@barakarbel6424 Жыл бұрын

@@Joe-blogcomposer great thank you, I know there was something that could sound set editor for Sibelius but it did not work well for me =(

@bobogus7559 Жыл бұрын

I think the biggest problem with fully implementing VSTs in notation software is the complexity of mapping out MIDI CCs and envelopes in a way that works well in MuseScore. To begin with, some VSTs control dynamics using expression or mod wheel (or even both, in some instances), or velocity in the case of non-sustaining instruments, while cheaper ones might instead just use volume. These inconsistencies are probably the reason why Kontakt worked so well but not BBC Orchestra or Labs - it happened to use exactly the option MuseScore likes. So there needs to be some way for you to customize the choice of MIDI CC that is used to control dynamics (perhaps in staff/part preferences or as a menu on the actual Mixer entry). This also applies to other CCs that are used to control other elements of performance. On top of that, some CCs do different things at different ranges, meaning the exact value it takes on also needs to be defined with each marking. This, of course, only applies to performance parameters that are part of the visible score. What about more nuanced expression such as control of vibrato, which might not be written in the score? Perhaps timeline view might come in handy here, with the ability to add DAW-like CC envelopes. Then there's the whole mess of keyswitches, which are completely different from VST to VST, so you have to be able to assign a given keyswitch to expressive text markings (including custom text). Also, some VSTs have velocity-sensitive keyswitches, in which the velocity a keyswitch is pressed at causes it to do different things. So that must be defined as well with the expressive text. Also, keyswitches need to be pressed slightly before the note they apply to, or else the current note will play using the previous keyswitch setting. So how is this offset interpreted? The thing is, many of these abilities are already present in a DAW. So if this is implemented into MuseScore, it would become a hybrid of traditional notation software and a DAW. This is quite complicated and likely out of the scope of the MuseScore development team, but I think it could eventually be possible. If nothing else, perhaps that coule be possible as a plugin.

@lucastornado9496 Жыл бұрын

how do i even get spitfire into kontakt in the first place

@Joe-blogcomposer Жыл бұрын

The older spitfire products like spitfire solo strings were made in kontakt and are used in kontakt player, the newer once’s with the dedicated plugins are not

@lucastornado9496 Жыл бұрын

@@Joe-blogcomposer ah I see, thanks for the clarification